Everything Wrong With Arrival In 16 Minutes Or Less

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Arrival was easily one of the best films of 2016, and all of us at CinemaSins just loved it. That being said... no movie is without sin. So...
Thursday: Something terrible from 2017.
Remember, no movie is without sin! Which movie's sins should we expose next?!
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  • @marielaberge8236
    @marielaberge82366 жыл бұрын

    You know what blew my mind? Ian quoting Louise's book at the beginning and saying that language is the first weapon ever drawn in any conflict. THEN the aliens later say ''offer weapon'' and it turns out they're OFFERING THEIR LANGUAGE

  • @takeyo1983

    @takeyo1983

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bääääm why are u blowing my mind! i totally have to watch it again!!

  • @marielaberge8236

    @marielaberge8236

    6 жыл бұрын

    They had enough understanding of the heptapods' language by then that they could finally ask "What is your purpose?" to which the aliens replied "offer weapon". The humans took that to mean that the aliens wanted them to offer them weapons, but it turns out the aliens' purpose was to teach them their language

  • @jacobdally5820

    @jacobdally5820

    6 жыл бұрын

    Another moment worth re-watching is when them couple of idiots try to blow up the ship, the alien that died stays behind to save the main character because it knows its going to die anyway because it sees everything at once. I explained that really poorly so it probably doesnt make sense

  • @marielaberge8236

    @marielaberge8236

    6 жыл бұрын

    No I get it. When Louise finally realised that their purpose was to teach their language and she explained that the language altered one's perception of time, I remember thinking that the dying alien must have known it would die if it came to Earth, but came anyway

  • @savantgarde8534

    @savantgarde8534

    6 жыл бұрын

    So so subtle but so brilliant

  • @lindybeige
    @lindybeige4 жыл бұрын

    Denmark speaks for Greenland, because Denmark runs Greenland.

  • @ziegfeld4131

    @ziegfeld4131

    3 жыл бұрын

    Greenland does not depend on denmark for diplomacy so no denmark would not speak for them on an issue like this

  • @ziegfeld4131

    @ziegfeld4131

    3 жыл бұрын

    Greenland is an autonomous country denmark has little actual control over them

  • @ihcfn

    @ihcfn

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh my god! It's the beige one himself! You have been blessed!

  • @aetherofthenorth9700

    @aetherofthenorth9700

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ziegfeld4131 But Denmark still runs foreign affairs and defence for Greenland, so it makes sense Denmark would be there on behalf of them.

  • @sirhabanero647

    @sirhabanero647

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shit its lindyoffwhite, how u doin son thanks for the tip on the easily googlable sin they added, thats a ree from me

  • @RuberDildo
    @RuberDildo5 жыл бұрын

    Saddest part of this movie is that Abbot knew he was going to die all along. Oh yeah, Louise knew her daughter would die too, but I was mainly sad for Abbot xD.

  • @lockedin6699

    @lockedin6699

    5 жыл бұрын

    You could argue she was selfish for deciding to bring a child into the world having know she will surfer and also die in the future. But I like the way Louise explained it; she had the daughter because she may have had a positive influence on others and not having her WOULD have been selfish.

  • @sharpe227

    @sharpe227

    5 жыл бұрын

    Everyone knows one day their child will die.Most hope and assume it is after living a long life.

  • @renes7280

    @renes7280

    4 жыл бұрын

    Huey Freeman exactly my point. Also the movie say that events through time are set in stone, so I don‘t think not having her would even have been an option after the movies logic. Of course you can ask yourself „well if she just shoots herself right then and there, wouldn‘t that throw time off?“ but that‘s a question for the movie to answer lol.

  • @viddergrapho8488

    @viddergrapho8488

    4 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one not over the chaos of living your life all at once? Like, Jeremy says Louise talking to the general and getting the phone number was convenient, but in that non-linear way of thinking you're literally being hit with your past, present, and future all at once. God, that would be so disorienting and you can see the impact of it when she's interacting with her daughter. The real coincidence is that she managed to focus long enough to bring that future knowledge back to the precise point in the past where she needed it. Not to mention the absolute chaos of only knowing linear time and suddenly experiencing non-linear. That would be the definition of feeling yourself go insane.

  • @Meechy37

    @Meechy37

    4 жыл бұрын

    They get into this in the short story, "Story of Your Life." Dr. Banks questions if knowing the future changes a person. It's impossible for us to imagine because we are slated in time, but you could ask if we would actually commit to actions. Just something to try and think about.

  • @thesprawl2361
    @thesprawl23614 жыл бұрын

    Remove many, many, many sins for Max Richter's beyond gorgeous music.

  • @iwatchkittenvids45

    @iwatchkittenvids45

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am shooketh he didn't take any off for a great score

  • @motrhead69

    @motrhead69

    3 жыл бұрын

    No..Hans Zimmer

  • @thesprawl2361

    @thesprawl2361

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@motrhead69 Nope

  • @vyuzen5464

    @vyuzen5464

    3 жыл бұрын

    and those back for forcing the dude to play it for a sh*t movie

  • @slevinchannel7589

    @slevinchannel7589

    3 жыл бұрын

    This dumb-as-heck Tapping-your-own-chest-and-say-your-name/species deserves at least 10 Sins. It's cliche, logic plot and much more, all on one, so 10 Sins are NICE and POLITE. If you actually know stuff about the subject, you find this movie way more groossly dumb.

  • @rhymingdinosaur964
    @rhymingdinosaur9646 жыл бұрын

    Some times I watch cinema sins just so I can watch a shorter version of whatever movie he's reviewing.

  • @TheZainshah0007

    @TheZainshah0007

    6 жыл бұрын

    perfectdaysofplunder bruh.... really?

  • @dankwarmouse6248

    @dankwarmouse6248

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's comments like these that show there is a problem with CinemaSins that many people have tried to address and many fanboys have refused to acknowledge.

  • @karthiktumuluru5650

    @karthiktumuluru5650

    6 жыл бұрын

    "I have always regretted that none of my films have contained a lap-dance. From 2001 to Eyes Wide Shut, I have constantly missed the opportunity to film one, and will forever feel incomplete that I could not achieve this simple goal." - Stanley Kubrick

  • @PauLtus_B

    @PauLtus_B

    6 жыл бұрын

    You're a terrible person.

  • @percyvile

    @percyvile

    6 жыл бұрын

    You're robbing yourself of everything which makes movies great,

  • @markbonik
    @markbonik6 жыл бұрын

    Greenland is an autonomous country withing the Kingdom of Denmark. Soo thats actually accurate in the movie.

  • @sok5537

    @sok5537

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mark Bonikowsky just wanted to write that lol

  • @marcusmoser6911

    @marcusmoser6911

    6 жыл бұрын

    That’s a sin for cinemasins not knowing this.

  • @DennisBratland

    @DennisBratland

    6 жыл бұрын

    If it had said Greenland they’d have sinned it for Greenland not being a country. Or “In case you confused it with Greenland, Texas”

  • @Fools_Requiem

    @Fools_Requiem

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad someone mentioned it. Also, * *Ding* *.

  • @user-qs7xy8jv8l

    @user-qs7xy8jv8l

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mark Bonikowsky I don't get how people don't know that I mean it's written in every map : Greenland (Denmark)

  • @fasillimerick7394
    @fasillimerick73942 жыл бұрын

    At 3:08, the part when Louise asks "how many are speaking" and Forest Whitaker waits to answer is perfect. It expands the reality of the moment. He's a full bird Colonel with discretion on what he can and can not say. If he had immediately answered it would have been him knowing the dialogue. Him taking a moment to weigh the situation, helped immerse me in the moment.

  • @aureliontroll2341

    @aureliontroll2341

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed . It make more human.

  • @juanchavez1176
    @juanchavez11765 жыл бұрын

    I think one of the most important aspects of this movie was the way it destabilized our understanding of language and context. Ian thought this was a math problem so it became a math problem and Louise thought this was a linguist problem so her mind became synced with the Heptapod’s understanding of time. We fail to grasp the ways our language affects how we think of ideas. The reason future Louise didn’t remember the phone call was because it hadn’t happened yet. Future Louise and Present Louise are both memories of each other simply forgotten until remembered. Future remembered the present just as present remembered the future. Just like the last line was “I’ve forgotten how good it felt to be held by you” despite that being the first time they had hugged. The reason we skip the first interaction is to prepare us for the jarring jumping through time where that meeting has always already occurred.

  • @harsha6696

    @harsha6696

    3 жыл бұрын

    this is brilliant!

  • @meghanmccrary9317

    @meghanmccrary9317

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like the way you think my friend. And now I wanna rewatch with this comment in mind

  • @Dorian-_-Gray

    @Dorian-_-Gray

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nothing about his movie "destabilized our understanding of language and context". That makes no sense at all. It's just a bunch of words thrown together that don't mean anything coherent. This movie did not cause any change in the general understanding of language in the real world. "Destabilize our understanding of context" is gibberish altogether. This was just a decently directed science fiction movie, well-designed to make audiences feel smarter than they are.

  • @ShreyasTripathy93

    @ShreyasTripathy93

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Dorian-_-Gray You missed the main premise of the movie, then. It starts with the translation and meaning of the Sanskrit word because it wants you to understand that just because you know the translation of a word in a different language, doesn't mean you know its meaning and how it may be used in a sentence or in a certain context. "Destabilizing our understanding of language and context" isn't just gibberish. It has a very clear meaning if you understand what the movie is truly about. The movie is about how bias can completely change how you interpret things

  • @daseinz

    @daseinz

    Жыл бұрын

    Well it is based on a short story.

  • @Pearl127
    @Pearl1276 жыл бұрын

    But Greenland is PART of Denmark. Sinning your sins.

  • @thomaswillard6267

    @thomaswillard6267

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pearl127 cinemasinssins

  • @MeowgiMan

    @MeowgiMan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pearl127 i was looking through comments trying to find this comment

  • @EjvindGEMDark

    @EjvindGEMDark

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah seriously, that's a lack of basic geography CS. Come on boys.

  • @AonghasMcTavish

    @AonghasMcTavish

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thomas Willard that name has so many letter s's I'm sinning it.

  • @yourethatmantis5178

    @yourethatmantis5178

    6 жыл бұрын

    now to be fair I don't think Greenland actually likes Denmark and Greenland has their own flag

  • @Pfhorrest
    @Pfhorrest6 жыл бұрын

    10:28 Greenland is a territory of Denmark, so yes, Denmark is representing Greenland, the same way Washington, D.C. would represent America if a shell had landed in Hawaii.

  • @memebois9764

    @memebois9764

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pfhorrest Hawaii is state, they are not just a territory. Now if an alien egg landed on Puerto Rico or Guam then it would be like that.

  • @mike229290

    @mike229290

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @ragglock

    @ragglock

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sins get 1 sin for poor education 🎵

  • @louisgram4439

    @louisgram4439

    6 жыл бұрын

    Can confirm, lives there

  • @halofrog1861

    @halofrog1861

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pfhorrest No, Washington would represent the USA, not America

  • @am3thysts
    @am3thysts3 жыл бұрын

    Can we just appreciate this movie for not holding your hand? Her translation about the cows showing that she has a neutral bias to translating words in context, but you would have to think carefully to realize it. A lot more “show not tell” than most movies we see these days, like the gravity switching and witnessing scenes with her rather than her explaining them as she walks. Having an actually awesome plot twist and is epic and that most viewers would not see coming.

  • @scifi_shop

    @scifi_shop

    10 ай бұрын

    Still too much tells Tbh. Knew the ending half way through the movie

  • @lawsonone6015
    @lawsonone60154 жыл бұрын

    1:42 That is *literally* the way college students act when an alarm goes off. The sin is actually real life. Ding.

  • @slevinchannel7589

    @slevinchannel7589

    3 жыл бұрын

    This dumb-as-heck Tapping-your-own-chest-and-say-your-name/species deserves at least 10 Sins. It's cliche, logic plot and much more, all on one, so 10 Sins are NICE and POLITE. If you actually know stuff about the subject, you find this movie way more groossly dumb.

  • @Kyle34562

    @Kyle34562

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@slevinchannel7589 lmaooo okay bud

  • @slevinchannel7589

    @slevinchannel7589

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Kyle34562 That was the smartest you could come up with? Wow.

  • @wenlongan9527

    @wenlongan9527

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@slevinchannel7589 most linguists found the film fine. The only sketchy part are the clichés of “linguists-as-translations” and the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis stuff. The bit you’re complaining about you should know about if you’ve ever taken LING101 at university. It’s called monolingual discovery, just hammed up because it’s cinema. All you had to do was Google a bit: dankoboldt.com/linguistics-in-arrival/

  • @gabrielsisneros3802

    @gabrielsisneros3802

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@slevinchannel7589 why are you commenting this exact phrase under so many comments. Obsessed much?

  • @SuperBeanson
    @SuperBeanson6 жыл бұрын

    4:02 The reason for this question: she shows the army dude that the other prof. is likely to translate sensitive words (such as this ambiguous Sanskrit word) with a bias toward 'aggressive' meanings. The army dude realises that with this sensitive alien situation they need a translator to be more biased towards 'neutral' translations.

  • @TheTrueFu

    @TheTrueFu

    5 жыл бұрын

    Si Barron That is a great explanation my dude. Except all the other sins pointed to the general being rather thick and would in no way support this explanation lol

  • @pau0228

    @pau0228

    5 жыл бұрын

    You're a genius!

  • @JosephDanielVids

    @JosephDanielVids

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's message that could have been conveyed much more clearly, either way, the approach was completely nonsensical movie wise and realistically wise

  • @ashuadhikari6372

    @ashuadhikari6372

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@JosephDanielVids But isn't it great not to be spoon-fed every detail. To see this kind of revelations in forums/discussions, to be in awe, and to exclaim that's nice!!

  • @kfmaster_2671

    @kfmaster_2671

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was looking for this comment... thanks :)

  • @CaptainJdotJdot
    @CaptainJdotJdot6 жыл бұрын

    10:27 Greenland is a territory of Denmark. It's not a sin, it's more like another sign of the film's credibility.

  • @noahdavis8285

    @noahdavis8285

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was just coming down here to comment this! Gotta nit-pick my favorite nit-picker.

  • @rock3tcatU233

    @rock3tcatU233

    6 жыл бұрын

    And Denmark is a territory of Germany, so...

  • @dubemotionpicture

    @dubemotionpicture

    6 жыл бұрын

    ⵔⵓⴽⴰⵜⴽⴰⵜ it isn't...

  • @lukeanimal

    @lukeanimal

    6 жыл бұрын

    ⵔⵓⴽⴰⵜⴽⴰⵜ Who told you that? It’s very wrong.

  • @rincinerate3984

    @rincinerate3984

    6 жыл бұрын

    They never said it wasn't part of Denmark, but that it can be identified by its own location. You don't label the British Virgin Islands as United Kingdom. It's too far for it to make sense.

  • @dubemotionpicture
    @dubemotionpicture4 жыл бұрын

    I think the fact that he took 3 sins off the film just for how it is, and that so many of the sins are jokes, shows how much he actually likes this film

  • @mechanicpluto2430

    @mechanicpluto2430

    4 жыл бұрын

    Which no one else on Earth seems to understand. SIN +1

  • @JohnRundle09
    @JohnRundle095 жыл бұрын

    @4:15 Forrest doesn't need to know the real translation. He needs someone who understands how language works in relation to a society. Cows were very important to those that spoke Sanskrit. This example demonstrates a theory that is the basis for the whole movie. Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis: that a language influences how its speakers perceive the world. Once she speaks in their language it changes how she perceives the world (and time).

  • @Bleilo
    @Bleilo6 жыл бұрын

    10:28 Greenland is actually a part of the Kingdom of Denmark.

  • @anderralph

    @anderralph

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jeremy confirms the American stereotype of not knowing anything about geography *PING*

  • @benneuhaus5602

    @benneuhaus5602

    6 жыл бұрын

    I had to stop watching after that

  • @askredditquestions967

    @askredditquestions967

    6 жыл бұрын

    that's why he said "over 1800 miles away" because if they were in greenland, the location should say greenland on the screen, and if they were in mainland denmark then they should be in denmark

  • @delfinn4326

    @delfinn4326

    6 жыл бұрын

    Martin Macak Nope they didn't. They just got it wrong.

  • @Johns3n

    @Johns3n

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greenland is mainland denmark... technically...

  • @smartmineofficial
    @smartmineofficial6 жыл бұрын

    (10:28) Greenland is owned by Denmark. Adding a sin.

  • @Atilla_the_Fun

    @Atilla_the_Fun

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cinema Sins is fucking retarded these days.

  • @ausgeflippt6126

    @ausgeflippt6126

    6 жыл бұрын

    Is it just me or was this typical American? Critizing the difference between a zero-sum and a positive sum game, but way too lazy to just Google Denmark and Greenland?

  • @Dj2viking2

    @Dj2viking2

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well technically, Greenland has their own government and is independent. But they are financially dependent of Denmark

  • @oompie815

    @oompie815

    6 жыл бұрын

    But Greenland is still a independent country not reliable off Denmark. One sin removed.

  • @alluraambrose2978

    @alluraambrose2978

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greenland has almost no inhabitants at all, when world level events happen like this pretty sure Denmark will take over.

  • @BoBoZoBo
    @BoBoZoBo5 жыл бұрын

    Read the short story as well and from what I gather - she is not really living in multiple timelines, she is "remembering" the future. Just like any memory of the past, sometimes it is hard to recall clearly and immediately. Despite the deterministic nature of life, it is still worth experiencing, for the same reason we like to re-watch movies we love, re-read books we enjoy, or re-visit places we know well.

  • @jamescallahan7000
    @jamescallahan70005 жыл бұрын

    Idk why people get salty when CinemaSins does their favourite movie. I love it when they do mine, its fun by mostly just poking fun at little things in the movie.

  • @Cavetroll100

    @Cavetroll100

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just watched Arrival, then, right afterwards watched this. That and the fact that Arrival is a favorite just made it twice the fun. Too tickled for words!

  • @slevinchannel7589

    @slevinchannel7589

    3 жыл бұрын

    This dumb-as-heck Tapping-your-own-chest-and-say-your-name/species deserves at least 10 Sins. It's cliche, logic plot and much more, all on one, so 10 Sins are NICE and POLITE. If you actually know stuff about the subject, you find this movie way more groossly dumb.

  • @jamescallahan7000

    @jamescallahan7000

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@slevinchannel7589 what subject? Biology? Film?

  • @slevinchannel7589

    @slevinchannel7589

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jamescallahan7000 ALIENS.

  • @danielbordeianu5841

    @danielbordeianu5841

    3 жыл бұрын

    How cryptic. Which aliens have you met? The little grey ones, or the ones with plaster ridges on their skulls or the tiny furry ones?

  • @2ndsuspost
    @2ndsuspost6 жыл бұрын

    got about half way through, and decided to go watch the movie before you spoiled it, thank you for forcing me to watch an amazing movie :)

  • @hayleynitschke8296

    @hayleynitschke8296

    5 жыл бұрын

    I got a good minute in and just finished watching the movie and then the rest of this! It was a really good movie. Too complex for my pea brain, but still great😂

  • @lizp5004

    @lizp5004

    4 жыл бұрын

    See... I remember watching parts of this movie, before, popping in & out of the room but didn't really get into it. I'm guessing - after watching this - it's bc it's the type of movie u have to follow all the way thru, or u won't know wth is going on... so maybe I should give it another watch!

  • @2SeizeTheDay

    @2SeizeTheDay

    4 жыл бұрын

    Liking your comment so more viewers will do the same lol. This movie is truly amazing.

  • @goranmilic442

    @goranmilic442

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hayleynitschke8296 He missed a part where she asked (before seeing aliens for the first time) what do they look like and they told her - you'll see. It really looked like Amy Adams wasn't warned at all what do aliens and ship look like. Which is weird. She would be fully debriefed before entering. Otherwise it would be too much stress.

  • @danielbordeianu5841

    @danielbordeianu5841

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@goranmilic442 Not necessarily. The army is not concerned with individual stress levels. In this scenario, they wanted fresh perspectives, unbiased by someone's attempts at describing the aliens.

  • @ebsaeshete4395
    @ebsaeshete43956 жыл бұрын

    Greenland is owned by Denmark (10:28). Ding!

  • @debodatta7398

    @debodatta7398

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's not owned by Denmark... its a Danish dependent territory with autonomous self rule.

  • @Gh0stClown

    @Gh0stClown

    6 жыл бұрын

    @Debo Datta yeah but if literal fucking aliens turned up in Greenland, the Danes are probably going to take over that situation.

  • @pr0kris

    @pr0kris

    6 жыл бұрын

    Indeed they would - While Greenland is largely self-governed, one area that Denmark controls is military and policing. Which an alien landing would definitely fall under.

  • @JUMALATION1

    @JUMALATION1

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was looking for this comment. Even tho they are autonomous Denmark would probable still be in charge tbh

  • @rdimartino
    @rdimartino3 жыл бұрын

    Day 27 is consistent with some parts of the movie. When they go back in before the explosion, they say it's session 36 part 2. It's also said that the shell opens up every 18 hours. 27 days * 24 hours / 18 hrs per opening = 36 sessions.

  • @mastermuffles7097
    @mastermuffles70974 жыл бұрын

    10:37 Actually Greenland is technically part of Denmark. So yeah, Denmark is calling the shots for Greenland

  • @FluFFY13G
    @FluFFY13G6 жыл бұрын

    I think the sin about Ian & Louise not wearing their suits while the rest of crew still do when visiting the Heptapods is because they don't trust the aliens whereas Ian & Louise do IT'S A METAPHOR

  • @MrJakeyz

    @MrJakeyz

    6 жыл бұрын

    Miss Keisha I wouldn't take these videos too seriously. Half the stuff is wrong or nitpicking because "comedy/satire"

  • @frankbradley4487

    @frankbradley4487

    6 жыл бұрын

    Miss Keisha I agree 100% with that!

  • @IJustLoveStories

    @IJustLoveStories

    6 жыл бұрын

    including a visual metaphor in a movie cliché. *ding*

  • @jimb.7523

    @jimb.7523

    6 жыл бұрын

    *"It's METAPHORICAL!!!!!"* -Taserface

  • @imanis.h.8431

    @imanis.h.8431

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jake Johnson you can sometimes tell when a sin was legitimately thought of though, especially with continuation errors and plot holes. The ones that aren't supposed to be taken seriously are the ones that are so over the top ridiculous or their trademarks like the everytime a character eats an apple. Of course, you're also right to some extent. I never take any of these videos personally. It's just funny.

  • @Grafight23
    @Grafight236 жыл бұрын

    8:10 It's explained that their language is not phonetic, so whatever names they have in writing have no English spoken word equivalent. You can call them whatever you want. I would've called them "Thing 1" and "Thing 2" 12:39. If aliens are writing on a giant screen you would want to capture what they write in very high definition, which would allow plenty of zoom capability. 13:22. Yes they understood English before they arrived. They pretended not to, to cause dread and anxiety, so the humans were highly motivated to learn their coffee stain language, as if their lives depended on it. Only then they would be ready for the gift.

  • @pouyathedestroya9095

    @pouyathedestroya9095

    6 жыл бұрын

    hahaha coffee stain language. But if they understood english doesn't that mean they could write it?

  • @Grafight23

    @Grafight23

    6 жыл бұрын

    I would say yes. But they wanted humans to have total immersion. Like in my Spanish class. The teacher knows English but she won't use it, so we are forced to think in Spanish.

  • @pouyathedestroya9095

    @pouyathedestroya9095

    6 жыл бұрын

    makes sense

  • @nstrisower

    @nstrisower

    5 жыл бұрын

    I would have called them Sam and Frodo. :P

  • @daverobson3084

    @daverobson3084

    5 жыл бұрын

    Grafight23 Never call an alien " thing" anything. Never works out well.

  • @bewmdogg
    @bewmdogg5 жыл бұрын

    44 seconds in and she does the exact cursory glance you accuse her of not doing. Great job.

  • @brandonmshrock
    @brandonmshrock2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly though, this was one of the best movies in modern cinema. It is heartfelt, touching, and totally recommended

  • @robotraptor3369
    @robotraptor33696 жыл бұрын

    great film. in case anyones wondering , the line loiuse says to the general in chinese translates to "in war there are no winners, only widows".

  • @hairydino4568

    @hairydino4568

    6 жыл бұрын

    Robot Raptor Rawr! Grr! rarr! Sorry, had to. Obligatory Dino talk.

  • @aadityabhattacharya

    @aadityabhattacharya

    6 жыл бұрын

    It doesn't make sense for me that they subtitled the alien language but not that dialogue

  • @IFynxI

    @IFynxI

    6 жыл бұрын

    probably to maintain the idea that it was supposed to be an extremely private line

  • @younglord2140

    @younglord2140

    6 жыл бұрын

    Robot Raptor wow that does not seem like it would stop me from going to war lol I thought I would be something else

  • @robotraptor3369

    @robotraptor3369

    6 жыл бұрын

    yeah,the line was supposed to be the generals wifes dying words which no one else could have possibly known asides from the general. i think the interesting thing is that one of the movies themes is something called retrospective memory, the idea that if time was not relevant then we could remember future events like we remembers past event. this is what happens to louise in the film. time is not relevant to the aliens (or entitys.) so as louise begins to understand and become fluent in there language which is non linear she starts to see future happenings. mainly her daughter. if i was to hazard a guess id say that the generals wife had not yet died and that what louise says to him triggers a future memory in which not only is she a widow, which would mean the general is dead, but also in a reality where war had been initiated and the general had lost.

  • @flyercurse
    @flyercurse6 жыл бұрын

    don't look at the giant alien egg, don't look at the giant alien egg... dammit!

  • @FurretInASuit

    @FurretInASuit

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes i also watched the video. Thanks for reminding me

  • @ninjamonkeys21
    @ninjamonkeys216 жыл бұрын

    1:53 narrator cant hide the moment when he almost laughs reading this line

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick6824 жыл бұрын

    Glenn Villeneuve, a western ascetic who has opted for a primitive existence said it best “when I’ve been out here long enough, I stop thinking in words”. I cannot stress enough how the ramifications of that are so positively world and paradigm shattering yet it’s simply glossed over; and honestly how many people know he said it, or such a state of being is even possible?

  • @kyleanderson9281
    @kyleanderson92816 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to explain that Denmark is representing Greenland because Greenland is technically still ruled by Denmark even though it's an independent state. Greenland : Denmark :: Guam : US

  • @RyuusanFT86

    @RyuusanFT86

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm thinking of moving to Aarhus but am not too sure where that 82% of English Speaking Denmark is. I don't want to roll the dice and move to the wrong town.

  • @shasterdhari
    @shasterdhari6 жыл бұрын

    I actually really liked this movie. It was a balanced amount of sci-fi and didn't have horrors and screaming at every turn. I legitimately did not know what was going to happen and had so many questions about the aliens.

  • @icecreamdrought

    @icecreamdrought

    6 жыл бұрын

    SimmonSays no movie is without sin.

  • @eisbaeraurora

    @eisbaeraurora

    6 жыл бұрын

    CinemaSins LOVED this movie. They say so on the SinCast. EDIT: It also says so in the description of this video. Whoops.

  • @bojackson3073

    @bojackson3073

    6 жыл бұрын

    you act like its considered bad just because it was on Cinema Sins. This movie got AMAZING ratings, its not surprising that you liked it.

  • @Kable_TV

    @Kable_TV

    6 жыл бұрын

    The ending was lazy, they clearly didn't know how to end it or where to go with it so they made it into a shitty art film at the end it was bullshit tried to be thoughtful but it seemed more to me they just ran out of money, a lot of scenes use cheap techniques to avoid spending money on set stuff

  • @ellej6985

    @ellej6985

    6 жыл бұрын

    SimmonSays sounds like a good watch. I tend to stay away from MODERN sci fi (except Star Wars lol ) because they add unnecessary horror, gore and creepy stories to it. Tried watching Star Trek Discovery but episode 9 of that was unbelievably disgusting.... so anyway thanks for your comment bc I do love sci fi and knowing that this isn’t as bad horror wise is v helpful ! 🙃

  • @beefcakeandgravy
    @beefcakeandgravy5 жыл бұрын

    11:45 _Ahem_ *"A High Seven"*

  • @atomicmrpelly

    @atomicmrpelly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Technically she'd still be giving him a high 5, but he'd be giving her the high 7.

  • @PayondeAwsome
    @PayondeAwsome5 жыл бұрын

    Sin 47, they explain that their symbols and their sounds have no correlation to their sounds, unlike any language on Earth

  • @Lord_and_Savior_Gay_Jesus
    @Lord_and_Savior_Gay_Jesus6 жыл бұрын

    This one is going to be tough to watch considering _Arrival_ is one of my favorite movies.

  • @doom453

    @doom453

    6 жыл бұрын

    Literally Shitler Same here top 3 movies I watched last year.

  • @lpharmer3496

    @lpharmer3496

    6 жыл бұрын

    For some reason its not for me, I enjoy Cinemasins videos on terrible movies because they rip them apart, bt on movies I love, like this one its pretty funny still because... no movie is without sin.

  • @drstrangelove9525

    @drstrangelove9525

    6 жыл бұрын

    Literally Shitler yea

  • @ThatSoddingGamer

    @ThatSoddingGamer

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lower sin count than average (esp. considering the runtime), including some sin reductions.

  • @paulaburrows8660

    @paulaburrows8660

    6 жыл бұрын

    Literally Shitler agreed I've totally wimped out on a couple of my favourite movies.

  • @calzone7777
    @calzone77776 жыл бұрын

    10:28 Denmark is calling the shots for Greenland because they control Greenland

  • @Mr12Relic
    @Mr12Relic5 жыл бұрын

    6:14 People on that base would be completely isolated from everything. There wouldn't be TVs, internet access, or family chats.

  • @missAlice1990
    @missAlice19902 жыл бұрын

    The most unrealistic thing in this movie (yes, more unrealistic than the aliens) was bringing in ONE linguist and ONE physicist (both too young to have substantial recognition). I imagine in a scenario like this they would rather create a team consisting of the best and most renowned linguists, interpreters, encryptors/decryptors, mathematicians, possibly biologists and maybe physicists. I get it was a secret project but that doesn't excuse giving that important task to only two people. I get that more people means more disagreement but also disagreement means the supervisors get to know various viewpoints and interpretations while getting more argumentation behind each idea and hypothesis. It would be a mess, I know, but closer to the truth than one person's neatly explained theory. Still, I think it's an amazing movie, really loved it overall.

  • @endorbr
    @endorbr6 жыл бұрын

    Majong is commonly played by millions of people today. It is readily available on devices everywhere. Not a stretch to believe that Louise would recognize the tile sets. Pretty sure you would immediately make the connection to playing cards if someone said King, Queen, Jack, Ace.

  • @agonleed3841

    @agonleed3841

    5 жыл бұрын

    endorbr mahjohngg is one of my favorite games. Yet just the mention of the tile sets doesn't make me immediately think Mahjohngg Now...nothing she's done show any hint that she played anything like that. And her own life seems to keep her busy as well....hes mostly just sinning that it's like she knows EVERYTHING. While, king, queen Jack, etc are specific to cards mostly. Saying king and queen is one thing, but start saying jack and ace and it gives it away. But mentioning flowers....they could mean actual flowers...or the meaning we have set for those flowers to mean. Or the color or the location where they grow mostly. AND Mahjohngg That's the point of the sin

  • @Ironfangzu

    @Ironfangzu

    4 жыл бұрын

    absolutely right Endorbr, except it may not be millions but billions, haha. Almost all Chinese know how to play Mahjong and there are billions. Also, many non-chinese play Mahjong as aps on their smart phones.

  • @necromelodia2432

    @necromelodia2432

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@agonleed3841 to be fair, i would not associate "King, Queen, Ace and Jack" with cards if I heard them being said in another language. Perhaps listening to her speak the name of the tiles in mandarin would help? You know what she says - language alters the way your mind works

  • @agonleed3841

    @agonleed3841

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@necromelodia2432 i can see saying it or such..but..cards are universal enough AND very specific. You don't have to know the language. Just like i don't know the language of every variation of mahjong. I recognize the images..it's just that certain versions would lead you to other paths of thoughts. Moreso than the deck of cards. Path of least resistance

  • @davidwilliam1638

    @davidwilliam1638

    2 жыл бұрын

    When I was 5 or 6 my mom's pc had Majong installed, I am not saying that in age of 5 I was able to recognize and play Majong, but since that time the game wasn't alien to me anymore, so super plausible for a big brain linguistic specialist who happens to speak mandarin to know it.

  • @ChairmanAnime
    @ChairmanAnime6 жыл бұрын

    I think Louise experiences time non-consecutively but still linearly, so instead of going from time A to time B to time C like a normal human she goes from time A to time C to time B, each moment doesn't lead to the next consecutive moment in time. That's my explanation to why she suddenly seems to know nothing when she meets General Shang, its because future Louise is suddenly replaced by past Louise who now needs to know what's going on.

  • @daveknow

    @daveknow

    6 жыл бұрын

    You mean to say she experiences time serially, not linearly. Linearly would be A to B to C ... Consecutively could be A to D to F to B to L.

  • @ChairmanAnime

    @ChairmanAnime

    6 жыл бұрын

    daveknow Yeah that's the word! Serially.

  • @johnalexander651

    @johnalexander651

    6 жыл бұрын

    Exactly why Abbot is in a death process and not dead yet, as he is still living going through his own linear time despite knowing he already died.

  • @pato6738
    @pato67384 жыл бұрын

    1:50 dunno what is funnier, the joke or the fact he laughed at the end of it

  • @beergnomedc
    @beergnomedc5 жыл бұрын

    Oh my god, his laugh at his own child support payment joke lol

  • @theghostnextdoor4948
    @theghostnextdoor49486 жыл бұрын

    10:28 Greenland is a territory of Denmark, though....

  • @The_OPN

    @The_OPN

    6 жыл бұрын

    *DING*

  • @MatiasAuramo
    @MatiasAuramo6 жыл бұрын

    14:21 NO! She started understanding the language, which makes her see into the future (explained in the movie), and seeing the book made her understand what happened. EDIT: That is also the most important and a GENIUS thing about the movie's structure. As she begins understanding the language, she (and the audience) sees flashes from her future. But in the beginning of the movie we (the audience, but not her) can see events from the future, mixing the linear time of the story and the movie, which makes it a lot more interesting and mind blowing.

  • @rooksdoubleohseven9919

    @rooksdoubleohseven9919

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not that I'll likely watch it again to confirm your ideas, but what part parts of the movie early on are from the future?

  • @shaunmadison99

    @shaunmadison99

    6 жыл бұрын

    Matias Auramo indeed, their language begins and starts at the same point, so the story is told the same. Good job

  • @danhair

    @danhair

    6 жыл бұрын

    Explain to me why she couldn't save her daughter? Why couldn't she do the same thing she did with the general? It's the same scenario: she does the thing and saves the daughter and 10-20 years in the future she hears from the news the cure for that disease was discovered and her past self could have seen that and saved her daughter. Same scenario, why is one possible and the other not? You might say: well this and that but it's just as possible as a world leader who you've never meet before walks up to you, gives you his phone number and tells you something he heard from you 10-20 years ago, that somehow you don't already know.... That is the problem with the movie, too many "Why?" questions.

  • @MatiasAuramo

    @MatiasAuramo

    6 жыл бұрын

    The very beginning of the movie where she's with the child and all the flashes throughout the movie. At first the audience obviously doesn't know yet that those scenes are from her future, so we'll easily think that they are flashbacks because they are used in a very similar way (the editor of the movie also mentioned about this in an interview. Trust me, I wrote my bachelor's thesis about this subject so I did my research and analyzed the movies, Arrival was one of them).

  • @dragonwarrior191

    @dragonwarrior191

    6 жыл бұрын

    +dan henry maybe she dies before a cure is discovered and therefore doesn't know the cure?

  • @lukeharbolt7681
    @lukeharbolt76812 жыл бұрын

    I will forever be your biggest fan just for the Ghost Dog reference alone. lol

  • @harmstrongg
    @harmstrongg3 жыл бұрын

    This is in my all-time top 3. No movie is without sin, but this film is a god damned masterpiece.

  • @kiara278
    @kiara2786 жыл бұрын

    The ending made me rethink my existence and zone out for like 30 min

  • @gabeel486

    @gabeel486

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kiara facts lol

  • @thisiskindacrap13

    @thisiskindacrap13

    6 жыл бұрын

    OMFG ME TOO

  • @funreal

    @funreal

    6 жыл бұрын

    you must be 16 then

  • @insertedgyemobandnameshere813

    @insertedgyemobandnameshere813

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kiara omfg same

  • @canadiangamer3755

    @canadiangamer3755

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kiara this whole movie made me zone out and rethink my life choices

  • @martincolomaarmas8496
    @martincolomaarmas84966 жыл бұрын

    I'm going to go ahead and say the soundtrack of this movie deserved taking at least 3 sins off.

  • @iliaslerias7374

    @iliaslerias7374

    6 жыл бұрын

    And I'm going to go ahead, give you a thumbs up and wholeheartedly agree with you!

  • @1crookedvulture

    @1crookedvulture

    6 жыл бұрын

    You said it!!!!!! Best soundtrack in years!!!!!

  • @CheapandCertifiedMemes_YT

    @CheapandCertifiedMemes_YT

    6 жыл бұрын

    True, especially on the nature of daylight.

  • @martincolomaarmas8496

    @martincolomaarmas8496

    6 жыл бұрын

    Man, on the nature of daylight can make me cry like a baby anytime.

  • @paulsoldner9739

    @paulsoldner9739

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna go ahead and downvote you all. Silence interrupted by alien farts is not a soundtrack

  • @Rybo-Senpai
    @Rybo-Senpai5 жыл бұрын

    lets be honest, you'd sin them for the instant reveal of the alien ship if they had done that

  • @alitriple6ix384
    @alitriple6ix3842 жыл бұрын

    4:18 surprised he didn’t give a sin for the fact that he said “we take off in ten” as if he had the option of just leaving her behind because she needed ten extra minutes

  • @nautilusshell6092
    @nautilusshell60926 жыл бұрын

    Mate, Greenland is part of Denmark. Its independent to a certain extent And Denmark controls Geenland's foreign policy, your sin, not the movie's.

  • @drumsandroses22

    @drumsandroses22

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ding*

  • @CaseyMiddlecoff

    @CaseyMiddlecoff

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ding* Ding*

  • @keithjohnson3534

    @keithjohnson3534

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yea, it’s like Greenland is to Denmark as Puerto Rico is to the US.

  • @Transilvanian90

    @Transilvanian90

    6 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! Also, even if Greenland became fully independent tomorrow, it has 55 000 inhabitants. They'd probably get some outside help for things like translating alien languages, and since they'd still have a cultural / linguistic relationship with Denmark, Denmark would still be where their translators would be.

  • @prakashmcamca

    @prakashmcamca

    6 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/YmRotZlyeq7cd6Q.html

  • @shironasama0445
    @shironasama04456 жыл бұрын

    Sin 59: Denmark owns Greenland

  • @lucasfigueiredo9501

    @lucasfigueiredo9501

    6 жыл бұрын

    dialga reshiram exactly

  • @AvB.83
    @AvB.834 жыл бұрын

    Really, really loved the movie. A fascinating take on time and language. I still don't really get why Louise is apparently a lot better at looking into the future than at remembering her own past if what she used to think was the beginning of Hannah's story clearly isn't and she knew it wasn't well before it began.

  • @jenniferbrown7539
    @jenniferbrown75394 жыл бұрын

    No lie, the line Ian gave her at the end made me tear up. Cheesy you say? How many Men have ever used something so cute. lol

  • @saeedm6671

    @saeedm6671

    4 жыл бұрын

    the comment section helped me meet you Jennifer

  • @jenniferbrown7539

    @jenniferbrown7539

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@saeedm6671 hahahaha . Priceless

  • @sophieward7225
    @sophieward72256 жыл бұрын

    10:28 Greenland is kinda-sorta ruled by Denmark, which is why the map shows the landing in Greenland, but the screen labels the government as Denmark.

  • @KingKrossKTK

    @KingKrossKTK

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greenland and Faroe Islands are part of The Kingdom of Denmark.

  • @KingKrossKTK

    @KingKrossKTK

    6 жыл бұрын

    they are Sovereign states

  • @daemoe158

    @daemoe158

    6 жыл бұрын

    HAHAHA! They even refer to both countries!

  • @Saruman38

    @Saruman38

    6 жыл бұрын

    They label themselves as consituent countries within the Kingdom of Denmark, similar to how Scotland and such are considered countries withint the UK, but as far as international law is concerned, they are still regarded as being under Danish sovereignty.

  • @nottomcruise6474

    @nottomcruise6474

    6 жыл бұрын

    I live in Denmark and Greenland is a part of DK

  • @hannesfriedrichs
    @hannesfriedrichs6 жыл бұрын

    Greenland is autonomous but is also a part of the Kingdom of Denmark.. I guess that's why they're calling the shots.

  • @hannahgaia2585
    @hannahgaia25854 жыл бұрын

    The weird conversation in thee beginning with the professor and asking him for the meaning of whatever word is a code... The two of them have specific answers to give.

  • @pestbarn
    @pestbarn4 жыл бұрын

    You missed sinning the dumbest conversation in the entire movie: - "Language is the cornerstone of society" - "No, science is the cornerstone of society" Yeah sure, but you know god damn well you wouldn't have science if we didn't have language first. But I guess they had to throw the "Hawkeye is a science buff" thing in our faces.

  • @jasong7459

    @jasong7459

    4 жыл бұрын

    yea. They probably wrote that line thru gritted teeth. Contradicts most of the movies claims to language as fundamental to our way of thought.

  • @cherchehacknostale

    @cherchehacknostale

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maths, physics, biology, equations don't need translation. It is a language itself

  • @paramitch

    @paramitch

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, Renner's character was right. Pure science transcends language. See also mathematics, physics, astronomy, etc., which can be shared regardless of language and with instant understanding. It's also a core point of Carl Sagan's "Contact." That doesn't mean language is unimportant. But language is by its very nature divisive and localized. Science and mathematics transcend that. So I really don't think the point was, "Oh hey, let's give the guy who played Hawkeye a moment." It was earned and important to his character.

  • @forgottenfamily
    @forgottenfamily6 жыл бұрын

    You missed the point of the linearity of time - her mind has exited the linearity so she experiences things in the order her mind goes even though everyone around her experiences her in a relatively normal linearity of time. Which is a mind boggling and bizarre concept but still consistent with the logic of the movie

  • @penzin680

    @penzin680

    6 жыл бұрын

    Patrick Jensen it came out last year and it's one of the most intelligent movies i've ever watched

  • @scottslotterbeck3796

    @scottslotterbeck3796

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's challenging, and it's a surprise something that is not MCU got made I hate Hollywood.

  • @Waldohasaskit210
    @Waldohasaskit2106 жыл бұрын

    You know its a good movie if most the sins all turn out to be jokes, nitpicks or compliments disguised as sins

  • @jessarose2288

    @jessarose2288

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol...right! I was like...umm...these aren't "mistakes" in my eyes it is seriously ridiculously petty nit picking about set design and shit...dumb. This movie was PHENOMENAL. Point-Blank-Period... Frankly, I agree with you. The things they've decided to nit pick are so DUMB it only proves how extraordinary this movie truly is.

  • @AFarmerCalledChicken

    @AFarmerCalledChicken

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jess Feldmann I, personally, found it very boring. Though that could be because I don't really like alien invasion movies (other than Attack from Mars and Aliens)

  • @renes7280

    @renes7280

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cinemasins usually writes a short 1-2 sentence paragraph detailing how they actually felt about the movie in their description. In this one they say it‘s easily one of the best movies of 2016 and their whole team loved it. That‘s a compliment for ya lol. I‘ve only seen it once and that was yesterday but it is already easily one of my favorite movies of all times and definitely my favorite science fiction movie, even trumping Star Wars. Absolute beauty of a movie

  • @JustKelso1993

    @JustKelso1993

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jessarose2288 You need to not take this channel so seriously perhaps.

  • @Weird.Dreams

    @Weird.Dreams

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@renes7280 You have low standards.

  • @buckyV
    @buckyV5 жыл бұрын

    This was a genuinely good EWW video, with no excessive nit-picking. I could tell y’all really enjoyed this movie. 10/10. 5 stars

  • @KaienShirayuki
    @KaienShirayuki5 жыл бұрын

    I find most those sins pretty funny, as much as accurate~ I love "The Arrival", and remains in my top list of all time. Remember guys, its a satire channel, not a serious critique

  • @elliewellie_YouTube
    @elliewellie_YouTube6 жыл бұрын

    1:52 I heard you laugh at your own joke, damnit

  • @undeadgamer8812

    @undeadgamer8812

    6 жыл бұрын

    CinemaSins wait a minute...

  • @randomfools808

    @randomfools808

    6 жыл бұрын

    It was a great joke though

  • @KevinDiaz-fi3si

    @KevinDiaz-fi3si

    6 жыл бұрын

    I am dying 🤣🤣

  • @pangurechyx3010
    @pangurechyx30106 жыл бұрын

    I'm assuming someone has already said this but Greenland is a territory of Denmark and I can't believe you didn't look that up, it suits your character more. I'd like to remove a sin and then one more for the movie actually being extra accurate.

  • @Grafight23

    @Grafight23

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's not a "territory" it's an Autonomous Constituent Country of the Kingdom of Denmark. That means they have their own government, police, control over their borders, law, etc. They chose to leave the EEC while Denmark remained, so even though historically and culturally are considered part of the Kingdom, politically and economically they are very much their own nation.

  • @PickAShoe1

    @PickAShoe1

    6 жыл бұрын

    You do not hold that power of removing sins.

  • @rincinerate3984

    @rincinerate3984

    6 жыл бұрын

    They never said it wasn't. They're asking why Denmark is speaking for Greenland. It's like if the film said Great Britain or the United Kingdom was speaking for Scotland, Northern Ireland, or the Virgin Islands. Greenland is a semi-autonomous kingdom which can speak for itself, even though it's a protectorate of Denmark. We can recognise it has its own agency.

  • @adudenamedfelix.182

    @adudenamedfelix.182

    6 жыл бұрын

    Stating something that you know has been stated cliche. At least you bothered to acknowledge the fact that you weren't the first person to state it. It still does not excuse you. Ding!

  • @FLdancer00

    @FLdancer00

    5 жыл бұрын

    "I'm assuming someone has already said this. . ." says the comment right above the 37 other comments about Denmark.

  • @laurasomebody
    @laurasomebody5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome Kids in the Hall audio clip at the end 🤣😆 "I'm crushing your head" 😂

  • @VSci_
    @VSci_5 жыл бұрын

    Living in a nonlinear timeline means that Event B may be experienced before Event A while in a linear timeline Event A is a prerequisite for the occurrence of Event B. However, it also means that the timeline may branch out in complex ways with multiple past leading to different presents and futures. Also, the observer is able to experience multiple points on the timeline simultaneously. The subject as presented in the movie is to retain a primary existence in the present but able to experience forward and backward in the timeline in a limited way. This makes sense for a being with a finite mind. You could hypothesize that a being with near infinite mental faculties could forego an existence characterized by experiencing single discrete moments in the timeline in favor of an existence that is spread uniformly across time in a state of simultaneity. This is assuming the language is unconstrained and allows for this to occur... How this language remains consistent with the laws of physics--particularly causality--is the real question.

  • @ShadowReapers23
    @ShadowReapers236 жыл бұрын

    I don't really agree with the sin at 13:33, the whole point of Louise and Ian's job was to figure out a way to communicate with the aliens, as to get the real reason they arrived in the first place; hence the argument for teaching them kindergarten words. If Louise had managed to communicate enough to start understanding their language, I think it would be safe to assume she had managed to teach them enough to understand ours as well. Although, since we find out the Heptapods don't see time as linear, it would probably be safe to also assume that the aliens did in fact know english (and all other languages) from the very beginning. However it seems as though that would've made it too easy for us. I think the idea was that the Heptapods wanted us to actually LEARN the language, not just be given it. And of course to inevitably work together to finish learning the language. After all, they needed humanity as a whole to help save them in the future, not divided as they were.

  • @liteoner

    @liteoner

    6 жыл бұрын

    ShadowReapers23 Yes. They probably knew English from the very beginning, but they needed Louise to learn the heptapod language to be able unlock time.

  • @TheAndipa

    @TheAndipa

    3 жыл бұрын

    the point was for humans(louise) to learn their language (knowing their language rewires the brain into seeing/thinking time like they do), they didn't want just to communicate with humans. when you learn a second language, most teachers don't speak the language you already know, they speak in the new language even though you don't know a word of it. After learning a couple of languages besides my mother tongue, I can totally understand the concept that a new language rewires your brain.

  • @nateroseman

    @nateroseman

    3 жыл бұрын

    When you really think about it, they already knew that humans would learn the language, as in their minds, they already had. which is also why they knew our language because they had already been taught it

  • @tomikun8057

    @tomikun8057

    Жыл бұрын

    Even if time is not linear for them we can see that they can only process snippets of it, and if you did not do it in the past then you would not have it's effects in future See the China president scene

  • @doom453
    @doom4536 жыл бұрын

    That scene where they first went into the spaceship and met the aliens gave me goosebumps and was sooo good.

  • @OutSideTheBoxFormat

    @OutSideTheBoxFormat

    6 жыл бұрын

    Didn't you realize you were watching a movie and it was part of the script? I don't understand how people get wrapped up in fictional work.

  • @miguelorozco7208

    @miguelorozco7208

    6 жыл бұрын

    Air Em Out what a shame u can't enjoy stuff like that .-.

  • @doom453

    @doom453

    6 жыл бұрын

    Air Em Out Yes of course I was aware I was watching a movie, but I got so immersed into it I felt like I was there too alongside the characters. I think it depends on how invested you are in the characters/movie. Of course if you are half heartedly watching it you won't get wrapped up, but if you actually are enjoying the movie and just focusing on it, the film becomes enthralling.

  • @madydaby
    @madydaby5 жыл бұрын

    Max Richter's The sound of daylight is such a perfect piece for the movie

  • @yet_another_user_
    @yet_another_user_5 жыл бұрын

    omfg I died when I heard the "ack ack"

  • @muxammilshaikh

    @muxammilshaikh

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hehe.. 😬🙌🙄

  • @thesundayghost8625
    @thesundayghost86256 жыл бұрын

    1:50 I love how he giggled while he read that😂😂😂

  • @Raxilla

    @Raxilla

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oculus 89 i only just got the throw away joke. Haha

  • @Nozerone

    @Nozerone

    6 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how many times he had to redo that line before he could do even that.

  • @MelodicQuest

    @MelodicQuest

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's like he felt so proud of himself

  • @TheWrytersBlock

    @TheWrytersBlock

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was watching this on my streamer but hopped on my laptop JUST to comment on that line. The 12-year-old boy inside this 45-year-old woman is still tickled by "probably why he has so many child support payments".

  • @CaseyMiddlecoff

    @CaseyMiddlecoff

    6 жыл бұрын

    "12-year-old boy inside this 45-year-old woman"....something isn't adding up here.

  • @Icehawk_9
    @Icehawk_96 жыл бұрын

    The reveal was only worth one sin off? That bombshell was easily worth 5.

  • @blike22

    @blike22

    6 жыл бұрын

    He didn't sin the obvious reveal? Damn.

  • @ksiyaskid

    @ksiyaskid

    6 жыл бұрын

    blike22 bullshit it was obvious.

  • @Ziveron

    @Ziveron

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oh, good. Someone else that saw it coming.

  • @meta02

    @meta02

    6 жыл бұрын

    blike22 obvious? So you saw that and the first thought that came to you was "uh yeah that's obviously not her actual child and just a vision from the future". Bull shit

  • @tuckermatis1572

    @tuckermatis1572

    6 жыл бұрын

    What I'm sad he didn't sin is just how irrelevant that whole arc was. You could cut literally every flash to her daughter's life and the central plot would be entirely unchanged. Essentially, the whole thing was a waste of runtime.

  • @swankfrankdoob1471
    @swankfrankdoob14714 жыл бұрын

    the moment when he laughed at his own joke about child support payments, witty lol

  • @legendaryseph9406
    @legendaryseph94064 жыл бұрын

    This is great for remembering old movies that you liked but just forgot most of, and as you remember the scenes as they come up you remember the missing stuff in between all without watching the movie, I still mainly watch the videos for Jeremy though

  • @AnythingMachine
    @AnythingMachine6 жыл бұрын

    Greenland is the sovereign territory of Denmark

  • @JaredPiTrick

    @JaredPiTrick

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sammy Martin glad I am not the only one who caught that. It's a sad day when cinema sins blames a film for the sin of its own ignorance... Take that sin back, and hang it on your fridge please..

  • @stevechambers500
    @stevechambers5006 жыл бұрын

    "I'm human. What are you?" "" Dead 😂😂😂

  • @michaeloconnor6463

    @michaeloconnor6463

    6 жыл бұрын

    stevechambers500 its not martain unless they came from mars

  • @michaeloconnor6463

    @michaeloconnor6463

    6 жыл бұрын

    stevechambers500 damn unlucky

  • @Babydollsshow194

    @Babydollsshow194

    6 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/qZ1-3M2mc9S9YZM.html

  • @joshuavanderheart7045

    @joshuavanderheart7045

    6 жыл бұрын

    A moreron

  • @prakashmcamca

    @prakashmcamca

    6 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/YmRotZlyeq7cd6Q.html

  • @antlerz2967
    @antlerz29674 жыл бұрын

    I have to say this movie is a general masterpiece. The soundtrack is just great and not cliche. The plot is amazing and as a linguistic enthusiast talking about the non linear of their time and language is very interesting to me.

  • @HAL_9000__
    @HAL_9000__2 жыл бұрын

    16:48 Hilarious! The Cable Guy referencing Midnight Express’ nipple pressed up against the glass. 😂😂😂

  • @themysteriousgravityfalls
    @themysteriousgravityfalls6 жыл бұрын

    PLEASE DO THE TRUMAN SHOW!!!!!!!!

  • @noivern8869

    @noivern8869

    6 жыл бұрын

    an interesting story ,

  • @M.M.Y.B

    @M.M.Y.B

    6 жыл бұрын

    +

  • @DeniseF

    @DeniseF

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Mysterious Gravity Falls Person yes good film but I think he sinned it already.im not sure

  • @niamhcostello4766

    @niamhcostello4766

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes I would love That!!

  • @EverydayKiki

    @EverydayKiki

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yellow 13 bump. that would be awesome. i know they love that movie!

  • @LeJacqline
    @LeJacqline6 жыл бұрын

    A sin to your sin; while knowing a language doesn't automatically give you "all knowing knowledge", when you've spent a lot of time with the language you'll pick up on things about popular culture. Such as historically potent games like mahjong is to Chinese speakers. So as a linguistic polyglot I find it very very plausible that she would know how to say mahjong tile names and their context.

  • @rockyhorrorfreakshow5091

    @rockyhorrorfreakshow5091

    6 жыл бұрын

    LeJacqline yeah but once they learn that language, the septopods could give them all knowing knowledge.

  • @LeJacqline

    @LeJacqline

    6 жыл бұрын

    LAMB SAUCE LOCATED that has nothing to do with the point I was making. I was saying that their sin was wrong which was saying that she would NOT have all knowing knowledge about mahjong and I was explaining why she would know that while not having the all knowing knowledge.

  • @Grafight23

    @Grafight23

    6 жыл бұрын

    You are correct. I speak Spanish and I learned a lot of culture along with the language. It's a must to really understand it. On a side note, I know about mahjong and don't speak mandarin.

  • @crimsonsea3447

    @crimsonsea3447

    5 жыл бұрын

    中国有几百种麻将式,武汉麻将,有四川麻将,上海麻将,长沙麻将...中国麻将有多少种?估计没人说得清,甚至每个村庄的打法都不同. Even the most cultured Chinese won't claim themselves Mahjong experts...typical western thinking.

  • @williamlong144

    @williamlong144

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's the first time I've heard the word polyglot since college. Nice.

  • @mnm8818
    @mnm88185 жыл бұрын

    And all this time I still don't know how you would learn another language without any reference for it. The movie is partly about language and yet how exactly do the humans translate the alien language.

  • @sweetcherry2095

    @sweetcherry2095

    5 жыл бұрын

    i'd assume they translate the human language after teaching them our language they show human written and point at themselves, they write human in their language, and just apply that to everything

  • @AudioArcturia

    @AudioArcturia

    2 жыл бұрын

    Linguistics is fucking complicated, and the people that develop translation are pretty smart. Looking for repetition or patterns correlated with "things" helps. The three minutes monologue probably glosses over that for the sake of runtime

  • @mnm8818

    @mnm8818

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AudioArcturia yeah I guess it's like learning Arabic or Chinese as an Englishmen in the 10th century would be mind boggling... for Discovery channel to explain haha I was expecting the aliens of Arrival to write as emotions or story format through time-ey time thing or individual experience so literally there's no alphabet or every squid ink circle is unique. Anywayzzz

  • @revolvency
    @revolvency4 жыл бұрын

    The premise of this movie is just "you gain another perspective when learns a new language", but this time the language is alien coffee stain, and the new perspective is time traveling. I just love this movie

  • @brando3342

    @brando3342

    3 жыл бұрын

    Technically it isn't "time travel" because they don't really "travel". Also the cinemasins narrator incorrectly states that the future is "essentially set in stone" when one of the main points is that Louise freely chooses to go along with the life she saw coming, regardless of the negatives. This is a great description of the static theory of time. That is where the past, the present and the future are all equally real at all times. We are just moving through the timeline. So, all times in Louise's life were real at all times, post meeting the aliens. That's why she seemed to experience her present and her future at the same time and has memories of future events as her present self. Anyway, just wanted to say that because I just finished reading a book all about time haha

  • @megafrost9960
    @megafrost99606 жыл бұрын

    I still love this movie so much! The twist threw me off completely. This and Interstellar are the types of sci-fi dramas I live to see!! Arrival was one of my favorite movies of the year!

  • @NetConsole

    @NetConsole

    6 жыл бұрын

    The reason the twist throws you off is because the movie cheats. Why doesn't Amy Adams look even a year older in the scenes with her daughter which takes place at least 15 years later? People change a lot between 40 and 55.

  • @smartwater598

    @smartwater598

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mega Frost Interstellar is way better

  • @UnofficiallyZero

    @UnofficiallyZero

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mega Frost both are shit

  • @mwthecool

    @mwthecool

    6 жыл бұрын

    I wish I knew about more, similar, movies!

  • @Cosmlc1022

    @Cosmlc1022

    6 жыл бұрын

    There are a few good independent ones. Another Earth is the only one that comes to mind at the moment.

  • @yodibar5634
    @yodibar56346 жыл бұрын

    You know Greenland belongs to Denmark don’t you so actually it makes total factual sense for Greenland to be represented by Denmark.

  • @Guircs1

    @Guircs1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yodibar *sigh* American education...

  • @AaronKingvideo

    @AaronKingvideo

    6 жыл бұрын

    100%

  • @brianc4056

    @brianc4056

    6 жыл бұрын

    lmao Greenlands Sovereign state is the Kingdom of Denmark. So thats their international representative. Like England is represented by the UK. Has nothing to do with education. Real ignorance is you saying that.

  • @Guircs1

    @Guircs1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Brian of America Um... So you basically agreed with us while trying to disagree? +sigh+ American education... [2]

  • @ghoulpope1975

    @ghoulpope1975

    6 жыл бұрын

    Guilherme Souza lol you guys both seem salty

  • @aryanchaturvedi4687
    @aryanchaturvedi46874 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't even finish the "pull-out" joke without a chuckle. CinemaSins sin counter: infinite

  • @RoarTheRapper
    @RoarTheRapper6 жыл бұрын

    The fact that this film was written so well was actually really unsettling. I’m not used to science-fiction films of that higher caliber that weren’t released after 1990.

  • @DarthOmix
    @DarthOmix6 жыл бұрын

    I'd just like to appreciate the fact that the child support payment sin sounds like it has a slight chuckle from Jeremy in it.

  • @benjamin_burke
    @benjamin_burke6 жыл бұрын

    Biggest sin: there is no way a linguist trained in several languages would teach English to aliens. If they were going to use a language with a phonetic alphabet, they would use Esperanto. But, more likely, the aliens (which seem to communicate with language with no sound attached) would be more responsive to character system, like Japanese Kanji.

  • @31webseries

    @31webseries

    6 жыл бұрын

    There's probably no way the US military would let her use any other language. No judgments, from their pov it'd be the way to go.

  • @HenriqueErzinger

    @HenriqueErzinger

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, there's the military thing, but also english is, from the major languages, one of the easiest, with the most straight forward grammar and smallest vocabulary there is. Kanji is hard even for native speakers.

  • @StarWarsomania

    @StarWarsomania

    6 жыл бұрын

    ...why on Earth would you ever teach them a language that literally nobody uses? That would be so stupid, it would the the opposite of genius.

  • @markos9531

    @markos9531

    6 жыл бұрын

    StarWarsomania Esperanto is simplest language that exists and mixes the sounds, letters & alphabets of all Latin languages like Spanish, French, Italian, English etc... Which means if the aliens learned Esperanto they could learn English, Spanish etc.. easier. Also, these are top minded scientists so they should ne able to learn basic phrases right? One sin for you! *Ding!*

  • @tf2965

    @tf2965

    6 жыл бұрын

    The u.s. military is open to using other languages for communication. for instance, code talkers were natives who would use their language so it couldn't be decrypted by the enemy.

  • @HattieDame
    @HattieDame5 жыл бұрын

    The "Mars Attacks" audio clip had me laughing so hard I cried. It just really got me in the funny bone.

  • @simoneangeliquemaloney3990

    @simoneangeliquemaloney3990

    3 жыл бұрын

    You also watched Mars Attack... Awesome.

  • @Karl_Drogo55

    @Karl_Drogo55

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@simoneangeliquemaloney3990 Great movie

  • @simoneangeliquemaloney3990

    @simoneangeliquemaloney3990

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Karl_Drogo55 yeah

  • @michelleloblaw4271
    @michelleloblaw42712 жыл бұрын

    the line "they arrive" was from the book so technically the sin goes to Story of Your Life

  • @Butt_Slayer
    @Butt_Slayer6 жыл бұрын

    Cinema Sins Greenland fail.

  • @gideonreszka9486

    @gideonreszka9486

    6 жыл бұрын

    me227 ding

  • @GREY666KILLER
    @GREY666KILLER6 жыл бұрын

    Greenland is part of Denmark. *ding*

  • @cindyrivas6491

    @cindyrivas6491

    6 жыл бұрын

    GREY666KILLER YES someone else that was bothered by that sin

  • @courtneybilyeu8164
    @courtneybilyeu81645 жыл бұрын

    I haven’t cried this hard at an “alien movie” since ET. And I was like 3 when that came out. This is a sad sad movie

  • @stmsin
    @stmsin2 жыл бұрын

    "I can translate the aliens." CIA guy: "Don't care!" Seems unrealistic

  • @pasteldreams5413
    @pasteldreams54136 жыл бұрын

    One of the things that made me like this movie so much was its use of "The Nature of Daylight" by Max Richter. That song gives me chills to this day.

  • @postumus.

    @postumus.

    6 жыл бұрын

    I love his music!

  • @Mylesperhour20

    @Mylesperhour20

    5 жыл бұрын

    i bought an entire piano just to learn that song

  • @caffeineadvocate
    @caffeineadvocate6 жыл бұрын

    Three comments: -You said, "Geez Louise" -I liked your Subway joke -Oh... Billy... Hahahahahaha

  • @tf2965

    @tf2965

    6 жыл бұрын

    i didn't get the subway joke. can you explain

  • @hanslarda9677

    @hanslarda9677

    6 жыл бұрын

    it looks like a subway sandwich

  • @Nightwolf323

    @Nightwolf323

    6 жыл бұрын

    that's 2?

  • @caffeineadvocate

    @caffeineadvocate

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nightwolf - I consider laughter a comment?

  • @Nightwolf323

    @Nightwolf323

    6 жыл бұрын

    +caffeineadvocate I consider laughter a response. But then again, there are only 3 kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.

  • @riloh58
    @riloh584 жыл бұрын

    I need to watch this movie again. It is one of the best I’ve seen for a long time. Loved it.

  • @jonchippure52
    @jonchippure523 жыл бұрын

    Disagree with every sin except for the last one. Funny end clips tho!

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