If you turn off obstacle avoidance , why would it still be on ? 😂

@51Drones

9 ай бұрын

As I mentioned, because I thought Waypoints had a failsafe that superseded the OA setting. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@WestVirginiasBigred271

9 ай бұрын

I’m just curious when you set up a waypoint mission I would assume that the drone uses GPS to record the exact location of that particular waypoint. So if you were about 5 miles from that location the drone would automatically fly to that location once you enabled the mission? But if you lost signal it would probably cancel the mission and return home. I hate to see that happen to your mini 4 pro. I hope DJI will send you a new one or repair it

@chrisharris_arizona

9 ай бұрын

@@WestVirginiasBigred271 correct, it would fly to the gps location of latitude and longitude, however, unless you somehow takeoff at the same elevation above sea level from 5 miles away as where you took off from when you set those waypoints, it will fly at a completely different height. Be very careful with this. I almost flew into a light pole once because I took off 10 feet lower in elevation than when I set the way points, and just by luck, missed it by a couple feet.

@StevieProton

9 ай бұрын

@@chrisharris_arizonaNot quite. I had my waypoints listed as they are saved and when I went to fly a previous mission I selected the wrong one and I got an error message to say the start point was greater than 10km (6 miles) away and it wouldn’t start. So, there is a limit as to how far away you can start a mission.

@chrisharris_arizona

9 ай бұрын

@@StevieProton my point wasn’t to say literally say 5 miles…it was the example used in original question. More stating that you don’t have to take off from the same place for it to find point 1 and the point was to watch the height/elevation of take off. If you do some testing for distances, please let us know at what distance it works as it would be interesting to find out the distance that it starts to works. One would think, if DJI programmed it for US flights that maybe they’d take the 3 statute miles number and allow that. Either way, nobody in the States should be doing that without a waiver since it’s BVLOS.

Now you can do a video on DJI refresh care.

@51Drones

9 ай бұрын

Didn’t have it

@roninr8199

4 ай бұрын

​@@51Droneshow much did it cost you to fix? My country doesn't even have a dji store.

Take home message: If you want obstacle avoidance, don´t turn it off!

@diogogamba9338

6 ай бұрын

I totally agree.

You're a good man to share the heartache of crashing and the principle of moments. 😮‍💨

One of the best tip I got from watching KZread videos and doing a quick shot was keeping your finger on the pause button in case of an emergency while I was doing a circle quick shot and my mini 2 was about to hit a tree from the side which helped me save my drone. Keeping clear line of sight and knowing your surroundings also helps. I was shocked to see the mini 4 even with obstacle avoidance sensors still managed to crash. Can't rely too much on technology no matter how good they claim it to be. Good thing you got DJI credits and getting a replacement soon. Can't wait to see more of your great videos.

@BlairAir

9 ай бұрын

Well he turned the sensors off. They can't help if you intentionally disable them. He was trying to prove they work even when off, when running Waypoints. They do not. The Obstacle Avoidance indicator was bright red. Interestingly they do still work in RTH, as designed- I think that's what Russ was thinking of. 🤔

@TheDroneRanger215

9 ай бұрын

@@BlairAir I stand corrected. I had to re-watch the video to realize that.

@BlairAir

9 ай бұрын

@@TheDroneRanger215 All good- figured you missed part of that. No OA is perfect, but it's rarely THAT bad, lol!

The short of this is obstacle avoidance was turned off. Waypoints mode does NOT override/ enable obstacle avoidance itself. You still want to make sure its turned on. Propeller guards also disable obstacle avoidance. What it does do, is it forces your currently activated obstacle avoidance to only work in "Brake Mode". It does not let you use the Bypass setting while waypoints are active. Always look in the top right of the screen. The little 4 way bumper will be white if its enabled and red if its disabled.

You've set a record!! One of the first guys to break the arm of a mini 4 pro!! Dinner is served. DJI CARE REFRESH IS WAITING.

Thanks Russ! Great lesson for us all!!

Great tutorial and a great lesson for us all at the end. Based out of Vancouver, I shot helicopter aerials for Hollywood for years. Guess how we organized our missions? With rehearsals and waypoints. It's the only way to guarantee safety and repeatability. SO glad to see them arrive on the Mini 4.

Thanks for lesson learned. I've wondered about this same situation myself

I'm so happy we have guys like you who will crash for us so we don't have to😂 I love this feature, hope i can learn to use it properly!!! I've been a subscriber for a few yrs now and wondering why i sometimes do not get notified of a new video from you, glad i got the notification for the shorts video or i wouldn't have know you crashed😡 Thank's for giving these educational videos, i always learn something new 👍👍👍

Hi there Russ, thank you for continuing tutorials and educating on drones, your channel has helped me a lot since it started and inspired me into buying a drone for my travel videos. What I'm going to share here does not relate to your current video but my recent experience while travelling. I have been carrying my DJI Mavic in my bag pack for last 4 years ( on dozens of national and international flights) with no trouble and i even always deliberately disclose it to TSA who also never seemed to have any problem. However, this time, while boarding Emirates airlines in Athens to NYC, they had a sign right before entering the jet bridge (tube) to board the plane, that said (some thing to the effect) "Let a crew member know, If you have following items in your carry on" (which also included Drone), so i did what a law abiding citizen would do, i informed the person checking the boarding passes and then to my surprise, the whole hell broke loose, they halted boarding, started to make calls right and left, started yelling that i should have known better and so on (this time i was only carrying my DJI mini, i even took out my drone to show them that how little this thing was but to no avail). Eventually a security personnel showed up took my gear bag from me (full of thousand of $ worth cameras and drone) and told me that i would receive it on my arrivals at Newark. When i told them to atleast put a 'Fragile' sticker on it, the lady angrily said, it's on you and walked away while i was still talking. I just want your response to what's your take on this over-reaction from Emirates airlines, when Airports securities never exhibited any concerns with all of this and it would've been ok , had i not disclosed it ?

Sorry to hear about the crash!!! I haven't been brave enough to fly with way points along my forest road yet with the Air 3 but am working up to it so I can try to make a good season change video along the same path. Thanks for sharing more about way points in general.

Whoda thunk that turning obstacle avoidance off would turn obstacle avoidance off?

Thank you for the way-point tutorial, and the valuable PSA on obstacle avoidance. So sorry to see your drone crash.

Love the videos Russ! I just received my mini 4 pro today. I bought the DJI Care Refresh for this exact reason, so thank you for sharing. It's a little different than flying my M30T!

Thanks for the update much appreciated

Thanks for the tutorial. I learned a lot. Sorry for your loss.

just got one mini 4 pro, i really apreciate your video and your advice

Thanks so much for all the added tips you threw in. I just purchased the mini Pro Plus package. I have the original Mavic Pro Platinum Plus and just bought a new controller for that one. But I'm more anxious for this mini as it seems to have more protection from accidents built in to programs. Im really very new at this. My Mavic Plat. Only has a few hrs in it. But thats what you do when your retired and exploring. Can't wait to take it into the Smokey Mts and film. Thanks a heap You are articulate, thorough, and you speak at any level of experience.

Your drone videos are full of great information and easy to watch. Regrettably, working with the remote map is not as easy or smooth as on your video(s). Thanks again for incredible info/advice!

Thanks for sharing. I’m sure you saved me from making a mistake in the future.

Great video Russ - love it!

Great bonus lesson: I just bought Dji Care Refresh =)

Oops, well we’ve learned a lesson 😱😱. Thank you Russ for your excellent waypoint tutorial. This video and your others will help me with the Air 3 FM w/ RC-2 controller I ordered🙏🙏

another great vid.

I had that similar injury with the front right arm of my M3P, And Nooo DJI Care Plan, to fix my arm, cracked gimbal and something else... Only cost me $61...and DJI paid for S/H.... and they have the BEST communication through that return process...and I don't remember the actual turn around time? But it wasn't more than a week after I submitted payment and returned the drone... I'm pretty sure they sent me a refurbished drone, but so far it's been working as new... Lesson learned: NEVER turn off Obstacle Avoidance... Thanks for sharing Russ!!! #Salute #SafeFlying #DJIisTheBest

Great Video🙂

Ouch!! Very brave and honest of you to hang out (well at least until the 4 mini hit the ground) your fail. Many would not be so transparent, i.e. "I meant to do that". Good episode (and again, honest). Kudos!

You dont need cheap drama for views, you re the best either ways.

@51Drones

9 ай бұрын

Not sure what you mean, but thanks I guess.

Good tip about the altitude start lol.

Another great post Russ, you are the reason I bought my Mini 3 Pro, one month before the Mini pro 4 intro 😒. Wished I would have waited, oh well. Maybe they'll add waypoints to the Mini 3 Pro someday.

lesson learned

Been there done that! Sorry about your Mini 4 but you got the answer to the question just not the one any of us wanted. This is a good example of why we don't want to be disturbed while flying.

Silly decision, but as long as lesson's have been learned, all good. Great content, nice to see ho smooth way points is.

I love My New Mini 4 pro. So many upgrades

I really am sorry to hear about your Mini 4 Pro but Russ, this post is priceless. Thank you sharing your misstep so openly and honestly. You always make a big, positive difference for me and my drone experiences. Keep up the great work. P.S. Its more cost effective on several levels to keep your wife, even if she "caused" you to crash your drone on every flight.😅 (I chuckled out loud at that joke.) Keep getting high, sir.

The Maven app has had waypoints for quite a while now and it works really well. It will work with my Mavic 2 Zoom and my Mini 2. It won't work with the newer DJI drones because DJI will not release the Software Development Kit (SDK) for them. Now I think I know why DJI won't release the SDK; DJI is trying to make their software work as well and Maven and Litchi. Also, with the Maven app you do not have to fly your mission first to set waypoints and you do not need to worry if take off from a different altitude or even a different spot.

Waypoit also has a bug. When you save any waypoit and come to it it is off by almost 50 feet at times. Hopefully DJI will fix this soon

Thanks for the vid, I also learned the hard way using RTH on my m4p at dawn and it completely didn’t see my tan color house and was totaled

Ouch! Lesson learned and shared!

Hi Russ. Thks for your ongoing informative videos. Would it be possible (when you get your replacement M4 Pro) to do a video on Precision Landing on the M4 Pro, not only demoing it but what tech, like GPS, sensors etc DJI has used to make this possible. There seems to be some confusion as I watch other videos. Thks and keep up the great videos.

Sorry about your crash. Hopefully you had dji care refresh. I just crashed my air 3 it landed in water and had to use it

Need a video on how to file a boo boo claim pretty cool I'm still flying the original mavic pro the OG thinking about upgrading definitely like that you don't have to use your phone with the new rc ✌️

Thank you. Now I know that if you turn off Obstacle avoidance, then it stops working.

What made you believe that your drone would stop if you turned off obstacle avoidance?

Great video buddy. Just sold my mini 2 and my 4 pro arrives tomorrow 😊. Never used waypoints before but your video explains it in a way I can understand. Can you do a tutorial on the poi waypoints please 🙏 subscribed 👌

One situation I could think of where you would not want the drone to RTH on lost signal would be if you were flying a mission down a tight path through a forest or low along a stream, where rising up to the RTH height would potentially put the drone into the canopy of the trees. If you know the path the drone is going, and battery levels are tight, it might make sense to have it land, but certainly hovering would be preferred over RTH in that situation. Sorry about your crash! It's an excellent reminder about how focused we should be when flying!

Thank you sir for the lesson. I plan to buy a mini 4 Pro once I am financially able. Around a year back I bought the mini 3 Pro and discovered that way points only worked in Hyperlapse mode. Also I might add that while in Hyperlapse the obstacle avoidance results in the mission being canceled. I held out hope that dji would eventually add video record waypoints, for the mini 3 pro, but they never did.

Nevermind the hateful comments Russ, unfortunately this is the world we live in today. It can happen to the best of us. I always appreciate your content because I continue to learn new things. Good luck and hope you get a new mini 4 soon.

@51Drones

9 ай бұрын

All comments have value. A dirty $100 bill is worth the same as a brand new one. 😁

I love your videos…..do you have one walking you through how to fly in an “authorized zone”? Got all I needed and my drone still wouldn’t fly after I approval from LAANC and unlocked the Geo Zone.

10:20 foreshadowing 😮 RIP floppy arm! And your marriage 😂

Miss my drone. The way things go around here I doubt I will be able to get one again. This mini 4 sure makes me want one

I’m very sorry about your drone Russ! EcoFlow makes the best solar generators and I’ve been using the original River when it first came out. Now I have the River Pro 2 and been thinking of upgrading to the Delta Pro. Really amazing rock solid products they have.

I need this tutorial for my real estate work. thank you. sorry for your drone.

As usual a nice and well informing video! 👍 But I don't understand; why testing the collision avoidance if it’s turned off? What was it you were looking for? 🤔

Top video ❤❤❤❤

I'm sorry for your drone. Thanks for sharing.

Hey, thank you so much for this video I really loved the way point to Tutorial. I've been obsessed lately with fixing my DJI Mini 3 pro Ayala small minor crash did ended up causing the gamble to be stock. I have taken it apart replaced. Free thing, even the rubber shocks. But still, I'm having trouble committing to putting it back together without knowing if the motor on the Gimble is bad or not. So I'm gonna hit the brakes. I ran out and bought them Mini 4 pro. Sorry about this long. Comment but I just charged it up. And I'm ready to head out and I caught your video on KZread, and I'm really grateful that I seen the way point tutorial cause I did not even know it had it. I'm super excited about all these new upgrades in the active tracking and. The 360 obstacle avoidance. Once again, thank you, thank you, thank you. I hope 1 day I can make some help for videos of my own. That's what I'm striving for right now. I'm having a lot of fun making relaxing videos. I have so many hours of footage that I have not edited and posted online yet. Or on KZread only 3 of them. That I think are good enough to post if anyone could check out my small golf course videos and give me some tips. I would really appreciate it. @everythingdrone1

Yes, my mini2 also crashed yesterday because of a wire that I didn't notice for just a few seconds.

Sorry you lost your drone. Definitely took one for the team! I have always created my Waypoint missions old school. Do RECON flights to gather the elevation data, plot the points on the map view, then adjust for heading & altitude. This method has allowed me to create some amazing missions. Today I took the Mini 4 to downtown Baltimore, aka "Harm City", to try creating a mission by actually flying to & capturing the points via C1. The mission was pretty complex with nearly 60 points, involving multiple building spirals. Cut it a little close on one pass but the bird came home in one piece. kzread.info/dash/bejne/haB4m6WYhMjShtY.htmlsi=CRGDAtD1Go5ie6OZ

I’m getting my mini for in two days, can’t wait to learn it all. Just wondering if you can lock him in on a subject while doing the waypoint

@51Drones

9 ай бұрын

Yes! I forgot to demonstrate that

Maybe I missed something but why would you want to turn off obstacle avoidance? Wouldn't you always want to avoid crashing into something? Not sure when or why you would want to turn that feature off.

I wonder as well, was it one of the take off and fly before the home piont is set. Like the one with the water fall. But now aday dji drones (new ones crash alot), and risk taking seems not a good idear. But the "way point" pointers are good for me I have a 3 Classic. Thanks for the video.

Hi can you do a video about the dji air 2s vs the dji mini 4 pro

Would you consider doing a quick out of the box RID test flying recreationally before you register the drone and enter the registration info into the replacement drone? I would bet it will broadcast the drone serial number, drone telemetry and, regrettably, the pilot location. I realize you probably can't publish video of the flight, but I would be thrilled to just hear you comment on the results in your next video.

Thanks for the valuable lesson Russ, sorry it was at the cost of your new drone.

Excellent tutorial. I"ve just purchased the Mini 4 Pro and appreciate your instructive videos. Sorry about the loss of your 4 Pro. What's the chances of you doing your test and having your wife distract you at a crutial moment! Thanks again, keep the videos rolling!

Thanks for your video. I'm so sorry what happened to your Mini 4 Pro zone. Lessons learnt. So if a buying another Mini 4 Pro it automatically means you are more than happy with its performance.

@51Drones

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely

Thanks for the great video and lessons learned! If the Mini 4 Pro breaks (to avoid an obstacle) during a mission, and then stops/cancels the mission, does it automatically trigger RTH or it stays there doing nothing? Or it takes whatever setting you used in the mission for what to do when the mission completes?

Is that covered by the dji drone warranty that they offer? Thanks again for sharing!

13:47 oooohhhh ... testing mishap, BUT very educational 😮

Russ - love your videos - and the fact that you always own up to the mistakes. The only thing I can say is, what on Earth made you think that 'OFF' wouldn't actually be 'OFF' ?

Thanks for the info!..separate question or topic.... Do you think that DJI will do another firmware update later on..on the AIR 3..where like in the Mavic 3 Pro uses the "obstacle avoidance" cameras as separate visual cameras so you can see around you further more...its seems like they have no excuse because the cameras are there already..unless its a "processor" issue?..where the Air 3 doesn't have enough internals to do so?.

🧐 same durability as the mini 3 pro ✅. The mini 3 pro is the only drone I’ve had to replace due to crash,TWICE 😂. Thanks for that demo. As they say, there are no stupid questions only expensive answers.

Loving waypoints on the Air 3, it’s awesome… just seen you crashed 😬😬it annoys me though that you cannot see your height and distance when you are creating the waypoints…Dji please fix

It happened to me once too with the mini 2 drone but I panicked when I was getting close and I didn't know what to do in time and I crashed into a wall

I’m sure DJI will send you a replacement mini 4 pro, I can’t wait to try out waypoint’s with my A3 and put your info to good use.

Thank you very much for the video. Sorry for your loss and subscribers gain. Right before the crash, it looks like it recognized the tree and had a red circle. Not sure why it didn't stop. That really sucked.

You don’t need to launch from ‘Exactly the same point for waypoint re runs - And also Sudden movements have no bearing on the smoothness of transitions as long as the way points are well separated - The drone will have time to automate a smooth transition regardless Of how you move the gimble and camera during set up - And why would obstacle avoidance work if you switch off obstacle avoidance? Russ back to the drawing board - would advise getting DJI care refresh - Thanks for your content

@51Drones

9 ай бұрын

Please cite a reference to your statement that you do not have to launch from the exact same location for subsequent waypoints.

@DB_-jj7wd

9 ай бұрын

@@51Drones Hi Russ - I’m running a few waypoint missions at the moment and you can start them from within a reasonable distance of the initial launch (a few hundred metres) - The only restriction I imagine would be the battery and drones ability to determine whether the mission can be completed within the time of the battery - The drone only needs to be able to locate the first waypoint - And please note that you can set up waypoint missions on the device at home before visiting your proposed location so the drone is never going to know where you previously launched from

Sorry that happened to you man. I know the feeling. My first flight with my Mjni 3 pro I hand launched from a boat and must not have held it long enough and it flew straight into the lake. Bunch of people watching g me do it. Very embarrassing. Lucky I had State Farm insurance. Replaced it right away. But guess what? After being about 3ft at the bottom of the lake for 5-10 minutes I still decided to try drying it out in rice and it worked completely fine after! I was amazed. P Sorry for your loss, but thank you for the great info. Looking forward to trying out waypoints. Not sure why it needs to take off from the same place. Thought it could simply fly straight to the gps location and height of the next waypoint regardless of where it started from. Never would have guessed that would be an issue. Glad to know it now. Will probably save me my own catastrophic failure.

Hello, thanks for sharing this and I subscribe to your channel and gave you a thumbs up. I will always leave avoidance system on.

Question: Hi Russ thanks for your videos they are very helpful. I am wondering what if any benefits to a part 107 pilot of having a drone that is under 250 grams? TIA -Jason

Oh, man I can empathize with you. Last week I was filming my son skateboarding in a parking lot with my Air 3. Only obstacles were some scattered poles for the lot lights. Decided to see what Active Track was all about even though I had no intention on using very much, if at all. Worked really well for about 5 minutes, navigating around the obstacles in bypass mode. Right as I was about to switch back to Spotlight, my son was turning on his skateboard, which caused the Air 3 to make an unusually broad boomerang type of path at probably about 20mph (Normal Mode with pitch, roll, and yaw speeds at factory settings) and slam face first into one of the lights poles, totaled, deleted, unalived on impact. Felt so sick, but knew I only had myself to blame for putting too much trust in the omni sensors and decision-making of the drone. It was covered with Care Fresh, but didn't help with not watching to kick myself in the head. So, yeah. I highly doubt I'll be using Active Track any time soon. Even at a lower speed, I can't trust it. At least not without a massive firmware update. Between Waypoints, Spotlight, and the occasional Quick Shot....I've always I'll ever need to safely pilot the drone.

On the mini 3 pro the OA comes on automatically in return to home even mode if you had it off

Russ, Bad luck brother. You are right though. Don't break your concentration and maintain situational awareness at all times. You said you ordered a replacement. Didn't you get DJI refresh so you could just return the crashed unit? I've never had to use it but I always get it just in case. Hopefully you can send it back. If not you can always box it up and send it to a loyal fan (Like Me). LOL. Thanks for sharing the good with the bad.

Great video and sorry for the loss of your drone. Quick question....if you set obstacle avoidance to bypass, what will happen during the waypoint mission? Will the flight continue and pickup the next waypoint?

@51Drones

9 ай бұрын

It will stop. It ignored bypass, but not off.

So, DJI Refresh is a good idea. Think I'll with the top tier coverage.

A waypoint route can be saved. Is it possible to fly the same route at different times of the year (spring/summer/autumn/winter)? When editing a film, I would like to create seamless transitions from, for example, autumn leaves to snow-covered trees without changing the image section.

I would like to know if you can use the FPV goggles with the mini4 pro

Sorry about that but thanks for sharing. I've never seen a mini arm crack in so many places, is the plastic on the mini 4 pro thinner than that of mini 3 pro?

I have an experience that may share how erratic a crash can be. Years back I took my Mavic Pro for its first day flying in a park that had a large RC flying area. My wife and I parked ourselves under the canopy of a huge tree of which there were several at the perimeter of the RC area for a picnic drone day. On my last battery when it got down to 25% I decided to get a little more out of it and practiced flying around some smaller obstacles about 8 feet off the ground within about 100' from me and then brought it in to land on the table next to me. I guess since it was so close when the early battery low warning went off, there wasn't much time before RTH set at 150' to clear some 100' plus palm trees. It flew straight up under the tree I was under, hit the tree and started flying tilted nearly sideways in a cork screw pattern. I killed it with the controller sticks and it hit a soft fluffy young tree falling trough it to where I could reach it at least 80 feet from where this all started. The cork screw pattern ranged from about 6' to maybe 20' feet off the ground and there were people walking some 50' or so from me in a slightly different direction so it scared the stuff out of me. I had no idea where it was going or when it would stop. It was so fast. It is built like a tank and just needed new props, but it was completely crazy.

@jurnet9

19 күн бұрын

So if your Mavic Pro hit the tree does that mean it did not have obstacle avoidance?

I am sorry for loss as silly as it sounds man. I like how you still turned a negative into a positive.

Waypoint is a great add on but.... I wish you could set a waypoint based on Longitude & Latitude. Example , I had a malfunction with my Mini 3 Pro. Overheated gimbal. In DJI wisdom this caused the drone to land and because of inactivity shut down. this was 4000 ft out up the face of a rocky large mountain, no roads even close. Using find my drone it gave me location of longitude/Latitude. Knowing this it would have been possible to use my Mavic 3 with some sort of hook I could maybe retrieve it.

It's cool, but I love using Litchi for my older DJI. I can plot the mission sitting my desk at home, and just load it once onsite and run it. I wish DJI would release an SDK for the mini drones so applications like Litchi could be used.

What if you had bypass on when doing waypoints like say you dont a waypoint next to a tree and the tree grew or moved cause of the wind does it go around it and continue the waypoint

A good segway on why to purchase the insurance.

Thanks for the video, Russ! Sorry about the drone! This video brings two thoughts to mind. 1) To answer your question...I am new to drones and just got my Mini 3 Pro last Christmas. I am seriously thinking of pursuing shooting professional videos and stills. So although the M4P has a bunch of cool additional features, I feel that I am probably better off looking to a Mavic 3 or later in my future to obtain additional features, more saturated images, and more stable flight in breezy conditions. 2) This begs the question...is that drone not repairable by DJI or is it cost-prohibitive? Thanks!

Are there any backward-compatibility firmware upgrade issues with batteries, with switching between the 3 and the 4 and back?

@aloeisthestuff9622

9 ай бұрын

No.

Have been using waypoints for years on my Spark and Mavic series of drones using LITCHI.. I would assume when you turn off avoidance, that's what it means..

@BillDusty

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, that’s a mystery I would just as soon be left unanswered.