TED "flagging" this talk speaks volumes about the state of our academic, archeological, and scientific community. Thank you Mr. Gilbertson 👏

@rainydays999

Жыл бұрын

@Atheos B. Sapien OH, struck a nerve? You don't like it when our junk education is questioned. Sorry

@object1ion

Жыл бұрын

@Atheos B. Sapien lol you and your indoctrinated mind can go back under the rock from which you came 🕊🤣

@object1ion

Жыл бұрын

@@rainydays999 Bingo. Another cult member, indoctrinated with things they are told to believe and memorize.

@girthbrooks7645

Жыл бұрын

@Atheos B. Sapien Aren't you due for another booster, miss critical thinker? Lol

@YTjndallas

Жыл бұрын

@Atheos B. Sapien There’s this thing called “punctuation.” Try it. You might like it !!

I love that the speaker raised more questions than he gave answers, and the call to action was inspiring.

Excellent speaker. I followed everything he said. He did not go off on a side trip, stayed to the direct path and kept everyone right on the subject. EXCELLENT!!

@rls5938

Жыл бұрын

he kept a tight orbit on his thoughts

@RobertECheck

Жыл бұрын

@RLS - And I guess that orbit under the sea, is the best place to look for ancient structures.

@MrWeAllAreOne

Жыл бұрын

Nah.

@Andrew-iv5dq

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonyv6962yup. Right on. Remember the bicycle thingy? If you measure the ratios of the three main bars of a bike you get some numbers that “amazingly” match the ratios of the orbits of planets and masses of particles and damned near anything else if you look hard enough.

@rutgercolinkips7453

Жыл бұрын

It's just that there is not an actual logical connection between the anecdotes he divulges, nor is there any actual evidence for any monument-buiding before 12,000 ybp (Göbekli Tepe being the oldest known monumental construction site), nor is any of the monuments underneath his "elastic band" anywhere near such an age. In truth, it all sounds nice, but it adds up to one big non sequitur.

Excellent talk. The example you gave about continental drift perfectly demonstrates how easily mainstream science dismisses ideas that cannot be explained by our current understanding of reality. In order for science to progress we need to be open-minded, not dogmatic.

@Delta_Tesseract

Жыл бұрын

💯 agree

@mikebronicki8264

Жыл бұрын

@Something Something Dark Side you have to admit that scientists (not science) can become entrenched in their ideas and defend them beyond reason.

@jodyknight

Жыл бұрын

@Something Something Dark Side oh yeah science is always so open to new ideas they'll happily research anything fearlessly without the worry of being outcast by their peers. LMAO!!!!!

@donkink3114

Жыл бұрын

I agree and would add that we be open minded without letting our brains fall out

@donkink3114

Жыл бұрын

@@mikebronicki8264 that is a people problem not a science problem.

TED: We've flagged this talk Me: Thanks! I'm glad you make it so easy to find the TED talks actually worth listening to

@VonSC2

4 жыл бұрын

haha this ^

@jeevanix

4 жыл бұрын

Flogged.

@openbuddhistforuminternational

4 жыл бұрын

So true :)

@JustusvanderMerwe

4 жыл бұрын

So true!!

@angrytedtalks

4 жыл бұрын

Good for a laugh.

Graham Hancock has been telling this story for 30 yrs! He's met with combative resistance by mainstream ! Glad to see the world is finally catching up!

@brucecovert3188

4 жыл бұрын

More tricky than meets the eye

@Mortum_Rex

4 жыл бұрын

Hancock is a crackpot.

@johni4213

4 жыл бұрын

@@brucecovert3188 How?

@johni4213

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mortum_Rex Ya , and you're watching his story right here right now! So who's the crack pot!

@johni4213

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mortum_Rex You're an obvious Moron!

This is courageous. I applaud this man. It seems we need to dig deeper and rewrite history.

@huasirr

Жыл бұрын

Graham Hancock and Randal Carlson have been talking about this stuff for years. Talking about riding on the coat tails of others.

@texasfossilguy

Жыл бұрын

not just him or them, dozens of people have been working on this.

@heavenabove579

Жыл бұрын

Bravo Elon Musk. Hero of free speech.

@suckOnThese3

Жыл бұрын

Nothing new here. Many have already stated these facts and more accurately this Neanderthal. Welcome to club, almost, better late than never

@harrywalker5836

Жыл бұрын

this has been known for yrs by all conspiracy therorists, its an alien track, built on purpose,. revalation of the pyramids. vid.

Great talk. We know that ocean levels were 400 feet lower between 13,000 and 20,000 years ago, so searching the continental shelfs may indeed uncover stone buildings and other artifacts of lost and highly advanced civilizations.

@marydesmond9595

Жыл бұрын

if they were that advanced, why didn't they just move to higher ground?

@knuckles1006

Жыл бұрын

@@marydesmond9595 Well yes, the inhabitants could easily leave, but as I stated, the buildings and other stone structures would still be there. Some may be partially poking out of the ocean floor, while other structures will be completely covered up.

@Bravemouth2

Жыл бұрын

In a sudden catastrophic event, one seldom gets the chance to move … picture an earthquake or a tsunami, few people get enough warning to leave.

@OlPossumOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

12,000 years ago mammoths were found flash frozen with forage in there mouth and stomach, indicating a magnetic pole reversal, major volcanic activity, covered in a layer of carbon, we are due and right on tract for another magnetic pole reversal.

@HansDunkelberg1

Жыл бұрын

@@Bravemouth2 I think Mary means that such an advanced civilization should have had sites at higher places from the beginning. But it could appear as plausible that also such a civilization would have disappeared because it would have been refined overly much, would have relied on a dangerously strong distribution of production sites for specialized equipment.

What was in this talk that is outside the guidelines? He started with a fringe idea that after decades of work is now an accepted mainstream theory (plate tectonics). Then explained how a more recent fringe idea led him to dig a little deeper and how that digging led to a new discovery (the two day orbit). And concluded with the idea that fringe science isn't such a bad starting point to look at things from a different perspective, ask questions that mainstream science hasn't thought to ask, and to investigate things even if they have a 'good enough' explanation already. Isn't that the whole point of science? To get past the 'good enough' theories to the actual truth?

@moonravenstone5368

4 жыл бұрын

Let's float this boat Ted, if you remove the agenda from science, then its all fringe, correct?

@michaelfinucan8605

4 жыл бұрын

Think about how much money that can be made by researching these ideas and the new publishing income that can be arrived at by conclusions that peer into the past history only one half of a Great Year, 12,500 years, or approximately 13,000 years. This could be the excitement that propels young people to become our new archeologists. Damn exciting!

@moonravenstone5368

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelfinucan8605 there's that "evolutionary" monitory theory again! Science will have to debate that for centuries! 💖

@moonravenstone5368

4 жыл бұрын

Your both very correct.

@GaryTugan

4 жыл бұрын

EXCELLENT comment. Thank you :)

Dear TED, with all due respect, the guy’s done his homework, and it’s solid. Maybe be it’s time for TED to examine itself, and determine if TED isn’t holding onto old fallacies a wee bit too tightly ....

@thisunity

4 жыл бұрын

TED evidently has an agenda they wish to impress upon the public. What exactly that entails and how well will it benefit the public is yet to be determined.

@georgeholloway3981

4 жыл бұрын

Come off it! You listen to one TED talk and you think you can talk about "old fallacies"?

@georgeholloway3981

4 жыл бұрын

@@thisunity Yes, to make people more well-informed.

@claytonrealist8868

4 жыл бұрын

@@georgeholloway3981 What "old fallacies" are you referring to? I am curious.

@stevenparker7946

4 жыл бұрын

Speak for yourself my friend. I’ve been following these things fir 5+ decades.🤣 welcome to the party, but try to keep an open mind....lol

This talk is fascinating and untarnished by dogma, unlike the TED moderators whose ‘content guidelines’ phrase masks prejudice. It is TED moderators who should account for their decisions publicly on a case by case basis. In this case, I believe they have gone right overboard.

@fivebass1

Жыл бұрын

WELL SAID!!

@MomToEight

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

@dirkjenkinz595

Жыл бұрын

Bollocks

@gregparrott

Жыл бұрын

Had TED censored parts or banned it, I would share your disparaging view. But all they did was post a 'heads-up', stating that the talk does not meet a level of corroboration or proof. That is fair enough. TED posted a heads-up, and we the viewer are free to judge for ourselves how much credence we give it. I found it highly credible. And, he only encouraged more investigation into the past. He did not posit wild claims about aliens. I see ZERO in TED's two sentence heads-up that represents a 'mask for prejudice'

@RGNELSON1

Жыл бұрын

@@gregparrott thanks for this information. Appreciated and understood.

The culmination of Randall Carlson, Brian Forester, Robert Schoch, Greg Hancock. UNBELIEVABLE TED TALK! It puts everything together in a new and great way with regards to a connection of modern technology, and it’s potential purposes for ancient sites and/or technology.

@nomadscavenger

Жыл бұрын

Hi, it's Graham H. A Brit and co-wrote fun books w/Rbt. Bauval, too.🙋

@gwilson87

Жыл бұрын

@@nomadscavenger Correct - Graham Handcock has written some amazing books covering all of this.

of course you flag it... standard establishment response, discredit it without addressing the argument. Great talk Roger.

@darrennew8211

4 жыл бұрын

What scientific argument did he make?

@mirin9851

3 жыл бұрын

He is presenting an idea that needs researching based on observable facts

@aplato8576

3 жыл бұрын

Turns out that's a trait adopted by liberals, elitists, and all the little terrorist wanna-bees that run our media these days, i.e., don't allow free speech, don't encourage thinking for yourself and whatever you do don't disobey orders, e.g., stay home/stay safe, where a mask like all the other sheep, etc., etc. And, don't ever ask for proof...

@alanfoxman5291

3 жыл бұрын

They're not interfering with his free speech. They're not deleting it or criticizing it or belittling him in any way. All they're saying is: This falls outside our guidelines. He's presenting a question. Good. It's an interesting question. Maybe he can get funding to examine it. Good for him. But at this moment, there's no scientific evidence to answer the question. That's neither good nor bad. It's simply a fact.

@therealamericanjohnsmith2343

3 жыл бұрын

Must not be part of the new narrative of beliefs being pushed for the new world religion of non-thinking blindly following morons. Isn't it funny how so many people are so afraid to challenge the status quo?

Even if he doesn't discover what he is looking for, he'll still discover far more than the man that doesn't look.

Above all else, let's not be afraid to rewrite history and call out previous misconceptions as partially or completely incorrect. Because without them, we wouldn't have a path to begin the journey towards truthful understanding.

@nomorenames5568

Жыл бұрын

It took something like 40 years for Clovis first to finally die academia is dead now. Imagine taking 40 years to finally admit the first human settlement in the Americas wasn't in Arizona.

@gwills9337

Жыл бұрын

We're not allowed to rewrite history

@flaneur5560

Жыл бұрын

@@gwills9337 Are you positing a secret committee or a secret global leader making dictates?

Great talk! Not only in content but in delivery. Sometimes one thumbs up doesn't seem enough.

@minigrrl

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely

When I was a kid in the 1970's, the notion that Vikings visited North America was considered fringe . Today, it is accepted fact.

@1SpudderR

4 жыл бұрын

Daniel Logan-Scott Me tooooooo....but many many years before that!

@efudge8

4 жыл бұрын

My grandfather saw viking marks in Michigan....agreed

@1SpudderR

4 жыл бұрын

Ed Foojay Hmm? I bet that your grandfathers grandfather could be watching you, wondering if you have his axe?

@DeanLogan

4 жыл бұрын

Possibly, they went much further south as well. In my DNA research, I found a match with someone who had never left Norway who apparently had some matches to Meso-American DNA.

@1SpudderR

4 жыл бұрын

Dean Logan Hmm? 1000CE is so recent? The Egyptian Pyramids were supposedly built pre 4000CE....With technology unimagined even today....! Why explain 1000CE....When the millennia’s a’priori is the preferable, though more challenging route. Unless of course the Norsemen are More Advanced?...Wood against 60 to 1000+ tonnes of laser type granite carpentry?

This guy is on my wavelength, what an excellent TED talk. The most interesting talks are always the ones that give you new perspective and ask questions about what we think we know, and this guy is asking all the right questions.

@judsonwall8615

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, and I appreciated that he didn’t make any claims here. He didn’t say “our history is all wrong.” Because the vast majority of it is probably not. But he said “We might be missing some pieces to the puzzle; we might not. Let’s find out.” I really appreciate this perspective. And his closing thoughts (because his claims here are extraordinary): “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” Love that he didn’t shy away from that.

@sincerdagain6060

Жыл бұрын

Those type talks is what TED Talks Usually ban. Censorship is a terrible cancer in the world of knowledge.

@wesleyhobbs2332

Жыл бұрын

And to think this all started in 1990's with the realization the Spinx has torrential rain damage.....

@stevenwilgus5422

Жыл бұрын

@Terre Schill Rational thought

@craigb8228

Жыл бұрын

I personally think Earth's past was full of worldwide earthquakes, continental shift, volcanoes whatever you want to call it, creating a worldwide tsunami.

Great video, I believe humans have been around a lot longer than what main stream people elude to. Giving credit to a simple culture that the work was way more advanced than they could do or duplicate.

@mikemc4549

Жыл бұрын

Maybe not around longer but more advanced longer ago than is thought.

@himoffthequakeroatbox4320

Жыл бұрын

It's impossible to elude *to* something; it means avoid or escape. Did you mean *allude,* Einstein?

@cfredochsner8155

Жыл бұрын

@@himoffthequakeroatbox4320 Simple mistake no need to get dyspeptic Einstien

@snag41

Жыл бұрын

6 millenia

@oliveoil7642

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonyv6962your evidence?

'The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity' -Dorothy Parker

@D._Eath

Жыл бұрын

Aʜᴇᴍ .

@mountainman88

Жыл бұрын

Death?

@johnwilson1094

Жыл бұрын

More universally applicable than, "Brevity is the soul of Lingerie."

@tomkiefaber4297

Жыл бұрын

@@mountainman88 I'm kinda curious what may be beyond this limited dimensional realm. ;-)

@frogsoda

Жыл бұрын

There must be a cure for curiosity because a lot of people today just don't have any of it.

Ive watched hundreds of ted talks and this one blows all the rest out of the water. By far my favorite ted talk ever. And ted won’t even recognize it. Shame on ted. Shame. Shame. Shame. This guy is awesome and I’m going to buy whatever books he writes and watch whatever videos I can find by him

@HansDunkelberg1

Жыл бұрын

What might be the "claims made in this talk [...] not corroborated by scientific evidence" they mean? "Huge blocks that we wouldn't realistically try to move today" (12:28)? Or perhaps: "Researchers suspect - and there is good evidence for - 13,000 years ago there was a more advanced form of human civilization. How advanced is hard to say" (15:16)?

An easy chap to follow, albeit i'm not scientifically minded but i do enjoy clarity and reasoning. I'm 71 female and 'into' deep deep ancient history and how it is manifesting 'now'. Thank You.

@joemeyers4131

Жыл бұрын

Yes there is likely ancient manmade artifacts in the earths crust might he unknown to us now . People have discussed this in the past .. One was like a novel called the Hab Theory about major pole shifts that destroyed extremely ancient races and cultures that had to start over again !

To my mind this TEDx Talk demonstrates the importance of following any leads (no matter how crazy at first they may seem) to wherever good quality questions may take us. The lengths one must go to satisfactorily answer & refine it, or to disprove it, often times show where gaps in our understanding exist. This is important because it is in these gaps where novel ideas have always existed, as they silently await our recognition of them. On the other hand, outright dismissal of good questions based solely on conflicting results which speak against our preconceptions highlights the foolishness of holding inflexible world views. Such a limiting bias takes one only so far. As more evidence accumulates in support of incredible claims we must be willing to entertain the possibility that our old preconceived conceptual frameworks should be put to rest, in favor of new ones. Anything is possible, for those bold enough to seek a deeper understanding of things. So stay curious folks. We don't know what we don't know. To say nothing at all about that which has been forgotten through the passage of time.

@RexHrothgar1

Жыл бұрын

Well said. And I agree wholeheartedly.

@Delta_Tesseract

Жыл бұрын

@@RexHrothgar1 thank you!

@juliafox7904

Жыл бұрын

Excellent ✨

@Delta_Tesseract

Жыл бұрын

@@juliafox7904 thank you!

@randywollin5732

Жыл бұрын

Well said Delta, maybe you should be giving some talks to scientists and the skeptics. I just can't understand how people can be so closed minded rather than be the one to find the answers.

For those of us who belong to the "curious scientific club", if you're not feeling like a 4 year old, at least most of the time, you're missing the whole point of the exercise, of being human. Good talk.

It's becoming increasingly apparent that we're living not only on a privileged speck of dust in an incomprehensibly 'yuge' and violent universe, in an unusual solar system, and under a unique star, but also that humans are fortunate to even be in existence during such an incredibly special and tiny sliver of geological time.

@larryroybal6946

Жыл бұрын

AMEN 🙏🏼

@chrisfreebairn870

Жыл бұрын

Yeah sure, but add the chances of a particular bacterium getting gobbled by an early cell to become mitochondria, thus overcoming the energy limitations on the size & complexity of prokaryotes cells, AND the impacts of O2 producing life & geological processes on the atmosphere etc, if you really want to blow your mind ..

@jacksonbrady2905

Жыл бұрын

So true

Roger I applaud your intelligent and courageous approach here! You ave the guts to push boundaries that most are too terrified to touch. Please keep up the good work.

@HansDunkelberg1

Жыл бұрын

I think his talk mainly is an appeal to stay open-minded, anyway.

@user-xx2lt2tw6q

7 ай бұрын

Terrified?

Roger, I highly recommend checking out a video presentation by retired US Army Officer Dr. Walt Brown (former director of a large DOD R&D lab). The video (found on YT) is entitled "The Hydroplate Theory - The Flood (Newer Version)." Thank you for your service, sir!

Thank you Roger. This is one of the most exciting talks that I have enjoyed in the TED(x) smorgasbord of scientific thought discussion. There is no doubt about the existence of a very dramatic, wonderful, inspiring presence of a pre-historic existence of a humanity that excelled at producing mind boggling structures in ways and means that completely escape our "modern" understanding. I have always been convinced of the existence of a single "human culture" that produced colossal works of Art characteristically similar everywhere on Earth as well as the towering heights of their astronomical and mathematical knowledge. To even dream that someday we will know more about our "Elders" is as exciting as the hope and (f)act of actually finding out.

@travelsouthafrica5048

Жыл бұрын

there is an even better explanation , go look at some of Trey Smith's videos , especially the "Theory of everything"

@mypetcrow9873

Жыл бұрын

Simple. Read the Sumerian texts. You’re welcome.

@BigDog366

Жыл бұрын

I agree. It's frustrating being in my 60s because I don't want to clock out without some of this stuff being 'solved'. What does puzzle me however about these ideas is where is the writing? I'm pretty sure a civilization advanced enough to do oceanic travel and mapping or (as this video shows) might have even understood complex orbits, would have had to have writing. So why just cryptic figures with handbags? Why not cover walls of stone with writing telling us their story, preserving it for us, which is what they were apparently trying to do: seed the hunter gatherers with technical know-how. It's a frustrating but fascinating puzzle. Ancient Apocalypse on Netflix is superb if you've not seen it. Grahame Hancock is a wonderful speaker and filmmaker.

@dannerpaint

Жыл бұрын

Here, here...!!!

@donnyposey5179

Жыл бұрын

@@BigDog366 Perhaps they used "cryptic" images to just tell a story anyone of any language would have the same ideas related to them. Unfortunately we don't understand the images.

Humanity need to take Robert Gilbertson seriously and use all available resources & talent along with hard work to seek answers to those important questions. His works is ground breaking. He is a genius. We need to listen to him.

@HansDunkelberg1

Жыл бұрын

Do you think that investigations into the question Mr. Gilbertson raises could enable us to reverse engineer valuable machinery?

I am more fascinated by this subject than anything else and I too crave knowledge of what, who, and why all this was built throughout the planet. We have lost a massive chunk of our ancient history and it needs to be recovered.

@HansDunkelberg1

Жыл бұрын

Do you really not find research into reincarnation-like phenomena even more fascinating?

These are the sort of presentations I really love. Not too fringe but close enough to the edge to make you think about the possibilities. It's easy to fall into the trap that because we learned something that was accepted as factual we don't need to question it and anyone who does is a conspiracy theorist. The best attitude to learning is not to boast about how much we know but to embrace what we don't know and search there for scientific answers.

@binkwillans5138

Жыл бұрын

Why would you question a fact? A fact is simply a measurement made to accepted standards. We collect facts in pursuit of science. The speaker here is pseudoscience, i.e. NOT science.

@istantinoplebullconsta642

Жыл бұрын

"It's easy to fall into the trap that because we learned something that was accepted as factual " How much of this presentation was factual? NOTE FROM TED: ". . . Claims made in this talk only represent the speaker’s personal views which are not corroborated by scientific evidence. "

@bjjolley

Жыл бұрын

@@binkwillans5138 Questioning accepted answers IS science.

@binkwillans5138

Жыл бұрын

@@bjjolley Not knowing FACTS is NOT science. You are in the pseudo-science TRAP.

@bjjolley

Жыл бұрын

@@binkwillans5138 so a hypothesis is a...?

I am sure this hit my feed because I watched "Ancient Apocalypse" on Netflix. Interesting ideas to think about and indicative of our need to push back on so-called "settled science"!

Roger gives an excellent talk. I have wondered for most of my life, about the megaliths, that would challenge our abilities today. We have ancient maps, showing all parts of this Earth, not just the oceans, but correctly showing continental interiors. History is not what we are taught in school. We know that these mysteries were kept from our questioning minds. Roger may not fit TED Talks guidelines the way the guidelines are written. With respect, perhaps the Guidelines need to be revisited.

@disqusmacabre6246

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry. Questioning of established guidelines is beyond the boundaries of valid scientific inquiry. Your lack of adherence to these guidelines has been noted and records of your infringement will be maintained in case future action should be required. For everyone's sake, we must ask you you to refrain from implying guidelines could be wrong. Rest assured that if we are wrong, we will detect this and let you know about it.

@danieljanecka9492

Жыл бұрын

@@disqusmacabre6246 ...and then no one else will have ever heard of him...

@jesseribbey

Жыл бұрын

@@disqusmacabre6246 Are you being serious? I'm pretty sure I know the answer but I had to ask.

@Mrbfgray

Жыл бұрын

Not much was accurately taught beyond math and basic physics/biology if were lucky.

@terrydorland9152

Жыл бұрын

@@disqusmacabre6246 you need to push the boundaries of your mind! It's okay to stay in the little academic box you have created for yourself but you should have put in Windows and doors.

I think he came close to saying that 2DO would have provided the ideal vantage point from which a satellite with a solar-generated, basalt-cutting capability could orbit. I can interact with mainstream media to gain mundane information; however, I watch TedX to push my boundaries. Thank you TedX for airing this, even if you gave it a qualifier.

@davidanderson2357

Жыл бұрын

Wait... are you suggesting that a satellite could use some sort of solar-powered laser to cut GROUND-BASED basalt rock from hundreds of miles up in SPACE???

@PhiloSurfer

Жыл бұрын

He came close to suggest that 2DO can be used as a space-based weapon.

@STho205

Жыл бұрын

I don't think he was going there hypothetically. He did hypothesize mirror or solar collecting satellites outside the van Allen belts and Magnasphere that would limit solar radiation...then beaming such energy to earth or providing extra sunlight for places along that orbit. One might hypothesize energy collectors or converters on earth to use such energy. Astrophysicists have been discussing this as a 2nd stage Civilization possibility for future centuries since the 70s....after we have converted all potential energy on earth....or as an alternative to localized electrical energy plants like we experience the last 140 years.

Keep up the very good work and don't slow down, we need answers.

I've watched so many Ted Talks over the years that I "almost" stopped watching them. THIS talk though is one of the most riveting and interesting and well vocalised that I've ever seen. It is also inspiring and I thank you Roger Gilbertson from the bottom of my heart.

Weird that Graham Hancock got banned from TED for saying these things.

@angrytedtalks

4 жыл бұрын

Not really. If Graham Hancock said those things he should be rightly laughed out of town. This guy is also a sensationalist and not an archaeologist or astro physicist. He may be an innocent ignoramous, but so long as he advertises that his childlike fascination is not science, I'm OK with his time wasting.

@rachiesayd9423

4 жыл бұрын

@@angrytedtalks I see why you are called "Angry Ted"!!! Jeeez man, lighten up already!!!

@angrytedtalks

4 жыл бұрын

@@rachiesayd9423 I am often unimpressed with Ted talks, hence the avatar. I'm pretty chill IRL.

@rachiesayd9423

4 жыл бұрын

@@angrytedtalks you don't seem very chill to me!!! But then I am accustomed to civilized people who don't project or ascribe intentions and personal thoughts to others!!!

@angrytedtalks

4 жыл бұрын

@@rachiesayd9423 Then why are you in the comment section of a controversial pseudo scientific pop archaeology video? When people spout this sort of bunk they expect to be called out. Of course they hope to indoctrinate more gullible fools and make money out it as sensational fantasy.

TED: You have deteriorated over the years, these are the type of talks I listen to! Innovative, fresh, inspiring and outside the box! I thought you was supposed to be making change possible! Without new ideas we become stagnant! A lot of people agree and you WILL lose the respect you gained from intelligent people! Look at the safire project, innovative and will change our understanding of the universe but was fringe a matter of a year ago. History will judge those who held humanity back and you are now prime suspect! Humanity is moving forward while you move backwards!

@becomepostal

Жыл бұрын

It's not innovative. It's pseudoscience. Where are the proofs? What are the claims? It's empty.

insightfully compiled. While Ted explained about the different orbital positions and their ground paths and the ancient structures they crossed, it hit me. What if the continents were in their original positions all the way back to the one continent called Pangaea what would they cross, better yet what would they reveal? This just makes my mind go crazy thinking of the possibilities. Good job Ted; I always thought our history was a lot more complicated than what we were taught; this may not prove it, but it opens the door to many possibilities yet to be explored. It just may reveal the first civilization on earth and where its ruins are today.

@kayekaye251

Жыл бұрын

Now THAT is a question!

@cattuslavandula

10 ай бұрын

Yes, I thought the same thing. Civilizations that are far away today may have been closer to each other when they were alive. And maybe those land masses split apart much faster than we believe.

Astounding! I recreated Mr. Gilbertson's 2-day circular orbit in Google Maps based on the mentioned landmarks and added a couple interesting ruins and found this to be compelling.

Intriguing talk presented flawlessly by someone impassioned. I love it!!

TED’s guidelines could be expanded, but I’m glad they allowed this video. Fascinating topic... our human history. If you are interested in more info on this topic, look up ‘Suspicious Observers’, and Also Thunderbolt of the Gods by Talbott.

Absolutely great -- the true enquiring mind. Not just following things already accepted, but so refreshing, so inspiring. thank you Mr Gilbertson !!

I am just commenting so it could reach more people. Greetings from Poland

This lecture has singlehandedly restored my faith in TED Talks. Bravo!

@dragnar12

3 жыл бұрын

ted talk flagged this LOL

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" Arthur Schopenhauer.

Another Excellent TED talk! I, too, as a child saw the puzzle-piece layout of the continents and proposed they once all fit together. Adults and later teachers scoffed. Then, the scientists said, "Um ... hey ..." Also as a child when people said, "Why did the dinosaurs die out?" I said they didn't; they EVOVLED. More scoffing ... and now we know where birds came from. Sometimes the mainstream science community needs to look at fresh ideas from people not fully indoctrinated into their academia. They NEED an injection of innocent wonder, of the daring questions Why? and How?

Absolutely LOVED this talk! Yes, we need to acknowledge and start investigating the evidence for ancient civilizations that apparently had very advanced technologies. History needs rewritten. What are they so scared of?

@lauraevelynpaxton

Жыл бұрын

losing P O W E R

@allikawilliams1363

Жыл бұрын

@@lauraevelynpaxton DANG. That right there.

@leomarkaable1

Жыл бұрын

Historians don't have power, really. They just have salaries and mortgages like everyone else. They need the dough. Thus they have to keep their jobs. That is it.

For anyone passing by this comment. There are two specific things you should research. 1) Super flat surfaces. We're talking 8m long flat granite carved from the bedrock with a flatness of 1.1-3 micron deviations near Cusco. 2) Also look at the box at the Serapeum of Saqqara. Inside edge precision and squareness, in particular the inside edges. These two things show the same level of capability on opposite sides of the world. The box in particular shows that things like even diamond tipped circular saws could not manucature then due to the cutting radius precludes the inside edges and corners Technology to *measure* the micron level flatness has only existed since a few decades ago and many aerospace experts struggle to imagine how you would create them with their knowledge and capabilities. It is inconceivable that 'copper tools' could accomplish this feat when we could not operate at this level of capability until after accomplishing manned space flight. which suggests.... manned space flight was possible back when these surfaces were produced.

@cbjewelz

Жыл бұрын

Some idle thoughts: Was there some kind of natural phenomenon that created dead flat rocks (some relic of the ice age?). And they were all collected for construction. Or what about weathering where the wind might remove all irregularities due to natural aerodynamics? Could they have engineered devices that used gravity to chip away at rock in the dead vertical? So many questions, it's a fantastic mystery to contemplate.

@yestfmf

Жыл бұрын

You can very precisely hand grind a telescope mirror using a laser to find the rough spots. That would assume the existence of lasers. On another topic, they always say that the locals don’t show any evidence for having the ability to make a (fill in the blank). The same will be said about us. But we know that highly advanced items can be brought from a world away via UPS or fedex. But the ancients couldn’t? And they couldn’t hire contractors to do specialized work in out-of-the-way locations? We never do that today (insert sarcastic noise). If there was someone who knew how to do or make a particular thing, they would have bought it, same as us. You can buy a cheap laser at walmart, a better one on amazon.

@miles-thesleeper-monroe8466

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I'm an engineer and I'm baffled

I noticed that most of the important ancient sites lined up on the maps even when I was kid .. and now this guy makes more sense of it , I always wondered ...

Wow. This is incredible. Magnificent work!

This talk was fantastic. We need more.

This intelligent man literally worked with rocket scientists to help encourage his own curioisties that later made mathematical sense. He did research, followed his own theories, expanded the present knowledge into unimaginable lengths that can help venture out into a greater discovery and he is being flagged for that? It’s disappointing and wrong for that to have happened. Great work man, hopefully you get the credit and recognition you deserve when the world jumps onto this road of discovery you have paved the way for.

Good talk on an old idea. The new orbit is fascinating. Maybe some of the sites that don't intersect your specific orbit line up under an orbit with a different inclination. Thanks for adding to the weight of evidence that we need to investigate these things.

" The largest stonework humans have ever done." I may be wrong, but we really don't know who accomplished the megalithic stone work, but I'm guessing it may not have been the work of "humans" at all, the size is one reason and the perfection of the execution in antiquity is another.

I too noticed the way land masses (such as Ireland and UK mainland) looked like they could fit together, when I was a kid in primary school in the 60s. I told no one, as I assumed it would be impossible.

@dinyhotmail

Жыл бұрын

Are you familiar with Doggerland? If not, you should look that up. The world has had periodic ice ages followed by melting that caused flooding over much of the world. That is science fact. There have also been local floods for various reasons throughout history. The problem is that archaeologists negate the possibility of previous civilizations prior to floods which washed away most evidence of those civilizations. History has to be linear even if that means that they have to coverup evidence to the contrary.

@TransoceanicOutreach

Жыл бұрын

Ireland does not 'fit' into Great Britain, they were never any closer than they are now. These is no fault or spreading zone between them, and there never has been. I mean what on earth are you talking about?

@sophierobinson2738

Жыл бұрын

@@TransoceanicOutreach There was a time, the Ice Age, when dry land connected Ireland and the UK. If you call being covered with 3 mile deep ice “dry”.

@OlPossumOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Lol ever heard of Pangea?

I am very interested in the arcane long deep past of humans! Ancient unknown cultures, developments, civilizations, etc. This is one of the best TED talks I have ever heard!!! If there is any way we can discover the answers to the forgotten past, we should absolutely spend the time money and effort to do so!!! There is no telling what mysteries we could solve!!!

@mattsapero1896

Жыл бұрын

Please read Sitchin. He explains all of this in a cogent manner. Sagan generally rejected ancient astronaut theory. That was an egregious mistake.

@wrathonheirs7680

Жыл бұрын

If you like this have a look at Graham Hancock’s TADtalk Fascinating

@stephaniesmith5326

Жыл бұрын

I also liked Sitchin's book The Lost Book Of Enki. What a great read. And I think he was genuine in his interpretation and translations. Aside from that Giants are a great interest I have. I once heard of an experiment involving two Parana fish in two separate tanks. One tank held regular oxygen levels and the other higher oxygen levels. The Parana that had the higher oxygen environment grew much larger than the Parana with the regular oxygen levels. So if the Earth had a higher oxygen level in ancient times Giant Humans could have been a reality, I think.

@mattsapero1896

Жыл бұрын

@@stephaniesmith5326 Please keep in mind that Sitchin wrote “LBOE” as the last one at the end of his career and he clearly said he was filling in the blanks from broken tablets. Have you read his Earth Chronicles series? Please read all 7 books in order!

@chrisfreebairn870

Жыл бұрын

@@mattsapero1896 to say Sagan was egregiously mistaken is a very grand claim; one of the greatest human scuentific intellects of all time challenged by who exactly .. You?

NOTE TO TED: This talk has an idea worth spreading.

@Dan1ell

4 жыл бұрын

@joe blow Actually Joe I don't just read, I travel. While you were reading Wikipedia on your couch, I went to Machu Picchu, and many other ancient sites in Peru, under the guidance of Brien Foerster, an actual expert on ancient structures. It was not built 1400 years ago, regardless of what you have painstakingly read.

@craigsimpson9561

4 жыл бұрын

No, it does not. All you have to do, is shift his "magic orbit" by a few degrees of longitude, and his entire theory dissolves. Do you not recognise that? Load up and orbital calculator and confirm it for yourself, by all means.

@Chloe_Priceless

4 жыл бұрын

@@craigsimpson9561 Maybe in those 10 Thousands of Years the Kontinents has slightly moved so that 13k Years ago it would maybe perfectly align ?

@detroitfettyghost8492

4 жыл бұрын

@@Chloe_Priceless that's pretty much already scientifically been proven to have happened, if I can find this comment again I'll link info to back up my statement🙂

@damienthefrensh

4 жыл бұрын

Most of what he has said has been debunked already for years, his idea is counterproductive by the fact that they are ideas that have been spread by people selling books, very good writers in deed, but they are selling their ideas without solid evidence all though they are pretending that they have proof, some things he says is true but it is mixed up with a lot of things that are inaccurate. It’s called pseudoscience and even though a lot of people doing these conferences have good intentions and think that what they believe is true, most of them are scammers and are just doing so to sell their next « great book revealing the truth » or any punchlines of that sort does the trick. Please don’t believe me, look it up yourself.

Absolutely Stunning I really like this guy. We need more of him and his thoughts....Amazing

You flagged it? This man is fantastic!! FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

As a non-native speaker I didn't completely understand the first part and his urge to find orbits (?), but when it came to that one orbit crossing these ancient sites I was totally hooked! Really, really fascinating stuff.

@blacksquirrel4008

Жыл бұрын

I am, and I still didn’t follow what, in fact, he was initially looking for.

Come on Ted, “we’ve flagged this video for falling outside content guidelines,” and what might those be? I’ll venture a guess: anything that strays from orthodox dogma? Usually the biggest leaps are made in all areas of inquiry by brave and imaginative people willing to push the boundaries and go beyond what is otherwise considered acceptable. It’s shameful to flag presentations like this and others in a similar vein.

@YouuRayy

4 жыл бұрын

"Science advances one funeral at a time."

@st.armanini9521

4 жыл бұрын

My favourite example: Hans Berger invented electroencephalography (the EEC, basically) because he wanted to... prove telepathy was real. I know many prominent figures who - today - are scourning people like him. They just won't learn the lesson.

@carlosandleon

4 жыл бұрын

that's true but you can't expect a new finding to have instant recognition everywhere. Jesus Christ. What people lack is patience. You need more information to back up the claims. It will come in its own time. Don't be so hasty

@agargamer6759

4 жыл бұрын

Not defending TED, this kind of stuff deserves our attention for sure. I think it is just the practical reality of discussing subjects like these that it inevitably draws the crackpots and conspiracy theorists. While this talk was very well presented and reasonable considering the evidence, I can't say the same for the comments.

@fumusfumus

4 жыл бұрын

For more compelling evidence search out Randal Carlson’s “Kosmographia” on KZread and the work of Brien Forster and Graham Hancock. This speaker has plagiarised parts of their work and summarised it. The fact he’s wholly based on them and hasn’t credited anyone is despicable. He’s an opportunist not a legitimate advocate although he may have the promoting skills to get funding

IMO- this talk was very intriguing, and informative and inspiring. It’s good when the audience is left with more question that feed curiosity. By doing so creates more minds to discover the things that may fall within the guidelines of your program.

Just finished watching this very interesting talk, and then reading many of the comments. Now on to the next recommended video... ...Oh look! It's a list of TEDx talk videos -- ALL THE WAY DOWN!

TED: this guy is right on all his points. This was an amazing talk. The standard story doesn't fit the evidence. I can say that as a classically trained scientist in both anthropology/archeology and engineering.

@paulchaisson8301

4 жыл бұрын

Be nice to see that evidence.

@Hexnilium

2 жыл бұрын

Tools were used a couple million years ago. Humanity and hominids have a much longer history than most believe.

@judsonwall8615

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hexnilium When you say tools, though, you are referring to crude stone tools. We’ve known for a while, and no one refutes, that early hominins used tools. Tools are 2+ million yo, fire 1 million, boats at least 750kya. Early hominins were smart. But we already know this and the established theories all take that into account already.

@DrinkingStar

Жыл бұрын

I taught science for 38 years. I agree with you. Sciences requires questioning in order to arrive at explaining and understanding what exists(= truth)

@wrathonheirs7680

Жыл бұрын

It’s a rare day indeed that at scientist would even say that in public Well done you

An excellent brief of Graham Hancock decades of research on the field. Very refreshing to hear such interesting ideas be put to scrutiny.

@lauraevelynpaxton

Жыл бұрын

no mention of Hancock. :(

@Driberton

Жыл бұрын

For good reason

@gaetanomontante5161

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Yes! "We, Autocrats, shall forever attempt to ban ideas and work outside our permitted fields", said all the penguins of "established Academia" in a chorus of consonant voices. "Anything/everything laying outside our dictates, must be destroyed, else our ignorance be exposed and destroyed in turn." And yes, "we are ready to die in/with the sinking ship," spoke the fools.

Excellent coverage of the truth! Thank you!!!

This looks like a great map of where archeologists should continue to dig for additional possible sites… “made by humans,” made by earthlings yes, humans - maybe, but truly a witness that previously a civilization more capable than our own-collapsed.

Douglas Vogt, Chan Thomas, Michael Cremo, Ben Davidson, Wallace Thornhill, Randall Carlson and, of course, Graham Hancock. The way forward.

@MindsEyeVisualGuitarMethods

4 жыл бұрын

And Brian Forrester too

@butts4653

4 жыл бұрын

if theyre the way forward we're not going to be moving forward for long

@fightapathy416

4 жыл бұрын

@@butts4653 Examining and explaining inconvenient details of our past is a way of moving forward.

@butts4653

4 жыл бұрын

@@fightapathy416 i just mean if you listen to what some of those guys are saying, human civilization is about to take a huge leap backwards very soon.

@angrytedtalks

4 жыл бұрын

Wankers. Every last one. Not science, just sensationalism.

This is one of the most fascinating and progressive talks I ever watched on TED ever. For TED to flag this as "Outside" of its guidelines is ridiculous at best. We need more thinking outside of the box and less traditional science. We have stalled in progress as a people/race due to the standard or norm of thinking. There is so much unexplained on this planet and it concerns all that TED is not pushing for discovery or promoting thinking outside of the box. The TED way is why man still has not made it to Mars or beyond. Limited thought, limited conversation, limited insight, and limited vision.

@sevenravens

Жыл бұрын

According to TED the science is ‘settled’.

@Justyouraveragejosh-

Жыл бұрын

This is so embarrassing of TED

@pazsion

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@gaetanomontante5161

Жыл бұрын

@@sevenravens Hahahah . So funny... and so true!!!

I admire every person who investigates our very ancient history with an open mind. Thank you Mr Gilbertson. Mankind is much older than most people think. Civilizations come and go in a cycle because the Earth is suffering from a recurring natural disaster. That is what ancient books as the Indian Mahabharata and the Mayan Popol Vuh, tell us. There is one long era in which mankind can develop to even a higher level than we know today, succeeded by four shorter era in which people reach only a low level. The high level civilization knew that, and when, they would disappear because of the next recurring disaster. They must have decided to build the Great Pyramid and many other enormous structures to tell us that they existed. And surviving places high in the mountains as Machu Picchu. The cause of this cycle is Planet 9, which is orbiting our sun in an eccentric orbit. That planet is only shortly in the vicinity of the sun and the planets. It crosses the ecliptic planes of the planets at a very high speed and disappears into space where it slows down and makes a loop to come back thousands of years later. If you don't know this cycle, history is incomprehensible. To learn much more about the recreation of civilizations, the cycle of recurring floods, and ancient high technology, read the eBook: "Planet 9 = Nibiru". You can read it nicely on any computer, tablet or smartphone. Search for: invisible nibiru 9

The answers to some or even all of these questions maybe answered in Gobekli Tempe and the very newly discovered Karka Tempe. Karaka appears older, maybe by several thousand years, than Gobekli. It will just take 20+ years to get to them as what we have to remove isn't dirt or sand, but items that are themselves valuable archeological evidence that may even play into this in ways we can't know right now. And then of course they would be in areas prone to civil unrest. The size and scale of these two sites left to uncover are astounding. All the questions Gobekli raises and we have uncovered less than 10% of it! I am so glad that us "fringe" historians that believe the evidence shows a globe spanding civilization 10,000+ years ago are now in the more mainstream. And to think this all started in 1990's with the realization the Spinx has torrential rain damage.....

18:00 He mentions underwater drones "looking for ancient sites, roadways, seabed relics...". Part of my job in the past 40 years was analyzing hi-res bathymetry and hi-res seismic data for offshore site surveys on the US continental shelf (up to +/-600' water depth) prior to drilling/pipeline/cable operations. Part of the written report (public information) was a check for seafloor or shallowly buried potential 'habitation sites'. There were a few seen over to 50 or so 3miX3mi sites I worked on, usually buried under a few meters of sediment (several thousand years worth by paleontology, indicating that sea level has risen and/or the land has subsided) and located near to a now-buried stream channel. The US Geological Survey, Bureau of Land Management, and the Bureau of Indian Affairs were always interested in those sections of the report, and we always had to avoid doing any operations directly over or near those areas.

@jender8022

4 жыл бұрын

Where are these reports?

@2Sugarbears

3 жыл бұрын

Or admitting to them...or attempting to explain them.

@bryanburnside9783

3 жыл бұрын

You found 50 or more habitation sites on the continental self of North America? And there is not a shred of this being researched or available to the Public. That is exactly how conspiracy theories are made. 3 x 3 mile sites are huge. I want real info and data.

@jedimasterretsamidej9220

3 жыл бұрын

Bryan Burnside get rich and fund your own initiative

@bryanburnside9783

3 жыл бұрын

@@jedimasterretsamidej9220 LOL Not likely. I have terminal cancer and have been retired on SS and a small pension for 10 years.

Great presentation Genevieve. Continue to do and share your work with us. Please.

Excellent, inspiring and motivating presentation!

I believe that history should have been and still should be pursued from these discoveries as a focal point. I can visualize the multitude of benefits.

If true, an orbit such as the one described here (a 2DO) which flies over all of these megalithic sites could also be re-positioned to fly over any number of other sites.

@fredfredrickson5436

4 жыл бұрын

The 2DO orbit is obviously where the obelisk resides.

@LoriDaFuque

4 жыл бұрын

@Blindshiva Please consider listening more closely to his explanation of why only certain trajectories can be used due to the nature of orbital mechanics.

@blindshiva2826

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoriDaFuque, with all due respect... @ 8:39 "I'm fine-tuning the orbit, 31 degree inclination set over a certain point on the earth and I find it has a number of really interesting and unusual properties." His "orbit" has a 31 degree inclination and it is "set over a certain point on the earth" . . . the altitude and inclination are enough to define the shape of the orbit . . . there are an infinite number of points over which such an orbit might pass. @ 4:37 "all right now we've got all this loaded up. The altitude, the inclination and the shape of the ellipse, the speed ... my brain is whirling" My brain is whirling also . . . apparently, he has pulled the altitude and speed from some place I am unwilling to explore. 😎

@LoriDaFuque

4 жыл бұрын

@@blindshiva2826 That leaves me with the question though: Do any other world sites line up in the same way that these ancient megaliths do with his 2DO? What other examples of orbits that line up with ancient sites are you able to share with me? Please and thank you.

@drmachinewerke1

4 жыл бұрын

Take the planet rotate on it axis about 25’ . Then look at the new equator Now follow the new equator around the globe. Interesting. We have been knocked off our axis.

I like what he's saying! He's absolutely right. We need to rediscover our missing past.

What an interesting Ted Talk! It did not hit me as being too far out. We all know about these recent archeological discoveries that we really can't explain and we usually ignore. There really is a mystery in our deep past that needs to be explored. How exciting!

Alfred Wegener 1915 Tectonics and the continental drift theory! Very interested to see if the straight line occurred on Pangea as well. Including the lives and habitats of the giants!

@donwayne1357

Жыл бұрын

Plates and saucers and teacups.

Proud to be fringe . Been there since I was a kid. One guy who has some excellent information if you are interested is Randall Carlson check him out at Geocosmicrex

@darrellwright

4 жыл бұрын

And John Anthony West, George Howard, Antonio Zamora, Robert Schoch and @Kosmographia @unchartedX on KZread

@tomheringer2047

4 жыл бұрын

And Brien Foerster.

@kylemackay3400

4 жыл бұрын

TED.... wonder where Ive seen this kind of Hiding of talks before..... OH YES.. Graham Hancock, THATS RIGHT & HE is working with RANDAL CARLSON!! Oh forgive me...

@toddprifogle7381

4 жыл бұрын

@@kylemackay3400 We must none be quiet.

@Skynet_the_AI

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the plug!

Get this man on JRE !

@thephuntastics2920

4 жыл бұрын

Hes blind , narrow minded , and not well informed,chasing the wrong ghosts

@KRIPP548

4 жыл бұрын

@@thephuntastics2920 Pothead Joe or this guy? LOL

@sns8420

3 жыл бұрын

Just Twiitered Joe on this, along with Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson

@scottlatter253

3 жыл бұрын

JRE is a state asset. Avoid.

Truly remarkable that this makes it onto TED. It marks an end to an era. Time to open your mind!

I’d always been wondering about those bags. And even if the connection between the orbit and the big stones and ancient location is just by accident, it’s a beautiful one. But about the granite stones, korund is the answer I’m afraid. At least for me.

This talk is awesome! It's cool to think about these kinds of things! I know I'm curious about ancient history!

watched the vid, good support for the YDIH evidence around us. i like his statement referencing carl sagan; 'extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence'. He adds that 'extraordinary evidence deserves extraordinary investigation.' I'm surprised this video hasn't been removed.

@friendlyone2706

2 жыл бұрын

I think I better download this -- too much interesting stuff disappears. Thanks for the warning.

Thanks to our speaker Roger Gilbertson. Yes, I do completely follow your line of reasoning, and likewise, but at 11-years of age in 1958, a few years before it was confirmed, I realised the African continent fitted well into its neighbouring continent, south America but thought little more about it. To move forwards, I put it to you that a very real disadvantage the West has manufactured for itself has been with multiple choice questions and the dilution of subjects taught in our schools. To develop creative minds and to stretch thinking requires; art, craft, theology, but where it covers all religions equally (Histories, society impacts and so on), and could also include the foundation course for say, Fine Art, which would provide a good depth of understanding of graphics 3D modelling for design and architecture and much more besides to open minds up to possibilities. My point is that we have to stop restricting the minds of our children with a load of TOSH (Teaching Only Short Hand… responses), largely taught in infant and primary schools, potentially implementing a form of Mind Control (readers...please do not shout out a no, but go and research with an open mind and learn to be shocked at the reality of how teaching has failed in our over structured teaching methods). What needs to be removed is all multi-choice questions, instead let their minds reason the answers and learn that life is about putting in the effort to get out of life a positive result. This is the problem in the whole of the West. a few centuries ago gaining a degree meant standing for a long, long time in front of the universities management, including the dean an' all. The purpose was that you had to show you had 'really acquired in depth knowledge' of your subject by speaking all of your examination question out loud to the college management team. When I went to school only 2% in the UK had a degree and now forty percent of the UK school children attend university to serve in fuel stations and fast food centres and too often not much more for too many degree holders. Me? I left school and home at 15-years and provided automation that helped put the London Stock Exchange online to hundreds of brokers and the world's first online bank in 1984, but my west London secondary school (Featherstone's) provided and excellent foundation for me to continue reading, questioning and absorbing. The ability for pupils and secondary students to reason with a developed rationale has been dampened down! Has this been purposeful so that they challenge their governments less and less...maybe. Academia does not like challenges to their written essays, papers, and curriculum, and therefore changes this would bring. This seems extraordinary and contrary as science is meant to be an ongoing challenge, otherwise we do not develop our technologies and move forwards solving our society’s problems. Perhaps that was what also happened to our forefathers you are seeking to discover more about; one wonders if the human mind is capable of reaching near to discovering the what, where, and how of our heaven(s) but like an over-revving engine loses power dramatically as the tachometer moves into the red area on the dial and the vehicle soon comes to a crashing halt.

looking forward to reading every comment on this, meantime, this is a subject that has lead me on an endless journey, that began over 12 yrs ago; Your take on this is brilliant, thank you for this great share.......

Hi, I was the curator for this talk - I just want to clarify TED's flag. They felt uncomfortable with Roger's claims about the ways humans settled North America, and civilizations beyond the continental shelf, as well as comments about DNA, not the overall theme of the talk. Unfortunately, their default flag paragraph doesn't really capture which parts of the talk they had issues with, so for anyone watching the talk (which is about using science, not conspiracy theories to explain difficult questions), it's a bit confusing - it was confusing for me, too, so I called them. I could have done better making sure every one of Roger's claims was appropriately cited and helping to guide him to stay away from scientifically phrased claims that were outside his expertise. We're all learning a lot in western culture in the last few years about the importance of intentionally fact-checked, appropriately couched science communication, and I'm glad TED has guidelines to help TEDx curators do this thoughtfully. It's not easy, but it is important. Hopefully, that clears up the strange flag confusion in the comments! Keep bravely asking big questions and endeavoring to examine the evidence thoughtfully. Thanks for watching :)

@jender8022

4 жыл бұрын

Umm, what? "claims about the ways humans settled North America, and civilizations beyond the continental shelf" - 18:02-18:03, the speaker says ' the light blue is continental shelf, and we need to see what's out there', prior to that, he'd said: here's the science, showing the water level was lower (ie: what is now continental shelf was land.) Umm, that's pretty much true (or are you claiming that's false?). Doggerland connected UK to Europe (and species' flow DNA, corroborates, AFAIK), there was the city found off Egypt that was underwater, etc, etc, etc. So, please show where he's claiming civilizations *beyond* the continental shelf? He's saying, stuff that's currently underwater would've been the coast (and current human civilizations love the coast). Yes, he needed some cites, as he's drawing a very big picture. His hypothesis might be wrong as he's implying ancient human astronauts beaming down solar power to move stuff (maybe it was aliens, or flying spaghetti monsters) - and possibly a war (which might be referenced by the Mahābhārata), but all he's saying is: Can we science some things, and look for evidence which will prove or disprove some ages of existing rock megaliths, and examine places that would've been key places to put civilizations in the deep past? I'd be interested to know how fast the edge of the continental shelf degrades, as stuff that was on the edge might've fallen off into the deeps over the last 13K years.

@kennethmikaelsson7990

3 жыл бұрын

If this is confusing for you you should not be the curator... One good example is Doggerland and what they have been trawling up around the coast-lands around the world..

Nice orbit calculations. The problem with associating all those sites is that they are non-contemporaneous, but thousands of years. Still some underwater archeology of the continental shelves couldn't hurt. The first place to look would be Doggerland, between European mainland and the UK/Ireland. It was once inhabited.

@briannadavidson7079

Жыл бұрын

I don't see how the time the sites were built make it any less peculiar as to why they were constructed at the locations they were. It actually only makes it that much more puzzling since even with them being built thousands of years apart they were constructed all along the same orbit pattern which makes it that much less of a coincidence and therefore associate themselves rather than it being a "problem " with the speaker associating them.

Really neat stuff. The end of the pleistocene and the disappearance of the megafauna certainly seems to match everything of which he speaks. So many lost civilizations with no explanation. Keep up the good work.

@jeannettehope670

Жыл бұрын

The megafauna of Australia disappeared well before the end of the Pleistocene, at least 40,000 years ago.

@jelink22

Жыл бұрын

Whaaaaa? The only evidence any of these "lost civilization" guys ever offer is the lack of evidence for a loss civiliation. they can't point to a single artifact---no tools, no skeletons, no dwellings, no cities.

@JamesComstockCages

Жыл бұрын

@@jelink22 Lots of lost cities, not totally advanced, but all over the globe and connected through pyramid shaped structures.

This man is absolutely right. If we want to evolve as a race, we must first understand our ancient past and relearn so much more lost knowledge. I believe that the human race has been far more advanced in the far distant past but due to world cataclysm, we lost those who could teach and pass down that information. When we are struggling just to survive until tomorrow, keeping a record of our past is not on your list of important things to do and after hundreds of generations, it is not impossible to imagine how we lost our knowledge of past accomplishments. Enough time passes and all that we create returns to nature and sinks back into the Earth's crust to be recycled. No ancient aliens, only ancient humans and lost knowledge!

@wafrikano

Жыл бұрын

Yep exactly, although I do still believe other life exists out there in the universe.. I just don't think they played much or any part of progress

This guys is saying : “ we need more science to prove facts “ TED: “we do not approve the narrative of this speech “

@scottwoodsatayephonerepair879

4 жыл бұрын

rutiglianoweb next week new video = banned ted talk!!

@brucecovert3188

4 жыл бұрын

Who is TED anyway

@patriciamitchell1401

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, who is TED, and why do we listen to him, anyway?

@rogerlmoore4544

4 жыл бұрын

TED is short for Theodore. Also: Technology, Education and Design.

@angrytedtalks

4 жыл бұрын

@@rogerlmoore4544 no, it is short for Edward. I am Ted, "Edward Bear" or "Teddy Bear".

Thinking outside the box is always good, once you know what's inside the box.

@brucehavens1458

4 жыл бұрын

Walt F. Beautifully stated -simple and fully factual- I’m sure a term exists that covers exquisite statements such as this but I have yet to know of it- to me this statement is both the open and close of the subject that requires no proof or clarification- I may be a kook but I’m a kook who enjoys giant statements that come in simple little word groups that simple observers gloss over without notice

@Skynet_the_AI

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, inside the box are processed substances. I don't like boloney!

@joeharris3810

4 жыл бұрын

If you don’t think outside of the box you stay inside it

@karensagal8230

4 жыл бұрын

@@joeharris3810 Yes, some people think its safer to stay inside the box, and at times it might be. It doesn't mean it it is better to do so.

This was a great talk. Thank you for challenging modern science as they do not seem to be willing to challenge the obvious. We can see how there is an alignment of ancient and mysterious structures, my question is "why"? Is there some geomagnetic, geothermal, or other earth anomaly that suggests the "why" behind building of these fantastic megalithic sites on these exact points? I'm left wanting more!

Gosh, all these questions. Maybe talk to archaeologists, geologists, and historians who already study this. Posing a question as an unknown to you doesn't mean the answer is unknown. And props to Jim Poland for STK, he's great.

I have found over the years that many of those in charge get upset when you think outside of their box. The exception is when a solution is needed that did not fit inside their box. That type of situation does not happen very often. If it appears to be just the thing needed it becomes their idea.

@cocodesuplex547

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like work.

@addiumuppicus5738

4 жыл бұрын

Warren Puckett , brings to mind a quote . . . . if my addled mind could just recall the author . . . . . it goes like this ;" It is dangerous to be correct in matters of which the established authorities are wrong . " Voltaire's quote I believe it was, and still accurate today . . . . . .Oh , and the originator not getting the credit is actually a law . . . . again , the mind isn't what it was or I could tell you what it's called . Perhaps later when the orbit brings it back . . . . .=-) Short orbit or a very fast vehicle I guess . The ' event ' is known as ' Stigler's law of eponymy. ' Also the norm nowadays it would seem . Be well Warren as it seems we are of the age of forgotten wisdom now unwanted being a truth you and I know from experience . ( When I can remember it that is ! LOL ! ) In your comment above I have to agree, and citing the law of eponymy it explains their dilemma as the original idea not being theirs but stolen . Understandable this puts them in panic as they have not the skills to defend themselves as a depth of understanding isn't nor was it ever theirs . So in self defense they dismiss another viewpoint or as you say thinking outside the box they never actually occupied . . . . . Sad . Explains why most if not all Liberal politicians turn to hate/racism/baseless claims or false accusations to divert from the truth they don't understand , or care to if it is counter to their objectives . Why they are so poor at debating and turn it into a yelling match or just don't allow the others viewpoint to be voiced . Reminds me as there was someone elsewhere on here commenting on the virtues of socialism which would allow them to not be constrained by the education system of today . . . . . .LOL ! ! ! There are those who will blindly believe that being the sad thing . Again , be well .

@becomepostal

Жыл бұрын

The guy in the video doesn't provide any solution...

I, for one, welcome our 3DOverlords :) Stellar work, man! Hope this lays the basis for some groundbreaking research in the future.

That's Fantastic!! My thought exactly!! It has intrigued me for some time now. And why no one questions something (facts) that obviously doesn't fit the official historical narrative. Thank you very much for that Mr. Roger. Im not in wrong direction.

I agree there is a lot of overlooked exploration that needs doing. But it costs money and time and expertise. The resources available are scant, so they are apportioned to explore what seems likely. But if the theories about 'what is likely' are wrong, we are missing rich veins. And we cannot put down the unexplained puzzles because of our enquiring minds. We need to understand how 1,000-ton stone blocks were moved, way back at the beginning of the formation of permanent human settlements that agriculture made possible, or which were even laid before then. It would be great to find a genuine piece of ancient 'modern' technology, but we never have, which is instructive, and means it either never existed, or we genuinely are looking in the wrong places. Coming back to why the mentioned ancient structures fit along a line, well there are lots of ancient structures, so obviously some will, but why would ancient people do that? We don't. If there were ancient technologists then, like us, they would not have any need to do that. So in that sense, the starting premise is wrong. And if we discard that, then really, much of the argument falls away. Except for the question of machining and moving 1,000-ton blocks, and for me, that would be THE thing to find an answer for.

@mpetersen6

Жыл бұрын

I agree that the structures along that particular line were probably cherry picked to get the group. But it is curious the grouping they got.