You enunciate so well that I can listen to you at 2x. Thanks!

Love your channel(s) Ben! As a mid aged man, just back on the skateboard after 15 years, and just moved to an old house that needs makeover, I learn so much from you. This week alone, I nailed slappy crooked grinds and a California patch because of you. Where else can you learn that from the same guy?? You have the perfect combo for me! Keep up the good work, don't feel any pressure on Saturday videos, love from Sweden!

As a professional painter we do filler first. If your putty knife hits semi-dry caulking you're waiting a long while to fix it. We do the elmers, slightly more than flush, then caulk everything. Next day we sand, clean and spray. 1 day is tough, you always sacrifice quality for speed when it comes to quick dry materials.

@Jimbo_Conn

4 жыл бұрын

What's Elmer's, wood putty? You prefer to fill nail holes with this?

@Jimbo_Conn

4 жыл бұрын

What's Elmer's, wood putty? You prefer to fill nail holes with this?

@NickRgibbs

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jimbo_Conn yes it's wood filler. I use the same filler he uses in his videos. I mix mine with another filler so it's a bit easier to sand and it shrinks less but elmers wood filler is one of the best

It depends on your system and materials. I use a quick drying Spackle and a quick drying caulk. I prefer to caulk first as I use a damp sponge when I'm caulking to get clean lines, if I fill first, the fill comes of the woodwork. As a painter I have certain steps I follow on every job. First I cover and protect the flooring, next I caulk all that needs it, then I remove the electrical plates and cover with tape. Then I fill all holes in walls and trim-work with quick drying spackle. If the job has a closet that need painting, I apply my first coat of white or trim color to the closet while I wait for my fill to dry. I do not touch up closets, you never see them plus white hides a lot of sin. I apply my second coat to my patches on the walls and trim if necessary. I re-coat the closet. By the time I'm done that my patches and fill are dry. I sand and prime with quick drying primer (Usually a universal sealer that dries very fast). Then I cut and roll my ceilings. Then cut and roll my woodwork. Then my ceilings again. Usually by this time its lunch. The heat and a dehumidifier has been on the whole time (Trust me it really helps with the drying). After lunch I cut and roll my walls for the first coat of color. While I'm waiting for the first coat to dry I'm applying the last coat on the woodwork. Last coat of color gets applied, by now its usually late in the afternoon. I go around looking over my work, touch up with a foam brush is necessary. I remove my drop sheets or paper. I begin to clean up, sweep and mop the floors (I use a pretty neutral floor cleaner that smells nice). I clean up my tools, rinsing the brush and sleeves out on site if possible. (This whole process can take up to an hour, but your customer will love you for it) After I have everything clean up and all my gear is returned to my car, I do one last check making sure everything is right. I re-attach all plate covers, check any area I was in, check the flooring for paint. At this point I bring in the customer, have a chat about the process, give them instructions not to hang anything on the wall for at least a week if possible (Covers my butt) and get paid. I charge about $500 cash per room for a complete re-paint plus materials.

Thank you so much for all these great tips. I just got my first home, and you have no idea how helpful your videos are!! :) There are so many things I want to fix at the new place, but I was too scared to do it myself as a female in their 20s (there are not many people to ask around.) But after learning from your videos, I am starting to get confident and actually be able to slowly pull it up! I wish I can show before and after once it's done haha. Please keep sharing your good works. Thanks again!

I fill then prime then caulk then finish. I like to spray paint my trim with a 211 tip. Caulk likes primed surfaces better. Especially exterior.

Damn: exactly where I am now! What a timing . Thank you !

Depends, Renovation/existing work - caulk then fill then paint. Something like bare baseboards or complicated window trim(bare) will get filled, then painted, then caulked. All of this on bright white base and trim, paint is always last if the color is changing to anything but white. Ideal world I paint baseboards before installing, then fill nail holes and touchup.

Prime, putty (elmers wood filler,) sand, vacumn then caulk. Sometimes carpenters leave holes all over the place and leave them next to caulking seems. Sanding after caulking can also mess the caulking up.

man you totally helped me in my fork in the road moment of which thing to do first since my trim will need to be painted black(some of it already is, some which i had to get more of, is not. Thanks for the help.

I fill then caulk for the same reason you said, in addition to if I need to countersink an exposed nail head or add more nails to make a gap smaller that's done as I go. Moving like that could easily make still wet caulk split. BTW I always use the fast dry stuff that's ready to paint in 30 minutes.

I use the “big gap” caulks for large gaps before painting and I always fill first then caulk. The Big Stretch latex caulk available at Lowe’s tends to be very wet for some reason. But it claims it will stretch with the seasons and not crack But I always leave it to dry overnight before painting. Dap has a new caulk for large gaps too and it claims to stretch 600% 😳. It’s called Extreme Stretch and available at most big box home improvement stores, Lowe’s, Home Depot etc. It’s an urethane acrylic caulk that only stretches. Will not crack.

Ben, in my painting business, I like to get all of the prep work done first and then paint as the last step.

I work in restoration. And what our branch wants us doing is paint the doors and trim before install. Then after install fill nail holes with what ever the installer prefers paint up the trim then use the exact color caulking. The stuff where you add trim paint to it and once you're caulked it's done. It does have its issues like it is a little runny, so on larger gaps the quick dry caulk needs to be used first.

In ideal circumstances I like a quick setting caulk between cocktails and buying dinner. In mature circles, filling is a fallacy where disappointment and loosely filled aching joints are the norm.

@cencoast_7.340

4 жыл бұрын

What?

Caulking is just filling part 2. By doing it 2nd it gives you the opportunity to get any pieces that the filling shrunk on or didn't quite match up perfect on. Fill first with putty for the big gaps fill second with caulk for the medium gaps and for the tiny gaps fill third with paint

I started Useing window glaze for trim nail holes... works great

Fill first. If I'm filling and discover a nail not set all the way, I definitely want to fix it before caulking in case the trim pulls in to the wall some more. Drydex for nail holes. Dries fast in small holes and sands easy. Powerhouse by SW for most caulking, Big Stretch by Sashco for big fills.

keep this up - you've got a way of explaining without appearing smug - not as easy as some might think

That's pretty much my process, except I'll do any major sanding (stippled factory primer, rough paint job, etc) and spot priming before filling if needed. I use SW 1050 for smaller jobs and do something else for 30 minutes or have lunch while the caulk sets up.

Question : which caulking would you choose IF you do NOT want the shrinkage , I I want to make sure it will be a tight nice job after painting ? THANK YOU . I have learned tremendously because of you .

I double checked with my wife, she prefers caulk first then fill

@lazerusmfh

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Morris heheh

@travisk5589

4 жыл бұрын

@@lazerusmfh That's classic Paul for you

@drew5334

3 жыл бұрын

You win the comments section.

Good video. I usually fill first.

I prefer to do the first fill and wipe off with a damp rag. Then I caulk and do a second fill. I let dry overnight before painting. That's in regards to trim work. I will often give the walls the first patch at the same time. The next day I will repatch walls and paint the trim. I prefer to tape on fresh 'dried' paint before sanding, priming and painting the walls. It all is kind of dependent upon the size of house/job and what is ready or what will be ready.

I start from the top of the room and work my way down so fill first and then sand. I've just clued in that caulking is better to do before paint for a myriad of reasons. One; some caulk yellows, sometimes it's not the cleanest removal of excess and it shows a year later, (different finish), and unpainted caulk, despite saying mould resistant has actually gone mouldy around the trim of a window. Paint stops that from happening. So, caulk next and paint last. And no, I don't use the cheapest caulk. Just crappy old aluminium slider windows.

Painters putty, using your finger, wiping it off with wet or damp rag/sponge are all no good. If you can still see the nail hole after you paint, then you could save a lot of time and not fill at all. The whole purpose of filling a nail hole is so it looks like there was never a nail. Use a good wood filler/putty with a knife, 2 coats if necessary, sand with sand paper. I like/prefer your method. I don't it everyday, but I do it a lot. I'm probably the guy who caulks first, I sometimes hit the nail holes twice

@levelseven9841

4 жыл бұрын

If I only had 1 day, I would fill the holes, then caulk, then sand and fill any holes that need more filler, then sand again

I use bondo to fill. Dries really fast and hard as a rock now. You do have to work fast with small batches. If you do it neatly, hardly any sanding at all.

I use light weight shrink free spackle for nail holes. Never sand them.

Spackle/fill all, paying attention to joints and miters that may need 2 passes (moreso with contemporary trim), light sand than caulk all and usually vac than caulk room at a time immediately so we can paint trim later in the day if brushing. Once caulked anyone I work with knows it's ready for paint and all they have to ask if the caulking is dry yet. Nothing worse than sanding into some soft caulk. Any other way doesn't really make any sense to me. Mabey precaulk some large gaps if needed though but don't anticipate painting over them caulked twice in a day

I tend to caulk first (because like you said I need it to start curing ASAP especially if there's sanding to do on the walls) and fill with crackshot or (I know it shrinks but I use the pink spackle or glazing) and then I know this is cheating but sometimes I don't sand, I just wipe the areas that got filled with a damp rag then paint. On smaller jobs don't have a day to wait and come back to paint. In a perfect world (and if they were my jobs) and depending on job size, I would be doing things a bit differently

@Van_bya_river

4 жыл бұрын

If you caulk first the dust lands on the caulk and will leave a grainy look

@Jimbo_Conn

4 жыл бұрын

@@Van_bya_river yes right. Depending is walls are ready to sand or need to be done later that day. I will caulk accordingly. Sometimes though o get thrown into shit jobs where I have no choice and can't do it properly.

@Jimbo_Conn

4 жыл бұрын

And o always run into the problem of painting to early without having enough time for everything to set, like caulking on Windows, then you go paint the trim and the caulking in corners get ruined and get brushes out. No good.

@Van_bya_river

4 жыл бұрын

Amen brother. All the time.

Sherwin Williams 1050 caulk. Small bead is paintable in 20 minutes. Most of my jobs are fast paced. Oh and I usually patch first.

Can you do a video on how to fill and caulk around newly installed.ceiling registers?

I always do filling first,as when you sandind off the small patches,caulking will catch a lot of dust.

Thanks

With respect to new construction, I like to caulk first than go back and putty and always prime afterwards. I’ve always had less caulk failure, and the caulk and putty have a primer coat as well, as the two finishes coats.

Thanks bro

Man this saved me lol 😂

DAP 230 - the best caulking!

For enameled trim, i fill once and sand before primer, prime, fill 2nd time, sand 2nd fill and primer as one motion, vaccum, caulk easy and large gap areas, paint 1st coat enamel, sand, vaccum, and final/touch up caulking (finger glides easy on enamel) and 2nd coat enamel, done.

@Citizenspress

4 жыл бұрын

And no matter the order, I wouldn’t caulk to bare wood, I don’t know why

usually fill and sand then caulk like you do. question on caulking- was told I should use a solvent based rather than standard water based? any thoughts on that?? Thanks much, love vids.

I like the saying goes putty and paint makes a carpenter what he ain't

@fzz188

4 жыл бұрын

"Do you best and caulk the rest"

@BlueSkiesTruthRadio

4 жыл бұрын

Do it right and keep it should be a saying

I agree... Fill then Caulk.

Definitely the filling first. If you get sanding dust on your fresh caulk, it's a pain to fix

I usually fill first then caulk. But, here's a question I'd like some feedback on. Does anyone use caulk instead of wood filler to fill finishing nail holes on trim and baseboards? Does it work out ok? BB

How about a video on the proper way to drywall around a fiberglass tub or shower. If I leave a gap and fill with mud I get a crack. Calking is a mess. Got to be a way to get good seal and good corners.

I use plastic wood, so no sanding if you do it right. Wipe down with a damp rag. Then go back and caulk everything.

After new drywall install: do I caulk before I prime and seal, or right before the paint coat? @vancouvercarpenter

The first five comments All use different types of nailed filler. So what's your favorite nail filler? I've been a big fan of Hamilton's vinyl nail filler that's recent. Do you guys like vinyl or clay or putty drywall spackle?

I like to pre prime paint the trim. Fill clean than caulk.

I've had good luck with Big Stretch caulking.

fill, caulk, done.

Nice to see a chippy fill and caulk his own work, it’s a decorators job here in the uk. But with that said I’d always prefer to do my own filling and caulking as some times the chippys like to caulk a 10mm gap 🤦🏻‍♂️

Are thier any more cracks that need caulked or holes that need filled? Mud and fill first... then caulk

With underbody can’t you caulk after your second coat because you have to sand after third coat and before enamel?

Caulk takes longer to dry, caulk first. Use painters putty(non sandable) by the time you're done with the putty the caulking is dry and you can start painting

It’s the painters job to caulk and fill 😎

Thanks Ben...Would you give us suggestions and tips on the best way to re-seal the caulk tube so the caulk would not dry out?

@edover50

4 жыл бұрын

John M. I cut off one of the fingers from a used latex glove and use it like a condom on the end, painters tape to hold it in place ( half on latex and half on tube) and it can be reused for the life of that tube.Even after multiple uses I don’t need to replace the tape.

We putty first then caulk...then actually sand after caulking, helps knock down some burs from when you caulk...just dont get caulking on your putty simple enough

I stumble my way thru it swearing and wishing I’d organised a painter in time to get the job done

I would fill first and caulk last just because the caulking goes so much faster and the filling requires more crawling around, and I just want to get it out of the way first. That said, I find it oddly relaxing to fill and caulk either way.

Do a halfcab heelflip.

A little bit of caulk and a little bit of paint makes a carpenter what he ain’t.

Fill first

I’ve been a decorator for 45 years. You fill and prep first. Then caulk. As you described.

Always over fill nail holes!

I like to prime first. It makes the cracks and nail holes stand out more. Also if there are any big cracks, I fill them first, and after that stuff shrinks, I fill them again as needed. I mean, I have no idea! I never have any big cracks...

Caulking on the fresh ciment joint is not very good thé best is after spray primer or primer roll and the best caulking gun it stop than shell 😉😉 mastic i too after primer

My joints are tight brah, just a little fill on some pin holes.

@adampottmeyer452

4 жыл бұрын

And if you believe that, I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona for ya

Fill first.......

Hi Ben I wanna text you in private and ask a question about drywall tapping issues. Can I get

Wood filler is absolutely the better way to go

I hate it when my caulk shrinks up in the crack

I caulk after painting.

@jesseperry9106

4 жыл бұрын

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@toobin4life

4 жыл бұрын

I'm usually working colored walls to white trim so caulking afterwards seems to make the most sense. I'm not a fan of painting over caulking unless everything is the same color.

@jesseperry9106

4 жыл бұрын

Caulking discolors within a couple months if you dont paint it...turns dingy yellowish

I fill first because you can't sand caulk and if you do accidentally hit it with sand paper, you're probably going to have to clean it off and caulk again

I fill then I caulk then I sand. Is that cheating?

Caulk first then use whatever excess from wiping to fill nail holes

Neither....let the painter fix it

Isn't caulk pronounced with an A and L, rymes with Hulk? Not O and C

Because no one wants to sand into their caulking....

I pull the caulk out of bens mouth when he says words like PROcess like a pHaGeT