I hope we use the traditional RP accent more! It’s everything that’s British and it’s the proper Queen’s English.

I really appreciate how you mention the difficult words on the screen while you're speaking! That's really thoughtful!

@EnglogicSam

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! 🤩🤩

Another great video! I admire the amount of work/research you put in your videos, and I love it when you throw in a personal detail, view or experience. As for how you sound, I wouldn't worry if I were you. Nobody likes listening or watching themselves back. What attracted me to your channel was, besides your expertise, your accent, diction and pronunciation. You don't sound (or look!) cold or unfriendly at all. Quite the contrary :)

@EnglogicSam

9 ай бұрын

Awww thank you so much for saying that! It really is something that worries me so I'm relieved to know it doesn't put people off and, if anything, it draws them to my channel! 😉🤩😍

Thanks, man! American accent coach here. Helpful to continue to study the differences between Trad and Mod RP.

@EnglogicSam

3 ай бұрын

Thank you, Matthew! It means a lot coming from a teacher 😉🤩

1. Oh, Sam, it is literally impossible for you to be seen as a posh guy. You know very well that we perceive a person through their manner of being, non-verbal language and gestures, not just through the way they speak. And I see you as a friendly, kind, life-affirming person. As a foreigner, I don't care about accents that much and I don't judge people that way. Your videos, so clear and well delivered, teach me a lot and that is all that matters. 2. In Poland, we lost a lot of local accents after WWII (borders changed, people migrated and mixed, villagers were ashamed of their culture, communist victimised intelligentsia). Now, only some parts of Poland preserve their specific accents (mountains, Silesia, east wall). Normally, I can't say - only by their accent - if someone is rich, poor, well educated or not. Of course, there are other ways to asses. And young people use slang a lot and I know I'm old when I don't catch what they are talking about. It's more important than accent. 3. I can't hear the difference between ea-ee sounds in the video.😢 It is all so subtle for me... Thank you a lot.😘

@EnglogicSam

9 ай бұрын

1.That's a wonderful comment to read, thanks! 🤩😍 And it's great to know people see my videos and me like that, thanks! 😊 2.I see! And that's a good point: slang is also an important part of how languages evolve 3. Don't worry at all: it is subtle indeed and I probably don't do the diphthong as accurately as I should because I only ever do the modern /ee/, so just keep doing that and forget I've ever even mentioned the diphthong 😜

Hi Sam! Great video! I've already watched it twice! Languages are evolving in a very unpredictable way all over the world.

@EnglogicSam

9 ай бұрын

They are indeed! Thanks for watching it TWICE 🤩🤩

Heya Sam, I look forward to following the second part of traditional RP and modern Rp In my opinion this needs to be taught in schools ! !

@EnglogicSam

9 ай бұрын

Thanks, Giuseppe! Looking forward to hearing what you think of the second part. There is a bit that sounded and felt better while I was doing it but didn't quite translate on camera, so get ready to laugh (I'm sure you'll know exactly which part I mean when you see it) haha Yes, schools should give some kind of notion of how accents work in England 😔

You shouldn't worry about your accent. Your videos are the best to improve pronunciaton and to learn about phonetic. Having an accent tells who you are, the important, for us students, is to be understood and, for our personal satisfaction, to pay off our commitment, obviously the clearer the better! You're doing a great job and your videos make the difference for people that are self students

@EnglogicSam

9 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for saying that, Maira! It's great to hear my videos are so helpful! 🤩 And sorry for my late reply but I'm on holiday 🙊

Thank you very much for this video. I find the UK quite fascinating, that's why I want to learn more about accents.

@EnglogicSam

Ай бұрын

I'm really glad you've found it useful! 🤩 Oh, we have all sorts of accents over here so you'll most definitely be kept entertained and intrigued 😉

@NGT_096.

Ай бұрын

@@EnglogicSam Absolutely. Actually, I'm going to watch them now 😁

@EnglogicSam

Ай бұрын

@@NGT_096. Brilliant! Let me know how you get on 😉

Thank you, Sam❤

@EnglogicSam

9 ай бұрын

My pleasure! Thank you for watching! 😍

Thanks for this video. I have been learning English with a kind of RP pronunciation, given that I have payed attention to the phonetic symbols given in diccionaries like Oxford and Cambridge. I was worried about the fact that I could sound rather cold and pretentious. On the other hand, however, I like the way RP speakers, modern and traditional, speak and I would like to continue perfecting this accent because, to be honest, I feel much more comfortable with this accent than the other ones, and besides, I don't want to mix accents, for fear my English could end up sounding of low quality in the long run. As you can see, I have a kind of bittersweet perception about the accent I am learning. Thanks for expressing how you perceive your own accent, because when I pay attention to mine I feel kind of discouraged by the kind of emotionless style I have, despite the fact that many people people have told me that my English sounds quite well, including some teachers. By the way, some of these last ones told me that I sometimes sound like someone working for the BBC 😂. I really hope your channel becomes a success and I would be grateful if you could make more videos about RP with advice about how to make it sound more friendly.

@EnglogicSam

3 ай бұрын

I completely understand how you feel, Juan! First of all, you are doing the right thing not mixing accents. You need to learn and speak the accent that YOU like. The more RP you sound, the more foreigners will perceive you as snooty, that's inevitable and you can't do much about it. You will also find those who will admire the level you've reached: you can't please everyone. Native speakers will probably make a mental note of it but won't give it any thought. Over the years (and I'm still learning to think like that) I've realised that it's perfectly normal for people to make assumptions based on the way I speak, but then if they don't try to go past it and get to know me, it's their problem, not mine. Pure traditional RP doesn't sound friendly and we just need to accept it. Modern RP, on the other hand, can to a certain extent. If you watch interviews with Jonathan Bailey, as much as I love him, he doesn't sound friendly in most of them, also depending on the context and setting of the interview, because his accent tends to be on the colder side. I know mine is not much of an answer but this is a good idea for a potential video for me to look into, so I'll keep you posted 😉

Hola Sam. Hace tiempo que no veia uno de tus videos. Me ha gustado mucho. Saludos desde Chile 😊

@EnglogicSam

9 ай бұрын

Hi Nati! Nice to read your comment again and thanks for watching the video! 😉

Sri Lankan and other South Asian English accents have preserved some of the sounds of traditional RP.

@EnglogicSam

2 ай бұрын

I see! I didn't know that 😊

Very good video. Thanks for it. I asked you this because there are a lot of books about RP or general American English, but there's nothing (at least I don't know literature about) related to modern RP. And talking about connected speech... I asked you how you pronounced "my eyes" or similar combinations... I watched your video about it (through the link you shared) and I could see that you used jod sound /j/ in those cases. I use the same sound, but I asked because sometimes I've heard pronunciations like:"I saw a horse outside" /ai sɔr ən ɔːs aʊtsaid/ I know there are a lot of pronunciations like this which are not following the traditional model or kind of rule ( I mean rule... general or typical uses). So I thank you again. I hope you can give us more information about certain things of modern RP. 👌🧐

@EnglogicSam

9 ай бұрын

I see what you mean about that sentence. Now you know why we put /r/ between SAW and A 💪 the reason why some people say AN before HORSE is that in regional accents H is often dropped (don't do this in English exams or, well, EVER 😜) so if you drop the H, you need to use AN because the article is now before a vowel 😊

Sam, thank you for your videos. Like the last commentator said, could you do. video on intonation as well?

@EnglogicSam

Ай бұрын

I'm glad you liked it, Brian 😊 unfortunately, today my goodbye video is coming out as Englogic is coming to end. Thank you for your support and comments! 🤩😊

@brianhenderson2560

Ай бұрын

@@EnglogicSam Omg!! Why did you stop doing videos??

@EnglogicSam

Ай бұрын

@@brianhenderson2560 it's been three years and Englogic still makes me no money so I have to let it go, unfortunately 😔

@brianhenderson2560

Ай бұрын

@@EnglogicSam No way please don’t

@EnglogicSam

Ай бұрын

@@brianhenderson2560 it just makes no sense to continue 😔

Very interesting! I'm a native speaker of Southern British English, but I've lived most of my life outside the UK. I'm a professional translator, so my main interest so far has been the written language. I've recently begun to teach English to my Brazilian niece, who needs to learn it to speak to her Austrian boyfriend. Our shared language is Italian, but I understand Portuguese, so we are using the three languages, as and when appropriate. For example, Brazilian PT, like English but unlike Italian, has both a clear and a dark L (Lisboa/Lisbon vs Brasil/Brazil). I've noticed that my personal English accent is very close to "modern RP", but with some traces of "traditional RP". I pronounce "foot", "put", "look", the old way, but "soul", "coal", mole", the new way. I also noticed that I pronounce "fool", "pool", "rule" with a U sound similar to Italian or PT, while the sound in "mood", "food" and "crude" is more "central". Thanks again for this input! PS. Best wishes for 2024!

@EnglogicSam

5 ай бұрын

Sorry for my late reply, Francesco, and I hope you are enjoying the Christmas holidays 😉 I like analysing my accent the way you did yours and finding out how I say things and what twangs I have without even realising, and when I started studying and specialising in pronunciation, I was blown away by all the little things and sounds I didn't even know I was doing. Teaching your own mother tongue like you are doing is also very interesting in that respect, so have fun exploring! Happy new year 😉

@user-vr1mp2ef7d

5 ай бұрын

​@@EnglogicSam Thanks for your comments and best wishes.

The Queen sounded very good, I wish people the the UK could cherish it and learn it instead of discarding it. It’s a shame to lose this beautiful accent.

@EnglogicSam

9 ай бұрын

It's good to know that some people like it! Unfortunately, you won't find it much in England anymore, but do watch THE CROWN if you can, so you can hear it as much as you want 😉💪

@matthewclarke4127

6 ай бұрын

The Crown or classic Doctor Who. If you watch classic Doctor Who, you will see just how widespread the 'Queen's English' was a few decades ago. @@EnglogicSam

@EnglogicSam

6 ай бұрын

@@matthewclarke4127 Yes! 😉

What a great video, Sam! Thanks I suppose that now the so called "posh" speakers are stigmatized, which is wrong. If they say that no one can be judged by the way they speak, then don't judge the ones who were lucky enough to be well-educated. You don't sound snobbish at all! Being friendly doesn't depend on the accent one has. It's a shame that anyone feels like they have to justify anything or meet other people's expectations...

@EnglogicSam

9 ай бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it! Yes, accents and how they are perceived is definitely a tricky thing over here

Thank you for your videos, Sam! I feel the position of short i is different as well. For traditional one, i is in the back of mouth whilst for the modern one, i is in the very front of mouth, almost on the lip?

@EnglogicSam

7 ай бұрын

Hi Brian, I don't think they are actively different but traditional RP naturally uses the mouth a bit less 😉

@brianhenderson2560

7 ай бұрын

@@EnglogicSam Thank you for the replies, Sam? So you mean the mouth position is identical for both modern and traditional? Also Sam, what accent are you, modern, traditional or educated rp? Also Sam, is british accent, like rp, tone and pitch higher or lower than american? Some people say rp is lower but when I listen to speech spoken by rp speakers like Boris and Cameron, their voice seem quite high to my ears.

@EnglogicSam

7 ай бұрын

@@brianhenderson2560 yes, I'd say the mouth position is the same. I speak a mixture of everything, usually modern RP. As for tone and pitch, I'll be honest: I've stopped trying to compare them because there are too many variations. But I'd say pure traditional RP would be lower

@brianhenderson2560

7 ай бұрын

@@EnglogicSam Thank you for your replies, Sam! So you mean pitch for modern rp is higher than pitch for traditional rp? And you mentioned too many variations here, could you be more specific? You said there are only two rp accents.

@EnglogicSam

7 ай бұрын

@@brianhenderson2560 the more Traditional RP people speak, the lower the whole accent and voice will be. But everyone speaks modern RP in all sorts of different ways and energy now

I wish the pronunciation of silent sound would had been my biggest issue 😂 I have more problematic grammar issues that I need to learn😔

@EnglogicSam

9 ай бұрын

Just like you said, there are much more important problems than the difference between these accents, so, by all means, focus on those first 💪 Careful: I wish it WERE my biggest issue 😉

People mastering the most beautiful variation of english, i.e. old RP should stop apologizing for it.

@EnglogicSam

2 ай бұрын

❤️

FYI, most people who are searching for tutorials on traditional RP are fans of it, so to be five minutes into the video and still hear you basically saying it’s a bad thing for bad people, maybe it’s not something you should be doing a video on.

Tbh, you don't sound posh or snooty at all. Your accent is quite "common".

@EnglogicSam

5 ай бұрын

I'm not entirely sure 'common' is meant as a compliment or an insult here, but if it's a compliment, thank you 😉😜

@murphypaschal

3 ай бұрын

It's neither an insult nor a compliment, just a fact. No offence intended. I imagine that you have heard a traditional, clipped RP accent and a more modern toned-down version of it. Your accent is nothing like either versions of it. Many, many speakers believe they have an RP accent, either traditional or modern, but like many contestants in singing competitions, what they hear in their head and what comes out of their mouth is very different! The problem with trying to imitate an RP accent is that people believe that by focusing on individual sounds, they will be able to imitate it. There is nothing further from the truth. Actors being taught RP look at individual sounds but gain proficiency and authenticity through intonation as well. Indeed, most acting coaches focus more on this than individual sounds. RP has a very unusual intonation pattern. As you say, there is nothing wrong with different accents and there is nothing wrong with yours!

@brianhenderson2560

Ай бұрын

@@murphypaschalCould you elaborate how is the intonation different?

as a student of english i would like to speak with the "cockney" accent. it sounds cool

@EnglogicSam

2 ай бұрын

Personally, I would recommend aiming for a standard accent but if you like cockney, make sure you commit to it so you get a full accent, as it might sound a bit weird if there is a foreign twang to it. Let me know how you get on 😉💪

@sexorcismo

2 ай бұрын

​@@EnglogicSam Thanks for the response! I like cockney but i'm studying the "rp" accent. I think all english accents are nice to hear. My mother tongue is spanish. Sure! i'll keep in touch. I really enjoy your lessons!!

@EnglogicSam

2 ай бұрын

@@sexorcismo I see! Do go for a standard accent to begin with, then maybe play with it in the future 😊 I'll be talking a lot about Spanish in next week's video: let me know what you think! 😉