This is a great channel. You should be proud of your accomplishment. A great resource for years to come.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Amelio deangelo, whatever her name is, is now a multimillionaire from shaking her body parts on TikTok. Channels like this deserve wheeey more recognition.

@chadalac1977

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe Craig should shake his beautiful carbon fiber parts on tic tock too.😂 I totally agree with you bud !

Definitely one of the best builds on KZread! I watch a lot of builds and the thoroughness of your vids is second to none!! Thank you!!!!

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks!

Just finding this series now. Honestly even if the parts had been available to buy elsewhere you could still have spent more than that. You did a great job too!

@ThrottleStopGarage

10 ай бұрын

Thanks - it's been a fun time learning.

Have really enjoyed binge-watching all of these great videos of yours! Awesome to see your vision come to fruition! Looking forward to seeing it all come together!

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

Please don't stop uploading, and thank you for all of the awesome tips over the year of doing this.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Long way from done Brad - only a few carbon parts to come but a lot of problems still to face.

Surprisingly that was actually less than I thought it was going to be! I can't wait to see these all go on the car!

I've enjoyed this part of your journey and learned a bunch with you as you've learned. For those of us who really are interested in the infusion process for building composite parts these videos are a really great resource. Thanks for sharing!

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome - glad it's been useful.

I've really enjoyed this series of vids....looking forward to the continuing construction of the Amazon😀

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

More to come!

Love your channel, Craig! Love your attitude, instruction, and sense of humor. It's going to be the coolest old-school Volvo ever. 😁

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Megan! I sure hope it's going to be a decent car when I'm done.

Perfect example of actual carbon parts versus the cheap fiberglass with one show layer of carbon fiber cost wise

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks - I'm so happy that I was able to get good help at critical times and lots of tips from viewers. Really made the project.

Thank you for the break down. Great work, I look forward to watching your on going assembly.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Robert! Still a long way to go.

7:32 - 7:52 I needed that. I’m young. I have a 1977 celica build and no one has any carbon fiber parts. Only fiberglass fenders. I appreciate you very very very much. I’ve seen a few videos but ur videos give me more hope and courage for making my own carbon fiber parts. Keep it up man

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

That's fantastic - glad you're finding the content useful.

Informative, as always. Thanks again Craig. Your enthusiasm for the project is infectious, and apparently unflagging :-)

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gord - having fun is part of the job.

This is only the beginning, folks. There's plenty of good stuff to come!

Way to see it through Craig! I’m really looking forward to all the next phases.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

I'm hoping it moves a little more quickly Chad. The labour in these panels has set me back from where I was hoping to be. I guess it takes the time it takes.

What an awesome accomplishment. Thanks for taking us on the ride 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 😎

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

Sir, you are now on my teaching Things playlist. Thank you for your Content. Keep going and stay healty. Greetings from Germany

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

Absolutely amazing! You really did well on this project my hat is off to you. Well done

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 😀

Thanks so much for your videos. It gave me the push to make my own body parts. I've nearly finished all the molds and hopefully I can pull some parts out of them soonish. But the cost spirals like you say. Keep up the great work 😊

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome - glad that the videos were some help.

Awesome work Craig! Just saw this, will have to go back thru and watch some of your other stuff. Cheers!

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ben - turbobricks blast from the past.

About 50% more than I was guessing but you now have a unique one off project and the satisfaction of building it yourself is well worth it. Just don't figure in your labor cost or it could get ugly. Well done and thanks for this series.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

As soon as I paid the first bill, I knew it was going to cost a lot. I learned a lot and maybe helped a few people out with their dreams. So that's worth it for me.

Soo much dedication and passion has gone into this process an the result looks just great!

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

Great content as always, can't wait to see how the whole car turns out!

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

You and me both!

Thank you for showing this can be done in a garage. I'm doing a rather big build myself and wanted to do some carbon parts that you can't just buy...so I've binge-watched your videos and others to learn the process.

@ThrottleStopGarage

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome - It really can be done. Have fun.

Has it really been two years??? Like you, I've come to value "space" more and more. Great job!

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

I know - I never figured it would take this long. When I look at the project, it's still a long way off!

That is pretty reasonable price range. Specially considering you can't get the parts from anywhere else. Can't wait to see the complete car!

You are an inspiration sir! My wife and bank account might end up Hating you, but I’ll always be a fan!

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 ай бұрын

My wife doesn't read the comments...but I separate church and state...there is a "car" bank account. It's the key to this build.

Great videos and very well made. I live in Australia and buy most of my materials from the UK where it is cheaper and quicker to get delivery. Inflammable items, I have to buy locally. I sympathise with you weather problems. We have hot days here so post-curing is not a thing. I would love to try prepreg but I cannot risk having it delivered. Some idiot will let the CF defrost and I will be the proud owner of a $1000 solid carbon log. If using PVA release agent and you have difficulty removing a part from a mould, high-pressure water works well. Love seeing you get redder and redder as you fight your moulds. Love your work and looking forward to seeing the job completed. Have a happy Christmas.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks - those early efforts were hard because I wiped the release agent a little too much...the grille panel will always fight back with the deep draw. I learned a lot - it's time to face the rest of the challenge.

I have been watching the whole process through your KZread channel. If I have learned anything it is patients and neatness that count more than anything! I'll be watching the rest of your project. Hats off to a project the average DIYer should never attempt!

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

It's a little crazy, but it keeps me broke and busy.

@rickeh100

3 жыл бұрын

Throttle Stop Garage I am building a new garage next spring my goal is to build a carbon fiber bodied original BMC mini with hopefully a K-series Honda engine. I’m hoping 14 x 48 is a big enough garage. And yes I am Canadian as well and the cost of parts are crazy so building it myself is where I’m going. You have truly given me inspiration! And yes I will be broke for the next few years.

Always a great feeling when we pop a carbon panel from the mould, worth every penny as im sure you would agree. Great video Craig, Ian in G.B

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, Ian - it was a lot of fun to put that little montage together.

Mistakes & how to correct them is a big part of this channel's value.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Such an incredible amount of work. Looks awesome.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a ton!

Great job! Have Merry Christmas!☃️❄️

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! You too!

You spoke to my heart when you said that you choose to do spend the money because you want to, not because it makes financial sense. I'm almost finished a CF hood for my 1977 Lincoln Continental...yeah I'm about $3000 CDN deep into a hood for my $1000 CND car. Ohh and I had a cheapo vacuum pump, it let me down.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully it turns out Shawn...I'm glad that I"m not alone in spending money on cars we love and have meaning to us instead of following the crowd.

Awesome job mate cant wait to see it finished

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

You and me both!

Loved the carbon fibre content. Cannot wait to hear those 5 cylinder turbo noises.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Me to! Engine will be this winter I hope.

Congrats on getting this all wrapped up! You make a good example that a little research and some elbow grease at home can yield great results!

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Awesome work

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Oh I remember when you first did this 😂 true garage ingenuity 👌🏾

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to have this part of the build over and onto the next steps.

Man I can't wait to see this come together.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Me to...it's taking far too long.

It ALL makes sense when you get the result you’ve achieved. I’m thinking about the same for an old British roadster in my garage.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent - glad the videos helped. It's not easy, but if you follow the steps, it will work.

Thanks for the clear and honest rundown. Helps me set my targets realistically. Still doin it. :-D

@ThrottleStopGarage

2 жыл бұрын

You got this!

Great work

@ThrottleStopGarage

Ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Thanks for the info. This is truely valuable information.KZread, blogs etc. sometimes seem to distort reality.You see people do these things and everything appears to be light and easy.Materialis available and projects just get finished without problems. Then You're struggeling with Your own projects and constantly ask yourself "what am I doing wrong? It can't be that it takes so long / costs so much money / is so tedious. etc". But You're doing nothing wrong. It's just the way it is. The time lapse of sanding and sanding and sanding simply does not look as if it took three weeks, even if You tell us. And watching someone sanding his fingerprints off is a completely different story than doing it yourself and feeling Your back hurt and the knees burn. For most of the projects I have done,I can say "good,I did not know how much time the would actually take and how much money was needed in the end" otherwise I would probably not have started them. :-)

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

It's easier to tell the real story of the work that goes into parts.

cant wait to see you drive your car. youre getting closer all the time.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lanny - I sure wish it would start to feel like it's closer. I'm at that stage where it's more done than it looks, but it's also that stage where you have to push hard to break through.

What a monumental job! Awesome. Also funny, once I saw that back alley I thought that looks like Edmonton, and then I saw the Alberta plates. Not sure where you're located exactly, but hello from a Canadian in France!

@ThrottleStopGarage

8 ай бұрын

Yes - Alberta but not Edmonton. Always good to hear from fellow Canucks regardless of where you're located.

wow!! that looks like an insane amount of work. I picked um a 66 Amazon just by Edmonton AB, I'm a ways away from finishing body work though! great build

@ThrottleStopGarage

2 жыл бұрын

It is - can't wait to finish it.

great job!

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Congrats on the ending. This has been great watch from the beginning. Amount of work and trash etc is really huge. But at the end it pays off. I hope that you still would decide to do roof and quarterpanels too in carbon.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks - I don't think those parts are really worth it - Still lots of work to go - and a little more carbon in the next episode or two. It's a real struggle right now to get any time in the garage. So it's mostly bits and pieces until the New Year.

This was awesome and as a composite guy and a paint and body guy those came out amazing. Your a hell of a mold maker for sure. Might even want to consider working in it cause seriously 10/10 on the quality. A bit thick on the parts but show quality. I go for 2-3layers on body panels and maybe some foam and an extra if it really needs it 😂. Mine are light and strong but man they dont look anywhere near that good.

@ThrottleStopGarage

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words. I am still learning that's for sure. I understand a lot better now that building these on the thick side has consequences. I was just fitting my trunk panel and I'm going to have to sand the seal area in the end to get everything perfect. You can hit them with a hammer and not harm them though.

sometimes you cannot put the price tag on the hobby when you create something worthwhile. Love it, you might make money on making these for people.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

True - I never planned on totalling the bills but people kept asking!

Good content as always! Thanks!

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

I have learnt so much thank you

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome

"stuff it all in, and take it to the junk yard" yeah it feels like that sometimes lol

@ThrottleStopGarage

Ай бұрын

As long as you don't take the entire car - you're fine. LOL.

Skills and talents : priceless

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

I cant wait to see this thing finished. I would come over and help out but I dont know if a second guy could fit in the shop with you!

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

It's been done - but no one is happy with how close we have to work. LOL.

The total cost isn't that out of hand considering the car will be 1 of 1 built. Many of us stop worrying about the economics of building cars. You're doing something original that will make waves in the future. A year from now you'll have fond memories of every part and the struggle to learn how to do it.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

True. Every little step is a little closer. Nothing you can do to shorten the distance.

I am sure you could recoup the costs by renting out he molds. It could be like the begin of a mold library. Wherein people make their mold, then it gets inventoried with a bar code added to it. Then people can look up for a specific part/mold & find it then get it shipped to them and they pay for the shipping & return it back or hold it till the next person needs it. A open source project that can be setup on a blockchain and the world can not just learn but also share and possibly businesses like Composite Envisions could be sponsors of this blockchain , it could be mutually beneficial. Question is who would like to undertake building this open source blockchain library/inventory system. Thanks for sharing and enlightening us as always.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe in some future universe! More seriously - making panels for other people has zero appeal to me. Sorry - I just hope people can tackle their own projects - it's a tall mountain, but it's possible.

Thanks man u had cleared my vision on cost I would happy to build it in INDIA...Again..thanks for this valuable information u Just shared with us...

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped

moulding is a good skill to learn, leads onto silicone moulding rubber for moulding indicator Lens and plastic parts. good job

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Considering the trunk lid for my 77 trans am is like 2k you did a hell of a job

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

That isn’t a bad deal at all unfortunately all the time it took but that’s what the projects all about and watching you do this was excellent did a great job very professional very enjoyable watching your videos good job man

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

liked & subbed. Yo have a friendly demeanor. Interested in this sort of stuff. Please keep your channel going.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

Love your passion mate! Looking to make some for my V40, its hard to find good ones, and the lift version is 3 times more expensive than pre-lift

@ThrottleStopGarage

Жыл бұрын

Good luck!

Keep up the good work 👍👍

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

You sound a bit sheepish about the price. I know it’s not an insignificant amount and everyone’s financial situation is different, but for the end result, the skills you’ve honed and the great KZread content I think it’s well, WELL worth the money. Truly something to be proud of, and very inspiring.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt. I saved for years to have the money to do the work - but it was the work that mattered.

Thanks..

You do nice work

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great video! As you're handling the parts after the final oven treatment, did you notice that they felt stiffer?

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure you could feel the difference just handling them. They're plenty stiff out of the mold.

For reference, a Tim Mcamis carbon fiber race car body base kit is $11750 us. This is race weight panels that wouldn’t hold up to a lot of street use.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know - thanks.

Informative, thanks.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

These fancy new bedliner type coating they r spraying on or extra thick vinyl raps don't give u a smooth finished & durable look like carbon but cost alot as well. They make magnetic panels prt made out of vinyl u can add to side of truck for added protection but if u had just skinned the spots down the side of 4 by 4 rig might come out better. They need to get carbon material costs down 50% more b4 it has much use besides sporting goods. Diff video guy showed strength of highest grade fiber glass & it blew carbon away cost wise & nearly just as strong, but not as thin or light wt.

you are a great person

This was awesome.. Yea not for everyone, but a few nuts .. (Including me).. I'm researching to make my Motion Sim Rig frame out of carbon fiber for more responsiveness. Power to weight.. Yeah going to do it soon.. thanks for posting my CA friend! DMAX motion simulator Channel..

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, have fun with your project.

@DMAX_DIY

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThrottleStopGarage Yeah I already have making the simulator (works awesome) Just made it lose 40 pounds.. Now on to a carbon upper frame. Appreciate you posting this content my friend! Really helps! DMAX

Awesome! Only bought enough to do some small stuff starting out and I totalled up to $1400 so. You cant just buy just a 1/10th of a vacuum pump so if you're gonna go in... go full in I guess

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

My cheap pump gets really hot and leaks oil (related no doubt). I can run the Gast all day and it's fine.

@lsswapeverything2518

3 жыл бұрын

check out ebay, i see gast's on there going for $100-$200 all the time. Or ask a HVAC company if they have any old ones laying around,.

didnt see any mention of it, but for anyone else using a gas fired heater in their garage, they put out a ton of moisture. Run a dehumidifier while its running. also, carbon monoxide too,

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

True - only using this heater for parts. My environment is so dry, that a little moisture doesn't raise the RH much.

Awesome as always! Cant wait for more.... Can only imaggine how great the engine bulid is going to be

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Funny - the engine just arrived!

'A year's worth of time.... apparently not worth much' 🤣Nope. But priceless at the same time. Anyway what I want to know is... WHAT DOES IT WEIGH!?

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Not much George...Not much. I've saved about 50 - 60 kg in these panels. The difference is you can dance on them - not that I advocate this level of silliness.

@soupclassicmotoring

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThrottleStopGarage They say 60kg in weight reduction is equivalent gaining 10hp. Every time I start to entertain notions of CF bonnet and doors for the Lotus I remember what you had to do to achieve it 😅

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

@@soupclassicmotoring if lost a stone or three - same deal.

Congrats2u! I last watched when u started lol, good to see u did it but did u have to throw the old panels to the tip!?

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I did- they were all cut apart and not worth saving! They also take up a lot of room.

looking forward to see complated car

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Me too!

If you do a carbon fiber Q&A video, what do you think of the idea of carbon fiber floor boards?

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Add Kevlar for abrasion resistance.

Thanks for sharing the cost! Only Canadians know @ the clown money it takes to get parts & materials here in Canada! Crazy! Cheers Doug

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

And the company's that won't sell to Canada and brokerage changes!

@ikocheratcr

3 жыл бұрын

Canada is not alone in this, sadly. Where I live, if I by on Amazon I need to pay a minimum of $15 per package plus 20~25% of bill extra in tax and other things. I once tried amazon prime, for the movie service , and then amazon happily sent me an order of about $150 in like 5 packages. I discovered I cannot have prime in a hard way.

@sidekickbob7227

3 жыл бұрын

@@ikocheratcr Yeah, it hurts! I also live in a place where the shipping often crashes the deal. On the top of this, they collect 25% VAT (which is sort if okay), but they include the shipping cost in the calculation, and they also charges you about 17$ for calculating and charging the VAT bill.... That's crazy! On the other hand, I really enjoy the free education, free hospital, and the safety net providing me a minimum income if I loose my work.. I guess I should not complain. 🤔

Racing tech only or for strength on rare prt u can't get any way else. I am in the rap or skin a every day prt, so not just sheet metal weak or production prt weak door panel. Boating extra strength over plastic & fiberglass might b worth it for some prts of boat but again I am in the skinning camp. No time waste & expense of molds, just cover prt or area u need carbon strength. Sports gear is real market for carbon stuff, bc old stuff will break & new carbon stuff lighter & won't.

I don't know if you talked me out of my ridiculous plans but I'm thinking they're on hold for a while.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

It's a realistic look at the process. It's not as easy or as cheap as I thought originally.

Only $8k? I'm in $15K and counting, not to mention all of my free time for 1 year...all dumped into developing a carbon fiber knee pad. It's a long journey for first time product development, so it's always encouraging to me to follow along with your progress.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

I really don't want to think about the time.

@hagglundguy

3 жыл бұрын

Can you give a good reason for using carbon fiber? I'm not hating, I'm just curious as to why you don't go with kevlar as it's more resistant to wear?

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

@@hagglundguy There is Kevlar in the door panels where it's needed. Nothing here is really a wear risk and Kevlar is more difficult to work with and expensive. It's all about matching physical properties of the material to the use/need of the panels.

@fredygump5578

3 жыл бұрын

@@hagglundguy With my project specifically, I experimented with Kevlar, but I found no use for it. It's disadvantage is poor compression strength, plus it is difficult to work with. In contrast, carbon is easy to work with and versatile. Through a combination of luck and skill, I have designed a part that is extremely light, that has surprising flexibility while retaining rigidity where I need it. I protect the carbon fiber from abrasion with a urethane (rubber) outer layer, so wear isn't an issue. The result is a knee pad that weighs 130g (maybe less...), including straps, buckles, foam padding and all! In short, the carbon is so good there is no reason to add kevlar...but it took me months to figure this out.

@hagglundguy

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThrottleStopGarage I directed my question towards fredy gump. But yes material properties should be taken into account when designing composite products.

What are you planning for side windows and windshield?

@ThrottleStopGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Stock parts will work.

Great!!!

@ThrottleStopGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

Good

great

That's actually a pretty good price considering what I spend on my car in a year lol.

Craig, is that a grill from a MK II Jag I see hanging on your wall?

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Yes - I've had two. The last one went to the junk yard. Long story.

To get the full cure through heating, do the parts not need to be vacuum bagged? Other videos I've seen had the parts in the autoclave while still under vacuum.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

No - that's only for heat cured parts. This is a post cure process to have parts reach their ultimate tensile and flexural strength.

@SS454LS6

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThrottleStopGarage Thank you

I've been curious what it would cost to do a while car, ty.

@ThrottleStopGarage

10 ай бұрын

Not cheap - but this is a realistic cost.

How do you figure out how many layers you need for a given part?

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

At first I talked to Composite Envisions. They made suggestions given the size of the panels. With the doors, I made the composite panels the same thickness as the steel panels they were replacing. With the core - they're many times stronger. So as a start point - begin with the original thickness. Then the rest of the panel shape and purpose needs to be evaluated. None of these panels are structural...that would require more experience and analysis.

Would be interesting to see how a production line setup might look for this stuff. Also, how aviation parts might be a more cost-effective approach for realizing ROI. Now you are an expert, so you want to monetize a little I'd guess. See the mosquito helicopter as an example. BTW - I'd have learned by building a 69 Camaro - a cool car :)

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

It would look a lot different in some respects and similar in others. Multiples of parts would drive the cost per part down, but this is a labour intensive craft. I really appreciate the folks what do this for a living - that's some serious skill. I'll still never make production parts - I'd be hopeless at that (experience not prediction).

The material costs alone justify why most carbon fiber manufacturing is done for aerospace applications. When 3d printers can do CF, the costs will plummet.

@sidekickbob7227

3 жыл бұрын

Mac Oppy; Yes I also see a possible big future in 3D printing/ layup with cf. As Lass kinn informs, there's existing some options of cf printing, but the technology is not good enough. I think a machine feeding a continuous string of cf in the correct 3D pattern, and by adding some sort of quick drying epoxy at the nozzle that would fixate the cf in the correct position, would be able to make big parts with an equal or better strength compared to a mold setup. Also the material consumption would be less with a printed part. I guess such a printed part would need a lot more work after printing, and the supreme beautiful look from the cf weave would not be achieved. Also you would need a 3d model to be able to make the print.

holy shit that price is MASSIVELY blown up compared to here in nz

@hobogreen3750

3 жыл бұрын

i've basically done the same thing but all the while selling the parts im making for myself to fund it, $1700 usd(2500nzd) in and ive already turned a profit since i started at the start of 2020

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting - but that's what it cost. I wasn't shopping price much...I needed a one stop shop. Factor in 30% on the Canadian dollar...I have no time to make parts for others - so it is what it is. No way you could do that job for the price you're quoting in North America.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Cheaper than a lot of other options. I'm not shopping on eBay for carbon and I did spend more on the epoxy. I'm trying to give a realistic look at what this cost for people thinking about tackling a job like this.

@hobogreen3750

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThrottleStopGarage your reply seems a little defensive, i hope you didnt take this the wrong way i was in no way trying to slander your work. Same factors here, i used the best quality products available to me, all from one shop aswell. known as Allnex they are worldwide and a quick google appears they may be located in canada too. They are the only supplier here in nz but i also know they are the #1 choice in australia where they a do alot of fiberglassing for their surfboards, kayaks, canoes, yatchs etc knowledge passed on from my aussie grandfather who has been fiberglassing for his life so maybe give them a call and see if they are local enough.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

@@hobogreen3750 Not defensive - good information. Before I started shopping in the US I was paying $60 - 80 for 4 litres of polyester resin - just the generic stuff. At CE - it's $20 and I should have bought it in a 40 litre kit. 2 X 2 twill generic 3K is $40 a yard in Canada...so if you're like me and not a composite professional and are thinking you're going to do the majority of a car for a few thousand dollars - it would be unrealistic.

What are your thoughts on making parts out of S-Glass instead of carbon? As far as I can tell the weight difference between s glass and carbon fiber shouldn't be huge.

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on what you want. S-Glass is not very common and just about the same price as carbon. A lot of my stuff was done with seconds and sale material.

Man, I was thinking $25k, so congratulations!

@ThrottleStopGarage

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it wasn't in the sort of range...then again, if I made $4 an hour - it'd be close.