A Religious Person will do what he is told -- regardless of what is right; A Spiritual Person will do what is right -- regardless of what he is told.

@all4jesus594

4 жыл бұрын

RM Hutchins, great comment!

@aperfectcircle008

4 жыл бұрын

A religious follower will do what he's told -- paying no mind to what is right; a spiritual follower will do what is right -- regardless of what he's told. A cult follower is determined to reject any distinction between what he's told and what is right -- if it is right, then he has been told, and if he has been told, then it is right.

@MegaLdawg

4 жыл бұрын

Did you ever hear the one (and I paraphrase), "The wise regard religion as false, the simple as true, and the rulers as useful" ?

@BrianMillsMFA

4 жыл бұрын

@Teddygalbis Nephi decapitated an unconscious man "because the Spirit told him to." So yeah, if Rusty Nelson says to kill the infidels, we are toast.

@rmhutchins7

4 жыл бұрын

@Teddygalbis See Mountain Meadows Massacre -- where the Mormons, point blank, shot and killed 120+ UNARMED, INNOCENT, men, women, and children (travelling through Utah on their way to California) in a valley called Mountain Meadows in Southern Utah on September 11, 1957, because the Mormons were ordered to do so by their church leaders! The Mormon Church, under the direction of Brigham Young, covered it up for years (blaming it on the Ute Indians); the massacre was, subsequently, uncovered by the Federal Government,

I call idol worship.

@jameslowery320

2 жыл бұрын

You misspelled idiot

I converted at 21 and became inactive, ive been active for 6 yrs and had a calling as teacher and ward missionary. I was so happy. My husband isn't Mormon but my kids are which created some friction when I would take them bc they would say, why can't I stay home with dad? Then about 3 months ago, I suddenly lost ALL desire to go to church, teach my class or go to meetings, then I found out about Joseph Smith being a Freemason and my world, my bubble popped. It IS shocking to find out everything you knew to be true was a lie but I didn't meet Jesus in the church, so I don't need a building or 501(c)3 demonic system to continue my relationship with him. Actually, its brought me MUCH closer to Jesus being away from LDS. I still lovr ALL the people, I just choose not to participate anymore. My adult kids are in but I'll wait patiently for them to see the TRUTH. Its only been a few months away but I am beginning to realize that the thing I learned MOST by being a Mormon is how powerful our minds are. When we believe something, its our reality. Maybe the LDS is "an experiment" to see how fully one can be programmed to blindly follow something. I mean, if I were the devil, this ALL would be of great importance to know how many ppl you have that will do whatever is asked of them in the "name" of Jesus, would it not? What a superb way to mock God, by this ENTIRE religion doing Satan's work, but in God's name. That's what it looks like to me anyway. I could be wrong. One last point. God NEVER changes so why does the church? Love to all here. ❤

@kkheflin3

4 жыл бұрын

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.

Also, I ask TBM's to think about this... If you excuse prophecies gone wrong in the past by telling yourself that the "prophet was just speaking as a fallible man" _then why follow any of them??_ If you can't tell when they are making a mistake, yet you mold your life around this "mistake" and then you are told 20 years later the prophet made an all too human mistake -- how is Mormonism different than *_any_* other religion or denomination of Christianity? [Well outside of the fact they are worth more than 30 Billion dollars - and missionaries still have to raise money for their missions?? incredible.]

@MrRbrim

4 жыл бұрын

If you cant trust the previous. Brigham, Mark E, Monson and the policy ect. Why should you trust the currents. Makes no logical sense. Either you speak for God, or you don't. There can be no middle ground!

@bigskypioneer1898

4 жыл бұрын

@Teddygalbis Actually - you would be surprised at how many denominations of Christianity practice shunning/ disfellowshipping or excommunication. I suspect that the Jehovah's Witnesses are the *worst* offenders. They have beliefs that actually can kill people - they believe it is a sin to get a blood transfusion, even if it will save someone's life - and if you agree to get one, even it saves your life or your infant child's life - you are shunned. My rule - any religion that would break apart a family over religious doctrine is dangerous. If you know you could be asked to choose church over your child - you need to ask yourself if that is _really_ agape - love?

@krissander1

4 жыл бұрын

Surely someone is a prophet or not, if their prophecies are wrong they are false prophets. I believe the penalty for being a false prophet is somewhat harsh, so how many Mormon prophets should be paying the penalty.

@kategreaves_daisies1000

4 жыл бұрын

@Teddygalbis Check out the ex jw's and the film:Apostasy

Your video reminds me of a time when I was exiting the church and my Bishop came over to my house to chat about my concerns. Nothing he said would have changed my mind at that time, I had realized I had been lied too all my life, I was done. At one point (being down on all religions) I said to him "religions fly airplanes into buildings" He said "Some" I replied "Mormons would if told to do so." He had a good poker face at that response and said nothing more other then some small talk and left. I never went back, resigned soon after and never heard from him again. The poll you took and its results don't surprise me, in fact it concerns me.

@brentfisher902

3 жыл бұрын

"Centipedes? In MY vagina?" You aren't immune because of religions. Mormons would fly airplanes into to buildings if told to do so. Knowledge is power.

Culters gotta cult 🙄

@dirkhoekstra727

4 жыл бұрын

LOL!

@highlandparkgeneraldetroit7715

4 жыл бұрын

😂

I think you nailed it. Most people answering yes were doing so in good faith. In other words, they were assuming that the prophet by definition, would _never_ ask them to do something crazy. If we are asked to do something against our basic moral code, the reaction of most law-abiding citizens is to go through the motions of doing the crazy thing or coming as close as they can without actually doing the crazy thing. Answering "yes" was hypothetical and made them feel good about being a TBM. Answering "no" would make them feel uncomfortable -- but I wonder how many actually visualized an extreme scenario when they answered.

@rmhutchins7

4 жыл бұрын

The Mountain Meadows Massacre [where the Mormons killed over 100 innocent people because they were ordered to do so by the leaders of their church] is a perfect example of otherwise righteous people abandoning their own conscience in favor of the edicts of their religious leaders.

Did anyone else ever think the “follow the prophet” song from primary days was like a dark ominous song???? I did not like the tune of that. It reminded me of this old Halloween song from the 90s....

@madizen6312

3 жыл бұрын

Brainwashing through song. I also felt it wasn't good

@angelenapulis9083

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh… You’re right. The melody is super creepy!

So no matter what a prophet says it is correct until he dies, at which point a new prophet can declare it was wrong. Does this mean that as God spoke through his prophet, God was wrong???

@hannahmartin9056

Жыл бұрын

When you lead a cult, you are "above" logic; those who dare to question will either leave, be pushed out, or begin to question their sanity.

Holy shit! This is crazy! Thank you Lexi!

If the prophet makes a mistake,followers make an excuse,if someone questions that excuse,they make an another excuse to cover it..it's lather,rinse and repeat with mormonism.

@tjmorrison1909

4 жыл бұрын

Great comment ! Love it. I read yesterday that during "salamander-gate" (Hoffman) when Oaks was presented the first vision salamander letter he made up some rationale to validate it as true because he thought it was. And people bought it hook line and sinker. Hey, he's a prophet ... You can look it up - it was nuts. I am seeing this time and time again, as you put it, lather, rinse repeat with Mormonism.

@chloelondon8970

4 жыл бұрын

"validate it as true because he thought he was"you pretty much summed up the LDS religion in one sentence there

@danielmoore4024

4 жыл бұрын

@@chloelondon8970 You're just a bunch of liars for your foolishness to trust apostates who have no intention of been truthful, there was no prophecy of when The Second Coming will be! D&Cs 130:14-16 14 I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man, when I heard a voice repeat the following: 15 Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble me no more on this matter. 16 I was left thus, without being able to decide whether this coming referred to the beginning of the millennium or to some previous appearing, or whether I should die and thus see his face. Verse 16, "without being able to decide" Joseph Smith never prophesied the Second Coming, he did teach no one will know when the Second Coming is; D&Cs 49:6-7 6 And they have done unto the Son of Man even as they listed; and he has taken his power on the right hand of his glory, and now reigneth in the heavens, and will reign till he descends on the earth to put all enemies under his feet, which time is nigh at hand- 7 I, the Lord God, have spoken it; but the hour and the day no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor shall they know until he comes. D&Cs 121:34-35; 39-40 34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen? 35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson- 39 We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion. 40 Hence many are called, but few are chosen. Apostates come to desire the honor of man and unrighteous dominionship over others, Exmo Lex and other apostates take unrighteous dominionship over the critics for the honor of man. Don't be foolish and just repeat what apostates have to say, they pull quotes and sentences out of whole paragraphs not willing to share the rest with you.

@jaredmitchell1302

4 жыл бұрын

@@danielmoore4024 none of your 1800s harry potter nonsense is real. You live in a fantasy world and it's time to grow up and wake up.

Nothing like going down the rabbit hole of ex-mormon content on a Sunday.

I love all this information! Thank you!

I'm a solid 5 years out of the church now and those 5 are the best of my whole life. Have there been hard times? Yes. Still the best 5 years because I wasn't processing those hard times through the lense of mormon guilt that somehow those hard times were because I wasn't trying at something hard enough. SO SO glad I left. Best damn decision I ever made!

All I can say is: Thank you for your channel! I just TODAY found your videos. I have been an ex-Mormon since 2001 and you have taught me so much! I've subscribed and have been binge watching/listening to you most the day. I am so glad you (and your husband) have decided to share your experiences!

Okay it's challenge time for the faithful Latter-day Saints; Tomorrow is Sunday, so here's the challenge, with the exception of prayers, count how many times the name of Jesus is even mentioned, in either Priesthood meeting, Relief Society, Sacrament meeting, or Sunday School. Do that for 4 weeks, God will reveal to you what you really worship.

@danielmoore4024

4 жыл бұрын

Ken Olson, over 500 times per month in my Ward, surprising how wrong your assumptions are isn't it, now I'll give you a challenge! Explain to me why you are foolish enough to listen to liars. D&Cs 130:14-16 14 I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man, when I heard a voice repeat the following: 15 Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble me no more on this matter. 16 I was left thus, without being able to decide whether this coming referred to the beginning of the millennium or to some previous appearing, or whether I should die and thus see his face. Verse 16, "without being able to decide" Joseph Smith never prophesied the Second Coming, he did teach no one will know when the Second Coming is; D&Cs 49:6-7 6 And they have done unto the Son of Man even as they listed; and he has taken his power on the right hand of his glory, and now reigneth in the heavens, and will reign till he descends on the earth to put all enemies under his feet, which time is nigh at hand- 7 I, the Lord God, have spoken it; but the hour and the day no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor shall they know until he comes. Remember D&Cs 121:34-35; 39-40 34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen? 35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson- 39 We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion. 40 Hence many are called, but few are chosen. Apostates come to desire the honor of man and unrighteous dominionship over others, Exmo Lex and other apostates take unrighteous dominionship over the critics for the honor of man. Don't be foolish and just repeat what apostates have to say, they pull quotes and sentences out of whole paragraphs not willing to share the rest with you.

Your husband is the luckiest man on the planet

@ExmoLex

4 жыл бұрын

Ben Price aww that’s really sweet haha ♥️

@rmhutchins7

4 жыл бұрын

An actual THINKING WOMAN -- rather that "Don't think for yourself; just follow the prophet." My wife is in the "Don't think; just follow the prophet -- he knows the way!" mentality (or lack thereof). "When the prophet speaks, the thinking is done!" A bunch of automatons.

@Cryptosifu

4 жыл бұрын

I agree

@Dreammaster695

4 жыл бұрын

Naw that’s Donald trump born into money becomes a billionaire, disrespects people all his life becomes president

Doing whatever the prophet says without question. This is how we get Jonestown and heavens gate situations. Not saying they will go that far, but this mentality can lead to those situations. Also been bingeing your videos. Love them! Edit: just watched the entire video and realized you addressed this lol

Love the Holy-Koolaid nod! His channel was extremely helpful in my deprogramming phase.

Love your videos Lex. Your a brave young woman and so eloquent in how you present your thoughts on the church. Wish I had the courage to get out at your age but waited until I was well into my 40s. Keep up the entertaining content...

Doing anything your leader asks is how we have the mountain meadows massacre. Granted that wasn't the prophet, but it's a similar sentiment.

@benmorris3212

4 жыл бұрын

@Jon Schoen I think we know quite a bit about it, no thanks to the obstruction perpetrated by Brigham Young and the actual murderers. The local stake presidents were the leaders of the militia. I doubt you can get that many men to brutally murder unarmed men, women, and children....and then not even face church discipline outside of John D. Lee (decades later).....without that "obey your leaders" mentality. You can see it differently, but I think enough is there to assume the connection.

@kennethbailey2616

4 жыл бұрын

Brigham Young has his own personal assassin named Porter Rockwell. Young was slimy pile garbage.

@danielmoore4024

4 жыл бұрын

@@benmorris3212 Why are you foolish enough to trust liars like apostate Exmo Lex here? D&Cs 130:14-16 14 I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man, when I heard a voice repeat the following: 15 Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble me no more on this matter. 16 I was left thus, without being able to decide whether this coming referred to the beginning of the millennium or to some previous appearing, or whether I should die and thus see his face. Verse 16, "without being able to decide" Joseph Smith never prophesied the Second Coming, he did teach no one will know when the Second Coming is; D&Cs 49:6-7 6 And they have done unto the Son of Man even as they listed; and he has taken his power on the right hand of his glory, and now reigneth in the heavens, and will reign till he descends on the earth to put all enemies under his feet, which time is nigh at hand- 7 I, the Lord God, have spoken it; but the hour and the day no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor shall they know until he comes. Remember D&Cs 121:34-35; 39-40 34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen? 35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson- 39 We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion. 40 Hence many are called, but few are chosen. Apostates come to desire the honor of man and unrighteous dominionship over others, Exmo Lex and other apostates take unrighteous dominionship over the critics for the honor of man. Don't be foolish and just repeat what apostates have to say, they pull quotes and sentences out of whole paragraphs not willing to share the rest with you.

@benmorris3212

4 жыл бұрын

@@danielmoore4024 Why are you foolish enough to waste your time on exmo channels, searching for any little dumb thing that can be argued, but yet ignoring the general substance of the video? Did I say I thought JS prophesied the second coming? P.S. You'll catch more flies with honey, or perhaps all those qualities espoused in section 121 in the verses just after you stopped quoting.

@danielmoore4024

4 жыл бұрын

@@benmorris3212 It's not actually foolish for I to come on anti-church material, it's an opportunity for I to teach people the truth about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by correcting lies for those of you who just believe all the propaganda and information from unqualified people. It's foolish to get information from unqualified people and people with an agenda, I've revealed one of her lies right there.

YOU NAILED IT! If the prophet gets it wrong then he is just human, but if he gets it right, then he is inspired by God. When the church came out and said any child that lives in a same sex home couldn't be baptized I knew in my heart and gut that it was wrong. When I was on my mission I tought that anyone that was of the age of accountability and had the desire to be baptized could be baptized. Sure the church changed it back, but it just goes to show that sometimes they get it wrong. I still go to church every Sunday but I am completely independent in my thinking and I am completely open minded and have respect for all religions.

@danielmoore4024

4 жыл бұрын

Steven Henderson, She nailed you. Why are you foolish enough to trust liars like apostate Exmo Lex here? D&Cs 130:14-16 14 I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man, when I heard a voice repeat the following: 15 Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble me no more on this matter. 16 I was left thus, without being able to decide whether this coming referred to the beginning of the millennium or to some previous appearing, or whether I should die and thus see his face. Verse 16, "without being able to decide" Joseph Smith never prophesied the Second Coming, he did teach no one will know when the Second Coming is; D&Cs 49:6-7 6 And they have done unto the Son of Man even as they listed; and he has taken his power on the right hand of his glory, and now reigneth in the heavens, and will reign till he descends on the earth to put all enemies under his feet, which time is nigh at hand- 7 I, the Lord God, have spoken it; but the hour and the day no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor shall they know until he comes. Remember D&Cs 121:34-35; 39-40 34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen? 35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson- 39 We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion. 40 Hence many are called, but few are chosen. Apostates come to desire the honor of man and unrighteous dominionship over others, Exmo Lex and other apostates take unrighteous dominionship over the critics for the honor of man. Don't be foolish and just repeat what apostates have to say, they pull quotes and sentences out of whole paragraphs not willing to share the rest with you.

Great video ! Ty !

Thanks for this research. I figured out that there had to a policy that living prophet always outweighed out scripture and previous prophets. I've noticed that Mormon Apologists use scriptures to attack others ... but simple ignore scriptures when it counters their opinions.

I can't even explain how ecstatic i was finding your awesome channel!🤗👌👍 Thank you, for helping abd being so informative. You are absolutely beautiful and strong! Anyhow, please keep these coming, you are such a huge help! 🤗👍👌💚🌺👏

@ExmoLex

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much ♥️♥️

@MA-zv8wn

4 жыл бұрын

Yes you are such a good help. I was. Feel guilty. For leaving the church. 3 week's ago. But. Watching your video's making me feel happy for took it the right desition. Keep shared us. More video's. Blessed

@danielmoore4024

4 жыл бұрын

@@MA-zv8wn Listening to a liar makes you happy 🤔, strange one that. D&Cs 130:14-16 14 I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man, when I heard a voice repeat the following: 15 Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble me no more on this matter. 16 I was left thus, without being able to decide whether this coming referred to the beginning of the millennium or to some previous appearing, or whether I should die and thus see his face. Verse 16, "without being able to decide" Joseph Smith never prophesied the Second Coming, he did teach no one will know when the Second Coming is; D&Cs 49:6-7 6 And they have done unto the Son of Man even as they listed; and he has taken his power on the right hand of his glory, and now reigneth in the heavens, and will reign till he descends on the earth to put all enemies under his feet, which time is nigh at hand- 7 I, the Lord God, have spoken it; but the hour and the day no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor shall they know until he comes. Remember D&Cs 121:34-35; 39-40 34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen? 35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson- 39 We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion. 40 Hence many are called, but few are chosen. Apostates come to desire the honor of man and unrighteous dominionship over others, Exmo Lex and other apostates take unrighteous dominionship over the critics for the honor of man. Don't be foolish and just repeat what apostates have to say, they pull quotes and sentences out of whole paragraphs not willing to share the rest with you. Don't join the Anti-LDS Liar committee.

@goatdeer8403

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielmoore4024 Whoa you mean that your religion is against people criticizing it? That sure is a shocker

It sounds like the LDS prophet has more power to speak for God to the church than even the Pope himself's. That's is scary. The Pope is infallible only when a certain criteria is met and not in all things. I do believe in God and that he/she gave it to us a brain to use to recognize truth from a lie.

There is a test mentioned in the Bible in which how we know a true prophet or not. For sure the Mormon prophets failed the test by their unfulfilled prophecies.

@BrelynnHeart

4 жыл бұрын

The Deut. 13 test

@elderbroomhead2671

4 жыл бұрын

And the fact that the admin of this message board block Lexi's question and banned her for it is proof enough that Brighamite Mormons are *not* Christians. It clearly states in the Bible that we are to test all self-proclaimed prophets whether they are legit or not.

@krissander1

4 жыл бұрын

If it is true it should have no problem standing up to questioning

@danielmoore4024

4 жыл бұрын

@@krissander1 Can you really be foolish enough to see apostates anymore trustworthy!? D&Cs 130:14-16 14 I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man, when I heard a voice repeat the following: 15 Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble me no more on this matter. 16 I was left thus, without being able to decide whether this coming referred to the beginning of the millennium or to some previous appearing, or whether I should die and thus see his face. Verse 16, "without being able to decide" Joseph Smith never prophesied the Second Coming, he did teach no one will know when the Second Coming is; D&Cs 49:6-7 6 And they have done unto the Son of Man even as they listed; and he has taken his power on the right hand of his glory, and now reigneth in the heavens, and will reign till he descends on the earth to put all enemies under his feet, which time is nigh at hand- 7 I, the Lord God, have spoken it; but the hour and the day no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor shall they know until he comes. D&Cs 121:34-35; 39-40 34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen? 35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson- 39 We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion. 40 Hence many are called, but few are chosen. Apostates come to desire the honor of man and unrighteous dominionship over others, Exmo Lex and other apostates take unrighteous dominionship over the critics for the honor of man. Not sorry to say, there's not false prophecies.

@krissander1

4 жыл бұрын

@@danielmoore4024 let's face it Dani there are so many flaws with BOM I am surprised there aren't more apostates. Joe Smith did make prophecies that failed, that makes him a false prophet and his BOM a false doctrine.

I remember being taught this when I was growing up. My grandpa was a member of the Quorum of the Twelve (until he died a few years ago) and we were taught that there was "Grandpa" Scott and "Elder" Scott, depending on the role he was playing at the time. After leaving the church, it took a little bit to separate the "Grandpa" side from the "Elder" side. As a grandfather, he was very caring and kind and loving, but that doesn't mean that I have to believe every word that he taught. I have learned to keep the good family memories and experiences and remember the good things, while still being able to understand that he really believed everything he was saying and that I think it is false. But I relate to this video on a personal level and agree 100% that Mormons trust and rely on the leadership of the church too much

@Warriorcats64

10 ай бұрын

Huh, Richard G Scott is one those "Apostles" I genuinely respected. Glad to know it was worth it.

Great show

Not snarky, just honest. Love your videos!

Thank you for being the beautiful person that you are! I enjoy your videos!

Interesting quote here! The LDS can't have it both ways IMHO. “Do NOT brethren, put your trust in a man though he be a bishop, an apostle, or a president. If you do, they will fail you at some time or place; they will do wrong or seem to, and your support will be gone...” - Apostle George Q. Cannon, Millennial Star, v. 53, pp. 658-659, as quoted in Gospel Truth, v. 1, p. 319

Growing up in the church, I remember being in Deacon, Teachers, and Priest Quorum, listening to lessons on following your priesthood leaders even if they were wrong, that you were not responsible for their mistakes, I ready it being hammered home that the first law of heaven was obedience, I remember it being stated that when the Prophet speaks the debate is over. There was also impression that was given if that if you died on your mission that your place in the Celestial Kingdom was guaranteed. I was not raised in a strict Mormon home, I was raised to respect all religions but, at 19 when I went on my mission my mind set was at the point that if the Prophet or any Apostle would asked me to strap a bomb to myself and blow myself up For the cause, I would have done so without question. it is scary now to think how mush blind faith I had put in church leaders.

U weren't snarky, u just tell the truth. Good message, keep it up, the truth is a two edged sword, either way, you'll send a message out. 👍

That old man had good reasons to be upset about the prophets not supporting Old Age Assistance. When I converted as a teen, I had no idea that the church had fought against Social Security and similar government programs to take care of the elderly. Now that I'm in my sixties and have disabilities, I can certainly understand the need for that "Old Age Assistance". Bishops often don't extend help (or enough help) and grown children usually can't afford to take care of your needs. The Quorum of the 12 and the "prophet" and his counselors usually came from very well off families and were salaried, anyway. They didn't seem to have much regard for their "common" members. They started Church Welfare only to keep people from going to the government for assistance, and as an excuse to fight off Social Security.

This is a great video. In 2017 I was taking courses from 2 women Missionaries and in February I ended the courses. I was told to read different chapters of the Book of Mormon and during the day and night pray to see if God said that the Church of Jesus Christ and the Book of Mormon was true. I didn't get an answer.

@14:10 what you said about how they can even control how you vote. I remember back a few years before I left the church when the Bishop was telling us during sacrament meeting that “your vote in the upcoming election is still your vote, we should all follow after what the prophet and the general authorities has said at present and in the past “. My son and daughter in-law since leaving the church have found out the Utah general assembly sends all bills to church headquarters prior to they go up for a vote on the House floor, then the church has to give their approval before it becomes law

@fifthgencanuck8663

4 жыл бұрын

John Morris wow! Nobody complains about the lack of separation between church and state?!?! I live in Canada and it’s inconceivable to me that can happen in the US!!! Crazy!!!

Omg did you visit church again?! I’d love to hear about that!!!

I am an atheist raised Christian who has lived in the northern SLC area now for two years. There are many similarities between the evangelical crowd and the LDS folks. One such is their belief that, despite having the "truth", they will shield/protect themselves from being challenged to think/reason. I was always of the persuasion that if you truly believe you hold the truth, it should withstand all scrutiny and as such was very open to other opinions/viewpoints. I changed my beliefs after college and reading much about the topic. The fact that your poll was removed simply for causing people to think reminds me very much the Christian organizations of my childhood. Good luck to you and your husband. I've very interested to see where your journey leads you.

Thank you for your video!!! I just found your video tonight & I'm glad you are not a mormon anymore. I'm not mormon but a Christian for 45yrs. I never even a met a mormon until I moved to SLC, Utah 10yrs ago. I was shocked (& still am), of what they believed in. It's such a shame that some of them are brain washed & naive. One mormon lady told me that my bible is a "book of fairy tales"!!! I'm glad that the members are leaving this cult. I do have one mormon lady friend... I've been sometimes saying things to her gently about her religion. Recently, she made a comment that her church was a denomination of Christianity & I said that your religion believes a different Jesus. She didn't say anything after that... I thought she might say "What do mean?" Maybe she will think about that & ask me later. Please give me some ideas Lex to talk to her about her man-made religion~ Thanks🙂

WoW ! That needed to be said. He that hath ears to hear let him hear.

@Dreammaster695

4 жыл бұрын

Rex Mobley thank you for saying what needed to be said! It’s still real to me dammit!!

0:22 I watch videos with the captions on, and just had to point out that at this moment of your video, while you clearly said you will go back to listen to the sacrament meeting, the captions read 'sacrum eating'. Sorry, my anatomy-loving brain just thought that was super funny.

FOLLOW THE PROPHET, FOLLOW THE PROPHET, FOLLOW THE PROPHET DON'T GO ASTRAY FOLLOW THE PROPHET, FOLLOW THE PROPHET, FOLLOW THE PROPHET HE KNOWS THE WAY! Textbook brainwashing.

Jesus Asked us To Seek HIM and HIS Righteousness. Jesus Never Ask us to seek a man.

@satanpuncher06

4 жыл бұрын

kathleen Wharton but he DID tell you not to wash your hands.....probably not the best source of advice either.

@fifthgencanuck8663

4 жыл бұрын

Benjamin, you lost me, are you saying the Prophet is against hand washing or Jesus was? Lol

@all4jesus594

4 жыл бұрын

Jerimiah 17.5 Cursed is the man that trusts in man, that makes flesh his arm, whose heart departs from the Lord. Mormonism is a total reflection of this. FRAUD. Please research. Utlm.org

@danielmoore4024

4 жыл бұрын

@@all4jesus594 Why are you foolish enough to trust liars like apostate Exmo Lex here? D&Cs 130:14-16 14 I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man, when I heard a voice repeat the following: 15 Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble me no more on this matter. 16 I was left thus, without being able to decide whether this coming referred to the beginning of the millennium or to some previous appearing, or whether I should die and thus see his face. Verse 16, "without being able to decide" Joseph Smith never prophesied the Second Coming, he did teach no one will know when the Second Coming is; D&Cs 49:6-7 6 And they have done unto the Son of Man even as they listed; and he has taken his power on the right hand of his glory, and now reigneth in the heavens, and will reign till he descends on the earth to put all enemies under his feet, which time is nigh at hand- 7 I, the Lord God, have spoken it; but the hour and the day no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor shall they know until he comes. Remember D&Cs 121:34-35; 39-40 34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen? 35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson- 39 We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion. 40 Hence many are called, but few are chosen. Apostates come to desire the honor of man and unrighteous dominionship over others, Exmo Lex and other apostates take unrighteous dominionship over the critics for the honor of man. Don't be foolish and just repeat what apostates have to say, they pull quotes and sentences out of whole paragraphs not willing to share the rest with you. If you know the truth why do you all have to lie?

I remember our YW/YM leaders doing a whole lesson series based on this talk when I was a beehive and winding us up through this faux Socratic method question and answer session where they dragged us through a bunch of other talks and some scripture chase to confirm and reinforce every single point. Apparently someone had been questioning a little too loudly…and some of us left the room questioning a lot more, just quietly.

We must not forget about 1 of the covenants made in the temple: the law of obedience. Maybe that's why your poll was so high on the follow the prophet no matter what option. If they said no, they'd be breaking their covenants with the church

@all4jesus594

4 жыл бұрын

It really bothered me that those Covenants in the Temple were to The Church rather than to God.😥😟 Huge red flag.

I only see a bounch of people comments living in darkness I’m so sad for them and you Exmo lex.

@jonjahr3403

3 жыл бұрын

Then why the hell are you here?

This is the scariest, most "brain-washed" cultish element of LDS. I didn't know about this as I'm non-Mormon, so thanks. I really enjoy your videos. Even though I have no practical use for them, you are abstractly interesting.

Hey ExMo Lex! Great video research and content! I agree a large percentage Mormons in would do what he says unquestionably. I hope they never go full Heaven’s Gate. Like you said, the most important thing is to use your brain and decide for yourself. PS: I would love to see more of your perspective on how you would change the Young Women’s program and Relief Society.

@kennethd.9436

4 жыл бұрын

Quick comment: questioning ward members, should be done delicately or they may shut down. One good question may be: What is the best thing and worst thing about this church/organization?

@ExmoLex

4 жыл бұрын

Just Deadpool I r got the YW and RS programs on my list to talk about, I just have so many things I want to discuss so it might be awhile! And great idea on the talking to church members 👍

@AndreS_-df2nw

4 жыл бұрын

Too much $$$ involved to go heavensgate. Cannot interrupt that cashflow to the top.

I too have highly questioned the President of the church. I think in a different Vid you’ve talked about contradiction I see it on a regular bases with Nelson. Now I’m a convert that’s what I’m Called so I “don’t always know what I’m talking about”. I do like your view points and how your putting this info out here.

Answer: Yes

I have been "out" for 23 years. Today I can't imagine handing my agency over to a man I've never met. My relationship with Jesus would forbid such an arrangement.

@satanpuncher06

4 жыл бұрын

Ken Olson I think the irony of that statement is pretty great.

@all4jesus594

4 жыл бұрын

Ken Olson, l am in complete agreement. The LDS so called prophets are FRAUDULENT. I do NOT FEAR THEM.

@catsmeow1630

4 жыл бұрын

Ken Olson 😆🤣😂😆🤣😆😂😳🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

That's one of the reasons why left the mormon Organisation again. It shocks me each time when I see how blindly Mormons trust their leaders. This is a big sign of a cult to me.

Is that artwork hanging in your garage?! :)

From the Prophet Wilford Woodruff's writings, "Waiting for World's End: The Diaries of The Prophet Wilford Woodruff p. 305). “President Brigham Young shared with me one of his most spiritual prophetic moments with the Prophet Joseph Smith in 1838. Smith gave the revelation to Brother Brigham that the garden of Eden was in Jackson County, Missouri, and when Adam was driven out of the garden of Eden, he went about 40 miles to the place which we named “Adam- Ondi- Ahman,” & there built an altar of stone & offered sacrifice. That Altar remains to this day. I saw it with my very own eyes just as Adam left it as did many others, & through all the revolutions of the world that Altar had not been disturbed. The prophet also revealed that when the City of Enoch fled & was translated it was where the Gulf of Mexico now is. It left that gulf a body of water. 'This is the valley of God in which Adam blessed his children,' he said, 'and upon this very altar Adam himself offered up sacrifices to Jehovah....we will lay out a city which shall be called Adam-ondi-Ahman. Here Adam, the Ancient of Days, shall come to visit his people.'" HOWEVER, a few years later, in 1851, the Prophet Joseph Smith said the following “And, I, the Lord God caused a river to go out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted and became into four heads. . .. And the name of the second river was called Gihon; the same that compasseth the whole land of ETHIOPIA. And the name of the third river was Hiddekel; that which goeth toward the east of ASSYRIA. And the fourth river was the EUPHRATES. (1851 Pearl of Great Price, Moses 3:10, 13-14)

I was told that If you follow the prophet and he is wrong, YOU WILL STILL BE BLESSED! That was from the local LDS stake patriarch. Obviously not particularly good advice.

@ExmoLex

4 жыл бұрын

I heard this too. 😔

@connormorgan6884

Жыл бұрын

I heard that one as well. I doubt God is going to bless me for doing something wrong.

@nickgcbond

Жыл бұрын

@@connormorgan6884LDS prophets don't have a good track record of being right about much. I told the stake Patriarch that if you follow the prophet and he is wrong, then you are even more stupid than the prophet. lol

What is that wonderful painting over your shoulder out the window? Do I see it has a ribbon on it? It won a prize! I can barely see it, but the colors are tag on, and I love it already. You do an engaging channel, it's stone cold genuine, set off by your cheery charm. I'm kinda hooked!

@ExmoLex

4 жыл бұрын

My husband did that painting in high school and it did win an award! (: Thank you!

You’d think that the prophet walks in water based on how Mormons revere the man. He doesn’t. He’s supposed to be the holiest man alive but he follows the same commandments as everyone else. So why is this old old guy so damn special?

Watching this episode with you hoping to get 1000 subscribers .mission accomplished

@ExmoLex

3 жыл бұрын

So crazy how much has changed since then! ♥️

You have terrific hair.

My take...current LDS will trust the current leader without question but dismiss past leaders if it doesn’t agree with their current doctrine etc. All one has to do is read the Journal of Discourses and take a deep breath.

Demanded obedience to the current Prophet is scary, and a cult tactic. How many would obey the kool aid revelation if one came down?

I was unaware you even had a channel.

While part of the reason he put in so many obvious points was probably to get to 14, part of the reason was almost certainly to put in some easy-to-agree-with points so that the other ones, which may not be taken so easily by some members of the church or by people outside the church, are also easier to agree with. It's this idea of: "Some of it is obviously right so all of it must be right." In addition, if I were making this speech and genuinely agreed with what I was saying, an easy way to build out arguments is to start in a place where everyone agrees and build from there. Putting in some of these more obvious points (especially since some or all of these points do seem to build off one another) is a pretty decent example of that. Of course, I'm not and never have been a Mormon, so I could be missing quite a bit of context here. This is just my take as a person who is interested in political science and has taken a few Enish classes where I needed to write argumentative papers, and also as a person that has a few spicier opinions on things like gender and sexuality (as a queer person studying queerness academically) that those with both no education and no experience in the topic often disagree with.

Wow....just wow.

Great palet cleanser after being with my believing family over general conference weekend I listened to some of it just to see the crap they would say

I don’t remember ever being taught that prophets are infallible. However, if they aren’t, then it leads to all the problems we have here, so much that their prophetic calling seems to go out the window. One would be justified in concluding that in matters of spirituality and/or Church governance, the prophet(s) must be infallible, otherwise it allows for the possibility that the Church isn’t directed by God as much as they say it is. Does that make sense?

No matter what "the Church" says or doesn't say, does or doesn't do . . . there will always be some who will criticize and never be happy. And, there will always be plenty of members to jump up and deny it, rationalize it, or simply ignore it.

You're a dime. I enjoy your smile!

Yeah I didn't really like the profit even as a concept when I heard of it. 🤔 I though oh no now we have someone who can stop people from thinking for themselves. 🤦

The first thing I did with my 5 children is teach them to find out for themselves and ask questions. The youngest you can be at baptism is sge 8 so it seems obvious to me they need to be accountable for their actions. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints is still being restored. The gathering of the house of Israel is happening on both sides of the veil. I'm so excited for the Second coming of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

@ExmoLex

4 жыл бұрын

So I’m assuming you disagree with President Benson then?

@daneastill2058

2 жыл бұрын

That is exactly right the church will continue onward there will always be a prophet on the earth whether u agree with him or not is up to you I for one am glad we have someone who tells it like it is and doesn't make excuses and does it with absolute and complete love

I'm a mormon even now. I was taught from when I was a child I'm now 59. What ever came for salt lake prophet on down, even local local leadership, to always take things to the god in pray for my own personal confermation. If something doesn't seem correct at one level take it up to the next level. I don't take anyone word on anything until they have earned my respect or loyalty. However clearly I'm not the avg. mormon I believe the god wants honest sincerely humble questioning over blind obedience. I don't have faith in a man at any level, I have faith in God

@ExmoLex

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I assume you disagree with President Benson then? You believe members should pray to get confirmation if what the prophet says is true?

@Farron1960

4 жыл бұрын

@@ExmoLex on little issues like dropping the Boy Scouts, even small verbiage changes in the temple, the new home teaching ministering, all they did was change the name the meat of the program hasn't changed so just do it. Major issues such as doctrinal changes, leadership changes, bigger things oh get a confirmation. And even at that I'm not blindly flowing anyone.

@satanpuncher06

4 жыл бұрын

Farron1960 I think the key issue with you methodology is the presupposition that there actually is a God up there who can give you this info. I’d be willing to bet that he always agrees with whatever you already believe to be right / wrong.

@Farron1960

4 жыл бұрын

@@satanpuncher06 yes you got to believe there's a God Worth praying too

Lexi, what is your opinion on the way that all the people who speak in conference use the same cadence, inflection and tone etc. it’s like the same person writes all the talks and then tells them exactly how to read it. I’m sure that over the years it’s just become the norm like anything else. “This is just how you speak to the whole church” kind of thing. This was one of things (weird as it is) that really made me question. I don’t get the feeling that the general authorities delivering words they believe in.

@ExmoLex

4 жыл бұрын

I see what you mean, it comes across a bit creepy on the other side of the fence. I had a stake president for awhile that spoke the exact same way and we all joked he would be an apostle someday (and eventually he was, as a member of the 70). I think it’s partly because with time, everyone starts to develop that over the years like you said. Another point is that it evokes what members would define as “the spirit,” and can even do the same to the person talking. Continuing to do it over a member’s lifetime engrains that into their subconscious.

@StephRivera

4 жыл бұрын

There is a good video about eyring crying seemingly on command. I think mormon think made it.

All parents should take responsibility for the children they bring into this world and teach them to think for themselves and to always be suspicious of anyone who professes to have a direct connection to God and has been called by God to minister and /or have authority over God's Children.

I know the LDS doesn't put much stock in the Bible itself but in the Bible there is a sure fire way of testing Prophets and if they are indeed speaking for God and it also says if 1 prediction does not come to pass they are to be accursed and they are not of God boom JS not of God .

“Re-examine all you have been told in school or church or in any book, and dismiss whatever insults your own soul; and your very flesh shall be a great poem, and have the richest fluency, not only in its words, but in the silent lines of its lips and face, and between the lashes of your eyes, and in every motion and every joint in your bones” - Walt Whitman

Leaders Speak, Thinking is Done - Mormon Quotes Improvement Era, June 1945; “When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done. When they propose a plan-it is God’s plan. When they point the way, there is no other which is safe. When they give direction, it should mark the end of controversy. God works in no other way. To think otherwise, without immediate repentance, may cost one his faith, may destroy his testimony, and leave him a stranger to the kingdom of God.”

I'm an evangelical, charismatic Christian who believes in the Trinity of God and the Bible as the only Word of God. Although I still believe that local churches should have leadership (elders) and that leadership should be respected, we clearly teach that any advice given to you for your life, should be tested by the Word of God. The Word of God remains the fixed standard. We teach that the gifts of the Holy Spirit is still active today, meaning someone can have the ability to prophesy over your life or give you a word of knowledge with the sole purpose of edifying you. Even this has to be tested in the Word, because we realize that people can sometimes speak into your life with an agenda of their own and not that of God. We teach that Holy Spirit will never contradict the Word of God.

I agree that following anyone blindly is dangerous. Putting so much belief in what one person says...it's scary and opens people up that trust being abused; as you point out with the cults that have conned their members into killing themselves (and others). As someone raised Christian (I consider myself agnostic now), I don't understand why more people don't have issue with a man putting his words over those of Jesus in the scriptures. It's pure idolatry. The Jesus I grew up learning about would fIip some serious tables over that, he'd be pissed! The way things are structured in mormonism should make people wonder, and if they're told not to think for themselves (even on only certain issues that the "prophet" dictated) it should send up red flags*, especially about temptation by a man away from the word of God...isn't that just what the Bible warns about when it teaches about following false prophets etc. And how clever of "Satan" would it be if the mormon church was actually his doing and was his way of getting people to mindlessly follow, while giving him 10+% of their earnings to make him rich lol. I mean, what other reason is there to disparage other religions as being false etc. (I can't help picturing the guy from Lucifer, the TV show, feeling smug over it and claiming it as some of his best work). I also think it's hilarious & so convenient that being the prophet only really seems to count while you're alive (or the first guy who said the prophet is the all important dude), so the next guy can pull the "god changed his mind and now XYZ." Much cult, so wow! I wondered, do you think each one actually believes he _is_ a real prophet & thinks he does speak for god/god speaks through him? If not, then do you think the next tier down think he is, or are they all just in it for the money at that point and they all know it's all one big scam? I'm just wondering if & at what level people are not drinking the kool-aid and just laughing at those that still are. How/when is the next prophet decided? If your question on that group made just one person question the problem with blind faith then you did a good thing. 👍 [*though I guess the problem with indoctrination of generation after generation is that it's just normal to them, and for the newbies that stick around (as with most cults I expect, and also the reason why they're targeted in the first place) is because they're looking for someone to tell them how to live their lives (because they fucked up and don't know how to fix it; are afraid to fuck up if left to their own decisions); are previous abuse victims who are vulnerable to being taken advantage of again; are super gullible; or, as is the case with gangs, because they want to belong somewhere _so much_ , to feel loved and accepted, to the point that they'll overlook any negatives/red flags.]

I have realized how much it doesn't make sense when they say "don't listen to the past prophets. Listen to the living ones." Yet they still take quotes from Hinckley and Monson's talks....sooo....aren't they just doing exactly what they're not supposed to do?

Do they? Yes, from my perspective. But then my current belief is that there's never been any such thing as a prophet. It's just some guy.

What would you do if you was the prophet?

Nauhum says the 99 others was roung and the king did fall in battle

We need more snark from ex mormon women. Ex mormon men get a free pass to snark all they want, but we exmo women are still conditioned to be "nice" No one would blink twice if this amount of sarcasm came from mr atheist, for example. 😁 I love your snark and hope to see more of it in the future.

@ExmoLex

4 жыл бұрын

I love Jimmy! ♥️ He is a lot snarkier than me 😂 Thank you for watching!

Hoses and the book of songs of Solomon wrote in the book of truth will you be able to see the truth of the lord

The living oracles are the most dangerous aspect of ANY cultic group. The living prophet (oracle) is a concept that must be rejected.

Hello my name is Steve, i just watched one of your videos just now and it was very interesting in what you spoke about, about Joseph Smith and believing in what a living prophet says is to be true. Joseph Smith was a false prophet,things that he predicted did not come to pass. I do not beleive what these so call prophets say today. The word of God tells us to beware of false prophets out in the world. beleive no one. THe word of God says in the book of Romans:3:4 let God be true and man a lier. Thank,you,so much for doing what you are doing,keep up the good work.

But what if you are really need a drink and the cool aid is all you have lol

I guess the prophet died on the cross for the sins of the world including there sins ... even though Christ Jesus was the ONLY God who became man who was WITHOUT sin!? Come on people!!

I vote no I would not. As a mormon I was taught to get my own conformation from Lord by way of the Holy Ghost, with and all leadership and their decisions. blindly following any one is crazy.

...dear Lex, first of all, thank you for your videos. I wasn't raised in any faith and I find that learning about many religious beliefes is important for anyone, as we are probably all driven by the same wish for security and justice. Your channel it's like a breath of fresh air and I like your style, filming from the car seat, with spontaneity, Also congrats on 1000+ subscribers! :) I was wondering if you can talk about one very popular Mormon KZread channel and/or the idea behind it: that Mormon women must get married, have a lot of children and dedicate all their energy to sustaining every activities of family and church without holding back or questioning if they even want to have all those children in the first place... Specifically have you evern see Jordan Page channel? She appears, at least to me, as TBM as you can be, mother of 7 and counting, raising this huge family in LDS faith. Her videos are growing in popularity but it seem like a mistery to me how such a life is even possible: Jordan grows her own business, despite being constantly pregnant and giving birth, spends time for extra curricular activities her children attend, live in a seemingly beautiful home and find hours for church meetings and all the rest of that. From the outside one thinks that any regular person would be driven insane by all those committments and stress of being the "perfect mormon mother/wife/church member/...." And what worries me the most is that she is taken as an example from other women who think they should "do it all" too! Could you share your vision on the Page family or in general on what's expected by women living in the mormon society? is there freedom and choic or is there stress, perfectionism and drama behind closed doors?

Make up some posters and put them on light poles close to the meeting house... “JOSEPH LIED!!!”

@danielmoore4024

4 жыл бұрын

John Morris, Emxo Lex just lied! Why are you foolish enough to trust liars like apostate Exmo Lex here? D&Cs 130:14-16 14 I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man, when I heard a voice repeat the following: 15 Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble me no more on this matter. 16 I was left thus, without being able to decide whether this coming referred to the beginning of the millennium or to some previous appearing, or whether I should die and thus see his face. Verse 16, "without being able to decide" Joseph Smith never prophesied the Second Coming, he did teach no one will know when the Second Coming is; D&Cs 49:6-7 6 And they have done unto the Son of Man even as they listed; and he has taken his power on the right hand of his glory, and now reigneth in the heavens, and will reign till he descends on the earth to put all enemies under his feet, which time is nigh at hand- 7 I, the Lord God, have spoken it; but the hour and the day no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor shall they know until he comes. Remember D&Cs 121:34-35; 39-40 34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen? 35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson- 39 We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion. 40 Hence many are called, but few are chosen. Apostates come to desire the honor of man and unrighteous dominionship over others, Exmo Lex and other apostates take unrighteous dominionship over the critics for the honor of man. Don't be foolish and just repeat what apostates have to say, they pull quotes and sentences out of whole paragraphs not willing to share the rest with you.

Yes, they trust too much.

Those yeses include killing someone. Nephi.

@danielmoore4024

4 жыл бұрын

And Moses murdered according to the Bible, what's the difference?

@hallofmaat244

4 жыл бұрын

@@danielmoore4024 Nothing; the Bible is worse than the book of mormon

What the prophet says comes from god so why would you not trust him ?

Probably how Mountain Meadows came to happen…

This reminds me of 1984.

Trusting the prophet is not Mormon rule, but the Gospel. Now I can see why you are no longer an LDS. It’s simply that you’re misunderstood. Not only you, but also all of other faiths who don’t have unity among themselves. First, the apostle and prophets are guided by the spirit of Christ to help us be matured and 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; (Ephesians 4. you can read vs 11 to 13 if you want) Based on the Bible, not the Book of Mormon. I can understand the importance of believing the word of God through the apostles and prophets. You will not find the truth from God without them. Let’s read what the Bible says about it: With all do respects, I hope that you are mature enough and willing to read following scriptures: 7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.(Amos 3) 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. ( Matthew 7) 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.(2 Peter 1) 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;(Ephesians 3) It seems like you don’t agree with the teaching in Mormonism. It’s okay, you are entitled to your own opinions, it’s your free agency given to anyone. After all, this is not the gospel of Joseph Smith nor Mormons. This is the Gospel of Jesus Christ like what Apostle Paul said to Galatians : 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. 11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.(Galatians 1) The Church without apostles and Prophets is simply “a church of man-made church” I just want to make it clear, it is written in Ephesians 2 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; The Church of Jesus Christ of Early-day Saints. Do you find the same church in the Latter Day other than “ Mormon Church” (as you’ve called it)?

If we accept that the leaders of the church have the gift of prophecy, then we have to accept that as a prophet of the Lord it doesn’t matter if the prophet states things as a "Declaration of Doctrine" or a "Revelation" from Heavenly Father. I find it difficult to accept that God would give a prophet of the Lord erroneous thinking in ANY way that would mislead people from the truth of the gospel? If President Nelson today says something at General Conference the people accept it as truth. It isn't necessary that he "qualify" whether something he says is revelation or doctrine or his opinions. A true prophet of God will not say anything that is untrue. ANYTHING! The members today accept that President Nelson is led by God to speak the truth no matter what he says, when he says it, where he says it, or how he says it. The LDS member shouldn’t have to "overthink" or "over analyze" statements by prophets to determine what is true and what is not. A prophet of the Lord may not be saying each time he speaks that his words come directly from Heavenly Father, but we shouldn't have to make excuses to defend a prophet whether he be dead or alive. You take Brigham Young’s comments and beliefs about his Adam/God theory for example. Young said, “"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men have written and spoken - He is our FATHER and our GOD, and the only God with whom WE have to do. Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it, and will know it sooner or later!" (Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 1, p. 51). Today the church repudiates this and doesn’t teach it anymore.

13:16 haha