Honestly I don't think there is a channel out there with this type of deep diving. I love six sided discs, and this is the type of information I love to get. Thanks for the research!

@quaxie

8 күн бұрын

deff nothing currently posting, one of the better channels about disc golf. Some older channels had too much science.

@hoff0839

6 күн бұрын

Heyy, DGV homie!

I think you're right. I don't know if you mentioned this but CNC is a great way to prototype for a mold.

The idea of a custom disc set to your dimensions is very appealing

@Munchylego

8 күн бұрын

Could it get on-the-spot PDGA approval? Or maybe the process itself could be approved?

@octogintillion

8 күн бұрын

​@@MunchylegoMaybe all discs you could make within certain specs of every variable could be pre-approved? I have my doubts PDGA would do that tho.

Combine this technology with the robot disc thrower from Simon's video, and TechDisc, and you can have an entire bag designed 100% to you.

@SixSidedDiscs

8 күн бұрын

The future is here!

@theLizardof0z

8 күн бұрын

@@SixSidedDiscs But who will fork up the $$ to make it happen and also make it reasonably priced...?! I don't know many people who will pay $40 for a disc. That 'used to be' the beauty of the game - it was cheap. Now people are desperately trying to profit off the Covid spike and they're driving interest down.

@joeblow2426

8 күн бұрын

As mentioned in another comment, the price should come down as successful discs are mass produced by CNC. If companies like Innova, Discraft, and Latitude 64 get involved this may further lower pricing. As someone else mentioned the CNC cutting is essentially adding another step to the disc making process so the cost will always be higher, unless appropriate plastic could be sold to them in suitable solid blocks to machine at a similar price as the pellets. This would eliminate the molding process. I have no idea if suitable plastic is sold in the required larger size. I imagine ProtoFlyte would have already looked into this.

@mahazroko6753

8 күн бұрын

This is all fine and dandy because it's relatively new (the TechDisc data and the consistent throwing robot) but it makes me slightly worried that the sport might eventually devolve into a pure numbers game, for example that the holes of the future will be shaped so tightly that you have to hit X disc at precisely (plus minus S percent) Y rpm, with Z speed, W nose angle, Q launch angle and T hyzer angle to be able to make it through the gap.

@trev3971

8 күн бұрын

@@theLizardof0z For regular everyday discs, no. But if you're down to your last disc from your favorite run in 2012 and NOS discs are selling on eBay for $100, using CNC to make another batch at $40 a pop is a steal.

as a person who works within the CNC industry, it's only a matter of time before the costs come down for them; we see things like crankshafts and tiny plastic connectors being mass produced from CNC machines all the time - once they figure out what "stock" discs are for them, how many they can reasonably mass produce (or outsource to a lower cost geography), and stand the durability test of time, I would think the only discs that stay at ~$40/disc are their special orders. It will take some time for those savings gained during the prototyping process to be passed to the customer. They may not be the ones to figure it all out, but I have no doubt someone will.

@jannejaakkola5836

7 күн бұрын

I work as a customer for both CNC and molding companies and feel like it's all about volume. The CNC just doesn't scale so if you can produce 100k products, the molding will be way cheaper. It's only if you truly require the precision or don't have the volumes that CNC becomes attractive. While 40$ is high for CNC made disc, I'd counter with "so is 20$ for a molded one". I think it's going to be much easier to drop 50% of the price for molded discs than CNC. Thoughts?

@Peyto23

Күн бұрын

Bro I came down here to say the same thing. And before I even watched the whole video $40 was my guess.

I think a collaboration with techdisc would be huge. Using the data to craft the disc you need for your arm speed, spin, etc. Not to mention the physical aspects of it being able to be designed for better handfeel. Awesome video.

It might be that CNC discs will become more prevalent over time but I think that it's more likely that using CNC during prototyping prior to molding in mass production is even more likely.

@devilselbow

5 күн бұрын

I'd imagine that's what most companies already do.

13:35 this sounds like a great idea, but as the PDGA guidelines stand, it's impossible. For each minor change you make to a disc's dimensions, the manufacturer is going to have to get it approved for use in the PDGA. The idea sounds good in theory, but in practice, it's never going to be able to happen like that, and if it's a selling point the company is going for, it's going to fail, unless the PDGA significantly loosens their guidelines for approved discs.

@adielcerriteno1990

8 күн бұрын

They can just have a line of approved discs they sell. Made in the variations they want. And some prototypes u can’t use in tournaments but u can still buy. Doesn’t sound impossible to me but not easy of course

@Broken_Pixels

8 күн бұрын

That's the first thing I thought when he mentioned taking it to a tournament.

@trev3971

8 күн бұрын

But the guidelines aren't actually enforced, because discs vary wildly from run to run and all fall under the same approval for their given mold. Similarly, discs like the Roc and Buzzz have had multiple mold changes under the same approval. I don't see how the PDGA would argue against tweaks when they don't care that two Innova TLs can have completely different profiles and still be legal.

@Jason-Moon

8 күн бұрын

And 14:06 ... totally custom designed discs couldn't possibly be pdga legal, but I'd love to build a perfect bag like that to see how uber-dialed I could get.

@Broken_Pixels

8 күн бұрын

@@trev3971 they're not enforced until someone complains, odds are most wouldn't, but I wouldn't take the chance at a b/c tier to get stroked or possibly dq'd because someone wanted to win that badly. There's a pretty big difference between comparing pdga approved innova molds and cnc molds that aren't, however I'm pretty sure their current stuff is legit, moreso for tweaking discs to all possibilities, perhaps they'll find a way around it if they take off

They might have overlooked something; if there are internal stresses in the blanks they are using, these stresses will be released when processed in a CNC machine, resulting in variations in the finished products

@Migrean

6 күн бұрын

It's definitely a factor. Still, I would expect the effect to be less than a normal injection molded disc, as the larger blanks would cool slower, which should result in less thermal stress. I'd also go out on a limb and say that throwing the disc into a tree a couple times probably warps it more than that anyway.

@cupbowlspoonforkknif

5 күн бұрын

They should have already encountered this problem and come up with a solution. Metal can be annealed to relieve internal stresses so I imagine plastic can be too.

Incredible video, so proud that you covered a topic like this and are a native to our area!

See if you can get a prototype where they go nuts with that inside angle on the grip. A envision it as almost a hollow wing, it'll redefine weight distribution in drivers with premium plastic

Added this video to favorites. I was psyched when I saw this. I start following them when the CNC got approved. I'm not on the ambassador team. This is also my favorite KZread channel. It's a good day

Such a great and informative video! I appreciate the great insight... and what they're doing is amazing! Keep up the great work!!

Great video! Just ordered one.

Other variables are, different lot numbers on the plastic material. Dwell time on the mold. Clamping pressure. Regrind mix. Outside temperatures. Season of the year. If the mold is dirty or ready to be changed and cleaned. Are the exhaust gas ports clogged or dirty. A difference of which machine is running that mold at that time. There’s a lot of variables in the injection molding business. I have done it for years.

As a cnc machinist I say it's way too expensive and still lots of varibles when machining the plastic. Just watch the video and you will see the disc wobling a lot when it spins on lathe. Also if they drive to the course and machine while waiting I'm pretty sure the price is not 39,90 ;)

Might have to try one of these out. This is interesting and im all for it!

The reason why they can do the inverted rims and the injection molders can't is that the latter can't get the disc to pop out of the mold without significantly bending the disc outwards.

@cupbowlspoonforkknif

5 күн бұрын

I thought so. This opens up lots of different design possibilities for discs! Infinite possibilities. Maybe we'll see a new iconic disc in the next few years.

@myopiczeal

4 күн бұрын

There are more complex molds that will allow the inverted rim, but they're even more expensive. The inner mold is comprised of several sections that can retract to allow the disc to be ejected without distortion.

So what you're saying is, I can have my own signature series disc without being sponsored!?

You did great job on this video, very professional looking, and sounding, and your lax speaking, is perfect tempo.

The dimensions aren't the only variable in flight. The plastic polymerization is a random process but this is very cool especially the inverted rim

This will take us into getting fitted for a bag of discs the way you do for a set of clubs. Super rad!

Thank you for doing this video. I saw that CNC had molds on PDGA's approved disc site and was super curious!

great video. Just a correction. A lathe has a spinning block of material and the cutting tool moves as the video showed. A milling tool can have a moving cutting bit or it can be stationary and the object to be milled moves 6:21

cant wait to see you guys tackle the 3d printed discs

You sorta miss identified a cnc mill. Most mills have the spindle stay stationary only going up and down in Z axis, while the table holding the work piece moves in side to side in X and front to back in Y. This is waaay more stable and rigid.

Your video is one of the best most organized and professional informative videos for disc golf I recently remember. For that ? You gained a subscriber. Well done and I agree 100% I’ve been saying it since I started disc golf CNC production of discs is the obvious answer to the best quality most consistent discs. But it’s going to be expensive

Great, great, cutting-edge, deep-dive topic and analysis! Best DG video I’ve ever seen!! Great work, Greg. You called it: CNC machining IS the future of disc golf. Is there an awards show for “Best DG Reporting”? You would win it hands down!

Pretty insane concept and I agree it’s going to change discs eventually. So many creators out there making poor effort videos. Great quality video, thank you man!

Great breakdown of the manufacturing process, I didn’t expect that from this video! I have a CNC- and it is truly a great disc. The plastic has a great feel in the hand and my noodle arm can bomb it about 300ft. I will get the midrange when it comes out!

Great video! First I've heard of this.

I love this for the game. I can't tell you how many times I have bought discs wanting an understable slot and what I received was beefier than my straight flyer spot. Due to a wrist injury I can't forehand further than about 100ft with about 300 rpm (according to techdisc) so I need different speed understable discs to give me that right turning shot that doesn't come back left. I have regularly spent $60 - $100 buying molds that their numbers say I should get what I'm looking for and do not get what I want. For example I have a Meteor that goes left harder than my Buzzz and Shark also my Shark flies much straighter than my Buzzz does despite the #s again not backing that up. This is also why I started watching the Flight Numbers Don't Matter series.

@kimmomatikainen1843

8 күн бұрын

Paradox and Diamond. Rollo might be the only extremely understable disc that Innova makes. I have never thrown it so I am saying that based on what I have heard.

@Motorboatasaurus

8 күн бұрын

@@kimmomatikainen1843 I've got Paradox and Diamond. Diamond is probably my favorite disc. My friend has a Rollo and I tried it and it is too understable for me I can only roll it which I guess does mean it lives up to its name. My Shark is about 13 years old and DX so I'm trying to find a modern replacement in a premium plastic for it because I'm thinking it is a few good tree hits away from cracking. That thing has gone right since the day I bought it while if I slow it down a little it goes 200+ ft dead straight and I cannot find anything else like it. Probably at about $300 so far trying to find a new one.

Great video!

This is great, I’m a cnc machinist and have tried a few times to make a disc but can’t get wing profile correct. We have one we use that’s aluminum for our weekly buddy round that is a first place trophy.

Thanks for sharing and making this video! Been playing disc golf for about 3 1/2 years now and finally, "runs" make more sense to me because of your explanation, so thank you for that, too!! This is pretty dang neat. I think there's certainly a future of disc golf where this becomes more prominent. Maybe a tad more expensive and not as widespread as injection molding, but I think it's so cool to be in a sport that's young enough that new things like this come along and can just add more complexity (and accuracy) to it.

Good Stuff!!

Does mould density change with cooling conditions? I would imagine that even though the shape and size of these CNC discs are consistent, the density of the disc will be different. But maybe this isn’t a big problem?

Wow this is exciting

Oh my lord, i need that cnci. That looks so useful for sidearm throws

I pre-ordered the CNC- (slightly less stable version of the CNC) and have had it for a few months now. The hand feel is incredible. The lack of injection-mold-related imperfections was immediately apparent. For my very amateur self, the consistency is not worth the price. However, if I were frequenting the MPO category in tournaments, I imagine this would be a game changer.

Great stuff here! Keep up the excellent work. How about the plastic density?

This was really cool video

the problem with the custom cnc tooling is that it wouldnt be sanctioned approved. but this is really freaking sweet

I see 3D Printed discs become more common as I see this version of CNC having a flaw in needing to carve out disc molds from big pieces of plastic not really used by many companies making only recycled plastic except Trash Panda and one in Pasific Northwest USA who is Claiming to melt used shore plastic down for use in pellets. I do see some companies using ideas for quick tests before a mold is made in CNC using negative of disc dimensions. I see molds going CNC so a redo can be made again in exact specifications for a company. CNC is how Discmanina was able to make a very similar disc of all old molds they used from Innova only making just a hair off so mold flew the same but was not a clone waiting for a lawsuit. Mainly Issue came because of Innova unwilling to look for a new plastic company when Innova eventually had to get a new supplier for plastic because company Innova was using for plastics going into Champion/Glow Champion, Metal flake Champion, and Star/G-Star was no longer operating, shut down due to stress and Corona Virus in 2021.

I agree the idea of the same disc people will buy.

In my opinion, the only way we'll see companies choose CNC over injection molding is if a CNC machine specifically designed for machining plastic parts comes to market, significantly reducing the initial cost. This way, similar to a 3D print farm, you could have multiple machines creating hundreds of discs or more per day.

Been talking about cnc discs foe a while. They figured out how to hold them without warping! Kudos. Now we just need the flying ring to be made and accepted for that big dog 1000 ft. Driver. Thankyou andYour welcome. 👋😎✌️

As a machinist, I can see the pros and cons of CNC discs. Putting an internal bevel on the rim could be a game changer and you simply can’t do that with injection molding. Plus, prototyping is so much easier. If you want to see the differences in a nose radius on the edge of .062” instead of .100” it is literally a click of a button in the CAM software. The downside is you lose the economy of scale. Injection molding is much much faster-less consistent, but faster, and that translates into price. I could totally see the makers switching to this sort of production to dial in precisely what their sponsored players want, and then make a mold from that for general sale. Once someone figures out a cost effective way to apply a mechanized solution (I.e. robotics for loading blanks, etc) then it may be suitable for production, but I would still expect $40-60 to be the price point for a disc *exactly* how you want it.

How would customized disc dimensions work with PDGA approval? Would each new disc variation need to be approved before use in a sanctioned tournament?

The blanks will definitely vary, and removing a ton of material isn't gonna magically change that. They will vary from run to run just like other discs

This is really cool, have you heard from other manufacturers on whether they want to implement CNC production methods?

Very interesting. Seems like that in the future we will get “fitted” for a bag of discs just like golfers get fitted for a bag of clubs. Exciting stuff.

As a CNC lathe operator, avid disc golfer, and Gateway enthusiast i gotta get my hands on one of these.

Funny I was just talking about this with my buddy. Dint know a company was making them

Thes videos are absolutely amazing in how they are informative, approachable and entertaining at the same time. My biggest question with the custom disc service is the PDGA approvals. How fast can they get the approvals and is there any way that could be extended to these personalized variants? In addition to the approvals, I have a big concern with the cost. With CNC the cost is more or less fixed. Whether you make one or one million discs, it will still take that same x minutes to produce one, so there is no scaling. With molding, the starting costs are high but the more you produce the less of an impact the mold cost has on the product. If CNC companies start to pop up, it's going to be really easy for molding companies to discount their prices and still make profits. I bet one disc from molding will not cost more than 2$ to produce so there is a lot of air there. Finally the absolute accuracy is a bit misleading. Once you bag the disc, it will never be absolutely the same. Every single throw changes it so even if you start from the same point, you can't just replace the one you lost and think it will be now covered for years to come (unless you order a new one for every round). So having bunch of discs with some variation is actually what most players look for. In any case, this is a really interesting "invention" and looking forward to seeing where they end up.

I got this video recommended right after watching Simon Lizotte throwing a machined aluminum disc so I was expecting something very different 🤣

As a process Engineer, very interesting but a few questions: Can you reduce cost by automating the CNC machines to build custom discs JIT (Just in time) to reduce excess material/production costs? Also, with the custom discs how does that get PDGA approval? Love the idea but to be competitive, need to reduce cost by doing something closer to JIT, therefore they only manufacture the discs ordered.

Well; I bit the bullet, and ordered the whole set of 4: +, -, "null" and i versions. With your discount code, that came in at $188 CAD delivered, or $47/ disc. That's actually not all that bad, considering they're nearly prototypes, and that more players than just myself will get to try them and wring out the paces. They'll get well used by several player skill-levels, and thoroughly sampled. Thanks so much for the video, the content in general, and of course, the code. Keep up the good work and bringing us the Disc news from all over the industry and sport.

I have an NSH 3D printed disc. I wonder how much faster/slower it is to 3D print vs CNC. 3D printers are pretty cheap. Impressive innovation!

If you buy the 3 pack with discount code it's like getting a free disc. $80 for all 3. Pretty cool..

Very cool! For rapid prototyping of an injection-molded disc, I have found 3D printing is also a great alternative. It is cheap and easy to set up, but the quality isn't as good as those CNC discs!

Just ordered the two-pack after watching this!

I preordered one of the prototypes about six months ago and asked them all to sign it. I of course wont throw that one but it does feel pretty dang good. My best description would be, it feels like a domy DX Destroyer. I want to buy a thrower, but a little worried about the durability at $40. Anyone else put this disc to a stress test? On a side note, I love that this company is right here in my home town, OKC. I wish them the best!

Imagine you walk into a store and they hand you a tech disc and say go throw this and tell us about the shots you like to throw, how big your hands are, what’s comfortable etc. You try out some examples, throw in a field a couple times. A computer or engineer then takes that data says thank you, your driver line up will be ready for you in a week. You go back and you have custom discs overstable understable neutral all feeling similar and exactly as you like, a forehand disc, and the speeds that you throw. And there’s a file with your name on it so they can recreate your discs whenever you need more.

You can perfectly seal a mold. The gap is left intentionally so you can easily see when a proper amount of plastic was injected. You know how tires have those little rubber hair like things sticking up everywhere. Those serve the same purpose.

I'm not sure if you mentioned surface finish. This might matter most to those of us who like to use a "fan" grip for some throws (I like to use a "fan" grip for putt, approach, and even some fairway shots). I think this could theoretically be done with injection molded discs also, but a CNC turned disc could have a different surface finish on different surfaces of the disc. At least different "zones" (as measured from the rotational axis of the disc) could have different surface finishes. And the top surface could have a different surface finish than the bottom surface.

The precision potential is 🤯.

How do you get different weights?

feel like this would be a good line for disc manufacturers, like if i could get a cnc machined eagle from calvins beat in eagle, id pay a premium for it

Conceptually this is a huge game changer. If there aren't unforeseen issues. Combine this with the new disc throwing robot and we could have some seriously accurate flight numbers with seriously consistent performance from disc to disc. We'll see. I'd be happy to pay more to really know what I'm getting. These people should get in contact with the disc robot guy immediately.

The customization is endless. Hopefully the PDGA doesn’t ruin the Fun

@kimmomatikainen1843

8 күн бұрын

Those customized discs won't be PDGA approved so you can throw those, but not in PDGA sanctioned events.

Big thanks for the video, learnt a lot from it! ps. Innova is perhaps the worst "offender" when it comes to mold stability. Albeit, Discraft comes as a close second (see e.g. all the damn versions of Flick around). I for one welcome this development.

I'm interested in the custom disc program, however, I still have a lot of questions. What about lighter discs, say I want a 165g or a 155g? Also, does a disc with different plastic blends, cut exactly the same, fly exactly the same? Or do the different plastics just cool slightly differently in the same mould therefore giving them different fly characteristics?

It's funny because this is the key to making "flight numbers MATTER" LMFAO between the Bot that Simon got to face off against and this manufacturing type we can accurately make flight numbers a consistent and real system that people can count on

Call me crazy but I think that run inconsistency is good for business

@ioweutube2

8 күн бұрын

I think it depends on what you mean. Inconsistency can be really bad. The golfers want to get the disc they ordered. Ordering a DD3 and not knowing if it's gonna be massively overstable or understable is incredibly frustrating. Needing to wait for people to get them and try to figure out which color is (supposedly) more or less stable is bad for the sport I'd say. Now, if the manufacturers notice the difference and can actually market that difference, that is actually useful. Either if the entire run is different, or if they can at least separate the outliers where it's a significant deviation in dome or w/e and make that clear to the public without us having to dig in forums for it. The interesting part of the CNC business is that they can create run variance at will, and then it's also incredibly clear to the consumers WHAT the variance will be!

This is of course very typical for many kinds of products. Simpler versions are produced cheaply in high volume for the average consumer, while high-end versions are produced in less volume using more time consuming and more flexible methods, like machining. The latter are higher quality, more precise, often custom made, but naturally costlier. Each method fills a space, but the challenge for the high-end alternative is typically to hit a marked big enough to make it commercially viable; usually the price needs to be higher than any marked is willing to pay. The customizability and wider design flexibility is certainly interesting, but I think what is more interesting is that if they avoid injection moulding completely and create the blanks another way, you open up a lot of other material choices.

How would them making a disc to my exact specifications work when it comes to being PDGA approved?

Very cool, but I think you're still overselling the precision/accuracy a bit. Getting blanks from an injection mold will still lead to slight changes in the density of the plastic and even if cut to the exact same shape will fly slightly differently. They will also still beat in over time and change the flight characteristics. The customization is really the coolest thing imo

As a cnc machine operator , I approve.

I’m interested! 😅

Big manufacturers are not going to go to CNC for mass production. A subtractive process like CNC is way too time consuming to be profitable. I would highly doubt the time comparison is accurate because they are likely molding multiple discs at a time. It sounds cool, but will likely be a niche product at best.

Greg you would be great in some kind of scientific tv show, like a How it’s made

I kept waiting to see the cost. As I suspected, these are substantially more expensive because you are adding an entire step into the process of making a disc. While it is true prototyping could be faster (which is where I really see them getting used), this slower production time would far outweigh the benefits in my opinion. This is exactly why I don't see them taking off. $20-25 is already a hard pill to swallow. $40 is pretty steep. I understand that costs could possibly work their way down with time but this is too much money discs. At the end of the day, most discs fly how I'm expecting them to fly (given their plastic type). While some companies seem to be more consistent than others, we have plenty of great options at the much cheaper price. With that said, I can see professionals using them. They aren't paying for their discs after all. Simon himself has said that he loses around 2-3 discs every time he plays Maple Hill for casual rounds. Players like him would love the consistency provided by this and the cost is a non-factor.

@jackdhammer

8 күн бұрын

All good points.

Bro!!! Great bleeping video!!!! Love the way you roll. This is HUGE. I'm in the CNC industry and totally agree this is a game-changer. I'm getting behind these guys immediately. And before long, my entire club will be throwing these. Keep up the good work. Much appreciated. You got a new sub for this one. Cheers!

How does this plastic hold up to elements and tree strikes?

the future is additive, not subtractive. you can reproduce even more exact conditions with 3d printing. I have 4 3d printers, and also own some subtractive tools like a lathe and a mill. a 3d printer with a temperature-controlled enclosure is much more consistent.

Just ordered thanx for the discount i am fascinated by the concept

I wonder if they'd be able to clone a disc. Maybe some sort of 3D scan and then cut to reproduce.

@SixSidedDiscs

8 күн бұрын

Sounds likely!

@mahazroko6753

8 күн бұрын

I had an idea of making brand new beat-in discs. Imagine being able to buy a new yet already well seasoned KCPro Roc (or a Destroyer, or any disc that flies well when beat-in) mold with all the dings and scuffs already there, but in extra durable premium plastic that would last you a very long time.

it's $10 more than a limited edition disc, and with this code it's on par with one. not that bad of a price point for perfection

I have been waiting for this discussion being that I play disc golf and work in the field of manual lathe and CNC production. Costs would be so expensive but if you want that new technology Taylor Made ball golf driver to boost your game you’re going to have to pay for it, right?

Do you think cost will come down? I remember when full hdtv 50” was $600-700. Today you can get the same for $250-300

When’s the comparison coming out????

This sounds like the future of big manufacturing prototypes

I'm surprised they can produce them for $40. And while molds cost money, CNC setup is very pricey. The other issue will be getting the pdga to sign off for use in competition. I think that could be done but would not some additional rules in the technical standards. That would likely impact custom discs produced onsite or in general.

Cool... but, well, CNC machines wear out too... so your machined copies aren't necessarily identical. That's where the time goes too: maintenance. Traditionally CNC is better suited for manufacturing complicated and costly objects than plastic plates that can be manufactured super cheaply using other processes. You could use CNC machines in combination with casting: cut that angle inside the rim and remove flashing. Less wasteful than cutting a disc completely out of some blank. I'm also wondering if some post heat shaping could be used for discs - because you can remove bumps at home with just hot water and some weights.

The fact that they're partnering with the biggest plastic nerds out there in Gateway is a match made in heaven. Very excited to see how these pan out!

I bet that molds will be prototyped on CNC, but this isn't sustainable for mass production. There are a few things they can do w/ CNC that just can't be done with molds, which may be interesting, like the inverted rim, since it would not release from a mold, but I bet this never breaks into mainstream production. I wish them success in working with manufacturers to do prototypes before making molds however.

Hopefully the pdga will give some sort of blanket approval as long as cnc cut discs fall within certain dimensions.

@SixSidedDiscs

8 күн бұрын

They are all approved so far: www.pdga.com/technical-standards/equipment-certification/discs?manufacturer=303579

@Joellivin

8 күн бұрын

@SixSidedDiscs thanks for the reply, I was talking more about the future possibilities of more custom discs that the customer can tweak slight dimensions of to get the exact desired flight. Altitude players (I'm in the Denver area) come to mind. If the pdga views each of these slight differences as a different "mold" then approval could be a nightmare.

@kimmomatikainen1843

8 күн бұрын

@@SixSidedDiscs But if they make customized discs on order, those won't be PDGA approved and that doesn't matter if it is not used in PDGA sanctioned event. Could make the weirdest bag ever for fun rounds.

@mahazroko6753

8 күн бұрын

Well, a disc having to be PDGA approved is done so that all the discs don't exceed (or are less than) a certain dimension, weight, rigidity and have a specific wing profile (have i missed something?). Out of those four you could theoretically only change the wing profile and otherwise have the same, standardized disc shape (there is a bit more to it i know, but still) that would fall under the confines of the rules. I doubt the PDGA would be willing to budge too much, there is money to be made with discs approvals, but perhaps they would be willing to meet them half way or something. I mean as long as the discs are safe (i think the rigidity requirement is there because of that) and don't exceed the maximum weight and dimensions (diameter, height, rim width) i don't see a reason not to open the whole thing to experimenting.

Very similar to how a Professional Golfer has his irons, bent, weighted, lofted to his exact swing. I can 100% see pros at this level.

Gateway reusing the cut material is awesome. Well done CNC/Gateway!