I studied Egyptology from many, very learned professors at Uppsala Univeristy (but only after I had retired from a 40 year career of teaching). I have travelled to Luxor a couple of times and travelled the desert between the Red Sea and Luxor. I would have LOVED to know of the possibility of an expedition to the western desert. He is living my dream.

@trying3841

Жыл бұрын

Is this the army that is currently found at the bottom of the Red Sea? The ones that tried to kill the Jews as they escaped Egypt

@MrBcuzbcuz

Жыл бұрын

@@trying3841 “currently found”? You must know something no one else does.

@codeblue2532

Жыл бұрын

@@MrBcuzbcuz :: the Red Sea was low enough at this time of the season that the exodus was successful….and then flooded extinguishing the pursuers…..is this close to fact or can you clarify the event ?

I'm glad to hear an actual scientist conduct a TED talk. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy all the inspirational stuff, but hearing an actual scientist deeply involved in his work still makes my heart beat faster. Ty for uploading.

@letmeoff6447

4 жыл бұрын

Scientist... Pffff... He said Egypt is 5000 years old. It isn't.

@neck919

Жыл бұрын

Hero worship.

@b58hustler71

Жыл бұрын

Good for you.

@viagrykeedbr549

Жыл бұрын

@letmeoff6447 you Egypt is not 5000 years old. It is much much older than that

@anthonyfuqua6988

Жыл бұрын

The fact that TED lets pseudoarchaelogists like Graham Hancock conduct speeches diminishes the work of the real scientists who take time out to give these talks. Google Graham Hancock and look at his controversies and ask yourself why they would let this charlatan lecture.

Thank you for the information and bringing it home to follow one's passion!

So this is not about The Disappearance of an Egyptian Army that was 50000 strong. It's about The Disappearance of a Persian army that was 50000 strong.

@virgiljjacas1229

4 жыл бұрын

Click Bait !!!

@buteos8632

4 жыл бұрын

well observed but I would add that's this is about how awesome this guy thinks he is.

@KamikazethecatII

4 жыл бұрын

Cambyses did rule over Egypt too, as Pharaoh. Egypt was not absorbed into the Persian Empire, he ruled Egypt under a separate title.

@zitools

4 жыл бұрын

this is only an "x" talk.

@XtoCee

3 жыл бұрын

It had nothing to do with Ancient Egypt. Ancient Egypt was already a satrap (client state) of the Achaemenid Empire during this period. Cambyses II merely aspired to extend his empire by dwelling deeper into Africa's interior by trying to conquer Kush. Herodotus, a Greek historian explained this over 2,400 years ago but modern historians did not believe his story due to the lack of evidence.

This was a very heart felt speech...I could here the passion he has fir the field he has chosen to Persue...He has a gentle heart and Spitit about him genuine..And teaches us all how take the time upon silent relflexiion we can figure things out with a clearer frame of mind and change stories that need to be changed and look Ed at from a different perspective 😊

@brandonmusick77

Жыл бұрын

Tell me English is not your native language.

@_MrJA

Жыл бұрын

@@brandonmusick77 if the message comes through does it matter... 🤔

@jerald6023

Жыл бұрын

​@MrJA Agreed, but it's quite unclear at the end & that can keep the message from coming through

Inspiring to young folks setting out on their journeys in life. Ive followed my passion too..its a blessing in life

@brickman6243

4 жыл бұрын

Nou

Great speech, thank you for sharing

Wonderful story. Thank you for posting!

I think he did very well with English. It's obviously not his native language and I'm sure he would present a smoother talk in his native tongue. I found him charming

Great presentation. Thank you.

As a student of the Biblical book of Daniel, and a student of history, this story has intrigued me. It ties up some loose ends while introducing us to a new, very interesting historical figure.

A fact about the duration of the ancient Egyptian empire that amazed me when I first heard it is that the reign of Cleopatra, the last Pharaoh, is closer to today than to the start of the Egyptian empire.

We have a lot of Mamluks that have not been discovered yet. Thank you for shaking the information. I am from Egypt

99% of TED talks are academics who have nothing to say and are trying to cultivate a niche, this is one of them. However, now and again a TED talk comes along that leaves you in awe, this is not one of them.

An informative video, amazing!!:)

Thank you. On a philosophical as well as factual level, that moved me.

@ThePatriotzz

4 жыл бұрын

Dave Box yes i pitty the poor Guy with no content!

Loved this! Thank you

@blznft9513

4 жыл бұрын

Your name reminds me of my young times when I would eat cinnamon by itself for my own tasting pleasure

@piggiesfly1093

4 жыл бұрын

I could be happy the rest of my life.. With a cinnamon girl. 😏

Excellent!

I worked in archeological excavations when I was a student. I was told sand has a high portion of silica. Body's decompose in a few years in sand.

I loved the pause when he said "to me (pause) a scientists " priceless

This happened to me recently. I ordered a DVD on amazon but it never arrived. Just disappeared

@hauntedhose

4 жыл бұрын

It’s probably with all of the visuals we didn’t get to see in this video

@mrallworthit

4 жыл бұрын

@@hauntedhose LMAO saw that and I searched youtube with Cambyses lost army...still took me here though

@mrallworthit

4 жыл бұрын

oops replied the wrong person

@greensoplenty6809

4 жыл бұрын

thats why amazon building temples everywhere you look

@markdemell8056

4 жыл бұрын

DUUH.

They ran into 300 Spartans.

@waynesteakley9772

4 жыл бұрын

That's so good! There would be waste, Maybe the Spartans were disguised as a sandstone ???

@paidinfull6401

4 жыл бұрын

Source's because that's not true

@climate-moneymakingcampaig305

4 жыл бұрын

Actually it was 303

@victa80

4 жыл бұрын

Haha

@drasta100

4 жыл бұрын

Spartans had not come out of their caves!!!

I love Egyptology, too. It’s been a passion of mine since I was a child. I like the period he’s talking about, too, because there’s so much to know and learn about.

Follow your passion ,well said

شكرا الى من قام بالترجمة الى اللغة العربية . رائعة جدا .

I've had a few boyfriend's who suddenly disappeared, no calls, no letters or email's i thought they had gone off me never thought until watching this that a bloody sandstorm got them.

@southernsmoke8391

4 жыл бұрын

"ghosting" is over 5.000 yrs young

@southernsmoke8391

4 жыл бұрын

@Wuotans Krieger and another 0

@lydiawaffleman1497

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao...

@jigc23

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe something wrong with you 🙄

@andrewpaul7441

4 жыл бұрын

What is a letter? Call? You must mean a text.

I read Olaf as Loaf and 50.000 as 50,000 and went through this whole thing dissapointed i didnt learn about 50,000 year old Egyptian bread..

So, there's still no sign of this battle. Not a word about the fact that an Italian expedition have found an army in 1996 (studied until 2009), together persian artifacts. Would that spoil the "mistery" perhaps? Too bad.

@ottodidakt3069

4 жыл бұрын

have you got any references to share ?

So are we saying what happened in Dakhla Oasis is going to stay in Dakhla Oasis?

@bsuper63

4 жыл бұрын

Vegas baby...Vegas.

@theofulk5636

4 жыл бұрын

No, but it was SUPPOSED TO.

Egypt wasn't always a desert. Not sure exactly when but scientists are almost certain Egypt was a lush rainforest in the not too distant past.

@busterbiloxi3833

Жыл бұрын

Parts of Egypt were lusher than they are now. Desertification is a thing. What is your point?

It could have been interesting, and was up until it just ended with no resolution. Did he find the army? If so what did he find?

It also happened for second Persian army which was big fleet of ship to Greece destination with 200.000 men. Never arrived

It's got a history alot older than that.

Heroditus spoke of ships, they were found recently buried under the old nile......

Wow, we're back at the start!

He's mistaken. Herodotus is writing about the Great Psamtik 1st. Rising up to conquer the Assyrian empire of Essarhaddon and Asherbinpal. From the story of Thebes and Temple of Amun. Psamtik regained complete control of upper and lower Egypt. There was no other Egyptian warrior king like him since Thutmoses III

This only proves what I've learned from reading Herodotus' work: Take it with a grain of salt, or in this case a grain of sand.

Fantastic. I fell asleep immediately. No more restless nights!

Jolly good - THANKS............... cheers

0utstanding! Thanks!

@E-Kat

5 жыл бұрын

Did you learn anything? The person above you doesn't agree.

The headline is misleading, this story is not about an "Egyptain Army". "... one of the stories he relates is that of a Persian army sent out into the western desert and it never came back."

@willyam9735

5 жыл бұрын

So....the whole whole headline is a misnomer, you are right!

*_...Herodotus was an amateur Greek historian, and fascinated by Egyptian geography... I think even spawned the county western croon, "Is it warmer down south than it is in the summer..." (originally referring to the priesthood's explanation for the source of the Nile river way down south, the snow melts from the high mountains near the equator)..._*

They were crossing the Red Sea to catch up with Israel.

@aaaricmondroofing1703

4 жыл бұрын

Bob Ski somebody knows the truth. Research Ron Wyatt for Sodom Gamoriah Research muddfosil university on you tube for the giants of renown.

@KalRandom

4 жыл бұрын

Think the accurate translation was Reed River. It was a common mistranslation.

@stevenfoulger6066

4 жыл бұрын

@@KalRandom No it was in the Gulf of Aqaba, an extension of the Red Sea.

@dennisacklin3301

4 жыл бұрын

Google maps Arabia. Split rock of Moses moses camp

@dennisacklin3301

4 жыл бұрын

@B B I don't understand your question Bebe tell me more about what you see

i wish there were some maps and photos to show the area where that army was. why not look intp ground radar / ladar ?

A bit misleading, but, very intriguing. Listen to the whole thing.. for your sake.

The people who said nothing happened in this talk obviously didn't stay or understand... The myth of a lost army was shattered, a lost king found and a battlefield waits to be excavated. That's quite a bit of drama right there!

@marthas.4456

5 жыл бұрын

Actually that Egyptian king was a fighter, a hero. He claimed back Egypt from the Persians.

@ancientbear3280

4 жыл бұрын

"Battlefield waits to be excavated". We have a theory at this point.

@brycelynch8094

4 жыл бұрын

He's an archeologist not a public speaker, we need to be excavating and digging into our history in that part of the world, he's doing important work

@MaxSMoke777

4 жыл бұрын

@@ancientbear3280 Yes! Thank you.

Where can I buy one of those?

Fantastic

Soooo basically a Persian legend/mystery compelled him to pursue becoming an Egyptologist some day. Cool story bro.

@ianrand9737

4 жыл бұрын

It is an Egyptian record translated by a Greek traveler about a Persian army

The Egyptian army followed their passion.

Damn I wish this talk was an order of magnitude longer.

His total breathless pauses are agonising.

So many TEDx lectures on KZread is so poorly filmed... Why would you show a person talking for several minutes instead of the slideshow that’s supporting the talk.?!

@ThePatriotzz

4 жыл бұрын

This was an absolut zero content stretched for 13 minutes! No solution, no content no findings just sitting there thinking about a surrealistisk nothing!

Ever since I was a child I loved everything Egypt. So I became a musician.

@kimbo99

4 жыл бұрын

So if you had loved dinosaurs you would have become a dentist?

@theofficialdiamondlou2418

4 жыл бұрын

Steve Trueblue no a football player .... 🤦‍♂️🤣

@TEDx Why the title says Disappearance of a 50.000 Egyptian Army while it was Persian Army?

Very interesting. Egypt first for me leading to Babylon. I like a good story yes but always like the facts. I watched one video in particular that began the story the same and just stated. “He was known as the drunk King”. He must have got lost and the sandstorm done them in, buried. Doesn’t cut it for me. This gent has given me some information to look over. 👍🏻

@marcymathieu4463

2 жыл бұрын

The Pharos didn’t just disappear they migrated to Europe and started their secret societies and then were sent to found USA .

@krismontykrismonty

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcymathieu4463 I'm pretty sure they're hidden in sight everywhere. Also hidden away where people can't go. Under the Sea,earth and sky pal.

Nice point, Jeffery Hill! Charles Forte also had a tale,verified by witnesses, of a British regiment in Gallipoli times being covered by a brownish cloud, which then lifted up. The regiment had disappeared. No remains found or explanation was ever given. Who's going around collecting armies??!!

@questioneverything8376

3 жыл бұрын

Later excavations proved that the majority were executed by Turks near a small farm in a heavily wooded area near Sulva Bay in the North of the Penninsula. The Turks had their "lost regiment". They totally vanished while on routine patrol before the allied landings. This worried the Turks greatly suspecting mass desertion. Only solved many decades later when bone fragments where discovered by a shepard in a small hollow. They had all been killed by a single shot from the Battleship Queen Elisabeth when it exploded directly over their heads.

Hahaha, Kelly Shaw, u are so funny about these silly boyfriends, a comforting attitude over a bad situation; love it.

Great Tory!

Amazing

This almost parallels the Mongols invasion of Japan when its fleet was destroyed by a typhoon.

Discovering a new Egyptian king.... probably pretty nice...

@camerontaylor7471

5 жыл бұрын

Per Sørlie lmao there were so many! And they did nothing but kill people and boss others around by lying about how fancy they are!

Awesome!

Ever thought about looking for them in the Red sea? Carl, just journeying through.

I think the commenting experts below, might need to listen the the video again.

@climate-moneymakingcampaig305

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly :) to be honest hes presentation is so bad but whoever wants to get what he means will get , his speech was delivered eventho the presentation was not so good .

There was once an army of 50,000 Egyptians / really Persians in Egypt, they disappeared in a sandstorm. No one knows if it is a myth or true, the end. Cool story bro.

@rayz639

4 жыл бұрын

TheDba82 iirc it’s well recorded because the Persian king who lead the army went mad due to the defeat.

good job

Seheruibre Padibastet, better known with his Hellenised name Petubastis III (or IV, depending on the scholars) was a native Ancient Egyptian ruler, c. 522 - 520 BC, who revolted against Persians.

I’m pretty sure somebody missed pay day, and the boys “vanished” in the sand.

Did I miss something? He never found the remains of the army, nor their battlefield. He has an assumption based on a temple inscription. It seems very premature to have an entire TED talk where he pats himself on the back for a discovery that is completely theoretical at this point.

@xciteful

4 жыл бұрын

TEDx is different than TED.

@stevec7923

4 жыл бұрын

He found out why the 50k troops were sent out. He found that those 50k did not succeed in their mission. He found where this mysterious king belonged in the history of Egypt. He helped confirm the credibility of Herodotus' recorded story.

@princesssolace4337

4 жыл бұрын

He is Dutch.

@NLTops

4 жыл бұрын

@@princesssolace4337 What's your point exactly?

@tylerdurden3722

4 жыл бұрын

@@princesssolace4337... Lol are you referencing a stereotype we're unaware of🤣🤣

I think that size of ancient armies that have come to us need to be divided by 5 or 10. The logistics (water and food most importantly) of the high numbers are impossible.

Check for Solar Out Burst. Also use metal detector in grid like pattern of best guess areas. Use satellite with ground penetrating sonar.

let me save you some time... take the title and add... "I guess, this story is really about my life and my adventures"... I hate when they do that...

@dondelgado1497

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@davidcoon4424

4 жыл бұрын

Excellent story.Please MrEriksson, more Ted Talk video. I am fascinated and hunger for more.Thank you so much.

I switched off when he said Egypt has 5,000 years of history, the real history goes way back.

@mikloscsuvar6097

4 жыл бұрын

More than 5000, you deaf. Written a.k.a less speculative history is just 5000.

@avimukta1

4 жыл бұрын

"more than 5000yrs"

Amazing Post. It gives a great example of how difficult is to assemble history basing facts on isolated pieces of evidence. Let’s not forget that Egyptology goes back to the times of Greeks. Few thousand years ago.

Thats a very good example for Talk a lot without saying nothing

thats easy they got swallowed up by a great sand storm and that was it yea they all got snuffed out like in a moutian land slide but a sand one

When he wondered the desert trying to justify his life, he missed his mummy

@Mark-yb1sp

5 жыл бұрын

Bert Osterberg Excellent!

@surfk9836

5 жыл бұрын

@@Mark-yb1sp except its wandered.

Speed the video is better.

I think he just put his name on the temple and that it is much much older. When we see on old structures that somenone says that "he" built it,,, we know that he did not.

Alien ships beamed them up. Scotty was at the controls.

Also they could have been attacked by a over whelming army and destroyed and mass burial many ways they could perish

@willie417

4 жыл бұрын

50 thousand dead, plus 15-20 on the other side that's a lot of killing

@iangillham9647

4 жыл бұрын

Where is this other army from? Serious question.

I still don’t get why they said the army was lost in a sand storm and all the other things that were in the story. But i am glad he followed his passion and was rewarded by picking the dullest time period of egypt

13 mins to say "My guess is, we're looking for a battlefield." Whole lot of sawdust, no beams.

college history professor said Herodotus would often lie to fill in the gaps if he didnt have the full truth and other historians of the era said he was a bit of a liar/exaggerator

@vlufgrod9040

3 жыл бұрын

true. A lot of what he writes are second accounts from other people and were told orally. The stories are bound to have some embellishments. Plus the thing is, Herodotus also believes in mystical things (just like most other people back then). So he writes down things that to us are obviously false, thinking that it indeed happened.

That's very interesting but I don't understand why you need believe his theory with no evidence over the legends.

@willyam9735

5 жыл бұрын

Johnson, My thoughts exactly! No evidence to back it up. I watched a Nat-Geo video about a group that did travel to an area that bronze-age bones and weapons were discovered earlier that was not more than a days journey from the armies oasis destination but they were in no condition to attack anything, sand storm or not! All the articles found dated to about the time that that army disappeared. Not proof positive but pretty close.

@MaxSMoke777

4 жыл бұрын

@@willyam9735 I wish you would elaborate more and mention a link or how to find this video. What do you mean "No condition to attack"? It sounds like that video is far more informative and useful then this TED-Talk-Theory.

@climate-moneymakingcampaig305

4 жыл бұрын

he told that the king name that was mentioned in that temple was later mentioned as another king of egypt , it simply explains what happenned in that desert and to the rest of invaders ! Sooner or later the battlefield will be found , but we already know what will they find there . Archeolagical timelines are not whole projects , different people in different times will prove them with excavations . What he says is that the 50k didnt go to sky or was lost in the desert , he basically means the mystery is solved

Well, being the amateur Egyptologist, I came across this title pleasantly excited. It immediately became apparent that it wasn’t the Egyptian army in question, it was a Persian one. I can only imagine a massive sandstorm is very capable of swallowing an entire army. BUT, no evidence whatsoever. My mind even drifted to a Close Encounter scenario where the Persian army was beamed up whole! And Olaf found Hieroglyphs depicting Persians in the sky being transported to a mother ship. I am eagerly awaiting the discovery of Cleopatra’s tomb. At least then a take from Herodotus would have more bones to it.

Is Arguement still going on? I need files and facts! 📠📠📠📠📠📠

This makes perfect sense, a sandstorms been stealing my socks out of the dryer for YEARS!

@JohnJ469

3 жыл бұрын

No, the warm, moist environment allowed them to complete their metamorphosis into a wire coathanger, which transports and appears in your cupboard.

@danielbejaranojr4562

3 жыл бұрын

You need a better dryer

@pericbowen4958

3 жыл бұрын

...careful....😕

@michaelaaron6463

3 жыл бұрын

Spoiled the story nice

"Disappearance of a 50.000 Egyptian Army | Olaf Kaper | TEDxEde " The title I think refers to the army of Cambyses, who was Persian, not Egyptian.

@timpage5021

4 жыл бұрын

Yea Cyrus the greats son.

Awesome

Wow, so many dislikes for this truly amazing insight in what actual science looks like. This guy has just found out why 50.000 soldiers were "lost", found a new king of that period and established an area for him and his colleagues to go to for further digging and to know what to look for, not 50.000 soldiers but a battlefield. This bores everyone? People... People are so... People don´t know how much work real science actually is and what real discoveries look like, obviously...

...say what? Solved?!! I think not. Has archaeology come to this? Has Ted Talks come to this?

@rdooski

4 жыл бұрын

Yes it has indeed come to this. Especially Egyptology. It all actuality though most of history is just an educated guess at best.

@eca3101

3 жыл бұрын

This is TedX... not Ted

Interesting, Persian army defeated fighting a rebellious pharaoh near a desert oasis. Persian propaganda, army lost in the desert.

@kiyanmehrpour6105

5 жыл бұрын

U men heredotus ? Because Persians never write anything about themselves.

@philipberthiaume2314

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting take,

@CountryCampers

4 жыл бұрын

@@kiyanmehrpour6105 Really? Not so....consider Behistun Inscription: Darius's Message to the Persian Empire, a 6th century BCE Persian Empire carving iincluding four panels of cuneiform writing around a set of three-dimensional figures, cut deep into a limestone cliff. The figures are carved 300 feet (90 meters) above the Royal Road of the Achaemenids, known today as the Kermanshah-Tehran highway in Iran.

@climate-moneymakingcampaig305

4 жыл бұрын

@@CountryCampers who was darius ?

@manog8713

4 жыл бұрын

Did you see excatly what happened? You jsut believe what he just said? Where are the remains of that battle and where is the evidence for the size of that army? Oh, you don't need to see them; you just believe what you are told, as long as the teller is a European!

Name the chapter???

I think the most likely scenario is Cambyses was quite successful in his conquests in Egypt and neighbouring territories in Africa as archaeology and other sources suggests. However, he was assassinated and his brother usurped the throne, only for him to then be overthrown by a group of nobles, one of them being the upcoming Darius the Great.

@ahmadfathy7994

Жыл бұрын

Egyptian fight him

@timurthelamest5630

Жыл бұрын

@@ahmadfathy7994 Correct. Cambyses fought many people.

That was painfull to watch..

There is a legend of the Chinese emperor who sent his official to find the elixir of life. In those days, those emperor want to live forever. The official, knowing that he and is entire family were dead as there was no way to find the elixir. That was the penalty for failure. He asked the emperor for 500 young men and maidens and ships and supplies and left and sailed to what is now Japan and established a settlement there and never came back. So actually the people of Japan are Chinese. That is of course for those scientists to prove. It is way beyond my pay grade.

@endintiers

5 жыл бұрын

This story may have truth. The central Japanese population has a surprising degree of haplogroup O3a5, which is Han Chinese. This is not explained by the standard version of migration from Korea.

@katiekat4457

5 жыл бұрын

Bobby Yee i believe you but they must have mixed with other people there or something because chinese and Japanese people look completely different than each other. I know most people would disagree because they think all Asians look the same but they definitely do not look the same. If you have paid attention to how Asian people look you would have seen that you can easily tell where they are from just by their facial features. Just like you can tell the difference between certain white nationalities like Polish, Ukrainian, and Russians.

@TheAndreArtus

5 жыл бұрын

@@katiekat4457 The native Japanese were more like native Taiwanese (Polynesian).

@SapaHollidaySaparonia

5 жыл бұрын

I've heard that the early Chinese were Caucasian

@gdavidson3059

5 жыл бұрын

@Jerry dee Bloody Scots get everywhere!

1:22 what did he say did he say and that's it now or was that an edit? Even his body language looked funny but back to the video.

This is my professor at University Leiden 😃