Yes, you need two. One as a backup for when you drop the first one.

@maynardcrow6447

3 жыл бұрын

What's really funny is he did end up dropping one of these like a year after this video damaging some of the memory channels. It still works except like 2 mem channels.

@viktorfors3927

2 жыл бұрын

Linus is typing....

@annonymousghostdetector8425

2 жыл бұрын

If you drop the first one , xD I can't stop laughing

@somecuntxxx

2 жыл бұрын

🔥🔥🔥

0:25 56 CORES IN 1 SYSTEM!? 2019 - 64 CORES IN 1 CPU!?

@nathanhamman418

4 жыл бұрын

2023 - 64 cores in your laptop

@JimTheKid

4 жыл бұрын

Nathan Hamman mid 2023 128 cores in a potato

@danielkaiser8343

4 жыл бұрын

2020 128 cores in one system

@danielkaiser8343

4 жыл бұрын

More like 2030

@stepbruv8780

4 жыл бұрын

@@danielkaiser8343 bruh Amphere got 80 core in 2020

2018 Intel - 28 cores! 2019 AMD - Hold my infinity fabric...

@realburn6845

3 жыл бұрын

But I'll never use AMD for virtualization....

Intel 2018: 56 cores in one system AMD 2019: Hold my beer

@SauvikRoy

4 жыл бұрын

Nvidia: Hold my beer instead!

@chrisding1976

4 жыл бұрын

Sauvik Roy nvidia makes cpus?

@SauvikRoy

4 жыл бұрын

@@chrisding1976 What is but a GPU, array of tiny CPUs!

@uzernaim1648

3 жыл бұрын

@@SauvikRoy you're technically correct

@thedarkmage7373

3 жыл бұрын

@@uzernaim1648 That's the best kind of correct.

I just realized that one of these 28 Core Xeons costs more (10000€) than two of the highest tier Epyc 32 Core processors plus a dual socket motherboard(9300€), wow these surely give great margins for Intel.

@drewsebastino2889

6 жыл бұрын

Der Bewohner When something is the best, even by such a small amount that it makes practically no difference, companies can afford to overcharge greatly because people will still buy it.

@LiLBitsDK

6 жыл бұрын

they aren't the best anymore though, but they are the most expensive

@JABelms

6 жыл бұрын

Jesper Andersen Xeon Plats are the fastest CPUs out there now (if I remember right Platinums broke Cinebench R15 and made it obsolete). But they are also absurdly priced. The 24C for $5K.....

@iMadrid11

6 жыл бұрын

xZiddel If your an enterprise buyer planing to build servers for a company data center. Where costs and power efficiency is a big issue. Why pay more for the best Intel 28 cores when the AMD 32 cores can deliver the same equivalent level of performance?

@JABelms

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Bautista if I remember right 28 Xeon Platinums are faster than 32C EPYCs. For 2 vs 2 CPU scenario the 8180 combo has a R15 score of 8.3K cb while 64C EPYC is under 7K cb. But that isn't the whole story of the price though, server CPUs are different from desktop. If I remember right intel Platinums are meant to run on alternative software instead of the very expensive yearly server software. Server software, like LS-Dyna costs like $6,000 per year to use...and a company spends tens of thousands of dollars yearly for that type of software even for old processor like Opterons and 5 year old Xeons...this CPU can actually save you money.

Linus: "After I t.." Me: *skips 20 seconds immediately*

@92kosta

6 жыл бұрын

*Linus

@SunnyShuklathedoctor

6 жыл бұрын

Linux sure is proud.

@Cube8

6 жыл бұрын

At 9:35 Linus: "Speaking of services..." Me: *stops video*

@The_Oddball

4 жыл бұрын

Don't mind doing this myself, as I pay for floatplane :P

@Aranimda

4 жыл бұрын

1:40

So glad you didn't pull your pants down again.

@allenqueen

6 жыл бұрын

You mean you are DEVASTATED ?

@nuku7588

6 жыл бұрын

Lol

@mikejameson7678

6 жыл бұрын

Wait, he did that? Why?

@9308323

6 жыл бұрын

Mike Jameson Pants sponsorship.

@Mareepu

5 жыл бұрын

*disappointed

I love how their merch store pops up when Linus says "cashe" lol 5:10

@catbertsis

5 жыл бұрын

dimitris aspetakis w

@PLK123

4 жыл бұрын

Cash

Woah, a 28 core Xeon, Linus?!? But is it 5GHz?

@badsyntax173

6 жыл бұрын

Lazy Yes, if you refrigerated it

@nexusxe

6 жыл бұрын

badSyntax your name haunts me

@markr9293

6 жыл бұрын

Only in Intel's press releases er I mean imagination.

@maincharacter2677

6 жыл бұрын

XXXDEADTACION your name haunts me

@jcap168

6 жыл бұрын

to soon

Dual-socket CPUs are great because you'll find them on eBay in 3-6 years and save hundreds of dollars on the same number of threads compared to new, consumer-grade parts.

@DavionSobek

6 жыл бұрын

Indeed. I got myself a pair of 2680 v2s for 550 CAD last October, threw them into a z620, and could not be happier. Saving over a thousand dollars compared a similarly performing TR 1920x system.The single threaded performance (compared to a 5930k) leaves some to be desired but the performance in Zbrush and Maya has been great so far.

@TheFlatronify

6 жыл бұрын

E5 1650v2 here @4.2 GHz, a beast at ~130$ US for the CPU and 150$ US for a quad channel ECC supporting motherboard. Performs well in all kinds of games for a fraction of the price for new CPUs. But shhhss don't spread the word too much or prices will rise :D

@dualcpufetishist7265

6 жыл бұрын

Nothing to add :)

@TheFlatronify

6 жыл бұрын

- username checks out.

@NaviYT

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct 3 years later

gatta admit most of what you talked about went right over my head but that 6:58 "look closelier" phrase brought it right back down to my level.

I have dual Xeons in my computer I pieced together for around $400. Dual X5650 cpus with 6 cores/12 threads each gets me to over 1300 in Cinebench without an overclock. These cpus were only $16 each on ebay! Made in 2011 but it holds up pretty damn good in 2018.

@Someone7089

6 жыл бұрын

I've got a couple L5640s. Basically a slightly lower frequency version of the X5650, similar price and uses less power. I love the old server hardware you can get second-hand.

@dalindiaz3881

5 жыл бұрын

Same here, on a Dell Precision 690 that was a scrap item from a local tech company. Plays all major titles full quality (Crysis included) at 1080p@60fps. Love this beast, wish i knew more about upgrading the CPU & ram.

@benruss4130

5 жыл бұрын

im rocking a precision M6700 that i picked up for 300 bucks last week. 32gb of ram, i7 3940mx overclocked to 4.1 ghz, and a k5100m. Smokes most modern "gaming" laptops and has better build quality.

@abubakrakram6208

5 жыл бұрын

ben russ While I'm glad that you got such a great machine for a low cost, you truly don't know much about modern gaming laptops. They've had full, desktop grade GPUs ever since the release of Pascal. This makes them more potent then most Maxwell based gaming *desktops.*

@benruss4130

5 жыл бұрын

While they DID remove the "m" from the name of the 1000 series mobile GPUs, and even used the same core in SOME cases, do not mistake a mobile 1000 for a desktop 1000 series. They are still under-clocked, and under-performing when compared to their desktop brothers and that is BEFORE you run into thermal throttling issues with the laptop(s) and unless you get a behemoth you WILL have thermal throttling with the 1070 and 1080 (mobile versions) My comment regarding the fact that my laptop will smoke most modern "gaming" laptops was supposed to emphasize the quotes. I know that Pascal was a HUGE improvement for mobile gaming, but most so called "gaming" laptops will have a 1050 AT BEST.

You got something mixed up. Core i9 are basically Xeons without ECC.

@worldhello1234

6 жыл бұрын

Just like your ass is basically the playground for a gay club. :D

@FictualKyle

6 жыл бұрын

Red Phoenix ur mother is the playground of crabs boi

@Aereto

6 жыл бұрын

And that is why I am getting Threadripper. In the event I end up needing ECC, I don't have to make a new build for that.

@timramich

6 жыл бұрын

Everything industrial is expensive. Companies need it, so they have to pay it. It's just how the world works.

@nicholaschan2982

6 жыл бұрын

MazeFrame why does the average consumer even need ecc?

"Keeping the variables to a minimum" Excluding the fact that one has a bit more RAM than the other.. 😂 32 GB vs 192 GB

@kuhhnt

6 жыл бұрын

And totally ignoring the huge clock speed of the i9 over the platinum 8180. Right? It’s tit for tat. But. Personally. If they’d compared dual xeon gold 6154 CPUs with the i9, I think the story would be a bit closer to realistic.

@lolagepwned

6 жыл бұрын

Naaah, everyone knows that clockspeed doesn't matter... right? But yeah, they probably should have at least lowered the clocks of the i9 or something along those lines

@kuhhnt

6 жыл бұрын

TinkerTavern check out the specs of the Gold 6154 CPUs. They’re glorious. A perfect middle ground. And all those PCI-e lanes… That’s what I miss about dual Xeon workstations. Ate up adobe suites, all the layering, importing and exporting. Compared to my i7-8700k w/64gb ram and a Titan Xp, honestly, there seems to be no real difference in performance over my old dual hex core Xeon system with 48gb ram, running at 2.93Ghz.. even back when I got my first dual core Pentium 4 back in the early 2000’s. I had a quad P3 server running 4 933mhz slot 1 type CPUs I think it was, and even then, the old quad rig demolished the brand new p4.

@ander1482

6 жыл бұрын

I think 32gb is enough for a blender scene

@lolagepwned

6 жыл бұрын

Ander Losa Maybe so, but it's not exactly impossible to remove the extra RAM in the other one, so they both have 32GB And if it's going to cause variables from the number of channels, just use 2*16 or 4*8 for both, so they're in dual or quad channel

I find that the architecture about of this is actually very fascinating. Looking forward to other dives into stuff like this.

Hey Linus and crew. So I watched some older videos, like where you watercooled all your work stations at the old place, and you had an issue with sediment and cleaning. So, we figured a way to clean our watercooling systems with ease, and it's safe to ANY plastic (including pvc), rubber and metal fittings. What inspired me is I own a bar, and we always had tap cleaners to come clean our lines. And the kid who did it said he cleaned his pc with the same solvent as they use for cleaning the tap lines. So, I invested in a tap cleaning system. All you have to do is manually clean the fittings with the solvent, and take off any pumps so the solvent can be circulated with the pump the cleaning system comes with. The solvent can burn hands but is safe for the plastic. The stuff I use is blue. The blue stuff is the best. Might wanna check it out if you see this, it works awesome and gets rid of all hard water stains, sediment build up and is safe on all blocks, lines and fittings.

This was a good start for server topic. I'd love love love to see more videos regarding servers. I professionally work with them and Im really interested in enterprise news and new enterprise tech or technology. It's probably a smaller group of people than mainstream notebooks though.. But still I'd love to see more of servers

Does Austin Evans matter in 2018? Oh wait... Wrong channel

@nescin3827

6 жыл бұрын

Don't get it.

@rl_aaaa

6 жыл бұрын

???

@geminitheavali5018

6 жыл бұрын

I still like Austin Evans as much as other tech youtubers.

@newlifetrucking8

6 жыл бұрын

Hey guys!!!!😍 this is Austin......🤣😂🤣😂🤣

@SunnyShuklathedoctor

6 жыл бұрын

Which canal?

Loved this video, there's so much information i'll have to come back later for a second watch!

Thanks for you Videos. I'm an old Fortran 77 Programmer, boy, things have changed!

Waiting for the 2990x to come by and destroy this kind of stuff.

@MazeFrame

6 жыл бұрын

Or the current Epyc generation.

@ElZamo92

6 жыл бұрын

Matthewv1998 EPYC already destroys Xeons

@MazeFrame

6 жыл бұрын

@ElZamo92 The IO on Epyc is serious business!

@BottomOfTheDumpsterFire

6 жыл бұрын

AMD got its groove back and is countering Intel with "lol more cores".

@nickg4135

6 жыл бұрын

ecks dee the waiting meme. i'll wait until 2999 when the 9999999999k will come out, it'll be so much better than a 8700k

The question everyone is wondering... "Did Linus drop it?"

@iielysiumx5811

4 жыл бұрын

yes, yes he did, he dropped an 8180 and broke 2 of the memory channels

@itsmejacobw

4 жыл бұрын

yes.

@sjoec3329

4 жыл бұрын

The real question is. ...... This comment was from a year ago.. But then two random dudes was replying to this recently

@itsmejacobw

4 жыл бұрын

super joechew because youtube recommended it, this was the top comment and we replied to it

@the-lag-gamerita5446

3 жыл бұрын

@@sjoec3329 don't mind me,just reminding OP of this comment

One good reason to go with dual cpu, longevity. Almost 4 years ago I built my current workstation (2400$) and it is still more capable than any current single cpu computer I have used, especially when it comes to multi tasking. I can be rendering in Maya while I am creating a Camtasia video critique in Photoshop and nothing slows down. Every few years, upgrade the graphics card and compute away.

U are just amazing ! Your style of showing sponsers especially..

I just want dual EPYC because it's crazy and VMs. :-D Edit: Please stop using made up words like "closelyer".

@worldhello1234

6 жыл бұрын

Every word is made up.

@StannyObelisk

6 жыл бұрын

Red Phoenix wooosh

@gudenau

6 жыл бұрын

RyTrapp0 I do browse that site for fun.

You should do an 8 gamers 1 cpu on the 32 core threadripper some day, or if that doesnt work. A 4 gamers 1 cpu

"Because I love high-end, super expensive tech tools" He finally admitted to reviewing expensive crap just because he can

@vendettamalize7209

3 жыл бұрын

Good one sir

@xentiment6581

3 жыл бұрын

You dont need to admit shit thats obvious

Thank you for the eye opening presentation

we live in a society

@frogox3365

6 жыл бұрын

oppresion must STOP we shoul rise UP

@hanfyren7961

6 жыл бұрын

Shrek, you’re on the wrong channel. Try “jacksfilms”.

@mdd1963

6 жыл бұрын

He's Canadian.... :)

@FictualKyle

6 жыл бұрын

Frogox ! #deathtoallwhitemales

@gustavooliveira7363

6 жыл бұрын

Bottom text

Can we see some amd epyc chips. I feel the xeon videos have been beaten to death

@jedidethfreak

6 жыл бұрын

This is Linus we're talking about. Epyc will never come within a mile of his offices. Remember, he fangirled all over Intel's "5GHz 28 core processor!!!" at Computex.

@Maskinmester-DK

6 жыл бұрын

Yes he appreciates stability so therefore No AMD.

@WcSuka

6 жыл бұрын

Rasmus Rasmussen are you an Intel reply bot? What a random thing to say.

@Maskinmester-DK

6 жыл бұрын

Chris H No it's not random It's actually what he said and The Reason Why he doesn't Ryzen and AMD chips in general

@WcSuka

6 жыл бұрын

Noobish epyc is brand new and we already have a KZread commenter that's an expert on them and how intel is just sooooo much better.

so in other words that is one fast I9! Good video great to see hardware videos again. BS on the on task exicution, that's written out by board design or another component in front of both CPUs.

Was literally researching two CPU pcs earlier, great video

The thumbnail should have been each eye looking at a different cpu

Is the tatoo new?

@KrytopsyX

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, the other one can't be seen.

@ryanguest5727

6 жыл бұрын

Yes

@JonJaded

6 жыл бұрын

Trampstamp.

@Ivarius321

6 жыл бұрын

Is it a real tattoo?

@davediggz

6 жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same thing. A little garden snake, kinda cute?

Was just looking at getting my first duel xeons last night this is good timing

Some additional points to consider: Enterprise server systems that will be running scalable Xeons cannot be bought with single socket main boards. Also, populating just one of the 2 sockets means limiting your system to half of its PCIe bus “space”, as well as limiting it to half the system’s maximum RAM capacity.

So this is the 2.5ghz CPU that Intel plans to sell as 5ghz product at the end of the year. Huh.. Does it come with LN cooler?

@michelvanbriemen3459

5 жыл бұрын

Linus Nitrogen Tips

@OneThousand98

5 жыл бұрын

You see the tiny, tiny fans blowing over both of the 2.5Ghz chips there? Yeah. That shit normally sits inside a 1U rack case, in a server rack full of them! They got to clock them low otherwise your datacenter would melt down. In a desktop case you can have a giant, 120MM cooler or even a water cooling block, so you can clock the desktop chips much, much higher.

@blazbohinc5735

5 жыл бұрын

With a cooling solution you described, you could push it to.. maybe 3.8-4ghz, if you're lucky.

@basshead.

5 жыл бұрын

3.1ghz/4.3ghz(turbo)

@abcdefg9613

5 жыл бұрын

@@OneThousand98 Not even close. The heatsinks may be small but they compensate by coupling it with a very high rpm fan.

Like for Threadripper 2

@TalesOfWar

6 жыл бұрын

And Epyc when its available!

@ronald4life1

6 жыл бұрын

What about EPYC!?

a very well rounded episode. :) a little something for everyone.

I used to have dual sockets system once. The processors were 2x Pentium III 550 MHz on some old Gigabyte board with Windows 2000. I liked it very much.

I'm trying learn english with your videos, thx

@alextracythaxton5796

3 жыл бұрын

Very good , mate. Good job.

@danishopo551

3 жыл бұрын

Blyat

Linus as if anyone watching this is wearing underpants. Know your demographic.

@qweqwe9678

6 жыл бұрын

lol

@brock3157

6 жыл бұрын

DAMN BOI C H I L L *C H I L L*

@allenqueen

6 жыл бұрын

I am only wearing an underpant..

@hgibbons69

6 жыл бұрын

omg same

@funzosupport6922

6 жыл бұрын

I don't understand what did he do wrong? My bad just a bit slow sometimes

I just built a Threadripper 32 2990W, 256GB DDR4 4000, 2x WX-9100’s and a Titan Z CEO for rendering (came out of my gaming machine). I use it primarily for DaVinci Resolve 16, editing 4,6&8K video, AfterEffects, Maya and Blender. I have yet seen a slow down in performance our where I though to myself, I need an additional CPU. Though I will definitely be buying the 48 or 64 Core variants when they become available.The thing is a beast, even with WX-9100’s that turned out to be excellent cards for the type of tasks listed above, especially Open CL.

You should visit more often. I enjoy our conversations.

I have dual Xeons x5675's overclocked to 4.1ghz, I'm pretty happy :D

@TheFlatronify

6 жыл бұрын

how do you handle NUMA pinning?

@henrique8368

6 жыл бұрын

how much points you get on cinebench r15?single thread and multithread performance

@berkunucar

6 жыл бұрын

Proove that you have that Xeon by answering the questions above me

@marcanderson815

6 жыл бұрын

My server has dual xeons not overclocked and extremely old (E5405)

@ajburdett882

6 жыл бұрын

linuxmind I haven't touched anything to do with NUMA so I'm assuming it's all default

Should have done an epyc comparison,

I like your use of adjectives

3:00 in the video I have been wanting to build a new system for a bit now and like that ltt does provide info i really cant find elsewhere. I am a productivity driven enthusiast that reminisis about my history of obsessive gaming; that is to say I will a system built to get the JOB done and I might put a game on it oneday. What parts should I be looking to buy and what is just a waste of money. Hopefully on this episode of LTT drops things larger than my paycheck we will find out. *me thinking I like ltt so much, tons of useful info packed in a small time stamp with usually just enough fluff to keep a chuckle and entertainment going.

Great video. There are definitely uses for lots of cores and physical processors, but for number-crunching in general, I feel like the whole "many-core" situation is getting out of control. A lot of us would rather see more single-threaded performance increases, and leave parallel number crunching for the GPU. I feel like once we hit 64 cores, unless we're running a server, the CPU is ultimately and strangely starting to look like an over-priced GPU. Really excited for more single-threaded bumps at this point.

What about EPYC?

Great video. And what would happen if you use a dual socket with regular cpu's (not xeon)? of course would be less that with xeon ...but how much less? ..also we could see/compare how well (or worse) both platforms virtualize

Miss that old Athlon MP system I had back in like 2002/3 whatever with an ATI 9700pro!

When you come on Linus channel for cool tech stuff and you end up buying clothes and razors !! :)) LMAFO

@TH3Noob458

6 жыл бұрын

NIGHT RIDE MUSIC *when you come on Linus*

@MJ-uk6lu

6 жыл бұрын

underwear too

@cencil6497

6 жыл бұрын

And you are the gullible audience they hope to catch!

@anarchyantz1564

6 жыл бұрын

At least he didn't drop down to his shreddies this time.

@boba9170

6 жыл бұрын

and Butt Wipes.

you should try a dual epyc system

Loool, Jizzler from TPU, thumbs up buddy!

linus i was wondering if you would do another video about reveiwing budget keyboards and i would like you do include the redragon k561 visnu as i bought this keyboard two weeks ago and i love it.

Please do another scrapyard wars where you can only buy pieces individually no bundles.

Let me guess, *it depends*

I’m guilty of buying in used dual Xeon of previous gen so I’ll get my dual socket 3647 in a yr or so for the ASUS Z11PA-D8 and Noctua offers 3647 version of the NH-D9DX I use on my Z10PA-D8 snug fit but cool & quiet. Been using dualies since the day P2B-DS into PC-DL, x64 NCCH and Tylersburg 5520 is still 1 of my all time favorite duals as it is ECC &/or sdram compatible & somewhat overclockable on the Evga Classified SR2 w/ X5675’s to 4.2 ghz on air. I’m still working on Patsburg X99 dual E5-2667-V4's I wish I had played more w/ the P9X79-E WS system.

Hell ye thx Linus i love ur Contenet Keep it up m8

6:57 Look close-li-er... Nice tongue tying haha

WOW 28 cores!! Oh... wait.... Didnt AMD present a 64 core chip today? Yes, yes they did..... And didnt the single AMD chip beat 2 of these 28 cores chips? Yes, yes it did............

@TheExileFox

5 жыл бұрын

i'd like quad-socket mobo with that :D

@photonboy999

5 жыл бұрын

AMD test was bullshit. The guy that wrote the program they used to benchmark said NOT to use it as a representation of what the CPU could do. Why? Because it used highly repetitive, very small instructions that end up being buffered in the larger AMD cache. AMD chose Intel CPU's that had cache that wouldn't buffer these instructions completely so you end up with reads back to system memory that introduces delays... long story short is that the results were NOT indicative of real world usage... it probably will be a great product, but it's best to wait for unbiased benchmarks.

@scene6289

5 жыл бұрын

I have a question if I have 2 CPU's on a PC does that mean double the cores? And double the frequency?

@jeschinstad

5 жыл бұрын

@@scene6289: Not double frequency, but yes, double cores, double RAM support and not least, double PCIe lanes. So with a dual-Epyc with enough PCIe slots, you should be able to run about 50-70 high-end gaming stations from one box, assuming the ability to run dual- or quad-head gaming in VMs. With those 256 PCIe lanes, you could also run 64 m.2 devices at full speed. Would be interesting to see how much speed you could get from a Linux RAID0 setup. It is possible that it would be useful somehow. It would be a theoretical 224GB/s, with easy access to 256TB memory. Would be a fun project.

@pythonprofreak7522

4 жыл бұрын

@@photonboy999 2019 and 2020 proved that EPYC 7742 is the best server cpu for now. www.servethehome.com/amd-epyc-7742-benchmarks-and-review-simply-peerless/2/

very usefull info (pretty sure you´ll need some kind of water cooler in a close box or exo like antek and similars), for all of us tech predators. (dat high pitch voice thou)

Ever since my K7D Master (ooh la la, red PCB in the early 00s, fancy) paired with AMD MP processors I've always wanted a dual socket setup again, but only if it actually would be like, worth it. Good watch!

I love those latest Linus videos, they are less advertisment-ish, and so so interesting.. good job! Also the one about overclocking the whole pc and the one about the server.. finally I dont have to watch a vacuum cleaner commercial or a laptop i'll never buy ahah. This is the thing I want!!! With that said, I understand they have to pay the bills and mantaining this level of wuality ain't cheap.. but I'm sure there are clever way to do that!

@NEPTUNESTUDIOS

6 жыл бұрын

Andrea Zaffanella Bro this video is already an intel server advertisement

@AndreaZaffanella

6 жыл бұрын

Neptune Gamingz I know, but it's interesting still, that's why i said that there are clever way to advertise things

The Question is do you need a chiller ?

PG27UQ in every video, but no review yet. I really want to pick on of these up soon, but waiting on a few more reviews and I really value the LMG opinion/analysis. I appreciate taking the time to do a quality job though. Can't wait to see it soon!

Up until recently I was running a dual socket xeon board with 2 e5-2670 cpus. They were super cheap about 2 years ago and that gave me 16 cores/32 threads at 3.2 ghz. I'd have to go threadripper to reach that even now, but I have much better ipc with my 8700k. And I was actually using the memory appropriately , I was running several vms, divided across the memory and cores .

"No one is going to buy something like this for their personal rig." Older Xeons are actually relatively affordable. In fact I am typing this on 56 threads of my own.

Litterally just intel trying to cover up the fact that threadripper reamed them hard

@Tonatsi

6 жыл бұрын

TheAnimystro Sooooooooo... AMD. I remember how you tried to beat us in the CPU market by choosing multi core performance over single core performance.... and now, you’ve done it. You released a CPU that handles multi threaded applications better than ours. *_TOUGH LUCK, HERE IS OUR SUPER CORE. YOU CANNOT BEAT US, EVEN AT YOUR OWN GAME_*

@Lady_Zenith

6 жыл бұрын

Its just multiple dies glued together. They are in a fact separate CPU's with numa blocks and every disadvantage connected to it. TR/Epyc is just that. multiple CPUs in single socket. If Intel is forced they can do it as well, there is nothing great about it. Single 28-core CPU is way bigger technical achievement than thowing multiple 8c dies under one HS and calling it 32 core....

@ifyouwantmoneythengivemeev8094

6 жыл бұрын

yes. TR is a Glued core, but the "glue" is infinitely better than mutisocketing, so the point is still there. Plus, a single die 28core is ridiculously expansive, and the following cost tradeoff is orders of magnitude more than the performance gain.

@nicholaschan2982

6 жыл бұрын

REGARDLESS OF VALUE, Xeon and core i9 are OBJECTIVELY better in terms of RAW PERFORMANCE. We’ll have to wait for threadripper 2 benches in the future though

@churchseraphim1380

6 жыл бұрын

DOC Zenith it also happens to be way more economic and easier to manufacture and will likely be the only kind of way to yield any high performance chips in the future. It IS an achievement, getting the kind of scaling that Zen does without the insane disadvantages having separate dies glued together faces. Is it really more impressive to have a 28c/56t CPU cost 10 grand rather to have a 32c/64t competitor that comes in an order of magnitude less?

Linus, can you please make a video telling us what the difference is between Xeon E, W, and Scalable is and how it relates to core-i, core-x, and even Epyc and Threadripper?

Hey Linus I watch your videos a lot just subbed do you know any good parts for a $600 gaming pc?

"But I digress." -Linus Sebastian 😂

Dragon Tatoo?

@CaptainCheeriso

6 жыл бұрын

I believe it's MSI but it's been there on and off for a few epsiodes so I'm not certain if it's real or fake...

@Tpbmods

6 жыл бұрын

CaptainCheerios this is what I'm wondering.

@SamTehSquirrel

6 жыл бұрын

Mathias Holst-Egede it’s likely real because the order they record is not the same as the order they upload. Just look for it on WAN show if he is on it

I worked for a company which assembles servers for military/electric plants :) intel sells a lot of these :) I was at testing part (each of those machines goes through 3 different tests, then random number of servers from order (chosen by computer) goes to disassembly and reassembly to check if everything is done well (this is why is it so insanely expensive compared to price of components... which is pretty high too) some days there were 4 socket mini servers for jets, sometimes 8 socket 4u servers for atomic power plants (i don't even know why they want something like that, it's just insane), sometimes 8 socket 4u racks with 2 quadro GPU and almost 200GB RAM per CPU... sometimes there were dual socket 2u racks with 60 or even more SSD... and in the facility where I worked they produced around 200-400 units per day

It's not always about compute power. Consider Memory costs. If you have a requirement of 1.5TB, it may well be cheaper to go for a 2 socket machines (with half the cores each) with 64GB Dimms rather than a single socket with 128GB Dimms. Add in the extra PCI lanes and your dual socket machines is far more viable. And don't forget redundency!

That would be cool to have a motherboard where you could put a faster gaming processor in 1 socket, then another processor in another socket that has a ton of cores. Then have your computer know when to use each processor, you have The Best of Both Worlds.

@TalesOfWar

6 жыл бұрын

I think you just explained how a dedicated GPU works along side a CPU lol.

@nickchamberlin

6 жыл бұрын

TalesOfWar lol I guess I did. I'm thinking the higher core processors don't have the single core performance that something like a quad core does. Now that I think about it that seems like a terrible idea because of the work involved lol.

@arjaydee6379

6 жыл бұрын

Matthew B. Yes the big.LITTLE or multicluster cores on mobile ARM CPUs. Pretty neat if you ask me. Not sure why it haven't made its way especially to mobile/laptop x86 CPUs.

@grlmgor

6 жыл бұрын

KVM switch?

@sznikers

6 жыл бұрын

Just assign corect core affinity for the program you use and tune your system by editing turbo tables. So if for example you have a game that uses 2 cores max and have 8 core cpu, assign the game .exe file to two cores and tune your 2 core turbo to the max. 6 unused cores will clock down letting you push higher clock on remaining two your game uses.

*Nice tat my dude*

On enterprise level, if independent/multi-user programs are running on different datasets, multi-socket solutions are quite preferred at the moment. At least I checked solutions in our computer centre and (except for interactive hosts) all nodes have 2 to 4 sockets and each 8-20 cores per socket (depending on date of purchase, I suppose), glancing at numbers w/o having deep statistical analyses of the tables (460 hosts, 25784 cores, 992 sockets, 217 951GB RAM).

@joelpichette

Жыл бұрын

I think in that direction too, Firefox is software that uses 8 threads. on my home workstation (Lenovo D20 dual xeon x5670) If I use 2 cpu instead of 1 (24 threads instead of 12), Firefox is a lot faster to scroll and feels way better. I think the main difference is the memory access feature of the second cpu. When 1 cpu uses its 3 channels of memory for the scrolling, the other cpu also has 3 channels of memory on another independant system which is lowering memory read/write/access lag making the system smoother on 2 sets of 3 memory channels.

Muito bom os testes esse cara é Show de bola 😎👊

Secretly sponsored by intel marketing.. Because as we all know AYummmD.

@Aereto

6 жыл бұрын

Professor X Xeons are overpriced.

@mystirboy

6 жыл бұрын

Correct me if I'm wrong but if I recall correctly, I remember Linus saying that they don't cover much AMD since AMD doesn't sponsor their channel as much as they LTT would like to be. On the other hand with AMD's current track record and followers, I think they're at a point where they really don't need to sponsor content creators to advertise their stuff. I mean in almost every tech video there's always a comment talking about AMD so hurray for free advertising!

Dual Threadripper 2 Build plz b0ss. 64 Cores, 128 Threadsssssss. Wait is there a motherboard with with 2 threadripper sockets?

@TalesOfWar

6 жыл бұрын

TR2 doesn't support multi-socket, that's where Epyc comes in.

@Wargon2013

6 жыл бұрын

How many cores will Epyc 2 have? 64 iirc. Has linus ever made a video benchmarking Epyc? Also, does Intel offer anything similar? Epyc has been out for a while and Intel can offer at most 28 cores.

@amijacobs-shipway2189

6 жыл бұрын

HEDT consumer skus do not have dual socket motherboards

@joaquinninoortega156

6 жыл бұрын

Wargon he never made one

@FloydBartholomew

6 жыл бұрын

Wargon 48 cores in zen 2. 64 per socket may come with the zen 3 generation.

Another reason for use this kind of setup, Full 4 Way SLI. I need a system to support 4 GPU in full SLI. No Single CPU (AMD or Intel) had so many SLI lane available for GPU. Closest was AMD threadripper with 64 SLI lanes but all are not available for GPU (some needed for communication and 4 for NVMe drive). I got the same motherboard but with Xeon Silver Scalable 4110 for a total of 89 SLI lanes (48+48)

Happy 2-year anniversary, this video.

Next video: Do you need a Graphics Card for gaming?

@1234garrett1993

6 жыл бұрын

You forgot the in 2018 lol

@mikejameson7678

6 жыл бұрын

Voxel To answer that, it's a 'maybe'. I have an Intel HD Graphics 4000 (sed laif.) And it can easily run Sleeping Dogs, and Just Cause 3, with semi-spec settings. Yes, requires optimizing. And Yes, it's hard, and takes time.

@charleseastin7914

6 жыл бұрын

Mike Jameson I think it was a joke...

@andrewscott7728

6 жыл бұрын

The real question is can you rig 2 graphics cards to do the job of the cpu.

@mikejameson7678

6 жыл бұрын

Charles983 Baller Joke or not, I am running an intergraded GPU - A part of the CPU, for gaming.

how dose that xeon stack up against threadripper lol

I've got a dual socket G34 running a total of 24 threads. It's a fun toy that does a few specific tasks quite well. (Other workloads - "not so much...") The boards are about a hundred USD, the CPUs ten bucks a pop, and memory is just a touch over 1 dollar per gigabyte. :)

Here we are in 2024 and I’m just about to buy one of these workstation 😂😂😂 I do remember watching this video the day it was uploaded.😂 Mind you at that time I had a dual 8 core extreme addition xeons, with no hyper threading. The ASUS Tyan Tempest motherboard had 16 dimm slots with 4 channel x2x2=16dimm. I’m hoping the 6 channel ram will be sweet. The new machine will have 384 gig of ram, 12x 32gig sticks😁.

Multiple sockets might become popular if an architecture is engineered to take advantage of the computational superiority of the Xeon in order to optimize the scalability and flexibility of a bitcoin mining rig.

@michaelskywalker3089

5 жыл бұрын

Apparently, it is becoming less feasible to invest in ASICS to mine most bitcoin and even less so for gpu/cuda setups.A data center that relies on multi-parallel (not massive) processing of the fastest cpus using the most efficient chipsets and memory architecture combined with supplemental racks of cuda/gpus might become less susceptible of become obsolete due to advances in gpu technology and ASIC/ algorithmic advances.

Always two there are

"But!, look closelier" - damn Linus, you know how to 'splain things good! 6:56

Nice man

I can two Intel 80486SX akimbo in that very same motherboard in 1990. The roaring speed of 33mhz a piece was pretty cutting edge stuff for my country. As much as I cringed at the newb saying it's 'wall art' I still have the chips sitting in a sock drawer hidden so the waifu won't dispose of it as I'm pretty anti-tech hoarding yet can't bring myself to abandon CPU's because they're a little memory of all the cool porn and warez they brought me.

I had a 64-core gaming system with 1024 GB of 10GHz DDR9 and four Quadro RTX8000 running SLI. Then I suddenly woke up.

@user-xr3rb6pn9m

4 жыл бұрын

In all seriousness through, single-thread performance is whay still matters for most games. Only in recent yeards did game developers start to care about parallelizing the workload in their games.

Kind of new to PC building and was wondering what everyones opinions on this build are, any advise is appreciated... CPU:Intel i-7 8086k 4.0GHZ CPU Fan:Corsair Hydro Series H60 HDD:240 Adata SSD+3TB Sata III RAM:16GB DDR4/3000MHz Motherboard:ASRock z370 pro atx w/RGB Power Supply:1000w 80+gold GPU:EVGA GeForce GTX 1080ti 11GB GDDR5X

I remember my first desktop was a dual AMP Athlon MP 2000+ setup.. Palomino cores. Ran Seti@home on them 24/7 with Seti Driver caching the workunits since I just had dialup. In the early 2000s while I was in high school. I still thought my computer was way too darn slow because of those darned hard drives.

SLI for CPU's xD

@tin2001

6 жыл бұрын

Josué Solano It's called SMP and it's been around longer than nVidia has.

@jurredevries8763

6 жыл бұрын

lol 3fx made SLI nVidia bought the idea...

@Amiaaaaaaaaa

6 жыл бұрын

It’s called CrossFire, the shittier SLI.

@Amiaaaaaaaaa

6 жыл бұрын

But no need for a physical bridge

@thedamnfilthysorcerer300

6 жыл бұрын

More like fire strike since it's all through the board and not a independent bridge lol.

Dual-xeons are a thing of the past. I’m buying Epyc single socket units over dual socket Xeons. NUMA still applies however it works favourably for virtualised workloads where by one EPYC is basically four whole Ryzen systems in one socket.

my first pc purchase was a 486sx, ran win 95 on it and doom 3d. Had a Paradise 3dc video card. Burned out 1st card they gave me with na literal hole through gpu. Paradise ran great.

If you think that's cool, you should check out the ThunderX2. Up to 54 cores and 216 threads (potentially, although I haven't heard of any product which actually goes this high) on ONE CPU. Dual-socket exists as well, for a total of 108 cores, 432 threads.