What do you think? Am I being too harsh or not? I think this changes a lot when it comes to RTSP. Will you keep the new firmware or revert back to the main one without RTSP?

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha well not to the chopping block though.

@glasser2819

4 жыл бұрын

once the cameras streams are recorded on a NAS... there is no need to mess with further firmware updates. The people that are using these cams for home automation triggering will enjoy many software updates and the learning curve associated with all new features. These devices represente the new quality grade China has reached with automation! Amazin'

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

Very true, and hope it will become something possible but I don’t see this happening anytime soon.

@Resonance_Of_Life

4 жыл бұрын

It does say there will not be updates if you read the download page! Now personally I feel like they went out of there way to make this feature available at all. Its not listed as a feature of the camera anywhere , so I am thankful that they even made it! This also shows they actively support their product , with many companies your lucky to even get bug fixes let alone updates!

@chrislee1615

4 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure i understand what we are losing out on. Wyze has a long way to go with their software. For me, I’m thinking of moving all 10 of my cameras to RTSP because of how bad wyze motion detection is

Skip to 4:00 minutes where he actually talks about RTSP

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

Tom M yup, talk about the Max Drive first then RTSP.

@tonytfuntek3262

4 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU !!!!

@georgeplagianos6487

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for cutting to the chase

It’s disappointing, but not sure how this is surprising- it’s right in the Wyze instructions on setting RTSP up, and in every other YT video I’ve seen on the subject for the last month.

I love your channel! But to be fair, I don't think Wyze hid this in the fine print. In fact, in your previous video about how to set up RSTP, you jumped right over the "Will RSTP continue to be developed?" section. It's the first section, right before the "How to set up RSTP" section. Now, I agree that they didn't put it in red, bold, ALL CAPS letters, but it was there in plain sight.

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah now that I went back and looked at it, you are correct. Just guess with the excitement of the announcement and wanting to do it.

Wyze did make it clear that the RTSP firmware wouldn't have a lot of the features that the mainstream firmware has and that it probably wouldn't be updated in the future. Probably because I followed the RTSP process on their forum.

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

Like I said they didn’t make it very main knowledge, yes it was in the fine print but you had to really look for it. Still falls on me for not reading it all over.

Um hello this is the first thing to read before downloading from the website: Will RTSP continue to be developed? We don't have the resources to keep developing two branches of firmware for Wyze Cam v2 and Wyze Cam Pan. This means that the RTSP branch will be upgraded infrequently. Using the RTSP firmware will prevent the camera from supporting any future functionality additions, such as A.I. for Human/Animal/Vehicle recognition, event video tagging, further stability improvements, and bug fixes. The currently available firmware is an updated beta version. This contains improvements over the prior version, but still has potential to include minor stability issues. Once we're in a position where we can confidently say that any present issues have been fixed, we'll push out a release version of the firmware.

@Dustysa4

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed... He ran into that situation eyes wide open without fully understanding it.

So you’re disappointed in not being able to get features and updates that don’t even exist or are even roadmapped yet? Wouldn’t it make sense to worry about this when the time comes where being on the RTSP firmware track? Having to branch coding isn’t uncommon

I setup RTSP and it works.. but the video looks like in slow motion and it skips frames a lot. I have an ASUS RT-AC68P connected using Ethernet and the Wyze cam is about 8 feet from the router... any suggestions is to why this is happening.. I guess not having video feed at all is worse, but the video is so choppy and takes so long is not worth it.

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Do you know what the speed of your internet is? The upload and download speed?

I don't know what the maxdrive is or the rtsp?

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Not a problem, check out the other videos on my channel. It explains both the MaxDrive and what RTSP is.

It's a feature that probably was asked for a lot. So they brought it to pass. They didn't have the resources to continue both firmware versions for what ever reason. I didn't update for the reason of not getting updates. I read the info about not getting updates. As they say buyer beware. So those that did the rstp should have read the warnings.

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Very true.

Hi, does anyone know if you can access the rtsp from OUTSIDE the local network? I assume it requires some port forwarding to make the camera visible from outside, did anyone try if it works?

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

No, it specifically says that you have to be on the local network. You could use a VPN or something like LogMeIn to remote access your local network, but you'd have to be on that same network to view the RTSP.

@bicivelo

3 жыл бұрын

You can. You need to open the external ports and forward appropriately. There are docs on Google. The wyze verbiage is not very clear.

Whew! I was afraid you were going to tell me that the camera bursts into flames after installing RTSP. Or that RTSP doesn't actually work, or something. Since RTSP is a specialized task-specific feature, useful mainly to DIYers, tinkerers, or other targeted purposes, I don't care that it is off the mainstream of firmware updates. If I want to repurpose the camera back to being a normal Wyze cam I can easily do that, so it's not an issue for me.

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

That’s very true, and it is nice that they have full details on how to go back and forth on your own, you aren’t stuck with it once you install it.

It's on you. You're an adult with kids... Slow your roll and RTFM.

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Huh?

@123bugness

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrossTechnology I think Dusty is basically saying you are the reason you didn't know it was a separate branch and would not be updated frequently. It was the first thing you should have read but skipped over, and to pretty much quit complaining and don't react so negatively, so quickly. You have kids, you should know how to calm down and count to 10, lol. RTFM...I'm pretty sure you know what that means. (Read The F*^&$ing Manual) Anyway, that's just my interpretation of what he said.

@bjl1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@GrossTechnology RTFM = READ THE F%$# MANUAL !

Love Wyze products but RTSP did not perform well with Blue Iris so I reinstalled original firmware. I don't think they hid the fact that RTSP was going to limit future features. I'm finding limited range with the Wyze Sense products, but love the motion and door sensors. Bottom line: great value for the money spent. Hope they continue to innovate.

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

I totally agree, I think they are one of those companies that just keep making the best products.

@DonDove

5 жыл бұрын

It performed well on Blue Iris for me. I am curious about your issue.

@quaternion-pi

5 жыл бұрын

@@DonDove The Wyze cam disconnects several times a day (unreliable stream) from Blue Iris (BI). All of my other BI cams are POE ethernet ip cameras. Only a very small number of WIFI cams can be added to BI because of WIFI congestion. If Wyze cam either supported 5Ghz Wifi or if they could be connected via POE ethernet I would be willing to pay twice the price. But the Wyze products are a great value and I hope they continue to innovate.

Forgive my ignorance but why can't Wyze simply allow you to direct the file storage to any device on your network including any existing NAS you may have or a new NAS you may buy for the purpose?

@Actiontiles

5 жыл бұрын

Because Wyze doesn't want to offer consumers a way to avoid their inevitable RMR (recurring monthly revenue) options for expanded cloud storage). Low margin hardware is not Wyze's business model. These cameras and sensors are Trojan Horses to up sell subscriptions in the future.

I enjoy the feature and I look forward to when Wyze has an update in order to view on multiple components and Until they do I'm sticking with the RTSP. I Really need this to be available for my Laptop and fire tablet and enjoy the updates when they are available.

Can you provide sample video recordings such as motion detection and recording at FullHD resolution using RTSP in Beta Firmware? if feasible I will buy a Wyze cam product and replace the firmware with this Beta version.

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

I will be doing more videos in-depth with these and it will include that. So keep an eye out for that.

@jordantea2235

4 жыл бұрын

Great. Thanks

Great presentation style. I like you. Good vibes and good content. Best wishes to you and yours.

They did it this way because they want to sell a service, WyzeCam plus, and don't want to support people using RTSP, which doesn't make them any money. I am disappointed with this as well, but feel that Wyze did disclose this on their website and support page for RTSP. My complaint now is that I can't seem to get RTSP firmware installed on my V2 Black cameras.

@GrossTechnology

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, now that we are a bit ahead in the future you are right, that is probably the reasoning behind it. Why are you having issues? Not flashing correct?

@alikuddah

3 жыл бұрын

get an 8gb sd card or try different sd cards.

What would an alternative camera be that would do rasp?

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

Reolink has some good options as well as a lot of real security cameras not “smart” ones.

@ami75517s

4 жыл бұрын

@@GrossTechnology arrrg is there anything like wyze pan cam that I can also stream to youtube? I like the ability to set up pan zones...

Great Video! What are your thoughts about "BlueStacks" and PC/Mac viewing of Multiple Wyze cameras?

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

It works, I just hate all the ads that it comes with. Don’t think it’s fishy, as far as I can tell, but it does get annoying with the junk on there.

@joeymahn449

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry, "tinyCam" running on BlueStacks on a Mac for multiple Wyze cam viewing on a PC.

As one who has dealt with Xiaomi IP cameras from way back (as in back when they were collaborating with Yi) it's not surprising that Wyze isn't exactly flush with resources. The Wyze cameras are just Xiaofang/Dafang cameras with custom firmwares and patent licenses for them to sell in the US.

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

Yup, I have a video in the works talking about that.

What about rtsp with open ip and motion eye that has motion tracking and all that fancy stuff

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Nope not in this firmware.

@PlastiForge

5 жыл бұрын

Gross Technology flash with open ip

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

I'll stick with the normal firmware.

alguien podria decir cuales son las nuevas actualizaciones? y si Max drive si saldrá o se quedo solo en el tintero?

@JeryRivera

5 жыл бұрын

Básicamente la compañía con la que estaban cooperando para sacar el MaxDrive está usando sus recursos (personal, equipos, etc) para otras cosas y al no tener suficiente personal para cubrir todo han decidido pausar el desarrollo del MaxDrive y dedicarle sus recursos a algo más que aparentemente es mas importante para ellos.

@tavocisneros8925

5 жыл бұрын

@@JeryRivera pfff qué mala onda, oye pero no sé si en wyze tenga una opción como las xioafang que almacena sus videos en un HD conectado a la red local

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

No, lamentablemente, MaxDrive iba a ser esa opción para grabar o guardar las imágenes en una red HD.

@tavocisneros8925

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrossTechnology porque no haces revisiones de las Xiaomi tambien son camaras buenas.

@gian1000

3 жыл бұрын

Este video es ridiculo. Las camaras cuestan casi nada, trabajan excelente, pero la gente quiere mas cosas sin pagar nada a cambio.

When new Wyze update are released is it possible to just erase all firmware on the camera and reload with the updates and then load RTSP again?

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Not simply with a button click. You have to go through and reflash it to the original firmware, then it will get the updates from there. I have a video walking you through that process as well.

cant we just re-install the original firmware?

@GrossTechnology

3 жыл бұрын

Yup you are exactly correct

What is rtsp?

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Stands for Real Time Streaming Protocol. Check out the video right before this one on my channel, it explains what it is.

@bjl1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@GrossTechnology WHO CARES ABOUT REAL TIME STREAMING? I DON'T HAVE TIME TO SIT AND WATCH LIVE VIDEO OF SOMETHING. I HAVE TO WORK FOR A LIVING.

@FlexibleToast

3 жыл бұрын

It's a protocol, it doesn't mean you have to watch it real time... It allows it to interact with other management software like Zoneminder or Shinobi CCTV using a common protocol instead of being locked in to whatever Wyze offers.

ISpy and others have motion detection and license plate reading ect all built in to the software why would u need those features when u can turn them on in the NVR APPs

@GrossTechnology

Жыл бұрын

Wyze doesn’t have a NVR.

Your presentations are excellent. Thanks for getting to the point and explaining. Hell, I always agree with you so there. I don't see why if we're streaming to the WYZE app on the phone why you can't do the same thing on the PC/MAC? Or am I misunderstanding? I have a stock WYZE cam purchased a few days ago. Follow up on this! Thanks! (grr, Wyze guy eh?)

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

Haha yup! I don’t quite get it either. Some part is privacy and security but still.

How does this guy not have more subs? Subscribe you guys! He's one of the few bigger guys on KZread that doesn't lie or try to sell you bs crap. This dude's legit 💯

I did read the instructions and realized the limitations to replacing the firmware. Because of the limitations, I will not be installing the RTSP functionality to my cameras and hope it gets added to the main firmware. In my humble opinion, blaming Wyze for not fully understanding the limitations of the RTSP firmware is unfair and harsh.

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

Sadly they won’t be adding it to the main firmware ever, so that’s a wash. And secondly, harsh? I was stating the fact that they kinda made that a side point in there. It’s not unfair to keep companies accountable.

@peterlau9682

4 жыл бұрын

Keep a company accountable for your mistake? You didn’t fully understand the limitations and now you blame Wyze! 🤦🏻‍♂️

wyze cam v2....my replacements are not recognizing the SD card either....☹..... not looking to have decoy cameras.....disappointed.... cannot verbally advertise for them any longer....

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

May want to test a different sd card. What size is the one you have?

Where's the video on how to go back? You're pointing at a blank box

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

It is coming soon. Didn’t have it recorded yet. Will have that up next week.

@FreddietheFly

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrossTechnology Where is it? I need to reverse. I deleted the RTSP file off my SD card then formatted it. My cam firmware is still showing as the RTSP firmware. I want to go back to the old firmware. Help!

Good tutorial. As well as the previous. Thanks.

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome. And thanks for the compliment

why make a big deal, I just need the camera to work via RTSP, I don't need any other firmware

Can you even watch your camera on your watch somehow ?

@GrossTechnology

Жыл бұрын

No, unfortunately they don’t even allow that. Doesn’t make sense, some watches like apple, will have a photo of the event but that’s it.

i never had issues with Wyze cams. I found it the most practical and useful cameras I had. I bought Ring camera before for for over $180 plus and I had to return since there was a delay in the video. In addition Ring camera is useless when you don't pay for subscription. Everything is so easy to set up and no subscription to pay for with Wyze cam. Dont believe this dude. Wyze please dont give tihis dude to try and review your products.

Honestly, if you're using RTSP, you probably only care about the features that are supported by your 3rd party RTSP-based system. You might not even use the the Wyze app. Doesn't really sound like a big deal.

What is offered for the price is very good, wyze is still a good product, complain and give them time to rectify,,,

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Oh I totally agree! I still love Wyze and what they make, just wished I could say that about this specific feature. I’m still 100% Wyze no doubt there.

Woah good thing I saw this before I was gonna try this! 👍

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

Check out BlueStacks app for windows. Much better to use for this than the RTSP.

@alessandriaj7265

4 жыл бұрын

@@GrossTechnology Is BlueStacks a simple install?

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah not difficult at all, just annoying with the ads and such.

FYI - I was able to use RTSP, no firmware push here. :)

@GrossTechnology

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they have taken down the RTSP firmware

BLF.....Bottom Line First......please!

This is to be expected. Wyze does not want, and has never wanted, people to use RTSP. They make their money from cloud subscriptions. The only reason they came up with the RTSP feature is because there were SO many people requesting it. But, note how difficult it is to install -- and now how you point out that it is not supported. Believe me, they know it's not OK. But, Wyze does NOT want you using RTSP. Period.

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

They never had any subscription until last month so it has nothing to do with that. And yeah it was an add on they made because of their customers asking for it, but so is most all of their other features are the same way, customers requested. They have an entire forms for just that.

hey...do not forget the 20$ VALUE... it is what it is.

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

Oh trust me, I don’t forget it, it’s why I love Wyze so much.

Honey, I shrunk the Wyze.

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

Heard it before, you can do better.

You look like the guy from ghost busters.....you know the one the....accountant

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

I'm famous!

I am most disappointed by the evaporation of Max Drive, which I was looking forward to buying (about now!). More serious is the adverse impact the cancellation has on Wyze’s credibility. The Max Drive was announced with great fanfare in January/February with a promised availability date of Q1-2. The sudden cancellation will cast a pall over future announcements, regardless of whether or not Wyze could have done anything to prevent it.

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

The problem is them having to partner with other companies, too much relying on the other party.

@Actiontiles

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrossTechnology Many successful businesses owe their success to partnerships. Wyze dropped Max Drive because it doesn't fit the revenue model that their investors are demanding: i.e., optional increased cloud storage for RMR (recurring monthly revenue). Anyone who doesn't think RMR isn't Wyze's business plan is just plain ignorant of the nature of the security industry.

Great video Josh, I'm with you, 100% on team Wyze, the RTSP issue is honestly kind of annoying. I 100% understand them not having the resources to develop both firmware's but it sounds like there was no communication on your limitation of the firmware updates going forward. Appreciate your honesty.

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

That’s what I was thinking as well. Yes if you look for it you’d see it, but most just went right to the instructions like me.

@aramb

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrossTechnology Meh. I thought Wyze had been quite clear and up front that the rtsp support was a sideline to the mainline release, and I made the trade off to to stay with the mainline releases. My main purpose for installing rtsp was to transmit the video farther away than my local network, and their implementation wasn't going to support that anyway. You *always* have to read the release notes!

Well said. Thank you for your update.

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, just sad to see the maxdrive on hold and not really happy how they did the rtsp feature, but still a great camera.

I'll take the rtsp over all the other features thanks...

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

I agree, the new features coming are better than RTSP.

@BudgetGamerz

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrossTechnology edited my comment. Seems autocorrect changed what I typed

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Haha fun how tech “helps” us out. Lol.

NO do not enable this feature 2 factor authentication you will lose access to your accounts if you lose access to your original phone numbners do not use

I hate myself for falling for this title and wasting my life watching your video. I know what to avoid watching now.

@GrossTechnology

3 жыл бұрын

Well I wouldn’t hate yourself, but yeah avoid things that will make you hate yourself for sure, in fact stay in a bubble, safer that way.

the memory crap is a lie/misdirect Imo. Sonoff is on a smaller footprint and has most of the same options. Wyze cams will be pretty useless with out a larger NVR. Wyze just needs to merge it in to the main firmware..... If you do not have RTSP its pretty much a Nanny/Pet cam Not a security cam.

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I would love to see them get it into the main firmware.

I'm with you on this subject, no Wyze cams for me

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

I didn’t say that, just wished they would have gone about this update differently.

@rollover36

4 жыл бұрын

@@GrossTechnology OK but still no ONVIF support either, not for me.

For the other 90% of us. What is rtsp?

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

It’s a streaming way of seeing the cameras. I did a whole video just on what it is and what it’s used for and how to set it up. Check out that video.

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

That way the 89% would watch that video and know what it was.

It’s all politic.... lol. If wyze allow rtsp on this firmware, they can’t sell their cloud service well.... even they have cheap plans, but that’s how they can make the money and survive.

@GrossTechnology

3 жыл бұрын

Well this was before their cloud service was really out. But good point.

@sickegg2000

3 жыл бұрын

@@GrossTechnology well.... when do you think they start building the service....? Their camera was only recoding 12 second events with 5 mins delay since day 1. This means they have cloud service in mind since that day...that’s what I believe in.

RTSP implementation is crap....never by another wyze cam

your shelf is lopsided

@GrossTechnology

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha!!!! I have been waiting for someone to notice. Yeah, not easy to hang when the back isn’t flat.

@10886dom

3 жыл бұрын

Lol ya been there am I really the only one that noticed?

@GrossTechnology

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, you win first prize there

you're being too much of a flake. even companies don't want to sell to your type of customer because there will always be something wrong with it even though you love it. get over it because it's hilarious to see you mad for absolutely not a BIG deal. thx for the video.

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your opinion.

@RPista

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrossTechnology well thank you for taking it as constructive criticism and not trolling. 👍🏼

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Hey there are enough of those keyboard warriors out there lol.

Your mistake, don't blame Wyze, take responsibility for your poor understanding of the product!😡

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

While yes I could have found it the principle is more of my issue. The fact that they aren’t going to make RTSP apart of the normal firmware is what I’m having grips with.

@darkegress4392

5 жыл бұрын

I totally agree that RTSP should be in the normal firmware.

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

That’s really what I’m trying to get at, plus let others know, other like me, who didn’t see that note.

@Glorious_Kim_Jong_Un

5 жыл бұрын

You are the definition of a shill, Dark Egress

Get to the point.

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

I did.

@MrNonaste

4 жыл бұрын

@@GrossTechnology I thought that you did too. Some people need it written with crayons.

This band is crap! Constantly disconnecting, constantly freezing, my two day old band is stuck saying it's "100% charged". I bought two! i should have just burned $50 and used the warmth of the $50

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

Are you meaning the Wyze band? Yeah it has been having a lot of bugs. I know they are working on them and trying to fix, but yes, no doubt that it has had a lot of issues... not everyone has them, but still bad.

dude too bad for you. if you keep whining i wont come back here. i dont need max drive. what do you expect for $20. ? its working great for me.

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Well then go ahead and leave. Don’t want to keep bothering you with real concerns or to keep companies accountable no matter the price of their products. Have a great time, find another channel that meets what you want and makes you feel special.

@tngerman

5 жыл бұрын

2K dumbasses

Let's face it. These people want your video on their server. Then it becomes their video not your video.

@GrossTechnology

4 жыл бұрын

They only have clips on the servers, the full videos are on the SD cards. So its not that big of a deal. Plus, Wyze has always asked every person they use or publicize a clip for the persons permission before use.

Dude.... You gotta learn to level out your camera 😑

@GrossTechnology

5 жыл бұрын

Level out my camera?

@c0pyimitati0n

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrossTechnology you can't tell that the shot is completely unlevel?? It looks like I'm watching this on a slump