Did Supercell Lose Their Touch?
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Discussion about the new Clash Royale update and in depth talk about Supercell beta games like Squad Busters, Clash Heroes, Clash Mini.
0:00 - Intro
0:20 - Brawl Stars Update
4:15 - Clash Royale Update
10:44 - Level 15 in Clash Royale
23:18 - Monetization in Supercell games
25:52 - Clash Mini
32:41 - Clash Heroes
34:59 - Squad Busters
38:03 - CR Wishlist/Suggestions
44:16 - Has Supercell Lost Their Touch?
Guests:
/ orangejuicegaming
/ @reallex
/ @bentimm1
Пікірлер: 901
Congrats on the first episode, great listen. Excited to see where you take this!
@crow731
Жыл бұрын
Sup
@PokeInstincT
Жыл бұрын
Sup
@Alansie
Жыл бұрын
Sup
@panpanBR
Жыл бұрын
Sup
@ZeROx3894
Жыл бұрын
Sup
I feel slandered & I'm happy with it hahaha! 🤣 Edit: I just want to say that I really feel like the 6-Player Draft mode for Clash Mini really brought the game 1 step towards global. It has a ton of depth to it, and it's a LOT of fun! The game still needs a lot of improvements before Global, but I'm still betting in it going global!
@KrazyCouch2
Жыл бұрын
I feel like past Supercell would probably take it global but I'm not sure about current Supercell 🤔 But you know I've never spoken to Supercell before so...
@modder853
Жыл бұрын
@KrazyCouch2 each supercell devs are different
@davidrobinson7260
Жыл бұрын
In addition Clash Mini has a solid clan mechanic, which other Supercell games didn't develop till long after global launches. Just a cherry on top!
@WAFFLE747
Жыл бұрын
@@KrazyCouch2 Wdym past supercell? They have always had high expectations for their games. Their first games (Hay day and Clash of Clans) are very successful, Clash of Clans is like top 5 mobile game ever and Hay Day is consistently a top 50 game for the whole time it’s been out.
@BodyMusicification
Жыл бұрын
KairosTim impostor...
Well the good news is that Star Exchange is gone from the game! Yay! But, yes, great feedback overall peeps.
@theking167
Жыл бұрын
Ayy your here
@uau_exitar
Жыл бұрын
your game is good and addictive but just needs little bit of oomph and itwill solve when the game will be loaded with varieties of gameplay and minis. the core gameplay is stale and boring.. only draft is good
@nightfran1912
Жыл бұрын
Yoo you guys are here❤ I love your game, I think your game needs more minis and heroes and lower the prices on your special offers. Also can you try to make clans more special. Love you all and hope your game goes Global❤
@nithina8314
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully u guys go global You guys deserve it even though it kind of in a downhill now but it have a good core gameplay
@Cheese7.294
Жыл бұрын
Man, Frame is being serious
this was so enjoyable to watch; oj genuinely being himself was extremely refreshing.
@samuelgoertz9534
Жыл бұрын
😂 imagine if he didn’t have to be family friendly his content would be so much better
@samuelgoertz9534
Жыл бұрын
Although I still enjoy his content
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
@@samuelgoertz9534 i don't think swearing elevates content 😜
@samuelgoertz9534
Жыл бұрын
@@PeelingTheOrange I don’t think swearing elevates content but being able to just get away with more mature content since supercell always makes you act so family friendly but sometimes you don’t like with the clash royale anime ai
@bobbyzeitgeist1842
Жыл бұрын
@@PeelingTheOrange being more relaxed and not always watching what you say makes better content. It lets the real person come out and not this fake KZreadr personality
OJ don't give a duck for anything
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
ducking autocorrect can duck my balls
@soupersam3700
Жыл бұрын
clash mini deals can duck balls
@JJ-xu7ju
Жыл бұрын
Oj is unhinged ❤️❤️❤️
@AJ._7
Жыл бұрын
Sus
@StarCheesy
Жыл бұрын
🤨
This critique on Supercell’s current performance was really good, no aggressiveness just 3 friends genuinely passionate about the longevity of the games they play and love
I love the idea of OJ making an adult oriented clash royale/brawlstars podcast. Both of them have a huge adult player base and too many KZreadrs are scared of scaring away their younger audience which inadvertently marginalizes the adult player base by forcing creators to be too positive and censor themselves. I don’t blame those KZreadrs for doing that, but I highly respect OJ for making another channel just for us. btw OJ if you’re reading this : amazing job, I love it, please invite CWA and Kairos for future episodes. if you want to, I think you can upload these to Apple Podcasts too if you haven’t already, but regardless keep up the great work 🔥🔥🔥 Edit:grammar and spelling mistakes
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
will definitely have them on if they wish!
YESS ANOTHER SUPERCELL PODCAST! we love this and can’t wait for more episodes!
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
woah woah woah, who said this was a supercell podcast
@ThePodClash
Жыл бұрын
@@PeelingTheOrange fair point 👀
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePodClash i can't wait to trauma dump on this channel. prob ep 5.
@BadiehWoTBlitzMore
Жыл бұрын
@@PeelingTheOrange too real man
Just to reference how much better they made progression during the 8 month period before they started changing the gears I had barely any level 10s, but in just the the last 6 ish months since they made the changes to gears, removed boxes and now mastery I have all my brawlers at level 10 AND some level 11s, and I'm a steady progress to get them all to level 11
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
We love Brawl Stars devs! They made an honest mistake and rectified the changes.
@randorantos
Жыл бұрын
@@PeelingTheOrange Yea, but honestly though they had has all worried for a bit when they said they weren't going to change gears till 2023, but they heard how much the community truly wished for change and that lead them to make honestly some of the best changes any dev crew could do
@iltelsh1547
Жыл бұрын
And to add up for that, they ACTUALLY SHOW that they're ready to listen to us about more concerns and feedback (AKA "Time To Explain!" Podcast which is coming relatively soon considering next season is coming in 2,5 weeks) They're truly care for a game and that what makes me happy. Edit: Wow... I didn't know "soon" means TODAY, but... Wow.
@LUCAS420BLZ
Жыл бұрын
@@iltelsh1547 the podcast was honestly really good I still think they should keep up with the road maps since we got everything already but I can see them making a podcast episode every month or maybe once every season to properly communicate to community that isn't vague tweets or reddit replies
@diamonddestroyer7931
Жыл бұрын
ye BS is way more FTP now, i came back a little more than a year ago wit my most maxxed brawler was lvl8 poco but now i have 19 power 11 and 63 brawlers
About the lack of strategy in Clash Mini, I think this has slowly improved over time with just balancing, & of course gizmos help a ton, you can actually actively counter-play opponents now (compared to before), & RNG is reduced quite a lot. Hopefully new draft gamemode solves retention too
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
This was recorded a few weeks ago before the new draft mode was released! I’m excited for the potential of CM. Appreciate your thoughtful insight.
@ShiuMings
Жыл бұрын
@@PeelingTheOrange yea I’m super stoked too, if it weren’t for the whole economy saga, I probably would’ve predicted global next update lol
@mmango267
Жыл бұрын
We needed this
@jdpokedollars585
Жыл бұрын
Love u shiu ❤
@marcelperescu3034
Жыл бұрын
Nah bro clash mini still lacks strategy everyone on top plays bk 2 elixir and in rumble whoever gets natureborn with e wiz or witch wins. Also dart goblin is almost always winning
I love how genuine OJ is. When he was being kinda looked down for not being hypercritical of Supercell for CR update (although he did take his humorous shots at them), he came out with an honest opinion without any constraints from Supercell to give his honest opinion and the somewhat general take of other passionate players. Thank you for this.
I didn't know OJ had a new channel, glad YT recommended it to me immediately haha Absolutely living for OJ not being family friendly, definitely gonna tune in to this podcast
@Ben10_Brawl_Stars
Жыл бұрын
Lmao same
@samuelpaulitos4059
Жыл бұрын
I actually heard about tihs channel form his Juicy News Network channel recent video*. I hope to see more videos here in the future. P.S.: *Link for the JNN video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/YmeWmc2zmKatmKw.html
Really fun watch, hope you do more of these OJ
It's cool sometimes to think outside the box OJ, It's really cool to see you hanging out with your friends talking about the thing you have in common together and we appreciate you doing this and recording for almost 1 hour making this video, you have my respect my friends❤❤
i remember when they released bandit and we can unlock it from the challenge for like 8 or12 wins, those challenges back in the days were really fun and challenging
@skyking469
Жыл бұрын
Bandit still is my favourite card 😢
I love this! Amazing first episode! Exited to see what’s in the future😊
I love this type of videos!!! You guys should do more like this!!
This Is the first that podcast I watched till the very end & I didn't even realized that an hour had passed. A suggestion tho, after such conversations , I feel it would be good if you leave us with a question or like a suggestion for us to ponder over like.....I would love that ,don't know about others . Overall great podcast . looking forward for more episodes in future :)
This is such a breath of fresh air to watch, you guys are literally my childhood. Being a college student now it's unbearable sitting through main channel content, I've really outgrown the demographic. I vibe with this new outlook on content a ton! keep it up ❤
It's refreshing to see your perspectives and take, and I can't wait for more episodes!
So fun to listen to, I’m not the biggest podcast guy but I really enjoyed and watched/heard it all. It’s super refreshing to see you, Lex, and Ben not having to stick to a script or play a character. Being unfiltered also makes y’all more relatable and all that jazz. Can’t wait for the next episode
I’m 20 and loving the podcast! Doubt any 8 years olds listening to this
I love the new type of podcast channel that OJ plans on doing!
Dang that ending gave me chills, excellent work on this, you guys did an amazing job being honest and down to earth about supercell, and it was great to hear you guys discuss it. Super refreshing and definitely made my day!!
I actually really enjoyed this video style and format as opposed to the normal edited videos for supercell content. and was honestly sad to see this was the only video on their channel, can’t wait to see what else comes
it's actually so nice to have such an intelligent, respectful podcast about a great company and their great games. i hope this continues just for the vibes and im trying to make my own game so the input of people like you guys are always valued especially since we are all playing and inspired by the same games
This is the perfect video to have playing while you kinda just resonate with the points you guys make, I love this more authentic version of you guys
They need to put party mode back in the main screen with maybe even a ladder, but have you click on the switch modes button 3 times
@BodyMusicification
Жыл бұрын
That would be great. And ideally the game would remember which mode you left the screen on last time. Since I always play 2v2 it would be more convenient to not have to always switch modes
Can’t wait for future podcast awesome work👍🏾
This episode is amaizing. You, Lex and Ben are the main reason I joined the Tribe community. Keep up the good work. 🤗
@RealLex
Жыл бұрын
❤
@professionalmexican7919
Жыл бұрын
@@RealLex Spotify podcast when?
Honestly this was a really cool thing! I cannot wait for more episodes! Congrats and i'm excited to see where this goes to. Maybe even having some more guests! ;)
man we needed something like this for pretty long time and now here it is.. I havent watched the video yet but I hope those content creators really use their power to maybe bring supercell back on track at least a bit, show em where some borders are
Great podcast gents enjoyed it! I've been playing Clash Mini since season 1 and I must say I'm having a ton of fun with the latest update. True the game does still need a bit of work, but I'm confident we can get it to global 🤞🤞
Damn. This podcast really got my attention from start to end. Great chemistry guys!💯
Really enjoyed the laid back feel of the podcast, can’t wait to see more!
Very much enjoyed this different kind of content for the clash topic, yt recommended did justice ❤
I think and hope that Supercell announcing they want to start doing stuff on PC/Console could be their next game changer. Right now with mobile games I hope Squad Buster could be their next hit(primarily among supercell fans)but I’m eager to see what they got with PC and Console.
Gotta get molt on the podcast
@orangejuice
Жыл бұрын
YES!!!!
i loved the vibes on this video and would love to see more podcast episodes ty guys!
Its nice to see this verion of you guys just chatting and being layed back! Tuned in for level 2
If you think about it, they even slowed down our mastery progress from party modes, bcz as all cards are now level 11, they will do less damage but the mastery tasks are still the same
@Lolo_Antonio-FryEmUpFan
Жыл бұрын
For a maxed player yes
This is the greatest podcast. We need more of this.
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
more coming
@livnehlernershapira2420
Жыл бұрын
Its so funny that like 2 hours after you realised this brawl stars released theyre own podkast😅
Congrats oj it was so nice to have a podcast from you my fav gaming creator
This is an excellent show! Thank you for the quality content!
I feel like clash mini is slowly improving and taking are feedback to improving the game and they just added events. But I feel like I don’t see clash mini going global this year . Also great episode can’t wait to see more !!!!! 🤩
@theking167
Жыл бұрын
Well if it don’t go global this year I doubt they will continue the game the next update could be the last update either before global or death as it’s reaching where Brawl stars took in amount of time in beta
I feel like one of the most annoying things in the updated that not many people talk about is path of legends changing to super mega draft. It takes so much time, and the gamemode is not even fun.
What a coincidence that peeling the orange would release right about when i decided to start to listen to podcasts. Great one, OJ and everyone BTS. i forsee great future for this channel.
Great episode. Hopefully you guys can talk about more then just supercell games!
I love seeing the unfiltered personality of OJ so much
I’m a little surprised that I don’t see many podcasts by supercell content creators Very excited for this and it’s future
I really like this podcast. Congrats OJ! Hoping you'd invite others creators as well! Seeing you guys chat like a bunch of friends talkin bout sumth their like is reall really really interesting
Great video and channel. Subbed. Looking through for more videos.
This was soo fun please bring Ray and Kairos too 😊
i want an open world style map for brawl stars with all of starr park being the map, i think that would be soooooo cool and finally give something new to the game
@modder853
Жыл бұрын
So you want brawl stars to be rpg?
I remember being in the top 200 in my country when gears came out. I was F2p and after 2 weeks of playing the update i just didnt want to play anymore but around christmas i started playing again and its actually fun now.
Looking forward to more episodes! This podcast is fantastic! 👍
Seeing gamers discuss about the games we played for years, does bring a smile to my face. Its amazing to see this community who passionately love a game want the dev team to hear their concern and understand what we want. Let's all hope for the best and I can't wait for what's to come.
PODCAST W
@fmogamall443
Жыл бұрын
big fan❤
@Ben10_Brawl_Stars
Жыл бұрын
O Nats here too lol hi nat
I need more of these! Content creators talking openly about their opinions is refreshing content while transparent and trustworthy.
What an amazing on violent discussion of the game’s recent update, as well as a talk about mobile gaming in general. More people need to make videos as spectacular as this!
For Ben’s question on how long would it take a f2p to level up a champion to level 14 here is my answer as a f2p player who had enough xp to already be at king level 14 by the time level 14 came to the game. As of February I finally unlocked the mighty miner meaning I have all the cards. In total I have collected a total of 21 champion cards and I have plaid continuously since level 14 came out and have gotten the most progress I could possibly get.
@k.r.t.f4209
Жыл бұрын
mighty minOR ay yo?
@pooppoo5887
Жыл бұрын
You're going to jail👮♂️👮♂️
@Scootieloo
Жыл бұрын
The Mighty Minor. Ain't no way ☠️☠️☠️
@simeonroberts2004
Жыл бұрын
I really had the worst typo I could possibly have 😂
I loved the last 3 mins of the video, that black screen, ohhh so relaxing
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
thanks for watching til the end
OJ my idol! Lol I’ll watch every podcast vid start to finish! This podcast will definitely be something.
Solid first episode, keep up the good work
after the gears i quit too but i’m happpy to be back
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
Yup! The devs did a great job
@cakewalk4602
Жыл бұрын
welcome back :3
Any plans on adding this channel on Spotify or Apple podcasts or any other platform in just audio form?
@orangejuice
Жыл бұрын
We'll add to spotify soon!
@soumyajitchanda9691
Жыл бұрын
@@orangejuice Can't wait to hear OJ and friends while just while doing chores or just driving to work.
Hi oj this is the dirst podcast where i really wanted to listen to all of it because these are themes i can relate with. I love yalls Yt channels.
It’s so satisfying to hear the content creators with no restrictions. I love this podcast already!
Its funny because the lack of depth in Clash mini is mainly just for unexperienced players its like there is no spectrum you're either a Pro or have no idea what you're doing As someone who drops More hours on this game (playing/Making and watching Vids/Engaging in the Community) than anything else i still discover some small strategies every now and then regularly Its just not much of the new players will put up with the "Randomness" they feel the game has up until they reach the Understanding to be able to Actually know what they are doing They need to somehow fix the super sharp skill ceiling curve
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
That was well said, it feels like there is a sharp curve.
@uau_exitar
Жыл бұрын
@@PeelingTheOrange yes oj this guy is telling the truth, when you say clash mini is not going global or it doesnt have strategies, it is getting bad popularity. whenever u do clash mini video, you dont have any clue what you are doing and i would be screaming in my head. but i am very addictive and once you gain experience of the game. u will realise how much strategy it requires. strategy in clash mini is not direct or front looking but deep, which is bad for new players and makes it look random
As someone thats been making Clash Mini videos for a year. Over 300 uploads, I don't see this game going global until October. Clash Mini is so one dimensional and feels flat. The only thing that's saving it is the new Event and the balance changing happening every month. I love this game. I'm a diehard fan, but I agree. Game isn't ready YET. However, I trust the developers to be transparent and will make the right choices.
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
hey! it's the angry guy that likes honkers!
@Spoooob
Жыл бұрын
@@PeelingTheOrange I'll be angry when needed. I care about this game so much. I wouldn't be releasing videos close to a daily basis and putting time into our smol community. When others won't criticize, I will be the first to do it. However, we had the stage channel and developers will be more transparent with the community
@jdpokedollars585
Жыл бұрын
Love u spooby.
Loved the video and how real you got, really shows how much you care for the game.
Listened to the entire podcast. Definitely looking forward to the next episode ❤
Did you make this before supercell gave us the 12 wins challenge ?
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
yea
kairos watching this video: 😢
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
sorry KT, we love ya
@69420everyday
Жыл бұрын
@@PeelingTheOrange as a level 1 Clash Royale player, it totally destroyed me
This channel is a fantastic idea! Looking forward to future episodes :D Also, needless to say you got my sub less than 10 minutes in
The chemistry here is great and so are the topics discussed. As someone who’s been in the community and playing games for nearly 11 years I absolutely love this. Can’t wait for more.
OJ making me act up 😤😤
@Lim3cake
Жыл бұрын
💀
@alexcastelano4236
Жыл бұрын
Ong ong😩😫
@rian9684
Жыл бұрын
Fr, he's hot af
I don’t know why OJ didn’t start a podcast earlier I love this side of oj ❤😂 Edit - Thanks for ❤
@samuelgoertz9534
Жыл бұрын
Wait does editing my comment remove the ❤that’s bs 💀pls add the ❤ back
@hoodclassicsofcalifornia
Жыл бұрын
Yeah editing does that lol it’s happened to me too Unforch💀
I have really enjoyed listening to this vid,pls make more
I love this so much a un censored version where you just tell us what you think can’t wait for the next episode
Oj I know no 5 years old gonna watch this Me 4 years old:🙂😶
@rian9684
Жыл бұрын
jizz
@xXsillysussyXx
Жыл бұрын
Me 1 year old : 👶
@pablopinedo2799
Жыл бұрын
Me when I lie
Let's be honest. Are card levels even fit for clash Royale? I'm not kidding. I think card levels don't fit in CR. It does fit Brawl and CoC, but the CR leveling system was flawed from the get go, heavily relying on magic items and killing deck variety. Let's compare it to Brawl Stars for example. Here, there are no magic items, and every brawler and their builds are playable. Even a level 1 is playable as the game can adjust the matchmaking to make the game somewhat fair. You could even argue that each brawler can be considered separate individual archetypes because of the different syles and the playability. On the other hand, CR HEAVILY relies on literal progression jumps provided by the Book of Book items, instantly filling the card count bar from black to green. The current riot against the removal of these books from tje pass more than proves my point. Archetype switching is what made me question the viability of card levels in this game. Unlocking a card in CR doesn't mean a new archetype to play, and underleveled cards are effectively banned from usage until the card is upgraded and progression jumped to the level of the other cards. Combined with the limited number of win conditions in the game, the game can become very stale especially to midladder players. Oh boy, midladder. I wish they didn't have a separate meta. This thing divides the community, makes tutorials less effective, balancing cards like Wizard and MK very controversial, and the mockery and the HE-HE-HE-HA's against this shit is killing the game IMO. The midladder meta is defined by splashes, which I get it. It's easy to grasp onto when you're new to the game. However, the game doesn't offer a lot of ways to help players break out from the tendancy. With all the measures that prevent easy archetype switching I mentioned before, the midladder meta has become as stale as the Phoenix meta at launch, but unlike it taking a few months, it's been 7 years since the start of the same midladder meta with no hope for a drastic change. So how do you fix the leveling system? How about we *remove card levels* entirely? Also, how about *tower level 150*? Each level would increase the card's stats by 1% instead of 10 to avoid power creep, and make leveling feel like a more liniar progress. Card unlocking would fallow the Brawl Stars style progression, which would allow the game to prepare for the EU ban of loot boxes. The rarities and their minimum levels would be still be affected though, which means rares won't be unlockable until level 40. This would require a few more level reclassifications though such as swapping the rarities of RG and Giant, and the same treartment for mini PEKKA and Ebarbs. This change would however, hurt semi-maxed out players who might be punished for not upgrading their clone spells or whatever. Of course, the conversion to the new system would need to be very careful, but since Brawl stars did it, I bet CR would have the capability too. This change aims to make midladder a more flexible meta that can dynamically change along side the top dogs. This system would also allow for special card abilities to be more affordable and have less backlash than the riot we're facing right now. This system could also allow deck diversity by introducing weekly ban cards. Situations like all spell bans would shift the meta a lot and make off-meta decks more viable and enjoyable.
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
I like the underlying fundamentals! But 150x upgrades could alienate me players as that’s a lot of clicking 😅
@CivetKittyMC
Жыл бұрын
@PeelingTheOrange Still better than clicking 1500 times to max all the cards and opening up millions of boxes to get all the resources for them. What's even more ironic is that Masteries are bad for CR, because it adds insult to injury on the incredibly stale midladder meta. Who the fuck would try out new decks when you are also rewarded for keeping your deck as is> Being underleveled is more than enough as a punishment for deck switching, and now this game is deviding the community like crazy.
Love the pod OJ! And its crazy since I was just thinking if OJ wojld create another channel yesterday lol
This is so great keep going with this
We need timestamps
@PeelingTheOrange
Жыл бұрын
Noted!
@apoorvverma602
Жыл бұрын
Honestly you just need to stop spending your time on reels
OJ pls stop cussing I watch this with my mom😭
@Crispych
Жыл бұрын
Jk❤
Hoping this is a regular thing actually such a good listen
Can’t wait to see more podcasts. Also, the reason I’m taking a break from brawl stars is because the Wi-Fi connection was dry inconsistent.
I am 8 years old. Please watch your profanity from now on because you got me in trouble with my mom and I am now in an orphanage.
@ai-tw1zn
Жыл бұрын
W mom
@StarCheesy
Жыл бұрын
Is that a joke? Your channel is 7 years old 😂 And are you the real creator of canal grande?
@thelucas2000
Жыл бұрын
@@StarCheesy yes it is, and yes I am
Clash Royale sucks now 👎👎👎
This is genuinely such a good podcast. I really want to see who's gonna be on the next episode!
Gratz did an amazing video on this clash royal topic
22:39 "I'm confident they'll be able to do the right thing" Me coming back after level 15 was released in clash royale: 💀
New favorite OJ channel ngl; I kinda like having podcast/interviews in the background. Still pay attention to what’s said but there’s not really anything I need to look at
Honestly such a nice first episode, watching oj feel comfortable with himself and not being worried to curse feels so fresh, really good episode guys !!! 🎉
I like how they are talking about skins in brawl stars and then bling was announced
I can’t wait for this series! It’ll be pretty cool!
I dont typically listen to podcasts even though i like them. But i am absolutely going to watch every single one of these and subscribe. Stay juicy oj.
i didn’t know y’all had a podcast!! instantly subbed
I love this new approach to your content