Do Calvinists believe that we are robots? Compatibilism teaching
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This video addresses many of the questions that @Soteriology101 poses. It addresses the common argument that Calvinists believe we are robots. This video will help even the highly reformed be able to articulate the nuance of biblical free will. I have referenced this video on @roguecalvinist videos a hundred times because I believe that many who attempt to refute Calvinism would benefit from watching this video. Before my debate with @JPuncut I sent him this video so that we could have valuable interaction. I taught this @gracebaptistwestasheville2994 which is a @IXMarks church and a part of the Southern Baptist Convention. If you hate Calvinism and Reformed Theology then you ought to watch this video. If you love Reformed Theology, you ought to watch this video. No matter where you stand, I can almost guarantee that you will learn something.
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Great teaching brother. Thank you
Excellent sermon,if just more Arminians would watch it.
@TwitchyThelogian
28 күн бұрын
Thank you. I wish they would because I believe that it would clear up a lot of confusion that they have regarding God's decree and man's creaturely freedom.
@CBALLEN
28 күн бұрын
@TwitchyThelogian The thing us tho, without the Spirit, it will remain foolishness .Your teaching will only cause the born again, Arminians to believe.
@virginiahernandez1329
28 күн бұрын
or maybe its you that doesnt have the spirit
@virginiahernandez1329
28 күн бұрын
JOHN 3;17
Gotta put it here for you twitchy!! 🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖
@TwitchyThelogian
28 күн бұрын
Beep boop boop beep! Or ought I say: 0110010101001
@JohnMackeyIII
28 күн бұрын
@@TwitchyThelogian well I only speak in QR code tongues.. I was given the update!!😂😂😂
Testing 123 Finally works
@TwitchyThelogian
26 күн бұрын
Just making sure. CBALLEN had the same problem and I didn't block him either. KZread just messes up or something because I don't even know how to block people.
@aletheia8054
26 күн бұрын
@@TwitchyThelogian ok. Yeah, I’m having the same problem too, but for some reason on your channel, it was every single comment no matter what I said. So I thought you blocked me.
Amen,Gods drawing overcomes all resistance!
@virginiahernandez1329
28 күн бұрын
the the jews would of been saved
@BigGuy86ed
24 күн бұрын
How so? Those that are drawn CAN come. Abso this is the same drawn as John 12:32. John 6:44 KJV [44] No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
@CBALLEN
24 күн бұрын
@BigGuy86ed All the Father gives, comes to Jesus and Jesus raises them ALL UP BUT,no one can come,unless the Father draws them and ALL DRAWN will be raised up by Jesus. This isn't a take or leave it thing,this is the Father deciding who will come and be saved and those not drawn,are not able to come. Jesus drawing ALL MEN does not mean ALL INDIVIDUALS, it means that Jesus is not just drawing Jews,but Gentiles too.
@BigGuy86ed
24 күн бұрын
@CBALLEN what in John 6:37 is not given by the Father? Also who is not drawn by the Father in John 6:44? John 6:37 KJV [37] All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. I'm not seeing a limiting because they can come. John 6:32-33 KJV [32] Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. [33] For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
@BigGuy86ed
24 күн бұрын
@CBALLEN Also, who are the given? John 17:6,9,12
Every time I hear the “compatibaliist” argument I feel like I get a little more dumb. It’s just a contradiction.
@TwitchyThelogian
26 күн бұрын
So, I would respond by saying that youur problem is with Scripture (Acts 4). God clearly can ordain actions and they still be free. If not, you are saying that Herod and Pontius Pilate are not culpable for their actions.
@TwitchyThelogian
26 күн бұрын
I would simply ask that you watch the entire video before responding. If you still disagree that is okay. Just give my argument a chance please :)
@Dizerner
22 күн бұрын
Indeed, Otis. It's like the emperor's new clothes, they insist he is wearing something.
@otiscorn4538
22 күн бұрын
@@Dizerner It’s like saying I’m married and I’m single.
Non sequitur in the first 5 minutes. There can be variables in between the beginning and end state that still cannot alter the end state.
@TwitchyThelogian
22 күн бұрын
Thank you for pointing that out. That certainly is a fair response. I would love to unpack that more with you to let you know why I think that my argument is sound. Would you be willing to discuss it on the channel sometime? I am not looking to debate, simply to flesh out what each of us believe.
@TwitchyThelogian
22 күн бұрын
Also, please watch the rest and point out any other "Inconsistencies." I love to be challenged. It sharpens me. Thanks. God bless :)
@Dizerner
22 күн бұрын
@@TwitchyThelogian I understand some people struggle with a written format and find spoken dialogue more enjoyable or easy to follow, however I do not think it would be profitable in this instance, and right now I prefer to measure what I write, and the desire for truth does not care for the package it comes in, but for the truth that is conveyed. I respect and appreciate your congenial demeanor. You're a likeable guy. Because I think Calvinism is a selfish way to resolve the problem of evil and find a false security, I don't think we will have too much in common or find any agreement. However, I also consider Provisionists and such to be even more heretical by -watering down the sin nature and putting demands on God. Arminians don't so much believe in free will, as in freed will, grace can empower that will once again without forcing and raping it. See, the truth is, I have discovered, most Calvinists find the Arminian God offensive while claiming you should not accept God based on how offensive he seems, and almost bragging that the Calvinist God is offensive. Yet they talk about how offensive a God who just "lets" people go to hell is, which is hypocritically against their own preaching that you should not even consider how offensive a doctrine is. My flesh would prefer a Calvinistic God just so I can have more selfish security and see the lost as trash I don't have to be offended about, and that's an idol of self. If God has a holy reason to let people be lost, it is more submissive to his sovereignty to display a willingness to accept it. It's true many objectors say they find the Calvinist God more offensive, but that is because they make the same mistake Calvinists make, but on the opposite side of the ditch, the other end of the spectrum, eliminating some form of original sin in one way or another, to make God more palatable. The truth is, the real middle offends both sides, Calvinists and Provisionists alike. It is, I know, very hard to let go of false securities and I haven't seen people often willing to do it. Yet I think you show some signs of humility and sincerity, and hold out real hope you could hear the Holy Spirit speak some truth in what I wrote. God bless you always.
@TwitchyThelogian
18 күн бұрын
I was hoping that you would engage more with my argument presented in the video. I have never claimed that the Arminian God is offensive. In fact, I think we worship the same God. I think you are just wrong about a few things that He does.
HEBR 3:12-14 warnings because we cant fall into unbelief lol
@TwitchyThelogian
27 күн бұрын
So, first you need to understand the nature of the covenant. There are people in covenant with God who are not born again. Second, for those who are born again this verse is used by God to cause them to persevere. It isn't an issue for Calvinists at all.
@virginiahernandez1329
27 күн бұрын
@@TwitchyThelogian prove they were not born agian please, there called brothers
@Dizerner
22 күн бұрын
Indeed. When your theology needs to heavily redefine the word "if" just because you want to feel more secure, you should question your own motives.
JOHN 6 just says we have to be drawn not that he doesnt want everyone drawn. JOHN 3;17 for God did not send the son into the world to comdemn the world but to SAVE the world through HIM..... context kills calvanism
@aletheia8054
25 күн бұрын
The word means drag like drag you into court. It doesn’t say he drags everyone in the planet
@Soonerking
21 күн бұрын
Your bad spelling kills your argument! But to be clear you are simply assuming the term world means each and every person when it is more nuanced than that.
we desire according our nature not biblical
@TwitchyThelogian
25 күн бұрын
So, why is it that God doesn't sin? Why is it that Jesus says, "Out of the heart proceeds the things of life?"
@Dizerner
22 күн бұрын
@@TwitchyThelogian Would you deny God free will? Is God forced to be good no matter what instead of freely choosing to be good?
@Soonerking
21 күн бұрын
@@Dizerner God is good period. Whatever he does is good. There is no standard that God is subject to.
@Dizerner
21 күн бұрын
@@Soonerking I agree there is no moral standard that God is subjected to outside of his own declared morals. He does give us a real definition of good that is not just "whatever God does." Anything God could do would be just. But God could be just and not good if he wanted. So if God self defines as maximally good we are within our rights to examine a doctrine and see if that God is truly maximally good as he has revealed himself to be under the definition of good he provides to us. This will help us ferret out false doctrine that mars God's character.
your not predestined to be preaching
@JohnMackeyIII
28 күн бұрын
I believe twitchy’s good works of proclamation and teaching were determined before the foundations of the earth! You have been predestined to speak foolishness and folly so that I, being predestined to correct you, might have an opportunity to practice moderated rebuke! I hope you gain wisdom and understanding and no longer take enjoyment from suppressing truth! 😑
@Soonerking
21 күн бұрын
And you (VH) are predestined to light-headed commentary! LOL.
ROM8 has alot of IFs, read romans 8 in context please. 1j3;23 commands US to believe hhhhhhhmmmmm
@TwitchyThelogian
28 күн бұрын
Yep. God commands all men to repent. No one will (Roman’s 8:7-8) so, God causes His elect to be born again and then we trust in Him. We love you. Don’t harden your heart to the truth.
@virginiahernandez1329
27 күн бұрын
@@TwitchyThelogian so yoou cant turn from GOD BINGO FREE WILL , not robots.
@virginiahernandez1329
27 күн бұрын
@@TwitchyThelogian john 6 to SAVE THE WORLD BINGO
@virginiahernandez1329
27 күн бұрын
@@TwitchyThelogian when can we debate or talk on your channel