Not convincing enough. Still buying my first Datejust this year.

@ThiHaGadgets

3 жыл бұрын

Did you buy it?

@kelvinhau7320

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThiHaGadgets I bought one it is kindof dissapointing I got to admit. Got a 1966 1601 with no bracelet or box and papers for 3500

@ThiHaGadgets

3 жыл бұрын

@@kelvinhau7320 oh man. Those are not cheap. May I know why it was disappointing?

@kelvinhau7320

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThiHaGadgets take a look at my Instagram- @watchclubmember

@Rafa-yw8nu

2 жыл бұрын

@@kelvinhau7320 it doesn’t look like it disappoints you from your Instagram. Maybe it’s the brown leather band? It’s a great watch overall.

This has made me want to buy a vintage datejust even more

@RJ-qo9ic

3 жыл бұрын

I agree !!!

@BeautyByChristina

2 жыл бұрын

If you did buy you’ll now know it was an investment 😂💯

@alexclemente9233

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@keithkahn6838

Жыл бұрын

I bought a 1991 Datejust and I have no remorse. I have not regretted the purchase at all.

@wordtruth6116

Жыл бұрын

1991 Datejust is a classic. I like it better than the new one. Less bling more class.

Everything you said is applicable to all vintage pieces, not only to datejusts.

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

Yes sir! I had to make it on the Datejust because believe it or not, this scenario about first time Rolex buyer is very common. I see it once every few weeks.

@noerodriguez4380

3 жыл бұрын

He addressed it because he’d explained how he gets a lot questions on the watch especially by those new to vintage watches

@mauriciomucino1015

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnPWatches Wonder if this happens with the Speedy Pro

@neil4701

Жыл бұрын

Except that non-Rolex vintage watches of comparable quality often cost a fraction of the price...

Reasons not to buy starts at 3:38 . You're welcome

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Donny

@AlmostGod007

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much .... I love such useful comments

@donaldtrump1464

5 жыл бұрын

right? imagine wasting 3min 38 seconds of your life just waiting for the thing you clicked the video for,

@mar1b0ro

5 жыл бұрын

Waffle bollox

@ryanchen307

5 жыл бұрын

The worst thing is that I didn't make it to 3:38, I just went as far as 3:00, and I am here . And I don't wanna watch it . I just wanna leave a comment and ditch the video

The main problem is that you think men want a modern looking Rolex...sometimes that is not the case. Vintage is in lil homie.

1965 mustang-2016 mustang .. there’s a difference what’s your point buddy

Man Christian from Theo & Harris will not take this video kindly 😂

@22Phanatic

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@Youcantleavethisempty01

5 жыл бұрын

Who cares what he thinks. So glad I unsubbed from T&H. Never seen a more pretentious dude in my life.

@EverDayBest

5 жыл бұрын

He has no taste.

@colmfarrel4742

5 жыл бұрын

@@EverDayBest He has no taste? How can someone who's into Cartier and vintage datejust's have no taste?

@EverDayBest

5 жыл бұрын

I approve of the Cartiers, not the vintage DJs

Drinking Game: Take a shot every time he says "Vintage DateJust"

@diegoog3654

5 жыл бұрын

@@bobbykotick1163 -doesn't get jokes/Vintage Datejust owner

@bobbykotick1163

5 жыл бұрын

@@diegoog3654 doesnt get that 'take a shot' jokes' arent funny when they are about the main topic.

@diegoog3654

5 жыл бұрын

@@bobbykotick1163 -thinks we live in North Korea, and "unauthorized laughter" is banned LMAO

I really don't like how shiny and jewelry like new Rolexes are. Vintage datejust look so much nicer for me

@TehRealRsNerd

3 жыл бұрын

Why wouldn’t you want a brand new luxury watch to resemble jewelry? Fascinating

@Redonepunch

3 жыл бұрын

@@TehRealRsNerd It's just preference. I find something like the Tudor Pelagos a lot more attractive than a new Submariner. It's a tool watch that feels high quality and luxurious without feeling like jewelry.

@blakelisser1936

3 жыл бұрын

Well my guy, I’m the opposite! I prefer shiny

Top Tip. Don't buy a vintage Datejust with all the faults mentioned, wait for a nice one to come along, there are thousands of them out there.

the old watches have and had charisma, the new ones are round like an apple watch.

If you are going to use your datejust for alot of physical activity DONT!!! get one with a saphire crystal. The crystal sits higher than the bezel and break easily, I am a watchmaker and fix many with this problem. We have to service the whole watch because many times pieces of the crystal go to the movement through the date window, and many times scratch the dial. Also...their is no comparing a vintage pie pan dial to a flat one. If the bracelet is an issue, buy a stainless steel jubilee on ebay for 20dlls. And put the authentic one away in case you ever sell your watch. This seamed like a good video but lacks important information

I think nothing wrong with vintage datejust, but the problem for me is the sellers who charge 3-4 grand for bit-up garbage examples like T&H.

@noerodriguez4380

3 жыл бұрын

You’re buying the Rolex name which is never cheap along with the wide variations of dials and configurations, besides you’ll never find a vintage Datejust that’s much less then 3 grand and I’m sure he’s still gotta make a profit of the watch someway

Ok, so I’m going to get my first Rolex this year, and I want a 1601. Your points are valid. I’m not arguing that, but this video is definitely for someone who is new to watches. Anyone who’s been around for more that 5 years and has gone down the rabbit hole of this hobby, would know all this. I like the charm of an older watch, and I find that buying used or vintage has more appeal. The new Rolex are nice, but they lack the charm of a vintage. Also, you can get a vintage DJ with sapphire, you just need to get one that’s not as old. I think the 1603’s have sapphire. On the point of getting a new 36, that’s good if you can even get one. The only way you’re getting one now is if you have a long buying history with an AD, and even then you’re going to be on a waitlist. After that, you need to go to the grey market where you’re going to end up spending over retail. That’s just not a smart option. I’ll go with the vintage where I have more options and can shop around for the best deal.

You make some good points. Your content is balanced and rant free. Perspective is the key. As is the case with vintage cars, modern tends to outperform vintage. But sometimes vintage just looks so cool. I have a vintage 1973 .750 gold Oyster Perpetual. The case is 34 mm. It has the original Rolex lizard strap with the Rolex buckle. It is a classic dress watch. Now days watches are larger and less understated. But the times, they are a changin'. This watch touches all the bases for me. And it cost significantly less than a brand new Rolex with same setup. I prefer the vintage look most of the time.

Good thoughts on what to expect going vintage vs modern. One point that was overlooked is Rolex’s tendency (and sometimes requirement) to replace big components during a factory service. It’s possible to go vintage but get a watch with a recent service that looks close to new but which still shows some charm from the years/miles on it still. I recently picked up a birth year (1983) datejust with a gorgeous silver service dial and a clean date disk that combines (for me) both aspects of what I would want in my “perfect” datejust (vintage looks and heritage, without unpleasant damage and with the assurances that come with a recent Rolex service). It’s an interesting sector of Rolex collecting since true vintage hounds tend to turn up their nose at service replacement parts in a vintage watch. But for a customer wanting heritage, reliability, and beauty, you can find interesting options if you look around.

Thanks for the advice. What about vintage Speedmaster vs modern Speedmaster. Is there any noticeable difference in quality (other than the bracelet)?

A very informative video for a new watch collector like me. Good job!

Click bait title!! I came here ready to give you a thumbs down but your content was actually reasonable. I agree that people need to know what they're getting into before buying a vintage Datejust and you explained the potential downsides. Personally, I think buying the 162XX version of the Datejust is ideal. It has a sapphire crystal, oyster case, and 3135 movement. And the price is still really good. I have a 16234 and I love it.

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

Excellent point.

@lecorsaire2283

5 жыл бұрын

William Coolidge There is another major difference you’re missing. This applies to the Day-Date as well and is what makes the post 2000 ones look modern. The fully polished case and lugs.

This is a great topic! I am into air-cooled Porsche and have been lucky enough to have been in the game since my late twenties. The older cars can't touch the new cars with regard to Performance or fit and finish... not even close...but they have some exceptional charm! I had the ability to buy a newer model when I first started doing the car thing and I almost did but I just fell in love with all of the imperfections of the Vintage model which I found quite interesting and now I could never go back. If I were to buy a new car it would probably be something like a performance Audi sedan and I was stick with the air-cooled Porsche as the toy. I think the combination of a vintage datejust with a modern diver or something like that could really fit the ticket for me! Great content and a unique video!

@vanfja

6 ай бұрын

Maybe the old cars don’t have all the fancy computer aided driving and modern plush luxuries made by robots, but they have real style and original design. And you are driving them, without computer nonsense.

Thanks JP great info!!

John can you elaborate on the technicals workings of a vintage datejust. I mean, will it run for another ten years or is it just as risky as buying an 30 year old car? And how accurate will it be ticking? I mean will it still give me the accurate time after 6 months or will I have to adjust the time every other week?

I do love the saggy loose feel on my vintage rolexes my absolute favorite is the two tone turn o graph from 60-70s with a president brace

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

It's charming right?

Pretty much all you said applies to my datejust however, it has been worn by two generations before me so it’s part of the charm

One more thing guys.... The thing about vintage watches is that you cant help but feel their fragility. I received my 1986 DJ today. I am in love with it but oh boy oh boy if anything were to happen to it it would cost a fortune to repair. The bracelet is like a wizard's sleeve, the screw down crown needs to be tightened strongly or it just springs out (Dunno if thats normal) and when i adjusted the date it felt slippery, like i had to rotate more than normal to move onto the next number some times. Are all these problems normal? Is it possible that the bracelet breaks? Please help

I have a 1979 datejust. Is it waterproof?

Great video and brought up a lot of things as a newer watch enthusiast I would have never known.

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks !!!

What about a 26mm ? Im thinking about buying one. Its a 1984. Ty

I brought 2 vintage datejusts when younger returned both when as you stayed realised I wanted the only Rolex I could afford never truly trusted them 100 % for completely genuine fast forward years and brought brand new 114060 no date steel sub , the only watch I’ll ever need , love it ! Morale of the story your time will come don’t settle for second best

John - You make some very valid points not just about a vintage Datejust but about vintage watches in general. They have their charm - and often can be found at reasonable prices - but they come with their challenges, quirks, and disadvantages, which, I think you explain objectively and fairly. Another honest video. 👍🏻

Valid points, it really got me thinking. Thank you.

I love my 1603. - Engine turned bezel isn't made anymore. - Plexi is sexy - Jubilee is light and comfortable - It's cheaper

@MrBloopt

5 жыл бұрын

I love my 1500!

@canerbatman2303

5 жыл бұрын

It’s not “cheap”.. It’s still a lot money.

Hi I am in the process of buying my first Rolex. I am thinking of buying a new date just the Wimbledon is it a good buy

@AutopilotAndChill

4 жыл бұрын

Wayne Hargreaves Yes, it’s a great watch. The only part of Rolex that is garbage is the Chellini collection.

I want to clarify some points that you mentioned. Firstly what we call vintage rolex are made by only hand not any robotic machine as today so it gives much more precise and uniqeness. Secondly imagine the old cars or old cottons in fashion industry made years ago, they are so good because they hadn’t implemented any cheap materials that makes production cost much less today. Actually I want to explain much more but unfotunately language barrier makes me use simple words :) sorry. Last but most important thing is the marketplace keepers especially brands force us to buy new things. We need to think that are those new watches will last 30 years and keep their durability. Vintages proved that and they still precise. A mechanic never brokes if it is well lubricated and used carefully. Thank you.

@nowhere618

2 жыл бұрын

Perfectly explained. Can young people even understand that?

i would like to ask you a question because i think youll know the answer after watching your videos you cover quite a few different watch brands and have a lot of knowledge . my question is do you know what the weight should be for a 1986 rolex sub 68000 without the bracelet,every vid i see is with the bracelet but the problem is they are sized different and the bands are different. thanks john p,james

Just bought mine for a song and am laughing at this fucking video now.

What watch would you recommend in this price point?

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

Depends on wrist size and if you want vintage or modern

Hi, what do u think about vintage DJ 26mm - S series (1990s) -> is it worth it for $3000? I dont know whether 90s watch is considered vintage or not, but this video makes me reconsider the purchase.

Awesome video, I absolutely still want 1, but now know how they're perceived and some of the shortcomings. Personally, I'm in the military and heard about these having their place in history. I just hope I get a tighter band lol, if not I'll be buying a replacement. Do you know of any other military issued Rolex's other than some 6694's? Thanks, enjoyed the video!

For Datejust. Jubilee bracelet are good in models 1980s and up (info as in -don’t get a jubilee type in model younger than the 80s. **Just trust me on this) Sapphire glass used in models 1990s and up Rolex uses 904L steel used in models around 2004 and up New jubilee bracelet used in models 2009 and up New jubilee bracelet clasp in models 2017 and up Datejust II are models from 2009 -2015 Datejust 41 are models from 2017 to present Tips: want vintage? - aim for the models in 1985-1989. Skip the 90s! Want modern? 904 steel and precious gold less likely to have corrosion. Aim for models 2004 and up. Good luck 😀

@IcejjfishTbone

3 жыл бұрын

I'm going to save up maybe $5-6 grand and get a newer date just (1985-modern)

Good analysis John...what is your view on picking up a Batman? Looks like the price has coming down although slightly...is this a long term collectible keeper in your opinion?

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Joseph, it all really depends on the circumstances. For example, for someone that has ample expendable income, and likes the Batman, sure- I would recommend buying one now, wearing it, and holding it forever. Though, for someone that wishes to have one of two watches in their collection, and is not that into the Batman, I can not recommend it as there are more versatile watches on the market. This being said, I believe that certainly in 50 years, this watch will be one of the most desirable so long as Rolex and "vintage" are both going concerns. If you have Batman funds stashed away, and would like to take a 50 year gamble to see if you can outperform inflation- pick one up :)

I wonder how hard it is to get a 70s/80s datejust serviced.... don’t know if many shops around were i live would be able to service it

Spot on. This is also what i’ve realised and will always buy new from AD with discount (not possible in current times but the time will come).

Do these points also count for the vintage/reissued timex marlins?

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

At the price point, it is okay to have both :)

You got some really true points here! Nice vid

Hi man, can you tell from wich years we need to watch when we talk about quallity for example 2000+ year or from wich year they are with higher quallity?

@JohnPWatches

4 жыл бұрын

Rolex always keeps up with the case quality of the time. For example a 1970s Datejust will be of quality then just as a 2019 Datejust will be of quality now. Though, even though I have some very early Datejusts which I do wear, after 1984-1985 will have sapphire crystal which generally modern or usual watch guys enjoy. Shoot past that point if it is you, and assume the newer the better as they continue to improve their brand.

@Visitor555

4 жыл бұрын

@@JohnPWatches I understand that and it have logic to be like this everyting improove with years but wich one for the price for example for oyster perpertual and datejust are good in your opinion if we buy second hand?

watching this in 2022 hearing about 2-3k budget. makes me want to cry

Wow... the set or backdrop looks great... the sound is great too.. this video came out really great.

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy!

What do you think about the Datejust reference 16234? Is it a safe by, in relation to the points mentioned in your video?

@dippin1523

5 жыл бұрын

it is

What’s considered vintage?

can you buy an affordable watch with a good stainless steel bracelet? example certina, tissot, citizen, casio, everyone complains about Seiko but what about watches between $100-$500

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I'm not too familiar with that category. I'll look into it, thanks.

Thanks for this I was on the fence before. I’m on the waiting list now for the Rolex I really want.

Thank You. This video gave me some insight into what watch I actually want.

These point really needed to be said and I agree with you, I’m pleased you made this video 👍😎

Nice shirt, where did you get it?

Bought one from 1984 I have had it for over a year and love it. Get lots of compliments and it has doubled in value...soo yeah...

Great points!

Depending how vintage you go, the drawbacks are rolled/cheap links, hollow end link, friction press clasp and non quickset and acrylic. And overpolished cases. I don't mind acrylic and can live with the clasp. If I can get solid end links and quick set date, I don't care much beyond that. I feel like either way, I'd have it on leather most of the time anyway.

I appreciate this video.

Love vintage datejusts, but not really a great value at 3500 for a nice one. 90s explorer seems like the cheapest way to get a modernish quality and sized rolex, if thats your thing

Bought my Datejust 1601 two years ago and love it more and more every day

Don't agree with most of your rationale here especially when you say the technological gap in quality between vintage and current models, yeah yeah, but when you compare prices say $ 2500 for an early 80s datejust and the $8-12K sticker for new then dollar per dollar it makes sense to go vintage I mean the Price gap is huge compared to the quality gap (just my opinion).

Your theory applies to every watch brand that started before 1980

One of the best videos I've ever seen. A friend of mine has got a 90s Submariner and when I take it in my hands I can't believe that people is gonna pay some grands for that. I pulled the trigger on a new 2017 126300, the quality is awesome....

I got a 2001 ROLEX DATEJUST 16233 “NO HOLES CASE” DIAMOND DIAL-bracelet is 80% good..BUT SOON ILL BE PURCHASING A ROLEX DAY-DATE 18238 DOUBLE QUICKSET-OR A NEW 2 TONE GMT-OR 2 TONE SUBY--THE NEW 2 TONES WILL BE NEW TO ME BECAUSE OR LARGER CASE SIZE--SO IM EXITED

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

Congrats! Wear it in good health!

I love vintage Datejusts I own 2 of them. You just have to know what your getting into. For new collectors, I would recommend buying new first or at least preowned. Buying a vintage Rolex can be a risk if your buying from a unknown dealer. So buy from someone who really knows vintage Rolex and has a great reputation.

Many Rolex watches on Chrone24 are sold without original papers and box. Why? So when you buy a new Rolex the first thing is you do to put the Rolex papers in the shredder and the box in the bin?

@dippin1523

5 жыл бұрын

I could never figure that out. something that valuable and throw out papers and box? hmmmmm. something not right there.

Great points, John. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, experience, and opinion. I am to see you flourishing on KZread. Keep up the good work!

Kinda get what u mean how ever I own a few Rolex AP 16710 and more but my 1601 stays on my wrist 11 month in a year lol but I enjoy the comfort the class and the low key ness how ever that’s why u should buy it not as oh it’s cheap

I'm on the fence between a 2000-2004 Datejust 16200 roman blue dial or a brand new black OP 39.

Great video. I just had the pins replaced and stretch fixed for 150 bucks in the USA. MY 16200 ROLEX CAME BACK NEAR PERFECT I had it serviced for 200 USD. TOOK only 2 weeks. Buffed and polished. Great video. Ask if you want the name of guy that did this work. Neal

You forgot to mention some vintage DJ do not have quickset date. It is a PITA to wind the date from one side of the month to the other. Also, the waterproofness might be gone. I have one just like that - it was my father's daily. It's got a cool 70's vibe, but it is essentially a piece of mechanical antique.

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

Good catch, if I mentioned all the differences, this would turn into a feature length film, hehe.

Is buying a vintage 1601 for 2k and buying the dial you like a bad idea?

For me buying a vintage Rolex it’s like buying a piece of history. Does’nt matter if it has different quality compare to modern Rolex manufacture. You buy it because it’s beautiful, you have to appreciate the old first because there is where they started. For me it does’nt matter the quality. You can’t compare a brand new watch to a 70’s or 80’s watch. Im still buy a vintage Rolex to begin my journey in this watch world 👍🏼

Thanks for the advice...

I appreciate this critical watch video. Most watch videos today are just lovefests. Many thanks, John.

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

As a professional watchmaker...you pretty much get what you pay for until you get REALLY old Rolex, such as a bubble back, in which case you will pay a lot of money for a watch that doesn't work well. My concern with vintage watches is parts availability and movement design. There are some movements I wont touch like the 1161. As for vintage datejust designs, parts are available though most will be after market and the watch itself is designed with the watchmaker in mind and are a dream to work on. Just be careful of what you buy

Is a 2002 16234 white gold fluted bezel 3135 DJ Vintage? Because i think its the best 36mm next to the modern DJs.

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

I can not consider a 2002 vintage now.

At first I was wondering where you were going with this because the DJ is my favorite watch of all times but halfway thru I understood and I have to agree. When I bought my Sarb035 and compared it to my dad's 1987 DJ, I could see it easily match and surpasses the quality (but not the style). And as somebody trying to own something modern, I totally agree. The Oyster Perpetual is a much better option for $5k vs a $3k vintage if you wanted new. But this dated level of quality (and it is what to be expected from a 40+ year old watch) extends to all the other models as well and not just the DJ.

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I suspect those that criticized did not watch the video through or not did catch the argument. Though, very glad you did. Thanks for watching ! :)

I hope you will make a follow up video where you show examples/pictures. Especially on quality differences between modern and vintages. Also I wonder what your thoughts are on the quality of modern bracelets compared to vintage. You mention the quality of modern cases and the looseness of vintage bracelets but not the quality. So many things can be explained and shown such as full metal links, screws (and use of heat sensitive glue) etc. for modern (Rolex) bracelets compared to vintage bracelets. There should be more videos on KZread with regards to bracelets I think.

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

Great idea. It's now on the list. Thanks!

Nice video. Vintage Rolex is pure class.

Too late, I did just that and I'm pretty happy with it.

@JohnPWatches

4 жыл бұрын

Congrats :)

Actually I bought one three months ago and I love it even more from day to day. Okey yes I bought a pretty good condition Dj and overpayed a little bit but I love my 1600 and wouldn‘t change it to any modern Rolex. The open 6 and 9, the light jubilee and the overall proportions on the vintage one just do it for me. I agree on some of your points but at 2-3k the Dj is still a steel.

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

I see what you did there ;)

This is great advice for anyone who is trying to get a rolex which looks similar to a modern one, but is not a vintage fan. Whereas I think most people who like vintage datejusts and other Oysters enjoy vintage watches.

Excellentand important topic John. Today's tec takes the toughness and durability of most mechanicals to an entirely different level of construction - todays sport watches are able to be sports tools. Vintage pieces are about the , charm , historical style and design - these are not typically going to last as daily drivers for the modern sportsman. Well done. Thanks.

@dippin1523

5 жыл бұрын

the 16233 and 16234 are modern enough for me. I honestly think they are the nicest rolexes.

Datejust 1996 is good?

Only downside is lack of a quick set date before 1979. Love my 1965 DJ 1603 and 78 1630.

Very interesting point of view. I really enjoy my 16030 Datejust on the original Jubelee. The vintage bracellets are totally different than the new ones. My 1680 Sub also shows the Oyster bracellet worn out after 42 years. Time passes and products are improved. Even though the better new constructions and redesigned I still consider prices insane. Thank you for the video.

Sapphire crystal quickset datejust 36mm 16038 came out around 1978,79...

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, the all gold models did introduce sapphire around this time, thanks for contributing. The others began in around 84, but there are some examples of the crystals being mixed in production in those years.

The main difference is vintage datejust carries history and rode through time. Every vintage watch tells a story. That’s why people are buying them, they are buying history too.

the beauty of the acrylic is you can polish it with polywatch and it sparkles like new. Just avoid overpolishing the cyclops

How about a gold datejust 16018 from early mid 80s?

For me all this considerations…. Dipends of price… and expectatives

That little turn lol!

@JohnPWatches

5 жыл бұрын

;)

This video just convinced me to buy a vintage datejust in 2021.

excellent, excellent, excellent! as the owner of a 1974 two tone datejust i bought new and wore very sparingly you are spot on! it has never been serviced (it was only 400 dollars new!) and has major crystal scars, needs a new crown--threads are iffy if usable' the bracelet is foldover links with gold center links (jubilee). it has been in salt water and while still beautiful--definitely not a watch for a young buyer looking for years of service. a used watch is like a used car--get a new one from a real dealer unless you understand and can accept dissappointment--yes, they are much more expensive, and in my opinion not for most people unless you can pay cash!

Really really good video.

Any vintage watch essentially becomes a de facto dress watch. It doesn't matter if its a Sea Dweller or a Datejust. As the parts to service these watches become rarer or irreplaceable, often these watches loose the durability or water resistance they once have. My vintage Rolex watches have been serviced by RSC and are supposedly water resistant at their original ratings but if anything happened, the replacement of damaged original parts like the dial and hands would significantly decrease the value of the watch and much of the charm it may have held as a vintage piece. Its like having a vintage Land Rover, you aren't going to take it rock crawling with modern Jeeps, you are more likely to spend your time with it at car shows or polishing it or using it to do things a Honda Civic could accomplish (staying on maintained road ways). With vintage prices coming close to meeting or often exceeding the cost of new, you have to make a conscious decision that you value the aesthetic of a vintage watch over the function and versatility of a new piece. I built a collection of all vintage watches but it has become a point of annoyance for me to own over a dozen high end swiss watches but nothing I can wear in the pool or to the beach or during any activity that may damage one of these pieces. Its motivated me to start paring down my vintage pieces to make room for some versatile modern pieces that may lack aesthetic or story but will provide more function while still communicating my appreciation for horology.

@EverDayBest

5 жыл бұрын

I've never understood the people who care about watches being waterproof. I just don't wear a watch if I know I will be going swimming.

@DEXVD

5 жыл бұрын

I suppose the utility of higher water resistance is related to the amount of time you spend in or around the water. If you sail, row, kayak or participate in other watersports in your free time or spend a lot of time at the beach, pools or hot tubs, than to always be removing your watch for all of these activities could leave you spending a lot of time outside of your workplace or home without your watch. If you are more of an indoorsy type than sure a vintage watch or dress watch makes a lot more sense for your lifestyle, you won't gain significant benefit from having a watch with water resistance. For the indoorsy type that still likes the look of a sports watch a vintage sports watch or something like that 38mm Panerai with 30m water resistance could make sense.

@EverDayBest

5 жыл бұрын

True. I generally like 1940's - 1960's dress watches on straps. I am an active person in shape but don't do any watersports. From my observation, I have a feeling that a large proportion of the people interested in water proofing aren't necessarily going to get any use out of it, but rather peace of mind.

@zzeuss87

5 жыл бұрын

@@EverDayBest That is probably true.

Getting back to this video after purchasing a vintage 1500 Date (first got me a Speedmaster, than a Fortis Flieger gen.1 and now, finally, the Rolex - after a long chase for one in good condition and any documentation). Man, it looks and feels super robust. But smaller than I'm used to - 34mm. This is the only barrier.

The modern solid end link/middle link bracelets and milled clasps are what have really made a huge difference.