Do NOT Buy A Fiat 124 Spider!
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Five reasons NOT to buy a Fiat 124 Spider Abarth!
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"It's a rare car so parts will be hard to find" It's an ND Miata with a popular Fiat/Dodge engine! Things like brakes, suspension, interior, etc have the entire Miata aftermarket community behind them, the engine is popular enough to have plenty of support, and the transmission is from the NC. Part of why I bought my 124 Abarth was that it's rare but most parts should be cheap/easy to get!
@desertsoldier41
2 жыл бұрын
Yup if I want a cheap engine part I just search for Dodge Dart parts.
@noflexzone6170
2 жыл бұрын
I got in minor fender bender. Other driver at fault. He rear ended me at like 5 mph. The damage is $4,600 🫠 1 year later, still not fixed. 3 fiat dealers are unhelpful. Blind spot monitoring and reverse sensors not working even tho replaced with genuine mopar parts. Mazda refuses to work on my car..
@desertsoldier41
Жыл бұрын
@@noflexzone6170 The blind spot monitors and sonic sensors on the bumper all have to be calibrated. The body shop likely did not perform the procedure as you need a Wytech subscription and Bosch interface to do it.
@DoktrDub
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think many people understand the power plant and chassis
@dyjaun94
Жыл бұрын
Redline did an entire tear down of the 124 spider next to the Miata and marked everything that is direct fit and what isn’t. It’s a nice reference. Also, this guy bought this car literally not expecting it to be this car lol.
I bought my 124 Spider a year ago and still in love with it! Now I'm about to go for a ride with the top down after watching this video, lol.
@vulturewaterbug
Жыл бұрын
Right. 76 degrees outside. I'm with you!
Never had a problem with parts prices. Most of the parts are ND Miata aside from the trans which is NC. The engine is used in just about every Fiat model and some Chrysler vehicles. Never had any problems getting any engine part. Just don't buy stuff from the dealer.
@rdmineer1
Жыл бұрын
Rockauto.
@yahyara2429
10 ай бұрын
The stealership is bad.
The reasons to buy it highly outweigh your reasons not to buy it.🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹👍
@paulyakaitis3352
2 күн бұрын
I don’t care about these small problems because the Miata is smaller, but the Spider is sexy Macho!
What a headscratcher of a review! We have a 124 spider and love it. Maybe you should change the heading of your review lol
All reasons of not buy this car are ridiculous except the price
You DO have a cubbyhole behind each seat, too. Why did we only sell less than 16,000? FIAT never advertised them. No one knew they were for sale.
@smrtman
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I forget about them because they are hidden.
Owner here. It has 3 glove boxes. One behind the shoulder which he shows and 2 more secret compartments behind the seats (one per seat). Thieves don't know about those two.
There are storage behind both seats
@seanin1990
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
i watched all of your smartcar videos years back when i wanted one. now i want a 124 spider abarth and found your channel again. damnit paul, what’s next.
@smrtman
2 жыл бұрын
Haha! Thanks for checking it out. Not sure what’s next but I’m sure we have the same taste in cars.
@danielgaraycochea6860
2 жыл бұрын
@@smrtman Smart car to the Fiat Abarth 124 Spider? yeah I bet we have the same taste. We just like to keep it original on the road with something unique hahaha.
So what would you recomend in a car in the same class other than the Mazda Miata which I hate. BMW Z4, Porshe Boxer, or other?
I've had my 2017 classica for over a year now and it was & still is the best choice for me. Coming from a 7th Gen civic tuned with kpro. It's objectively slow but feels quick. Was looking at 370z's, RSX's, BRZ's and mustangs but none could give me everything I wanted for under $23k with low miles; 24,000ish. You can easily add carplay/android auto easily with a firmware hack or a $50 retrofit. But ended up replacing the whole thing with a chinese android headunit. Put a subwoofer in the trunk. And upgraded to an autoricambi exhaust. I love this car to death. No issues so far.
The infotainment issue you’ve described ive never experienced, or even heard about. Perhaps you could use a firmware update… which was done in the late 2018’s and beyond. Mine is a 2020, i have no complaints. Yours looks a pre-revision 2017-2018 so you have the first version of the firmware which actually means you can tweak it, or just update to the latest firmware.
Great review and like your style thank you
I see what you did there :) Curious, where did you get the production numbers? That is more than I thought. Good info.
@smrtman
2 жыл бұрын
Not sure where they get their info but goodcarbadcar.net has every cars production numbers broken down. If you Google production #s, they are usually first.
So what if there is no glove box there is a box between the chairs pull the trunk shut while you're in there I have a 124 great to drive
I love my 124 Spider! Parts should not be an issue. Lots on used market from salvage vehicles. If engine goes on me I’ll drop a Miata engine in its place. I will be picking up a second one when prices drop in winter (Hopefully…)
@desertsoldier41
6 ай бұрын
I will drop an LS
Well I’m still gonna get it lol I think it’s a great car! 😊
Any notiable repairs cropped up on that spider?
I LOVE my classica! I’ve had several different roadsters and I’ve never loved one like I LOVE the classica. I sort of bought it on a whim not knowing what to do with a 2003 vw beetle convertible I inherited. I like the vw but not the complexity of things going wrong. Ended up with an offer on the vw I could not refuse from a man looking for one for his daughter and then I saw the classica on a lot. They had 2 124s. Both 2020. Both brand new. A lusso and the classica. And being that fiat was discontinuing the spider I was even more interested in them as they had a limited run in the USA and were somewhat unique. As I wanted this as a long term keeper the lusso kind of turned me off with the moving headlights and such. Just seemed like stuff to break that would be way expensive and complex to repair, which I had already faced with with vw. So I test drove the classica. It had exactly 4 miles on it. And oh I fell in love. Bought it that day. I did notice some of his complaints about laggyness, till I wore the engine in. Now at 18,000 miles with everything nicely worn in every time I drove it I love it more. The car loves to be pushed. It loves to be played with. And it just keeps giving more and more and more fun! And now that they are no longer available, I love it even more. People ask all the time what’s that? Only 6500 sold in the USA. And they think if cost twice what it did. And I have to say. There is just something to be said about the feeling of saying, yeah I love my Italian roadster! I know it’s a Mazda with a Chrysler engine. But to me it’s an Italian sport car dream come true. Never have I loved a car so much. It’s just fun pure and simple. And in closing. Ummm. Who is your barber? He slipped with the razor on your right side. And oh my what was he thinking in the rest? Time to find a new guy? Lol
@rdmineer1
Жыл бұрын
German engineering costs too much and breaks too much. And if you have to remove a fender to change a lightbulb, my cousin's EOS, that is not a well engineered vehicle in my book.
@ag4allgood
6 ай бұрын
In 2017 early March I saw a video review of the new Fiat 124 Spyder Abarth. The reviewer loved the car & watching the video got me to a nearby ( when Fiat was still here ) Fiat / Alfa Romeo dealer. Sitting in their lot was a nice white 2017 124 Spyder Abarth. So I took it for a test ride. The thing I noticed right away was how heavy the clutch pedal felt. Also the engine throttle response was delayed from turbo lag as I hit stop lights. The shifter also had a tight gate to it & it had a weird shape to it. I stalled 2 times thinking I was in 1st but it was really 3rd. Not impressed by the test drive. Next day I was at the Mazda dealer. They had a White 2016 MX-5 Club soft top with the Brembo / BBS package looking very close to the options on the 124. The MX-5 Club has a super light clutch pedal with a Ball shifter that felt good in the hand. Throttle response was instant & shifting thru the gears was a blast. Its been 6 years & that MX-5 Club soft top now sits in my garage ! For me driving both of these cars showed a Big difference in how they drove. No question the MX-5 had what I wanted in a roadster. Its been a great car & easy to work on. The after market parts are well made & adding an active exhaust system really made it sound so much better. I do my own oil changes & change out the wheels / tires from summer performance to winter performance. Mazda really did a great job on the roadster.
@Tony-hc9fw
2 ай бұрын
Hi man, I’m very happy to see how much you love your Fiat 124. I’m about to purchase my one, here in Italy. So, would you recommend to buy it? Ah, one thing: it actually has Fiat Engine (and not a Chrysler one). Fiat as manufacturer of engine is very reliable. Greetings from Italy, man!
I work at dodge and really wish they put the 2.4 in it
Owner here. Bluetooth works great for me; might be your phone. You can find instructions to upgrade to Android Auto and Carplay (though the Android doesn't work with touch). I've done the upgrade. Not that you buy this for the infotainment anyway. Smrtman: "You don't want to own a Ferrari 250 Lusso because the infotainment is terrible". 🤣
So you should buy it or not?
you had me going....I like the 124 , I also own a 1982 automatic (red) maybe one day ill get a 2017 model.
It's built to be a fun little roadster. Obviously, you misinterpret the word turbo to mean race car. I believe most cars get a bad reputation not for the way they are built but the way they are abused and their maintenance is neglected. My (first year) 2012 Sonic LS 5-spd, no stressing f*g turbo, runs perfectly. Routine oil changes, one set of tires, spark plugs it didn't really need and a coolant tube to the throttle body are all has been done; the last two I did myself in less than an hour, total. Gets 40.3mpg and has never been subject to any recall. I push it a little, occasionally, been over 100 with little effort, and it's fun, but mostly keep it around or below the speed limit.
Nice video, totally agree , i owned two fiat yrs ago. I also had a Honda S2000, kick myself in the ars for selling it. Much fun. Keeping an eye out for the 124 any model but the Abarth is tops. Pls let me know if you see one for sale. Ciao
@patatewz
6 ай бұрын
your favorite? s2k or abarth?
At first I was like "this guy is douchebag" but after I finished the vajeo I liked him and the way he presented. I will buy a Fiat spider 124.
I wish you guys got the European Abarth version. Monaza exhaust, more power. I love mine. No Fiat badges all Abarth
There was 0 advertising of these cars in the US which is really sad. I take my white and black abarth out and eyes are always on it haha. Some people seriously think its some kind of ferrari or something.
@smrtman
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree! Nobody knows what type of car it is. Enjoy your Abarth!!
Utter nonsense...never had any issues with bluetooth and no one else I know who has had one either, and behind both seats storage and small cubby. But....this is a small car and no o e expects all the storage you complain about. How silly...truly I've never seen such nonsense.
One of the best cheap upgrades was the ijdmtoy LED side marker light. Sequential and smoked plastic look soooooo much better and super cheap.
There is a storage behind the seats not everybody knows about it.
I´d buy it just to listen to that "Record Monza exaust" :-)
The reason only 15 16,000 of these cars were sold was number one because of Fiat marketing which was not existent. And secondly the main forum for enthusiasts is truly run by insecure idiots who ran off all the people that were doing exciting things with their car and those things would have generated a lot of attention for the brand. So in my mind the Forum which was supposed to generate attention in the aftermarket which would have also led to sales is 50% responsible for killing the brand. The same idiots are running the Forum and what you'll notice is the people that are doing the most with these cars in the aftermarket do not go on it anymore
Some owners say that her alarm goes off spontaneously while driving and her seat belts doesn't work well. Have you encountered such problems?😮
I didn’t know Kyle Rittenhouse was doing car videos on KZread.
Please with all due respect, change your header to few reason or so cause Every person car are fully different. even they have the same car. but u can not say DO NOT BUY IT.. i drove my cousin fiat spider and the mazda version Mx 5 and it was fun, plus he don't have any issues on it.. like i said every one taste are different .. i just find it weird to say DONT BUY THIS CAR.. kinda mean tbh!! i will buy this car for sure . lastly this is a sports car, not a MPV or SUV or hatchback, many sport cars doesn't have many storage's at all!! really need to dig on your cars review before uploading.. I'm not fighting or being rude but just giving you an Head up on those.
Im thinking to get one Do u guys recommend this car?
@d4rkphnx191
Жыл бұрын
Lemme know if you get an answer to this😭
Love mine !! The smiles per gallon are unreal 😊
And not a reason of not swaping to 2.0 with twin turbo and be closer to RWD mini j56😁
I have a 124 Lusso.. and its freaking awesome. Mr. 1.3k followers isnt changing history here...
You forgot to mention the sun visors. I’ve had quite a bit of problems with the infotainment playing music from my phone too. Intermittent and annoying
@smrtman
2 жыл бұрын
Haha, I drive a Smart car. The Sun visors in the 124 are an improvement 😂
@davidbattaglia2336
2 жыл бұрын
@@smrtman Good Lord! I’m frightened to think of the Smart car visors if they are worse!
You can upgrade infotainment to add android auto and apple carplay
@smrtman
2 жыл бұрын
Someone was telling me that. I may look into it!
@jaimerodriguez449
Жыл бұрын
How do you do this
I just need to know is it reliable, what are the common issues and is it hard to work on not all this 🙄
@CryptoHedge
3 ай бұрын
Reliable yes I have a 2018
@SpiderHamPeterPorker
2 ай бұрын
@CryptoHedge But how many miles have you put on it?
I would so rather have a Honda S2000
I am persuaded Tacocat, I am going to buy one of these.
Listen I have one and fucking hell gearbox gone found one on eBay for 1.5k torque converter broken found one on eBay for £450 also body work it in now going to shop. If I couldn’t find a gearbox for the price I did I would of been screwed and come on all this money to sigh out on top of Tyera break pads petrol and more it’s become way more expensive that it’s supposed to be. Still love the car. Also I got apple carplay and android installed on my car cost less than £150 installed.
@blackporscheroadster6415
2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing from your spelling that you drive your car like a child.
My first car was a 73 124 spider.... My dad and I built it up...his name was tony😉
@Tony-hc9fw
2 ай бұрын
Great! Being Italian, I'm proud to read that! Greetings from Italy...
Is he serious?
Are you aware that there is a difference between a fun car and a comfortable practical car?
Parts are absolutely not hard to find for this car
It’s a sports car it’s not made for storage. It’s also a sports car for corners not straight line speed. Round corners it’ll beat a v8 pickup 😂
I love my Spider 124.Its beautifull and a joy to drive.
You should buy a Cargo Van
It’s a nice car I recommend it
Nice video thx😊
I love my 124 Spider Abarth Manual transmission, I bought it to replace. My 944 Porsche. It is faster than the Mx5 on the Major Race Track's.
@ag4allgood
5 ай бұрын
Slower than the MX-5 on the street ! Guess where you spend the majority of the time eating my MX-5 Club soft top dust ! 😎
look carlos mencia... just because you have no idea what you have, doesnt mean you know what you know what to do with it..
A dream car But I can’t afford 😅
I hate my spider because I can’t fit a washing machine in it too but I love my spider because it’s so much fun to drive
Ok, 30 seconds into it and he just 1000 miles off the tires. Not promising.
@scheuerle2
3 ай бұрын
Sorry, ground. This guy is a clown.
My happy mobile. Makes going anywhere fun. Mail a letter for my wife? Sure. I'll be back in a half hour (or so).
3:50 You should buy it because its rare!, its going to be a collectors item!
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Igual deberías saber lo que compras antes de quejarte de lo que dices, claro que es un coche pequeño!! ya se ve que es pequeño. Y claro que no es un coche para atrevesar EEUU, es un coche para otro tipo de carrteras.
who are you to tell not to buy a 124Spider
What a load of rhubarb!
I wish they had the option to have the Miata engine in this lol..Fiat engines are garbage
I dont know why in the US the Abarth 124 has the Fiat logo on the steering wheel. In Europe, there is Abarth and thers is Fiat. Abarths has no Fiat logos in Europe and Abarth is and independent brand, owned by the FCA group.
@MrGierigegast
2 жыл бұрын
That was only the case for 2017 and early 2018 Abarths. 2019 and 2020 have Abarth logos on steering wheel.
@alexisamtosta
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrGierigegast Ahh ok. Much better
TACOCAT ROCKS!!!
@smrtman
2 жыл бұрын
Got it from my favorite restaurant, Chuys!
You don't understand the reasons for making and owning this car and the Mazda MX5. Poor Subject knowledge for a car reviewer. 😅
TacocaT 😁
I can’t believe that it only has a 1.4 L engine lol🤣🤣
@smrtman
2 жыл бұрын
It has a turbo so it’s pretty zippy!
@alexisamtosta
2 жыл бұрын
All Abarths since the 500, are all 1.4 engine and turbocharged. They go from 135bhp to 190bhp from factory.
@blackporscheroadster6415
2 жыл бұрын
You will realise it's quite fast when your wig blows off.
@FlipGuitarist80
Жыл бұрын
@@blackporscheroadster6415😂
@javierrosas8943
Жыл бұрын
🤣
This is kind of a dumb review format.
Why are you gay fiat is a good car stop crying
buy a toyota final
Fake news click baiter alert
Worst review ever. 🤦🏼♂️ ther frost reason not to buy is literally just him being to scared to drive it around bigger cars
Enjoy pride month
Get an 80s Fiat 124 if you want a real one
i was gonna buy one. i test drove it. terrible car. harsh suspension. motor has no torque and is a nightmare in traffic. needs a 2.0 t motor and softer suspension
@isaachunt5799
2 жыл бұрын
@@derstrohmann7450 the motor is crap and is a nightmare in trafic the manual is. the suspension made me feel sick i've driven over 4 million miles in my life and have drive daily non stop since 1980. i know if a car is any good or not. this fiat thing is not good. well the motor and suspension are not good
@isaachunt5799
2 жыл бұрын
@@derstrohmann7450 ask yourself why nobody bought it? it had a 2.0 turbo i rekon it would have sold like hotcakes. 1.4t motor is too weak on the low rpm to daily drive this thing. i own a new chevy camaro ss now and love it.
@isaachunt5799
2 жыл бұрын
@@derstrohmann7450 same here in sweden. but not too bad here. road tax is only 350 euros a year for me camaro and cheap to insure.
@alexisamtosta
2 жыл бұрын
You are the very 1st person that I ever heard saying that. Why does it need a 2 litre engine? Abarth knows very well what they are doing.
@alexisamtosta
2 жыл бұрын
@@isaachunt5799Many people have bought this car and still look for them. Why is it hard to drive this car as a daily?
There is only ONE reason not to buy a Fiat 124 Abarth: becausee 124 Lusso is much more attractive. The Abarth is hideous.
@huetuber1204
Жыл бұрын
The lusso looks feminine. Says a lot about you.