Stan....you are a great teacher....super discussion/instruction/build/repair......Turkey Day breakfast with you!!!

@ShadonHKW

4 жыл бұрын

Happy Thanksgiving Chuck!

It's always a good day when I learn something and I learned a few things watching this video. Thanks for posting this.

Hey Great video, and nice work. Gotta love the old school way of doing things when it comes to looking out for the guy down the road. Meaning the bushing repair, and reassembly. Thanks really enjoyed this.

@TinkerKing209

Ай бұрын

I noticed that too. I do my best to look out for the next. Can’t say I’m perfect about it but I try 9/10. An easy thing for us now is hopefully to save the next guy hours if not days. Just takes a second of consideration. Passing the love on down for fixing, repairing and getting dirty.❤

Good video Stan. I liked the bag trick, and also the tip on reinforcing against side loads on the axles and rails.

Good one, Stan enjoyed watching this one all come together. Thanks for taking the time to upload this one for us. Play Safe From Elliot Lake Ontario Canada.

I worked at dexter for 30 years , looks like you did a great job.

Interesting project and well narrated. I felt as if I could attempt a project like this after watching this video. Really well done. I need to build a set of those Keith Fenner shaft alignment tools.

Thanks Stan, that was an enjoyable Saturday project cheers!

Great video, Stan, thanks a lot. Learned a few things.

Thanks Stan, lots of interesting info there. A good way to check if the ends are straight is to fit the hubs and wheels and with it standing on the wheels, spin the axle tube and see if the wheels are swashing in and out. Adjust your tacks and weld em up. If the wheels wobble the tubes can be pulled by some extra welds on one side. Thanks for documenting the refurb.

Good repair Stan👍👊

Great video Stan!

Thanks for sharing! Happy Thanksgiving

Thanks Stan, never did this and this was a great how to.

Nice job Stan! This baby is "Razor Approved"👍👍👍

great project, thanks for sharing !!

Good job.thanks for the grease tip.

Great repair and good advice. Thx. Lisle makes a 'bearing packer' tool (34550) that works pretty slick if you get into the habit of doing axles and bearings all the time 👍🙃

enjoyed it very informative and worthwhile

Instructive Stan... Thank you... btw, your welding... I salute :)

Well done Stan. Happy Thanksgiving.

Great video Stan. Good job and good pointers. I need to recheck mine...🙄.

Great video Stan. I am currently redoing suspension bushings on my travel trailer so it was also timely. One possible explanation for the uneven bushing wear on your equalizer is that the center line of the spring bushing is not aligned with the center line of equalizer bushing so there is a slight twisting force on it making it wear unevenly.

Good video, We all have trailers of some sort. I have Dexter’s best. The only way to go down the road. Thanks Stan

Nice repair!

You do things like I do and everybody else should do. But sadly, so many patch things up and drive on or sell it off. And the new owner beware. When you do things the right way, you basically can enjoy using it without worrying about it failing. Thumbs Up!

Great video!

great camera shot 21:50. awesome.

Great tutorial...Thank you

36:00 nice to see I'm not the only one that has done it that way. I used the plastic bags that covered the new rotors. Not totally clean, but still not head to toe grease when you are done. Besides, big bearings waste too much grease with a pressure packer.

hey, great video. I love all the details you included in the video. If someone needed help doing something like this, they could follow step through step.

Great Video. Thanks!

Wish I had known the grease packing tip years ago. Thanks

fantastic enlightenment

Nice work Stan! The wire nuts and electrical tape would not last 1 winter here in MN, but are probably good for a decade in CA, LOL.

The Wright Rollers work great for that.

nice repair..

A well used but definitely better than new trailer!

Yo thanks for sharing this ppreciatecha.

The whole weight of the trailer is taken on the axle tube and not the solid stub thickness. The stub axle needs to extend inside the tube past where it mounts to the spring so the load is taken by the combined profile of the stub and tube. This will just fail again. It’s basic engineering. The tube of the axle is ok in the centre to just locate the ends, but it shouldn’t be taking the whole mass.

I think I would have gone thicker wall tube while at it since you have been there before. I have had dexters on all my goosenecks and so far yet to break a tube but mine are either 10HD or 12k dual tandems.

I like the plastic bag...add some latex gloves and it's really mess-free. Nice work.

I tell you what you made your own channel at this cuz you damn good at explaining and breaking stuff down so I can tell you got your own business and you have to deal with people on the outside basis I wish I didn't live in Florida and close to 2 close to you cuz I know I can damn sure learn off of you

Good build, but is there some reason you didn't crown the center of the new axle tubes?

@tiredoldmechanic1791

4 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing, no camber and the inside of the tires will wear out if the trailer is loaded.

As a truck mechanic, those wire chase tubes actually have a higher chance of rubbing wires than just tying the wires to the axles. Could have taken little tabs or pieces of tubes that you could have tied loom covered wires to. See rubbed wires a lot on car haulers that have the wire harness ran through closed tubes without any securement.

@tiredoldmechanic1791

4 жыл бұрын

There are many ways to do it.You can also drill holes in the axle tube and use nylon air brake tubing to run wires through or even run the Grote 85-5502 inside the tube and seal the holes with silicone.

I have the same axle, Dexter D35 failed the same way on the U bolt. What you think about sleeving the break? Was going to sleeve with a 2" pipe on inside, and a 2 1/2" pipe on outside with rosette welds, at least that is my plan at the moment. I think 2 1/2" 40s pipe will fit on the outside. Does that sound like a viable option to you?

Great video! Question, is there a part number to the spindles? And that’s a 2” tube? Looked almost like 2 7/8 tube

the .005 run out is impressive. however that only equates to degrees of caster/camber when in all actuality the bearings are running true to the spindle when set properly. dexter now has preloaded camber axles. have you ever attempted to duplicate a positive camber axle? is it worth the trouble? i am tired of spending $350 per axle when i could build one for about 100. just never done it before.

@ShadonHKW

2 жыл бұрын

I think they only do that on the larger capacity axles.

@DustinApple

2 жыл бұрын

@@ShadonHKW I only buy 3500# all have positive camber preloaded bends.

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have you done a dexter axle with a 4 inch drop with electric brakes? My wires go threw the tube my axle is a 3500 pound hf 95.00 sc 81.00 inch the front driver side top of tire is leaning in I have seen people use jacks and wrap chains around the bottom and the chains bend the axles straight.

Is the trailer axle the same for 5-lug and 4-lug hubs?

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Hey Stan great video, very informative. What size pipe and thickness do you recommend for a 7k axle? I’m very tempted on building my own, any help will sure help. Thanks!

@ShadonHKW

11 ай бұрын

I would just be guessing. I would turn to the documentation that comes with your spindles.

how can I do one end without the gauge calibration?

Meaning no disrespect to Anyone but I think hand packing a bearing is still the best way for the average guy. You don't have to Fill you had with grease but just use a couple of Tbl spoons at a time and work the grease in. Far less waste and the only expense is the grease itself.

seems I have noticed that many of my trailer axles the axles bow up in the center. Seems like it was to compensate for when loaded. Not sure though. A lot of good information, I have a utility trailer that needs some work soon.

@ShadonHKW

4 жыл бұрын

Those are the spring axles, different material and have a definite kink in the center.

I’ve always liked the dexter stuff also! What is the weight rating on the axles before you retuned them? If you saw the underside of my trailer, you’d be amazed at how much rectangular tube was used to build it. It is really heavy even when empty.

@ShadonHKW

4 жыл бұрын

The Dexters are rated for 5K per axle.

Thanks for the video Stan, do you think that the the rockers would chuck up in a four jaw on the lathe?

@ShadonHKW

4 жыл бұрын

I monkeyed with it for about 10 minutes, then moved on to the mill.

Q: At around 35m you mention welding cracks in the frame caused by fatigue from side loading. Do you drill out the end of the crack before welding or just weld over it? I know with light aircraft they'll drill out the ends of cracks to stop crack propagation and I was wondering if that was a common repair technique or just specific to aircraft.

@danpoole9327

4 жыл бұрын

Drilling the end of the crack stops it from creeping. Also digging out the crack to burn it in well is a good practice

I like the wire tubes. I think California should make them mandatory on all trailers. : ) Cheers, Gary

@marshallmoneymaker8322

4 жыл бұрын

and then uses wire nuts to make the wire connections.

@madmodifier

4 жыл бұрын

@@marshallmoneymaker8322 looked like speaker wire too, lol

i hope you see this and respond but in using this type of tubing, where does the bow come in to play? most all trailer axles are bowed upwards to acount for proper camber when loaded,can straight tubing be used?

@ShadonHKW

2 жыл бұрын

the smaller axles 5K and below use straight tube

I noticed your Logan has a break function. Is that utilizing the break function of your vfd? I have a 6561 and I want to put a break on it. Thanks Mark.

@ShadonHKW

4 жыл бұрын

I'm just using the onboard DC brake, you could do so much more with a braking resistor.

Nice work! So did you use a non cambered axle tube? Thx a bunch

@ShadonHKW

2 ай бұрын

Yes. Just a straight piece of sch 80 heavy.

How much where the schedule 80 pipes to build those

Where did you get those table low profile pipe rollers ?

@ShadonHKW

5 ай бұрын

That's a kit from Keith Fenner. Lookup Turnwright machine works.

Thanks Stan I learn a lot from this video. A couple of questions please; How did you clock the spring perches? Also, you mentioned you were going to compare the wall thickness of the Dexter axle to the Sch 80 grade A wall thickness. I didn't catch it, did you check it? I am just curious if there was a difference. Thanks again.

@ShadonHKW

4 жыл бұрын

I didnt make it clear in the vid, but the tubing I used was .040 thicker wall, and it didnt have an internal seam (weak point) Spring perches were done with a level, same as the brake back plates.

@jcs6347

4 жыл бұрын

@@ShadonHKW Thanks for the note back!

And this is one of the guys that hangs out with God on rest day after building a GREAT AMERICA.

@markpasieka

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.. thinking thank god we have Americans like this .. was deeply bothered when I CHINA on the late bit holder... we have hard times ahead of us...

Great video. Wonder about UV exposure welding bare handed as a skin cancer risk decades later. Probably a moot point. I would have searched out some thick wall tubing to slip in the axle tubes from just inside the spring perch to close to the back of the spindle just tacked east and west inside the end of the tube as a never going to shear one off leaving the trailer stranded again.. Automatic transmission parts suppliers might have had some thrust washers to fit between the rockers. How about putting a 1/8 npt in the axle tube and threading in an air tank fill fitting. Pumping it up and using those clear valve stem caps that change from green to red if pressure is lost. Just to check before cross country trailer trips.

@ShadonHKW

4 жыл бұрын

All good ideas! Why just build it when you can overbuild it! :)

@waynep343

4 жыл бұрын

@@ShadonHKW repeated failures require forethought to fixes. i worry about using water pipe .. even schedule 80 in that kind of application . i guess that increases profits with lower cost materials and repeat axle sales. i should get a hat that says Over Engineering. heck i even used 2 shackles to slip an engine in.. i did not trust just one.. i.imgur.com/Vv09FT1.jpg but it did fit in.. i.imgur.com/6fXMTzF.jpg

Two different numbers on the rocker arms: 61207 and 61008. Why? See vid at 22:00, several other shots show this too.

@ShadonHKW

4 жыл бұрын

No idea, different batches possibly, parts measure the same in all respects.

@larryblount3358

4 жыл бұрын

@@ShadonHKW thanks for the quick response. We always enjoy your varied vids. My son enjoys your squares (Christmas gift). Maybe one day I will have a set, too.

Nice repair- Kinda disappointed you didn't work the surface grinder in there somewhere.....🤣 That expanding mandrel would be handy; did you make or purchase it? Thanks again!

@ShadonHKW

4 жыл бұрын

I bought a set of them years ago, .500 to 2.00, never regretted it.

@ls2005019227

4 жыл бұрын

@@ShadonHKW - Thanks & Happy Thanksgiving

Straighter than factory axles

Stan, I use a different way to "pack" the races. I put some grease in a clean tin and warm it till the grease just melts. Be careful not to over heat it. Drop the races in and let the grease cool then fish the packed races out and fit them. If someone had say a temperature controlled oven it would make it easy to do the heating. Cheers Eric

@warrenmichael918

2 жыл бұрын

Im not sure but doesnt getting the grease hot enough to melt compromise its integrity? Not to mention several extra steps for a fairly easy, but messy, job...

Welded the spring perched on wrong. 2-1” welds belong on a 10k axle. U need to do a 60-40 pass on them perches

@markpasieka

Жыл бұрын

please elaborate, your statement is to succinct for those of us that did not have your experiences....

In this video, Stan kneads his greasy sack.

@markpasieka

Жыл бұрын

lol... you know he is good if he has haters

How about 09/21/07 for a date on that?

@ShadonHKW

4 жыл бұрын

12 years ago? sounds about right.

At 3:58 the tongue and hitch appear "Tilted Up" is that camera deception? Now to watch the rest of your video.. For the record I have seen this crack/broken axle tubes on Semi trailers ..

@ShadonHKW

28 күн бұрын

That is a problem area that I always check, but no, it's not bent. Checking regularly for signs of fatigue is recommended.

its best to build a new axle.

just curious..... are those 5200 lb axles?

@ShadonHKW

3 жыл бұрын

Dexter rates them as 5K

@danachristie110

3 жыл бұрын

That's weird my 5200 lb axle tubes are 3" outside diameter

What is the tool called

@markpasieka

Жыл бұрын

I know right... which one, personally i am scanning the comments for specs and info on that slick pipe roller ...

Hello Stan, I am wondering why after the previous failures (I am not too impressed with only six years use out of a trailer axle) you didn't opt for an upgrade to the next larger axle, wall thickness, and diameter? I would think you could bush the larger tube down to your axle stub size and still used them? It would seem the design should take into account road stresses including potholes. When you have traffic either side of you or a narrow road there are just times that a hard whack can't be avoided. I have done a few boat trailers and truck axles and springs in my day making it a video down memory lane. Take care. Doug

@ShadonHKW

4 жыл бұрын

The whole trailer is rated 10K GVW, putting larger units under it would tempt me to overload it and possibly bend a frame rail.

@ 7:50 ,ZIP YOUR FLY, had to tell you. lol

@markpasieka

Жыл бұрын

so many tools and neat stuff to look at in this video? why are you looking at his crotch?

I thought I seen 46:31.... "Large+Large && Small+Small=Curveball" goes in.-?, or was it just explanation.

To bad these trailers couldn’t be electrified. In stead of some one breaking in you would just have a little ashes to clean up in the morning. Great content 👍

@markpasieka

Жыл бұрын

what do you mean they cant? they can, its just the liability that troubles me.... Criminals have more rights then middle class property owners in the new woke America... property of the Banks or corporations is being protected as are the criminals... all at the expense of the middle class.....

@jamesgibson5876

Жыл бұрын

@@markpasieka no .. every one has the same rigbts.. criminals or not.. funny how people like to claim people in jail have it so good.... its like heaven ... but people aren't lining up to die or go to jail

Stan, why not just put on some rubber gloves and pack your bearings the normal way. When finished just take them off and pitch them in the trash. Hands stay nice and clean instead of smelling like axle grease.

@markpasieka

Жыл бұрын

now you tell me!?... lol..... for some reason the gloves always burst or tear n me, plus they impede the touch and feel feedback of working with components...

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What a lame way to pack bearings.

Dexter axles is junk lippert axles is the best