I feel the Lat 64 Grace out does them both in that 11 speed slot, but that's just my humble opinion

@Munchylego

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely!

They already have a Surge SS, Surge, and a Scorch 😭

@SwankyDiscGolf

3 ай бұрын

Dude totally forgot about the Surge! I would definitely say the Surge SS and Scorch are a lot more under stable than the Drive, and the Surge is more OS. Same flight numbers as a Wraith but generally I think the Drive is the closest to a star wraith Discraft has gotten.

@martinmartins7703

3 ай бұрын

​@@SwankyDiscGolfI have an older beat in ESP Surge that I use for shots my wraiths are too stable for. It bombs.

@finklesteenDK420

3 ай бұрын

Same plastic though?????

@cappaholic

Ай бұрын

@@SwankyDiscGolfI must have an oddball Scorch then, because mine has about the same flight as my Drive, but the Scorch has more glide and distance.

I recently bought two Wraiths, identical other than color. When I field tested them they typically landed within a few feet of each other and were surprisingly consistent.

@stitch438

3 ай бұрын

Same color? If you're worried about variance in dome/parting line buying the same color will help minimize that, at least in the Innova world. Granted the inventory doesn't span years of runs. And of course if you find that run that you feel is magic, seek out the rest at all costs as it may never occur again. 😆

I was watching your videos and got in the mood to play then saw you playing when I got there lol

But how do they compare to the Franklin Discs albatross?

@SwankyDiscGolf

3 ай бұрын

Doesn't even hold a candle

@damagi123

3 ай бұрын

A tragically underrated contribution to the conversation haha

I think innova is the “least consistent” simply because their molds like the wraith and the destroyer have been in production for so long with so many runs while some molds are much newer.

@danielpenrodii2389

3 ай бұрын

How is a single disc inconsistent just because they offer various kinds of it? Halo Wraiths are beefier than Star Wraiths…everyone knows this, so how does the Wraith get knocked for providing variety?

@gxr0ck

3 ай бұрын

Because there have been so many runs of the “same disc” throughout the years. Anyone who knows innova discs knows that certain runs from certain years are more desirable for a particular flight. Just because you have two brand new star wraiths doesn’t mean they will fly the same. They could very well be different runs and fly very differently

I'm curious to test it against all of the Surge's I own. I bet they are basically the same disc. We'll see.

Might be the beard, or I haven’t watched in a while, But luke you can tell you are putting in some effort to get in better shape man keep it up

Surge came the year after Innova opened the 11 speed slot as a direct competitor just like they released the Force a year after the Destroyer and the Nuke a year after the Boss. Discraft has been trying to copy/compete with Innova from the beginning. They just never were very successful until they signed McBeth and then Covid exponentially grew the number of players.

Congrats on the weight loss

@tbow8954

3 ай бұрын

Honestly insane. Looking super fit. Love to see that

@SwankyDiscGolf

3 ай бұрын

Thanks y'all! Got a bit more work to do 🫡

My ESP Scorch is more stable than my Star Wraith. I think I got a wonky Scorch? I still bag it for a headwind.

They've never been this close to the wraith before? What about the Surge? 11 5 -1 3. Seem familiar?

If the domes are similar then based on the height numbers the Wraith being 1.4 will probably feel better for smaller than average hand size and the Drive being 1.7 in height probably feels better for average to larger than average hand size.

No love for the grace?

yooo how do we get a TFC wraith???

@SwankyDiscGolf

3 ай бұрын

I think they sell them at the book store still!

Antictdottle?

Discraft making a DD3 now?!! Lol

You're getting way more fade out of the Wraith. Do you even watch your flights?

Kinda weird. Between Surges and Scorches you can match discs with any kind of flippy or beefy Wraith.

I’m guessing that the wraith releases better out of your hand because it’s shallower than the drive.

@WaziFux

2 ай бұрын

If you have small hands yes, bigger hands will appreciate the taller dome

I feel seen. 3:51 🥰

Best 11 new speed yes. Best distance driver, I don't know. The Strive is very good.

The Surge is Discraft’s Wraith. Is it not?

@cdubz462

3 ай бұрын

Surge is really os

@curtisridenour

3 ай бұрын

They did not used to be. I had a surge for my main distance driver in Colorado elevation. Someone stole my bag out of my car and then I could never find a similar replacement.

Every company has wild inconsistences; to say Innova has the highest is just picking a company at random.

Not sure why but I feel Like there could be a Discraft Bias in this video.

Not a fan of the plastic regarding grip…I’ll stick to my latitude 64 and Innova star plastic. And too close to other discs we all bag…their late to the show ..

Nothing matches the tern

@Munchylego

3 ай бұрын

The Tern is pretty fantastic, but the “Drive” is a different slot in the bag.

Paige wouldn't even stand up for woman's discgolf NOPE

I dont believe you. Wraith is king. Send me that drive and change my mind.

@SwankyDiscGolf

3 ай бұрын

🤣

@robertmueller1138

3 ай бұрын

It would be cool if you did since my Wraith was stolen by the lady of the lake yesterday 😔. Damn you wind!!!

Wraith is better.