Did This General Just Leak the China War Plan?
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An internal memo from General Michael Minihan, USAF, leader of the Air Mobility Command, which predicts the U.S. will go to war with China in 2025, was recently leaked and has caused quite a stir on social media and with the mainstream media. Retired U.S. Navy Commander Bryan McGrath joins Ward to analyze the memo and resonant concerns it has caused.
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As an Army instructor, you two are incorrect in your comments about aiming for the head. With the proliferation of 3A+ body armor in AO's in the past 10-20 years; training has been (slowly) adjusted from aiming for center mass, to aiming for the head. You still will shoot center mass with rifles or at a greater distance. But within 20m, you should be proficient at hitting the head. You train for it with sidearms so you can have muscle memory and sight picture of a head. Otherwise, under stress, people will revert back to center mass targeting, which will NOT neutralize an enemy. The Air Force and Navy have lacked basic ground skills for too long (sorry, doing a single rotation in a SERE lvl3 class ONCE in your career doesn't count). Army and Marine Aviation companies have been doing training like this for years. Simply because when you can't lob a missle from 26 miles away, you need to know how to accurately and quickly lob lead from 26m away.
@karmpuscookie
Жыл бұрын
You seem angry. Surely each engagement rests on its own merits, thus the 'head' comment appears a naive one-dimensional generic statement, not particularly helpful and not too professional from a General's pen.
@scootertooter6874
Жыл бұрын
I'll be darned. I stand corrected.
@blackhalo6
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, A 9mm service pistol isn't going to do shit but piss off someone in 3A vest.
@dan96b6
Жыл бұрын
But the real question is does modern pistol doctrine change the term "magazine" to "clip"?
@jf5336
Жыл бұрын
In my all-Navy weapons training in Kuwait in preparation for my year in Iraq, our instructor noted that we were the first class to not have a student inadvertently shot by another student. Our self-defense weapons training is lacking.
The Best Way to Prevent War is being VERY READY, WILLING, ABLE TO FIGHT AND WIN
@glennkamers
Жыл бұрын
Or play tic tac toe
@medeliworld
Жыл бұрын
Didn't seem to work in Vietnam and Afghanistan.
@Karl-Benny
2 ай бұрын
Two Nuclear powers there is no Winner
I have flown on C-130 for 30 years now and we have always practiced shooting 2 to center mass and one to the head with our side arms. But in the coming conflict our enemy maybe wearing more body armor which is why he is saying to practice head shots. This also gets everyone out of there comfort zone in order to take this more seriously. Glove 🇺🇸✈️
I am just happy that someone in the military is thinking about fighting, if we have to.
@sjpavur
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
Just when you thought you knew everything about the KC-135…
@baremetalmafia
Жыл бұрын
As a former crew chief on said airframe….I do 😂
@eazymoneyracing
Жыл бұрын
You would be surprised
@harryh5620
Жыл бұрын
@@eazymoneyracing old water wagon crew chief here - I'd love to see how 135s are deploying UAVs. Wing hardpoints? Aft hatch? Squirting out of the boom?
@DefinitelyNotEmma
Жыл бұрын
Truly limitless potential lol KC-135 ICBM carrier when?
@asherwiggin6456
Жыл бұрын
@@harryh5620 the UAVs are made of nano bits which are sprayed out the boom
@WardCarroll It has been a long time since I have seen Commander McGrath's face. He was my first XO on USS Princeton back when I checked onboard in March of 2000. Sir, you were hands down the best XO that I ever served under, Honor and Glory!
Gentlemen, I’m a retired Army Infantry Senior NCO, just wanted to post a couple thoughts from what I’ve heard in that memo. First thing that caught my interest is the part regarding shooting a ‘clip’ into a ‘7 meter’ target. A more direct and clear way to convey his intent would be to refer to a specific weapons qualification table such as the 10 meter pistol range where all personnel (within certain ranks and/or duty positions) are required to qualify with a certain score that the General specifies. We refer to all weapon ammunition storage devices as a ‘magazine’, we haven’t used the term ‘clip’ since we shelved the M1 Garand rifle in 1958. The remaining tone and scope of this memo is clearly written from a point where the General has received his orders of imminent tactical actions either offensive or defensive in nature. As we know, to ensure our success, we must have an efficient logistical system and all newer technologies are to be out of any form of beta evaluations to ensure confidence and effect is gained. But I wonder if someone outside our Military wrote this or maybe modified this for a PSYOP impact, the wording seems to be from a non-military person given the grammar and choice of words.
@JB-pu8ik
Жыл бұрын
"the wording seems to be from a non-military person given the grammar and choice of words." My immediate and uncharitable thought is that he IS an Air Force flag officer. 😁 But yes, the whole tone of this memo felt... odd.
@echohunter4199
Жыл бұрын
@@JB-pu8ik we don’t clearly know if he did write the memo which is why I said that it could’ve been written by some civilian staff member. And since our DoD is infiltrated with political correctness and liberal/socialist people who jump to full on rage at the drop of a hat, the chances are up there that someone pushed this out, could even be just a regular PSYOP piece. When a group of politicians want a full on war, they know it’ll be a great distraction from countless scandals, same for 9-11, nobody remembers the missing trillions of dollars that was being investigated and miraculously all three building collapsed on their footprint yet building 7 a couple blocks away had to be demolished the same day as the towers? So I’m just applying the logic I’ve witnessed in my experience, and many Officers today are political participants instead of leaders, bad leaders crave ultimate power over others and will do whatever is required, by hook or crook, they’ll get what they want and the body language I saw from that General screams he’s a toxic leader and tries his best to impress his handlers. I’ve worked with both great Officers and worthless ones, usually it’s the west pointers that’re the worst. And in the Infantry, we don’t tolerate whiny infants that abuse their assigned Soldiers. As NCO’s, we simply allow his mistakes to be open for his raters to see, we had one West Point Officer back in 1989 who was a good man but our Company Commander was…..lacking so, we protected our platoon leader from small mistakes that everyone makes since the CO was abusive to his junior Officers, we all knew our LT was going to be a good leader in the Infantry and we didn’t want him to be affected poorly by a horrible eater, thankfully he’s still in the Army as a Senior Officer and leading Infantrymen. And what I’m grateful of is how political correctness has not infected my branch and the men just blow it off which infuriates the liberal Officers.
@joem3999
Жыл бұрын
Almost all of what we see in media is a Psyop man. Don't matter which side you're on, we are all being programed.
Ward, to answer your questions on the ending abbreviations; ARC - Air Reserve Component; NAF - Numbered Air Force, EC - Expeditionary Component. Note also in paragraph 4, General Minihan uses words from Admiral Nimitz to Admirals Spruance and Fletcher in conducting the upcoming engagement at Midway as directed by OPlan 29-42. Having spent 22 years in the Air Force; all in the Military Airlift Command and subsequently Air Mobility Command (AMC), I have a sense of what the General is attempting to say. There's some stuff in that letter I like you would not write and/or publicly state. However, the first rule in Air Force Communications is to "know and speak to your audience." The General's audience is to the personnel of the Air Mobility Command...NOT US. So in numbers, I think the General has struck about 85% of the notes correctly, I'm not going to come down too hard on the 15% that's a bit over the top. Minahen sees a glaring problem to which I wholeheartedly agree and he needs to get his command ready. One last note, airlift aircraft don't shoot missiles or drop bombs but they DO get those missiles and bombs to the operators who use them. Airlift forward operating bases can also be close to the enemy so knowing how to shoot move and communicate applies as much to the loggies as it does the operators. The AOR for AMC IS the entire world, Finally, I very much enjoy watching your videos and the subject matter you discuss. I am after all a subscriber.
@NickMackenzieMD
Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@bighands69
Жыл бұрын
When war comes which it will people will look at moments like these in a different light. The general is stating in written words what everybody knows but is not willing to say out loud. China is preparing for war but is at a point of being to scared to actually start that war but there are a set of internal conditions in China that will push them over the edge to that war. I know this is not the sort of thing people want to hear but we all know deep down it is coming.
@dougreid2351
Жыл бұрын
Comma. (They're prtty cheap & very useful...) DOUGout
@LuvBorderCollies
Жыл бұрын
I assume you are familiar with "Rapid Dragon"??
@realWARPIG
Жыл бұрын
Rapid Dragon turned airlift airframes into cruise missle bombers instantly. Those AMC boys will be scoring kills in the next war.
Your video today was perfectly timed for our Military History class. The assignment" We have no idea what we're fighting for anymore". I had the kids watch the video and it brought about an avalanche of discussion. We discussed Afghanistan, Vietnam, and this China war plan. I use many of your videos as a discussion point for my classes. Great timing!
@MOzarkMike
Жыл бұрын
Your students are very fortunate to have you as their teacher!
@tinto278
Жыл бұрын
you sound like a chicom.
@DavidRLentz
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your perspective. We enter truly difficult times, requiring of us all our very best. Please pass to your pupils my keen appreciation for their service, and for their dedication to the crises at hand.
@accountantthe3394
Жыл бұрын
"When you're the hammer, everything looks like a nail." That's the problem with a highly militarised society in the US - the solutions to every problem seems to always stem from the muzzle of a gun. Try instead, to use the money spent on arms to improve lives of americans e.g. healthcare; mass shootings; homelessness and poverty; housing etc. Then apply this same thinking to diplomacy with other sovereign nations like JF Kennedy once advocated for. You'll draw more allies to isolate your enemies that way rather than threatening the use of force. That's what China is doing today, and that's why US is panicking. Edit: Oh dear, I seem to have triggered some freeboos with factual observations. One can only bring the horse to the water afterall, certainly can't force it to drink. If an echo chamber is what hawkish americans want, then that's what they'll get...consequences and all :)
@Dog.soldier1950
Жыл бұрын
@@accountantthe3394 thats all well and good but not everyone responds to positive reinforcement: Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Putin, XI…and they seek the weak and defenseless which is why we have the DOD and law enforcement. If we didn’t have that I’d just come over to your house and take your stuff
I think this was an unofficial warning to China to let them know: "We're On To What You're Thinking and We Have a plan to make you re-consider your thoughts." It was intended to be "Leaked" and also give The White House quote: "Plausible Deniability" in regard to what was said. Now that may be giving the Executive Branch more credit than it deserves but in any case it puts Bejing On Notice.
@TheFlutecart
Жыл бұрын
I think that knowing it was going to leak is true. It seems to be written in a way that makes it easy to translate to Chinese. It almost looks like it was translated from Chinese into English. Finishing each paragraph with a tidy and pointed underpinned meaning. A touch of loving wokeness mixed in with bravado from a desk General. Looks like 4 Star Trolling to me.
@medeliworld
Жыл бұрын
Certainly quite a stupid warning.
@bernieburawski1446
Жыл бұрын
Ahhh, I don't know. You could be right. Then, it seems to me, why bother even have a state department or White House? Something such as what was written at best seems inappropriate in any sense. And maybe a bit more.
@accountantthe3394
Жыл бұрын
Lol do you think they'd be stopped? US has been threatening them ever since the end of ww2 🤣 From the taiwan issue to tiananmen, to authoritarianism or whatever excuses it comes up with next. Gilday/Davidson/Minihan alone predicted the "war window" would be 2025, 2026, 2027. It won't happen on any of those years. It'll happen on their timetable when they deem themselves ready (before 2049). Good luck by then
@chuckschillingvideos
Жыл бұрын
@@medeliworld Only if you think it's an actual representation of how the US would behave.
As a USN OSW vet a couple things strike me. The military needs a “big bad” for several reasons. Working a brutal flight schedule day in day out for weeks at a time, morale and the ability to self motivate during that time was a lot easier knowing you were contributing to the greater good. Seems like the pentagon has realized that all branches in general and probably the larger military industry are a bit lost without a legitimate threat to focus on. You also need the general population to realize and accept then support the idea that China is indeed an impending and inevitable threat which ultimately keeps the money flowing. On a lighter note, I guess that successful Rapid Dragon test has really got logistics pumped about delivering something other fuel. Maybe a little too pumped.
@peetky8645
Жыл бұрын
could Ukraine drop a himars rocket or sdb from a weather balloon at 100k feet to triple its range?
@livewell453
Жыл бұрын
@@peetky8645 short answer? No. Long answer? Of course not dummy No offence
@peetky8645
Жыл бұрын
@@livewell453 why not. they parachuted missiles out the back of a c130(rapid dragon) and launched them successfully last year. himars or glsdb do not need oxygen, they are rocket motors. i think you lack both imagination and information. himars are ballistic so starting from altitude instead of ground level would increase the distance to impact massively. glsdb because it glides would go even further.
@ahadicow
Жыл бұрын
@@peetky8645 stop and consider what is the definition of a "balloon"
@Skarry
Жыл бұрын
@@ahadicow helium powered flying device? So, if you use that definition, you can.
The best part of this video response is the integrity of Ward and Cmdr McGrath's ability to analyze this professionally. Especially on a topic such as this, we can rely on Ward to break it down for us in an unbiased manner.
@jimmyonthebike194
Жыл бұрын
"Integrity?" They never addressed the issue of Chian and Xi's intentions. WTF with you military people? McGrath went on and on about his priorities as a "taxpayer." Mine are that we are protected by those in positions to do so. Not listen to a couple of KZread personalities complain about a guy who has bad literary style. F#@! professionalism. Ward screwed-up and so did McGrath. WEAK!
@LuvBorderCollies
Жыл бұрын
Ok but the guest's angst and handwringing over a flipping "harsh" memo about a real threat is stomach churning. Apparently very few retired military actually educate themselves with what's actually going on in Chy-na and what Xi has been promising and aims to deliver. Just like the Navy....."everyone stand around and sweat the small stuff."
@jpnewman1688
Жыл бұрын
Military men are dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.. Henry Kissinger.. 💯💯💵💵🤣🤣
I have a Chinese friend. They said that the tone out of China in academia towards their students studying in the U.S. has grown more serious. They're essentially being told to choose sides. Return to China and serve their own country, or remain in the U.S. essentially on their own. This is coming through their mentor networks, advisors, speakers, etc. They have a very insular community here to support them, and that tone is shifting.
@Castragroup
Жыл бұрын
I woudnt mind them returning home to china
@e.l.norton
Жыл бұрын
@@Castragroup Ha! Well, it's a study in contrasts. They're being told to make REAL decisions. Our kids are being told to choose their pronouns and genders. Which side is more prepared for a fight? I used to have absolute confidence in the U.S. These days all there is is cause for very serious concern. We need leadership.
@DefinitelyNotEmma
Жыл бұрын
I think it's not that hard of a choice either. Sorry if this comes off as rude, but from what I've heard from friends that live and study in the US, the US doesn't have a lot to give in terms of education anymore, especially compared to locations in East Asia. Of course a certain patriotic sentiment plays also a part and based on my experience and interactions, plenty of Chinese are very patriotic. Not necessarily because of the state, but because of the country and people. So this move doesn't surprise me too much, if I'm honest.
@e.l.norton
Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotEmma Oh, I agree about the educational system. It's become a joke, even at the ivy league. But, the posture they're assuming is combative. That's the point.
@DefinitelyNotEmma
Жыл бұрын
@@e.l.norton Part of the reason why my sister went to Japan instead of the US to study xD It's really a shame though, but the institutions are fully embracing this new culture, completely forsaking their long history and prestige. But hey, they get points for being good little Marxists, right?
There's no fighting in the War Room!
@JimAllen-Persona
Жыл бұрын
Where are the mine shafts? We can't afford a mine shaft gap.
Mooch. Great article. Currently serving as an engineer for the USAF ( prior Navy ) , on the RQ4 program. Every time I go to the 319th ops center, I am always taken back at the warfighters awareness of this china threat . I was first hearing of this soon to be conflict several months ago summer 22. On the one hand we are divesting the remaining block 40s , the other the war fighter is preparing and wanting sustainment capabilities that will survive a conflict with china. Thank you for this segment . T.K “crash” Spring.
I’m just a few minutes into this video but as a former ground pounder, I’m okay with almost everything he said IF AND ONLY IF this was a discussion with his staff and training staff. The way this was done raises attention of the enemy, potential enemy and any skeptics.
@w0mblemania
Жыл бұрын
I think it's designed for the attention of the media, and China. It's for domestic military consumption -- look at how tough I am -- and for China's analysts -- look how serious we are.
@JB-pu8ik
Жыл бұрын
My immediate thought was "Is this dude running for office?"
@Rorschach1024
Жыл бұрын
@@w0mblemania fair point, but there is the question whether it is his place to mindfuck the chinese analysts. I mean I'm all for putting the Skeer into China, because right now, they aren't afraid of much of anyone, but I doubt Minihan is the guy to do it. But hey, he may have been instructed from upon high to do this, with the knowledge that the upper eschelon will walk it back in the press, make Minihan look the fool in the press, but leave the feeling in China's analysts that this was actually the thinking among military leaders and this was an inadvertent slip. There may be levels here we are not appreciating. It my be that Minihan was planning to retire soon and the leadership decided to use that situation to play on China's analysts. He would be made a fool, but with a wink and a nod that nothing bad will actually happen to him as he retires as planned anyway.
@j.f.fisher5318
Жыл бұрын
@@w0mblemania that was my impression. There was a lot of that in the cold war. "If there is a nuclear war, and they have 1 person left and we have 2, do you think that means we won?" "If one is a man and the other a woman and they can reproduce, yes!" That sort of thing. Subtext: "Don't test us! Were serious!"
@Zerpentsa6598
Жыл бұрын
Okay with it? Are you also nuts?
VRED= virtual Record of Emergency Data. At one time, it was called an emergency data card. It’s the information of whom to notify in case you are injured or killed.
IRRESPONSIBLE!! As a retired officer, I find this horrifying...especially coming from a 4-star. This would be an interesting argument-starter at the O-club, but to publicly release such a document should probably be cause to lose your command.
@oneaburns
Жыл бұрын
I agree. It’s weird how cavalier everyone (including Ward & friend) are being about it’s release. Just because it’s not marked classified doesn’t mean it’s OK to release to the public.
I served at little rock AFB as a part of the 19th airlift wing. General Minihan was the 19th ALW comander he was a Col then. He was a super guy, I drove him around during an exercise after I was killed befor exercise start.
Sometimes “shooting for the head” is the only viable option against someone wearing body armor. It also means to me if you’re focusing on a head shot you need a lot more practice for when the pucker factor goes off scale- high.
As Rudyard Kipling said, “It’s Tommy this, and Tommy that, and chuck him out, the brute.” “ But it’s Savior of the Country , when the guns begin to shoot.”
@lodragan
Жыл бұрын
Yep - there's 'garrison troops', and then there's the guys that really understand war fighting. Thank god for the fighters because those few keep us the hairs-breadth away from destruction when it comes for us.
Full disclosure, I know Mini personally. He’s leading and that’s why you’re throwing stones. He has said he’s fighting 22 years CENTCOM bureaucracy trying to get his command ready for a fight that we will win or lose based on Logistics, for which he is ultimately responsible. There will be little Army/Marine fighting in this war. It will be high end AF/Navy fight and it’s an away game for us. Mini was hand picked to lead AMC and it was because of his PACOM experience.
@meathook7
Жыл бұрын
Is he able to interpret his feelings correctly?
@olentangy74
Жыл бұрын
Well said
@j.f.fisher5318
Жыл бұрын
I'd also point out that his folks are high value targets in such a war, so thinking like warfighters is important. Shooting for the head is maybe important because of body armor but I feel like it's more about thinking like a warrior. Akin to running Army recruits through bayonete training being as much a way to teach that war is about violence as being any kind of valuable technical skill.
@drwinklepecker9298
Жыл бұрын
With great respect, anything against the Chinese will become very dirty. The fight may be AF/Navy but the Chinese operatives embedded in the U.S will wreak so much havoc inside the U.S (sabotage, sewing unrest etc) that the away game will feel like a home game.
@RomericRacing
Жыл бұрын
He also knows the current readiness of his folks and knows this was a message to China just as much as his subordinates.
Lots of ways to interpret this memo. Thank you as always.
2022 was a big year for the channel Ward, was awesome to watch. Let’s hope 2023 is a dissemination of peace. Great upload, hopefully the new generation stay ready.
“If you scratch an F35 “💀💀💀😂
@Caseytify
Жыл бұрын
He's just jealous... 😜
Well, now we can be fairly certain, General Minivan ordered the Code Red...
@harryh5620
Жыл бұрын
YOU'RE DAMNED RIGHT i DID!!!
@Tuffpaddy03
Жыл бұрын
You want him on that wall! You need him on that wall!
@chadwickwright4723
Жыл бұрын
I strenuously object to the word fairly being used, & it's certain the Gen. Unacquivically ordered the code red sir.
@john-lenin
Жыл бұрын
Let's see how far the Air Force gets without refueling
@racpa5
Жыл бұрын
You can’t handle the truth.
Thanks for keeping this around 20 minutes. I think that a reasonable sweet spot
Ward, vRED is the virtual Record of Emergency Data. Each member is required to maintain accurate emergency contact information in the records system. Obviously you want that up to date if you anticipate conflict with resulting casualties.
We’ll know it’s true, when he gets relieved
It almost seems like this document was a rough draft that the General intended to polish up before issuing the final version, and somehow somebody had access to it and made it public.
@92HazelMocha
Жыл бұрын
You gotta hope so, my thoughts are that someone in his office read it, said "what the actual f*ck" and leaked it.
@malekodesouza7255
Жыл бұрын
Possibly.
@darthcadeaus8254
Жыл бұрын
Considering that the header is cut off where a classification would likely sit in every picture I’ve seen, I wouldn’t be surprised.
I was an active duty Marine in the 1980's. The greatest field grade/general grade officers I ever met never spoke with this kind of inhumanity. We fought for the love of our country and the love of our corps but the only joy we got from killing the enemy was the realization that it was either we destroy them or they destroy us. We were never encouraged to think recklessly and we were the damn jarheads! Leave it to an Air Force transport pilot to be a keyboard bully.
@edfleming9600
Жыл бұрын
Semper Fi!
@edfleming9600
Жыл бұрын
Semper Paratus! from me
@Frankie5Angels150
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that’s the takeaway. Keep fitting the square pegs into round holes while the Air Force assures total air supremacy in order for the grunts to make mistakes and still recover.
@Frankie5Angels150
Жыл бұрын
The only thing we can all agree with is that this letter should never have been published. The rest goes along with “May God have mercy on our enemy, because I won’t…” It’s bravado.
@mkvv5687
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it does seem incongruous. OTOH, when I first saw teh t-shirts and patches off-base in Okinawa, "Kill everyone, let God sort them out", I never saw a zoomie wearing one.
I was thinking exactly that, Dr. Strangelove. Only thing that memo was missing was a request for Rain Water and Grain Alcohol. "Now why don't you just take it easy, Group Captain, and please make me a drink of grain alcohol and rainwater, and help yourself to whatever you'd like."
I’d only seen the “China in 2025” headlines. This is first I’d seen the entire memo. I’m very attentive to the Taiwan thing. This from a Four Star. Carries some weight. Loose cannon? Troubling on several levels. Thank you so much Ward and Bryan McGrath.
@tomboldway7274
Жыл бұрын
Never should have been written
As a old Marine, This is my kind of General.
@realMaverickBuckley
Жыл бұрын
How do 2 Nuclear Hyperpowers go to war without fucking the world for the other 200 countries? Plus, which side is not Pro Trans kids ?
@realWARPIG
Жыл бұрын
All these handwringing pussies in the comments are why we might actually lose the next war.
Excellent conversation. Great work
"Mini" was my Group Commander years ago. He was a good guy and always gave it to you straight. Though I disagree with how he did this, it may be a good idea to pay attention.
Great conversation. Clearest commentary on this situation I've seen anywhere.
I'm glad Ward got the reference to Gen. Ripper (from the movie Dr. Strangelove by Stanley Kubrick) in there, and I just hope others watching this video understood it as well. One important lesson from that movie is how, in this day and age of modern war, it is possible for one man to set off a world wide cataclysm, engulfing the entire globe in mutually assured annihilation and destruction. I'm just surprised there was no reference to fluoride in Gen. Monihan's letter.
@AA-xo9uw
Жыл бұрын
Maybe Minihan included one in his.
@Frankie5Angels150
Жыл бұрын
Jack D Ripper was a general in Dr. Strangelove, but he was played by Sterling Hayden, a no-kidding OSS operator and door kicker in WWII.
@bryanjackson8917
Жыл бұрын
@@Frankie5Angels150 yeah you're right, he was a general in that movie. I didn't have time go back and check, so I just went with my gut on that one!
@octaviocuesta1155
Жыл бұрын
Purity of Essence!!
@johnrusac6894
Жыл бұрын
@@octaviocuesta1155 Before killing enemy in combat, he did not neglect his marital duties to his wife.. But he did deny her his essence.
We need to send China a clear message that we’re serious and are planning for what China clearly intends to do with Taiwan. Maybe he skied over his tips with the memo, but we need to let China know we’re not asleep at the switch.
@johnsullivan8673
Жыл бұрын
No, we need to tone it down. A lot. We’re going to reach cuban missile crisis levels of DUMB soon.
@xsu-is7vq
Жыл бұрын
I think US had already delivered the message and it was already received by China. Hence the unprecedented airforce and navy buildup by PLA since WWII US military buildup.
@sjpavur
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree!!
Thanks for breaking down this memo. Great discussion.
I’ve flown with and worked for Gen Minihan. He’s the real deal. A crew dog, a leader, a warrior. None better to work for or be lead by. One of the good ones made it to where he needs to be. Beyond proud. Wish I was younger…..
@WardCarroll
Жыл бұрын
Good to hear, Dutch.
@SoggyBigfoot
Жыл бұрын
@@WardCarroll I can attest to this as well. Only general I've met that cared to interact with the new Lts (which I was at the time I met him)
@havoc130gaming3
Жыл бұрын
I flew with him a couple times as a loadmaster in Iraq/Afghanistan circa 2004 when he was our Squadron Commander. I vouch for this, he is great. He took the time to get to know you, you weren't just some name on a set of orders.
"Change of command without a band." Priceless.
@mikemorgan5015
Жыл бұрын
There could still be a flyover, though, with the departing commander aboard........
@NickMackenzieMD
Жыл бұрын
Maybe Ward should consider Standup on a USO tour. Very funny.
@mikemorgan5015
Жыл бұрын
@@NickMackenzieMD That's an old and widely used term across the military when a commander gets relieved. Still funny though.
Thanks for the video, gentlemen.
I appreciated the perspectives!
Pretty standard commanders intent-for the Marines not so much for the USAF. However its really a “war warning” message to the troops so it speaks in a language they understand. It seems shocking for non-Marines in an era of touchy-feely DOD
You can tell something is up... All the service branches have increased the maximum age of enlistment and are loosening requirements for enlistment. Like Putin is finding out, you cannot just start drafting people and have them action ready in short-order; there is always a lag in preparation and, increasingly, technical training. Very quietly, the US armed forces are expanding their recruiting so that manpower is on the rise ahead of...2024/25?
Outstanding, thank you both.
Thanks again Ward! Thank you Bryan!
"Change of Command with out a band" is an apt comment. I think that the General's memo was his swan song.
@benjaminperez7328
Жыл бұрын
Yep. “Invited to retire” His papers are being fast-tracked as we speak.
@philslaton7302
Жыл бұрын
The catch phrase is "Loss of Confidence."
@benjaminperez7328
Жыл бұрын
@@philslaton7302 For the good of the Service.
@philslaton7302
Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminperez7328 Now, that is the catch-all phrase.
Only the USAF would use “loving” in a war warning order. 😅
@stevemabrey8069
Жыл бұрын
DEI training overdose!!!
@MrJdsenior
Жыл бұрын
Depends, you should treat your equipment lovingly...keep those weapons in tip top shape! :-)
Sure glad you 2 are on our side!!
Again thanks for the video and your service
That quote about killing enemies makes your marriage better is directly from the Killology training. They have been training law enforcement that for like 20 years.
@josephgriffin2388
Жыл бұрын
Well... that and the IDF (Isreali Defense Forces), training our urban police forces for years on end.
@bighands69
Жыл бұрын
@@josephgriffin2388 Just make up the best crap you can to support your antisemitism.
@j.f.fisher5318
Жыл бұрын
Is that where the Kentucky State Police training deck was drawing from?
@Rampant16
Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought. In the context of law enforcement it's plain insidious to try to train police officers to enjoy killing civilians. In the context Air Force cargo haulers its just moronic. The utility of AMC is not in the bloodlust and pistol proficiency of aircrews.
I was going to ask if that is a typical memo a General would bestow his subordinates with, but that question sort of got answered later on. 😅
@bighands69
Жыл бұрын
It is not absolutely not typical or normal. It is clearly the words of a general that realizes what is going to happen down the line. China is getting read for war and there is going to be events inside China that will push them over the edge and do something crazy. We are on the brink of WW3 and everybody knows it.
I had a friend in the Navy whose brother was a Marine in Vietnam, who was a 60 gunner. He confessed to his brother on his deathbed that nothing in his life made him feel so alive as Killing Charlie. He asked how many, and his brother said "hundreds." That messed with my friend for a while. I can see what the General is going for, but I can also see why most everyone else was horrified.
@DefinitelyNotEmma
Жыл бұрын
Charlie?
@lucioordo3647
Жыл бұрын
@Definitely not Emma it's the nickname given to North Vietnamese soldiers during the war
@medeliworld
Жыл бұрын
How many Vietnam Vets are still suffering from the trauma of that war.
@DefinitelyNotEmma
Жыл бұрын
@@lucioordo3647 Ah, thanks for the explanation
@flatpat2988
Жыл бұрын
The guy is a General and called a Magazine a clip?
“Change of Command without a band.” 😂
Shooting center of mass of a near peer enemy with a side arm is a complete waste of time. He isn't talking about self defense. The most basic of body armor or even just a duty vest with gear in it is capable of stopping 9mm. That being said, pelvic shots are far more likely to be effective than missing a small target like a head.
@chuckschillingvideos
Жыл бұрын
The notion of side arms being useful for anything other than guarding prisoners is absurd.
@doyouwanttogivemelekiss3097
Жыл бұрын
In a top level order this isn't about shooting armored chinese infantry - it is about conveying the message that the next war isn't asymmetric, it is going to be a near peer fight, where we can expect massive casualties. This is not saying we can't win, it just means that it is essential to prepare right now, and that the fight is going to be tough, should it ever come to that.
This guy is an Airline CEO in a Blue Suit talking like a Marine company commander!
Good vid. Liked the Substack too
19:39 Great discussion👍🏼
I don't know whether to be terrified or embarrassed (or both) that someone at that level of command would refer to a magazine as a "clip."
@traumateaminternational4732
Жыл бұрын
Nonsense, I'm sure he's just referring to those M1 Garands pilots have been carrying around as sidearms lately.
@chuckschillingvideos
Жыл бұрын
Don't be. Generals don't get to being generals because they are the brightest guys in the room. They get to be generals by being the best politicians.
@TurboHappyCar
Жыл бұрын
That was a big facepalm from me too.
@bobsagget823
Жыл бұрын
ok gamer
@j.f.fisher5318
Жыл бұрын
@@bobsagget823 yeah seriously never heard anyone get a hard on over the difference until maybe a few years ago. Though technically accurate it seems like usual online gatekeeping b.s. to me.
Aim for the head may be in response to the anticipation of Chinese soldier's use of body armor. Shots directed to normal center of mass will not be effective on body armor, especially from 9mm sidearms. The US Army just approved a new primary weapon replacing the M4 &5.56mm ammo, with new more powerful ammunition in response to China being able to equip its ground forces with body armor. In the past wars in Iraq in Afghanistan our ground troops did not face adversaries with body armor, so center of mass shots was much more effective in stopping the enemy. I believe the Generals verbiage was intended to impress upon his airmen how much better equipped and trained the Chinese military will be when compared to what they faced in Iraq and Afghanistan. The memo should have been classified.
@BravoCheesecake
Жыл бұрын
Precisely. This retired admiral seems to be completely out of the loop.
@jimmyd1337
Жыл бұрын
Not quite true the 6.8 is to defeat plates yes. But also because 556 is outranged by 7.62, mainly 762x54r from a PKM. Its the same reason 7.62x51 rifles started being used such as the Scar H in Afghan
@BravoCheesecake
Жыл бұрын
@@jimmyd1337 Standard issue on maritime ships is normally M-4 carbine shooting 5.56
@chuckschillingvideos
Жыл бұрын
Head shots are extremely difficult to make at anything beyond room range because it's a small target and people are constantly bobbing their noggins around.
@rallyfan1992
Жыл бұрын
@@chuckschillingvideos and most of the crews have pistols. Making it even harder.
Great interview
I honestly thought this was a sketch till near the end, but I am from the UK and we breathe sarcasm🇬🇧🇺🇲 I expect the General will be flying crates of rubber dog💩 out of Hong Kong by the end of the week😎😃
Little recommendation, Mooch. Sometimes after a KZread video is done uploading it's still compiling some data. Usually it's visual, so graphics are pretty bad at first, but sometimes it's with audio. When I upload something I usually set it to "Private" or "Unlisted" and then change that to public after 24 hrs or so
General Minihan flew slick Hercs. The image you used was of an HC-130P Combat King SAR Herc
This is frivolous, but I really REALLY like your guests watch. Any info on what it is would be appreciated. Moving on, great content again, I really think your channel keeps getting better all the time...
@NickMackenzieMD
Жыл бұрын
I noticed the watch as well and I really have never paid any attention to someone's watch before.
such interesting comments...thank you very much.
Having only been trained (full time law enforcement, thankfully with no actual gunfights) to use a pistol in both offensive and defensive incidents, the move towards training headshots is absolutely correct. With the criminal element (and in this case, enemy combatants/soldiers) using body armor more frequently , a headshot (when using "just" a pistol) is almost always guaranteed to stop the lethal threat from the enemy/opposition. When a pistol is the only available option, as would most likely be the case with a downed pilot/aircrew, headshots are an effective option to protect their lives and terminate the enemies ability to endanger our people.
I imagine McArthur, Patton, or Sherman would have approved of this memo.
@preachers4135
Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@bighands69
Жыл бұрын
The General most certain is taking all of this very seriously which corresponds with the US deploying troops to the region and getting ready. Something seems to be coming and people sense that it is.
@TheOriginalFaxon
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely they would have. None of this mamby pamby shooting them in the chest because it's easy nonsense! We shoot for the head and we make it count! American exceptionalism dammit! We're the best!
@Typexviiib
Жыл бұрын
@@johnjohn5797 I meant my comment as an endorsement. Us military leadership used to take pride in using this kind of language.
@Bleilock1
Жыл бұрын
@@johnjohn5797 youbseem like a successful brain wash experiment
Great video. Thanks
Great job Ward ... CDR McGrath took the words right out of my mouth - this sounds like the Gen Ripper character of "Dr Strangelove" fame ... meaning - he is making sense while at the same time sounding a bit unhinged ... fortunately he didn't get into "precious body fluids"
Thank you both for this analysis; it is most appreciated. As a MAC pilot from years ago, I am appalled by much that was said in this memo. I’m all for readiness and sharpening the edge, but my impression is that this General wants to be Robin Olds but is channeling Gen. Jack Ripper much more closely. Far from being a readiness or morale booster, I think the net result will be lots of WTF conversations at squadron levels, training accidents, and lack of confidence in leadership.
@Pumpkinblimp
Жыл бұрын
The General is thinking F-4 and he's got KC-135's...... Don't let him near a BUF! (-:
@bighands69
Жыл бұрын
The general is saying what most people simply do not want to say out loud but they know it to be the case. China is getting ready for war but does not have the guts to follow through with it but circumstances from within China will force their hand and they will start a war in that region to try and gain control of the pacific. The biggest problem with all of this from a Chinese prospective is that they do not have a naval culture.
@alankordzikowski7670
Жыл бұрын
This memo also may backfire with retention. Our Air Force is the smallest it’s ever been, and I don’t know if this will help recruiting and retention.
Honestly? As a Marine Vet, it gives me relief that an air force officer has the balls to be tough. The airforce doesn't have a reputation of being tough. It's made fun of by the other three branches for being so soft you do your physical training tests on electric bicycles. It's not just 'right' to my ears to hear such motivating, aggressive language, but encouraging because maybe the Airforce isn't so weak after all.
@92HazelMocha
Жыл бұрын
I've had the privilege of working with airforce PJ'S and JTAC's and jokes aside, these guys carry their weight.
@Zerpentsa6598
Жыл бұрын
You and a few others here confirm that the US is irredeemably nuts.
@cptmiche
Жыл бұрын
@Persimon Sensitivity doesn't win wars. Cold, calculated decisions that destroy the enemy do. There's no room for weakness.
@batchelerjr
Жыл бұрын
I got marines all around me. I see your point,however our airforce is the most lethal it's ever been. They have some scary shit out now. That'll save the lives of all 3 other branches. So....let's call them very smart nerds. Thanks for being in the military. Hooraah!
@bullpup33
Жыл бұрын
Lots of grunts have been saved by the USAF. More airman were lost over the skies of Europe than Marines in the pacific. Remember in the end we all 9n the same team.
Thanks for the heads up general! But we have been preparing for y'all for the last 3 decades! Better bring your best game.
Thanks for your cool headed leadership insights. Outstanding.
First, he’s Air Force. My experience was that AF people tended to talk classified info that we in NSG would never discuss outside secured spaces. It also seems that protecting classified materials doesn’t have the same priority that was the norm in our day.
@concilium1
Жыл бұрын
Rapid Dragon is public knowledge. Dropping drones isn’t much of a secret.
I can barely believe this is real, as you said, strong General Ripper vibes, "your food will taste better" (if consumed only with distilled rainwater or pure grain alcohol)
@randymichel459
Жыл бұрын
Gotta protect those precious bodily fluids…
Informative
I am glad someone is paying attention
The memo reminds me of something George Patton could have written. We all know what the 3rd Army did for us in Europe, and what happened to George in the end.
@edstuff1198
Жыл бұрын
George Patton was a bad ass combat commander, not a gas passer flying in circles at 20,000". I doubt that Minihan ever killed anything except maybe a bug with the bottom of his highly polished shoe.
@syjiang
Жыл бұрын
=) I was about to say.
Where is Peter Sellers when you need him
@hawkeye681
Жыл бұрын
Did this guy lose his essence already? Did he confiscate all radios yet?
@MrJamlee88
Жыл бұрын
POE
@grp7112
Жыл бұрын
Pour me a glass of grain alcohol and rain water, will ya?
@hawkeye681
Жыл бұрын
@@MrJamlee88 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🥃🥃🥃
Back in our day, and by that I mean we are all in the same age group. The ship's secretary was the one who usually managed, proof read, and made changes to all correspondence written by the old man. This was usually a CWO3 Yeoman with a multitude of years experience. I know my old warrant on the Nimitz would have thought this General had lost his mind.
And, Ward, I always find your blurted out "asides" hilarious.
Aim for the head being pushed maybe because these solders wear body armor, past conflicts they did not.
The reality of us having an impending battle with China is becoming more real everyday. The more we understand this and ready ourselves the better. China is not sitting around twiddling their thumbs. Xi has ordered his military to be ready to overtake Taiwan by 2025. I disagree with some of the comments disparaging the generals memo. I want our soldiers to have a killer instinct. They protect your ability to enjoy your steak at the local restaurant. We forget about these freedoms sometimes. Just ask Hong Kong…..For those of you who dont know. Hong Kong was an English territory till the treaty ran out and Hong Kong was taken control of by China. Their freedoms were promptly lost and many people were imprisoned
@johnsullivan8673
Жыл бұрын
You don’t know anything about HK.
@pla_theatre_command
Жыл бұрын
An English territory? FK you guys. It was you guys and the British that took Hong Kong from us and held it for 100 years. It's NEVER YOURS to begin with. Your country is located thousands of miles away from China and yet you guys decided to sail thousands of miles to bring war to us. -------------------------------------------------- And this next war, you guys will NOT win because: The last time America fought against China in 1950, China had NO tanks, NO aircraft, NO navy, lack of artillery, lack of communications, massive ammunition problems, and massive logistical problems, POOR AF, just recently came out from TWO WARS and the Chinese was able to push the COMBINED forces of 21 UN allies, and America whom had AIR support, LOGISTICAL support, NAVAL support, TANK support, COMMUNICATION support all the way back to the 38th parallel. Keep in mind in 1950, China was at her WEAKEST PERIOD in her 5,000-year history. Considering how you guys lost against much INFERIOR adversaries in Vietnam, Somalia - Mogadishu, Cuba - Bay of Pigs, Iran (failed hostage crisis, and Afghanistan.......THIS TIME, if you think that China is going to ENTERTAIN that NONSENSE like in 1950, you will be sorely MISTAKEN. Don't bring those carrier groups over here in Asia, because it won't be like in 1950 where Chinese PEASANTS drove you guys back to the 38th parallel, because THIS TIME, YOUR NAVY will NOT be leaving Asia alive. They will DIE here. China has SUPERSONIC and HYPERSONIC missiles that WILL sink entire American carrier groups. We're not here to play these stupid little call of duty games with you. You know that war adventurism you guys love to do in places like Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan? We're NOT about that business. And considering how ACTUAL THE OFFICIAL UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT and PENTAGON have LOST ALMOST ALL of their MILITARY WAR SIMULATIONS against China IN ADDITION to American government OFFICIALS coming out saying that America would LOSE the war against China, it is HIGHLY SUGGEST, you guys DO NOT go to war against China. In EVERY single wargame simulation, the U.S navy either took horrific casualties and was force off or just outright DESTROYED.
Aim for the head is a metaphor.
Every time I think I’m maybe embellishing or being a bit dramatic in an email, I’m going to rewatch this video to remind myself that I too could someday be in upper management.
A memo like that would get many sent to manage 30 year old personnel folders. IF that is for real, someone will open an investigation into his current health. Just my take. SFC ( Ret.) Laird. 18C40
At least he’s not talking about how his troops can better serve the US by getting a sex change. Nothing would have been said about him berating his personnel for not getting the China flu shoot. He’s certainly not eloquent with his word choice but at least we might have one General that’s more concerned with preserving our Republic than polishing knobs for the next star.
“Don’t say stupid shit”, words to live by.
Oh the comment that he needed an editor is beautiful!!!
Is anybody else having problems with the audio on this?
@blackmanta96
Жыл бұрын
I have no audio
@jemilo65
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Its_Mango
Жыл бұрын
Refresh your page. Should fix it :)
@jamesharper7661
Жыл бұрын
No audio
@baruchba7503
Жыл бұрын
Refresh didn't help.
There's an extramarital affair in this thing somewhere. Possibly some over prescribed pharmaceuticals as well.
The most troubling part of the memo was orienting the plan around his expectations and demands, rather than the mission and goals. Not a whiff of team leadership here.
@jimmyonthebike194
Жыл бұрын
Ummm -- how about Xi's intentions?
@LuvBorderCollies
Жыл бұрын
Emperor Xi is frothing at the mouth for war and growing his military by leaps and bounds, including body armor. The previous knuckleheads in Chy-na loved to expel hot air. Xi is flipping serious. Why else did he "arrange" to become "president for life"?? So he could keep his promise to conquer Taiwan.
I just finished “Punk’s War”. It started off rough, but once I was calibrated, I enjoyed it tremendously. I can just see the playing out. I spent 30+ years active duty with USMC. I as comfortable with the dialogue, with a nervous chuckle.
As a troop, this is a dope memo and I really got a sense of mission and urgency out of it at a time when the US military is meandering. A force focused on a specific threat is going to train harder and more precisely.
@williamh.gatesiii8183
Жыл бұрын
I know these two guys are total Sissy's they want war to be prissy and soft and don't understand the repercussions
@benjaminperez7328
Жыл бұрын
“Dope” FFS.
@A_J502
Жыл бұрын
Riiight, what’s the mission exactly?
@DeathBlossom867
Жыл бұрын
@@A_J502 I think GEN Minihan articulated it pretty specifically.
@A_J502
Жыл бұрын
@@DeathBlossom867 Get ready for a fight at the first island ring is not an effective, accurate, specific, or precise mission statement.
This memo was meant for Wing commanders and above only. Believe it or not but it was inadvertently sent out to all in AMC. There's more to it - MG23 is a biannual exercise that AMC hosts. It's not part of the JEP. AMC has an identity crisis - we're typically the supporting command (the Air portion of TRANSCOM), but there was a long culture of AMC (and MAC before that) being the guys running around with a plastic spoon in their flight suits pocket to eat their inflight lunch. In the last few years there's been a hard push to make AMC the "tip of the spear". We do a lot of good in AMC and we get some really good lessons learned from MG type exercises, but we're not "tip of the spear", although i do agree in the need to change the culture in AMC. Just need to keep it realistic.
"You will be governed by the principle of calculated training risk...." Paraphrase of/crib from Nimitz's orders to Spruance before Midway....
They don't have a clue what they are going against or what is coming their way.