Other classes: You gain X and in additional, you gain Y. Meanwhile Sorcs: You gain X, but you lose Y.

@CarySmith87

Жыл бұрын

And negatively affected by Z as a result 🤣

The best part of Sorcerer is when you’re at 100% health, you’re 99% dead.

@oleg187er

Жыл бұрын

I felt that

@mikeguerrero7416

Жыл бұрын

Corps bow makes its appearance 😂.

@napaquatics3639

Жыл бұрын

Best comment.

@drakness1520

Жыл бұрын

Lmao so true 😂

@Dante6488

Жыл бұрын

Playing sorc, im crying 😭

Once you hit post game/above level 50, the damage drop off for sorcerers in WT3 and WT4 is just insane. You have to play a very specific build that is carefully crafted or you just do nothing in comparison to the other classes. If you don't play an ice build, you just can't measure up at all. It makes the class way less fun and almost boring. Even then, the best sorcerer build lags behind the other classes when it comes to damage and, as you said, you have to go all in on offense which makes you very lacking in defense compared to everyone else. It makes it so all defensive skills are practically a must.

I grinded sorcerer to 90+ thinking this was the best class I could have possibly chosen. I grinded Rogue to like 65 and wondering why I was playing on Sorcerer this whole time. With sorcerer I struggle with some elites while on rogue I clear entire dungeons without even remembering if I saw one lol

@GoreTheSummoner

Жыл бұрын

yea but rouge makes those retarded noises..

@eyezwideshut

Жыл бұрын

I'm lower tier but I've noticed the same thing with my friend rogue It's so OP

@uglyfoox8964

Жыл бұрын

Rouge is too easy. My alt rogue lv 65 killed the butcher easily in tier4 and my sorc was having trouble.

@TheBlakamon15

Жыл бұрын

I hope you were not using twisted blades or death trap because those are the exact same situation as using ice Shards on a sorc.

@eyezwideshut

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBlakamon15 what's the situation?

Everyday, more sorc players are showing their frustrations. I thought it is just only me but i was wrong. I am definitely playing other class in season 1.

@rsrmayhem

Жыл бұрын

... and you will have same or even more frustration

@hairyballsagna420

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s ridiculous that other classes are wayyy more capable. Lvl 100 sorc and rerolling.

@akhsdenlew1861

Жыл бұрын

that's becouse sorc was really good at 50-70 content, so everybody was just.. having a blast. Then they started to hit 75... 80.. 85 and even worse, 90+.. and they started to do High nightmare dungeons. The changes to the exp helped to bring the "big" sorc audience to the late game... which is why the frustration of the sorc is showing now. Before you would see high end lvl sorcs expressing their frustration, but they would get stopped from low level sorcs around level 60 with phrases like " bruh, i am lvl 60 and i destroy stuff, you need to git gut and fix ur build" and stupid shit like that. Now all these stupid people are also 80-90... and now they finally understand.

@rsrmayhem

Жыл бұрын

This is ruining my plans to make a sorcerer for the first season... 😵

@akhsdenlew1861

Жыл бұрын

@@rsrmayhem why the fuck would u make sorc for season 1? absolutly not.. go for druid.. or at least rogue.

If there are no more changes before Season 1, I think sorcerer is going to go from the most played class to the least played. I'm certainly not playing it again in its current state, as much as I absolutely love the class itself.

@Aka_daka

Жыл бұрын

Same, I'm playing Barb atm after getting my sorc to 100 if they don't make it more competitive, I'll play something that is easier to play & way more powerful.

@semi6544

Жыл бұрын

@@Aka_daka -- I played Sorcerer to 93 currently, 2x Druids to 52 & 54, Warrior to 32, and Necro to 39. Sorcerer was by far the easiest to play. I wouldn't say it was the easiest to live but definitely the easiest to play. Teleport just trivializes so many mechanics. Blink stun makes so many AoE packs so much easier. I have played: Meteor Sorc Ball Lightning Sorc Chain Lightning Sorc Arc Lightning Sorc Ice Shard Sorc Blizzard Sorc If they give us a 3rd enchant slot and I can use the flame shield cheat death, I'll probably pick Sorc for season 1. One day they will fix resistances and our Intelligence stacked class will finally have a real defensive benefit.

@_Ignition

Жыл бұрын

This

@lbpiercy

Жыл бұрын

@@semi6544 My Sorc is 80 and doing shards. which buld is the best to get to 100?

@johnnyoost1144

Жыл бұрын

Yes! It's so much fun. I'm playing a blizz ice spike build and enjoying it so much. Started clearing 40+ nm's - then I do a simple whisper dungeon and get one shotted 3 times in a row.. like wth?

You hit it on the head. I feel like when I teleport in everything either lines up perfectly and all mobs get deleted, or nothing lines up and I have to kite them around until everything comes off of cool down.

It's a shame because sorc has so many interesting modifiers to change things up - ball lighting orbiting you, fireballs bouncing, homing charged bolts, etc. Unfortunately it's almost always better to have boring damage increases. I'd love to see aspects be more focussed on personal choice / expression than being directly related to damage.

@TheRetlaw54

Жыл бұрын

That’s something else that needs to change. The whole here your skill gets changed to do this ohh but you lose this is stupid and annoying

@nanashiryuu5630

Жыл бұрын

All of those reduce the dmg of the skill in question. Sorc is the ONLY CLASS THAT HAS THIS STUPID FUCKING DOUBLE EDGED SWORD MECHANIC. Fireball bounce! But it's dmg reduced by 60%... Lightning spear pierces! But it's dmg decreased by 40%.. Meanwhile fcking necromancer bone spear gets flat 200% dmg. Druid gets flat 200% while modifying the ability Ina positive way. Barb has 4 weapons and stacks ALL of the affixes in their stat sheet meaning they have 400%+ crit dmg, overpower dmg etc... Sorcerer is fcking ass

@GoreTheSummoner

Жыл бұрын

the most boring shit is seeing ice shards/blizz sorcs around lolol.

@Ender7j

Жыл бұрын

My stun/CE/lightning spear sorc is pretty good. I rarely die and melt just about everything. I’ve got some healing from burning enemies (Fire Shield) and a few other key aspects I can’t live without but it’s pretty good and does not do a ton of damage. I don’t have to when everything is napping until I send them to the shadow realm.

@Seanidor

Жыл бұрын

The aspect for the lightning ball orbiting around you seems to be bugged. When you put the aspect on a two-hander it can potentially reduce it's damage by a whole 40%, it's supposed to make it better, not worse. 😞

Pushing to 100 and really be struggling on 60-70s nightmares, I play to avioid ALL damage and my build is almost as good as it gets Corpse bows are an issue, they need less range or a wind up before an attack. You should feel stupid for getting nailed by a corpse bow, not feel like you were cheated. the ghost types are waaaay too mobile for ranged type mobs and the projectiles are either too fast, or the hit boxes and tracking are broken. banshees/wraiths are over tuned in general. Teleporter damage needs to be significantly reduced or straight up replaced with a CC along with the DOT damage before an ice bomb goes off. They both one shot you before you can react and there is no work around. Blood boil can’t be damaged by half of sorc skills None of the affixes should one shot you no matter what.

@akhsdenlew1861

Жыл бұрын

Corpse bows are literally killing you from off screen for no reason lol. And the ghosts are stupid cus they suddenly appear in the whole room out of nowhere and they 1 shot u.

Sorcerer used to have 3 enchantment slots during closed beta, and they took it away via nerf.

@tropingreenhorn

Жыл бұрын

Thats stupid, we really only have 1 slot since the firebold enchantment is mandatory on most builds. Another terrible design and balance decision from blizzard

@aolmonkey

Жыл бұрын

Yep blizzard took one of the best fathers clause and for whatever reason decided to nap and try to balance it on level 25 which is not the end game at all whatsoever now they can’t even fix it until season two somebody effed it up somewhere bad

@thegreatest7643

Жыл бұрын

3rd enchantment returning $oon.

@Tarrimaster

Жыл бұрын

​@@thegreatest7643so true

@drakness1520

Жыл бұрын

@@thegreatest7643it has to and it’s not going to solve the problem it needs more rework

4:35 one of the even worse things is that no matter what u play, u always play crit chance, cdr, crit dmg and not ele dmg, ele crit and such to actually utilize ele dmg

Making Enchantment Master give an additional enchantment slot actually makes a lot of sense. Nice suggestion.

Same it's been a pain to play Sorcerer. For sure starting s1 with a different character.

Went from Mack trucking everything to having to wait for cooldown if I don’t eat the entire mob up on the first kit dump, I’m making a struggling bid at no fire bolt passive and only teleport and frost nova. TRYING to be a viable lightning mage lol, level 93 and still going so hopefully it’s working. Great vid, in depth, nailed how it feels to be a sorc. Atm.

Great analysis, spot on. Was just saying the same thing to someone last night, it's the same three skills for every sorc build. Wish you would do the same for other classes, you have a keen eye for analysis.

For me, I'm level 90 on my Sorceress. And she was amazing early on. Very versatile and fun to play. But level 50 was a hard stop. Really had to invest into a build and legendary aspects became very limited very quickly. And thats the sum of the whole build. It was amazingly versatile... until it wasn't. It became you NEED the aspect, This Paragon Board, This enchantment is required, this unique... it wasn't so much make a build in a variety of builds as much as it was, you have to run this and only this... and even then, you're relatively weaker than everyone else. I feel Necromancer feels that way going into end game as well. It went from being the most balanced, not to strong, not to weak and fun regardless of element... to very restrictive, weak in pvp, low damage outside rotation, and even the best damage isn't from a skill at all. Its from a legendary drop. Ice spikes are crazy strong, but they aren't my ability. Its a by product of a legendary aspect... I can't express how dumb that is. No matter how many points I put into any other skill, 1 aspect is just better outright.

@SifGreyfang

Жыл бұрын

My necromancer relies on minions and shadow damage till I reached world tier 4. Now my minions can't even survive that long. I hate it when I can't play how I want to play and I have to rely on a specific build.

@claudijatzandrapova3347

Жыл бұрын

I feel you, I got one of our Aspects that allows our Currents ult to be cast without activating it and it's so fun. I also have Frozen Orb with Firebolt as the free tracking orb is really helpful to keeping up Vulnerable on enemies

Give us an extra ring slot. The barbarian gets 10000 weapons, and the rogue gets extra weapons, too.😤

@cinifiend

Жыл бұрын

I don't know if that would solve anything. The problem with sorc is that you have to use burning enchantment and mass defensive skills or you are gimped. You also either do insane damage or no damage at all, other classes have much more consistent DPS especially against bosses.

@jordanbeaudoin8425

Жыл бұрын

Better yet, another amulet. Roll out my Sorc and name him TwoChainz

@darthbane2669

Жыл бұрын

Give us a companion lime we had in 2 that gave you amazing buffs like infinite mana practically you didn't need a lucky chance to do damage

@CarySmith87

Жыл бұрын

Or make it possible to use the focus WITH a staff even! I've never seen my sorcerer grip the staff with both hands so it can be done lol lol

@pronick619

Жыл бұрын

3rd enchantement slot would make more sense

Survivability is the biggest problem: this can be fixed reworking some nodes in the paragon board, introducing new leggendary aspects for sorc or allowing a third enchantment slot

@eliashabash7591

Жыл бұрын

sorc needs a 20% passive increase to armor. whatever armor total you have needs to be multiplied by 1.2

The entire D4 youtube community Collectively trolled people (me included) into picking Sorc... GUYS ITS THE BEST CLASS 2 weeks later WELL THAT WAS A FUCKING LIE

@muggyrx4810

Жыл бұрын

i feel the same

Blizz needs to prioritize the resistance fix for s1 OR make some short term buffs to help out sorc survivability until s2.

In dungeons I can fly through im safer fighting a pack of 30 elites than i am looking for more mobs with nothing on my screen, that's just silly. Give me one shot protections from normal mobs once every minute or 2 at 100%hp, or increase the mob density by 100% already, or make my shields last 30-40% longer. Getting one shot off screen by a normal archer minion because my shields fell of while full health is ridiculous.

I have a lot of fun with Sorc, but I feel like I spend most of my build and aspects on defenses. The intense focus on defenses just to not get one shotted feels bad. I would really like to see qanother enchantment slot available, and some options to get armor on the paragon board. I didn't see much on the paragon board that seems good at all. Definitely needs work.

@cranstonha6474

Жыл бұрын

that sounds like a skill issue, we're glass cannons. dont get hit and dish out dps. ez win

i've come up with a couple solutions i really like to help sorcerer. #1 - allow crowd control effects to apply at 0% effectiveness to unstoppable enemies and bosses. that allows us to get our damage bonuses and damage mitigation effects that are based upon affecting crowd controlled enemies. #2 - buff enchantment master on the paragon board to be 100% increased effect of enchants. this is a large buff to many enchants, and would be a strong enough incentive to consider dropping firebolt enchant (as 100% increased effect of those tiny burns wouldn't mean much, but a 100% increase to another enchant might be worth considering).

@healthymindhappierlife5089

Жыл бұрын

Love #2. You would definitely shake up the meta with that change. Hard to say how the cards would fall though, alot of the enchantments arent even numerical.

Before the beta I remember seeing a legendary aspect that increased the amount of charged bolts you release when you cast it. That didnt make it obviously.

@DoPtRiGGa

Жыл бұрын

Used to have 3 enchantment slots too.

@r.d.6290

Жыл бұрын

There was one for chain lightning, increasing it damage when reflected from character. Could not find it in release.

@kevinsims5791

Жыл бұрын

@@r.d.6290 maybe they replaced that with that paasive for chain lightning that does 10% increased damage each time it reflects off of you. There is one that gives it a chance to ricochet 2 additional times

they should change some of the mandatory "while burning" effects to be "while affected by an elemental ailment"

@Tenkiei

Жыл бұрын

That would definitely help, at the moment I'm not sure lightning inflicts any ailments, but crackling energy or the "shock" effects that reduce enemy damage could be rolled into that somehow.

At the moment Sorc is just about the squisher class, with very little survivability with a very limited immunity cooldown (fire shield) and that all in trade for the lowest dps. The worst class for end game, I am quitting playing at level 75, and only coming back to the game whenever they fix it Season 1 or 5, whatever. What blows my mind is that they keep buffing other classes and holding back on Sorc. The coolest skills animations with the worst outcome, dead class for me and not even thinking in leveling another character before they get their shit together.

@fleckens

Жыл бұрын

At 75 sorc is still solid, I’ve played sorc to 97 and a druid to 100(last 10 or so levels were after exp buff) and it wasn’t until 90+ that I really felt the druid being better, and at low level it felt significantly worse.

@flyingVesp

Жыл бұрын

@@fleckens I just did a legion event and my Lvl 84 Sorc dps is dwarfed horribly against a lvl 70+ bone spear necro.....😶

@fleckens

Жыл бұрын

@@flyingVesp I mean he's fighting same level mobs to him so the level doesn't really matter too much there, it only matters in nm dungeons. If anything he's probably in a better spot if he's managed to get some good ancestral gear as that's probably one of the points where you are strongest in scaled content. But also how did you compare your damage exactly, only way I can think of is who could kill the structures fastest but sorc is terrible at those because all of damage is based on the mob being cc'd, and I don't believe things like freeze work on those.

@SeanStaxxMusic

Жыл бұрын

Haha the game has been out for 4 weeks! Have some patience, they seem to be listening to the community and making changes as fast as they can which is sadly better than majority of gaming companies right now. (Sorc main btw)

@akhsdenlew1861

Жыл бұрын

@@SeanStaxxMusic no they don't... they were nerfing like crazy at the 1st week, they nerfed barb 55 times to a point that WW is shit. They nerfed ARC LASH out of all things, which is not even that good. And they nerfed sorc to the GROUND based on a 25 lvl twink beta test. They nerfed align the elements from 5 down to 1... that's like what? 400-500% nerf or smt? Protection from 5 down to 2? another 200% nerf or smt? They are so brutal with nerfs and they always OVERNERF, but when it comes to buffs they just decrease the mana of fireball from 40 down to 35 and firebolt dmg by 2%... amazing buffs.

I think they should add more vulnerable sources for fire and lightning builds. Running nightmare dungeons which are 15+ lvls above is time consuming as you have to wait for frost nova to cooldown before engaging another mob.

@doormatt72

Жыл бұрын

yeah, that's one of the biggest problems facing sorc that's trying to play any lightning or fire build. a way to fix it is to use frozen orb enchant with the aspect for 2 additional explosions. that gives pretty decent chill and vulnerable. the only problem is, we don't have that many enchants to work with, especially if we are already forced to take firebolt.

@alaiaylaia3676

Жыл бұрын

@@doormatt72 There's another solution - frost nova enchant and grab a hydra (or two if you want). With some lucky hit chance on gear, the results are pretty damn hilarious

@Tconant1415

Жыл бұрын

​@@alaiaylaia3676I was playing with that for a while. Its pretty fun using with arc lash and the UC cast while not active. Can just swing away while running through the dungeon to get a lightning spear to spawn and freeze/kill stuff off screen

@alaiaylaia3676

Жыл бұрын

@@Tconant1415 Yup, that helps too. Just felt like the lance is not triggering frost nova often enough and my build lacked a consistent source of vulnerability on its own so threw in a hydra as well. Which ended up being very useful later into the game, higher tier nightmares when getting killed started being an actual possibility. Frozen enemies are much less likely to one tap me. The spell I'm not using to make space for the hydra is flame shield. Got an aspect for ice armor to make me unstoppable to compensate. Since you mentioned the free UC cast aspect. There's a thing about it not many people seem to know which makes it absolutely godlike. It doesn't just simply throw out extra spells as the wording makes it sound. It activates a "duplicate" UC, throws a spell off of it and immediately deactivates it. Meaning each trigger of the aspect counts as UC/cooldown activation and will trigger various other effects. Like an arc lash enchantment, making you spam ungodly amount of area stuns. Which all do damage via Shocking Impact. Staggers bosses pretty quickly. I run that for boss fights - frost nova and arc lash enchants (burn is provided by hydra). All of them die in the first stagger. The free UC cast aspect also triggers the Protection perk (barrier when you use a cooldown). If you wanna be fancy, you can take Static Surge paragon to get 10 mana (or Prodigy aspect to get 15-25 instead) each time you stun something via arc lash enchant by way of the free UC casts. Not great in an arc lash build unless you also slap in something to actually use the mana for tho. Works great in other lightning builds tho. Pretty much single-handedly solves mana regen, don't need anything else

@McTonkotsu

Жыл бұрын

To run so high Dungeons is only a option for a Little Part of player, becourse you have to Build a Perfect ice shard Build and Even if you do, you are death of waiting the Most of Time

Regarding your closing question, I genuinely don't think they can possibly make enough changes/fixes to Sorc to bring me back to this class in time for Season 1 after I've gotten a taste of Rogue gameplay. Rogue actually feels like a complete class, and I'm currently facerolling through content that I had to tiptoe through on my Sorc when I was at the same level. It just feels better.

@mitchlacasse361

Жыл бұрын

there's only two changes that are needed to fix Sorc 1) make Exploit glyph apply Vulnerability like it does for Barb/Rogue/Druid 2) fix resistances boom, now we're not forced to include frost skills, and we're not forced to include every defensive skill But, as you said, this won't happen until at least season 2, if they ever do these I think needs to happen

I'm on my fourth build. First, I tried arc lash, but sometimes, when you teleport, you won't hit the enemy, or your basics won't come out.(PS5) I tried lightning ball. And the orbs have collisions, so if they touch a wall, they disappear.😒 Then I tried a meteor build. If the enemy isn't Standing still they move out of the meteor's ring🥲. And now I'm on a chain lightning build. It's my favorite so far. AND NO I'M NOT USING ICE😤

@Supercoolfast

Жыл бұрын

I tried chain lightning but, i thought damage was too low. and Mana problems.

The biggest issue is mana

One major issue I have with Sorcerer is that your aspects and uniques always have a drawback, where other classes don't.

@howdoyouevenknow6526

Жыл бұрын

Seriously stupid asf literally everything has a negative effect

@XboxAffrayer

Жыл бұрын

"Fireball (already useless skill) bounces but does negative damage and heals enemies instead" "Spark (unused basic attack) penetarates 200 enemies but does 99.999% less damage overall" "TP is binded to dash but increases cooldown by 325%" Sorc is super fun. I'm going back to Astroneer

@tris2evil

Жыл бұрын

@@XboxAffrayerLOL

Man u nailed it with sorc man, hope we see some positive impacts on em love the class

The number one problem for sorc in d4 is the paragon boards lack of great glyph slots, along with the some of the rare nodes being good, while they are counter-intuitive to pick. Like the one with attack speed and dmg amp to your summons. There is a frost bolt enchantment that applies chill from direct spells. It has potential imo, ice shards don't chill on their own, but Im not sure if its worth over burning enchant. Feels like there could be a 3rd enchant slot for sorc, maybe at lvl 100? To make the class whole.

i just put frost bolt and fire bolt on the enchantment and added the chill multiplier and been doing fine with the adding chill that way and some enemies freezing from time to time plus icefall with frostbite at my current level adding 40% damage to chilled plus devas on skill tree works great some mobs getting two shot by ice shards and without the enchantment of ice shards the shards just bounce of frozen enemies so just changed from vulnerable to the shard skill that acts as if they were frozen and just rely on exploit for the vulnerability and frost nova when its up

Great vid man

Up to now, I still think all classes should get a dedicated Ultimate button. It would stll requires that choice with points invested but at least nothing has to be sacrificed button wise. This helps Sorcs out as you said because having the defensive utilities are almost mandatory. Barbs would also benefit as most builds will take the 3 shouts. I just feel like these iconic signature moves are being skipped in a lot of builds because of the button space.

@RareFXChrisC

Жыл бұрын

Then D4 becomes a MMO-ARPG-MOBA

@PizzaTime727

Жыл бұрын

@@RareFXChrisC It's even more MOBA when Ult IS one of your regular buttons. While we're at it maybe it's a team arena shooter too. Overwatch has an ult button. Come on now, at least consider it. Let every class and build be able to always have their signature special ability. And btw Wolcen and Lost Ark have Ultimate buttons. If we have a dedicated mount button, there's no reason one can't exist for the Ultimate.

@RareFXChrisC

Жыл бұрын

@@PizzaTime727 Interesting take. The thing with D4 currently is that some creative builds don't even use an Ultimate skill as they are not always superior to non-Ultimate skills.

@PizzaTime727

Жыл бұрын

@@RareFXChrisC That is true as well. I don't dispute it. There are builds with Ultimates that are just better. Like at some point, basic skills are skipped entirely to make way for the Ult. Anyway, it's a suggestion I've seen since the early betas, I hope it's given consideration.

@deathripperx1

Жыл бұрын

Sure, but a dedicated basic skill button would make more sense, seeing how you have to invest at least 2 skill points into 1, no matter what.

Also, most barriers only scale based on your BASE HP. They do not account for things like gems that give Max HP% up.

@HMan2828

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter if you have some barrier generation %... I never put more than one point in ice barrier and it always runs for the full duration, because it's constantly charging...

@celeschan90

Жыл бұрын

@@HMan2828 Well in a video called "Diablo 4 - Sorcerer is Broken - Fix the WEAKEST Class in Season 1..." the player gets 1-shotted with Ice Barrier up at the start of the video.

@HMan2828

Жыл бұрын

@@celeschan90 What level was the player, and what level was the enemy? Never been one-shotted, ever.

@celeschan90

Жыл бұрын

@@HMan2828 Player was lvl 86 on World Tier 4, Nightmare Dungeon Tier 53. It's the higher difficulty content where a lot of things become problematic for sorcerer. Including dealing damage because you cant freeze/chill bosses and almost all their damage depends on it. Resistances dont work as intended, which Sorcerers rely on more than any other class, but they wont fix it until Season 2. =(

@kevinsims5791

Жыл бұрын

Put the gem that gives barrier generation instead of the rubies. That should increase the barrier amount directly.

I'm still having fun with it currently at level I think 87. I plan to get to 100 and then try out a few new builds but I'm definitely trying out druid rogue or necro next season as they seem like a lot of fun and can be insanely powerful without having to use every single skill just to survive a minion attack

Both damage and survivability depend on the same cooldowns reducing clear speed.

Sorc is the only class that I have played through Open Beta, Server Slam and early access release. Unlike most, I do not use any Fire skills. I had a vision for my build and have stuck with it. It is a Cold/Lightning hybrid. It has thus far has carried me to level 70. I am not a speed racer and I do all the story quest and side quest. Now, that is all behind me and all that is left is NM dungeons, Legion events, World bosses and Helltides. I do strongly agree that Sorc should get its 3rd enchantment slot back to increase build diversity and versatility.

they could take the enchantment from fire bolt and put it in the paragon tree on one of the fire board legendary nodes.

Although it’s not a sorc specific change I really wish they would give ultimate skills a separate slot that’s not shared with the other skills as you already are limited to only 1 so it makes no sense that many builds(for all classes) just don’t pick one at all. Probably could do same for basic attacks, although I don’t think it’s as important as ultimate skills.

@pillagius

Жыл бұрын

Ult really should be separate slot... Ultimate abilities being activated by a combination of buttons is nothing new for controllers, in fact it's made that way so you don't accidentally use them.

@TheMasterblah

Жыл бұрын

​@@pillagiusthey could also, I dunno replace the left trigger to do a bar swap instead of an ability. Theres no reason that PC players need to be limited to one small bar because Blizzard thinks console players can only use one bar

@evilsilly6795

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMasterblah bar swap would be great - I hate not using a ultimate and I hate not using a mana generator basic skill with my sorc dont feel like i can have either on my bar

@TheMasterblah

Жыл бұрын

@@evilsilly6795 MAYBE having a bigger ability pool would destroy game balance, but as it is we already have Sorcs slotting like 3 defensive skills, Barbs are almost always slotting all 3 shouts and eventually getting rid of basic attacks, and rogues get two weapon sets but typically outside of their basic they can't fit a hybrid build with ultimate.

@evilsilly6795

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMasterblah not really sure there is game balance right now. Any Sorc pushing NM 60+ is slotting 4 defenses .. that leave 2 spots for "fun". not good. Something needs to be done, especially if other classes are having the same problem. I doubt Blizzard wanted the game played this way.

main issue i have with sorceress build i have right now is this. the loot that drops does not match build i am playing. i keep get loot that drops for different build mover 70% of time. i am lucky to find gear that give more points in one my skill's last night finally got one that gave 2 skill bonus to two different build. this could be i been play mostly tier 2. just got to tier 3 on 4th or day before it.

@TheHollowBlade

Жыл бұрын

Youre not even in wt3 yet. Your stats dont really matter yet. Finding items for your build isnt hard. It will come with time, unless you need a specific unique to enable your build rares and aspects should showup as you go at a decent rate.

I agree most sorc builds are currently forced into building around frost nova and fire bolt however I enjoy how the ice shards build plays. I’m mobile and feel tanky. I was able to get to 100 fairly easy and level the glyphs quickly. I was able to crush it in PVP, legion events, helltides, and world bosses. I never felt I was under powered. My main complaint with ice shards is actually about how the visual animation looks firing the shards. Looks more like a rapid fire DH from D3 than a sorceress in my opinion.

@JoshVin

Жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing! Felt like DH. I didn't love the "single" target feel of ice shards though. Even with all the explosions from frozen enemies dying

@MrAirtaz

Жыл бұрын

You probably need to share your build to claim " tanky". We get 1 hit just out of nowhere. And the mana issues, you could help with that too probably, eh?

I play [frost] sorc as main. I browsed all the comments and what I didn't notice anyone mention: The Butcher eats me. I see others slay him with ease, for me it's an epic boss battle every time. I enjoy the difficulty of it, actually, but it's a benchmark that seems to highlight an imbalance for me, personally. I kill him less than half the time, but never when I am pushing NMDs 3-5 levels above me - in those I am reliably the fresh meat. 😅

@420southcitykid

Жыл бұрын

I have a lvl 87 sorcs and haven't killed the butcher once, on my barb I've killed him everytime I've seen him.

@Tenkiei

Жыл бұрын

I can kill him reliably, but it's definitely not easy. You need to have a good rotation of cooldowns, pacing, and ideally a few extra enemies to drag on top of him for shatter.

Did this vid mention the folio bug not allowing aspect rewrites? Because thats the only actual bug im aware of

I just wondering why the exploit glyph made enemies vulnerable on hit for the other classes but not for the sorcerer, for the sorcerer just increase dmg to vulnerable, but for example for a druid every single hit u do to an enemy make them vulnerable, the same for barbarian, u can used pretty much wherever abilities, but sorcerer is just frost nova, the multiplied don't scale either, meaning no dmg output compared to the other clases,and finally u get 1 shot right and left

In some ARPGs, ie: Phantasy Star Online 2, another button is used to bring up a 2nd skill palette. Maybe something like that can be implemented? It would solve the problem of sacrificing two slots for Basic attack and Ultimate.

In diablo three there is a ring that gives extra damage for an element. Ice, fire, poisen, etc. The damage type cycled to the next type every 4 seconds. So you have to time and line up your skills to fit in that window. This type of thing is typical on sorc builds. It is not exclusive to diablo universe. It is also present in DandD, Forgotten Realms, and even Star wars.

*Teleport is the reason we play as the Sorc.*

I think a third enchantment slot would be great to put someting like flameshield or other defensive enchantments in there.

@brandonharvey3583

Жыл бұрын

lol......

Running an arc lash build and survivability is the big thing. I can do fine mostly up to tier 50 depending on the affixes but still, I can just die instantly if I get a bad hit when a barrier drops.

This may not be responsive to you final question, but there is a D3 QOLthat I would like implemented in D4 = When you compare an available ring with your equipped rings, shot BOTHof the equipped rings, not just the lowest item level one! ... Thank you for letting me rant. ... Love the vid and your advice.

Does anyone have this issue with scorpions to where ice shards aiming issue with them. Shards literally go though them and give no damages. I have to frost wave them most the time otherwise shard casting goes though them or does not lock with them.

im running a mono lightning build on my sorc. it's really fun. hard.. but fun. ill probably be tweaking it to do the firebolt enchantment to have that burning synergy thing.. sigh i hope they buff the barriers at least. kinda sucks when i suddenly die on nightmare dungeons without knowing the cause of death haha

@JoshVin

Жыл бұрын

Yup, I feel the same way. I love the feel of lightning way more than ice but feel forced to do ice because it's easier to survive when everything is frozen

Not having any (other than my playstyle getting in the way and how slowly I level by choice). It's good to hear what's ahead though but farming high tier nightmares is not really something I am excited to do due to my age and slow reactions).

I think Ice and Fire should inflict vulnerability. Maybe have something that increases overpower, since that is a damage multi without much visibility.

@Sir.Catsanova

Жыл бұрын

All 3 elements should have a way to add vulnerable, fire and lightning sorcs shouldn't have to use frost nova. I say this as a frost sorc main.

@seikojin

Жыл бұрын

@@Sir.Catsanova They should make stun lead to something, like chill does to frozen. Like stun stacks to immobilized, burn stacks to vulnerable, and chill stacks to frozen. This way there is reason to spam the lesser status effects.

I like the ice shards/blizzard playstyle. Plan on using it for season 1. I'm at lvl 82 and running NM dungeons 36. I die some, mainly when getting swarmed and can't see what's going on. I would like to do away with fire shield. It would be nice if they would let us use the ult. while crowd controlled. Same with ice shield. It should be part of the 2nd upgrade or added to the legendary that makes you unstoppable.

@quebase1910

Жыл бұрын

i use the same build on lvl 95 and finished a tier 60 nm dungeon. Was not that hard but my damage was a bit to low because my glacial aspect currently is not the best. Think i can go higher when i get the blizzard aspect on a item with higher item power so it does more dmg

if they would just. remove the damage cut from gravitational aspect. why is it there. rogue's encircling blades does a similar thing and comes with a BUFF, so why does ball lightning have to suffer?

How does raiment of the infinite replace inferno when inferno gives free casts. I think fire should get access to guarantee over power since there's focus on being healthy. Or a way to detonate burning.

I've been theory crafting on sorc a lot lately and I finally settled on a build I like. Let me just say conjurations are op and conjuration mastery is giving me a 60%+ multiplier. I suggest people break away from the traditional outlook that you need 4 defensive skills on your bar and give conjurations a try. With frost blades enchant and nova enchant I'm popping off frost novas so fast I have perma vulnerability and don't need nova on my bar. Lightning spear perma stuns everything on screen and hydra provides burning. Cd's coming up so fast I have constant barrier which is stronger then ice armour which only gives barrier off base life. Raiment has horrible stats and glass cannon will get you killed so not needing it for this build feels great.

@Luauiu

Жыл бұрын

Can you share your build and your damage output? :D

@doormatt72

Жыл бұрын

this sounds awesome. i've been brewing around with that idea. the only problem i'm running into is that it seems great for arc lash, but harder to make work with anything else. having hydra cost mana and not be a cooldown makes managing mana harder, even with prodigy. were you using arc lash? or is there a way you've come up with to do a different skill and manage mana?

@dirtygerd9083

Жыл бұрын

@@doormatt72 I've been running chain lightning and never have mana problems with how much crackling energy it creates. Pair this with how fast I'm using cds prodigy is already almost enough. I think my hydra is down to 18 mana cost right now and I mainly use it pre fight to burn for Devouring Blaze. The only problem I'm having right now are suppressor minions because it breaks chains lightning and lightning spear.

@doormatt72

Жыл бұрын

@@dirtygerd9083 yeah, i also have been trying a similar build. it's awesome, but my damage feels a bit low with chain lightning. i'm actually taking a second look and i think this will be doable with ball lightning as well. that would be super exciting as ball lightning is one of my all time favorite skills. the only problem is mana is going to be a nightmare (as it always is with ball lightning, lol)

I found that playing ice skills only, with frozen orb is pretty amazing. Life is definitely an issue, but I feel like the sorc has a ton of potential, if they can give her a bit more life/resistance, so I don't waste it on my aspects.

@angelndevil91

Жыл бұрын

Blizzard Frozen orb is amazing, people keep doing ice shard and complain they have to standstill everytime :)

@jeankirchstein2552

Жыл бұрын

Sorcs resistances are bugged and won't be fixed til season 2

The only thing these problems with the Sorc cause, for me at least, is that it's not a good first character to have, because you do need good aspects on your armor and weapon AND the best gems AND the best glyphs. For example in order for the Ice Shard build to work much better you need the Exploit glyph. Before you have that glyph active, you won't clear areas as fast as you should and will end up burning up your mana (unless you have another way to replenish it faster), like I have ended up with. I don't have the necessary uniques/aspects or glyphs at lvl 56 and I find myself dying way too often because everything's always on cooldown and the Ice Barrier doesn't reset as often as I'd hope. In other words, play another class at least until you have everything you need to make a good Sorc that manages to level up to 50 with as little mana problems as possible while surviving and doing damage. I'm now planning to replace my Ice Shard Sorc to a Lightning build AFTER I've actually gotten all the aspects and glyphs I need for it with another character (Ice Marksman Rogue). Oh don't get me wrong. It's very clear Ice Shard build is strong when done right. I just don't think it's a good first character/build to use.

Very particular video. I agree that the biggest problem of this class is far end game and dealing with high lvl undergrounds. It is easy to buff glifs and rush 100lvl due to best crowd controll effects but at some point that effectiveness stop and it is very hard to go any futher.

Got mine to lvl 100. Not sure if i stay with sorc or switch...

I really like running this class, but I am tried. Of getting one shot out of nowhere

I gave up on my sorc at 77. The two people I regularly play with both play rogue and they were doing more damage than me, we're tankier, had more consistent dps and were also so much faster that I more or less spent my time trying to keep up. Itemization is a pain! The reliance on cdr and mana management feels really clunky and the more stats you need to have on a single item the harder it is to find an upgrade. Maybe I was just unlucky but I just never got the sorc to "work". 😢

@OtakuWrath

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Rogue often builds freeze into their build to add a bit more survivability. This actually severely gimps sorc since most of your damage comes from freezing enemies but the Rogue is faster so they freeze mobs before you get to them and when you arrive most of your damage is reduced by 70% at least because lots of the enemies are now immune to your freeze. If neither of your friends were freezing or applying chill then I dunno but in my experience, most Rogues I've seen use freeze and compared to our freeze which lasts a long time, Rogue freeze is weak and goes away quickly only serving to make enemies immune. When partying up as a sorc, your best friends are Barb and Druid with a fellow Sorcerer being a potential good ally while Rogue and Necromancer is the absolute worst for sorc synergies. Not all Necro use frost but some can and that's enough to wreck your entire DPS. You might start questioning WHY sorc gets decimated by a single ally using freeze and that's a good question to be asking. Barb and Druid players though absolute love sorc as a partner, they rarely hard CC anything so when enemies get rounded up and just freeze in place for a good while also making them vulnerable it just highlights the team up.

I am a casual gamer who mainly plays Sorc. I really enjoy the class but as you stated, the firebolt enchantment finds its way into every build. Another thing I have noticed is that of the core skills Ice Shards and Chain Lightning are good but the others leave something to be desired. Even with a recent update Ice Shards seems better than Incinerate in any situation, particularly once the aspect that allows Ice Shards to pierce has been unlocked. I am looking at ways to make Incinerate work but it is tough... The Key Passive skills have two skills per element... I would like to see some key passives that are not element specific.

@Tconant1415

Жыл бұрын

Even better they better to give better synergy and alternating abilities like druid has with aspects that allow key passives to apply to other skill groups.

Blizzard Sorc: I recently got rid of the Firebolt-enchantment slot.Because i replaced the 4th slot from ultimate with Hydra. I never used this 4th skill slot at all. So i freed it up and hydras make enough enemies burning now. The incredible upside to this is that as enchantment i now can use anything i like. Want Insta-Freeze: Take Frostbolt. Or take Teleport with Raiment and permastun and port nonstop. Works wonders

I dont use flameshield. Dont know with only 2 seconds and never knowing when the oneshot comes, i cant time it like that^^

I've been running meteor + hydra and having fun, currently lvl85. However "comparison is the thief of joy", when I do a legion event and see how fast the other classes are I has regrets.

I was fire sorc from the start of the game. I tried to find a fire sorc that beat uber Lilith, couldn't find it. So I changed to an ice shard build at level 77. The damage is so much higher than firewall / meteor using Ice Shard / blizzard. Wish there was more balance in the builds.

Flame shield no longer removes DoT. Binding embers aspect suddenly has a cooldown before you can move freely thro enemies lol. Dmg is not calculated properly appling diferent status effects in wrong order and some doesnt stack with aspect of control. Lootr table was changed and moved to area based and its very hard to find anything useful. Basicaly if you havnt found bis gear before that - you can forget about it. Chain L. Has huge dmg disperse and bugs when too many enemies are in range you start to do almost no dmg.

i love play my light arc Sorc but shes really bad at high levels.... btw i have like 44% CDR on my gear but it only shows 31%, i have no idea if thats a cap or something. Its sad to see this class with so many fun options falling behind like that

sorc has definitely been the single-most simultaneously rewarding/frustrating character to play. I've been running an arc lash build so I get huge dopamine hit when I tele into a fat crowd of elites and erase them almost instantly, but also if I don't pop my skills in the precise correct order it is I who is erased, then I have to wait 30 seconds for unstable currents to get off cooldown. honestly though it's been a lot of fun to play.

@tmenke88

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This is the reason I switched off arc lash and went back to the ice shard/blizz hybrid. You feel like a god when currents is up, but otherwise you feel like you're swinging around a limp noodle 90% of the time imo. Having to be in melee range also was a bummer. I just beat Lillith after switching to the Ice shards build easily enough. That fight would have been a major pain on arc lash.

I have to mention the issues with stagger on bosses no one is mentioning. If frozen was working correctly ice shards enchantment would begin auto firibg a staggered boss which currently does not. The crit damage is not applying to staggered bosses either check the numbers on elites when you freeze vuln immobilize an elite pack and a boss when staggered and you will see a massive issue.

good stuff. our defensives are one of the main problems we have, as we are getting 1 shot by literally everything even with a barrier up. compared to the other classes that can jus tank through high tier NM dungeons, it just feels so unfair and not fun.

I have a level 87 pure cold sorcerer. No skill or items from any other elements as well as enchantments. 100% pure ice and I can do Tier 41 Nightmare dungeons fine. However, I do die against multiple elites with Frozen affixes. The game is entirely based on defeating players using burst damage over crowd controlling them. No other method works to defeat players but that. And the sorcerer does need more survivability without having to sacrifice so many points and skill slots to it.

@bottledwater4484

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Lvl 41 nightmares at 87 is bad, and thats the point here. You should be pushing 50s by level 87 but its just not possible and highly dependent on which affixes the dungeon / elites have. I can barely run high 60's at lvl 100 because i just get one shot by everything. The bottom line is the class is fundamentally broken and borderline unplayable. Roll a barb or rogue and you'll see exactly what I mean.

@Rombizio

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@@bottledwater4484 I am with a Necro now. Lets see how far it goes. I can do now Tier 45 on level 89. Should be able to do 55 to 60 at 100. But that is it. The class needs more survivability options without depending on barriers.

Sorc feels like a afterthought and a unfinished class. Id love to see some love to the class to make it more like the wizard from d3...i loved the hydra build so it wouls be cool to have that back...mixed with the 2 fireball uniques you could make a Hella fun build if hydras also shot fireballs

I just feel like I run out of mana after 3 spells even if I take all the mana regen skills

, been building a chain lightning sorc, was really terrible early because of mana issues but now i got the necessary imprints and i hit lvl 72, avg item lvl 760 and i can clear nightmare 40 dungeons without dying 1’s. Granted the 40 nightmare dungeon takes a bit cause I barely do any damage to the mobs but thats mostly because I don’t have great main hand and off hand weapon. Separately, the chain lightning needs a buff.. it was a major pain in the ass playing this early as mana was constantly 0 and dmg was non existent. It took me 3 paragon boards and almost a full set to come online.

I think the critique for vulnerable is actually bigger than just the sorc. The thing I noticed after making 3 characters is that inevitably I end up trying to stack crit, vulnerable and overpower on every character because those are the stats that matter more than all others. Thats not good game design. Even watching streamers they all tend to try and get 2 of the 3 if not all three on every single character. Blizzard needs to maybe buff them and try to modify skills to emphasize one particular bucket with maybe some double dipping and let players look for other stats. Otherwise the gear for every single character feels the exact same. As for skills themselves I think this issue isnt just the sorc though. A lot of the classes are forced to take multiple defensive skills over all others. Barb players almost always go 3 shouts, sorcs get both armors and frost nova, druids grab bulwark and howl etc etc. The other issue is that each character (with the exception of the rogue) seems to have some super lackluster skills or class bonuses. The arsenal system doesnt feel as rewarding or fun as any class period. Its just sort of there... like thanks for the buff I guess? The necro is just a worse version of the druid in basically every way unless you go a minion build but then, minions. The sorceress has some super cool options but exactly as you said they get to pick one to try and modify their build since firebolt opens up a ton of the skill tree passives for free damage etc.

@iatwiatw

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Agreed. Just trying out new classes will eventually make you realize that they’re very similar: 1. They all need a way to proc Vulnerable, at least one form of CC, and have decent crit chance. 2. They all need at least two defensive skills. 3. They all need some way to eliminate or at least significantly mitigate the mana cost of their damaging skills by the time you get to Torment. It’s just the same skeleton but with a different skin, and yet Blizzard still couldn’t come up with a good UI for the skills and paragon board. Compare D4 to Grim Dawn, which came out in 2016. Not only do its classes focus on mostly passive defensive skills and buffs (at the expense of having only one or two buttons to click most of the time), your character can actually have two classes at once. While it also has unique or sets that define builds, you can definitely make a good character just through the combination of skills alone. And there are a ton of great builds in Grim Dawn. And Grim Dawn’s version of the paragon board, while still daunting enough that most players will inevitably consult a build guide, is still much more user friendly and pleasing to navigate and understand.

@beware3586

Жыл бұрын

@@iatwiatw Grim Dawn is a great game

I'm using hydra instead of fire bolt enchantment because I still 1 shot most mobs and only need to burn the occasional tanky mob or bosses, would still prefer a 3rd enchantment though

I play sorc, I don't need to see improvements to play it in S1 because I'll probably play it anyway. That said, I still experience mana issues with ice shards sometimes, the build seems to be very reliant on mob density. Makes for some dull times waiting for mana if mobs just appear one by one.

im having problems with single target dps.and survivability vs elites with bubbles and that fire thing and they stun and wack wack .might be able to push a nightmare solo at 50.but id have to work hard and be lucky on elites.not sure why i struggle on elites.the bosses wither away .but sometimes im pounding on an elite 20 minutes.and i have 70% elite dmg.somethings wrong with the class imo.

I found an elite in high NM dungeon with fire enchantment near "healthy survive npc event"(not triggered yet), im a melee sorceror, as soon as i came in contact i died, i decice to leave the elite and take down it after clearing the dungeon, but when i go back the npc already kill the elite 😂

Just seeing the other classes legendary nodes compared to what I have as a sorc is depressing. Every single one is worlds better than all of the sorc ones. 'Do 15% more damage if you are standing on one leg and whistling the national anthem' is getting REAL old.

@Moz29

Жыл бұрын

Lmao awesome comment😂

Of all sorcs i've inapected in game, not one of them was on something other then ice shards :/

Once you hit T30+, Sorc gets a massive nerf where their HP drops to 1.

Some suggestions: 1) Zoom out characters! The sorc is basically a melee class because you're too close. 2) Make increasing mana regeneration a passive every 10 levels, allows more freedom in spamming skills. 3) It's already been said but yes, another enchantment slot. 4) Make a variety of skills useful - Make charged bolts automatically follow creatures, make meteor drop instantly, make firewall cast in an aoe that lines up with creature positions, make the lightning companion skill hang around permanently, make frozen orb grow into a bigger aoe the more creatures it hits. SOOOOOOOOOOO many ways to improve existing skills and who knows maybe create a few new ones! Charm: Target enemies in an area that drains enemies' lives while they fight for you healing you until they die.

@claudijatzandrapova3347

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gawd it would rule if Blizzard did go with this solution you have as the regular easy OOM I get is the most frustrating part that and Chain Lightning dealing almost no damage yet eating my Mana Pool when it's supposed to be better than Spark....

Mana/resource generation. I have farmed for over a week and have not gotten even one sacred focus with resource generation. How rare are these things?

@70chaoswalking07

Жыл бұрын

Resource gen affixes only drop in WT4

There are so many great questions to ask. Are we supposed to use one element or all 3? We have some nodes that give bonuses for using all of them, but it would be cool if there was the opposite. Something like all other element damage bonuses are reduced to 0% but give you like 20-30% of that to your main element. The fact we almost never really use the Mastery, Conjuration, or Ultimate skills is very telling. We have 4 skill slots used up for defensives, 1 for a core skill, gotta use half our enchantment slots for fire. So really we are all playing different variations of the same build. I'm level 75 trying to play an Ice Spike/Shard hybrid build, but my blizzard aspects are all low rolls and from level 40-50, the highest one is a pathetic 350 damage, so I'm running mostly Ice Shards on bosses and using blizzard mostly for helping freeze things. I think they need a way to level up aspects by maybe sacrificing gear. I don't care how much, make it jump half way between the aspects current level and the legendary being destroyed to do it, id pay it in a heartbeat. Trying to farm a high level high roll blizzard ice spike is just impossible, its all luck.

Btw Ice Shards has aa bug that prevents it from hitting many targets including scorpions, blood bubbles and some small enemies. Needs fixing too.

One thing I find annoying is that most good glyphs scale with dexterity and I don't understand why? Sorc's main stat is Intelligence so why are there no good int glyphs? The rare paragon nodes give 10 int so I can't use those and there are many glyph sockets that require level 15 to get the bonus effect since I'm missing those +10-20 from the rare nodes. Grabbing dex for glyphs is also a bad synergy with the rare paragon nodes as most of them have either Int or will requirements. My first build was a Barb and they have several good Str glyphs so not only am I able to use the +10 from rare nodes, the str nodes I grab around the glyph also increase my base attack.

They should change all conjurations and luck hit procs, including the one from incinerate, to make them all prioritize elite mobs instead of boxes or other objects.

I love mixing and matching elements but then it just doesn’t work well and I get my butt kicked

my main issue is how I spend 90% of my time using Spark or Arc Lash as it's far too easy to OOM as just three casts max of Chain Lightning sees my Mana practically empty and that needs rebalancing hard as you need a degree to understand the Paragon Boards to get something from that making Maxtoll essential and experimenting ourselves pointless

A start would be more barrier generation with longer duration. Ice barrier is great with the bonus barrier when dealing damage to vulnerable, but it only lasts 6 seconds. I just got to nm 47 and enemies are lvl 100+. They melt, but the one shots are very frustrating. I can face tank any nm boss and it dies under 10 seconds, but I can't stand a lot of one shots by ranged mobs. I don't mind the lower damage we do because we can cc and hit many enemies at once. Also there isn't a reason to clear nm 50+ besides glyph leveling, but all of mine are already lvl 15+ with 2 at 21 and I'm lvl 97.

@Tconant1415

Жыл бұрын

The biggest issue with the barriers is aside from the protection passive and icefall legendary node all other sources for barrier generation is determined by BASE life that v cannot be changed no matter what we do aside from increasing our level

sorc used to have 3 enchantments slots, and most skills and their synergy were supposedly designed with 3 enchantments. Now with only 2 enchantments slots render most of the builds feel incomplete or simply just doesn't work anymore.

The Sorc should have never got nerfs in the beta based on a level 25 power level. Chain lightning was dumpstered not just the damage but the way it damages bosses as well That's why sorcerers cannot kill those pillars in the events. Hydro was dumpstered, arc lash was nerfed as well and other skills and nodes were nerfed as well. Sorc also was designed to work with three enchantment slots. And one was taken away during the beta. Without reworking the whole class to work with only two. And now the limitations of having only two are becoming more apparent everyday. Also lastly a lot of the sorcs uniques have nerfs on them when other classes don't have this. You get some type of effect but with a downside which in a lot of cases it's better not to even use the unique because of the downsides.