I feel like it all fits together so well!!

@futbol_rolf9624

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to Peak J.K. Rowling

@methos9167

2 жыл бұрын

it really does

@Thesis_Rose

2 жыл бұрын

Haven’t watched yet but I believe your true

@devin.black1

2 жыл бұрын

Dude perfect panda theory video please!

@kalikohendrix1923

2 жыл бұрын

Please can you guys do what if Harry died in GOF?

I love that this theory perpetuates the “I open at the close” sentiment. To have the events/plots of the series summarized in both the first and last books without it being super obvious is just perfection in my opinion

@sampdee

2 жыл бұрын

THIS COMMENT NEEDS TO BE PINNED

@jaredbennett7677

2 жыл бұрын

100%!

@freshli1

2 жыл бұрын

There is also a nice reference in the last movie. We see the group fighting their way through the castle to the boat's house. And on their path they encounter a number of things alluding to the previous incantations in the correct order: a giant (the troll or Hagrid), spiders (Aragok), Greyback (werewolf Lupin), dead student Lavender (dead Cedric), Dementors and members of the DA and OotP, Snape (the Halfblood Prince), Nagini (Horcrux)

@billbooth2577

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing watching this video Jocelyn 🙂

@hollyhartwick3832

2 жыл бұрын

“I open at the close” was just code for “stuff the snitch in your mouth.” (Which the movie got wrong. He just basically kissed it. Weird.) Not sure that really applies here.

There's something else for the Potion's riddle, which I saw online. All of the potions correspond with a Defence teacher. There are three poisons, which represent Quirell, Crouch and Carrow. They are all killers, jsut like poison. The two nettle wines are Lockhart and Umbridge. Neither the wine nor the teachers are helpful, but neither are deadly, either. Lupin represents the potion that takes you back. He was friends with Harry's dad, and helped Harry learn about the past. Finally, the potion that moves you forwards represents Snape. His memories were the cause of Harry sacrificing himself, which drove the Battle at Hogwarts forwards, and helped the light win, the same way the potion helped Harry win. Now, I will add a bit of my own connections to this forshadowing. Hermione obviously trusted the forwards and backwards potion. In the books, Hermione trusted Lupin in spite of him being a werewolf. Later in the book series, she also trusted Snape in spite of Harry and Ron's negative propoganda. Even with so many potions, the real obstacle was always the riddle itself. Just like how through all the problems Harry faced, the real problem was always Riddle. Yep. That's it. :)

@unstablespinach

2 жыл бұрын

omg i love this

@TheWiseRaven01

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, you're right! That fits perfectly!

@davidspring4003

2 жыл бұрын

Umbridge is more harmful that Carrow, fight me.

@evelynrowenadawn

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidspring4003 Umbridge is horrible, but she never actaully tried to kill anyone. She was toxic, like wine is intoxicating, yet she was not deadly as poison.

@davidspring4003

2 жыл бұрын

@@evelynrowenadawn she tortured people for speaking a view (which was the truth) different from her own and could produce a fully fledged patronus in a room full of dementors while wearing a Horcrux because she was allowed to torment muggleborn/halfblood wizards while claiming a blood supremacy she didn't have AND tried to justify the use of an Unforgivable Curse ON ONE OF HER STUDENTS. We don't see Carrow do anything and are told what he does...most of which is punish people who don't do his course work. I'm not saying he DIDN'T kill anyone (he's a Death Eater, he probably did), but what we hear that he did is still less bad than even one of Umbridge's less terrible actions

And the Mirror allows Harry to see his parents, not unlike how he Resurrection Stone allows him to do the same

@Umamahh-iq1qp

10 ай бұрын

oooh YES!

For the last room, a mirror is where you look at yourself, and its like harry realizing that he is the last horcrux.

In many ways, Philosophers Stone is like a quick summary of the whole series. There is a monster in a girls bathroom. Harry first meets Voldemort in the aftermath of events involving Hagrid and dragons. There are secret rooms in the castle that no one knew about, that are essential to the entire plot. There is a piece of Voldemort living inside other people. Snape seems like the bad guy, but actually he was helping out Harry in secret the whole time. Harry wakes up after a near-death experience, to have a private chat with Dumbledore. Slytherin has a comfortable lead against Gryffindor, but in the end, Harry, Hermione, Ron, and Neville defeat Slytherin, but only barely.

@ariahazelwood3842

2 жыл бұрын

I love all of these!!

@uortodox9629

2 жыл бұрын

The are no: important deaths occuring, important political conflicts decisive for the story, no Sirius black, hardly Any love or death vital for the story also. Great idea, but the theory doesnt really fit.

@PhilBagels

2 жыл бұрын

@@uortodox9629 It's not really a theory, just an extended analogy.

@Connor-yn8pz

2 жыл бұрын

@@uortodox9629 it would be ridiculous to fit them in the first book. It's a completely valid theory that does fit because those are all main plot points. If you want major deaths to match up that defeats the purpose of it being subtle Quick edit, I can't remember if it's movie, book or something I read online. But at some point I've heard of Hagrid noting that he got his motorbike from sirius so he could take Harry to dumbledore faster as a baby. That's where sirius would be in book 1 if you wanna be picky. Quirrels death could be the same as voldemorts main death. Ron was hurt when stepping up to help harry, like sirius died just after helping Harry at the ministry, (could also fit ron with dumbledore's death considering their similar personalities)

@miriamrosemary9110

2 жыл бұрын

@@Connor-yn8pz Hagrid indeed uses Sirius's motorbike to carry baby Harry. That's from the books. The bike is also in the movie, but I don't think they mention where/who the bike is from in the films.

Skimmed right past the fact that they didn't have to do anything to beat he troll chamber, eluding to the fact that Umbridge didn't allow them to do magic in her class. Also possibly that they fought the troll outside of it's intended place, which could be a metaphor for Dumbledore's Army.

@miriamrosemary9110

2 жыл бұрын

Ooh, good points

@jessicasnow9007

2 жыл бұрын

To me the troll already being dead is similar to how Harry is lured to the Department of Mysteries only to find out Sirius isn’t actually there.

@12baumarobi

2 жыл бұрын

@@jessicasnow9007 aww, that got me in the feels, girl :/

@murdermeharry8703

2 жыл бұрын

Wow I didn't even think about this!

The fact that the entrance is on the 3rd floor is genius. Because who would ever think "secret basement entrance must be on the 3rd floor, let's start our search there!"

@alexanderzack3720

Жыл бұрын

considering there are so many shortcuts in this castle that let you skip floors... also a secret entrance in the second floor that leads to a chamber that is located below the lake

@joshuahietala5174

3 ай бұрын

Well, everyone if you announce that that place is forbidden

The troll is what brought Harry, Ron, and Hermione together, which in turn led the three of them to bring together Dumbledore’s Army in book 5. Also may I just say, everyone in this comment section, reading all of your analogies are just so satisfying to hear. They fit together like a puzzle that wasn’t designed to fit together

@loturzelrestaurant

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty Weak Arguments. Mattpat? Is that you?! Seriously, 'Silver Keys like the Colour of Patronus'?? Wow.

@DreadKyller

2 жыл бұрын

@@loturzelrestaurant A single argument being weak means nothing. The basis for this theory is how many small connections there are not how strong an individual one is. And from your response perhaps you completely miss the point of theorycrafting. If you think the point is to definitively state "X is true and Y is not", then you're mistaken. The point is to exercise creativity and practice critical thinking skills. At the end of the day it doesn't matter much whether these theories are correct or not, if people leave out of it interested in a topic, or having had their thoughts provoked the video has done it's job.

@GreyPunkWolf

2 жыл бұрын

@@DreadKyller At the end of the day it's just theorycrafting based on a fiction, so yeah. You could even make theories about Dumbledore being the reincarnation of anakin skywalker that used a tardis to reach cthullu's universe, then went through a wormhole and reincarnated as a phenix. Anything goes. Just have fun.

@Ranger1812

Жыл бұрын

That isn't foreshadowing...

Also, the last parallel is that there is another mirror important to the plot of the Deathly Hallows, one that has a tie to a Dumbledore... *cough cough rip Dobby cough*

There's two details I want to add to that theory : The Key room : As you said, the solution is the silver winged key, which is a grey flying creature. In Prisoner, Harry rescues Sirius thanks to Buckbeak, a grey flying creature. The Mirror of Erised : The Mirror shows you your deepest desire, and at one point, Dumbledore's deepest desire was the Deathly Hallows

@latortugapicante719

2 жыл бұрын

I like the thought but there is absolutely no way the keys symbolize buck beak that is really grabbing at straws

@MANGLORIOUS

2 жыл бұрын

@@latortugapicante719 yeah I agree, plus it’s said the key had blue wings. But tbh I wouldn’t put anything past Rowling

@kel2678

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's all about trying to get through the door and that mirrors quite nicely with the dreams of the door in the ministry

@Alexander_Jaelan_Cummings

2 жыл бұрын

I also thought that looking up at the keys almost exactly resembles looking up at the dementors

@CrazyQuilman157

2 жыл бұрын

Also, along the lines of the Mirror of Erised...what Harry desires most is to see his family, who he never truly knew. In Deathly Hallows, the thing that gives him the courage he needs to face death with all his dignity? Being surrounded by his family, the ones who he got to know and lost along the way. And I dare anyone to try and seriously tell me Sirius and Lupin weren't family to either Harry or even James.

Can I ask how Fred and George weren’t at least tempted to try and go through the locked door that everyone was told they couldn’t go through. Especially as it’s filch that is seen patrolling the area

@jolynnjones8624

2 жыл бұрын

SAME!!!!! I would have thought better of the twins

@marksebree5218

2 жыл бұрын

@@jolynnjones8624 : Who says that they didn't? They may not have been able to figure out how to get past Fluffy. Harry, Ron, and Hermione had the hint from Hagrid. Fred and George did not.

@TheHappyPotatoe

Жыл бұрын

@@marksebree5218 plus they were in to braking rules but the moment they saw a three headed dog and would never go back not giving a thought to what it's potentially guarding

When I first saw "Goblet of Fire", I remember thinking that the cemetery statues looked a great deal like the chess pieces in "Philosopher's Stone". I count that as yet another example of foreshadowing. (8/7/2021)

@hermione_at_hogwarts

Жыл бұрын

They also thought that the chess pieces+ board looked like a graveyard.... They said it themselves, i think Harry did

@Arules54

Жыл бұрын

Wait is the day first or the month

Also in the Mirror room in the Philosopher's stone, Harry defeats Voldemort by his mother's blood protection. Voldy couldn't touch him that day. And yet again in Deathly Hallows, Dumbledore tells Harry at the mind's King's Cross that Voldemort taking his blood kept the Protection alive.

@DreadKyller

2 жыл бұрын

And Harry sees his parents in the mirror earlier in the Philosophers Stone, and he sees his parents again when he uses the resurrection stone in Deathly Hallows. Also Harry sees Aberforth through a mirror. Also another parallel to the protection was that Harry's intended sacrifice in the forest casted the same type of protection on those at Hogwarts.

Theory: Devil Snare was meant to be Neville's obstacle, because Dumbledore thought that he will come with them. Harry - keys (quidditch) Ron - chess Hermione - potions riddle

@jahvedcole

2 жыл бұрын

Was Neville proficient in Herbology during their first year? I don't really remember if that was mentioned in the first book. I know that he is pushed towards it and showed an aptitude for Herbology by their fourth year, but I'm not sure if he would've been that good at Herbology that early on.

@vanguardplays3418

2 жыл бұрын

if that's true then who was the troll for, Ron again?

@toschiworlds7212

2 жыл бұрын

@@vanguardplays3418 Maybe all of them combined?

@DarthAxolotl

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't there a couple of rooms that voldemort had already gone through

@vanguardplays3418

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarthAxolotl yeah he went through all of them before the golden trio did.

I think during the Wizards chess portion, Ron being injured and falling back while Harry proceeds on his own, encouraged by Hermione's faith in him, isn't foreshadowing Cedric's death in the Goblet of Fire, but instead foreshadows Ron's anger toward Harry over thinking he put his name in the goblet. He falls back, and for a large portion of the book, though he has Hermione's encouragement, Harry must be brave and proceed without his best friend.

Here a other connection between the mirror and the deathly hallows: in both of them, Snape is revealed to not be the bad guy.

One more thing for the Devil's Snare plant is the fact the womping willow that Ron and Harry crash into when arriving in the flying car at Hogwarts

@jaredbennett7677

2 жыл бұрын

ooh nice!

@exozfy

2 жыл бұрын

Bumping into a plant that initially saves you and then tries to murder you, quite a theme. Also both of them hide a secret passage

@highdefinition450

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm

It could be the "third floor" of Hogwarts but that part of the castle is more uphill so there isn't a second or first floor below it, just the ground.

@devanduckworth5709

2 жыл бұрын

That's not usually how buildings work

@notevanyoung

2 жыл бұрын

I assumed it was just the same spell used on the tent in goblet and Hermione‘s bag

@astaldogal

2 жыл бұрын

@@devanduckworth5709 they do in mountainous areas

@devanduckworth5709

2 жыл бұрын

@@astaldogal I live in mountains and I'm not saying that.

@devanduckworth5709

2 жыл бұрын

@@astaldogal to be fair though there are not many castles in Tennessee

Another chess connection: The plan to win is often intricate with many parts and many pieces, and Voldemort’s plan was also very intricate and had many parts and pieces on the board , but in the end , the intricate plan still falls based of one tiny details, even though Voldemort was very powerful, his simple enemy still thought of a way he didn’t see, which can happen in chess, and isn’t that rare

@archelynwolf

2 жыл бұрын

and that plan involved a sacrifice of the hero, as in chess sacrifices are not common but usually take a brilliant mind

@lisaandothers

2 жыл бұрын

I also find it very interesting that in PS Ron outsmarted McGonagall's chess with his strategic thinking and in DH he outsmarted the entrance to the chamber of secrets, by imitating a language he did not speak (parseltongue)

There is also another thing about the mirror of erised. It had the philosopher's stone in it, which can extend your life, basically cheating death. However, after a while, it's clear that the longer you stay alive, the more you're a shell of yourself. Nicholas Flamel is definitely an example of that. He was only in his 600s and yet was so frail physically that you couldn't touch him without nearly breaking him. He just looked like death in the fantastic beasts movies and was ready for death (no longer cared about making an elixir from the philosopher's stone). In the seventh book, you have the resurrection stone, hidden inside of a GOLDEN snitch, which is also a way to cheat death. However, the people who come back with that are also just shells of their former selves.

Gravity pulls at 9.8m/s². That squared is really important. It changes it from pulling at a steady speed (9.8m/s) to actually accelerating 9.8m/s every second.

@EthanMallonee

2 жыл бұрын

[they forgot the physics budget]

@codyfuller3766

2 жыл бұрын

That is capped at terminal velocity though which is about 120mph

@MontgomeryWenis

2 жыл бұрын

@@codyfuller3766 Yep, I'm aware. But it takes several more seconds than the Golden Trio fell.

@TheRavenCoder

2 жыл бұрын

I think it was a slip of the tongue, they got the time right (just over 4 seconds). Also, terminal velocity would not matter in this situation. It typically takes 5-10 seconds to reach terminal velocity in skydiver position. Could take even longer in other orientations.

@codyfuller3766

2 жыл бұрын

@@MontgomeryWenis I am well aware which is why the math in the video seems right Edit: I see you edited the original comment which makes my comments out of place now

One comparison you missed is that Harry compares the chess pieces to tombstones before he can see the properly. I don't know if that's movie-only, though: I can't remember that part in the book accurately.

@Liam_Daly

2 жыл бұрын

It's in the book "for a second Harry thought he had walked into a grave yard; dark statues crowded the room"

@nebelparder9

2 жыл бұрын

Until reading this, I was like "yeah ok, there are some parallels. It's cool, but could just be biased interpretation." Actually, trying to figure out the riddle before watching the video completely and messing up the order of the tasks, I also saw other connections. But with this extremely fitting parallel, I have a goose bumps and think "that theory is so legit!"

The troll is also the room where they don't have to do anything practical because of the current DADA prof. and ootp is the year they don't actually study DADA practically because of the DADA prof. The DH room is also when harry finds out snape was trying to save him and another parrallel is that harry finally comes face to face with voldemort. Its also the room that has a significantly powerful object that many people have "wasted away not knowing if what they have seen is real or even possible" this could represent the hunt for the hallows. The philosopher stone could also be foreshadowing the resurrection stone, both were previously in the possesion of dumbledore before harry.

It’s crazy how we are still talking about the books and movies still with new theories and new information. So timeless

Book 4 is also where Harry and Ron’s friendship was tested the most when the stopped speaking and then Harry saved Ron in the lake, and the chess game is where Harry almost looses Ron first, it’s how Dumbledore knows Ron will always want to come back

@sternentigerkatze

2 жыл бұрын

One could also see Wormtail as a chess piece of Voldemort's, Bertha Jorkins being a pawn for them. The different schools' plans and Voldemort's plan as different chess strategies.

@bradleyroswurm2706

2 жыл бұрын

Book 7 it’s tested as well

Also also actually actually, you missed the biggest foreshadowing in the entire first book! After the trio first learn of the three-headed dog, Hermoine famously says "Now, if you two don't mind, I'm going to bed before either of you come up with another clever idea to get us all killed, or worse, expelled." What spell does Harry use to beat the Killing Curse time and time again? *Expelliarmus*

@jennifercampbell2512

2 жыл бұрын

This!

@talibhussain5357

2 жыл бұрын

😁👍✨

@riluna3695

2 жыл бұрын

YOU DID NOT. Oh my lord that's spectacular.

@Kaiserin

2 жыл бұрын

That’s complete coincidence sorry buddy

@riluna3695

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kaiserin Always possible with theories like these. Pretty likely with this one. But it's fascinating to think it may have been intentional, and it's still fun to consider even if it never was. Either way, it gives me the happies.

Regarding Flitwick's obstacle: flying keys might also symbolize Sirius and Buckbeak flying to escape

@alexanderzack3720

Жыл бұрын

i think that stretches it a bit far... i always saw it in reverse: harry was the youngest seeker and one of the challanges was catching a fast-moving, flying trinket that is trying to get away. the challanges in general seem somewhat tailor made for the trio

To the point about the key room, book 3 is the only book where we have full descriptions of all of harry's quidditch matches, get updates on how the other teams are doing in their matches, and its the book where they finally win the quidditch cup!!! Over all it feels like the book where quidditch is most important!!!

You didn't mention that the wings of the keys can be seem as a nod to Buckbeak/Witherwing, given the fact Sirius escaped on him, the winged silver key can be seen as foreshadowing his escape.

@nataliabaszczyk2387

2 жыл бұрын

I Love that idea!

@delusionaldreamer8332

2 жыл бұрын

Witherwing?

@katherinkeegan8601

2 жыл бұрын

@@delusionaldreamer8332 The name Hargrid gives Buckbeck so the ministry would think he was a different animal.

@L0v3dNL0st

2 жыл бұрын

Also there's the fact that the key has been caught once before and treated incredibly poorly

@jeffdavis8590

2 жыл бұрын

@@delusionaldreamer8332 They renamed Buckbeak when he went back to Hogwarts.

Also, for the potions riddle, it’s just Harry and Hermione. And in Slighorns slug club it’s just Harry and Hermione

@loturzelrestaurant

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty Weak Arguments. Mattpat? Is that you?! Seriously, 'Silver Keys like the Colour of Patronus'?? Wow.

@DreadKyller

2 жыл бұрын

@@loturzelrestaurant Ah, I see you're also just copy-pasting your comment, further confirming that indeed you do not possess the concept of creativity.

@loturzelrestaurant

2 жыл бұрын

@@DreadKyller Wow. You really have this 'embarassing yourself by talking-down to strangers and just strangers' nailed down, yeah?

@loturzelrestaurant

2 жыл бұрын

@@DreadKyller You DO NOT realize how embarassing it is to see someone talk down to utter strangers online. Do you?

@rosyellis14

2 жыл бұрын

@@loturzelrestaurant …you do realize that that is exactly what you are doing…right?

This video reminds me of those conspiracy theory videos where they see the most random things in anything, then say "ah yes here you see the number 3 which confirms that teapots are in fact the illuminati". Point is, you can make anything predict anything if you just find the right details.

@Av-te7ze

Жыл бұрын

It’s just nitpicking, take these few small details about something and, AHA it means this. But there’s plenty of things that just mean nothing or “mean” things that wouldn’t point to that specific book. When it comes to Jk I never immediately go “she planned all this all along”

@jamesverone1244

Жыл бұрын

@@Av-te7ze yeah she never planned ahead I guarantee she saw theories and said "that's a good idea or I like that"

I was really confused about the troll connection until he mentioned Umbridge. Brilliant 😆

The fall could also represent the "slide" down into the chamber.

Also for the winged keys, sirius was the potters secret keeper(keyper more like), and the key to the potters(peter) had fallen into voldemorts hands in 1991 and again in PoA.

@TheRavenCoder

2 жыл бұрын

I think this is a far better point than any of the points J made. I thought he was kinda reaching for that one, but yours is a much more satisfying interpretation.

@courtneylowe7086

2 жыл бұрын

Peter was the key to both the potters and to Voldemort’s return…I agree, a very satisfying interpretation!

@AlphaOmega08922

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, Peter Pettigrew was the Potters' secret keeper. That simple fact is pretty much the entire reason that the series even happened at all. If James and Lily had made Sirius their secret keeper, then Voldemort never would have found and killed them, because Sirius would have died rather than give up his friends' location. I mean, it doesn't discredit the analogy here, as Pettigrew is still a significant character in PoA, and thus making a strong analogy between Flitwick's obstacle and the third book. Pettigrew was the "key" to reaching the Potters, and he first appears in the third book, while the third obstacle is Flitwick's flying keys. Still a good analogy, Sirius just isn't a part of that particular aspect. The broom Harry has to ride to catch the proper key would likely be a more appropriate analogy to Sirius, as the third book is when Harry loses his Nimbus 2000, and gets his Firebolt from Sirius in the end.

@pancakesarebetterthanwaffl3093

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlphaOmega08922 Sirius was their first secret keeper, before they changed it to Peter. Remus even says in PoA something along the lines of "unless you switched them and never told me" alluding to how the two switches roles. Both technically were secret keepers to the Potters, it's just that Peter overall had a far more significant plotline with the role since he is responsible for the Potters' death.

I just noticed something today in my listen through of the first book (Jim Dale audiobooks) that the nightmare Harry has in his first year after the first feast (end of Chapter 7) is really important too. He dreams that professor Quirrel’s turban is talking to him, saying his destiny is to be in Slytherin. When he protests it squeezes at him. Malloy laughs at him, and turns into Snape, then he sees the flash of green light. It’s interesting that Voldemort has access enough to Harry’s mind to present himself as his half form, even that early on. The connection between Draco and Snape is foreshadowed, even the fact that they both end up being similarly redeemed evil people.

You could also add that falling all the way down into the devil's snare was alluding to both where the chamber of secrets was situated (under the castle) and how the characters entered it (falling down the chute in the lavatory)

Ok, imagine Voldy playing chess with Harry. And then having a heated argument about the rules.

@DapperDan-zx9fu

2 жыл бұрын

White gos first voldy No black does it's so much cooler We've went over this five times just accept it NO!!!! AVADA KEDAVRA

@jellyforever2909

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine how much of a sore loser Voldemort would be

@mattschiesl3131

2 жыл бұрын

Ah Potter I see you have used the Scillian Defense, I have forseen this and...Wait no. I didn't touch that piece! It didn't count, i didn't move it! No I did not, that doesn't count!

@jaredbennett7677

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@highdefinition450

2 жыл бұрын

Why

Why did Barty Crouch Jr quit drinking? It was making him Moody

@thedragonwarrior5861

2 жыл бұрын

Is it bad if I genuinely liked this?

@shreberry5164

2 жыл бұрын

Such a classic but SO good.

@shreberry5164

2 жыл бұрын

@@thedragonwarrior5861 Nope

Rowling actually did say that she had to re-write the first chapter of Book 1 over and over because it kept giving away everything in the whole series. Therefore, it makes sense that she would have found a way to incorporate hints of the rest of the series within the first book.

The exact imagery and parallels might not have been intended from the beginning, but J.K. Rowling was absolutely aware of the story structure and no doubt built the seven books and the seven trials around the same framework.

I love how poetic it is. Especially mirror and Deathly Hallows. Also Dumbledore said that Harry was worthy to unite the Hallows because he did not want this - just like the mirror and Philosophers Stone! 😀

Witches and Wizards seem to be resilient to skull fractures. They fall to great heights but the worst injury they can get is a broken arm. Remember when Newt gave Jacob the helmet at chest plate before they approached the Erumpent? Jacob asked why he needed to wear a helmet, and Newt simply answered, "Because your skull is susceptible to breakage under immense force." And yeah, Newt clearly told Jacob beforehand that their physiologies are different because Jacob's a muggle. When Nivelle Longbottom was young (and still figuring out if he is a wizard), he fell off a window and survived, much to his aunt and uncle's delight because it means he's not a squib. So Harry, Ron, and Hermoine falling from such a great height will not really hurt them that much. But I wonder if a muggle fell from that height, will he or she survive the fall? So that's a theory that I want to hear. How different are the physiologies between Muggles and Wizards?

@michaelwicks1088

2 жыл бұрын

interesting theory, I hate to be that person, but Neville fell not that far when his broomstick played up in Philosophers Stone and he broke his wrist. But I still agree with your idea. Maybe even his injury was consistent of that of a Witch/Wizard and a Muggle would have been worse off??

@gsagabaen

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelwicks1088 Harry also fell off his broom from a quidditch game and broke his arm. But that's all he sustained from it.

@christina3537

2 жыл бұрын

Hey maybe wizards and witches’ magic give them sort of a protection to their bones unknowingly

@michaelwicks1088

2 жыл бұрын

@@gsagabaen yeah that's what I mean, probably have "stronger" bodies / physiology than muggles. Also weird how Newt Scamander gives protection to Jacob and implies that the beast would crush him. Like how wouldn't it not crush Newt? somehow I doubt he wouldn't be crushed by the beast (I forget its name)

@Wladeex123

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelwicks1088 To be honest, I think it's less of a biological difference and more their subconscious self performing simple wandless magic. We see stuff happening that's a result of a non-verbal magic with no wand required. Harry's hair regrowing at a great rate after being cut by his aunt, Tom Riddle being able to use magic before even meeting Dumbledore, or the surrey zoo glass window disappearing when Harry was angry. I'd argue that if things like these can happen - why wouldn't be there a layer of protection when being subjected to the obvious threat of injury and while being concentrated to avoid it (and we know that there are spells that can, for example, slow/stop someone's fall/movement)?

Doylesian explanation: Rowling loves symmetry (The final battle also reflects the events of the entire series). Holmesian explanation: Dumbledore is a seer and planned it all deliberately to prepare the trio for the next seven years.

The last obstacle: you missed this similarity ….. this is Dumbledore‘s obstacle and we learn about Dumbledore in deathly hallows

For the troll room, the troll was defeated by someone else. Just like Dumbledore and the Phoenix lot defeated Voldemort and his death eaters at the ministry.

Real Life Rowling: Dang, this theory is good. I just picked random things. Social Media Rowling: It’s about time somebody discovered my cleverly layered plans.

@FantasticBeasts2024

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair. She did plan the entire seven books in advance. She calls it one large story which she wrote into 7 parts for our convenience.

@sand747

2 жыл бұрын

Rowling: Women who are infertile are men.

@sapphireseptember

2 жыл бұрын

@@sand747 When did she say that?

@sand747

2 жыл бұрын

@@sapphireseptember twitter

@sapphireseptember

2 жыл бұрын

@@sand747 I've seen her Twitter, where does she say women who are infertile are men?

I would also add that the challenge with the keys is about getting through a door, kind of like the dreams about the door in the ministry, or has links to the veil. And the mirror at the end reminds me alot of the resurrection stone, when he first finds the mirror, it mirrors nicely with seeing his dead love ones at the end

Also GoF is the most complicated in terms of characters and solving the game until the very end when the last move is made. It is the book with the most mystery in it with several grey characters that could be the bad guy to end the game. Ludo Bagman, Barty Crouch Sr., Barty Crouch Jr., Karkaroff, Snape, and so on. Like a game of chess with many figures.

I think it was meant to be really light forshadowing (Like each task sort of reminds you of something important in each book), not quite as deep as you took it. But yeah, it totally all adds up. Fluffy = Hagrid Devil's Snare = Snakes Flying Keys = Quidditch (Harry's third year is the first time he wins the quidditch cup) Chess = Games/sports Troll = (This one is up to interpretation, could represent Umbridge, or schoolwork) Potions Test = Snape Mirror = Dumbledore (It's interesting how he plays an even more important role after he dies)

Wouldn't you just love to see the list of creatures Hagrid is allowed to keep at the school?

In book 1 hagrid giving Harry the flute to battle fluffy can elude to hagrid taking hagrid to diagon alley to purchase his wand, a tool he would use to battle Voldemort. Going through the fire alone show the final battle would end in a 1on1.

Another interesting point in Harry and Voldemort being inverse mirrors of each other is that Harry has green eyes and shoots out a red spell, the Disarming Charm, while Voldemort had red eyes and shot out the green spell of the Killing Curse. Also, was it the same as in /The Goblet of Fire/ in which their two colliding spells turned gold in the middle? There's the gold created by the Philosopher's Stone, if so. :)

Remember the spell Fred and George gave Ron to turn scabbers Yellow? What if the the reason it didn't work wasn't because they were messing with him but because he wasn't an actual rat and was foreshadowing for him being an Animagus

@shreberry5164

2 жыл бұрын

ya...... judging by Seamus I was expecting the wand to do something funky. In the movie, a golden flash appears, but in the book nothing happens. This would explain it.

There's also the fact that Harry sees his loved ones in the mirror of Erised and Harry sees his loved ones in the 7th book.

something that has always fascinated me is just how much was set up in the Chamber of Secrets that had pay-offs in the later books house-elves, the borrow, Mundungus Fletcher, Cornelius Fudge, Lucius Malfoy, the Whomping Willow, Fawkes, polyjuice potion, squibs, Expelliarmus, Floo power, almost every harry looks at in Borgin and Burkes (which include Draco Malfoy's hand-of-glory, the necklace that curses Katie Bell in book 6, and The Vanishing cabinet) the four founders, the Headmaster's office, Azkaban, The sword of Gryffindor, and freakin Horcruxes, And that just off the top of my head without rereading the book im sure there is more that i didnt catch or think of

The biggest connection in Year 5 wasn't even mentioned. Tonks always stumbles over a troll foot broom holder at Grimauld Place 12

So.. Voldy wanted to split his soul into seven. He wanted to do this because he believed the number was especially magical/powerful. But do we ever find out if it actually affects anything? Like, this LITERALLY sets up the whole plot!

@blakechow8294

2 жыл бұрын

7th like

@blankflank3488

2 жыл бұрын

I looked it up, and there's actually an article on the Harry Potter wiki about the significance of the number seven. there's a LOT, most just tiny details like the number of letters in a name, but the sheer number of times the number 7 is used is pretty crazy.

@talathien8771

2 жыл бұрын

@@blankflank3488 7 is the number of perfection, which is why Voldy thought it was the most powerfully magical number.

@Irdesce

2 жыл бұрын

So voldy got his "perfect" 7 part soul right after trying to kill toddler harry when he died the first time and the entire time he has a 7 part soul is when he is at his absolute weakest because when he become babymort one of the first things he does is make that 7 horcrux when for a 7 part soul he wanted 6.

@rowan3355

2 жыл бұрын

@Colin McCrory i had a thought - you know how the soul gets more unstable the more split up it is? well maybe the 7 parts _multiplied_ the weakness and that’s why his soul was so unstable during the time he had 7

Calculating how far and fast they fell is so MatPat I thought you'd make a corny pun and say, "REMEMBER, that's just a theory, a FILM theory aaaaaaaaaaaandddddd CUT"

@coolgreenbug7551

2 жыл бұрын

or pull an Austin and start ranting about acceleration while classical music plays in the background

@zebjensen4251

2 жыл бұрын

a but theory. and the end!

@highdefinition450

2 жыл бұрын

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@coolgreenbug7551

2 жыл бұрын

@@highdefinition450 kzread.info/dash/bejne/YqehtM2hdbLcZLQ.html

I thought the chess set was supposed to be linked to the battle of hog warts where mcgonagal uses the same sort of magic as the set but on a much much larger scale with stone people and ron being injured could be a foreshadow to another weasley dying in that war

You could also say in the potion room that Hermione is trying to figure out a riddle. Just like Harry and dumbledore do in HBP. Figure out a riddle

Harry Potter is such a well crafted story it’s honestly a great reminder to plan out things so you can plant super subtle foreshadowing that’s not discovered until years later and also deliver the most satisfying payoffs (also a really off topic side note but I would love to see you guys cover the Dune series)

the Mirror of Erised could also represent that Harry looked into the piece of mirror he got from Sirius to ask Aberforth "DUMBLEDORE" for help....the Mirror of Erised was Albus "DUMBLEDORE's" obstacle....and Albus (A DUmbledore) said, "Help will always be given to those at Hogwarts who ask for it." later amended to "Help will always be given to those at Hogwarts who deserve it."...in Philosopher's stone, Harry looked into Albus "Dumbledore's" mirror for help to fight Quirrell and got it....in Deathly Hallows, Harry looked into Aberforth "Dumbledore's" mirror for help to escape Malfoy Manor and got it

@anneclough7064

2 жыл бұрын

Also we know that earlier in the book Harry had seen his family with him, reflected in the mirror. In the Epilogue of the seventh book we see that Harry now has his own family with him fulfilling that desire he had back when he was a child.

@livvyginnygrey4001

2 жыл бұрын

Ha I liked this just because of the number of times you said Dumbledore

I think another connection between the potions and Half- Blood Prince is how at the end of the room, Hermione is left behind, leaving Harry to go on by himself. Hermione, the genius, the one with all the answers, the one who guided Harry throughout their investigation, is suddenly taken away from Harry, who has to face Voldemort without her. Just like how Dumbledore is suddenly taken away at the end of Half-Blood Prince.

Another note about the Chess Room is that the chess room is when Ron separates from Harry and Hermione. In Goblet of Fire Ron is upset with Harry for a good portion of the book and they aren’t speaking

Something you missed in order of the Phoenix is that toncs keeps tripping over the troll leg

So what happened to Fluffy after Philosopher's stone? Maybe Hagrid found somewhere for him in the forest? Or does he live behind Hagrid's hut and go on walks with Fang?

@jaredbennett7677

2 жыл бұрын

id love to hear if this is explored anywhere :)

This was actually a surprisingly good and well-fitting theory regardless of whether or not it was intended to be foreshadowing. Really interesting break-down of all the obstacles as well. Not that I would expect anything less from this channel!

BTW, Jay, I noticed that the flying key obstacle could also signify how, in the third book, Harry keeps on being offered false explanations (read: false keys) for the Sirius Black situation, but he still manages to find the truth in the end.

The key they have to look out for in the third room had its wing broken by an agent of voldemort, symbolizing how Sirius lost his freedom through the actions of Peter.

@latortugapicante719

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t it make more sense that the key is Peter and he has a lost finger

@AlphaOmega08922

2 жыл бұрын

@@latortugapicante719 basically this, yes

It really wouldn't surprise me if JK had a loose outline, for example that each book focused around one subject, charma, transfiguration etc. I think it could have a grain of truth in it. Remember as well that she studied myth and folklore at university, this kind of foreshadowing happens all the time in classic myth.

@lisaandothers

2 жыл бұрын

We definitely see spells taught in everyday classes that we don't suspect how important they will later come to be, like wingardium leviosa (troll incident) and accio (dragon task in the triwizard tournament). Not to mention the bezoar, which is mentioned in the first class of potions and it plays a key role in HBP

Another fun connection between the fifth book and the troll room is that opposite the Room of Requirement hangs the tapestry of Barnabas the Barmy getting beaten by trolls because he's trying to teach them ballet.

The 300 foot drop before the snare represents dobby warning of not to come to school and Harry falls because of a bludger in the book.

Lockhart was A bad guy, but not THE bad guy. His bad guy-ness was unrelated to the main plot.

@TheRavenCoder

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, it's Pretty Obvious.

@ItBePatYo

2 жыл бұрын

While he was a bad guy, I'd say he's less of a bad guy and more of an idiot. If that makes any sense.

@carlrood4457

2 жыл бұрын

@@ItBePatYo Remember, he regularly lobotomized wizards to take credit for their actions and was willing to do it to two children. That's a bad guy.

@ItBePatYo

2 жыл бұрын

@@carlrood4457 I thought he just performed a curse of some sort on them. I may be wrong, but that's what I thought happened.

@starlight0313

2 жыл бұрын

@@ItBePatYo obliviate

Did quirrel go try the obstacles before the night when he actually met Harry at the mirror? Like did he go through all the obstacles and come back, figure out how to get through them, then return and try the remaining ones? Or did he do it all in one go after he learned fluffys weakness

@jettqk1

2 жыл бұрын

I think he was waiting for Dumbledore to leave the castle before trying to get past Fluffy. So he would have had to wait until that night.

I think that all of these references and foreshadowing are a lot more symbolic than physical is the book. For example, in the Deathly Hallows, Harry spends a lot of time questioning himself, and the mirror could stand to show his self reflection. I also think that the Devils Snare could show the grimness of the Chamber of Secrets. During that book, nobody knows who to trust, everyone is second guessing and becoming suspicious of others. Its kind of like what Luna said in the Phoenix movie: Voldemort is trying to split everyone apart because they are less of a threat alone. The vines of the grim period are splitting them apart, capturing them in the time, making them vulnerable. Anyway, just some thoughts from someone who has read the series too many times.

Never in my life would I think about this theory but it fits SO WELL! Oh my gosh! And also in Philosopher’s Stone Harry sees his parents and then in Deathly Hallows Harry sees all his parental figures (including his actual parents) once he has the stone

I think it says a lot about the author and what kind of writer she is, that there's definitely a pattern here, and even more repeated trends than was pointed out in the video. It's a very good series.

I think the winged key obstacle could also represent buckbeak being the winged key to freeing Sirius at the end of prisoner.

I have heard this theory before and I feel like it all fits. The other one I read about and found fitted well was that the middle book, "Goblet" was a mirror and the books on each side of it reflected each other. "Azkaban" and "Phoenix", "Chamber" and "Prince" then "Stone" and "Hallows". These books are pairs with comparing and contrasting features. For example; Hagrid brings Harry to the Dursleys in "Stone" and he takes him from the Dursleys in "Hallows". Ron and Harry use Polyjuice to become Crabbe and Goyle to find out Draco's secrets in "Chamber" and Crabbe and Goyle use Polyjuice in "Prince" to protect Draco's secrets. We meet Sirius in "Azkaban" and he dies in "Phoenix". There were other instances for each pair of books. I think it is fascinating.

Hey brother! Y’all brighten my day every Tuesday and Thursday!

you missed that in the chess challenge, Ron gets separated from the rest, and in the Goblet of Fire, what happens? He gets jealous and stops hanging out with Harry.

@thedragonwarrior5861

2 жыл бұрын

And again in Deathly Hallows

wow, you really have me here. most of the video i was like 'no this is all just sorting out the things that fit so ist seems about right but isnt' but in the end, i'm just convinced. This is so good, and beautiful. i was always wondering why the kids had to face so many obstacles in the end of the first book while in the other ones i feel like they are always facing just one main evil.

Not to mention in the battle of hogwarts everything is recapped, troll, spiders, dementors etc. Very clever indeed!

You just made me rethink the first two books in the first minute

"I guess Snape wasn't technically a bad guy.... NOT A GREAT GUY THOUGH!" 😂🤣 ❤️🙌

@angra7

2 жыл бұрын

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I was going to add, Snape's puzzle is also a reminder that Harry, in the six book, does not actually learn potions, only to read the book and solve the "potion puzzles", just like the sixth challange, doesn't require knowing potions!

Three point of foreshadowing in the challenges was firstly the fact that the 5th challenge was a defense against the dark arts challenge, in the 5th book Harry was the real defense against the dark arts teacher. Secondly also in the 5th Harry didn't beat the troll, that could foreshadow his inability to beat Voldemort's plan(the 5th was Querills work) and needing help. Then lastly the 6th challenge where Harry had to go on alone, may foreshadow the death of Dumbledore, and the feeling of being truly alone and solely responsible for his future.

May have paid the math budget… forgot the PHYSICS budget -speed of gravity- : should be *ACCELERATION* of gravity 9.8 m/s/s

@claytonschmohe1786

2 жыл бұрын

Probably just misspoke bc they knew they weren't just falling at 9.8 m/s

@MsXmaster666

2 жыл бұрын

so the script checking budget was forgotten

Okay, when I first clicked on this I thought J was going to say each room represents one of the Horcuxes not books. Fluffy = Diary, Devil's Snare = Locket, Keys = Ring, Chess = Diadem, Troll = Nagini, Mirror = Harry But that is so not where he took this lol. Really liked it though!

@ruthdeckman9781

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, that's interesting! I kind of like your theory a bit better.

@yoda2495

2 жыл бұрын

@@ruthdeckman9781 though needs further explanation this thepry does

@ruthdeckman9781

2 жыл бұрын

@@yoda2495 how has my favorite Jedi master been lately? Good, I hope! 😃

@xsah2

2 жыл бұрын

How would chess = diadem and fluffy = diary though

@kimbit47

2 жыл бұрын

@@xsah2 chess for intellect which is part of the powers that are give too those that where the crown and fluffy and diary as the are "common" and somewhat unassuming.

10:47 I was thinking that since you brought up that the troll was in the 5th room xD

I really thought you were going to make a joke that the three headed dog foreshadows that a dog shows up in book three. It's perfect! Thanks so much for the video, I adored every single comparison!

Philosopher’s Stone = The Simpsons Cause they both predict everything

@nfwarrior3000

2 жыл бұрын

They have a less than 3% success rate

Kevin Feige: Avengers Endgame is the most ambitious crossover ever. Mike, J and Ben: Hold our Butterbeer (Or Firewhiskey if you prefer)

@exozfy

2 жыл бұрын

I'm looking forward to the podcast episode!

@mailyak442

2 жыл бұрын

YES OH MY GOD IM UNBELIEVABLY EXCITED HAHA 😅 I DIDN’T EVEN KNOW IF THEY KNEW OF EACH OTHER’S EXISTENCE!!

To be fair, Dark Souls’ Basement Key opens a door at the top of a towering bridge, leading to a long ladder to the bottom layer of the city. So it’s not like Hogwarts is the only place with weird basement door locations.

1:00 Well in Hargid's defence Fluffie is well trained and can be easily put to sleep.

"Unbridged is a troll" Chokes on lunch yogurt. 😀

Here's a new One for you. I don't know of it's really accurate, but Snape never seems to teach by the book, he always Just writes the potion on the blackboard. Could that be the real reason for Hermione doing poorly in HBP while Harry does well? Hermione doesn't have Snape's corrections anymore and so She looks limited. Harry however still has Snape's corrections, but Snape himself Is not there ti torment him and so he can actually focus and enjoy the class, getting better results

@lisaandothers

2 жыл бұрын

I've thought about it, too. She can definitely brew great potions by following book instructions (like the polyjuice potion), but it is possible that school manuals were more simplified, thus limiting the potential of the potions

Haven’t watched the whole video yet, but actually at the Greenbriar Resort in West Virginia the secret entrance to the underground nuclear bunker was actually accessed from the second floor. It was done that way on purpose because people expected it to be underground. In reality it was built into the side of the mountain. This is actually readily verifiable now and I was actually there about 8 years ago. It was quite an experience.

"Does anyone else enter their basement from the third floor of their house?" Well, in Curse of Strahd, you enter the basement from the attic :)