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@LoC28C

6 ай бұрын

No there would be no records of ZhengHe's voyage to the America's or even Australasia because all his records were deleted by the Emperor after YongLe

@carmenortiz5294

6 ай бұрын

As I mentioned in my comment. Columbus NEVER claimed to have discovered any thing, he had old maps, that had been part of the collection of the Library of Alexandria. They showed part of the coast of what is now the US. He was going to the Caribbean, where he stayed since he found what he was looking for. He knew the planet was NOT flat. lol

@fkoff7649

6 ай бұрын

YOU CHINESE GUYS LIKE TO CLAIM EVERYTHING YOU CAN'T EVEN CLAIM YOUR CHINA CORONA VIRUS. EVERYTHING CHINA CLAIMS IS AS FAKE AS THEIR MAN MADE ISLANDS IN TERRITORIES THAT DONT BELONG TO THEM AND AS UNRELIABLE AS THEIR MADE IN CHINA PRODUCTS.

Another thing worth noting is the fleet of Zheng He with 28000 men mostly military was vastly stronger than military of any countries along his route. However none of the countries were invaded or conquered, instead, diplomatic relations were established and he ferried diplomats through and fro on each of his voyage, diplomats bring along gifts to the emperor of China and the emperor also give them gifts in return. It is not in the culture of Chinese to conquer others and history have proven it. Modern day Western nations have demonize the Chinese and spread fear of their rise. The Chinese however will prove once again that they are not interested in conquest.

@jackiefrKL

6 ай бұрын

BEST COMMENT 👍👍👍👍

@user-qw2oh4zq1h

6 ай бұрын

Wrong, he subjugated a mutiny from his Ming subjecy off Java sea and he did going to war with King of Ceylon

@WORLDPEACE2628

6 ай бұрын

because Chinese at that time lacked the technology to conquer others!

@jaimelaw1

6 ай бұрын

The dynamic of who participated in the voyages was very fluid during Zheng He's period. Not only did military men travel with the fleet, but also many men with diplomatic and scientific roles whom were performing their duties and mission -- traveling to the ends of the world communicating the ascension of its new emperor and therefore the start of a new era. Columbuse's Santa Maria was four times smaller than Zheng He's treasure ships (in which "treasures" were brought back to China as tribute) and more a keen to a commercial vessel from a foreign country that would have traveled along Zheng He's fleet for protection and/or exchange, including Arab seafarers and other nations who engage in trade.

@nianpinglee5468

6 ай бұрын

@@WORLDPEACE2628at that time there are no need for so many technologies for conquering.

Very interesting. I believe the Chinese also visited Northern Australia before the British.

@Zerpentsa6598

6 ай бұрын

Yes, but the Chinese did not colonise or kill the natives.

@honeynfred

6 ай бұрын

@@Zerpentsa6598 very true. I believe they traded with them.

@ColoniaMurder20

6 ай бұрын

nah Indian Civilization have been dominated entire Southeast Asia region even one of Queen from Polynesian were descendant from Chola dynasty from India. and Austronesian people in Maritime Southeast Asia were under sphere of influenced from Indian Civilization and also been traded with aboriginal people in Australia and many Pacific Islander are descendant from Austronesian poeple. and not to mention Chola dynasty from India was largest Maritime Empire in Asia follow by Srivijaya Empire from Austronesian people.

@pustakarileks7404

6 ай бұрын

​@@ColoniaMurder20What the fruck are you damn it prindapan peoples! Indianized SE Asia just western part (java, sumatra, borneo for limitation), while central and eastern indonesia are not indianized at all! However indonesia influenced by india, they are very different, hinduism just aplied for the kings and warriors, the civilians aren't they still believe in austronesian believes. The king use indian caste in order to build kingdom hierarchy system, just it! The very first people except melanesian who explore the north australia is The Macassan and Bugis from Sulawesi (Central Indonesia)

@ColoniaMurder20

6 ай бұрын

@@pustakarileks7404 have you heard Kingdom of Tondo, Cebu and Butuan were pre dominant Hindu and Buddhism culture? here in the PH we have many ancient gold artifacts related to Indian Civilization and we have many loan words from Sankrit and oldest scriptures found in Luzon dated back 1100 years ago was related to Indian writing system.

I mean I have no clue but that's possible, we already know for sure that the Vikings also did it before Columbus. Even the Polynesians were already colonizing the Pacific islands thousands of years ago before anyone else figured out sailing. We know they went all the way to Hawaii, so why not the American West Coast. Our modern view of history was written primarily by European white guys, so there's probably some bias and missing information in there.

@jackiefrKL

6 ай бұрын

Yellow-men, Brown-men, Black-men not allowed to write History, 'White-men Only' says the Sign Board!!!

@huiyu6739

6 ай бұрын

During the Ming Dynasty, a large number of European missionaries copied Chinese classics and passed them back to their own countries. Many European stories and classics were very similar to those in China. After civil strife and corruption, the Han people had their country stolen by the Manchus, and they no longer had complete prestige and dignity, can unscrupulously appropriate their culture.

@270yis7

6 ай бұрын

It's also because the earlier visitors didn't stick around, destroy, or build anything. They visited, maybe met the natives and traded with them a bit, and then went home. The Europeans that started arriving in the late 1400s not only stuck around, but destroyed and built a lot. They radically altered a status quo that had been in place for millennia, for better or worse.

@mrhdebater1607

6 ай бұрын

No real evidence of the "Vikings" as discoverers let alone discovered America.

@rais1953

6 ай бұрын

@@270yis7 You must be wrong. Our USA friends say everything Chinese is copied from them. Why China has even copied the high speed trains the USA hasn't built yet!

Also if you want to get technical, the Vikings, Chinese and even potentially some Pacific Islanders all 'discovered' America before Columbus bumbled into the Caribbean

@josephwu3136

6 ай бұрын

Vikings are a myth lol exaggerated by Anglo saxons

@Sleepyboi2

6 ай бұрын

I always find it funny how people bring up these tidbits of info. Like it’s always cool to know new stuff like this but… what came from this contact? Columbus at least enticed a bunch of the other European nations to get there.

@ColoniaMurder20

6 ай бұрын

I dont think so.. one of Polynesian Queen was descendant from Chola dynasty from India. and Guam, Palau, Hawaii are related to Austronesian people in Maritime Southeast Asia people.

@mohamedgoldstein5565

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, but columbus controlled the media.

@mrhdebater1607

6 ай бұрын

Not the "Vikings". Pure fairtale to stay relevant in world history.

Your Thoughts on the Chinese discovering America is quite feasible, I live in Australia and we have discovered two Chinese Junks of the coast of Western Australia about 2500km apart the Junks date around 1,500 years ago, to further help solidify this the some Australia Aboriginals peoples do have Chinese DNA in them as well. so anything is possible.

Calling Zheng he china's Columbus is a crime. Columbus was an insane genocidal maniac. Who upto his death thought he was conquering Asia (for most of his rampage, he thought he was in China. Despite being repeately corrected.)

@revolutionaryhamburger

6 ай бұрын

Wow. Wait until you learn something about Chinese history. The Chinese make Columbus look like a compassionate Christian choir boy who converted the cannibals to kindness. Clearly, your prejudiced view is a product of government schooling.

@natterlynabob1472

6 ай бұрын

Columbus had no more idea where he was than a shipwrecked Chinese sailor.

@revolutionaryhamburger

6 ай бұрын

@@natterlynabob1472 So, are you saying it was almost like Columbus was sailing into the unknown? Like Columbus as boldly going where no man had gone before? Like he was a great explorer or something? It's almost as if you are implying he was the discoverer of a New World.

@natterlynabob1472

6 ай бұрын

Columbus learned that there was land out there, because of the time he spent in Portugal. The Portuguese were already trading in Brazil, but they tried to keep it secret. That is why Portuguese king refused Columbus' request for a fleet to explore to the west. However Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain were eager to learn whatever it was that the Portuguese were doing across the Atlantic. Columbus put 2+2 together and made 5 when he decided that the other side of the Atlantic was China. Before Columbus returned from his first voyage, the Portuguese were already negotiating to divide the earth into two zones: half for Portugal and half for Spain. Columbus claimed he had reached China, but he had not. That is why the Spanish justly put him in jail. @@revolutionaryhamburger

@revolutionaryhamburger

6 ай бұрын

@@natterlynabob1472 I think you are right about everything except you left of the underlying influence of the ancient Atlantic crossing cod fishermen. My only interest here is in debunking that malignant Marxist Howard Zinn's bullshit take on Columbus. Most Americans who went to government schools reflexively vomit Zinn's bogus bile when to comes to Columbus. History was a bit more complex than most moronic Marxists maintain.

The more I learn about the Chinese, the more I am amazed. Awesome video.

What was not mentioned is that Columbus bought a map that purportedly showed the route to the land beyond the Atlantic Ocean. That's why Columbus was so confident he'll find land. The map was supposedly a copy of a map from China, according to the person who sold it to him. Also, when Zheng he returned from his last voyage, he was ordered to burn the fleet, burn the fleet historian's records, and execute the historian. If Zheng-He did reached the American continent, they were ordered never to speak of it, upon pain of death.

@Leviathan500

6 ай бұрын

source?

@jesussonofgod6284

6 ай бұрын

​@@Leviathan500You ask, if you have a brain you can think logically, just put aside the debate and start using your brain, if Columbus didn't discover America because there were already native people there.Namely Indian..

@oddish2253

6 ай бұрын

Indians?

@cac1504

6 ай бұрын

Columbus is basically a pirate authorised by his king to conquer other nations for wealth.

@sarahcesar5813

6 ай бұрын

​@@oddish2253... The Red Indians...

Columbus may be the first European to discover the land of the First Nation people, that the Europeans called America, after Amerigo Vespucci. But it's erroneous to say Columbus is the first to discover the land considering the continent had been inhabited for millenia by millions of people of various tribes and had even had contact with Asians. Also worth noting is that the Asians and the First Nation people in the American continent are closely resembled together in facial features. It is not surprising that the Chinese also had settlement in that continent even before those Europeans. This planet's world history is biased to the achievements of the Europeans regarding world exploration.

@Oysters176

Ай бұрын

Polynesians discovered America. Not the Chinese. Polynesians. And they didn't even go deep enough to get the potato, or maize, they got the sweet potato.

From DNA investigation around the world it is proven that there is a tribe in the east of Africa who have DNA with chinese characteristics although they look African. They also have legends about people from the “Middle Kingdom” who came to east Africa. The stories tell also that Zheng He went around cape of good hope in the southern tip of Africa heading west which would land him at the American continent. As the purpose of Zheng He’s journeys was to find other “kingdoms” and asked for a tribute it is logical that the civilization in the American continent at that time did not impress him at all. The legend says that Zheng He reported that there was no other kingdom more powerful than the Middle Kingdom. This was the reason for the Qing dynasty to abandon their powerful navy after Zheng He’s death.

@nianpinglee5468

6 ай бұрын

Zheng He is man of the story about sailor Simbads journey .辛巴達航海記辛巴達就是三寶。

@philiptan2051

6 ай бұрын

@@nianpinglee5468 hahaha… it is the first time somebody says that Zheng He is the story of sinbad. Wow, man you are really confused. Sinbad is from the Arabian night story from Persia, a totally different story. Where did you get this link from? From a cartoon on American tv?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Anonymous------

6 ай бұрын

​@@philiptan2051 Sinbad's stories first emerged in the 18th and 19th centuries. The stories highlight the growing tendency of Arab and Muslim sailor exploration of the world. Zheng He was a great-great-great-grandson of Sayyid Ajjal Shams al-Din Omar, who served in the administration of the Mongol Empire and was the governor of Yunnan during the early Yuan dynasty. Shams al-Din was of Central Asian Aryan origin, being a Muslim Khwarezmian from Bukhara (in present-day Uzbekistan). When Genghis Khan attacked the city during the war between the Khwarizmi Shah and the Mongols, Sayyid Ajall Shams al-Din Omar's family surrendered to him. He was allegedly descended from Ali ibn Abi Talib and the Prophet, Sayyid Ajall's father was Kamāl al-Dīn and his grandfather was Shams al-Dīn 'Umar al-Bukhārī. According to Marshall Broomhall, Shams al-Din, "who was a native of Bokhara, is said to have been a descendant of Mohammed (twenty-seventh generation)." --------------------------------------- Present Y chromosomes support the Persian ancestry of Sayyid Ajjal Shams al-Din Omar and Eminent Navigator Zheng He Sayyid Ajjal is the ancestor of many Muslims in areas all across China. And one of his descendants is the famous Navigator of Ming Dynasty, Zheng He, who led the largest armada in the world of 15th century. The origin of Sayyid Ajjal's family remains unclear although many studies have been done on this topic of Muslim history. In this paper, we studied the Y chromosomes of his present descendants, and found they all have haplogroup L1a-M76, proving a southern Persian origin. arXiv:1310.5466 [Submitted on 21 Oct 2013] arXiv is a community-supported resource funded by Cornell University, the Simons Foundation.

@kimduong2332

6 ай бұрын

Ming dynasty not Qing.

@philiptan2051

6 ай бұрын

@@kimduong2332 you didn’t listen to the video narrative nor you know the history of China. Zheng He lived under the Ming dynasty but the Qing dynasty who came after the Ming abandoned the navy as the emperor didn’t see the purpose of a strong navy.

Zheng he traded in Africa 100 years before Columbus’s grandpa even born. Chinese voyage and trade but never colonize

I had a neighbor who was a Hong Kong boat person. She told me exactly how they survived the voyage. First of all young healthy people can survive without fresh water. They took along pigs and chickens and grew vegetables on board for food. Europeans were so slow to get here, because they used salted meat for food, and so they could not survive long voyages drinking seawater. And the Kuroshio (Japanese) current will sweep anything at sea off the Asian coast and deposit it somewhere along the west coast of America. All it takes is a raft. The first emperor Chin Shih Huang Ti was recorded as complaining of the many colonizing expeditions he sent into the Pacific that never returned. They were searching for the herb of immortality and sometimes known to be swept away by the current. American Ginseng is still highly prized in China. And then there is 1776 when Father Serra brought the Catholic faith to California. He built a church at in an arroyo and it washed out. The friendly Shoshone Indians guided the Spanish to a place zoned for foreigners. It was called Yang Na, which means sunnyside village in Chinese. The Spanish renamed it El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora de Los Angeles. The Chinese were trading there before the Spanish. And you didn't mention the Battle of Canton in 1279 which finished off the Sung dynasty. They lost their country, but the fleet remained. They had paddle wheeled ships with iron armor. They threw their obese eight year old emperor overboard and sailed off into the Pacific, never to be seen again. Then there are the familiar totem poles characteristic of Indians in the Pacific Northwest. These represent the ancestors of the living indians. The ancestor worshiping Chinese had similar poles. Wealthy Chinese made totem poles of brass that still exist. For many centuries China was the most technologically advanced civilization on the planet. Have a look at "Science and Civilization in China" by Joseph Needham. It is very convincing.

@zach5025

6 ай бұрын

Yang Na is a Tongva word. They are a tribe who live in Southern California. It sounds Chinese, but it isn't.

@natterlynabob1472

6 ай бұрын

Well, I looked on a map, and there is also a town called "Yang Na" in China. There are other cases where Chinese have been mistaken for Indians. For example in the book "Columbia River to the Sacramento" which is an account of the 1839-42 US Navy expedition to California a camera obscura drawing is labeled "Sacramento Indians gambling", but it is obviously three Chinese tourists casting the I-Ching. The oldest Chinese temple in California is located nearby in Marysville. Charles Wilkes, U.S.N, "Columbia River to the Sacramento" Biobooks 1958, Oakland CA. You probably can't find this book anywhere, but I digitized a copy from a local library. I can send you a copy if you are interested. @@zach5025

@eatdabutt

6 ай бұрын

India was more advanced scientifically.

@eatdabutt

6 ай бұрын

​@@zach5025Exactly what is "chinese" Do you mean Cantonese? Or Mandarin? There's no language called "Chinese" bud..

@zach5025

6 ай бұрын

@@eatdabutt Mandarin

i think it's only Zhenghe and the emperor who were interested in the expedition. so technically, if nobody else bothers, no one could have kept the knowledge.

The 1421 map of China is more complicated than just a piece of paper. The map shown is not the original but a Qing Dynasty copy a few centuries after. Place names may have updated to the convention of the Qing Dynasty such as 高丽 (Gaoli) for Korea instead of the more common name 朝鲜 (Chaoxian or Joseon in Korean). The source map may have hidden away somewhere in China or simply lost or destroyed. During the early years of the Ming Dynasty, the Mongols were defeated and an army general founded a new dynasty. As with tradition, his eldest son succeeded him as the 2nd Emperor of the Ming. His younger brother Zhudi was unhappy and took the throne for himself. He also sent his favorite Eunuch Zhenghe on 7 epic voyages to extend China's influence abroad. There were a few hundred treasure ships involved in the expeditions. We're not talking about 3 ships Columbus had so the treasure ships can separate into groups and sail in different parts of the world for surveying (mapping) purposes. The voyages were intended to bring back tribute from foreign lands than trade and establishing colonies like the Europeans later. They were too costly so the next Emperor Xuande granted Zhenghe permission for the last voyage. After that China closed its doors to the outside and all the maps destroyed to discourage people from leaving the country. Some people may have hidden maps in secret to avoid trouble. A number of years ago a professor of Chinese descent at the U of Pennsylvania Dr. SL Lee purchased a medallion from the natives in N. Carolina with the stamp of the Ming Emperor 宣德 (Xuande) on it. Dr. Lee claims this is proof that at least 1 treasure ship from the Ming fleet landed in N. America during Zhenghe's final voyage. Sometime in the 16th century the German cartographer Martin Waldseemüller drew the first world map. At the time no European surveyed the world to the extent that would allow a world map to be made, at least not until the time of Capt. James Cook. According to someone like Gavin Menzies, the early European world maps were based on Chinese sources (or other people who mapped the world a few centuries earlier). And then there is the Piri Reis map from the Turkish Admiral with the coast of N & S America clearly shown at least a century before Columbus "discovered" the New World.

@wenliu9571

6 ай бұрын

明朝皇帝停止航海的主要原因是财政负担。 因为航海本身耗费巨大，却没有创造更多现实的价值和财富。 另外由于航海和沟通，很多国家和明朝建立了朝贡体系，这是一种贸易形式，朝贡国向宗主国送上贡品，宗主国会送更多礼物出去。这是中国人的传统，所谓礼尚往来，滴水之恩涌泉相报。 但这种贸易对中国来说并不平等，中国收到的东西通常是国内并不需要或者无法变现的，而送出去的东西都是金银和流通商品，这使得国家财政负担过重，以至于发生过国库用胡椒和香料来支付官员的薪水。 有趣的是，哥伦布和麦哲伦航海的主要目的是寻找香料。而这时的中国收到的香料太多了，使得它快持续贬值，难以变现。

@marjhuncantago9476

5 ай бұрын

to proof your comment Qin's action from falsifies and burning the documents and scrolls and creating narratives. that favor Qin Dynasty. and this is facts.

It might not be Zheng He, but the Chinese ancient classic "山海經" do content records of western Northern America coastal line, all then way from Alaska down to Mexico... That classic is more then 6000 - 8000 years old, it's not written by one person or group, but a continuous record of groups of explorers, the latest entire were done roughly around the age of warring states (475BCE - 221BCE). And base on the record of rivers and resources, it was a record done by multiple migration groups that have runner/trader groups travel between Mainland China and the Northern America frontier regularly... BTW, in the classic 山海經, it also content mentions of "Sea of black water" to the southwest, "black people with wide forehead, broad lip and strong limbs, they catch and eat live snakes" west of the black water sea, a city called BoZheBeJie not far away from Great Rift Valley (Yes, there is a entry regarding Great Rift Valley as well)... Outside of 山海經, the earliest record of Giraffe sighting by a lord is in 463BCE by 魯哀公, and a jade Platypus status were also found in China that were carved between 420CE- 589CE... So... Africa and Australia confirmed?

@tangbesitangbesi7009

6 ай бұрын

Glad to read your sharing

@wenliu9571

6 ай бұрын

郑和的航行并不久远，是确定的事实，并且有很多实质证据。山海经太久远了，难以准确考证，但它仍是可以参考的。

Zheng He actually had recorded his voyages. However, the Ming dynasty was out of money for doing a lot of building work such as building the longest canal in the world, still the longest canal today, the forbidden city, the Great Wall and the largest navy in the world at the time that Zheng He commanded. So after seven voyages, the Ming court decided to abolish the navy and burned the record because there was no things from all the other lands that China was interested and most people went on the voyages did not come back due shipwreck that of the over 20,000 people went only about 200 came back alive and it cost a lot money to build the ships.

Thanks for the information this channel is a great one very informative helps me learn more about Chinese history and culture as well as language having Chinese ancestry through my mothers side help fuel my pursuit of learning as much as I can about Chinese Culture and history and just started learning the language.

@beamazed1162

6 ай бұрын

You should go and see Sanxingdui to let you know what is the origin of civilization

@pass3d

6 ай бұрын

至少中国人没有像欧洲人那样，奴隶别人。即便是到了文明程度比当时中国低很多的非洲大陆，也没有像白人那样殖民土地。

It's very obvious the descendants of the Native Americans discovered America way before Columbus. Those People were already there when he arrived. Native Americans do look like they might share a common ancestry with Asians. So the there might be something to the "Chinese discover America theory".

@michaeljensen5615

6 ай бұрын

The Native Americans are the true discoverers of the U.S.

Another thing to note is that Zheng He had a way bigger boat and crew than Columbus 70 years before Columbus set sail. China has set foot on many lands before Columbus did, but also did not bother to conquer like Columbus did.

@marjhuncantago9476

5 ай бұрын

so stepping a foot to a foreign land means you owned it? how about the locals? do did not own anything? ,,l,,

At that time, China indeed possessed unparalleled maritime technology. However, deep-rooted local sentiments and the arrogant 'Celestial Empire' mindset unfortunately led China to miss out on the Age of Exploration. These factors were mutually reinforcing, and in history, there are no 'what ifs.' The only thing we can do is learn from the lessons, gaze at the stars, and embark on the exploration of the next Age of Discovery.

@MsFancia

6 ай бұрын

Well, I would thank for China 'arrogant we're the centre of the world mindset' rather than Europe 'arrogant I'm the most superior race mindset' everyday. At least China's arrogant mindset didn't end up the colonisation of the world and the genocide of original native population, China basically just thought they're superior but mostly they just interested in trade and didn't really bother nor care about the suppose 'inferior people' outside of their kingdom unless they threatened China; unlike Europe.

@user-rp2pi7ff6p

6 ай бұрын

Not so. What you mentioned is only superficial. Zheng He's fleet was very large and required huge logs as materials. However, China's history is too long, and the giant trees suitable for manufacturing within China have already been largely exposed to light. They have been made into magnificent buildings such as palaces. So Zheng He needs to harvest huge trees from the peripheral mountainous areas. Every giant tree requires the sacrifice of human life and enormous wealth as support. Of course, this is also one aspect of terminating navigation. Trade did not dissipate due to the Zheng He fleet. From 1567 to 1644, at least 300 million taels of silver flowed into China through trade, accounting for more than one-third of the world's silver production. The true cause of China's backwardness was the Qing Dynasty.

@maolo76

6 ай бұрын

No it was the Qing dynasty that ended China age of exploration.

@user-xm7iv9xz8e

6 ай бұрын

清朝是满族人的国家，他们一直都防着汉人，怕汉人造反就一直限制汉人研究科技

@wenliu9571

6 ай бұрын

思维方式并非主因，我认为是经济问题，航海投资耗费巨大，而带回来的商品并不能在中国创造更多的财富，随之而来的朝贡更是如此。用金银粮食和劳动力换来的长颈鹿和斑马似乎毫无价值，珍珠胡椒香料在当时的中国也并不是很稀缺和昂贵。

I think the more accurate way to describe this is "who visited first" because clearly, the Native Americans were the first to settle there. Also the europeans have the habit of claiming far away lands as their own and that they "discovered" a land even when it has already been inhabited. The europeans have this bad habit of genociding the natives and then calling the land theirs.

@mohamedgoldstein5565

6 ай бұрын

You think the Mayans flew Delta to South America? Get a grip. The present day Native Americans were just the second to last invaders who took over this land.

@dyong888

6 ай бұрын

We are talking about North Amerika. Not sure if there are as many Native Americans in the south. Definitely more in the North. Anyhow yours is a common tactic at shifting the disussion. Its a fact that wherever the anglos and some europeans went when they genocided or tried to genocide the people there and then claim the land as theirs. We are talking about recent history.... the genocides in Africa, Asia, Amerika, Australia.... all done by the anglos. Historical fact. Also history fact that China's navy gave gifts and received tribute in all the lands they sailed to. They didn't conquer or make the land theirs. This is also historical fact. China doesn't share western values of conquering, killing, looting, and genociding. China is a far more civilised society and have higher values than the west. @@mohamedgoldstein5565​

@rais1953

6 ай бұрын

Yes. There's a group of Europeans trying to genocide the native people and call the land their own in the Eastern Mediterranean right now. I don't think they realise the time when that was seen as acceptable is past.

This guy’s pronunciation of Mandarin words is superb!

@henriettasecker-shao

6 ай бұрын

i know, told him so. Perfect pronunciation. Puts me to shame. LOL!

i have studied petroglyphs for many years and i studied mandarin chinese 50 years ago in taiwan as a missionary with the mormon church. these studies complement one another as both are of pictographic origination. i saw glyphs in new mexico years ago that i thought looked like chinese characters but at the same time i was not sure. a rectangle or circle with a line down the middle could be made by both cultures for different reasons. the padres of old refered to a tribe of indians in mexico near copper canyon as the serie indians. serie is a latin word that means silk and or china and chinese people. perhaps there were reasons for this choice of nomenclatura such silken objects the indians may have possessed or other implements. perhaps they resembled chinese people. the state of chi hua hua mexico which means fireworks in local vernacular is also similar to sounds used in chinese to describe fireworks, hua meaning flowers and chi meaning energy. fireworks exploding in the sky of course look like flowers. usually a different character would be used to explain an explosion of gun powder in modern chinese but the idea is similar. i am convinced the chinese were here during the shang era and i do have reason to believe there may be proof positive in terms of hidden shafts /caves underground perhaps known to the jesuits of old, padre kino and fathers of other orders as well, accessed and located by the decipherment of petroglyphs which i have studied and hope to be able to return to soon. dr rushkamps book is a real break thru.

@user-rp2pi7ff6p

6 ай бұрын

We Chinese people are also discussing whether the "Yepoti" where monk Faxian arrived is Mexico!

I celebrate thanksgiving with a traditional Chinese hot pot meal in honor of Zheng He. It somehow feels right to do so.

@learnchinesenow

6 ай бұрын

I love that, I have celebrated Christmas with Chinese hot pot too!

没有任何国家会一直强大，中国人的思想不靠掠夺。而是发展自身。

很多人不懂汉语，懂汉语的去看坤舆万国图吧，上面大部分是郑和下西洋年间的地名和纪事，也就是140x到143x年间的，做到绘制地图，需要很大的团队，需要足够强大的政府以及真正意义上的天文航海知识，而不是几条破船加几十个海盗就能绘制全球地图，在那个年代有且只有大明国有那个能力和条件。 这个世界上原生的远古文明只有一个那就华夏，历史将在未来揭开面纱。 现在西方各大图书馆博物馆以及梵蒂冈藏有大量的中国古籍。 也只有西方的普通屁民和一些极端种族主义者才认为他们的科技来源什么古希腊，古希腊根本就是后来杜撰的，没有任何文物和气候地理条件发展天文和农业根本没可能发生什么古希腊哲学和文明。古埃及同理。

I don't know we still keep talking about this. The reason why Columbus was given the credit is he started exchanges between the two worlds. The Chinese didn't maintain visits after their discovery of the new world.

Thank you for the video ! This is wonderful! 🤗

Thanks so much for sharing this wonderful video!!! I learn more new thing every day!!!👍👏🏻👏🏻😍😍🙏🙏🙏

There have been atleast hundreds of tribes of different ethnicities that have arrived in the same places they did. The americas has been inhabited for 10,000s of years and every year the estimates keep going back further. They also arrived through a variety of different routes. You forgot to mention Leif Erickson who used old stories to navigate to america and found his own people stranded there. ~1000 ad Zheng He used an old map and legends that china had for hundreds of years. The chinese had arrived in america and mapped it way before him. ~3000 years ago

@user-oq4ze7nl2d

4 ай бұрын

this is my cat

Thank you for your research into this ❤

Great to know it Sir, Regards ❤️

This was such an interesting the video. The markings on the stones look remarkably like Seal and Bronze age scripts! Lots of love

Something you may not be aware of. California was apparently an Island at some point, because the Great Salt Lake and the Salt Flats are the remnants of the Salt Sea that separated the Rockies to the Eastern shores of California, which were the mountains along the San Andreas, where the Baja peninsula connects to the ocean. So Zheng He’s map is evidence of accuracy, rather than error.

The encyclopedia I had in the 60's explained how the native Americans were related to the Asian people. It claimed only 3 races in the world. Portuguese explorer Pinzon was well known in his country for discovering America not Columbus.

@learnchinesenow

6 ай бұрын

Well they certainly were in America before Columbus and the Chinese (if they really did discover before Columbus), but it is not known how they got there, whether they were from Asia and walked accross during the ice age, or they were just there, you are looking at like 10, 20, 30,000 years ago, so I guess when we say “discovered” we mean in the relatively recent time frame of the last 5000 years or so.

@MaxAmerica.Freedom

6 ай бұрын

The encyclopedia, which I regret selling, wrote that at first they came by the land bridge. Later, they claimed the continents were much closer and they easily sailed to America. Plate tectonics moved continents farther apart.

@MaxAmerica.Freedom

6 ай бұрын

​@@learnchinesenowThank you very much for the video 😊

Fascinating! Growing up in Ecuador, I remember seeing something about those anchors. They were found all the way into South America. It was said that it was the result of trading along the Pacific Coast, which brought about technological exchange. Having said that, I don't see much value on the similarity of the anchors. If one thinks about it, it's a very simple design, easy to make, and it clearly does the job well. To me, it'd be akin to saying that cultures are related because they all had boats that floated. No real technological leap here to use a doughnut shaped rock attached to a rope.

Tis true that Colombus gets waay too much credit, when there is much evidence that there were many visits to the New World from the Old. Egyptians, Carthagians, Baques ,and Vikings all have left evidences of their crossings of the Atlantic. There is much genetic evidence that Polynesians made it across the Pacific to South America multiple times. It makes sense that over the millennia, a civilization like the Chinese would have sent out various expeditions.

Fascinating stories. Thanks for sharing 👍👍👍

@legpol

6 ай бұрын

The Chinese Zheng He's story might well be a novel, not a history. My belief was based on many reasons. First was the absence of his ships in the present. If the story was history, the only good evidence should be the remanent ships. Now up to the year of 2023, not one remanent ship was found. The second reason was the sudden appearance and sudden disappearance of his ships. When I read the book Ying Ya Sheng Lan (瀛涯勝覽）, the narration said there were a few hundred ships; then the hundreds of ships appeared. When the narration ended, the ships disappeared suddenly.These sudden appearances and sudden disappearances are the trademark of a novel.

Thanks for sharing.

Actually neither the Europeans nor the Chinese discovered America because there were already native people who settled there, and they also came from somewhere else long ago, most likely Asia.

After Yong Le Di, Ming court was sick and tired of huge amount of resources spent on overseas explorations and the unhealthy elements came with Zheng He's exploration polluting Chinese society and culture. So the court turned isolationism, and burnt all records and anything related overseas exploration including docks, shipyard, etc. That's the reason why it is so hard to find any records of Zheng He's exploration. Decades ago Chinese discovered archaeological sites which built Zheng He's exploration fleets.

I do believe the Chinese would somehow ended up in America west coast just by studying the ocean currents. It's doable “follow the current, keep to the east.”

Nice video with a lot of information

Shang dynasty is the last Chinese dynasty which practiced human sacrifices. I suspect the Mayans probably were the decedents of a lost Shang army/navy.

@chinthengfong1598

6 ай бұрын

Not really....the scripts were totally different between both empires

@ltsgt1

6 ай бұрын

@@chinthengfong1598 Modern simplified Chinese scripts are not the same as the Shang's scripts.

@chinthengfong1598

6 ай бұрын

@@ltsgt1 modern simplified Chinese characters are from Cao Ti writing 草體字, it's existed thousand of years, juz tht simplified Chinese become official writing in mainland China and popularized around the world in recent years.... Chinese's Oracle bone scripts were totally different from mayan scripts, so Ur statement is invalid

@simpernchong

5 ай бұрын

Very likely... i think so too. Shang and Mayan/Aztec all have human sacrifice culture. The aesthetic style together with the Sanxingdui (Chinese) culture are very similar. They are probably same or similar culture. When the Zhou overthrew the Shang, any records of the human sacrifice culture was forcefully destroyed. This is to prevent revival of that brutal practice. Thank goodness.. that was done. .. for it changed Chinese culture for the better.

I like the idea that human history is more intertwined liked that and America wasn't just lost to time for 12 000 years after the last ice age.

Idk the names, but a friend of mine who’s family owned a machine shop in Kingsville told me a story once he heard from old man that worked there. It was a hispanic guy who had been in China with flying tigers during WW2. He kept getting mistaken by Chinese as being one of them even though he was originally from Mexico. At some point they tell him he needs to talk to a village elder. There is a translator with them. She reveals that China went to Mexico/America but that the people there were from Chinese perspective “lazy” they didn’t want to farm and so on so most Chinese gave up on them. She said some stayed that why they looked Chinese.

A historical record from 2000 years ago in China tells the story of the Zhou Dynasty's downfall of the Shang Dynasty over 3000 years ago. A nobleman of the Shang Dynasty led all the people of the fiefdom to flee to the American continent. The rock wall script discovered in the United States is an early Chinese character oracle bone script from the Shang Dynasty

Admiral Cheng ho visited Malacca of Malaysia too.

@wenliu9571

6 ай бұрын

严格来说他不是海军，准确的身份应该是外交大使和使者船队总指挥。士兵们的责任是保护船队，就是使团的卫队。他们强大的战斗力只是当时的明朝的普通水平。事实上国家当时也不需要那样强大的海军，因为没有对等的海上威胁。

Legendary. The fact he did the voyages simultaneously and back to back in big fleets are a wonder to behold

No one “discovered” any continent which has been there for millions of years. Only some countries invaded these continents by force.

How can you discover something that is already in existence?

@sportsonwheelss

6 ай бұрын

Because you don't think like an Anglo. Just look at naming of fruit varieties. They just sprouted a seed from a fruit, give it a name and claims it. Spotted a land, slaughtered, I mean give them freedom and claims it.

I believe it!

There are many Chinese symbols in the Mexican pyramids, like serpents, dragons, statues making yoga, etc., many years before Columbus.

@legpol

6 ай бұрын

I believe the Zheng He voyage story was a novelistic story, not a history. My belief was based on many reasons. First was the absence of his ships in the present. If the story was history, the only good evidence should be the remanent ships. Now up to the year of 2023, not one remanent ship was found. The second reason was the sudden appearance and sudden disappearance of his ships. When I read the book Ying Ya Sheng Lan (瀛涯勝覽）, the narration said there were a few hundred ships; then the hundreds of ships appeared. When the narration ended, the ships disappeared suddenly.These sudden appearances and sudden disappearances are the trademark of a novel.

Awww are the Chinese taking credit for Mongolian discoveries again? Adorable 😂

The Danish were there before Columbus, too, by Leif Eriksson. About 500 years before. That’s also why Greenland is part of the kingdom of Denmark - because they went to Greenland, then to Vinland, today known as Newfoundland. We have found Viking settlements there, so we know for sure.

He’s back, baby!!!

I wish someone would try out the north Pacific current and make the China to America round trip. There are many wealthy Chinese now and so they can afford it. They would make China proud.

@feralkat9370

6 ай бұрын

Lol the nouveau riche Chinese are trying to hard to be WHITE and ESCAPE their prison. Once abroad even DENYING they're Chinese! 😂😂😂

@wenliu9571

6 ай бұрын

已有不少人用无动力翻船成功完成了这个航程。 不幸的是一个真正的航海家在这段航行中消失在夏威夷附近海域。他叫 郭川，guo chuan

有意思 谢谢分享！

2:28 The map named New York "cannibal nation" 😂.

California might have been seen as an island back when the lake was filled with water from the SF bay down to San Diego.

@gumonmyshu

6 ай бұрын

Just watched a show on that last month. Something about pioneer era farmers drained it out and how its coming back naturally.

Dude you have no idea what can all be seen from atop the Kunlun mountain. The Chinese have seen the entire planet. No wonder it's where the immortals built their realm.😁

The monk who led an expedition north and east ("The Mountain Sea Classic") accurately documented the northwest coast cultures and apparently planted the Monterey Cypress trees in Carmel. They also stated that it was 10,000 li, or 2,500 miles, to another coast [the Atlantic]. To be that accurate, they either went there [or went to Chicago and other people told them how much farther it was to the ocean], or were told by members of transcontinental trading networks. Either way, it is conclusive proof of a variegated civilization across the continent. If I remember correctly what I was told by a translator of the Mountain Sea Classic, it was around 1,200 C.E.

@learnchinesenow

6 ай бұрын

Which chapter of Shan Hai Jing is that reference in? I have the book, I would like to check it out

During the Ming Dynasty, a large number of European missionaries copied Chinese classics and passed them back to their own countries. Many European stories and classics were very similar to those in China. After civil strife and corruption, the Han people had their country stolen by the Manchus, and they no longer had complete prestige and dignity, can unscrupulously appropriate their culture.

Zheng He came from a Muslim family, but he was captured by the Ming Dynasty at a young age, and later became a Ming minister, and after being captured by the Ming Dynasty, he became a Buddhist.

America was first discovered by the native Americans.

@brianliew5901

6 ай бұрын

That goes without saying.😂😂😂😂😂

Perhaps the Chinese saw the future and thought let's leave this troubled land.

It's possible some missing ships found America,but not in official record,at least,not what we know of,because the following emperor destroy all the records and want no one to do it again,so, there's not enough prove,but Zheng he's fleet is completely capable of doing that during that time

Without Columbus we won't get those delicious hot red pepper based cuisines! Yes he did increasing floods in china due to the trade of maize. But dang we need those peppers!

The reason Columbus is important is not because he was the first to find the western hemisphere, which he wasn't, but because his voyages ushered in an age of European exploration which dramatically changed the history of the entire world.

@mrhdebater1607

6 ай бұрын

You mean exploitation and colonialism.

Gavin Menzies wrote a book on the same theory

Just set History straight. So much discourse on this subject.

No, There are expenditures during Ming Dynasty. But they're all going to India and Africa. There's a painting of giraffe they bring back. You should know for Chinese at that time east is Korea and Japan and Japan in that time was a famous "Pirate".

Yes. Long before America even existed.

Possible but this has to slowly communicate outwards coz it's too brain damaging if you suddenly say Columbus lost to a Chinese man. 😂

You are learning Chinese here, and I am learning English here🤣

Agave fruits are not red. Those are prickly pear cactus fruits. It is common for foreigners to confuse agaves with cacti (because both have spines), so a simple confusion, specially if the one who wrote the book just transcribed what he/she heard instead of doing the voyage, would be possible.

It is said that Native American moved from China to America in Shang dynasty in ~1000 BC.

@josevilas4927

5 ай бұрын

Oh, please they came from Asian at least 15,000 years ago. And there is plenty of proof of that.

Before Zhenghe Red Indians or firstnations discovered the American continent. 😂😂

The Native Americans discovered America before anyone else

Chinese culture is to make friends, help friends when you are strong. That was the reason why no region was colonized during Zheng He era. Instead some aggressors were warned not to attack the weaks. But after China closed its door, a much smaller fleet of European come and colonized the whole world. 🤣

The fact is 'Jung Java' is the 1st biggest wood ship in the entire world. even the China's emperror noticed it.

in counter for this video. Locals in America be like "We're Rocks now."

As far as i know people of Manchurian and East Siberian origin populated Northeast North America long before(thousands of years before actually) these dates... As there are remnants of their migration to and through Bering.... These people probably were hunter gatherers after big game... Marrow eaters perhaps anyway. We all know that Asians voyaged to America far before Europeans simply by the fact/existence of genetical research anyway. There are also ancient Korean style archelogical finds all the way to Northeast Siberia/Bering Pass(the traditional heating system used by Koreans even today, were seen in some ancient house remnants...) But as implied in the video, i don't think they did discover it close to modern times, or they simply did not understand it's significance.

We should know more about China's history. To be honest, if China likes to invade and expand its territory, then Southeast Asia has become China's territory. The current Chinese territory has evolved over thousands of years. In ancient times, Mongolia and Xinjiang were barren lands. , when disaster strikes, they need to invade the Chinese border in order to survive, but China repels them time and time again and builds the Great Wall. In ancient times, the rest of the countries in Southeast Asia were vassals of China. In the eyes of ancient China, they did not dare to fight against China, so China has always been the big brother of Asian countries instead of going for aggression. That is not necessary. China does not like aggression. If the Siam Empire, the Khmer Empire, and the Bagan Dynasty of Burma dared to invade China at that time, China would fight back. Just like when the Burmese dynasty tried to invade Chinese territory, China went directly to the capital of the ancient dynasty of Burma. Myanmar was very strong at that time, and the surrounding Thai dynasties were all fully invaded by the Burmese dynasty. There is also the small country of South Korea. China has not invaded. Only when they are disobedient, China will send troops to make them obedient.

@NaEun1-nl4xg

5 ай бұрын

We must recognize the fact that the ancient Chinese did not like war and aggression, but cultural aggression. For thousands of years, it has been difficult for the Chinese to assimilate. They are very united and have a high cultural identity. When they go to another country They will still continue their culture, words and customs. Ancient China was also a big commercial country. More than half of the world's wealth was in China. When half of the people in the surrounding small countries were Chinese, then it was not far away that this neighboring country would be invaded by culture and then included in the map of ancient China.

The Siberian tribes that settled areas of North America did so thousands of years ago.. if true, then later they were renamed "natives" after long enough time passed.

@hongqi5734

6 ай бұрын

I agree with you.

Most probably correct !

It wouldn't surprise Me if they hit the Americas before Columbus....even the Vikings did that just on the east coast with Leif Eriksson...I think that was supposed to have been about 500-700 years before Columbus...then there's also evidence to suggest the Hebrews via King David may have done so far before then as some consider when the national name of Brazil comes into play having to do with Iron....some speculate between the name and several other potential details that there was some sort of trade route or what have you wherein they came from the middle east to obtain iron and bring it back with them from the area we know as Brazil....can't definitively confirm it BUT there have been several archaeological "experts" said to have been or are still researching and digging about for more significant indicators to affirm or deny the likelihood/probability of such....waiting to see which way it pans out thus far....there have even been indicators linked to Egyptian and Hebrew artifacts found in the USA and Mexico....could be fake, could be real, have yet to dig in with fervor as of yet to find out what they've determined thus far though.

What discovery? Native Americans already lived there for thousands of years before anyone visited them

It sounds like discover the Sun in the sky. There people on those land, You can't discover it, You found it😢

My contribution: When Japan had its recent Fukushima Nuclear Disaster, rubbish from Japan, with Japanese writing of course, appeared in the coast of Canada, Washington, and California. Obviously these objects travelled naturally. So yes it’s very probably that it would be easy to end up in the West coast of North America.

Columbus never even got to the American supercontinent; he basically visited Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic, thinking it was India. Man, did he ever get lost! 🙂

The continents were connected in the past. There are mythical animals depicted in an old Chinese book later found in America.

I mean the oldest mixed Americans have more Asian DNA then any other worldwide cultures, though thier are many types of American DNA nowdays.

The vikings and Basque fishing ships were here before they both were.

Chinese is the Old of Historical of human kind that is written perfectly. 👌👍❤

It doesnt matter who found the land only who conquered it

Back in that time, most nations or tribes were not really well developed. Plus Chinese have the mantality to stay home "falling leaves always return to the roots".

I do not understand why people still keep talking about Columbus as the "first person discovering" America". Weren't there already indigenous people (under the misnomer "Indian") living there for thousands of years before he "discovered" America? Are they not "persons"? It is not a matter of being "politically correct". It is a matter of fact. The Westerners are so prone to disregard the "human" status of other peoples and are still treating as if they were they only humans on earth. That is sickening.

@learnchinesenow

6 ай бұрын

They didnt discover it though, since they were already here, thats the logic. But you should be able to hear a but of sarcasm anyway when we say Columbus was the first.

@chiupolini

6 ай бұрын

@@learnchinesenow Well, I understand what you are saying. But I do not think the "Indians" originated in America. DNA testing shows that their ancestors originated from Asia, most probably the China plain over 3,000 years ago or much earlier. (To this day, I cannot distinguish some "Red Indians" from Chinese). By migrating over, their ancestors truly "discovered" America much much earlier than the Europeans. Isn't that the correct logic? In the American Declaration of Independence, it said "All men are equal...". But they obviously left out the black slaves (and other coloured peoples) are also men, because in that era they were not treated as such. Lets' stop perpetuating this false logic and bias by keep calling Columbus "discovered" America.

@learnchinesenow

6 ай бұрын

Right the American Indians most likely walked across the baring straight, that in the video too. I don't think we are perpetrating the logic that Columbus was the first to discover America, this whole video is about how that probably isn't the case.

@chiupolini

6 ай бұрын

@@learnchinesenow I think some may say I am engaged in a semantic argument here. But why the need to discuss in the video the possibilities that Columbus was not the first person to discover America WHEN WE KNOW THAT IS PLAINLY UNTRUE BECAUSE RED INDIANS ARE ALSO PERSONS, and they must be the first who discovered America? It is the use of the objectionable phrase "Columbus was the first who discovered America ", or "Columbus discovered America" that is creating the problem. If we can say "Columbs was the first modern European who discovered America," then the problem is solved. I hope I am not being pedantic here. But that, in my view, is important because, intentionally or not, the continuing use of the objectionable phrase perpetuates the denial that "Red Indians" are "persons" who first discovered America. No offence is intended. Just expressing my view whenever I hear someone keeping on saying the Columbus was the first to discover America. He clearly was not.

@josevilas4927

5 ай бұрын

I agree with you. The statement should be Columbus was the first European of the Renaissance that let the Europeans know that there was another way to go to Asia. Actually, Columbus died thinking he has arived to India. And called the locals "indios" that is why the first people were and in some cases are called Indians or indios . It was Americo Vespucio and others who realized that this was indeed another continent. However, in the Hispania ( Spanish speaking countries) children learned to memorized this; " Cristobal Colón descubrio América el 12 de octubre de 1492". I did learn it so I have never forget neither the year or the date😊. Now we call it " Day of Cultural Diversity" , Día de la Raza, and "Día del Encuentro de Dos Mundos” . Celebrated with parades in many countries in Latin América and España.

I think the native Americans discovered the continents.