Let us know what you think of the movie.

@mylgardose

Жыл бұрын

Nature is Timeless

@StellaMoon60

Жыл бұрын

I loved it! I'm all for poking fun at elitism. I worked in service industries for most of my working life, and this was amazingly dark and hilarious!

@JSM270

Жыл бұрын

He didn't kill Margot. She checkmated him by challenging his ability to cook with love. That's ultimately what had him spare her. If he was proving his ability to cook with love, he wouldn't have used tainted meat. He was going to kill himself anyway, so he had no reason to take her along with him.

@crunchwrapsupremeleader6147

Жыл бұрын

Good movie, but your ending theory is dumb AF.

@AbhinavSafi

Жыл бұрын

While cooking the burger the meat seems fresh. I don't know if they failed to show us 152 days meat.

It’s not a bad theory, but I think she definitely lived. Everyone that he killed in one way or another made him lose his love of cooking and being a chef. She reignited it, if only briefly, and because he found that love one last time, She got away with her life.

@brayanvizcaino8060

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Plus! She never really ate her food until the burger! So the burger not being part of the menu meaning her not having a part in being there to complete it like everyone else! 😮

@Chefmike7545

Жыл бұрын

@@brayanvizcaino8060 nah you hear the clap after her second bite.

@Chefmike7545

Жыл бұрын

@@brayanvizcaino8060 they also talk about poisoned meat could kill someone.

@adamw116

Жыл бұрын

@@Chefmike7545 misdirection

@JSM270

Жыл бұрын

Every one of the other people represented a type of customer the chef would normally have in his restaurant. They all represented something. That's why they were so different. But they're all takers. He came to despise his core customer base, as they killed his love of cooking. He made clear from the beginning that he never wanted to hurt Margot, as she didn't belong there. He knew she wasn't the type of woman to ever step foot in one of his restaurants.

It's a nice theory but she wasn't meant to die. Slovik stated clearly she didn't belong there thus she is not part of the "Everyone must die or the menu doesn't work" her dying would be akin to a "wrong ingredient " or a "substitution" (there was suppose to be another girl that tyler brought) and Chef stated earlier "There are no substitutions at Hawthorne." Margot would be a substitution in his plans.

@PeopleStream

10 ай бұрын

Very thought out and well said

@Jon-6969

7 ай бұрын

Exactly. Emma Stone was supposed to die instead. Again.

@gtx1650max-q

Ай бұрын

​@@Jon-6969and uncle ben ?

The burger was not made with smoked meat. The deposit that is shown at the beginning of the film was for smoking meat or charcuterie as you call it smoked meat. When asked if eaten after a while they could be deadly, he refers to the smoking process of charcuterie that takes 152 days. I don't know of any hamburger meat that can be stored for that long.

@jcaashby3

Жыл бұрын

I had to scroll down way to far for anyone to point this out. The burger was cooked literally in front of everyone with......FRESH GROUND BEEF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@sweetchocolatesecret

Жыл бұрын

This should have more likes! It was made with ground beef, not smoked meat.

@dovkushnir7808

Жыл бұрын

I posted a comment saying this and then scrolled down to find this. Yes. 100%

@iceman5882

Жыл бұрын

Yup probably you are right but maybe it was mixed with smoked meat too. I really like this theory.

@ferafera20

Жыл бұрын

You've obviously never bought a burger from maccas. Them things can last decades

I imagine her looking up and and then taking a big bite out of the burger was essentially a victory lap. Part of her line of work is knowing the client, pushing their buttons for the desired outcome. She like the chef is very good at her vocation. She did exactly what she had to do based on what she knew about the chef to survive and did so perfectly. Thus the sound cue. Its her feeling some of the same disdain and resentment for the customers, the chef, as he did.

@JunkieMonkey321

Жыл бұрын

great point. he gave her what she wanted, and she gave him what he wanted, just like an escort would get money and a client would get their rocks off. "You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours."

@TabethaRay

Жыл бұрын

Totally agreed. I took it as she turned off the boat herself and watched the bright blaze from all the crazy people and crazy chef going up as well as the ass who signed her up to die. Could she still be killed off with the burger sure. But I think the point was her watching as you said and highlighting the similarities in her genius service and chefs.

@gemstar7286

11 ай бұрын

@@TabethaRay Yeah i don't think the burger killed her either, i think the whole cows meat poison thing was just to added for the sake of it.

She lives, and the Menu still worked because the only thing she ate was something not from THE Menu. Even the first dish had this very brief shot where Tyler took her food because she wasn't eating it. The other courses she didn't even bother to touch.

That’s a clever call back. But she did request the cheapest burger on the menu and the beef had no hint of dry aging.

@brandontsosie4514

Жыл бұрын

Could it be possible the cheapest meat was made from Tyler as he was hung to dry and be then became the cheapest meat?

@grantlawrence4600

Жыл бұрын

@@brandontsosie4514 What? LMAO.

@aditisk99

Жыл бұрын

@@brandontsosie4514 Nope the chef won't go that far.

@michaelb6349

Жыл бұрын

She said something along the lines of "no fancy avant-garde bullshit", and he responded "the cheap kind, the one your parents could barely afford"

@iwouldkillforyou

Жыл бұрын

It was cooked maybe rare or medium rare, so bacteria could still live. Notice the scene where he pressed it and it had visible red, maybe blood still.

The problem with this theory is that she already took a bite of the burger while at the restaurant. If the meat was off, then she would have had side effects by the time she took the second bite. My theory is that she was spared because she was innocent.

@nullisexquisite1371

Жыл бұрын

But your argument have a flaw tho. Didn't the Chef package it? So it would make sense that he could've possibly put poison

@poovanna4284

Жыл бұрын

@@nullisexquisite1371 yeah could be

@John-kv7jo

Жыл бұрын

@@nullisexquisite1371 Possible but not probable.

@TheAiket

Жыл бұрын

Speaking about the flaws in arguments I think this is the least coherent film I have seen in a long time. Therefore any point about this film could be argued from many angles What's the meaning of letting male guests run away. Why did everyone stop resistance in the end. What the hell goes in chiefs head where he does anything to please a customer in Margot's case and literally kills the rest against their will? If it's because of their sins why he planned to kill Margot too initially. For what purpose he wanted to know who she is, am I missing something or this just floats in the air... Of course I'm only digging this because I just don't like the film, saying it unironically

@surjithravi4398

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAiket Deep down, The chef thought, she is better than his usual customers. He knew everything about his diners. So of course he wanted to know her too. She is not rich or elite. He was even worried that she didn't eat some of the dishes he made. Its been a long time since he had such customer.

Her eating the burger was a nod of respect to the chef and showed her contempt for the other diners. She was on the chef’s side at that point.

@jetsamperes5762

Жыл бұрын

Also important to note that she asked how much her burger would 'set her back' and paid for it with a crumpled $10 bill. Safe to assume no other guest had touched dirty paper money let alone such a small denomination in a very long time.

@ajonesy174

Жыл бұрын

@@jetsamperes5762 or even asked the price probably.

@joahfidler8553

Жыл бұрын

The burger was her date

@ChristopherCraven

Жыл бұрын

You see a nod of respect in her facial expression on the very last shot? I just don't see it

@ChristopherCraven

Жыл бұрын

​@@jetsamperes5762 I'm sorry can you explain what is important about that? He already knew she was a woman of the night, why would the crumpled note be the moment he realises she's working class? A little over-analyzing I think

I never thought of it that way. That's a pretty solid theory but I just interpreted it as him letting her go because she made him love preparing food for someone else for a brief moment.

@omoddulus4933

Жыл бұрын

Yeah she's been a bit of an outlier and he has said as much. He doesn't appear to like when things go off script. So if she were to leave it doesn't ruin his plans. It's more like if she HAD to be involved at least have her add something to the menu which she did. Also she asked for a cheap, low quality burger so this would require likely just frozen store bought meat they had lying around. If she didn't get that she didn't get what she requested. And at no point does anyone die from the food. The food is supposed to be pristine. So he would not have given her BAD food. The meat section is a good observation though but I just feel like the imagery of meat hanging is to set a subtly creepy tone before we realize what's actually going on. I'm just thinking what else would they replace it with? A vegetable garden? As in I think it's not actually out of place so I don't think it has to mean more than what it seems to be. From a "oh yeah this could mean multiple things which is fun for the audience" point of view I can see where this is going. But from a character point of view I don't think it works with what we know about the characters.

@raghuharsha

Жыл бұрын

@@omoddulus4933 good one

@grantlawrence4600

Жыл бұрын

It's more that he just reverted to the person he used to be. When he was happy cooking food for people. He isn't completely aware of what he is doing when he sends her on her way. He only comes back to the present when she leaves, and he realizes that he now has to finish what he started.

@John-kv7jo

Жыл бұрын

She already took a bite of the burger at the restaurant. If the meat was off, she would have suffered side effects. One reason he let her go was because she was authentic, stood up for what she believed in and didn't need to curry favor with the Chef.

@meritorioustechnate9455

Жыл бұрын

It was all about meritorious-altruism.

Nope she lives. The last bite we see pause is for us. It’s to show us that the first bite wasn’t poison. That after all she’s been through, she finally feels safe enough to stop the boat and finish her burger. I believe this is the first time her true self is able to relax and that is what we are seeing. Free from peril. Free from hunger. She quietly enjoys her meal knowing she can simply wait till morning and navigate to land. Something she would not know how to do in the dark with no experience which she demonstrates by having a tough time even starting the boat. The boat doesn’t give out. She turns it off after she’s gotten far enough away. It’s nice to form alternate endings but I believe she earned the right to live by giving chef a piece of his joy back in making that burger and treating him like a human being instead of a servant. I believe that’s the message being conveyed. The pause was for us. One last is she going to live or die moment just for kicks. As for the meat scene that was all foreshadowing the many many deaths to come. I don’t see anything more in that scene. I believe it’s a bit of a reach to tie the beef to the burger because they made a point that they don’t allow the beef to spoil. Since the chef couldn’t have predicted she would ask for a burger, I highly doubt they kept a batch of bad beef around just in case. Further more once ashore even if the meat was bad she’d just be in the hospital for a bit. It’s a nice reach but a reach too far.

@anthonyursallato4673

Жыл бұрын

Amen

@tocororo

Жыл бұрын

Well. The "poison" described was more from a bacteria in the meat. I don't think it will act that quickly. So she could have perfectly taken the first bite the restaurant and still be infected and not notice for a while. As much as I like her to live I have to agree with the interpretation that she was killed. But that's why is an open ending.

@aaronwesley286

Жыл бұрын

It's ironic that this unbearably, overwrought analysis of yours is precisely what this movie is indicting

@sonicman9910

Жыл бұрын

@@tocororo But if it was from that specific mean he would be breaking the promise of it being 'the cheeseburger her parents could barely afford" it had to be pre ground meat

@SergiuNw

Жыл бұрын

She's still in the middle of nowhere on the boat. Unless she gets lucky somehow to survive till someone rescues her, she dies. The burger would be the easy way out, to not drown, burnt to death like the others or dying from starving.

It's actually just him letting her leave, the photo with the burger was the only one where Chef smiled. He loved making food and this took him back to his happy days. Only when she leaves he snaps back to finish off The Menu. 'Margot' wasn't part of said Menu.

@Tenney2004

Жыл бұрын

In a way Margot may have been apart of it. When she asked for a burger, that was more her real self, Erin, then Margot the date so it could be said that Margot did die in a way and we see Erin eating the burger, not playing the role much like Slowik wasn't playing the role of a master chef while cooking the burger, he was just himself enjoying cooking it.

The main issue was that she was never meant to be there in the first place. When he talks about serving the perfect menu, a big part of that is serving it to the people he chose. This is why it irked him constantly that she was there. In that way her leaving also helped him achieve the perfect menu

Having friends and relatives who are chefs with their own restaurants, I hear stories from them all the time that at end of a long day, they just want something simple for themselves, the theme in this movie really hits home.

@adamw116

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's either most likely in the movie Chef when Jon Favreau cooks his favorite special dish like the one for Scarlett, the hostess. Or they just want to make something simplistic and fast like a grilled cheese or a good hamburger.

@nadiabrandt2702

Жыл бұрын

As a chef, I can back this up.

@KW-lj6sr

Жыл бұрын

As a chef also, I can back this up. A long day of preparing and cooking only to come home late at night to do it all again?.. Grilled Cheese will do thank you! 😂

@miggy4667

Жыл бұрын

I agree, remember the animated movie *Ratatouille* where the most popular critique got moved by just a simple dish which hits home, memories, pure love and childhood experience. Margot lived because she moved Chef's heart and memories..

I think the way she tilts her head back I did think she was poisoned as well. But when she took the next bite it actually made me think she was going to be ok

@John-kv7jo

Жыл бұрын

She already had one bite at the restaurant. If the meat was off, she would have had side effects by the time she took the second bite.

@sammypanda

Жыл бұрын

@@John-kv7jo ya but the point is, why would you take another bite of a burger that made you feel queasy especially when it's a product of a pretty sus situation

@John-kv7jo

Жыл бұрын

@@sammypanda He was always going to let her go. She was the only innocent there. His plans unraveled when the guy's date broke up with him.

@its9333

Жыл бұрын

@@sammypanda not to overthink. But if bacteria from food is introduced into the bloodstream and kills someone, then that is a food borne illness and not just normal food poisoning. This would mean, she could go several hours before tasting or feeling any signs that something is wrong

@eldudereno204

Жыл бұрын

I never once thought. That she might have been poisoned.

He had absolutely no reason to kill her and a lot of reasons to let her live. He was very obviously wanting her to get away throughout the movie.

@tunatofu63

5 ай бұрын

She wasn't even supposed to be there. Her douchebag date never warned her about the danger even though he knew.

Don’t forget one important aspect of her character. She’s an escort by trade and by extension part of the exploited service industry - maybe even typifying this running theme. When Margot realizes the origins of Chefs master plan is based in revenge she has an insight into her own unique ability to control and influence, skills hard one as an escort. Margot, invited to join Chef and his crew in a death that sets them free from the inevitability that their passion will never truly please their customers, Margot realizes she is one of them, and has the skill of reading men and giving them what they want. Thus she stands up and claps challenging chef to a dual of power and influence over everyone (staff and guests). And Margot, demonstrating the virtue of her hard one ability to give men what they want, signals to Chef that it’s the skill born out of being a low class escort that actually prepared her to do the very thing elites could never do. Survive.

@altheaabrahamsen1975

Жыл бұрын

I like this observation. She goes straight for his ego

@yessd

Жыл бұрын

Dual nature for sure, flesh vs spirit, white vs black. Etc....

@KarlOsuchowski

Жыл бұрын

*hard won ability. Well said, great comment.

@raman1508

Жыл бұрын

Amazing analysis... I totally agree with this explaination

@leafwhite6376

Жыл бұрын

@@KarlOsuchowski Thank you. The first one (no pun intended) I was willing to overlook, but the second annoyed me

The whole detail about the meat being aged for exactly 152 days and no more is just to show that they have everything down to an exact science. As Tyler puts it "it's art on the edge of the abyss".

I don’t think so. The film had recipe cards for the meals, and for the cheeseburger, it said for the ingredients “just a well made burger”. When Elsa was talking about the meat at the beginning of the film, she mentioned something about it being good that they’re good at what they do (so that wouldn’t happen). I don’t think the recipe card would have called it “just a well made burger” if it was made in a way to poison the eater.

The 153 days aged thing is a smartass joke. There's no difference in one day assuming the meat is kept in the same location. She does not die at the end. The meat was not aged. You can look at the ground beef and see that it is hardly aged. Not even close to 150+ days.

@joshgrumiaux6820

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't get why everyone takes that literally. Elsa was obviously fucking with the guy who asked a stupid question. Everything the guests did and said was disrespecting the chefs, so she gave him back a smartass reply. No further significance.

Thing is, the heat from cooking the patty will kill the majority of the bacteria, I would find it highly unlikely it could kill her.

The boat didn’t shut fown she turned it off to enjoy her burger

To me, she got out alive. Simply with the symbol of chef's clap. That always meant "Next course". When something already happened during the courses, the clap indicates when something stopped, and the next thing comes. Her life.

Yeah, I think it's the same with what everyone said below. I don't think the boat wasn't tampered or anything of the sort, maybe it was just her trying to see what the hell Slowik's final meal was. Plus the burger being poisoned would... basically ruin the entire symbolism of the meal.

It’d be a neat callback, sure, but I think she lives. Sure, he says everyone has to die so the menu works, but he also says she wasn’t meant to be there and it was fucking his whole plan up, so his statements kinda contradict each other. Plus he’d have to be omnipotent to know she’d be there and that they’d have a moment where she reignited his love of cooking by specifically ordering a cheeseburger just to plan that far ahead in advance. I think it really was as simple as him being benevolent to the one person who reconnected him to food and letting her go free.

1. She was showings them the "smokehouse", there are smoked/dried sausages in it, not a fresh meat. 2. One guy was asking what happens "if you serve them on 153 day" so overcook it. Nothing wrong with a meat in this movie.

@Ira__L

Жыл бұрын

the idea that bacteria would hold out for 152 days like they have a calendar of some sorts and attack the meat precisely on day 153 was a bit insane and it all looked like a joke.

With the little wave the wife gave telling her it’s okay to leave and the fact that he did say he’s decided for her and asked her to retrieve the barrel I believe he intended to let her go but his sou chef didn’t want her to be free

@monkieri2

Жыл бұрын

Yeah wait what was the whole barrel bit really about?

@jsmith434w

Жыл бұрын

@@monkieri2 it was a McGuffin to separate the protagonist from the antagonist so that she could learn how to defeat him. as the sous chef said - there was never a barrel in the first place for the sous chef to forget. she is a wrench in his gears, nothing more. his motivation was to find out if she was a giver or a taker. barrel - McGuffin

@GuardianOwl

11 ай бұрын

@@monkieri2 Well, depending on how much 4D chess you think he is playing it could mean a variety of things. Left atop the barrel is a knife so he may just be giving her a tool to really fight for her life if she so chooses to do so. Perhaps he wanted her to wander off and look for the means to call for help so that he could bring in the fake Coast Guardman to briefly give the guests hope that they would live, in order to immediately yank it away, delicious despair. Maybe it was just a test, if she truly ran off it would give him an excuse to put her in the bad category of taker.

The chef had no reason to kill her at that point, why would he want to? He already declared she didnt belong there. Further, she survived because she was the only one who "got it". Who appreciated and made him remember his passion and why.

He was barely there when reminiscing or describing his conceptualised courses, don’t know if anyone else noticed. She had his full attention when she demanded food until she left, then he goes back into that state of… Daydreaming? What a brilliant performance

I think the beef meat's expiration date is more of a foreshadowing or a warning that the team is prepared to die that very night, and that it's planned that no-one is expected to live afterwards past that night. They said the night OF, so Margot should still be in the safe-zone. Maybe I'm an optimist for thinking it though, but I'm not sure this movie's gunning for ambiguity at the end, given the whole smores explosion

I appreciate the theory; let's also consider how many times directors flail endings -- they simply run out of original ideas when a film's all-too-important's conclusion comes. Allowing Margot to have her own thoughts (much like the mysterious message Chef whispered to her suicidal date earlier) and then take a big bite works as a practical outro visual, a "Damn! This man CAN make a great cheeseburger!" moment despite all the traumatic deaths she's witnessed. Also the deviously deadpan tour guide took pleasure in one-upping all the guests with the knowledge she possessed, always in a brutally direct fashion. And to boost your theory maybe when she tried to kill "Margot" near the silver door, she actually succeeded eventually with the same lethal bacteria she described?! I'm on the fence here: Chef admitted he was flawed, a monster, that he makes mistakes. Margot is a great example of life throwing chaotic curve balls no matter how meticulously you prepared. Chef even said she's ruining the menu, but at that point didn't quite see a way out for her (and ofc, our director absolutely can't lose the film's protagonist yet either!!). Only when she switched literal gears to fulfill Chef's core malfunction and order the cheeseburger in the skillful sequence she did, could she then "hotwire" Chef's broken wiring and pave her exit. After all, why would the director now punish her at the end, after building so much empathy about her character? Both staff and guests all belong to their own respective "cults" and worship within those circles -- except for lonewolf survivor Margot who absolutely doesn't "belong here." p.s. Unironically best lines of the movie: "Where did you go to school?" "Brown." "Student loans?" "No." "Sorry, you're dying."

@LittleBFFtvcat

Жыл бұрын

if she is the lone wolf WHO CLAPPED AT THE ENDING to make her stop eating

@omegaheartless

Жыл бұрын

@@LittleBFFtvcat She didn't, though, the clap is more or less the way the movie transitions between the main plot and with the final clap, means the reached its conclusion, the clap didn't really happen in the ending, it's to wake the audience back up and out of the trauma they experienced, like how both Slovik and Margot snapped everyone to attention.

She doesn’t die. The director even says so

The director said that, while he welcomes audiences to interpret the ending however they want, Margot didn't die. In fact, the script actually had several ideas for the ending, including restaurant maître d' Elsa coming back on the boat. Mylod described the closing shot of Margot biting into the burger as ultimately: "a victory bite, if you like. It’s a fuck you, I beat you!"

so, anyone can explain what the function of the Cheff's Mother to appear there?? she just goes there, drunk, and to die? or only for the 2nd menu's backstory?

@meritorioustechnate9455

Жыл бұрын

I think Slowik blames her for his abusive stepfather. She may have enabled the guy and gaslight her son.

@monkey39128

5 ай бұрын

@@meritorioustechnate9455 Gaslight. 😂

Nah, no "hidden twist", the filmmaker said so himself in recent interviews. Final Girl is fine, and with the echo of the clap her food is served she finally has something real to eat and thinks "FU, I've beat you". Enoy your meal. It's an intentional deconstruction (yes, as in fine dining) of horror movie twist endings where the bad comes back, but in this case it doesn't. The poisonous meat is just as suspense building device early on, so you know something sinister might going on. Chef would never poison guests, and he didn't. That would be out of character to do so for Chef, especially as the menu is finished. Chef wouldn't ruin his menu.

@skelletorjo3227

Жыл бұрын

What is that technique that writers use? Something's gun. There's no point in mentioning it if you aren't going to use it.

@jcaashby3

Жыл бұрын

@@skelletorjo3227 Mention what...the meat in the smokehouse and going past 150 days or it can kill you? The burger was made with fresh ground beef.

@skelletorjo3227

Жыл бұрын

@@jcaashby3 that's what i mean, it was never used. Think of ricin in breaking bad. If you ever watched it.

tbh my FIRST thought was that it was the poison meat even when he cooked it but in hindsight i think the only ingredient he secretly added to the food was love - the rest of the food prepared that night was made with hate

Him poisoning the burger is very contradicting to his plans of the *menu* Never once in the entire film that someone was killed because of the food prepared, it was either through getting stabbed or shooting themselves, what makes you think the chef would suddenly change the *menu* by using the food he personally prepared himself? This theory is a fun one but I think it's just too much of a stretch.

What’s so hard to understand about this? First off he cooked fresh meat. Second, if she made him get his love for cooking back, he wouldn’t attempt to serve her poisoned meat cause then he didn’t do his job properly which destroys the entire point of the movie.

“Where did you to college” B-Browns? “did you have students loans?” No “Then I’m sorry your dying then”. Bro I’m died when I heard that 😭😭

@aditisk99

Жыл бұрын

Didn't she say Browns?

@ybagain3562

Жыл бұрын

@@aditisk99 I think it was browns or mounts I can’t remember 😭

@insidejah9293

Жыл бұрын

She said, "Brown"... Remember, watching a movie with closed captioning is helpful especially if it's the second or third time you've watched the movie.

They show her taking a second bite on a boat to point the fact that he was indeed a genius cook. Its obvious that it was the best cheeseburger she ever had in her life.

He wouldn't poison the burger. First the meat wasn't near spoiling. Second Julien is a perfectionist. He wouldn't give a subpar product. Even to the customers he hates he wouldn't give subpar food too. Third, Arron earned her way off the island by giving Julien his only source of joy, love and passion he's gotten in years. Fourth, Arron wouldn't have been stranded as the explosion would have been noticed by the mainland and people would have been sent out to investigate. Especially when so many high profile people were involved. Fifth, it was a damn fine Cheese Burger. Wouldn't be that way if it was poisoned.

I think she wasn't poisoned as it would be like a disrespect to his art/food.

@raisondetre9767

Жыл бұрын

agree. grand chef poisoning his customer? hell no.

@SrsBuisness

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, chef was totally honest about what he was cooking and never lied to any of his customers once. He's specifically told her he would cook her a Cheeseburger like her parents would make. Doubt her parents would poison her.

It is a bit weird that they would put the cow meat scene there if they didn’t at least want to hint at the burger killing her.

@steel072

Жыл бұрын

Right because, did he even serve it in any of his courses? Otherwise the cow meat scene was for nothing.

@8thday

Жыл бұрын

I think she said that just to be sarcastic because it was a stupid question. People are focusing on the wrong scene. She was told the menus always have a theme and it’s only at the end that you figure out what the theme was. Her tilt and raised eyes is just her going “Oh, fuck… I just got it”

@monkieri2

Жыл бұрын

@@8thday what was the theme?

@monkieri2

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure as a restaurant they serve many things, not every food every night

@mariposa9506

Ай бұрын

He never planned any dish with ground beef so why would he have bad beef in the fridge?

Nope. They say they AGE the meat for that amount of time. Once cooked, it means that the meat had already gone through the aging and was used at the right time.

I think that as a chef he would never poison his food because it was the biggest disgrace a chef can do. Especially on a burger he’s proud of. That last bite was symbol of victory and satisfaction

In all of the pictures there in Chef Slowick's little special room he is unsmiling - all except one. The Burger Boy of the Month. Erin took Slowick back to when he enjoyed cooking, gave him a last moment of pleasure in cooking and that was why she got to live in my opinion. I loved that they skewed all aspects of the haute cuisine world - the chef's, the often silly food, the customers especially - the foodies and the rich who need something to spend money on and can't remember what they ate. I have worked in a couple of restaurants and could appreciate Chef's feelings on several points. Elsa telling those financiers, "No, you can't have bread" was so satisfying! As the manager of the dining room she got a lot of the best things to do to those people. Did Chef not tell her about the barrell? I can believe it. But I don't think Chef was going to replace Elsa with Erin. Maybe that was just how Elsa was bent - always in fear of replacement. All in all an enjoyable film and on a theme that is not often dealt with well .

A few problems with your theory, cheese burgers aren't made with freaking smoked meat! seeing how god damn obsessive the chef there's absolutely no way he messed up a simple burger... also the 152 days smoke house fact is BS and it's most definitely isn't a surefire way to kill someone. She lived for the simple fact that she was never supposed to be there and it's not like it messed up his plan to let her live since she was never part of it, also they all where going to kill themselves anyway so I don't think they cared if she later told the police or anything.

@captainmarvelwilson508

Жыл бұрын

Calling the police would be kind of pointless at this point.

He explicitly stated he was making a cheap traditional cheeseburger and the boat's engines didnt die. She killed the engines to finish the burger. Btw, it had duel engines. The only way to kill them simultaneously is via ignition switch. Even rigging the fuel supply wouldnt kill them at the same time.

Using cured meat for a burger patty sounds like avant-guard bullshit. She didn’t want pretentious, she wanted simple. Chef gave her exactly what she ordered. She lived.

I'm pretty sure what she showed them was a cold smoking house and the meat he used in the burger looked fresh and not oxygenated/slightly dried at all from 5 months of aging and exposure to air which even if you grind the softer middle of the thicker meat would give a darker red not bright pink hue. It's a neat theory from a cool missable detail though.

If people really believe he at the end wanted to killed her still, watch the movie again. Also the director confirmed she lived

Margot gets the one up here as she asks for the burger to be cooked "medium". Working class cooks know that when you buy beef on sale near the expiration date, it needs to be cooked medium to kill the bacteria. Many chefs and foodies will sneer at cooking the beef medium or well done. But chef seems happy to prepare the cheese burger at medium temperature even though it would probably have killed the bacteria. This all ties into the working class themes of "The Menu". Margot is saved by asking to be served a working class cheese burger cooked medium with American cheese (something no foodie would ask for). Both she and her cheese burger are not on the menu.

The problem with this theory is that they're professionals...they would not serve poison as food

While this is another possibility, I think it's up to the audience how they want to perceive it. I'd like to believe that Margot/Erin did end up surviving, but who knows?

@sammypanda

Жыл бұрын

$$$

@loucipher7782

Жыл бұрын

its a different meat she lived

The director confirmed she lives.

People who actually think that the burger was poisoned missed the plot of the film entirely. Jesus.

I think this theory is quite far fetched. I mean for starters, the aged dairy cow was used for the items they produced in the smoker and Slowik was clearly using minced meat for the burger. Also, I am 99.9% that rant about the deadly bacteria was just a way for her to get back at the finance guy for asking a stupid question. Yes, you can mess up and grow bad bacteria to a harmful level, especially with dry aging techniques, but there is nothing about the aging technique that would make the beef perfect day 152 and deadly the day 153. I think its safe the assume that Slowik meant all guests to die in the fire and the burger was totally unplanned. So why would they keep minced meat with deadly amounts of bacteria in the restaurant just in case they had to kill someone with a burger? And lastly; I dont think its very easy to even contaminate beef so its lethal, especially when cooked and without tasting terribly. So even if he wanted to kill her with the food, it had nothing to do with the comment about the bacteria. Sure; Slowik could ofc put deadly poison in the food but then this theory would be 100% random speculation

I thought of that right away when she was eating that burger! Throughout the whole movie, I kept thinking someone was going to get poisoned.

I also thought that 'might' have been the outcome, but she was the only person to challenge his cooking skills and love of food. I think he respected that. For everyone one else, exclusivity and acclaim mattered far more than the food. To kill Margot would be to pander to the guests he loathed, and show his career was a fraud.

Yes true. But they also mentioned that they are trained professionals and they dont serve poison. As a chef, that would tarnish their reputation to poison food since that is their pride and ego.

I would strongly doubt a chef would poison the food. He was crazy, but I think he has his professional pride still.

Lots of great theories on this film. The only thing I don’t see ppl talk about enough is the last thing the chef says says to both customers and subordinates is “I love you ALL”. Every cook and customer in frame says “we love you chef” as he drops the coal. This ties into nobody else trying to escape when he opens the door for Margot/Erin. The wealthy wife even says “thank you” to chef as he is finishing explaining his “cleansed and reborn through fire” speech. On first watch I thought it was just the girl from Brown who said it but upon rewatch every customer in frame can be seen joining in the chorus.

@Shawn-jo4hj

Жыл бұрын

I just watched it this week, twice. And yes, I'm curious about this bit as well. Why did they all say it? Is it them being resigned to their fate? Also, I still dont get why the Brown Uni girl had to die too

@mariposa9506

Ай бұрын

​@@Shawn-jo4hjfor the crime of having parents well off enough to pay for her education apparently.

Thats a very nice set back and mindblowing theory, tho i doubt that's the case, the meat used in her burger was just ground beef that doesn't pass throug fermentation on the smoke room and due to the way the chef sets his phylosophy around "givers or takers" thats why he conclueded that she deserved to live in the ending, after giving to him the last taste of joyful servitude of his art and being remembered why he started loving cooking in the first place, maybe is a little dark to say this but i thought it was a beautiful ending and the metaphor behind the menu rly did close itself perfectly.

The theory makes no sense. The chef didn't know she would be there or that she would ask for a cheeseburger, and that kitchen would never keep spoiled meat.

This makes absolutely no sense. First, the burger was obviously RAW ground beef, not smoked meat. Second, the meat was on hand in the kitchen, meaning that even if it came from the smokehouse, which it didn't, it would definitely have been properly aged before arriving in the kitchen. Third, the burger was fully cooked which would've killed any of the pathogens that Elsa was talking about if somehow the raw ground beef was from the smokehouse, which it clearly wasn't. This "theory" is so fucking dumb. Honestly, I think an actually cool reveal would've been that Chef had ground up some part of Tyler to make the burger.

It's a neat idea, but doesn't comport with the growth of Margot or the small redemption of Julian. The point of the smokehouse scene was to show three things: 1) Elsa's contempt for and exasperation with the customers, as further played out with the money bros in later scenes (with Elsa being a stand-in for the solidarity of how the whole staff feels, vis a vis, the next scene where she shows how they all live and work in harmony as a single unit); 2) When customers are so pretentious in their culinary demands of perfection, they are very much placing their lives in the hands of the staff, perhaps unwisely; and 3) Though Julian and his staff have a plan and can be exacting in their plotting and attention to detail, their plan isn't perfect AND they may have even left room for backing out of it or making exceptions along the way. The key to that last point is that Elsa tells one of the money bros not to touch the meat, as it wasn't mature yet. Since the meat matures for exactly 152 days, and we know that Julian has been planning this night for a long time, it raises the question as to why Julian and the staff would bother to delicately cultivate a product that would never be used. Either they left room for flexibility, or it just never occurred to them. Either way, it presents a hope that Margot might escape her fate. This movie is truly over of the more brilliant to come out in recent memory. Very layered.

Love the callback here but I think he has resigned to the fact that perfection is not possible, allowing her to break his original menu plan

@jayy3739

Жыл бұрын

She wasn't on his original plan. . Maybe that's why he let her go?

@poovanna4284

Жыл бұрын

@@jayy3739 they never revealed who did she replace

@BONNYRIGG

Жыл бұрын

she lives to tell the tale!

@RaynaAsmr

Жыл бұрын

@@poovanna4284 Tyler’s girlfriend

@jayy3739

Жыл бұрын

@@poovanna4284 she replaced Tyler's girlfriend he was really upset that she was there instead

It was fresh ground beef, she was just hungry and it was never his intention to poison his guests so why would he have deadly beef in the kitchen ?

Nah, she didn't eat the smoked meat. The movie shows him pressing ground fresh minced beef into a burger. No fancy bells and whistles, fresh beef, American cheese.

I will admit that this crossed my mind for a moment but in the end, nah I don't subscribe to it. It goes against the themes of the movie to kill her after all of that and against both of their characters. Plus, we see her continue to eat it with no ill effects and with bad meat, none of us would take another bite of that burger no matter how well seasoned or cooked it is.

Chesseburgers are not made from aged meat. Happy ending.

@Jamfogerty

Жыл бұрын

Yes they are, in fancy restaurants is fairly common, besides that could be the only meat that the restaurant have available

@ervinhorvath9119

Жыл бұрын

​@@JamfogertyThe meat he uses for the burger is definitely fresh grounded beef

She wouldn’t die. Most steak houses dry age the meat 40 days. She’ll be fine. The hostess was just fucking with them.

Chef wouldn’t poison the food he makes, or else you don’t understand why he made this menu in the first place

Highly unlikely that Anya died. She specifically ordered a plain American Cheese Burger that only cost $9

@caronstout354

Жыл бұрын

Then leaves a $10 on the table-no tip!-and leaves like a boss...

@ScreamCheez

Жыл бұрын

@@caronstout354 Gratuity was included for everyone else. I just assumed it was for her burger too :)

She was meant to live. Thats what the whole cheeseburger scene meant. Margot never is the target in the first place, she wasnt on the menu. Throughout the movie we did see how the chef contemplates whether to let margot go or kill her. But the cheeseburger scene show that the chef saw margot as a costumer that genuinely wanted to satiated her hunger rather than eat pretentious food, taking him back to when he genuinely love cooking. Showing deep down, a soulless loveless chef who doesnt enjoy cooking anymore still have some part of him that trully love cooking simple food for hungry costumer. Albeit its only an act by margot to save her skin. Killing margot would make the message and that whole scene pointless.

Nah, I think you guys were overthinking it. Margot is just so hungry eating those supposed to be modernist food. And she survived, as that's the whole point of the movie. Eat real food. American cheeseburger from McD. It is a satire produced by Will Ferrel.

Nah. Thats purely just her being okay with all the bullshit that just happened. She's 100% fine.

Interesting theory...But, such an ending redacts the connection that is formed between Margo and The Chef over the course of the movie; and, their mutual respect that develops for one another, and how she reminds him of the joy of cooking again, like he had when he was a simple cook at a burger joint. Hence her choice of the cheeseburger. Not to mention Margo's victory of surviving . She, a woman that "respectable" society frowns upon. The very same society that makes up the other guests at dinner. No...She earned her right to be the final girl. She survives.

In the kitchen, Chef tells Margot she’s ruining his menu and asks why she’s there. He tells her he can tell she’s not one of them; she seems to have experience working retail. He asks if she is with “us” or “them.” She asks, “If I answer you, will I get to live?” And the chef says, “No, we’re all going to die tonight. Do you want to die with those who give? Or those who take?” He gives her a kitchen timer and says she has 15 minutes to decide. In the end she gave him a priceless gift, and he gifted her in return with her freedom AND
 He also gave her a gift bag (granola, a finger & the menu) I feel that was ultimately to tell her story with proof. Invaluable if you think about how many wealthy people were in that restaurant- imagine what would be paid to know what went down. She rode away wealthy.

He also did say that there would be “no substitutions” to the menu…and if every guest was part of the original menu…maybe she lives….

I’d actually prefer your theory was true. Cause that would be such tasteful (pun intended) foreshadowing. Like you said, the scene about the fermenting cow meat was way too emphasized to not have a relevance. Although I’m sure Chef had a soft spot for her cause she made him experience the happy feeling of cooking before he died. However, I think he was already far too ruined as a chef to just let her go, cause he was already obsessed with the concept of “The Menu”. EVERYONE needed to die, including Margot/Erin, otherwise it would ruin the menu.

@ItzNeverLupus

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but chef also mentioned/acknowledged that there is no such thing as perfection. And you could say that Erin being there is really ruining the perfection. She makes it not perfect

To be honest the reality that the burger is so good and she will never have one like this ever again is worse than death considering how good his food is.

He started off as a simple burger cook. He made gourmet food and tortured the rich because he doesn’t like the rich. Morgot wasn’t apart of the menu because she’s not rich. She wasn’t egotistical like the rest and wanted a simple “poor man’s food” And that’s what the master chef wanted to provide his whole life, not gourmet. Flipping burgers was the happiest time of his life. Margot was set free because she didn’t care for what rich people cared about

I thought the poisoning was a sarcastic reply to a stupid question. Why would the bacteria turn into poison overnight?

She had to have lived look how shook he was. HE cooked the burger. He just didn't hand it off to some one else to do it. HE made it he gave it to her he took the 10 and she left coat in hand. He wouldn't of even let her out of the room. The passion he had just cooking that one burger was more emotion then he showed through out the whole movie.

@ScreamCheez

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Even explaining that he COULD make it was more emotional than anything else before it.

@monkieri2

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. I think the possibility of poisoning is a fun tease since a surprise end is part of the grain of horror movies and they have to give us something. But it doesn't feel like the Chef's image to do that unstraightforward. He shows before that point that he's open to adaptation and willing to change his plan. If that's what he intended be wouldn't have even let her leave the room.

That's a clever theory, but I don't think it happened. Slowik makes the point that she "isn't apart of the menu" and has a hard time deciding how she will die because he now only sees the world as those who share his vision and those who corrupted it. Margo however neither shares his vision on food nor corrupted the vision. From the beginning she makes it known to all that her idea of food is not the same as everyone else there, she does not care for the extravagant plating or deep messages. Margo enjoys the simplicity. The ending is where she reminds Chef that there is more than "guests and staff", and he appreciates her simple request, sincerity, and that she gave him a final experience of happiness. Slowik letting her go acknowledges that she is neither guest nor staff and is in fact not a part of the menu. Since she is not on the menu, he has to let her go.

@joahfidler8553

Жыл бұрын

The burger was her date

Cool theory, but you see a close up of fresh ground beef on the flattop.

it was made with fresh ground beef. Also, what she describes is total fiction, so she is more likely fucking with them for asking a stupid question.

I think people are focusing on the wrong scene. I interpreted the Elsa aged meat scene as her being sarcastic because it was a dumb question from someone she despises. To me, the related scene is when Tyler says the menu always has a theme and it's only at the end that you figure it out. The tilt of the head and the face she makes after wiping herself with the menu is "Oh dang! I just figured out the theme..." and I believe that's what the discussion should be.

I just completed watching this movie...literally

@heavyspoilersclips8820

Жыл бұрын

thanks for checking out the video

She turned off the boat, found a good spot to enjoy her burger and watch the island burn!

In an American sense she is traumatized by everything that went on, but was still like “damn this is still a good burger” not a victory lap more of just a sigh of relief, mixed with conceding to what is plainly a good meal

I believe the burger at the end symbolized that the chef was actually just that good that she got converted to one of the "eaters". This justifies what the chef was doing for the entire movie. He didn't go too far. He mastered the art to the point his food is actually to die for. She acknowledges it with the last bite, after looking at the flames.

I don't think she'd die. I think she lived

You didn't pay attention if you think she died from the burger. I hate this theory so much.

She asked for a regular greasy burger and it is not made with smoked meat… if it was made of smoked meat then she wouldn’t have enjoyed it rather bashed it for being different. I mean the man himself actually clowned her for asking for a cheap burger which her parents could not barely afford.. soo definitely it’s not made of premium smoked beef.

As for the movie, it was my favorite satire of the year for sure and my other favorite horror movie along with run sweetheart run. The menu is a better movie but both are very entertaining.

I thought the same thing. Her first bite of the burger on the boat seemed normal. Then when she was chewing, her expression was like “oh, yeah, that’s right, I remember what she said about the meat” and then her last bite was like “oh well. Screw it. Too late now. Might as well enjoy the taste of it”.

@captainmarvelwilson508

11 ай бұрын

No. She survived. I would never think of it like how this video puts it.

@foley15136

11 ай бұрын

@@captainmarvelwilson508 How do you know for sure?

@captainmarvelwilson508

11 ай бұрын

@@foley15136 Mark Mylod confirms it, but she was allowed to live because she she didn’t act pretentious like the rest.

@foley15136

11 ай бұрын

@@captainmarvelwilson508 Yeah, well, thanks a lot. I’m hungry for a cheeseburger now.

@mariposa9506

Ай бұрын

No that face was her enjoying the burger.

Nah, I'm pretty sure she survived. The ground meat used to make the burger is quite fresh-looking when Slowik is cooking with it, and even so, that line about aged meat being dangerous if eaten prematurely is completely wrong.

Not a bad theory at all...but actually she is the only person to live that night because she was the only person there that did not fit into the category the others fell into,..that being the fact that she had no self-serving agenda whereas all of the other patrons did. She lives in the end, that was my take anyhow.