"...is the first 'weapon' drawn in a conflict..." >> "..Offer weapon"... Awesome.

@youngwmhs5229

7 жыл бұрын

Horacio Iaboni omg....👀👀👀👌

@youngwmhs5229

7 жыл бұрын

Horacio Iaboni you comment should have way more likes but I bet ppl don't even understand the point your making. took me a minute as well... buy when I did wow. mind blowing

@Nortarachanges

7 жыл бұрын

Horacio Iaboni Ha, nice! I didn't even notice that! I was too busy looking for hints about getting cows with war vs. trade ^_^

@riparianlife97701

7 жыл бұрын

The moment I heard that line, I knew it was a reference to Louise's book. It killed me that even she didn't see the connection. From the moment the line was read to her on the helicopter, it was so obviously a Chechov's gun line.

@gabe_liu9095

7 жыл бұрын

i knew it, that's how Louise crack the meaning of weapon

One of the rare movies where strangers want to talk about it when leaving the theather

@PerEdlund

7 жыл бұрын

Funny you should say this, I actually did exactly that just a few hours ago... also this is my first youtube comment :)

@clavius8182

7 жыл бұрын

awww, you didn't understand the film? such a shame.

@alexanderdushkuii7697

7 жыл бұрын

I thought the film was horribly self aggrandizing. It thought it was 2001 A Space Odyssey and that it was a deep and intellectual treatment of big ideas. In reality it dealt so superficially and so imprecisely with those ideas and was so self complementary about that same treatment that I just couldn't stomach it. It was "smart" scifi for the masses where the only way the main characters could be construed as smart was by surrounding them with caricatures of stupidity that they could refute.

@rgawer2

7 жыл бұрын

have we seen the same kino?

@aretorta

7 жыл бұрын

The thing is: it's not really about the sci-fi or linguistics, it's more about humanity. I guess, the ideas it dealt superficially were not the main theme. It's a comtemplative kind of movie, I like it, but I get your point.

I rewatched Arrival last night and this was the first time I noticed that Louise's line from her dissertation as quoted by Ian here at 4:20 reveals a huge part of the plot: "Language (..) is the first weapon drawn in conflict". At the film's climax, we realize they refer to their language when the aliens say 'weapon'. The key to the film's plot was hidden in plain sight, in the first act of the movie. What an elegant approach to screenwriting.

@dannyvista6541

2 жыл бұрын

wow didnt realize this after watching it 12 plus times

@rikta8192

Жыл бұрын

@@dannyvista6541 Gotta think non-linearly lol

@a.t.c.3862

Жыл бұрын

A brilliant comment. Thank you.

@elliegonzalez2300

4 ай бұрын

Woah! You’re so right

Did anybody else feel profoundly affected by the movie in a good way? I remember sitting in that movie theater and thinking how our brains construct our visions of the future in the same way it remembers our past. It is in a way, like we are pulling "memories that could be" into being. The movie does using "flashforwards" disguised as flashbacks and turns the whole story timeless. The firsts line she speaks really contains her whole experience.

@aneetp6465

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, that’s an amazing take

@andreagrazianodibenedetto1464

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds a lot like quantum physics, right? Like you're making things happen by expecting them to happen, simply put. Would you agree?

@Dear_Avel

2 жыл бұрын

Good take. Very Enlightening.

@q.parablesque5610

2 жыл бұрын

That's quantum mysticism, 21st century snake oil. Quantum mechanics has nothing to do or say about human consciousness. Some conmen misinterpreted the double slit experiment and repackaged Tony Robbins as a "new science".

@xmequex2381

2 жыл бұрын

what if our dreams are future thoughts, if it happens in the near future we think of it as deja vu

I don't understand why every movie critic somewhat overlooked the brilliant soundtrack of this movie. It fueled the visual and made the experience of watching this movie so soothing, I felt like the whole time I was in a light meditation state. Edit: RIP Johan Johansson. Your music gave millions something beyond this world. Your life was worth it.

@Muthaphuckka

5 жыл бұрын

agreed

@Maxime_K-G

5 жыл бұрын

Do movie critics ever make an accurate review for a movie?

@agustinpereira3128

5 жыл бұрын

I agree, max richters on the nature of daylights (the theme playing in this video) is one of my favorite pieces of all time

@Sakarraterrum

5 жыл бұрын

The main theme is for originaly for another film call Gathaca

@llamaliammm

5 жыл бұрын

Esp that violin one. The supposedly soothing tone somehow made it so emotional and powerful in that epiphany scene of realization

Arrival is one of the few movies i wish i could forget over and over so i can watch it for the first time again over and over. the incredible feeling of watching it the first time, of realizing she is remembering her future like that, it was incredible. one of my fav movies ever.

@WannabeWriter100

6 жыл бұрын

Same. When she said, "Who is this child?" my jaw hit the floor. They just did it so damn well.

@GeoffPeterson33

6 жыл бұрын

VERY well said 👏

@numericalhorror185

6 жыл бұрын

Just like Louise you get to experience it again knowing everything that’s about to happen

@karmasauce2323

6 жыл бұрын

This is how I feel about Incendies (another Denis Villeneuve film). First viewing packs a punch that I wish I could experience again for the first time. However, that feeling of the initial impact has stayed with me years later. Polytechnique is another one of his films that has stayed with me for years. It is a more linear story with no twist (it is based on the real life massacre at Polytechnique school in 1989) but the residual effects will stay with me for the rest of my life. Denis Villeneuve knows how to tell a powerful story in a powerful way.

@MFM230

6 жыл бұрын

Not for me. My experience of seeing Arrival for the first time can be summed up by Louise's oft repeated statement, "I don't understand." And following Bernard Lonergan's Transcendental methodology (experience, then understanding, then judgment of value, and finally decision), understanding is a vital step in this process. By the third time I saw the movie, I was in tears for much of it. By the way, I was very impressed with the author of this video. Excellent analysis. My complements!

"A true thing poorly expressed is a lie" - Yep, that perfectly explains why I suck at conversations

@chrisantoniou4366

4 жыл бұрын

That sentence is nonsense. A "lie" is delberate, poor expression is not. A true thing poorly expressed may not be understood by the listener, may be misconstrued, and may no longer be "true". It is not however, a lie.

@VladDascaliuc

4 жыл бұрын

@@chrisantoniou4366 Don't even try it. It would seem that this channel is based on making vague, cool sounding points made so that the audience can interpret them in however neat way they prefer.

@paragjyotideka1246

2 жыл бұрын

That's a really bad statement and doesn't make sense. So don't worry, always stick to the truth, no matter how blunt it is.

@weirdguy4948

6 ай бұрын

Y’all straight up dogged the meaning of that quote, my good why take everything so literally

@gesudinazaret9259

26 күн бұрын

@@weirdguy4948they can’t get it right,they confuse how language isn’t just made up of logic and ignore the mystical experience that is “understanding “ ,I wish they had read Wittgenstein

One of my linguistic professors was the woman who worked on the language in this movie! I've got to say it's a super cool conlang imo.

@chrisantoniou4366

3 жыл бұрын

The thing which impressed me, being bi-lingual was the idea that the language used changes ones way of thinking and preception of reality. So true.

@jeff5881

3 жыл бұрын

Too bad it had nothing to do with the movie.

@chrisantoniou4366

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeff5881 Too bad you never understood it.

@ihtemad

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeff5881 I think there is a lot to do with the movie. The movie is all about language and communication, not necessarily the alien language only!

@sweatshopjesus

3 жыл бұрын

Somebody always knows someone who somethinged.

This movie floored me in a way that a lot of films fail to do. The cinematography, the acting, the score, the concept, execution, and overall filmmaking just proves to me that this is one of the best sci-fi films ever made. Denis is a genius. 10/10.

@MrMisanthrope_

7 жыл бұрын

King of Wakanda could there be a second since the reason of the aliens arrival was to teach the language of time to the humans so then when the day approach they could help them.

@MrMisanthrope_

7 жыл бұрын

King of Wakanda could we then see the event that causes the alien to seek the humans.

@PeterParker-oo5wq

7 жыл бұрын

strikethrough stop

@DonCS

7 жыл бұрын

King of Wakanda yet you love every marvel film with their forgettable score, same hero origin story and predictable plot. Hypocrisy

@Sgubby

7 жыл бұрын

And that same man is directing the next Blade Runner...

If you have not yet watched this film, *STOP WATCHING NOW. HUGE SPOILERS.* Go watch this masterpiece of a film. Experience it. Then come back and watch this.

@MrHidan30

7 жыл бұрын

Too late. :(

@HarryBalzak

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks. This is exactly why I checked the comments before watching. You saved me! 8^D

@thebeesknees1162

7 жыл бұрын

EmeraldEyeProductions I didn't really like it actually.

@ThatAsianGuy313

7 жыл бұрын

You da real MVP

@josephd.4615

7 жыл бұрын

it's too late u.u

Why isn't anyone giving credit to sci-fi author Ted Chiang for this stupendous masterpiece?

@ALucas73

4 жыл бұрын

Has he written anything else as good as this? I wanna read something else this good.

@dasmorbo3508

4 жыл бұрын

@@ALucas73 Does he need to? It doesn't take away any relevance, if you produce just one piece to culture that is relevant. Ted Chiang will be in my Hall-of-Fame forever for this. :)

@Kid_Ying

4 жыл бұрын

@@dasmorbo3508 I think he was asking for recommendations, not trying to disparage Chiang.

@dasmorbo3508

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kid_Ying Yeah, I got that. I tried to tell him, that he may try to be content with what he got instead of asking for MOAR. ;) Good work takes time and many writers lose quality if they start mass producing.

@stevesmith291

4 жыл бұрын

@@ALucas73 Ted Chiang is not at all guilty of "mass production." He has nothing at the novel length, but two collections of stories, "Stories of my Life and Others" from 2002 and "Exhalation" from 2019. He published his first story, "Tower of Babylon" in 1990, which earned the Nebula for best novella, and to this date he has published only 17 stories, which is a little more than one every other year or so. The first collection includes "Story of My Life," the tale adapted for "Arrival," which won the Nebula and Theodore Sturgeon awards for best novella. That collection is also available in a movie tie-in version.

Wow, I got emotional watching this because it brought back all the emotions I had in the movie and this coverage was only 7mins. This film can be interpreted so many ways, even from the nirvana perspective, once we realize the suffering of life, then we can find the beauty in the moments. One of my all times favourites this one.

@TheBelrick

3 жыл бұрын

One study i read proposed that one of the reasons why Japan lost WW2 was their language. We think using words. The Japanese lacked many words with nuances needed to think imaginatively among other things. It was an interesting idea.

@joaopaulopiva1656

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBelrick I had a German teacher who always said language is a reflex of how people think, how the brain works. So learning a new language is unlocking a new way for the brain to work. When I watched this movie for the first time, this teacher's speech came to my mind. Reading these comments now, again.

@vikalpverma9750

3 жыл бұрын

Truly a very emotional movie. I still remember 3 friends who kept for hours discussing on what happened and how. The music is one of the most beautiful movie music I have came across.

@TheBelrick

3 жыл бұрын

@@vikalpverma9750 Curious ; have any of your friends rewatched the movie since and did your views change? Oh and you are right, the music is excellent and probably half the movie. People under estimate the score's impact on a film IMHO. Take the film UP, i still dont like it mostly because the score depresses and annoys me.

@vikalpverma9750

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBelrick not sure about my friends but I have rewatched the movie many times. The score is just amazing, I go through the album quite often. It took me 2 re-watch to fully understand the movie.

I can still remember the reaction I had the moment Louise says "who is this child?" It's like when a magician fools you in a way you didn't see coming.

@differous01

5 жыл бұрын

It's as if some demon were saying: "This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more..." Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus?... Or how well disposed would you have to become to yourself and to life to crave nothing more fervently than this ultimate eternal confirmation and seal?" [Nietzsche's Eternal Recurrence - The Gay Science]

@liteoner

5 жыл бұрын

A magician tricking you in a way that you don't notice the magician, let alone the trick.

@DerrekLeigh

4 жыл бұрын

SAME

@brauljo

3 жыл бұрын

@DrTheKay okay boomer

@Teguh-zx6td

3 жыл бұрын

Yess

My main takeaway from the movie which was honestly pretty mind blowing and powerful to me while I was watching the ending unfold: We aren't so different from Louise. Although she can see the details of the tragedies of her future, without the details we still all know what's coming for us. Namely, Death. Pain and loss and heartache. Yet we choose to live our lives anyway. Despite knowing how it all ends, we still glean meaning from the living itself. I really liked this movie.

@kaleb749

5 жыл бұрын

k14pc great conclusion, I clearly haven’t thought hard enough about it

@whodatninja439

5 жыл бұрын

The message of this movie just makes me cry, it's so beautiful.

@tenkrenizacija4254

5 жыл бұрын

We're all the same because we can all grasp the obvious? Deep :D

@user-kj9st9vq3u

5 жыл бұрын

k14pc While watching this video I realized the strong similarities Arrival has to my other favorite film, Eternal Sunshine (I know, cue eyeroll). I love both films for the point you just made. It’s soothing and harrowingly inspiring to see soberingly relatable characters pursue these pleasures even while knowing the painful outcome. To me it calls into question my hard feelings, resentments, and heartache from past experiences and allows me (or commands me) to make peace with them and reflect on them with gratitude. I know of very few movies that can inspire that emotional process in me.

@Steelburgh

5 жыл бұрын

You never get a happy ending because there's always more show. Until there isn't.

The fact that she still chooses to live that life with Donnelly despite knowing their daughter will die and he will leave her makes me cry everytime. That and 'On the nature of daylight'.

@abstract5249

5 ай бұрын

Does she really have a choice though? She can see the future, she can see what she will do, but that doesn't mean she has free will. What she sees has already happened and will inevitably happen.

@TimH1989

5 ай бұрын

​​@@abstract5249 of course, but that still doesn't make the 'decision' easy. How hard it must be for her knowing how this will all play out. Then she accepts her/their fate.

@elongated_muskrat_is_my_name

3 ай бұрын

The book goes deeper into those questions. As do a lot of Chiang's short stories, from different angles.

Max Richter's _On the Nature of Daylight_ always tears my heart

@yensmith8452

3 жыл бұрын

same my eyes always instinctively water at the first note please

@violinsinthevoid4579

3 жыл бұрын

Check out Richter’s album “Infra” or “Songs from Before.” Amazing.

I loved how the ending of this movie is in fact hidden in plain sight in the very first opening sentences of the movie. "I though this was the beginning. Memory is a strange thing. We are bound by time. By its order."

@jerrygil1965

2 жыл бұрын

That was a beautiful foreshadow of the film

“Abbot is death process.” What a line, man!

@sofeakhan3397

5 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too. How it hit my heart

@Epiousios18

4 жыл бұрын

I love how it is Abbot and Costello, the two who popularized the "Who's on first, What's on second?" "Joke"

@dsmyify

4 жыл бұрын

Abbot knew the future.

@Mewshiix

4 жыл бұрын

what's even more sad is that Costello and Abbott knew that abbott would be losing his/her life in order the humans to help their race in 3000 years. Knowing that they will be going on a mission that will cost one of them their life made it even more perfect.

@dsmyify

4 жыл бұрын

@Alexander Supertramp ~ the fundamental question of the movie was, if you knew the future was filled with grief would you change it? Abbot clearly didn't want to change it.

Phew, for a minute there I thought you were saying Arrival was a bad movie.

@PCGGC

3 жыл бұрын

I found it boring and self-absorbed myself. Have never bothered watching it again and most people in the theater felt the same afterwards. Yes it had deep philosophical undertones, but I thought it was poor sci-fi and anticlimactic

@nathanchase1297

3 жыл бұрын

@@PCGGC I also did not care for the movie. I love Denis, I can see that this is a very well-made, well-edited movie with great set design, etc....it just didn't do it for me.

@JoshuaDay0550

3 жыл бұрын

@@PCGGC I felt the same and even tried watching it 4 more times just to make sure I didnt miss anything. Nope - got the same thing each time - disappointment. The whole movie is based around her choice to have a kid even though she knew the kid would die. Big woop.

@TheBelrick

3 жыл бұрын

It was a mediocre and pretentious film that excites only liberal minds. It's fatal flaw is the lack of entertainment value. The characters are flat, boring and rarely get to express themselves within the film. (and of course there is really no action in the film but pick one. characters or action) . All because the shock and dismay of the arrival over shadows EVERYTHING like the director had suicidal thoughts so must everyone within the film. But yes it was an EXCELLENT work of pretentious and boring moody cinema.

@JoshuaDay0550

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBelrick thats honestly probably the best way Ive heard this movie "reviewed".

Ahh that music gives me chills. I love Arrival so much. I lost my partner a few years ago and this film, featuring aliens and time weirdnesses, speaks to my grief better than pretty much any other film other than The Fountain. Annihilation is pretty good too. But this film is perfection. One of the strongest feelings I have about my partner (other than raw loss and pain, and being isolated in a world no one else understands) is the knowledge i would do it all again, even knowing how it ends, it is worth this awful pain to have known him and been close to him. And time works very differently once you have been through a loss like that. I have never seen grief explored through this lens, at least not with such extraordinary results 🖤

@todorivanov1909

2 жыл бұрын

I am very sorry for your loss. It is so great everyone can find meaning and even solace in a piece of art.

@sharonrubio1268

2 жыл бұрын

The fountain is another highlight for me in terms of visual psychological time weirdness grief and wonder. ♥️

@maggs131

2 жыл бұрын

That's a deep realization knowing the pain at the end but its dwarfed by the moments of love and joy enough to be willing enough to do it exactly the same way. I'm sorry for your loss but glad for the love you had. If I may make another suggestion, cloud atlas 😉💗

This movie was so outstanding - I don't understand why they didn't get ALL the Academy Awards, even the ones that wouldn't apply, such as best animated short and best use of a chainsaw.

@Darksabre1500

4 жыл бұрын

Retro Future best use of a chainsaw lol

@BJBee

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@addibro4284

3 жыл бұрын

this needs to be an academy award

@kandade4563

3 жыл бұрын

chainsaw?

I loved the movie. I loved the fact that for once there was a sci-fi move without constant explosions caused by the invariably imperialistic alien race.

@femmyfabrice9649

7 жыл бұрын

Hooga to me it makes sense that if an alien race has the technology to travel, most likely their intent will be indeed "imperialistic". look what European countries did in colonial times.

@TheHalcyonTwilight

7 жыл бұрын

Conversely, Imperialism was born because it allowed the wrestling of resources from other cultures, and then transported them back to the imperial capital. A species with unlimited access to the cosmos would have little reason to invade another inhabited planet when millions of uninhabited ones are teeming with the resources they want.

@Badjazy

7 жыл бұрын

+Femmy Fabrice I think there might be one small difference however. Europeans are humans and aliens are not.

@jimmydurmody2490

7 жыл бұрын

those are mostly not sci fi, there is huge difference between fiction inspired by science and fiction inspired by fantasy. Solaris is sci fi, transformers action adventure fantasy, Contact is sci fi, Star Wars is space fantasy.

Arrival, Interstellar and even the Martian, hold a special place in my heart because they feel like a celebration of science. I love movies that build amazing and effective stories out of real scientific principles and in interstellar and arrivals case, their handling of time and relativity is really out there but still grounded in real scientific theory and handled perfectly. I’d never even considered linguistics as a form of science before I watched this film but within minutes I was intrigued and I wanted to know more

@plica06

2 жыл бұрын

But Interstellar and The Martian don't deserve to be uttered in the same sentence as Arrival. I suppose you liked Passengers too!

@Gavin-mr1zs

Жыл бұрын

@@plica06 Interstellar is certainly on the level of arrival. I can explain why if you want but i'm not in the mood to right an essay rn

@Scroolewse

Жыл бұрын

"love transcends the dimensions of time and space" yeah really a celebration of science lmao

@rachelgerlach5101

Жыл бұрын

Three of the best almost-might-be-hard-sci-fi films of all time! (True hard sci-fi is nearly impossible to market in our current society) I highly recommend Robert Zemeckis and Carl Sagan's film Contact. Like the others, it takes a few creative liberties with the science, but also like the others, it is much more faithful to real scientific concepts and the true spirit of scientific exploration than all the fantasy-pretending-to-be-sci-fi films making up most of the box office these days. The climax makes me cry simply because of the sheer beauty of what the main character discovers about the universe. And I cry in a lot of other scenes too.😉

@kyarumomochi5146

Жыл бұрын

@@plica06 yes interstellar was a WHOLE OTHER masterpiece

Such a wonderful film. The realisation about her child is so profound for me. I had a death of someone I love and I would happily and willingly repeat meeting them again even knowing they would die. Anyway... Amazing film.

@mikehiebert6227

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry for your loss, and I'm glad you've found reconciliation in the fact afterwards Condolences, my friend.

@lynxaway

3 жыл бұрын

I second Mike. My condolences. I also wanted to add that this is one of the lovelier interactions I’ve seen on youtube, and I’m happy to have stumbled upon it.

@avedic

2 жыл бұрын

I remember the first time I watched this film..... Because less than a minute or two into it....................I was crying. And I rarely cry from movies. It honestly startled me. Yes, it's sad from the jump...but why? I couldn't even explain what it was. I'm not a parent. But somehow starting the movie off RIGHT AWAY with pure existential grief....hit me hard, when I least expected it. I knew from that moment on, after I'd collected myself, that this was going to be a special film. And I wasn't wrong about that. It's a masterpiece of modern science fiction. When I found out the director was making the Blade Runner sequel....I was thrilled. And he absolutely did not disappoint. That film is also brilliant and worthy of the source movie that inspired it.

@HaloDude321

2 жыл бұрын

I think if I knew how much time I had with someone, perhaps I would treasure each moment more. Maybe we should do that regardless, yes.

@jerrygil1965

2 жыл бұрын

My condolences💔

The better I understand what a good film is, the more afraid I am to make one.

@ryanmahon1

7 жыл бұрын

Arif Uddin dude if you ever need a hand making your movie lemme know

@ansbjork1

7 жыл бұрын

You know, Villeneuve Started in the 90's by making a movie per week in Course Europe-Asie (a race around the world where the participants needed to make a movie per week on their own), then he made 10 movies before Arrival. This is a craft you learn by practice, passion and time. So don't be affraid. Make one. Then an other and an other. Eventually, if you have the tallent for it, you will be making good movies.

@linkenski

7 жыл бұрын

Arif Uddin They also say film school is brutal. it's not easy. even bad movies are hard as fuck to make

@AlcatrazSeven

7 жыл бұрын

What ansbjork1 said. Don't be afraid, just start doing stuff. You can only get better, not worse.

@Lynx33PL

7 жыл бұрын

Good. That means you're onto something.

I went into this movie not really knowing what to expect but it turned out to be one of the most amazing films I’ve seen in the past 10 years.

@VereskVeil

5 жыл бұрын

Same here. I had no idea what to expect, and it was really important as I realised later

@HyperionCaelestis

5 жыл бұрын

So you've seen Interstellar 10 years ago? How so?

@meesalikeu

4 жыл бұрын

interstellar was terrible hollywoodish - arrival was much more thoughtful and oblique

@SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi

4 жыл бұрын

@@meesalikeu Both are great movies. Just don't hate for the sake of it.

@leo-yd5nu

4 жыл бұрын

meesalikeu dummy dumb

not sex, no nudity, no fistfights, gunfights...etc. And no villains too.............just beautiful languages

@saipanbrad

3 жыл бұрын

The villains were the Chinese who forced their propaganda into the film.

@arctic_haze

3 жыл бұрын

No villains? What about "that channel" which made the soldiers get Fox-itis like the Capitol insurgents.

@Matheuszappa

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing is perfect

@cartermariano

3 жыл бұрын

@@saipanbrad The American soldiers with their heads filled with Alex Jones' BS were the villains. The Chinese answered to the incorrect translation the same way the Americans were about to.

@bookeblade

2 жыл бұрын

@@cartermariano What do you mean?

"Between thought and expression Lies a lifetime" -Lou Reed

This is the kind of movie where you find yourself still talking about it and discussing its messages for days after you've seen it

@shenyongo

7 жыл бұрын

That's something that doesn't happen all that often

@JonPattyCake

7 жыл бұрын

to yourself;

@necron9944

7 жыл бұрын

its shit watch 2001 noob

@Crazelord91

7 жыл бұрын

Necron 99 lol I have, and while I see its brilliance, I did find it a little boring and dated

@necron9944

7 жыл бұрын

Crazelord91 and thats why your a noob, worlds full of em, its cool man.

You know, I won't lie, sometimes I don't know what you're talking about, but you sound sophisticated and its soothing to hear the deciphering of films/people.

@KRATELUS

7 жыл бұрын

Map lol

@jeremyclyde3006

7 жыл бұрын

lol! you are not alone!

@RubenKelevra

7 жыл бұрын

No issues here, but I can't follow one argument from him.

@joaoluizsn

7 жыл бұрын

It's because he makes a lot of pauses

@Arbitrary6104

7 жыл бұрын

As I watching this video not really understanding what's it about I thought about how ironic it is considering the first point he makes here ("a true thing, poorly expressed, is a lie).

I had to sit in the cinema for 10 minutes after the film finished as I was so blown away that I couldn’t drive safely. The music still moves me to tears. What a film.

@SumitPalTube

2 жыл бұрын

Although, I share your feeling of being profoundly affected, I could not have been sitting around for that long 😅 The cleaning, disinfection staff immediately moves in so that the hall can be ready for the next screening.

@arthurdavis4558

4 ай бұрын

no u didn't stfu

I absolutely agree. Many may disagree with me, but I truly feel this is one of the greatest films ever created. It impacted me personally, in a way that very few other media has.

@machiavellianos

3 жыл бұрын

How? Explain how?

@henkondemand

3 жыл бұрын

Same, the short story had the same effect for me. To me it shows something deep about life and love.

@CraftedByAidan

3 жыл бұрын

@@machiavellianos if he has to explain then...

@19ThreeLions97

3 жыл бұрын

@@machiavellianos Thats somehow a very emotionally touching movie, thanks to its themes and how the soundtrack works with it. And while its not some crazy difficult movie as some claim, the unlinear puzzle creates tension that makes it interesting all the way, so usual action is not needed Everything is complemented by good visuals too. Easily my #1 fav modern movie

@allanfifield8256

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely should be a Top 100 List. I would put it a top 25 list.

So that's it huh, this is some kinda arrival?

@marshallzane7735

7 жыл бұрын

nice meme Stop

@SaberRexZealot

7 жыл бұрын

nice meme You said it yourself bitch, we're the Arrival

@jumbabrother

7 жыл бұрын

nice meme This is one of my personal top 5 memes of all time. You get a like, CONGRADULATIONS. YOU DID IT.

@zacroper3577

7 жыл бұрын

So thats it huh we're some kind of Sicario?

@yan008

7 жыл бұрын

Finally, at last, she has truly becomoe Arrival™

When I saw this movie I knew that Bladerunner was in more than capable hands.

@tycho_m

7 жыл бұрын

not to mention Dune

@quietfolk3920

7 жыл бұрын

Has it been confirmed?

@soldierx33

7 жыл бұрын

Veronica Perez it has

@theparkourhobo

7 жыл бұрын

The question now is whether the _studio_ knows that too, or will they meddle with the film like they did with the first one?

@simplenough

7 жыл бұрын

Dune too, apparently

the cinematography of Arrival is stunning and perfectly structured. The music along with the image conveys both a sense of peace and chaos at the same time. And a sense of relief and the continuation of the normal life at the end. absolutely amazing film, highly recommend.

i just think it's great that this was an alien movie that wasn't about war and saving the world or creepy glassy eyed aliens. because i've always hated the idea that 'if aliens exist, they must be like us'. Where we assume that we are the pinnacle of evolution and that aliens must have faces, must talk in a language that we can translate, must have legs and bones and blood. That they must want war, or to take over humanity. But who's to say those things aren't the REASON humanity hasn't gotten to interstellar travel? If conflict and war is the reason we are trapped in an endless cycle of regression and progression. Let's be real. If someone found a way to space travel, who would trust humanity with it? We've already shown, countless times, that when we find other life, we believe them to be 'less than human', and therefore, are capable of endless cruelty towards them. So why do aliens have to be just as cruel as us, if they are so superior?

@ishabhattacharya2887

3 жыл бұрын

So beautiful. Thank you for writing this

@grawa4278

3 жыл бұрын

There is a simple reason aliens would want war: if they evolved from bacteria to sentient being to a civilization, they must have experienced both conflict and cooperation. It a objectively obligatory since it mathematical. Humanity has gotten further than everything on this earth and is constantly advancing toward nterstellar travel, so conflict might be slowing humanity's progress but not trapping it into a cycle of destruction. Also "superiority" doesn't mean "good", whatever those 2 words mean they are not synonymes.

@daniellelee7105

3 жыл бұрын

@@grawa4278 if they evolved and learnt from their own history enough that they got to another planet, surely they would know that war and cruelty is futile? im not arguing that they wouldn't have experienced history like we do, but if they are advanced, their scholars, philosophers and humanitarians must also advance with them. and i would argue, superior must mean good, because no smart person chooses violence and cruelty. if they are knowledgeable, if they have learnt and grown on their own planet, then they must have some measure of wisdom. if we say a territorial animals who murder its neighbors for more prey is natural but violent, who's to say the aliens wouldn't treat war the same way? a natural thing for humans, but ultimately, a savage and immature thing to do.

@grawa4278

3 жыл бұрын

@@daniellelee7105 That might not be false, but that is also very simplistic. I agree that war is savage and all but that doesn't mean that someone with more capabilities will not do it. Also if they have philosophers they might be less listened to than expansionist or idk. There is very little reason why an alien species would want to declare war to us but thinking that someone moree advanced is always benevolent is probably not true.

@daniellelee7105

3 жыл бұрын

@@grawa4278 yeah, but thinking that they will always have malicious intentions is also not always true. which was my point. the point is that we literally don't know how aliens are or could be. i was literally just saying that this version of aliens is way more interesting because it actually acknowledges that there could be things beyond our understanding. and it addresses the fact that our humane instinct to bomb the shit out of every possible threat is, in fact, very human and also very stupid.

Watching this movie was like the longest meditation of my life. It’s weirdly revealing and soothing...

@Omer698

6 жыл бұрын

pretentious nonsense

@turtleturbo1025

6 жыл бұрын

Jack The Skipper yep it was so boring and misleading a film hailed as intelligent but more insulting to it more than anything else

@yelu6

6 жыл бұрын

Jack The Skipper yes, ‘no sense’, for so many.

@tybushnell9819

6 жыл бұрын

turtleturbo1025 So you’re saying it’s a stupid film because you couldn’t fallow it? What makes it pretentious? I think you two might be missing the point of the film which isn’t very direct though and I feel you have to give it your own meaning so I can understand that if you don’t get the movie or didn’t enjoy it then you probably don’t give it its own meaning.

@turtleturbo1025

6 жыл бұрын

William Smith lol dude the movie is basic and misleading ! And why would aliens just help this broad who’s very selfish ! ? It’s easy to follow but I just thought it was a dumb movie. They should’ve just left it as a short story. Aliens used her to save the world and interpret the language. She was selfish for bringing a child into the world who didn’t have long to live. You mean to tell me these aliens couldn’t speak English or know what English letters are? Lol movie was dumb just shot beautifully that’s it

Honestly the first 5 minutes of this movie had me feeling like that one montage in UP. Then the rest of the movie had me like whoa. It's so crazy how a movie can be about aliens and emotions so masterfully intertwined. Like DAY-UM. When the plot twist hit me, I had to pause and just walk around to wrap my head around it. What an amazing movie.

@Luka1180

6 жыл бұрын

How is it crazy that a story about aliens can be emotionally strong? Science fiction writers have been doing that for centuries now, you just have yet to seek out the gems of books :) I will say that a lot of science fiction, especially hard science fiction, sacrifices character in favor of either plot or the scientific concepts they feature though, but not always.

@ImLupiNx

6 жыл бұрын

Purple Face This is a beautiful comment, man. Arrival is a peace of art in my opinion, took my breath away

@cf8415

5 жыл бұрын

You would like Ender’s Game. It’s so good!!

@meesalikeu

4 жыл бұрын

Purple Face your reply has me in gen y speak

@chrisantoniou4366

4 жыл бұрын

I think it works because the plot "hangs together" as well as telling a story about people we are invested in emotionally.

By the way, please remember to appreciate the source material of the movie, Ted Chiang's short story "Story of Your Life". Such a wonderful work, complicated and charming. The movie does a great job for sure, but the original text is something else.

After watching Arrival, I remember this novel I read two years ago, titled Slaughter House Five (or the Chldren’s Crusade) by Kurt Vonnegut. In the book, “Billy Pilgrim becomes unstuck in time” and in one of his time travels, he met an alien specie called Tralfalmadores who do not see time as linear like we do. For these species, the past, future and present happens all at once, like a panoramic view. Billy Pilgrim wondered why they won’t help humanity since they know what would happen in the future, but they countered him and said “what difference would it make?” When Renner asked Adams “do you dream about their language?” I sort of thought that she became unstuck in time too, and did not think that she’s able to “see” the future. I think she “experiences” the future and then wakes up in the moment where she is, like Billy Pilgrim.

@chrisantoniou4366

4 жыл бұрын

Have you watched the movie of Slaughterhouse 5?

@maureendullas2603

4 жыл бұрын

Chris Antoniou there is??? I haven't!!!

@chrisantoniou4366

4 жыл бұрын

@@maureendullas2603 Yes, released a while ago on DVD and more recently on Blu Ray. Great movie and made quite an impact on me when I saw it as a youngster at the movies. www.imdb.com/title/tt0069280/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

As great as the screenplay (and the source material) for Arrival is, it could've turned out horribly in the hands of a lesser director. Denis just understands what works in a scene and what doesn't. I love how long he drew out the scene where Amy Adams is about to see the aliens for the first time. It perfectly captured what that moment would probably feel like - the anticipation, the sense of wonder, but also the anxiety and the knot you'd get in your stomach. More than any other alien movie, that scene perfectly portrayed the feeling of "holy shit, I'm about to talk to a fucking alien."

@robertkeane2865

6 жыл бұрын

TJ Hastie agreed! I almost teared up at this scene simply because it is the kind of tension I've always wanted for a first contact scene. This movie gave us what we wanted. It was, amazing.

The amount of people in the Internet saying this film is a snoozefest is way too high!

@Drudenfusz

7 жыл бұрын

There are a lot of idiots around in the internet.

@grnarrow7695

7 жыл бұрын

Miss X not enough explosions, people see aliens and they instantly think of violence and that is honestly such a worrying thought about our society

@Tyh694

7 жыл бұрын

Probably the same people who loved Suicide Squad or some meanless shit like that.

@TheMarkSasuke64

7 жыл бұрын

A lot of my own favorite movies are snoozefests. Doesn't mean it's bad.

@crozraven

7 жыл бұрын

not surprised. Many people expecting this movie as action-war alien movie.

Shoulda said this year's ago, but Villaneuve directed the movie, but he didn't write the concept, which is written by Ted Chiang.

@adityasanthosh702

4 жыл бұрын

It's a short story. Villuneuve is the screenwriter. I would give the same credit to both people since this is hard to adapt let alone visualise and present it on screen

@nabil731

4 жыл бұрын

@@adityasanthosh702 Eric Heisserer is the one who wrote the screenplay not Villaneuve

I watched this movie with my boyfriends family and was in awe. Such a wonderful film. Unfortunately I was the only one who liked it. When we talked about it afterwards I had to debate with 5 people who didn't like it. They thought it was pretentious and didn't achieve what it wanted to. Total bummer. But it makes me so happy to see video like this about arrival and to read all the comments here from people who feel like me : )

@fasillimerick7394

2 жыл бұрын

I have to admit, the movie it itself pretty seriously. But it's a great illustration of the phrase, "it's not bragging if you can actually do it".

@fwiffo

Жыл бұрын

I haven't met anybody who didn't like it. Not everyone thought it was a masterpiece, but the worst review I've heard was "I really enjoyed that." And I've also heard a fair few along the lines of "I can't believe what I just saw and it changed my life in a profound way."

@brotherbuboy

Жыл бұрын

you cannot marry this man

*+Nerdwriter1* There's one thing that bugs me. At 3:15 you say that the aliens, being able "to see all the time at once", "use that skill to access future events to influence her present". That phrasing seems to indicate that the aliens are deliberately implanting images from her future into her mind. If that's the case I would disagree. According to the Sapir Whorf hypothesis the structure of a language would shape your thoughts and behavior. She acquires the capability to see time as nonlinear, seeing images and glimpses of her future, from learning the universal language. She gains this skill gradually the more she learns to write and read the logograms. It's by the end of the movie, when the aliens give her the full scope of this language, that she's then able to interact with her future. With their help, she gains the capability to access future events and influence her present. The aliens enabled her to do so by gifting the language but did not implant these visions. Once she had that skill she made the choice of using it. It might seem like a minor difference of interpretation but in my opinion this relates to free will. "If you could see your whole life laid out in front of you, would you change things?" We actually don't know for sure who much of the future the aliens are capable of seeing. Is it really "all the time at once"? I'd rather extrapolate from Adams capabilities after she learns the integrity of the language and infer that they can only see and interact with glimpses of their future. I think the aliens took the risk of coming to Earth and give this tool because they knew they would need help or knowledge in the future. Humanity made the choice to accept it. *Great review! Until now, it's the first one I saw that's an actual analysis of a major theme in the movie. The parallels you've pointed out are compelling. And now that you've talked about the Kuleshov effect I'll be more attentive to these montages in the future. I'm always amazed by films that are able to convey so much with so little words.*

@monchosalce

7 жыл бұрын

To be precise it was 3000 years in the future that the aliens would require help from humanity.

@DBestization

7 жыл бұрын

Spoilers. That is partially what he means, in the film, there is a theory that a language shapes the way we think for example imagine a language where North south east west is the only words to describe directions, left and right are nonexistent. That language would cause you to always know your north and south, as well as you, know your left and right. So in the movie by learning the language of the aliens Amy Adams learns to see through time so the gift the heptapods gave her was language in itself. That is why when the alien states you have weapon she realises she can see all of time and the movie starts showing more and more of the way she pictures time.

@ObaREX

7 жыл бұрын

No he was saying that Amy Adams was using the skill the aliens basically taught her.

@willhaslem

7 жыл бұрын

Moon Too much to read and for that reason I'm out.

@kelticsage

7 жыл бұрын

Put simply, she could remember her future as you only remember your past

Watched first 30 seconds of this video, paused it and watched the movie. HOLY FUCKING SHIT

@Suba932

7 жыл бұрын

It's fucking awesome heh

@jagdishverma7732

7 жыл бұрын

Hola hoops holy fucking shit. right !

@VEX_INC

7 жыл бұрын

did you watch it online or at a cinema? i dont mind watching online...i just dont do it anymore and i dont know whats safe nowadays.

@TheRelativeUnknown

7 жыл бұрын

online. everything is safe nowadays.

@YourArabLord

7 жыл бұрын

Itdosnt Matter None is working in that website

I love this movie so much. It’s a movie that treats its audience with respect. This movie is why I have such high hopes for Dune.

@smileychess

2 жыл бұрын

I had no idea they were the same director. Yes Dune has a great shot at being good.

@Fiveash-Art

2 жыл бұрын

@@smileychess Too bad it's not .... It's a little better than this piece of crap 'Arrival' though. Not by much

@Yotarnn

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fiveash-Art tell me you have 70 IQ without telling me.. just because you're aggressively stupid doesn't mean this movie is bad...

@arkanag5286

Жыл бұрын

Fiveash-art, piece of crap? go watch superhero movies.

@walrus2515

9 ай бұрын

@@Fiveash-Art Eh, _I_ love it. As I love Arrival.

It's so sad to know that there are people out there who won't understand the symbolism and intricacies of this masterpiece because they've decided that it is "boring." 😭it was so beautiful

@geniusonyeo

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly... I'm glad the majority of people that came to this video are on the same page as I am.

@jerrygil1965

2 жыл бұрын

I ran to this video

I just saw the movie and I hate myself that I didn't watch it on cinema, I am lost of words!! Such an amazing film and performance of Amy Adams, and the Academy is SO shitty that didn't nominate her for an Oscar!

@thegoldencaulk2742

7 жыл бұрын

Who cares about Oscar nominations? It's a wank-fest for Hollywood. If Arrival was about a gay black man learning to communicate with aliens about how living in LA is the greatest feeling ever, it'd be a clean sweep at the Oscars.

@fredguy2

7 жыл бұрын

Triggered?

@markalusss

7 жыл бұрын

Lets leave gay black men out of this. Arrival is an exceptional movie, as is Moonlight. Keep it cute sir.

@cristianb4502

7 жыл бұрын

Same thing happend to me, thought it was going to be a regular sci fi film so i skip it from the cinema.

@lordseaworth6055

7 жыл бұрын

Oscar? Really? for this crappy movie? lol

Spoiler alert? One of the concepts i took away is that since she was living and thinking a non-linear existence, she knew that her child would be born with a rare genetic disorder that would give her a short life but she chose this life anyway. Although tragedy could strike anytime it was a simple decision to make. It gave me a sense of contentment with whatever life has to offer because even with the bad comes all of those unforgettable experiences that you would never trade. Lingering on the bad and you lose sight of all of the moments worth living.

@evadan100

6 жыл бұрын

I relieved to read a comment by someone who actually understood this aspect of the movie. Thank you.

@Fredrikschou

6 жыл бұрын

Watched it with the mother of my daughter. We cried rivers at the end...

@AshenElk

6 жыл бұрын

Or you could take the view that she chose that hardship and suffering for her daughter regardless. This is the beauty of interpretation.

@vilwarin5635

6 жыл бұрын

For me it was like she had no other option. Future, present and past were the same for her. One moment her child wasn´t born, and the next she was dead. Also, it seemed to me that the love and pain she felt made easier for the aliens to make her understand. In some of the most special scenes, she remembers her daughter and understand something more. And she understands why one of the aliens chooses to die anyway, even when it could´ve survived. Feelings where their mutual language, and for her, her daughter was her entire live, and the reason she does everything.

@Flyed

5 жыл бұрын

Living life like that would be fucking awful. You're binded to one road, there's never any options. The only thing you can do is accept it.

I have a slight curiosity of whether the radiation that Ian and Louise exposed themselves to in the ship led to the genetic disease that Hannah ended up dying from.

@MrArjunsexy

4 жыл бұрын

There was no radiation . They specifically tell that the ship is radiation free .

@fiderlick2039

4 жыл бұрын

Alanna McGrane I believe the purpose of the disease is purely thematic, there is no purpose in looking for why she got it because that’s not the point imo

@hayk3000

4 жыл бұрын

@@fiderlick2039 well there's not really a reason why people get diseases

@MkeKen67

3 жыл бұрын

@@hayk3000 - There can be causes of disease, but not really reasons. Some religious folks think that everything happens for a reason, but IMHO, most things happen randomly. I suppose, one could argue that "random-ness" was created by a deity, and you could not prove or disprove such a hypothesis.

@anonymous4244

2 жыл бұрын

@@MkeKen67 Which is why faith is a belief, not something that necessarily needs proving or disproving. It's not a scientific question.

I had my first kiss in the theatre watching this movie with my first girlfriend back in high school.

@cdemr

3 жыл бұрын

Abott the smart spacesquid spitting alien ink, trully romantic

@viktorvondoom9119

3 жыл бұрын

You probably missed the whole movie!

@Sahaib3005

3 жыл бұрын

How many subscribers can I get from this comment? I currently have 62.

Arrival was a brilliant movie for me. Took the Sci-Fi genre away from explosions and monsters. I had difficulty expressing how good the movie was to my friends and family, however this video sums up everything I had to say. +1 Subscriber :)

@peacefuldawn6823

7 жыл бұрын

there was still one explosion damn it

@KamiKavi

7 жыл бұрын

ShartFluid and monsters

@CraftyMusoOfficial

7 жыл бұрын

Kind of like Ex Machina :)

@daniellopes8376

7 жыл бұрын

Arrival and Ex Machina are not good movies from a scientific perspective.

@CraftyMusoOfficial

7 жыл бұрын

It's sci-fi, what points didn't you like?

This is why I love this guy. Philosophy and film all in one place.

@URPndJs

7 жыл бұрын

Same.

@marshmallowpone

7 жыл бұрын

Amber Shoffren too bad philosophy is 100% bullshit

@omnissiah1119

7 жыл бұрын

Why do people hate philosophy so much? I see a lot of people with similar sentiments to philosophy as yours, but I don't understand why. Could you enlighten me, as to why you personally find it bullshit? I am genuinely curious.

@danethenice

7 жыл бұрын

Lyra Heartstrings Just because you find something difficult to understand, or are unaware of how it works, doesn't mean it's bullshit.

@clara-nt9rx

7 жыл бұрын

A bald, aghast guinea pig because of lack of actual evidence to back up ideas?

Another aspect of the film seems to portray language as a Mandelbrot set. From Louise's own inner monologue trying to understand her own emotions, through the difficulty of explaining her motivations to her own group, all the way up to trying to find common context with aliens from other dimensions, it was the same conflict shown at different levels of magnification.

I'd like to add something to the language part. Denis Villeneuve is a Québécois which is a french-speaking people that live in Canada. The Québécois are often confronted on deep identity debats by the fact that they are not independant and part of an english speaking country with a distinct culture than the one of the Québécois. Canadians and Québécois dont communicate together that much and aleniate each other which is why they are often referred as the two solitudes. I think this social situation in his home country has influenced this movie.

@ALucas73

4 жыл бұрын

Two Solitudes, isn't that a song by Level 42.

@leonieg.3826

4 жыл бұрын

J'avoue que j'avais pas vu ça comme ça, mais que ça donne beaucoup de sens au travail de Villeneuve! Incroyable, merci pour cette réflexion!

@eldiran2

Жыл бұрын

I think his point is far Higher than that.

@maryclaremayo6157

Жыл бұрын

I grew up in Montréal in the 60's and 70s, then moved to Toronto. I know very personally what you are talking about.

@tammycroft6217

Жыл бұрын

As a high school senior, I visited Quebec and Montreal as part of the French Club. Quebec was almost rabidly French oriented to the point I couldn't find anything in English. While Montreal was a lot more welcoming to me as an English speaker in a French enviroment. The guys in the club joked at how often we used "Parlez-vous anglais?" but while Quebec would ignore us or treat us as inferior because we asked if anyone spoke English, Montreal never did.

Seeing this video posted made me finally get off my ass and watch this film just so I could watch it unspoiled. Best decision I've made all year. Thank you.

@RikalJsiPunk

7 жыл бұрын

same me :D

@Pituzer

7 жыл бұрын

"finally get off my ass and watch this film" XD

@SachithMaduranga

7 жыл бұрын

me too :D

@Milaith

7 жыл бұрын

I did the same as soon as I saw the title of the video. Man...what a movie.

@ThePonderer

7 жыл бұрын

Miki Vega Tendo I'm pretty happy with it actually.

I though this movie was a lot smarter and better than Interstellar (btw, this channel does podcasts but on our main channel storytellers we do similar film analysis as Nerdwriter, sorry for pluggin but maybe some of you are interested)

@Drudenfusz

7 жыл бұрын

I thought both films have their merits, and even though both seem to use similar tropes, I would say they explore different themes.

@cjiscool8668

7 жыл бұрын

The Storytellers Podcast ^ idk about smarter or better but it was co

@WillOnCode

7 жыл бұрын

The Storytellers Podcast no just no even tho it's Fantasy but interstellar told the truth to a point this movie just lied lol

@SwarlsBarkley

7 жыл бұрын

Anne Hathaway kinda ruined Interstellar :(

@kabeltelevizio

7 жыл бұрын

I thought so too...then I watched the movie and I no longer think that....

I couldn't breath by the end ... There are a lot of things to learn from this film, but the way this actress loved her daughter before she was born it is unthinkable, at the point that, she could change her present in order to have an healthy child, but the connection that she had with her in her premonitions, was so strong and meaningfull, that she decides to not change the future. I'm glad we don't know the future of our lifes It feels like we're protected.

The most intense reaction to a movie I ever had to experience. It was kind of violent and quite not pleasant, that one second when this whole movie bashed straight in my heart. I cried my eyes out for hours that evening. And I mean that as a huge compliment.

@19ThreeLions97

2 жыл бұрын

I remember sitting at the barracks, we had one guy showing it from small laptop screen to the whole room and it still managed to be so emotionally engaging it became my favourite film

People with a attention span of a jellyfish and people who don't wanna use their brain in the movies called this movie crap.

@wilhelmaschenberger5556

7 жыл бұрын

im exactly the opposite but this movie was crap.

@SlikTF

7 жыл бұрын

That you would say that towards anyone with a different opinion says enough, lol.

@maxmonas7131

7 жыл бұрын

Nah. This movie was really easy to follow. I didn't need to use my brain at all. Did you think Inception was complex also?

@tytube3001

7 жыл бұрын

i.e. People who voted for Trump

@garrettbgross

7 жыл бұрын

Why do you feel that this movie was crap?

This film taught me something.

@mauriciosoares9516

7 жыл бұрын

That aliens look like weird hands.

@Mjolknirn

7 жыл бұрын

to skate fast eat ass

@GreenGiantSlayer

7 жыл бұрын

NonZeroSumGame yeah, don't elaborate or anything. it's fine

@carlosletona18

7 жыл бұрын

That some people won't understand the meaning of this movie so they'll just ask someone on youtube

@sada0101

7 жыл бұрын

Nobody noticed his name?

This was one of the first movies that actually brought tears to my eyes from the sheer weight of its message, and the quality of its storytelling. My favorite movie, hands down.

"Zero-sum game! " that line was awsome.... Like Bruce Willis' wedding ring running on the floor

@A6Legit

3 жыл бұрын

Non zero sum game

I'm so glad you made this. I love Arrival.

@Neel-ff4mn

7 жыл бұрын

MAK Videos It should've won Best Picture. It's far superior to La La Land and Moonlight.

@princessjellyfish6057

7 жыл бұрын

Bob Dole the point you missed is that saving the world can simply mean communication between two people. It doesn't have to be an epic show down.

@RoySpray

7 жыл бұрын

This movie was boring as hell and felt like it was wrapped up at the end. Did not like.

@mikekearney5949

7 жыл бұрын

Roy Spray why did you find it boring and why didn't you like the ending?

@mikekearney5949

7 жыл бұрын

Tomislav Kovačić what?

The reveal at the end is one of the most chilling and brilliant experience I've ever had in a cinema. Well done.

@54545flipperdipper

7 жыл бұрын

Elmer Son Elmer Son Elmer Son the reveal at the end was basically another form of the ending of inception with the whole "old man waiting to die alone". Traveling back in time. Remembering past selves.

@shaylempert9994

7 жыл бұрын

actually I expected it.

@whodatninja439

7 жыл бұрын

both the opening and ending made me cry, wtf movie?!!

@1haunt

7 жыл бұрын

Eric Dickson-Peppler wow, you just said a whole lot of nothing.

@Ryan-nm8pw

7 жыл бұрын

I bet you're a riot at parties.

I went to university for linguistics. There are some issues I have with the linguistics in the film but otherwise I feel at its core it is so good that when people don't understand what my degree is in, I just say "The sort of stuff they did in Arrival" and people understand. It does give me a bit of pride to say that too 😅

This film was like catharsis for my soul. Stunning visuals, a film score like no other and a beautiful story from the mind of a true writer.

I loved this movie, and your analysis of it made me understand so many things I'd missed. A point you didn't mention is something I saw on another analysis: Louise can see her whole future, included the tragedy in it, but decides to live it anyways. A somewhat beautiful message of hope.

@PombaoDumau

7 жыл бұрын

She lived her entire life knowing what would happen. She made the same decisions knowing that in the end her daughter would die and Hawkeye would leave her...It is so fucking sad and brilliant.

@Robert399

6 жыл бұрын

I actually felt this detracted from the ending because it's so egocentric. They ignore the whole ethical question of whether it's right to bring someone into the world knowing they'll suffer terrible pain, family breakdown and ultimately die young. I'm not trying to inflict a judgment here but the film ignores the issue entirely. Worse, they make it clear that this is the reason "Hawkeye" left her and it's a pretty fucking major reason but it's treated as if he were just being puerile.

@joah9166

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed. As a comment on other films, Arrival works. But as a story with characters you are supposed to care about, it fails on every level. It's clearly alluded that Louise keeps her daughter's death to herself, which is the most self-centred decision I could ever think of.

@rafaelmarkos4489

6 жыл бұрын

The idea in the short story was that she couldn't change her future, which I think makes it more brave. I prefer to look at the movie from that angle, since I like the movie and want a coherent plot in my head whenever I think of it.

@causeno1048

6 жыл бұрын

That's my interpretation too. For me, the realization that the movie's timeline wasn't linear came before the movie showing that the main character starts to grasp the language (and thus a simultaneous view on her timeline. So I like to think that when she comes to the university to teach she is sad, because she "subconsciously" already lived through her husband divorcing her and her daughter dying. And later in the movie she can fully see it but still decides to live it because she cherishes the good moments.

This film is without a doubt head and shoulders above many of the other movies out there right now. The cinematography is just spectacular. The plot was very good; it was suspenseful, intelligent, engaging. Everything that this story needed to be it was. This is a film that leaves you looking at not only people, aliens, humanity, but life itself in a completely different way.

@Beatness121

7 жыл бұрын

I think the statement "Everything that this story needed to be it was" is a great way to describe this movie. It's very simple, but beautifully so.

@Gnarkill60

7 жыл бұрын

Mamdeen na, the whole scene where she gets sucked up by the egg was as silly as Mathew McConaughey going into the bookshelf in interstellar.

@Todsor

7 жыл бұрын

Less you know about aliens, more interesting you find this film

The Nerdwriter’s channel has to be one of the very best thing KZread ever had to offer; I’m always amazed and simply in love with how smartly done all the videos are made

One of my favorite movies of all time! watched it again the other day and it still makes me want to cry like a little baby.

*Just wanted to mention that the plot of Arrival is from a short story by Ted Chiang called "The Story Of Your Life.*

@Emeralsha

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for that, I had no idea.

@panther724

7 жыл бұрын

No problem

@nyxbozovic7503

7 жыл бұрын

It has actually been highly reworked by the SriptWriter and Director of this film. But, it is based on that short story.

@markjankowski5242

7 жыл бұрын

I found it to be pretty close to the source material from what I remember

@jonashirtvisuals

6 жыл бұрын

Renan Almeida you should listen do the q and a podcast about the screenwriter adaptation it's amazing

I don't have time to read over 3000 comments to see if anyone else realized this... but the movie is NOT ABOUT TIME TRAVEL. It is about MEMORIES. The aliens have memories in the past and future. They knew we would help them in 3000 years because they remember it that way. As the movie progresses Dr Banks is experiencing more and more MEMORIES of the future. She is NOT time travelling. Add to this that she is special because she is able to do this. She makes a conscious effort to remember the future when she remembers what the Chinese leader told her she said. This was a leap for her. To deliberately access those memories and use them, instead of just experiencing them. Knowing this... she can remember her daughter, but can she do something about it? I believe she can, but chooses to still have the child because it is better to have the child and make the most of it. It is said to us that her husband left because of what she told him. As explained in the video he blamed her for not telling him about their daughter's fate sooner... as in before they conceived. Because had she told her husband about the fate of their daughter he would have chosen not to have it. Then giving new memories for the future.

@celeryg66

7 жыл бұрын

what confused me about this movie is we saw flashbacks/forwards? before she met the aliens. I thought that start of the movie was her mourning her dead child. wiki mentions the aliens need humans help in 3000 yrs , but I did not get that from the movie, so I must have dozed off a few times lol

@sathirakatugaha974

7 жыл бұрын

That's still mental time travel, basically she sees 2d time

@gregasmic

7 жыл бұрын

celery66 I think that's one of the main meta in the the movie. You are perceiving time as linear, when the idea of Time in the movie is non-linear; the Past and the Future both happens at the present. Note that Present is also (happens in) the past and also the future. So when you saw the "memory" of her daughter dying (at your Present), you are seeing her future (because of the non-linear time perception)

@celeryg66

7 жыл бұрын

www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qyhz3

@MichaelPalmateerPhotography

7 жыл бұрын

This movie made my brain hurt. I love it it is easily one of the best movies I have seen. I'm still baffled that Arrival or Hacksaw did not win best picture. Two different movies but both movies made you think and were beautiful movies in the way they were crafted

When I rewatched this film recently I couldn't help but think about the visual similarity of the interior of the "Alien's" ship and Hieronymous Bosch's 'Ascent of the Blessed' - A white light at the end of a tunnel.

I believe those ships which showed up at different places are actually the same ship in a higher dimension. We just see its bits displaced in our plane because we cant access the dimension in which the whole shop exists.

I've noticed a bunch of people saying that audiences did not turn up for this movie. Not so. It made $203 million worldwide ($101 million in U.S.) on a $47 million budget. That's 20 million viewers in theaters, roughly, and a profitable film.

@indowithbadenglish5677

5 жыл бұрын

But many of them are dissapointed because the film didn't meet their expectation.

@robinsingh6408

5 жыл бұрын

@@indowithbadenglish5677 Expectations of showing typical absurd explosions throughout the 2 hour movie? Yeah sure it would have disappointed a lot of marvel (just for reference) fanboys and I'm glad it did.

@indowithbadenglish5677

5 жыл бұрын

@@robinsingh6408 yeah me too,.. i'm also glad but feel sad in the same time.. i feel sad for them who can't understand movie with such profoundly deep meaning and full of thoughts like this. They sure missed a lot, much more than they realize. And this movie can't offer them simplicity too.

@t9rror462

5 жыл бұрын

χტ ϟ PαϻThεSϼαϻ420 im a marvel fan didn’t disappoint me

@robinsingh6408

5 жыл бұрын

@@briantomassoni8928 Calm down there little fella, I used MCU fans just as a metaphor for all the kids who'd watch an awful movie even after poor adaptation of characters, plot holes and fuck-all logics like a sheep. You prefer romcom, drama, action? You go ahead buddy but you're the one who set false expectations from this movie, the movie never wanted or tried to get you 'hyped', it gets you thinking. You're just in the wrong place. You want a movie with action and which will get you hyped? Just watch any other movie from the 2000s till now, they're all the same. The concept of time interpretation with linguistics is fairly original to a 'super-strong villain appears who beats the hero, by the end of the movie the hero beats him'. That's not my taste anymore but you do you but I won't go as far as watching the film and then bitching about the film based on mere speculations, not worth my time.

Do not watch, I repeat DO NOT WATCH this video if you haven't seen the film first. It has too many spoilers.

@M419.99

7 жыл бұрын

lol thanks, no warning and watched it anyway...

@Ildskalli

7 жыл бұрын

Too late for that. It sucks that the author did not put a disclaimer up front.

The scene with Amy Adam’s realising she must remove / take off the barrier, that’s blocking communication with Abbott and Costello, is like the documentary My Octopus Teacher. In that, the communication scientist is also emotionally vulnerable. Also, the aliens literally look like octopus’!

I had been waiting for six years to watch this video essay, one of the few Nerdwriter videos I'd yet to see. Yesterday I finally got around to watching Arrival and boy, am I glad I avoided spoilers all these years. And today as soon as I managed to, I came here to finally watch your essay. It's still due another couple watches, but for now I can say I really like your comparison between the power of film as an art form that gifts as a whole new perspective and the aliens' gifting humans the universal language. So spot on. I don't remember having watched anything quite as thoughtful for quite a long time.

Best movie of 2016.... Easily top 3 as of now. Maybe the best movie i've seen ever. I saw it twice in theater by choice. Loved it.

@AlquimistEd

7 жыл бұрын

Neither Doctor Strange nor Civil War come close to Arrival. lol

@kellyvtec

7 жыл бұрын

Connor Zola I saw Rogue One, it was entertaining... but the seriousness of the film... made it more "real" than sci-fi. it just matched better to my taste/mood. the other films are great movies as well. but it lacked the serious tone i needed.

@neilcreamer8207

7 жыл бұрын

Me too, kellyvtec. The direction and music made me uncomfortable and led me to empathise with Louise so I felt both the tragedy in her story and her acceptance of it. I was genuinely surprised by the plot reveal and cried like a baby. This is one of my favourite movies ever and I've seen a few.

@kellyvtec

7 жыл бұрын

Neil Creamer so much of this movie's tone made it so meaningful. it's hard to explain why, but it connected to me on more just than entertainment. Thought provoking and emotional. if you liked this movie's tone, you might enjoy Secario as well.

@kellyvtec

7 жыл бұрын

Neil Creamer Neil Creamer so much of this movie's tone made it so meaningful. it's hard to explain why, but it connected to me on more just than entertainment. Thought provoking and emotional. if you liked this movie's tone, you might enjoy Secario as well.

Massive spoilers above. *DO NOT WATCH* IF YOU INTEND TO SEE IT

@burton188

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Was about to watch it then decided to wait . . .

@1234macro

7 жыл бұрын

This really saved me, thanks.

@matthewbadger8685

7 жыл бұрын

Alas, i did not read the comments beforehand... :(

@wesselbindt

7 жыл бұрын

I'd already seen it, but thanks for being a decent person, Victor. I do not understand why people are opposed to spoiler warnings.

@seanhardy_

7 жыл бұрын

nobody is opposed to spoiler warnings though. are they?

Arrival and Moonlight are two films that I think about over and over again. Both seem to have similar themes, the fear of communication, and the fear of living.

There’s a scene in the film where all the words of the extra terrestrial language appear on screen. It looks quite random but they realise that it sends an important message, the fact that they can comprehend time differently and that it’s their gift to humanity. It’s so interesting to see that same replication of chaotic randomness when all the media channels talk about China changing their stance and the world uniting and connecting with each other in the end. The news channels appear together randomly sending the same message. I think it’s real brilliance in direction, showing that both scenes show a lot of chaotic randomness but reveal an important message that drives the film forward.

I don't usually comment but after watching this video there is no doubt in my mind that this is the best channel on youtube. I loved this film and I appreciate your deep analysis and commentary. Keep up the good work and please do more video essays on films.

@noel7255

7 жыл бұрын

I also suggest Lessons from the screenplay! Him and this channel are my two favorite when it comes to filmmaking and explanation

@TomasiAkimeta

7 жыл бұрын

agree on both accounts... both of these KZread channels are tremendous

friends hated the film, i really loved it. i found it thought provoking

@wysiwyg2006

7 жыл бұрын

also where is that music from. i thought it was from children of men. but guess not. thank you

@wysiwyg2006

7 жыл бұрын

its ok thanks, storytellers below mentioned it is "Disconnect".

@wysiwyg2006

7 жыл бұрын

actually it was in that film too as well as Arrivial. its is - Max Richter - On the Nature of Daylight

@LaitoChen

7 жыл бұрын

kill your friends......I have a shovel

@treasureberry7154

7 жыл бұрын

John Cusick they just expected it to be different

That song... I remember it but I know I've never heard it before... Like a place I've never been to but I know is home, it doesn't make sense I know but I feel it in my heart truer than my own skin.

Whenever I start regretting things in life or feel doubt, I rewatch this gift of a movie to humanity. It even transcends the grief of death for me. It’s just that powerful.

In my opinion the fundamental flaw of the movie is ignorance of the free will. It's a leap of logic to accept that she can see all of her life at once and decide not to change it, and then if you choose to correct the future or just make different decisions (with every new decision there would come a new lifetime of future "memories") , that would be so intense that it would make anyone lose their mind.

@qiushuang239

7 жыл бұрын

That was what I was going to say, I mean, if you knew your daughter is going to die, why not marry someone else?

@joshuachoo7555

7 жыл бұрын

yeah The book the movie is based on explores the idea of having minor omniscience like louise does and that effect on free will? She ends up feeling the push to do certain things that will lead to the future she sees. In a sense she is robbed of free will once she sees a future event, in that she can't act in a way that would violate that knowledge by making that event not come to pass.

@joshuarodriguez2616

7 жыл бұрын

@Qui Shuang do you not DO emotions or something? You sound like a child or a socio. People love who they love, there aint no switch dude. It's like this.. Do I decide to omit my daughter from existence for the selfish reason of not being sad. Or do I love my daughter and get to know her and be sad?

@qiushuang239

7 жыл бұрын

And where in the movie did anyone say she doesn't? After all, saving the world part had no impact on her having her child. So she can save the world and marry someone else and have a perfectly healthy child.

@qiushuang239

7 жыл бұрын

Woah jumping to conclusions too quick are we? There are plenty of fish in the sea and I know for a fact people can fall in love twice with different people. She is stupid for not looking for another possible future. Heck, even her future husband hates her after he learned the truth (just look at the flash backs). She won't omit her daughter out of existence, after all, her daughter never existed up till that point. All she needed to do is pick a different future.

I thought the film was cleverly/aestheticly extremely well made. Palindrome!

@micanikko

7 жыл бұрын

How is it a Palindrome??

@zachsmith3376

7 жыл бұрын

micanikko The movie is about language.The ending is really the start, and she named her daughter Hannah. It was just my impression after seeing the film.

@TelekineticKhai

7 жыл бұрын

that's my third mindblown thanks

@mortenfriis

7 жыл бұрын

That doesn't really make it a palindrome though.

@naruto0o0o0o0

6 жыл бұрын

how is it not lol did you even watch it? thats what the ending was for, to explain that it was all about that concept

talk about perspective, just watched this movie with my kids (I've seen it before, they hadn't, they are 11 and 15) and they are all like "it's all about aliens and talking to them!" and I'm all like "it's about choosing love, even when the character knows it will have pain and loss, but yeah, aliens" and yes I've cried every time I've watched it

Rest in peace Jóhann Jóhannsson.

This film is one of the most fascinating and profound movies I have ever seen.

i discovered today that the sad music was also in shutter island ! it is "on the nature of daylight" by max richter for those who were wondering

@SaHaRaSquad

7 жыл бұрын

I can also recommend "November" by the same composer, imho it's even a bit better.

@akishingoal

7 жыл бұрын

Yep, masterpiece music for two masterpiece movies. But I didn't like that the song was kinda prolonged in the end of Arrival - it was played way too long (for the entire ending sequence, I think) for such a powerful piece of music. That is probably the only nitpick I have for Arrival, though. Great, great film.

@wylnd

7 жыл бұрын

drakem394 check out Waltz with bashir if you like Max Richter!

@3djooboy

7 жыл бұрын

and he nearly didn't let them use it as it's been used for two other films before. So glad he changed his mind, that score in the first sequence sets the tone for the whole film

@jj344444

7 жыл бұрын

listen to the nature of dying by goreshit, its a beautiful remix of on the nature of daylight

This video is 3 years old as at the time i write this comment. It's 3 a.m. where i live and probably nobody will ever read the words i type, they will be forgotten as future becomes past and consumes every thought about this sentences i will had. But still... I still felt like writing them down. To watch Arrival was one of the most intense experiences i ever had. It was cold and snow fell while i waited for a very close friend of mine. She just texted me that she thought we would watch Star Wars 2h later and not the early evening show. As i stood there, pissed of and tempted to just go home i saw that this new movie came out. It was named "Arrival". I don't know what hit me but i decided to watch it. It was the first and until now, also the last time, i've seen a movie all by myself. The cinema was completely empty. It was just me and the movie. I can tell you, dear reader who probably doesn't even exist, look out for yourself. You are the last person you will loose but at the same time you are the first person you met.

@MrYiacouta

3 жыл бұрын

That was beautiful

@benjalucian1515

3 жыл бұрын

So you got stood up and you were moved by sitting in a movie theater all by yourself?

@Tepalus

3 жыл бұрын

@@benjalucian1515 Yes, why?

Bless you! I've been watching videos on this movie for a sound editing homework and they're all so loud, I can't focus on what they're saying. Specially after just watching the movie. The only one who gets the mood of the movie while talking about it is you.

'An idea, however profound it seems to you does not really exists until you can write it down' I disagree, that is just not true. The fact that you don't have the ability or the "language" to convey that idea into words does not mean the idea is not true. The fact that words are just made up from those ideas in the first place already proves that the quote contradicts itself. For example, in science, you can find that many of the 18th and 19th century physicists had plenty of ideas that they simply couldn't put it into math, but they sure were true and proven later on by 20th century scientists.

@4vR3n

7 жыл бұрын

But they could obiously put it in word, and language to some extent can exist in image and memory, at least for the individual subject to think.A word is compose of a signifier and a signified. Ultimatly the signified can preexist but the understanding of the signified as one category, as something that exist, is more often than not rather arbitrary and artificial. And science, only referring and inspired by the personnal experience, without any form of language, would not exist. Keep in mind that language is not nescessaraly spoken.

@BRICKSHOWISCOOL

7 жыл бұрын

galesx95 you're interpreting what he said as something else. If someone 200 years ago had an idea that they never shared with anyone, or had written down. That idea does not exist. You need some kind of written language to bring that idea to everyone else, to the world.

@lefthandedsophiethepop-wit503

7 жыл бұрын

Brick ByBrick then how do u explain improvisational music and dance? Ideas don't need language language needs ideas, this is why I feel the premise of the film is really not profound at all. There's nothing cosmic or grand about language it's actually quite mundane and primitive, it limits human expression rather than expand it, it tries to objectify the abstract, thus the term "there are no words..." If all aliens had 2 offer me was a new language I'd be pissed, ppl do that on earth! ppl like George Lucas and Gene Roddenberry 😂

@4vR3n

7 жыл бұрын

Exept the film did not created the theories on language. And dance or music can easily be explain as forms of language. You need to keep in mind that language can take visual (written) and oral (spoken). And the meaning of a dance or a song is created in the social world. They are not random noise or involuntary movment but are selected to fit a easthetic or to express certain feeling (and not ideas) that are created and codified with the composer (relating to his environment and often culture) but also the listener (relating to his).

@dawngrrrl

7 жыл бұрын

I agree. That also completely disregards very rich and accurate (i.e. vetted and triple-checked) oral histories that go back much farther than written history. For example some aboriginal Australian oral histories go back literally 20,000 years and accurately detail real events that we've verified with anthropological/geological evidence. (I love Arrival and I liked this video, I just had a problem with that one statement for obvious reasons.)

Arrival was way better than Lala land and moonlight. yet the academy ignored it for the big awards like best picture and best actress.

@blondebastard6121

6 жыл бұрын

Abhishek Srivastava moonlight is about 2 black gay guys they automatically won

@ggh_-ts6pn

6 жыл бұрын

lol moonlight is my second favorite movie after arrival last year but that statement makes me laugh

@zeechops401

6 жыл бұрын

Nalaxy You're really dismissing how beautiful that movie was. It's not about just a boy being gay, but about masculinity, abuse, identity, and how these things have such strong affects within black communities. The scene where Black tells Kevin that he hasn't been touched since that night on the beach is heartbreaking. Not just that he hasn't been sexual with anyone else, but that he hasn't let anyone get that close to him emotionally either. The performances were top notch, it deserved all the awards it received.

@blondebastard6121

6 жыл бұрын

Abhishek Srivastava I'm not saying it wasn't a deep, emotional movie I'm just saying the people who voted on best movie said "so we got this alien movie but then we got this movie about the struggles of 2 gay black men-" and then everyone yelled MIDNIGHT because it's 2017 so we can't have anyone thing were against gays, or were racist they probably didn't understand most of the movie anyway. Like how in some scenes there is more blue present witch symbols them expressing there true feelings. But it's hard to say witch one is "better" because it's all option anyway. Sorry for any bad grammar or spelling errors I'm texting on mobile and spell checks a bitch

@JONNOG88

6 жыл бұрын

I know right! If only the Heptapods. Where Black & Gaym. Then Arrival would have been swimming in Oscars. Well that & the fact. That the Heptapods didn't want to be forced fucked by Harvey Weinstein ;)

Wow, thanks for the amazing videos. Just watched two of yours and I'm in love with your work!

The last soundtrack 'on the nature of daylight' that you played here was quasi-palindromic. Not just the movie, even the soundtrack was circle (nearly) At the end, when the Music was playing she stands on the field with jeremy(physicist) but also watch her future. She realises her future husband is the one who stand beside her (she look at him in the present when her daughter calls jeremy daddy in the future) and when she hugs him, she says 'I forgot how good it felt to be held by you' even though she never hugged him since the beginning but only in the future. She says she don't know the beginning when the movie starts and at the end, she says this is where your story begins, because she accepts the future there and hence starts a circle of life that also ends exactly at that moment.