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@Ryukushin

Жыл бұрын

Communism doesn't take away peoples individuality, that's hilarious pro capitalist propaganda that has been normalized, its understandable why the commenter would say that lol You should check out Second Thought if you want to understand real communism or socialism

@forcewars5691

Жыл бұрын

Idk if you take requests but please do the Truman show

@xxxjordandangerouslyxxx

Жыл бұрын

Have you seen Nowhere from the mid 80s. Cause it seems to be something you would breakdown. Or at least find interesting

@xxxjordandangerouslyxxx

Жыл бұрын

The best on this I've seen. Clear,cut, and dry.

@micwell2247

Жыл бұрын

All through the movie She was remembering her future ....try it sometime and watch the argument within arise

The movie makes it very clear that we couldn't figure out why the aliens chose those locations to land, pointing out that the best correlation we found was that they were where a song was a hit in the 80s. I argue that's because we were looking for correlations in the past. For all we know, those locations are important in the future.

@allanfifield8256

Жыл бұрын

Excellent point (!) in the spirit of the movie.

@Flip4Crypt

Жыл бұрын

They'll be important in the future, because they'll be looked back on as the 12 Sites that the Heptapods made their first appearances

@lukasloh2509

Жыл бұрын

They choose those locations primarily bec their goal is to unite us humans more than anything else. And of course to understand about time and language. I bet we are not the only planet they visited in. Knowing that their arrival would probably mean their dimish, their primarily goal is to seek a united force to help them about a threat in the future. Bec prob the only way we can all defeat those forces is to be one inspite of our differences.

@ChartreusianInfusion

Жыл бұрын

Two Words: HANNAH MONTANA. XD XD XD

@Burgerand_olive

11 ай бұрын

@@Flip4Cryptwell the question is why did they choose those locations in the first place

“Abbot is death process” made me cry.

@Karlach_

2 ай бұрын

Abbot's dumbass should've just left if he knew he was going to be blown up.

This is one of the films that I wish I had seen in theaters when it first came out. I was so surprised how good it was. Arrival was not what I thought it was going to be. Now is one of my favorite film.

@rainwater739

Жыл бұрын

Same here! It's become a favorite of mine!

@nathanlovins4121

Жыл бұрын

I’m 26 now and saw the movie in theaters and it’s been one of my favorites since yet I never hear people talking about it.

@wasteyelo1

Жыл бұрын

It was astounding

@thiagoperes6468

Жыл бұрын

i didnt know Denis work or anything about the movie and it was a truly unique experience watching it on the big screen, now Denis is one of my favorite directors

@kelvinchunga

Жыл бұрын

It

Arrival is one of those movies I wish I could erase from my memory so that I could experience watching it for the first time again. That bittersweetness when you get to the end of the film and all the pieces suddenly fit together was indescribable.

@cimpysTech

Жыл бұрын

Unbelievable! These are exactly my thoughts throughout the years every time I encounter a masterpiece of intellectual genius in arts

@stevo43068

Жыл бұрын

YES!

@nathanielacton3768

Жыл бұрын

Have you tried Donnie Darko? Similar feeling first time. The film finished and I just sat there stunned, credits paused.... trying to put things together. Never had a moving ending quite like it.

@dracul3691

Жыл бұрын

It was really slow and mediocre at best

@Henrique.Souza0601

Жыл бұрын

@@dracul3691 yes, thank you! I mean... It's not "bad", but the ending being good doesn't pay off for the almost 2 hours before with pretty much NOTHING happening. Watched yesterday with my wife and I was asleep for 3 different times and she couldn't keep her hands off her phone since so much of the movie was nothing different happening lol

I always thought that Louise looked sad in the beginning because she's already mourning her daughter, she just doesn't know it yet. If time really is circular then she always could see backwards and forwards, she just wasn't consciously aware of it yet.

@YumYum820

Ай бұрын

Almost like you wake up crying from a dream

the best part of the film as a piece of art, and possibly its best easter egg, is that the film becomes an example of its own message allowing the viewer to experience the story point from Dr Bank's perspective twice. First watch through you are the version of her prior to understanding, watching through the film linearly putting everything together slowly from a point of ignorance. When you rewatch it knowing the outcome, you recognize the flashbacks as non-linear and view the story from the perspective of an understanding Banks thus allowing you to reflect and appreciate the story as a whole while reliving the scenes chronologically. Amazing piece of art.

@user-fc2tj8lf2m

19 күн бұрын

How did you not notice that it was non linear storytelling the first time lmao

I’ll never forget seeing this movie in theaters. I was visiting a lifelong friend, and we randomly decided we could go see a movie. We checked what was on and realized Arrival had its final show that night, 11pm. We ran so we could make it. There was nobody else in this theater. Needless to say this was quite the experience. We both stayed in our for like an hour discussing the plot, the message, and how we felt about it all

@ValtorVentures

4 ай бұрын

Wish i could watch it in cinema

Another reason the number 12 is a nice choice is because in music an octave is made of 12 semitones, after which the pitches repeat cyclically.

@TehMillionkill

Жыл бұрын

For western music, sure, but this isn't like an universal truth

You said you didn’t feel like Louise had so much choice in the movie, I think that “yes” scene at the end is her choosing it all. Great breakdown, subbed :)

@shadowmaster335

Жыл бұрын

yeah, i've always thought that time was deterministic, but we have free will between point a & b

What I love about this movie is how it forces the viewer to really think about what we just saw. I still remember wondering for weeks after I first saw it, because I didnt yet fully grasp the concept of non-linear time. Now, its so fascinating to me that something like time, that many people see as something that unites us and doesnt differentiate, can be viewed so drastically different. This is the entire purpose of science-fiction media, and I love it!

We knew we wouldn’t have our daughter forever,not at first but as time went by,she actually came to that realization first because she felt her body wearing out from all her medical woes. So we made sure to say what we wanted to say, do what she wanted to accomplish, not worry about stupid stuff, always said I love you, valued people, not things, etc. Laura also made sure we all knew what she wanted done after death, that is donate organs and then send her body to be studied by a research lab. Even knowing my continuing gut-wrenching pain I wouldn’t have traded a single day with her. 💕🐝💕

@afuroSAMURAI

Жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry, that's so sad. It kills me just trying to imagine what that is like- having a daughter of my own. It is truly amazing how children can change your entire perspective on life and real value. Thank you for sharing your story.

@amazinggrace5692

Жыл бұрын

@@afuroSAMURAI Enjoy every day with your sweet one, even the hard ones. Reinforce that you always love her, even when you sometimes don’t like her. Because there will be those days. Remember, people matter not things, so really don’t sweat accidents, like broken things. I have a whole lot more to say, but I’ll stop here. 💕🐝💕

@lisaspikes4291

Жыл бұрын

I can relate. I lost my daughter at 2 1/2 months old, and then my husband died in a car accident 9 months later. Although it was 40 years ago, I still think of them every day. It is painful at times, but I wouldn’t trade my time with them for anything. It may have been shorter than I wanted it to be, but I feel so lucky that I had them in my life. That was, and always will be, my favorite part of my life.

@themeowzers93

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, you are incredible people, your family.

@amazinggrace5692

Жыл бұрын

@@lisaspikes4291 I agree … although I cry every day, I am starting to have some smiles at the amazing memories. All I ever want to mark my death is “She was a good mom”. 💕🐝💕

When I lost my dog after 14 years I was so depressed and upset and broken hearted over the loss until I began focussing on all the love that she had given me over the years and all the fun we had then it got better.

I remember watching this with my sister at AMC. I spent most of the movie crying. Both because of the beauty of the story in the movie; but also I was in a very bad place mentally and I was thinking that this was the last time I would be watching a movie with her.

@Becca_Lynn

8 ай бұрын

I'm glad you're still with us. God bless

@norfolkgarden

7 ай бұрын

Very glad you are still here. ❤

@dorindas7330

4 ай бұрын

I'm also glad you made it through and are still here with us 🤗

@SARGENTDOODLE

2 ай бұрын

Did you kill self?

Not sure if you mentioned this but in the helicopter when Ian reads the forward from her book it says something like ‘language is the first weapon used in conflict’ then obviously later in the movie they say ‘use weapon’

I love this films approach to friendly aliens. While our first encounter with aliens (if there ever is one) could result in destruction, I don't think that's the only alien story to tell. Aliens could not only be friendly, they could provide science and technology we don't have. If I traveled to an alien planet, that is the kind of thing I'd want to provide for them so it's interesting to see a movie where they kind of behave that way

@juliobro1

Жыл бұрын

Oh, as some may have already done in the remote past? Plenty of ancient folklore about that around the world.

@bryh555

Жыл бұрын

@juliobro1 ?? Okay? i never said there wasn't I just said I like how this movie did it lol but go off I guess if you feel the need to be the smartest in the room

@juliobro1

Жыл бұрын

@bryceh555 no, I'm sorry, it's not like that. I hoped to spark some curiosity in the ancient legends of world cultures. I can see stuff in some of these movies that resonate or take ideas from them, or is it that you already know...? 😉

@monicarenee7949

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s kinda like Hollywood doesn’t know how to present a foreigner/alien unless they’re a threat to us and the main source of conflict. I liked that this movie showed the more likely scenario, that aliens would protect us from ourselves. A lot of real life UFO stories are about strange occurrences around nuclear sites, like aliens are trying to prevent us from taking ourselves out.

@eme.261

Жыл бұрын

@@bryh555 - "I guess if you feel the need to be the smartest in the room' Hmmm.... your response is more an indication that YOU feel as though you're the dumbest person in the room and therefore automatically take a defensive poster when there's no need for it. You're placing the responsibility for your fear of ridicule on someone else.

I didn't realize just how much this movie affected me until now. Just hearing you mention plot points caused me to tear up. Such a wonderful film.

I saw it in the theaters without knowing anything about it and was so glad for it. Its one of my favorite films, and Amy gives an incredible performance. I also read the short story and I do like the majority of the changes they made in the adaption. The one thing I think is handled better in the story (forgive me if I'm remembering it incorrectly) was the development of Hannah's character and the impact that she had on the people around her, which factored into why Louise had her even though she knew she'd die young. The idea that someone can impact so many lives in small ways in a short life is really interesting. Anyway - I really didn't see the time twist coming and it was a gut punch watching it the first time.

@Jensen-C

2 ай бұрын

I had a similar experience. I’m also seeing a lot people having a similar experience. I wonder if it was marketed like this on purpose so people didn’t know what to expect going in. The shock of the twist ending is something I’ve never experienced in my life at 21 years old now and was 14 when it came out. Sticks with me today

@AlienInvader

Ай бұрын

@@Jensen-C read the short story well before the movie was even a glimmer, i think the story has a better message and handled it better. the acceptance of the totality of life, that the choice is available, and there will be heartache, but to choose to take the bad with the good and that everything has its place.

This movie, Tenet, and Interstellar gave me a lot to think about as far as predeterminism. Very similar things to think through.

@KingRoyalOfficial

8 ай бұрын

This is the EXACT comment I was looking for! Movie for Movie 🙏🏾

I remember seeing this with my partner and we had just become parents, literally cried like a baby at the end. The message I took from the movie was that everyone you love will eventually pass on and we must live for the special moments. We all know that everything will come to an end and if you had the choice you would always choose to do it again, no matter what pain it brings.

@gingerbred2533

5 ай бұрын

Same! I sobbed for like ten solid minutes from the moment the plot twist became apparent at the very end. Getting emotional thinking about it now. Sheeesshh this was seven years ago...

@lorraineclairebull8190

3 ай бұрын

I was 8 months pregnant with my first when I saw it. It was the last film my husband and I saw before we became parents and wow, was it a beautiful film to end that chapter of our life on 🤍and look forward to starting our new chapter, however it would end

Arrival is an underrated masterpiece. Thanks for the video!!

@AqueleRod

Жыл бұрын

@♜𝐏𝐢𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 Heavy Spoilers No, you're not. It's just a scam... 😂😂😂

28:00 More profoundly, this glass separation captures the struggle between Louise and Ian to understand each other much like the humans struggle to communicate with the aliens.

@catardeleanu8611

Жыл бұрын

@heavyspoilers Thank you for this amazing review!

@heavyspoilers

Жыл бұрын

Ey thank you

loving these older movie breakdowns hope to see more throughout the year :)

@heavyspoilers

Жыл бұрын

Yeah gonna try make time for one a week if I can

@kaspinet

Жыл бұрын

I'm enjoying these too. Have you considered doing Angel Heart with Mickey Rourke?

@DJaquithFL

Жыл бұрын

"Older" .. as in just barely 6 years ago?? Okie dokie.

@DarthFloof1990

Жыл бұрын

@@DJaquithFL 6 years ago is in fact in the past therefore older 😊 hope that helps lol

@GabrielAlcala956

Жыл бұрын

@@DJaquithFLit’s a hard pass for me bro. I just saw FAST X and it was waaaay better! So much AMAZING ACTION! And amazing acting!

It's 1.46 am here and I just had a cold shower and come back and got this crisp ass breakdown ready for me (arrival is one of my favourite movies of all time) by Paul. Thankyou Paul for doing these great breakdowns on new and older movies as well 🥂

@heavyspoilers

Жыл бұрын

Ey thank you for staying up, hope you enjoy the video

@devonthemonster3932

Жыл бұрын

@@heavyspoilers can we get willow breakdowns if its possible ?

@piggypooo

Жыл бұрын

Go to bed!

@angelo4726

Жыл бұрын

@@piggypooo I did not go to sleep that day

@piggypooo

Жыл бұрын

@@angelo4726 it's important! For the health of your brain! And please don't notice my prior comment was sent to you at 3am🤣

Prayers Up For Jeremey Renner 🤝💯

@TellURide447

Жыл бұрын

We lost Ken block about the same day that this guy got hurt.

I’m so glad you did a breakdown for this film. I absolutely love this film Denis made a great concept with time, extra terrestrials and the it is shot so beautifully.

@timrush9779

Жыл бұрын

credit to Ted Chiang for the concept....

I don’t usually rewatch movies in the theaters. But I saw this film 3 times in the theater, dragging friends with me, and buying the DVD a few years later for a low-tech friend. Not to mention reading this and other works by Chiang. Both the story and film explores themes of life, loss, and joy so originally and profoundly it’s kinda a spiritual experience.

I just rewatched this for whats probably the 81st time and noticed something in the very beginning, when Louise wakes up and looks out of the window, the tree outside is very much resembling a heptapod.

I loved that I saw this in the theater when it came out but honestly what elevated the experience even more was that I didn’t see a single trailer. A few friends suggested this and I knew nothing about it going in. Needless to say it was a truly incredible experience that I wish I could experience for the first time again

This movie touched and affected me deeply.... As a person that has experienced loneliness, as a mother and as a person that would choose love always, even if it is for a short time. This movie is also one of the last movies Jóhann Jóhannsson composed the music for. I listen to the soundtrack frequently.

I was always under the impression it was Hannah's suffering Ian would've avoided. It's not about him not wanting to be sad it's about him not believing his daughter should be born into a life of such suffering for such a short time but Louise focuses on all the joy and happiness her daughter is able to enjoy and how much her living gives to the world.

@melrye7350

5 ай бұрын

100%. It's selfish of her to make the choice for him and for her daughter knowing how much pain it would cause to so many lives. All because she wanted a few moments of joy from another person.

This is such a moving and intelligent movie in so many levels. It reflects our humanity and our fragility so well. Not sure if anyone has mentioned this already in the comments but there are also similarities with the Virgin Mary story here. The character in the movie is given a premonition about her child and her end, the same as Mary who knows her child must die to “save humanity”. Although, it’s not known if Mary had a choice. I could watch this movie over and over again. Thank you for the analysis, I missed a few things along the way.

This film broke me. One of the best. Even Kubrick would be proud of this one. It’s incredibly relevant to the state of humanity.

Thank you for covering this - without doubt one of the greatest sci fi movies ever made.

One of the movies that improves the book and I can watch again and again. A perfect movie

I was fortunate to watch this movie 5 times in theaters. It got better every time

as a new dad myself, Arrival and About Time are the 2 awesome movies that i dont think i will be able to get through again 😭 the parent-child interactions just before death is just so heartbreaking for me, but thats one of the things that makes these films sooooo amazing!

@chef.in.the.woods7

Жыл бұрын

About Time is such a great movie. We lost our four year old son in 2010 due to a drunk driver. That movie was so spot on with ALL the emotions.

@SunnyIcedQueen

11 ай бұрын

Add Interstellar and this would be my list as well. I literally have annual viewings of all three movies every year.

@LordNelsonkm

8 ай бұрын

Try Collateral Beauty. Amazing cast.

Saw it at the Cinema going through mental health issues and it was a Godsend. Years later this was the first film my teenage daughter saw without looking at her phone. Spellbound. Wonderful breakdown - Cheers!

That was an outstanding review Paul thank you very much. I’ve always loved this movie, love Denis’s work and will now have to take some time to watch this one again. after gaining some better perspective after a review like this makes watching the movie even that much more enjoyable!!

@heavyspoilers

Жыл бұрын

Thank you man, glad you enjoyed the video and hope you’re having a good 2023 mate, thanks for all the support

Arrival is an example of how the best science fiction (speculative fiction) is an allegorical form of story telling, which is perhaps the oldest method of story telling. Funny how this feels like an attempt at examining the human condition in a novel way - what's old is new again.

Another Excellent Breakdown! I really never realized how masterfully crafted this film was. I definitely enjoyed it and thought it was beautiful in its messaging and complexity but I didn’t catch many of these finer details you’ve pointed out and how they apply to the bigger picture. I’ve enjoyed that in general about your recent older film breakdowns. You have shined a light on some of my favorite films and given me an even grander appreciation of them. Thank you Paul!🙏

Very well done! Thank you.

So glad to see this movie getting some love. It’s incredible. Great breakdown per usual.

One of my faves. Nice one Paul. ^^

This was a great overview of a great movie, you mentioned so many things I didn’t catch. Well done. Like the first and last words to her daughter 🤯

Great video as usual Paul

I love your picks for movies

You reminded me about this movie and for that I thank you Paul. Genuinely a beautiful story.

Cheers Paul. Terrific breakdown. This movie is a masterpiece. Not only did this movie give me a new favourite director but it also got me reading tons of science fiction again too. Chiang is an amazing storyteller.

Thanks for the info

Keep making breakdowns of old movies. They are good man I been loving it. The Interstellar was so good.

Great breakdown!!

Loved this, please keep up the good work! 🙂

I remember this film quite vividly. After my GF and I walked out of the theater, I realized I no longer wanted to be with her. Broke up with her right then and there. Glad I watched this film.

@xwers1234

2 ай бұрын

Wildest comment I’ve ever read

"The Nature of Daylight"...oh that song...still hits me in the feels every time. Then listening to it backwards just hammers home how brilliant a piece of art this really is.

So good! Cheers

Loving the throwbacks. Obliged.

Thank you. One of my favorite movies that I love to watch late at night. A great breakdown.

Thank you for going through this breakdown. This movie is so good that you cannot find it online for free anywhere and this was a great reminder of what I have been missing

Loved this.

I can say that I have a good eye for movies, when I saw this I knew that it would be remembered by many, I loved Memento and that non-linear way of telling a story, I find that doing it with the necessary quality to stand out is one of the most difficult for any creative team, and just this movie, the story, the cast, they make it as close to perfect as possible.

All-time favorite movie💛 Excellent breakdown.

That was amazing Paul, thank you so freaking much, can't wait to rewatch it with a fresh perspective!

@heavyspoilers

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Each time I watch this film, I pick up on some new detail. It's very interesting. The soundtrack alone can bring me to tears.

This movie made me feel extra grateful to be bilingual. It truly took the movie to another level of understanding.

Louise’s contact with the alien atmosphere is eventually passed on through her pregnancy, and their daughter was doomed from the start. Like radiation poisoning.

great job

I love this film. Denis Villeneuve is one of my favorite directors. I think it’s themes of language and that the journey is worth it even if the end is sad. Excellent breakdown, keep up the great work!

Really loving your channel! I’m a huge sci-fi, alien, time travel and language nerd, so as you can imagine this is one of my favorite movies.

Great breakdown Paul. I didn't have any plans to see this but now I'm going to watch it right now. Shabang!

This in an absolutely outstanding breakdown. Top work guys

Brilliant breakdown, in perpetuity 👍🏼 Great movie

Paul, this was an excellent break down.

@heavyspoilers

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Yay!!! You are back!!!

Theory time theme is now my Ring tone. Thanks for that funny sample.

@heavyspoilers

Жыл бұрын

Loooooool that’s made my day haha

awesome breakdown! makes me love the movie even more!! thank you!!!

To me never felt like Renner was upset about the decision to have the baby but upset about the decision not to try and save her life; she knew that the child was going to get cancer but she try hard to stop it

Loved the film. Appreciate the breakdown

just watched this a couple days ago and I loved it.

Excellent breakdown of an excellent movie!

Now that's a proper introduction!❤️ Paul!! Another favourite of all time for me😍

Superb breakdown

Love this movie. It's unique. Had to watch it twice to totally understand it. It's like the Doctor and River Song stories where it's not in order. Well that's how I see it. A sci-fi where the aliens are not the bad guys, which is good to see finally. Too many invasions and not enough kindness with a message for mankind.

It's wonderful that you started breaking down older movies too!

I recall first reading the story when the anthology was released, and feeling the story was the most problematic, yet the fullest one in the book. the rest were smaller. linear. years later I had only vague recollection when I went to see it in theatre. my roommate was confused as I went back to theatre two days later- not my thing at all. it still got me at all the same spots. I do not recommend it to everyone, but I usually hear those I've told have been reduced to tears. not a huge Amy Adams fan, until this movie. she was perfect for it, and in it.

Really great movie and really great breakdown, thank you.

Apparently the canaries usually survived working in the coal Mines. They would just pass out from the gasses, and wake back up when they were brought back to the surface with the miners

I love these breakdowns…

The classic movie breakdowns are my favorite thing on the channel, and you are on an amazing roll! The PRESTIGE and THING videos were fantastic, and this one just knocked my socks off. ARRIVAL is one of my favorite films of the century so far, and it's delightful to see one of my favorite channels give it such detailed love! I'm sure your list for these is endless, but man... I'd love to get your take on CHILDREN OF MEN.

@hsonmari6665

Жыл бұрын

Oh good choice! Children of Men is rad.

I have to watch Arrival again. Thanks for the breakdown

I’m really enjoying these analyses of older movies instead of just covering leaks, etc, for upcoming ones.

I really enjoyed Arrival when I first watched it. But after watching your breakdown, I went and watched it again. WOW! The second viewing was like watching a better version of the movie! It makes me miss college where they have a course or class with a collective viewing a film or reading literature, then discussing & processing it afterwards. I found those courses enhanced my appreciation & enjoyment of their subject matter, just as your Arrival breakdown made the film more enjoyable an experience. THANKS!

I speak a second language on a daily basis and know other languages and I can attest that it does affect you thinking and thought process' and if it doesn't then you don't really immerse yourself in that language. When I learnt sign language if forced me to be more facial expressive, grimacing and sticking my tongue out and mimicking to aid the understanding so it changes everything, turns you into someone else. In sign language if you don't give up to that expression then what you 'sign' makes little sense. It is like watching someone play an instrument with your ears plugged, you see the movement but your brain hears nothing.

Thank you for these classic break downs you and screen crush are the only ones I like to breakdown things new rockstars got annoying

@angelo4726

Жыл бұрын

💯 well said

@ssshar2176

Жыл бұрын

I can’t get into new rockstars because they react to other peoples work. Super Lazy to me!

@e.enriquez4589

Жыл бұрын

@@ssshar2176 not only that there theory videos ruined the MCU, heavy and screen have theories but they are somewhat logical compared to what rockstars says

Risking repeating myself coming back to a favorite movie, this reminds me of a favorite song "The Dance" by Garth Brooks. And now I'm glad I didn't know The way it all would end The way it all would go Our lives are better left to chance I could have missed the pain But I'd have had to miss the dance Its the same choice when you decide to home a dog. Their lives are so short in comparison but they love so much. I choose joy every day instead of fearing loss.

I’m discovering these breakdown videos for the first time and they are giving me life

Good stuff

Excellent breakdown of an amazing movie.

@darylmorse

Жыл бұрын

After watching this breakdown, I watched the movie again. Every time I watch it, I notice more little details. Villeneuve is an excellent director and the acting is also excellent.

Great review of a spectacular story vehicle for an exercise of really impressive intellect.

Very well done! I think the biggest communication breakdown, on a personal level, was her not telling her future husband that their child was going to die. It just feels like a very selfish decision to not communicate that very important piece of information so they could decide together.

@liloruf2838

8 ай бұрын

I disagree. If she knows, he'll leave her when she tells him she can see the future, then why tell him more? Then he obviously doesn't want to know more. Some people aren't made for the truth.

@melrye7350

5 ай бұрын

Extremely selfish. Also making the choice to have a child knowing they would suffer and die is so wrong

@R0land1199

5 ай бұрын

@@liloruf2838 I am probably missing something in what you are saying but is it obvious he doesn't want to know more or is that an assumption on her part? Does not giving him all the information before they conceive a child together because she assumes he won't want to know make her less selfish? I would suggest no but I'm open to ideas.

@R0land1199

5 ай бұрын

@@melrye7350 That's a bit trickier. If they didn't know ahead of time and the child was born but had some great positives in her life before the negative we would say, "Well at least they had a great life in the time they had." The question, which I do not have an answer to, is: Does knowing ahead of time change that statement?

@liloruf2838

5 ай бұрын

How about.. Isn't telling him about the death of their future daughter the more selfish decision in some way? This way he could enjoy years of love for his daughter, unaffected by her fate. I don't think everyone is able to carry such a burden and it really shouldn't have influenced his decision anyway. He's blaming her because he's grieving.