the shimmer is when gasoline was mix with rain on the road.

@jean-philippebouchard9608

5 жыл бұрын

😂

@crubs83

5 жыл бұрын

What you see there is indeed refraction. So yes, it's the same concept.

@ProducerJS

4 жыл бұрын

I literally said the same thing yo my family as we were watching the movie! 😂

@karlojosephmuring8739

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 This comment

@speedbird737

4 жыл бұрын

or the shimmer is what soap and water looks like in bubbles

My only question is how the hell the battery on the camera lasted that long?

@xponen

6 жыл бұрын

it lasted more than a year, WOW! *plotholes... move along, nothing to see here*

@cathydiaz2480

6 жыл бұрын

lol, that is a good one

@elisabethratna10

6 жыл бұрын

Maybe it has something to do with the camera's DNA. Wait...

@JJ-my9lf

6 жыл бұрын

U could debate it was a plot hole. Or u could debate that all the energy , including the electrical energy of the battery is all contained within the shimmer as its a prism and could potentially pull energy to charge itself from the mutated air around it. Idk im just guessing. Maybe thats the mystery to the film. But seriously. Alien crash. Mutated shimmer. Flower people. Mirroring alien and the CAMERAS what u question?

@DS-Pakaemon

6 жыл бұрын

_HootHoot_ As usual, full up the plot holes by woodoo black magic. It's getting pretentious

Friend: You like liked this movie? Me: i don't know Friend: did you understand this movie? Me: i don't know

@j88south

5 жыл бұрын

Nautybilal nice one xD

@jamujava8962

4 жыл бұрын

Ho so funny😂

@GandhiTheJanitor

4 жыл бұрын

*Takes a sip of water*

@therishavjha

4 жыл бұрын

then what do you know?

@GandhiTheJanitor

4 жыл бұрын

@@therishavjha I don't know

This movie feels just like you’re waking up from a dream that you can’t describe and you try to recall everything you still know

@germanic4316

Жыл бұрын

Exactly how I'm feeling - after watching it just now. Wow.. Definitely not a pleasant dream though. More like one of those dreams, which takes a day to shake off. A dream which digs so deep into the subconscious, it's impossible to describe with words.

@joshuagould2683

Жыл бұрын

I finished reading the book and immediately watched the movie. The book is written in a way that feels dreamy as well. I found myself unable to even describe it. The book is also quite a bit different than the movie.

@kicktakerzofficial

Жыл бұрын

Most of the times , a conceptual movie is based on brief on a dream which is later arranged in a structure. I had 3 dreams like this : 1. Humans travelling to different galaxies and i saw how humans spend their lives on the spaceship. 2. A time travel movie which lead to various errors in the multiverse and shattered the grand time paradox. 3.( I can't remember properly) it was a dream based on human mutating into superheroes or zombies. I had to fight against them. Its kinda funny but also relevant to discuss that these type of various abstract ideas do sometimes come out of a dream.

*ENDING EXPLAINED* doesn't explain the ending

@user-gw4zg1qm8m

4 жыл бұрын

This was the shittiest ending explained I've ever seen

@noamorwell

4 жыл бұрын

It kinda does: apart from our self-destructive impulses, the ending (and the film) is a metaphor for personal evolution and change. The dead Lena and Kane remaining in the lighthouse at the end represent both of them having to change and shed parts of themselves for the sake of their relationship (which is not necessarily a good thing, but often inevitable)- to the point that they become unrecognizable versions of their earlier selves

@JokermanUno

4 жыл бұрын

Y’all were looking to get spoonfed with no utensils.

@caketinfairy

3 жыл бұрын

@@JokermanUno it's the heading of the video. Are you into bait and switch or something? It's reasonable that we're frustrated when someone says they'll do something and don't

@yusufansari1756

3 жыл бұрын

"I don't know"

Why does no one mention than the tattoo on Portman's arm is actually from the right arm of Rodriguez's character? Portman's character does not have a tat in the beginning.

@Doryplory

5 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too, so strange🤔

@GutAValoiS

5 жыл бұрын

And it also was on the soldier who died in the pool, the one they cut to see the bowels moving inside of him, I guess the tattoo is a hint they use to tell us if they were either affected by the shimmering or maybe even already cloned.

@billpealer

5 жыл бұрын

@@GutAValoiS not sure what it means. ink has no genetic component. These clones grew cloths too. That also makes no sense. i think it was creative BS-ery, ignoring science in trade for added convolution.

@sendnoobsplease

5 жыл бұрын

I would have thought that ink and fabric was made from organic material and was supposed to atleast have genetic quantities

@JasonTylerRicci

5 жыл бұрын

I picked up on this and couldn't quite figure out its meaning.

The deer is with its doppleganer

@bmbk4725

5 жыл бұрын

Nah it's just its cousin Riley from Alabama he's always looked that messed up.

@LeadersCome

4 жыл бұрын

Ohhhhh thanks

@John-qq3wp

4 жыл бұрын

I dunno why no one has pointed this out but the deer is a total rip of pokemon, so much so that I believe Nintendo can sue them

@gurpreetbhamra9752

4 жыл бұрын

@@John-qq3wp I also felt The Last Of Us vibes.

@Jehvon

4 жыл бұрын

John Smith LMFAO

The water in the glass wasn't mutating, cause water doesn't have DNA. That's just what happens to water on glass

@elizachristila4027

5 жыл бұрын

Right? I didn't see anything going on with the water in the glass

@protaen3481

5 жыл бұрын

I just noticed that Kane's doppelgänger took a sip of water the same way that Lena did earlier in Lena's kitchen, like he didn't even want it

@billh2294

5 жыл бұрын

But it's interesting that the shimmer doesn't seem to be just about DNA. It mimics elements themselves. With the flash grenade, it mimics the chemistry inherit with an explosive. It seems much more like a virus but for all materials, not just cells. Its only fault is that it has no preconceived knowledge of what it is mimicking or coping and, therefore, does not know the difference between the flash grenade and a person, so mixes them.

@alessandrobressani7323

4 жыл бұрын

Water refracts light. The shimmer refracts DNA

@katbz2212

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I thought,when you drink water it does that it takes the place of all the space it sees.

Right after they kill the mutated aligator they immediately get on boats to cross the river.. I mean there can't be any more of them right..? It was probably the safest option.. X-D

@royenjordy4772

5 жыл бұрын

thought that too haha, big ass creatures , and than " hy why don't we make a boatride?"

@Val-uy2me

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, my thought exactly!

@Djeppetto

5 жыл бұрын

bruuuuhhhhhh.....

@sanpatricio9490

5 жыл бұрын

My first thought, too. I also wondered if they would get attacked by other mutated creatures or mutated clones of previous soldiers or or people that may have lurked in the shimmer. But I guess that would be a whole other movie..

@R2DeezNutzz

5 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing, like, you just barely killed a giant mutated alligator and you decide to take a paddle boat into their home?

The metaphorical ending to the movie is the literal ending. We are not the same people we were yesterday. We adapt, mutate, and absorb our surroundings. We are the shimmer, we are the alien and we are all one person, but billions of individuals.

@sfsf285

5 жыл бұрын

wtf?

@Felahliir

5 жыл бұрын

You are just like this movie, pretentious and trying to see a deeper ocean of meaning in a rain drop. Stop trying to give and amswear life questions that haven’t even been formulated. Stop being false and making a void into something with apparent worth and meaning.

@xavierjones6048

5 жыл бұрын

@@Felahliir lol it makes sense though...

@inlinesixer

5 жыл бұрын

Like the Ship of Theseus who are we but the real time reflection of our environment, which is in constant change

@Felahliir

5 жыл бұрын

Xavier Jones If you put anyrhing it’ll make sense since there are do many plot holes you can fill them with whatever. You could say a rotten sandwich got so bad it became sentient.

the comments are more informative than the video 😅

@Mohitkumar-mv8mj

5 жыл бұрын

LOL...., So true😂😂

@lief3414

5 жыл бұрын

That's because the video doesn't create fan-fiction but tries to interpret this nonsense as metaphor/deeper meaning.

@devinedirisinghe6075

4 жыл бұрын

Tell me about it seriously 😆😆

@shizunnanase543

4 жыл бұрын

@jelica I am so confused of this movie rn I wanna kill ma self

@lanagaga7504

3 жыл бұрын

lmfaoooooo

In the flash grenade video at the lighthouse, the Kane that killed himself all the sudden had a Southern twang in his dialect. That was the oddest thing about everything lol.

@aliciasapienza

5 жыл бұрын

That was another soilder. Not Kane.

@kennayy4394

5 жыл бұрын

@@aliciasapienza uh no it was Kane.

@BigPapaSean66

5 жыл бұрын

Yea that was odd

@Ms_StoryDragon

5 жыл бұрын

TheVerucAssault it was explained that Cain had gotten the accent from one of the other soldiers, as a result of the mixing and mashing from the shimmer...he didn’t know who he was anymore or what part of him was really him and that’s why he killed himself-he lost his mind :/

@CottonCandySharks

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I didn't think it was Kane for a while because it confused it me so much. What I've gathered is that the memories of the other soldiers started to mesh with him, and he knew he was Kane but didn't feel like it. So he started talking differently and acting differently, and then decided to kill himself since if he couldn't be Kane he didn't know what to do. But yeah, that really confused me.

I don’t know if I was the only one, but the Bear absolutely terrified me. I don’t scare easily, but wow, this movie became a horror film at that point.

@freedomjesse

6 жыл бұрын

Me toooooooo.

@Black8Apple

6 жыл бұрын

I have never been actually scared during any horror film, (and i have seen pretty much all of them😂) but the bear was just so disturbing and terrifying😨

@egorcano3782

6 жыл бұрын

I thought that bear was a boar-cow-ape monster, but not definitely a bear ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@tiffanylakes1275

5 жыл бұрын

The bear screaming was horrifying

@THEDOORIZCLOSED

5 жыл бұрын

BRUH. Once that bear came about (a little bit before that too) i was just WHAT KIND OF MOVIE IS THIS?!?!!? Absolutely TERRIFYING !!!

They were clones from the moment they “awoke and couldn’t remember how long they had been there” but their camp site seemed to have been used for a long while. Basically the shimmer keeps cloning them over and over and each clone, like a photo copy, is less and less like the original adding influences from the environment inside the shimmer. So the Lena we meet inside the shimmer is say Lena clone 1.... then we see the creation of Lena clone 2, each clone is more susceptible to changing/transforming. The original humans probably died pretty early after entering the shimmer.

@toribarrett04

6 жыл бұрын

Al Price I really like this theory and it makes a lot of sense. 👍

@danijelb.3384

6 жыл бұрын

That's the best theory I've read so far.

@sajid4462

5 жыл бұрын

Hands down best theory

@amandaabdelqader520

5 жыл бұрын

This literally makes the most sense to me

@Commander_Shepard.

5 жыл бұрын

Holy shit ma nigga. :o

What baffles me the most is that they had a perfect watch tower, yet decide to place the look-out on ground level. Imagine instead standing just outside the room where the others were sleeping and looking down with the night vision Googles. They would have all the time in the world to arm up and shoot the bear if it decided to escalate the watch Tower’s narrow passages.

@Hashisamba9

2 жыл бұрын

Movie logic :)

@dalurinzinia829

Жыл бұрын

exactly my thoughts too when i saw Vistress guarding on the ground,...it made me go "whuuuuuuut??"

@theepicmusicmania4712

Жыл бұрын

I even thought if wireless signals dont work . Why not take a wired transmitter with you instead . Something better than nothing

@Pete_Piper

Жыл бұрын

They’re women. Hence the no explanations, constant strife, and putting down of the packs.

@denisl2760

Жыл бұрын

Also having a bright ass light ruining their nightvision and giving away their position. A lookout is not supposed to be seen.

Couldnt they go just like 1 meter into the shimmer and take some tests of the ground and plants and then go back?

@Arafat.Abou-Chaker

5 жыл бұрын

They did and woke up in the Camp several days after

@ngastakvakis4425

5 жыл бұрын

This wasn't the first expedition smartypants...

@Musaaaa653

5 жыл бұрын

@@ngastakvakis4425 yes every other person never came out

@LissC555

4 жыл бұрын

XtremeStevie they could’ve tied a rope round one persons waist and yanked them back out after 1 min to see what happened to them lol

@yaykruser

4 жыл бұрын

Lis C They could also use a stick to get some plantparts out of it.. They could also nuke the whole thing ...

Dr. Ventress doesn't have any eyes at first when she's in the heart of the shimmer, in the clone incubator thing, right? I didn't imagine that? So is it a Ventress clone that hasn't quite completed itself?

@warrencr86

6 жыл бұрын

vollsticks yes

@Commander_Shepard.

5 жыл бұрын

warrencr86 What?

@keshi6791

5 жыл бұрын

True. I too think thats the case.

@najibrizvi

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@cinematix2988

5 жыл бұрын

good catch i wasnt quite sure about it. It makes perfectly sense tho and they could have made it obvious my showing the original ventress´ body somewhere

one question everyone keeps forgetting. how did kanes clone end up in lenas house??

@nandoalee

5 жыл бұрын

QuattroSolo exactly! That’s what I wanna know! Lol

@TeacherToolkitDemo

5 жыл бұрын

Kanes clone was faulty he was fucked. Chinese clone.

@lukemcraig

5 жыл бұрын

maybe he teleported like Lena's clone teleported out of the hole room. "I was outside the room with the bed."

@atpcliff

5 жыл бұрын

This was not explained in the film...

@LNRose007

5 жыл бұрын

I thought that since the clone absorbed parts of Kane, that the clone would have Kane's thoughts and memories...

Why didn't they just skydived to the light house?

@Soooooooooooonicable

4 жыл бұрын

lmao. Good point.

@brandontea3815

4 жыл бұрын

The light refract.

@JasonChowTV

4 жыл бұрын

that would be a 5min movie lol

@Dionysus667

4 жыл бұрын

Or just fly there on the backs of giant eagles.

@vitoguevara6919

4 жыл бұрын

Same reason Frodo didn't ride the eagles into Mordor. It's all about the journey m8

My own interpretation is the alien life wanted to have both a male mutant and a female one on earth in order to reproduce and insist their civilisation, that’s why when Lina’s clone got out of the light house the shimmer started the self distruction because their mission is accomplished

@mikeh1846

4 жыл бұрын

Damn that's actually a great theory

@geraltrivian9801

4 жыл бұрын

That might be true

@rowens208

4 жыл бұрын

Very true. They did make it a point to address that they were intentionally going to send an all types of intellect team of women instead of brawn military dudes early in the movie. The shimmer needed both I suppose

@happyplacelandscapes6289

4 жыл бұрын

You actually just blew my mind. So far the best interpretation I've seen yet...

@leionne

4 жыл бұрын

I ACTUALLY LIKE THIS THEORY! BEST ONE YET!

Natalie Portmans true doppelganger is Keira Knightley.

@p_eabean

6 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment about the movie lmao

@THEDOORIZCLOSED

5 жыл бұрын

not....really .i can tell them apart now

@mooncreme

5 жыл бұрын

when i was younger i thought tyra banks and beyonce were the same person

@maidenrohina

5 жыл бұрын

So much so that Keira plays Natalies decoy in Star Wars Episode 1

@Shah1m

5 жыл бұрын

also Winona Ryder

My theory on why every burns at the end is that the core of the shimmer was always changing it's form, which is why it was mimicking Lena and assumed her appearance. When the WP grenade ignites, it takes the form of the chemical reaction, which it doesn't understand so it just kept burning without knowing it was killing itself.

@rzc0624

6 жыл бұрын

I hadn't considered that about the grenade. I thought it was strange and silly that the psychologist lady exploded like that, but I guess it happened because the mutation was mimicking the explosion from Kanes grenade.

@eljair93

6 жыл бұрын

Dope input.

@seda12

6 жыл бұрын

the real kane killed himself, the duplicate survived and exited the shimmer.

@stevegirard-voiceaudiopodcasts

6 жыл бұрын

The shimmer disappeared because the initial breach of the planet was successfully completed... the lifeform had mutated into the world’s most evolved species, which is all it could do to ensure its survival. The film was mostly meh, with a few decent shocks... but “deeply intellectual”? ...nah.

@dennish2238

6 жыл бұрын

I prefer to think that Lena's duplicate held the grenade when it assumed Lena's form because it inherited her self-destructive tendencies, and thus, destroyed itself. Another, perhaps co-existing theory, is that when the duplicate assumed Lena's form, it inherited all her self-hatred and internal turmoil, and decided it did not want to become human, and accepted death. I prefer that one, actually

Movie rating : I DON'T KNOW

One of them turned into a plant....

@peixeirada

9 күн бұрын

why does no one talk about this….

My question is why didn't these expert 'scientists' wear (or advise that others wear) hazmat suits, when they entered the shimmer? Other scientists are seen wearing hazmat suits just to examine them outside of the shimmer, but NOT when they enter this unknown alien bubble, where people are mysteriously disappearing? WTF? Also, I understand that they couldn't just send in drones because of static interference, but couldn't they have just passed through the first layer of the shimmer, and then sent drones up to investigate what lay ahead? The lack of proper preparing is the most frustrating part for me. Movie logic, I suppose.

@eureka0521

6 жыл бұрын

Very strange I was confused they didn't even bother using gloves either. Definitely movie logic, but I shared your frustration. Seemed like they needed a much better plan to get information out of the shimmer. Plan A shouldn't be get to the lighthouse just to see what's going on.

@linmonPIE

5 жыл бұрын

Because the stars wouldn't look as good in hazmat suits *eye roll*

@Swords941

5 жыл бұрын

Or just drive into the shimmer. Why do we have to hike there. Maybe i missed the part where they said engines don't work in there, but flashlights do?

@amberg3893

5 жыл бұрын

I'd like to know why they had to find boats to travel with when they knew they were headed into a swamp? They could have at least packed a rubber raft or something.

@timmyy24

5 жыл бұрын

And if the lighthouse was against the ocean, why didn't the Navy just station a damn air craft carrier and have massive teams infilatrate over the water? Or send small rafts equipped with mortars and RPGs to bomb the shut out of the light house.

Then I thought Arrival was confusing.

@owl-arm7545

5 жыл бұрын

Arrival had the one of the worst endings to a film I've seen in a long time... I got it, it was just shite!

@Njbear7453

5 жыл бұрын

You can’t really compare the 2

@deephazarika2259

5 жыл бұрын

arrival was BS. annihilation is way better. yes you can compare them because they are both alien related movies

@Njbear7453

5 жыл бұрын

deep hazarika other than being “alien- related” that’s about all the comparisons they have 😂😂

@Brandanus

5 жыл бұрын

arrival ha d a clear plot with sentient extra terrestrials, here it's not explained and imho not even relevant

I felt like the movie was f-ing my brain

@Marie-rq2gp

5 жыл бұрын

Yup I Even feel dumb

@Felahliir

5 жыл бұрын

Averiana _heart_Of_Flames You don’t, you feel like a fool because the movie tricks you into thinking it’s a smart and deep movie, but it’s shallowest that virgin Mary’s puss

@Noskills11

5 жыл бұрын

Wanna shoot some kids up?

@LuisSierra42

5 жыл бұрын

I was WTFing every second

@lazyken6468

5 жыл бұрын

Dormamu, I've come to bargain

The entire time I was watching the movie I kept thinking: Everything in the shimmer is cancer.

@ricardods6843

28 күн бұрын

This is what makes the most sense to me, as we constantly saw fast rates of mitosis throughout the film. I don't understand how refraction of "everything" and mitosis can go hand in hand though. It felt like there were two definitions of the film the whole time I was watching it. Is the shimmer cancer/mitosis or refraction of everything, including DNA? Or is it both? Not sure, and I believe this with a mix of plotholes in the movie create such an open ended question about the meaning of the shimmer. It feels like the movie is trying to prove 1 = 2.

The human plant in the swimming pool was eerie as hell.

@scum3112

6 жыл бұрын

True. But the screaming bear was even more...

@issaciams

6 жыл бұрын

It was just a giant butt hole like the entire movie.

@3314285

6 жыл бұрын

Ketunloikka looked like a booty hole. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@petersonmasoryde3163

5 жыл бұрын

Ketunloikka hell ya

@Pete3Heat

5 жыл бұрын

Are you talking about that whole village of the people who turned into plants?

I thought the shimmer is a metaphor for a negative state of mind. The team that got sent in had their own battles to fight and were entering a negative state of emotion (i.e. entering the shimmer). They chose their own way of giving up to these negative emotions: for example Anya gave in to fear (consumed by the bear), Josie gave up on herself (turning into a plant herself) and the doctor succumbing to her illness (the cancerous tumour consuming her) etc. Kane was searching for self-destruction, but couldn't let his wife go, so he decided to end his life and send a different version of himself to her. Lena (Natalie Portman) couldn't accept the person that she had become after cheating on her husband, so instead of succumbing to it, she battled herself and destroyed the shimmer, i.e. walked out of the state of mind that she is in. Bearing in mind that she had started mutating while in the shimmer, she had emerged from this experience a changed person, signifying that all those who win against psychological traumas emerge as a different person, though with traces of such experiences present in them, as did Lena and Kane. Not very sure, but what I thought about after watching the movie.

@yevgeniyaleshchenko849

6 жыл бұрын

WOW!!!!!!!!!!! That is ...deep and beautiful! Really puts everything in defferent perspective...

@joyandjonah

6 жыл бұрын

That was my take as well. It is the fear that destroys us or we seek transformation.

@NalinKhurb

6 жыл бұрын

Very much possible, well explained

@FuDeadlyD

6 жыл бұрын

Good theory! It explains why they put in that scene where the anthropologist and Lena are in the boat and everyone's personal battles (aka they've nothing to lose) are explained to Lena... I had been kinda wondering about the point of that scene...

@StevenPennyphotography

6 жыл бұрын

I think this is the best answer in this whole thread

Another detail missed - in a flashback, lena is reading "the immortal life of henrietta lacks" which is a book about the HeLa cells originally extracted from henrietta lacks cancerous cervix. the HeLa cells are still around today, the first human cells to ever live completely on its own outside of a human. There was a connection to this in the beginning when lena and kane are talking in bed about how god fucked up by having cells age and die and shit. just the dopest connection

@thinkingmachine354

5 жыл бұрын

narko You missed the point. You are using the word “life”/“live” differently.

@r-pupz7032

4 жыл бұрын

That's awesome, that story is both inspiring and horrifying with how they treated Henrietta Lacks. I think this film isn't supposed to be taken literslly. See Folding Idea's video. He presents the idea that it is all a metaphor for loss, death and grief, and how we all react to it. I love that meaning

@thinkingmachine354

4 жыл бұрын

Rosie Puplett I love metaphors but I don’t really like that idea.

@amyhelsabeck6232

4 жыл бұрын

Adam and Eve messed up

@ramoana

3 жыл бұрын

yes and there was something about if the cells don't age, then you won't die and would be immortal .... perhaps cloned Kane and Lena are now immortal.

The Ouroboros tattoo is important and was not covered here. Also, the Shimmer appearing on earth via a meteorite might not be an "attack", but a random occurrence. Maybe that is how life on earth evolved in the first place?

@russbelperez3837

4 жыл бұрын

damn! i had a similar thought

@brandontea3815

4 жыл бұрын

Russbel Perez me too!

@vladmirmakarov7763

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah you are correct son!! Btw I created the shimmer and my name is god...

@ylnx250

4 жыл бұрын

That is not an ouroboros tattoo. In the book they are they 8th expedition to enter the shimmer. They have it tattooed on them as a way for others to keep track of them if they enter the shimmer and find them or if they get out of the shimmer. Also, something not addressed in the movie but addressed in the book is that the strange boundary is the result of the fact that time inside the shimmer is dramatically sped up and what they are actually seeing is the boundary between normal time and this sped up time. This is why it appears to the teams that everything has evolved so fast and why all the towns and buildings are in such advanced states of decay.

@minivlogs4046

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe. There are many conjecture theories regarding this, one known as "the panspermia theory" which states that life on earth from the outer universe.

I don't think it was her doppelganger at the end. The actual Lena was being changed throughout the movie, showing shimmering cells in her own blood.

@StandAsYouAre

6 жыл бұрын

Now to see if Kane and Lena live forever.

@earlyjicama4302

5 жыл бұрын

Yep I agree... now they will breed alien babies and distroy the world 😂

@TheNewSchoolGamer

5 жыл бұрын

Kinda reminded me of The Last of Us

@Boog_masskway

5 жыл бұрын

But if the doppelgänger won, what was the point of allowing itself to burn etc? I mean it could have still gone back to the base and pretended to be real Lena while the rest of this shimmer continued to grow. Makes no sense.

@earlyjicama4302

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheNewSchoolGamer same

Florida. Ofcourse it has to be Florida.

@armyyyyyyyyyyyy

5 жыл бұрын

Lawllllllll

@starbrand3726

5 жыл бұрын

I live in Florida, and you have no idea how freaky it is here.

@TheChaosfreak97

5 жыл бұрын

@@starbrand3726 We see the News about Florida mans Adventures

@JohnSmith-yr4vi

5 жыл бұрын

Amazing geography and nice people?

@richardaaron4454

5 жыл бұрын

Star Brand Florida aka ground zero for the zombie apocalypse

Friend: so what happened in the lighthouse? Me: yes

Who feels like a whole different person after watching the film? 😳🤯

@subhenduparida4163

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know

@witchyfairy_

3 жыл бұрын

Subhendu Parida 😳

@kirannow

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know *sips water*

@ericthomas9307

2 жыл бұрын

I am LOL, I'm thinking I need to start taking care of my body so nothing bad happens to it! Be and become as healthy as much as I can LOL

Why didn't they just use a speedboat and enter from the sea... seeing as the lighthouse was on the beach...

@43Mvesper

6 жыл бұрын

That's a good point!

@Quetzacoatl68

6 жыл бұрын

They did, but no one returned anyway...

@cated4783

6 жыл бұрын

There is only one way to enter what is called Area X in the book. There is a "border" surrounding the whole area and only one way to get in.

@Quetzacoatl68

6 жыл бұрын

In the movie, they say they have tried by land, sea and air (and even with drones) but nothing worked...

@tylerpyle2135

6 жыл бұрын

BABA JANG there where many dumb plot holes like this.

Did anyone else notice the 'bruise' scene in the boat just after the gator attack? Lena complains about a bruise on her left arm - the arm which we'd just seen in one of the interrogation scenes as having an infinity snake tattoo. We see her inspect the bruise and there seems to be no sign of the tattoo. She says something like 'must have got it when the gator attacked' the camera cuts to a close-up of Shepherd (sat behind her) saying 'Yeah...' but her expression suggests she knows something...

@carljaeger4473

5 жыл бұрын

Yea

@Eazy712

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah..

@AntonioPerez-xt4xt

5 жыл бұрын

That's true, and what was that eye shining in last scene, this movie just blew my mind

@AudioFusioNet

5 жыл бұрын

Does the tattoo signify the person is a clone?

@leounknown7316

5 жыл бұрын

One of the other girls had that same tattoo the one that went crazy and tied them up had that tattoo

Starts the video with "I'm gonna explaine all the questions", explains nothing and asks at the end what the spectators think about it instead. Well done sir..

@jamesh9174

Жыл бұрын

How is there any debate if the clone died or Lena died ? The clone when caught on fire turned back into the green being obviously real Lena could not do that.... so clearly the clone died.... and the real Lena escaped.... super clear!!!

Anyone else notice that the infinity tattoo ends up on the soldier in the pool, Anya, and then Lena?

@ViolenceCity

5 жыл бұрын

YES! I think the ones with the tattoos are clones.

@ylnx250

4 жыл бұрын

If you read the book the tattoo is put their because they are the 8th expedition to enter the shimmer. This allows future expeditions to identify them should they find their remains as well as outsiders to identify them if they ever exit the shimmer.

@RhaevanHeims

3 жыл бұрын

@@ylnx250 But Kane had it too, right? (In the movie)

Lena can’t be the clone because she has memories while the Kane clone did not but Lena is already infected anyway so it didn’t matter if she was th clone or not

@laylasita

6 жыл бұрын

exactly. this video is shit

@mwidenst

6 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with your theory Drew.

@mugnuz

6 жыл бұрын

evolving.... genes could deliver informations like memories

@tylerjames8502

6 жыл бұрын

In the book the "biologist" that comes back is not the original. It's the doppleganger that returns

@BillyGoatBoy

6 жыл бұрын

Dashing Dreww (

The bear was brilliantly creepy and unique 👍👍

@crazitomali

6 жыл бұрын

when i realized what the scream was.... omg.

@ShelbyHighsmith

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's def the scariest monster in many movies. Makes Alien look simple.

@n3rdy11

6 жыл бұрын

The bear was the only good thing about this movie.

@ninjaslash52_98

6 жыл бұрын

Justin de la Garza loved how it just ripped the girls jaw off

@ashpomare8107

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed

According to the author of the source material, the shimmer is a metaphors for “conserving the earth”. Essentially, the others original vision was something along the lines of that even if humans try to destroy earth, earth will annihilate humans in the end to save itself. And that’s directly from the mouth of the author Jeff Vandermeer.

@m.lrisner3970

5 жыл бұрын

And life will continue, not the same, but it will continue. Hmm.

@xzrachzx

2 жыл бұрын

So basically the same idea for nearly every film about humans destroying the environment

@notafeminist7642

2 жыл бұрын

I always assume it's some environmental message like "mother earth cleansing herself." Typical Hollywood.

I am a DIEHARD horror fan. NOTHING Truly frightens me in a horror film, (I am more interested in the evocation of one of the most pure and primordial emotions , fear, and its effect on human psyche) , BUT.... this bear scene I had to back up and watch three times I was so fascinated and disturbed. So very original and deeply unsettling. Honestly it invokes a sort of primal panic and terror, as I imagine a deer would feel being stalked by something. Predators mimicking distress calls to lure prey is a true occurrence in nature, so to hear a predatory version of this adapted for human prey was so utterly compelling and sickly deeply entrancing/terrifying to watch. Gave me a great horrifying twisting punch in the gut...Good call screen writers....I'm impressed.

@PintoPintoBean

5 жыл бұрын

I agree

@a-aron14

5 жыл бұрын

love hearing this stuff from a deep horror fan thanks for the insight !

@shermannorton636

5 жыл бұрын

It reminded me of the wendigo episode in Supernatural. The mimic of human cries is terrifying...

@SD-ej5gr

5 жыл бұрын

They did this in the hunger games books! I think producers must have thought it was too gruesome to put in the movies. But a lot of the creepy creatures in the games were supposed to be like the dead contestants recycled into mutant beasts to mess with the minds of the living contestants, the concept just messes me up so much..

@El1ipsismm2

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree..I dont scares much but this was on a whole other level. It was genius and one of the most original best scenes that I have seen in a long time!

This answered no damn questions

@stardust330

6 жыл бұрын

Bigzero such a confusing movie

@egorcano3782

6 жыл бұрын

Biologist soldier fights with some alien clones to save the world. That's what I got from this one

@theleagueofshadows100

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha agreed I’m like I don’t really understand more now than I did before this...in fact now I have even more damn alien mutating questions...F!

@FazalFariz

5 жыл бұрын

"no goddamn* questions"

@andrewfrey5562

5 жыл бұрын

This is just as bad as the movie.

I’m grown and that “bear” scene has scarred me for life lol

When I drink from a glass, that same thing happens with my water or drink after I put my glass down . So I guess I'm a clone from the shimmer. Come on people! Be smarter than that!

So we aren't gonna talk about the tattoo? The fact Anya had one, Kane did, and so did Lena after the lighthouse. so many unanswered questions

@mariach7637

4 жыл бұрын

jgelanyi yea right! I thought the same thing..

@ylnx250

4 жыл бұрын

If you read the books, the tattoo was an 8 because they were the 8th expedition to enter. It was a way for the team members to be identified.

@jgelanyi

4 жыл бұрын

@@ylnx250 wouldnt the women going in be the 9th expedition then? Or if they're the 8th, Kane and their crew would have been the 7th.

@ylnx250

4 жыл бұрын

@@jgelanyi well the way the book explains it they actually sent in dozens and dozens of expeditions amounting to 1000s of people, the number is kept vague but it is huge, however, the Southern reach's Head, which you learn in book2 was the psychologist, didn't want expeditions to know how many people they had lost to Area X, and so they just stopped at 8. Thats why Kane had an 8 too. As was shown in the movie they almost exclusively hired expeditions from outside the facility, so none of the teams had any clue how many people had gone in. There are several people in the Southern Reach that had entered Area X and returned without a doppleganger. The only one included in the film that had done that was actually the psychologist who had successfully been into and out of Area X twice before.

@jgelanyi

4 жыл бұрын

@@ylnx250 Thats really cool! Thank you for your insight/knowledge, I haven't read the books and maybe should LOL is the movie far off from the books would you say?

Definitely not a weapon or alien invasion in the traditional sense. The "alien" was simply doing what it was born/progranmed to do. It happened to land here and was growing and reproducing. The goal of any living organism is to thrive. It wasn't malicious, it simply was.

@michael1326

6 жыл бұрын

That’s pretty much the definition of a virus.

@timk7508

6 жыл бұрын

And we don't like virus. Especially not that kind of virus...evil or not. Bear scene says it all.

@roberthpilesund384

6 жыл бұрын

Actually, the scene when they first discuss the flowers say it all, it looks like different organisms, but it is all from the same root. The Bear, shimmer and anything that went into the shimmer became part of it. The blood tests proved that later in the movie. Space Cancer - the movie, i liked it...

@DavidArriola

6 жыл бұрын

Mike Mc that's pretty much what we humans do. So I guess we are a virus too

@timothydonatelli5571

6 жыл бұрын

Dabid Arriola yep

I think the real thing here is that it doesn't matter if the person is a doppelganger or not, they are basically the same thing. The people that went into the shimmer became the shimmer, and the shimmer became the people. Doesn't matter if it's a clone or not, it's literally the same. Same composition, etc. It's nice to see our own life like that. All our cells pretty much die and get replaced over a few years (5 or something), so we are essencially copies of our past selves, continuing on... and that doesn't make us less real or less "original". We are what we are... constantly mutating bunch of cells, with our little self-destructions. I'm not a biologist, but the macro idea of evolution and natural selection is that destruction is what makes us better. We are programmed to die so we can give room to a newer generation with different aspects and probably better chances of surviving the environment, with specific mutations. That also fits in our own lives. We are slowly destroyed and rebuilt so we can adapt to circumstances.

@thinkingmachine354

5 жыл бұрын

Papa Dragon I’m not sure clone is the right word. They mutate as it goes on. They could be different beings but I wouldn’t describe them as clones. They were refracted and mixed with everything else.

@jayknight139

4 жыл бұрын

@European Colonist that's makes sense except for the fact that they were all wearing the same clothes as their respective clones. But I like the idea

@RebornLegacy

4 жыл бұрын

We're not programmed to die. There's a just a flaw in our DNA that makes cell replication faultier over time.

@user-rc2gy5ik5n

4 жыл бұрын

@European Colonist clone is not the right word,even right now your cells are not the same with the ones you had before one year ,are you a clone?

@Soooooooooooonicable

4 жыл бұрын

@@RebornLegacy We NEED to die, otherwise we'd run out of resources on earth to sustain our massive population.

Dormamu, I've come to bargain

@magickology

4 жыл бұрын

Best ragequit ever

@ODDee816

4 жыл бұрын

😅😅😅😅😅😅

@mohammedubed7000

3 жыл бұрын

U will get ur Bargain when u fix this DAMN Door

@mariyammaldavid9111

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohammedubed7000 spidey

I switched to "Inception" because it was easier to understand than this!

I think the point was that once inside everythings dna starts to mutate/combine with each other, hence the other persons tattoo that grew on 3 peoples arm; like the inverse of shooting light into a prism (or a kaleidoscope), everythings dna began to reflect on everything else. So the end it was the real Lena, except her body was already mutated with what ever was inside, so what came out of the shimmer was neither lena or the alien, but both (and probably some of the other crew).

@stephenmoro5514

5 жыл бұрын

This is correct

@unorthodoxname5012

5 жыл бұрын

Getting a tattoo does not alter your DNA, it is a physical modification which is not transfered via DNA... There is something about the tattoo tho because Lena did not have it before entering the shimmer! I guess I'm gonna have to rewatch to get some awnsers! (Maybe read the book too?)

@cocainaforall4636

5 жыл бұрын

Zack Silver God wtf

@BaldingClamydia

5 жыл бұрын

@@unorthodoxname5012 there's a book?!?! This is why I read comments xD

@uncanny8279

5 жыл бұрын

Out of all the very good theories on Lena I agree with this one the most so far.

Yeah I think when she drank the water, it was just the water settling that had splashed on the side of the glass when she took a drink. The scene where she drank the water was meant to make the audience believe she was not a copy because when her copy husband took a drink of water out of the glass at the beginning blood ran down the sides of the glass. The audience itself wasn't visually hinted until the hint that she may not be herself any longer when her eyes glowed at the end.

@MDMetalManiac

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@isaiahvalencia3956

5 жыл бұрын

cause the shimmer was destroyed

@LosingControl31

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly, I don’t think water can mutate since it’s made up of only molecules not cells. But this movie was the trippiest thing I’ve seen in awhile and a breathe of fresh air. Not all alien invasions consists of bugs ships and explosions sometimes its biological. Not a bad movie caused a lot of discussion.

@isaiahvalencia3956

5 жыл бұрын

@@LosingControl31 weird cause the husband didnt though

@Alexander.Berglund

5 жыл бұрын

​@@LosingControl31 You're absolutely right about the water! A mutation is a change in a nucleotide sequence. Water itself is obviously just H20 and can therefore not be mutated. It was weird of him to say (and keep) that in the video. I agree with the sentiment about there being some interesting concepts here, but I'm not sure it was a good movie. The visuals were wonderful though.

I think it's more like a thrilling psychological movie wrapped in sci-fi plot

I think the most profound idea in this movie is that the shimmer doesn`t has to be a weapon or tool. It could be just a phenomenon, mechanically acting without intention. As everything else in biology, if you think about it for a moment. Another intriguing idea that was tackled in the movie but not developed further is that the shimmer could be a a prism of information, not matter or energy, reorganizing things under slightly different physical rules than of what we know.

@iori1303

3 ай бұрын

In the books "the shimmer" is actually a tool/weapon. And it was send with a purpose. People in the movie/books and people who read/saw it try to see a deeper meaning behind it... but there is non, its just a tool/weapon. The shimmer is a landmine set in a war that ended long time ago, and the earth was unfortunate enough to step on it.

Why does nobody bring up the tattoo?

@crm4434

6 жыл бұрын

Same reason everyone forgetts that the movie explicitly states that The Shimmer has no intent of any kind and it may not be intelligent at all.

@arturofernandez4058

6 жыл бұрын

It's not that big a deal, it is an example of how the shimmer refracts everything. One of the soldiers of Kane's expedition had it, and the shimmer refleted it back to everyone

@nigelcarren

6 жыл бұрын

Yes I wondered this too, but having a tattoo does change someones DNA ... we are not born with tattoos? This when I realised this was not actual science... but 'refraction' and I relaxed and enjoyed the ride. The fact I am still thinking about this movie days later means it certainly qualifies as truly intelligent Sci-Fi. BRAVO

@KuraMad2000

6 жыл бұрын

That's what confused me the most. Where the hell did that tattoo come from? The bruise from the gator turned into a tattoo?

@donovandeswardt

6 жыл бұрын

KuraMad2000 perhaps the person who was previously eaten by the croc had that tattoo which then became part of the croc's dna

Here's how the shimmer was destroyed at the end. Lena's clone absorbed not only her physicality but also her psychology. Thus, the clone became intelligent and self-destructive--like Lena herself. That's why when the clone's arms were on fire, it did not chase her out of the tower...instead it walked to the wall of the tower, touching it with intent, then walking into the hole, causing the destruction of tower and the shimmer. It was the real Lena who came back out of the shimmer. Her eyes glowed at the end because she was still infected.

@kjpg2005

6 жыл бұрын

i am persuadable. there is clearly intent evident in that burning of the lighthouse that has been overlooked in all of the explanations I have heard

@randomfools808

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It also didn't need the shimmer anymore because it's DNA became fused with Lena and Kane which was the whole reason the clone of Kane showed up in the first place. It can evolve another way now. But I think it also fused with her self destructive DNA whether intentionally or not when they fully merged.

@Arsolon618

6 жыл бұрын

Also, Lena and Kane are a breeding pair. Both a male and female have been infected. Cue Lena's early speech about 1 cell becomes 2, 2 becomes 4...

@dill1919

6 жыл бұрын

The ‘Clone’ also touched the head of the burned remains of Kane. I assume that was a nod to say there was some of her in the clone, and that was the final goodbye.

@crazycutz8072

6 жыл бұрын

brilliant answer - it can create in a different way now.

Forget the movie. This comment section is damn funny!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The film was absolutely stunning. It left me thinking about so much.

The Lighthouse scene is horrifying. The idea that this metallic form isn’t really on the offence (except for hitting her back once) yet is inescapable because of Lena’s own nature. Freaky. This whole movie is half nightmare, half beautiful dream. I love it

The shot of her reading a book about Henrietta Lacks is a pretty clear association to cancer and immortal cells. Perhaps her tattoo in the shape of the infinity symbol also alludes to this. Constant mutation but immortal. Not dying but changing constantly.

@amberhamilton-allen6759

5 жыл бұрын

YES I noticed that as well pretty deep when we consider Mrs. Lacks story

@Kalbo..

5 жыл бұрын

Deadpool Origins

That alien at the lighthouse thing was crazy it gave me chills!

Here's how book and movie are similar: Characters, place called area x... The end

@ParistonHxH

Жыл бұрын

The movie isn't trying to be the book. That would be stupid.

I walked out of this movie with a lack of trust. For everything

@andrewhackney6286

6 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Oyarzabal it's almost as if the details look strange in the corner of your eye. =P

@balrogthane

5 жыл бұрын

Especially bears!

I found it weird how the crocodile dragged the girl from so high up

@mikey-lz8ye

6 жыл бұрын

they where in the house then

@ScottMshao69

6 жыл бұрын

then they got in lil canoes not worrying about many other crocodiles? ugh

@crissycrossed9692

5 жыл бұрын

Scott M I'm pretty sure that crocodile ate all the other crocodiles....

@zoltan9952

5 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@Snuqls

5 жыл бұрын

same

The shiimmer is an alien that goes to planet to planet to survive by changing it

For me it seemed like the shimmer/alien was just a metaphor for nature. It always mutates und changes. It has no specific goal, it just wants to learn the best way to stay alive. It didn‘t attack Lena, Lena herself attacked it even though it didn‘t do anything bad. ( a lil reference to humans destroying the world) For me personaly I felt bad for the alien/form of live because it just wanted to learn, live and be.

@mrj4082

3 жыл бұрын

The alien survived. The "real" Lena that destroyed the "alien" was the alien I think. I haven't watches the movie yet

It seems that it is still the "original" Lena, but its made clear every real human that entered the shimmer was affected by the shimmer in one way or another. Original Lena made it out, but she has been changed, and the changes may be continuing. Nobody leaves the shimmer intact.

he was a double, she was the real one, just infected, that's why their eyes simmered slightly differently... the only thing I don't get is that tattoo... getting a tattoo doesn't change your dna...

@DystrophicEvolution

6 жыл бұрын

Good point, it's ink and not a birthmark or something.

@asuka813

5 жыл бұрын

It refracted everything, not just DNA

In all honesty I want to see a film (short or full length) that delves more into the universe of Annihilation. The concept of it and the lore that could be made for the film could deepen our understanding of what the alien race is and whether or not Lena is still herself or has merged with the shimmer to create a different kind of world destroyer.

@ceejay8775

4 жыл бұрын

It wouldn’t crossover well with the mainstream audience , but I agree ... this movie reminded me a little bit of cronenberg’s style .

I may be blind, but what does everybody mean by "The water in the end is mutating, after Lena drinks it"? I don't get it

@Abhishek-zq7ur

4 жыл бұрын

Just another indictment of American education system

Did not like the ending the theory about the clone surving and changing the story is a good one but that doesn't explain how the shimmer got destroyed in the first place wouldn't it have still been there? And when she passed out the clone hadn't even morphed into her yet the only theory that can explain the ending was the original Lena survived like we saw but she's kept mutations from the shimmer because she was there for so long that's the only theory i feel like is the most valid

@djmaus7909

6 жыл бұрын

The Lena doppelganger made it out and was telling the story. In her version of events the original Lena destroyed the shimmer. Lena doppelganger made it out, destroyed the shimmer and the life inside because the mission was fulfilled - she was created as the ultimate mate for the Kane doppelganger.

@unclebadtouched

6 жыл бұрын

DJMAUS thats still a good theory but the one that makes the most sense to me atleast is the real lena destroyed the shimmer like we saw but because she was in the shimmer for so long she still had the side effects and mutations from it

@unclebadtouched

6 жыл бұрын

Doni Billie 👀 yo i can definitely get next to this i just don't know what their child would mean for humanity would damn near be unstoppable

@leannbeltran9833

6 жыл бұрын

I feel like either the clone changed the story to lie and perhaps the shimmer did still catch on fire, but the clone was the one who made it out and the original Lena burnt to death. Or, Lena is infected by the shimmer and is just slowly turning into someone else. Either way we will probably never know

@unclebadtouched

6 жыл бұрын

Anne Smith and that right there is what i didn't like not knowing what actually happened i don't think they should make a sequel but a miniseries to explain where the shimmer came from and to explain what actually happened to lena and also showing what her and her husband are planning to do with earth i doubt things would be peaceful once they mate and have a child

Take note Hollywood. Movie was pretty good with an all female cast. No agenda was being pushed. There were character arcs, the character themselves were flawed, a story was being told, and the movie was compelling and thought provoking.

@FrankCastle-tq9bz

6 жыл бұрын

The human characters were the weakest part of the film - the protagonist's marriage life was dragged into a place it really had no business being at all and the other characters had only minimal development before the alien force overwhelmed them.

@captainrembo

6 жыл бұрын

I said in a previous comment, but the reason for an all female team is the Southern Reach trying different variables to get different reactions from Area X. Some people decided to just jump on the Ghostbusters comparison sadly.

@FrankCastle-tq9bz

6 жыл бұрын

If that's true, then the film didn't make that clear - and furthermore, no one in charge of planning such a mission has *any* idea what kind of reaction the phenomenon in question is getting from the teams it sends in there as they disappear and have no communication with home base once inside. Really, this wasn't very well thought out...

@roloug95

6 жыл бұрын

aaaaand hollywood throws it to Netflix

@neilgooge

6 жыл бұрын

I agree that it tried to be those things, but all it actually ended up being was a film packed with clichés and poorly executed ideas. As is mentioned below, the characters felt shoe horned and unrealistic, they certainly didn't have believable or enjoyable arcs. Comparisons to Ghostbusters are well justified, at least in the movie... The book may be better, but if the film anything to go by, its clearly influenced by Colour Out Of Space... Though the book may not suffer from some of the movies gaping holes, like in a very vase level the team itself for example. I would hope the hook deals with that better. Yet another movie that tries to be clever and fails quite horribly while doing so...

2:04 there is literally a face in the shimmer "wall"

@paulskaminsky4220

4 жыл бұрын

jesus in the toast

@averythesuperhero

3 жыл бұрын

Pareidolia

The Shimmer seems like a nice nod to Lovecraft's The Colour Out of Space. In the novel, the colour itself (it's basically described as what we see inn the film, the light refraction, all of the visible colours to the human eye, etc) is the entity/alien. So it would make sense that the entirety of the Shimmer was the being itself. The epicenter of the meteor impact being the core of said being. Just my thoughts.

@balrogthane

5 жыл бұрын

YES. The moment I saw the Shimmer I wondered if the movie was inspired by The Colour out of Space (I didn't know about the book at the time). That prepped me to experience a movie about things that strike at the heart of our assumptions and that we "know" how things work. The alien twists how earth biology works, but it itself is mind-shatteringly unlike earth biology or even material. It doesn't even seem to operate by earth physics.

the scene with the bear were he smells and looks around is not so simple, the bear wants them to scream to feed on the screams. he didn't eat sheppard only mutilated her.

@Protegit

6 жыл бұрын

And Im not talking only about people who died of cancer. Im talking about all the ones, who died while suffering. Another example could be depression ending with a suicide. True annihilaiton. And these people will also be remembered as "the ones who took their lives", "the ones with mental problems" etc... Just like the bear "remembered" and resembled only the last moments of Cass.

@Protegit

6 жыл бұрын

And the bear is something that all the members of the expedition team fear. Being remembered badly after death is something that everyone fears. Another gret metaphor. Fun fact: If you replace one letter in the word bear, you get fear hahaha

@NeedMorePlebs

5 жыл бұрын

Protegit - and if you replace the "a" with an "e" you get beer. So what.

@coffeegrinds685

5 жыл бұрын

Protegit or beer

The alien was a higher tiered presence that skewed energy patterns within its range. It wasn't alive in the traditional sense and had no agenda beyond the influence of the biological beings it encountered. Its response to each of the humans it encountered directly manifested itself in the being subsequently created. The husband's love for his wife was why the clone sought her out, with no agenda. The protagonist was able to convey to her doppelganger a desire to destroy herself, which it did. Survival instincts are unique to social creatures, because this utility contributes to success. Projecting this "humanity" onto other beings who's survival wasn't predicated on this need (Such as Super AI) yields an inability to draw accurate conclusions about behavior.

@yevgeniyaleshchenko849

6 жыл бұрын

Great explanation

@StandAsYouAre

6 жыл бұрын

I have to wonder how long copy Kane was out of the Shimmer before finding Lena. Did the Shimmer create a copy of Lena and Kane’s house in the shimmer to teleport copy Kane directly to the real house. The Doppelgängers seem to be able to teleport from one room to another.

@theleagueofshadows100

5 жыл бұрын

Love it.

@suruxstrawde8322

5 жыл бұрын

Survival instincts are definitely not only in social creatures, but altruistic variants certainly are. The whole "family comes first" thing in humans is completely instinctive, nothing more than programming. Something like a solitary wood wasp can't even comprehend the idea of pack protection and family. Yet- it still has the programming to run/fly away from things that scare it, I.E- self preservation.

@a-aron14

5 жыл бұрын

very very well said

If it’s like a prism and refracts everything from radio waves to DNA why doesn’t it do the same to.. oh I don’t know LIGHT?! Does it only stay on the lower end of the wave spectrum? That and a complete lack of muzzle discipline are my gripes.

So much to think about in regards to this film. Great job presenting your interpretations of this movie. Your videos are ALWAYS entertaining and fun to watch!

@jamesh9174

Жыл бұрын

How is there any debate if the clone died or Lena died ? The clone when caught on fire turned back into the green being obviously real Lena could not do that.... so clearly the clone died.... and the real Lena escaped.... super clear!!!

Life on Earth came from a meteor. That "alien meteor" brings just another form of evolution. In the end, Lena is not a clone. She's a different person. She's like a soldier that returned from war. Not herself anymore. It's happened​ to all of us.

@barryevans791

6 жыл бұрын

We don't know what started life on Earth, panspermia or transpermia is conjecture.

@MasterKoala777

6 жыл бұрын

And how did life get onto that meteor?

@sammiechanning1489

6 жыл бұрын

Your picture though...

@angelface101ful

6 жыл бұрын

U fucked my mind lmfao

@joeannevigil179

6 жыл бұрын

Black Phillip I accuse thee of witchcraft and thou art the witch of the Black Woods, “ Clickity-Clickity-Clack” 😂😂

I thought the movie was about the nature of all bio-logical life - Always mutating and never content in a static stable environment. Similar to the French proverb, 'The fate of the glass is to break', the 'fate of all biologic life is to self-destruct'. All human characters in the film seem to fit that profile. I saw the Shimmer as a pinnacle state of a biological being that is capable of mutating life around it. But even it seemed to follow an illogical path that lead to a catastrophic change.

@RebornLegacy

4 жыл бұрын

That's so true. Self-destruction is a theme that's brought up repeatedly both on the cellular level and the psychological/behavioral level (think: Anya's alcoholism). And even the advanced, Alien life-form self-destructed too (in an explosion of flames nonetheless). It seems no matter what form a living organism takes, the only constant is death.

@amyhelsabeck6232

4 жыл бұрын

Also known as The Fall

In the books, there's no doubt (once you've read all three): It's a weapon. And that meteor-like strike isn't compatible with a pretty big theme - how it got here - in them: That's another tie in with the refraction-theme.

@iori1303

3 ай бұрын

Its more a tool rather than a weapon. It teraforms the planet slowly. Like a mower : for us its a tool, for everything that lives in the gras its a monster killing and destroying everything in his path, but thats not what it was build for. It just happens to be the outcome of us wanting a nice and clean garden to live on...

Thanks for the extra work on the review. I like the way you explore the metaphorical dimension of this film, which is clearly one of the main dimensions of it. Like Tarkovsky's Stalker, in that regard. It seems like the poetical ambitions of Annihilation do indeed owe a lot to Stalker. Haven't come across much writing about that, yet. But the two films do form a zone. An expanding zone.

@zunipus

4 жыл бұрын

The book 'Stalker' is based upon is the excellent 'Roadside Picnic' by Arkady and Boris Strugatsky. The book goes into much deeper detail regarding the 'Zones'. Another book/movie echoed in this story is 'Solaris' by Stanislav Lem. Again, the book goes far deeper into the alien encounter. Of the two film versions, again I suggest Tarkovsky's. Brilliant stuff.

Lena didn’t kill it with the grenade, it technically played its own part in its destruction - hence the overarching theme of self destruction. Lena ignited the grenade, but it doesn’t harm the alien and it returns back to its base form. Lena is able to escape the lighthouse, and the alien is looking for another form of life to duplicate. It touches Kane’s dead body, and by doing so absorbed the physical reaction of being burned to ash. Lomax (Benedict Wongs character) clarifies this when he says a team has reached the lighthouse and it is all ash.

@i_read_bad_reviews

6 жыл бұрын

Jonny Nguyen interesting

@praiseandworshipradio7708

6 жыл бұрын

But wouldn't real Kane no longer be a life form because he's dead?

@delarosafamily817

6 жыл бұрын

this is good interpretation nice it makes sense. BUT WHY IS KANE ALIVE IN THE END that is my question coz for all I know real Lena got back but he died months ago so why is Kane/alien clone alive?

@thejuicyjayjj279

6 жыл бұрын

He is alive because he is not in the shimmer.

@jamesliggins891

6 жыл бұрын

How do we know it didn't harm the alien?

why is nobody pointing out that the Lena's clone at the end is not exactly mirroring her movements. In fact when she tries to run out the clone goes after her (that ain't mirroring). Or why they never bother to finish watching those video tapes? They're are on a mission to collect data right? Or why they weren't taking notes the first few days inside the shimmer? They are soldier and experiencing memory loss, so, maybe start a journal with your actions and position? But then all of a sudden the memory loss disappear? Lots of plot holes in this thing......

@coolbastin

5 жыл бұрын

If we go with the cancer metaphor, then maybe the lack of 100% synchronous movement represents the struggle with cancer... In the initial fight against cancer, you could "beat" it before it fully duplicates or "annihilates" you.

@SaraRebora

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah you're right: in the book there are notebooks and they're essential to the plot.

@dannielsen9348

5 жыл бұрын

Making a campsite secure wasn't really a priority either. And the one on guard was away from the others with a light on, that's not a guard, that's bait

@Noriibunn

5 жыл бұрын

For film it might have been better to leave a little unexplained.... part of truly good horror is an aspect of the unknown. It's a staple of primal fear.

@DangerRavioli

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe it starts as mirroring for the clone, but then it becomes smarter/better than you and either predicts your movements or makes the better one. Or perhaps it gained a conscience by coming into contact with Lena.

what about the tattoo on Lina's left arm???it was on Ania's arm before...

When you realize that Annihilation and Frozen are the same story, both based on The Snow Queen by Hans Christian Anderson.

There's also a point where Lena is reading "the immortal life of Henrietta Lacks", a book about cancer cells that are immortal, able to divide outside the body and that are in constant mutation. These cells, called HeLa, are still used nowadays by biologists after the donor (Henrietta Lacks) died 60 years ago

@leonchouler3294

6 жыл бұрын

There is a Lena anagram in there that I'm too tired on a Sunday night to look at..

Regarding the ending, my friend thought the same of a possible switcheroo. I still think it's the real Lena. I told him I don't think the mutation just abruptly ends after being affected. Remember Kane (Isaac)? He told the doppelgänger he can see his fingertips and skin moving, then seconds later offed himself. I believe it's her and not the clone. The process had started, and will continue to change and affect her.

@SpeedyXGunz

6 жыл бұрын

Really? 3?! Thanks Imma check 'em out

@Fo0lish_mortals

6 жыл бұрын

Speedy Gunz yes

@bigulf6712

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah exactly. The thought of Lena's clone being the one at the end is just way too corny for the type of movie this is. The fact it's even being debated is sad lol. Original Lena is transformed by the experience and turning into something else. End of story! And a good film.

@edvinchandra1277

6 жыл бұрын

Speedy Gunz No its the alien..it was looking to take a form a shape as it was formless...when it found out the higher level of consciouness in the main character it took its form...

@bigulf6712

6 жыл бұрын

@edvinchandra no, with due respect that's too Hollywood a reading for the director's predisposition to a deeper read.

How does water mutate 🤦‍♂️

@m4rk549

4 жыл бұрын

@Karina Belenoff u also stupid? Its sarcasm kid Go to school.

@SylentONE

4 жыл бұрын

@divinefeminine whoosh...

Acid. The shimmer is a metaphor for LSD and everything in this movie suddenly makes sense.

I thought the movie was a metaphor for self-reflection. The characters all end up the way they view themselves. Lena feels like she owes Kane because of the affair. The reflection she fights is the guilt she feels at her own selfish actions. Ventress is consumed by her desire to face death, quite literally. Anya is destroyed by her paranoia. She questions everything she sees because of her past as an addict. Josie chooses not to fight & embrace the changes. She wipes away her scars & becomes one with nature.

What's fascinating about Annihilation is how it manages to make people go out of their way to see things that are not there, and then make up explanations for them.

@victor070

5 жыл бұрын

trump's critics lol

@Felahliir

5 жыл бұрын

That’s actually a bad thing. People at this point try to explain the plot holes. S theory can be ambiguous, but if there are pradoxes, hypervague explanations and etc itnjust shows how bad the movienis

@courf

5 жыл бұрын

That's... kind of just the definition of art? Lmfao. Like I'm not arguing whether or not the movie Annihilation is art, but, you know. Transitive property.

@sebcrakpot1234

5 жыл бұрын

@@Felahliir It is possible. Or maybe this kind of movie just don't want to you sit there and have the entire story all feed right into your mouth like a typical action movie where you are just looking and not thinking.

@Felahliir

5 жыл бұрын

Seb Crakpot Except, it shouldn’t present itself like an action movie, and there isn’t any puzzling you can do. A good example of a narrative you have to search yourself are the Soulsborne games, if you don’t look for the story you’ll just be killing bosses without any clue of ahy.

Being one of the themes is about self destruction, it’s no surprise that the team would head directly into danger.

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but at 0:54, which is a scene of the edge of the shimmer, I can see "demonic" faces. The clearest one is in the middle in the top third of the frame. There's also another one on the right side. Am I imagining this or is this another hidden meaning in the film?

@ehhmynameiskensley4124

11 ай бұрын

I never noticed anything until you said something but I definitely see it

but in all honesty.. its been a while since a movie entertained me and people actually got a discussion going for once instead of just talking about DC vs Marvel.. I thought it was a fascinating film, i give it an A.. Very well directed film as well, from the first frame i feel everything is being told with intent, but i do get why some people wont like it.

@alwaysdisputin9930

6 жыл бұрын

agree

@Vortex_one

6 жыл бұрын

mike kenneth Exactly. Its like every movie nowadays are marvel

I think the Lena that made it out was the original Lena. The reason her eyes changed to me was that she had some of the alien’s DNA shared in her. The reason Lena burned the dopple ganger was because she saw the video when Kane killed himself with the same type of grenade. In a way Lena mirrored what Kane did in the end. Just with opposite outcomes. Trippy...

@DadSkool

6 жыл бұрын

a hug is hardly a marriage back together lol

@arturofernandez4058

6 жыл бұрын

I don't think there's a difference, wether it was the original or the clone they were both assimilated by the organism.

OOOOF I really needed this video

Thankyou for actually analysing this film, I had a couple theories and this helped straighten them out. I watched a different "analysis" that did nothing but tell you what happened in the film for 20 minutes..