I am so glad that you decided to make classical music videos. It is so hard to find people interested in classical.

Great video! I am new to classical music this is great for me. Thank you so much Look forward to more videos. Have a wonderful one

Thanks for your insights. I got The Rite and the Beethoven 7 DG OG Source. I… love them. For someone who nodded respectfully but didn’t really have a serious interest in Classical, these two really got me excited to collect more. I like the hot sound of The Rite. Scared the crap out of me-in a good way. Anyhow, in the sense that these DG re-issues get folks like me excited about Classical-I say bravo! Thanks for turning us all onto some other, and even better recordings, though. What did you think of the Klieber Beethoven seven? Also, I love your listening room. It looks exactly what I would want. I have a Vintage system that is a far cry from advanced, but still allows me to hear enough of the differences and various pressings that it’s enjoyable. Been mostly collecting jazz since the pandemic. Lots of tone poets, and blue note classics and acoustic sounds series stuff.

Sounds pretty great to my ears, one of my favourites of the series. Standouts so far are this, Debussy and Stravinsky

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10 ай бұрын

@notspeakanychinese The Stravinsky does sound rather huge and bombastic!

this was super fascinating!!

It's funny you mention Micheal from Poetry on Plastic. Right after watching this video, youtube gave me a suggestion from the tracking angle where Micheal is basically doing an infomercial for Deutsche Grammophon. Looking forward to more of your videos and thanks for showing your sound system and your room, I too always wonder how the music that is recommended to me in the VC community is listened to.

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10 ай бұрын

@R.Charbonneau Thank you. I really appreciate Michaels videos, I am also of the mindset that I do not have to agree 100% with everything someone says to still have respect for consideration for their opinions (getting pretty rare these days) I am certain Fremer is on the payroll for this DG marketing campaign, along with a few others, but again, I'm not here to judge anyone's decisions or money making. I did find it refreshing though that on the tracking angle website Michael Poetry really ripped into these recordings and also agreed with me on a lot of the sonics. AS for the system I believe in being transparent, I have nothing to gain or hide.

Love Gilels so much in the Trout. Eagerly awaiting his upcoming 2 Brahms concertos with Jochum.

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11 ай бұрын

@davidchan8108 Yes, his performance is fantastic, just a shame that it sounds so bad.

I have just purchased the DG OS Viynl of Beethoven's 7th by Kleiber. Record is fairly warped but, mercifully, quiet & had I bought it at a local store I'd have certainly returned it for a flatter copy. Sound, to me, is hyper dynamic with reasonable tone. However, I would not say it sounds especially analogue or warm in the way that a well recorded Tone Poet, for instance, can be. Jacket is of average quality vs a Tone Poet, also. Were I listening blind Id swear it was high resolution digital but without some of the glare. Just my 2 cents, thiugh others will disagree...Great music and performance, so im happy to have it but I overpaid due to difficulty in sourcing it.

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9 ай бұрын

@philiprichardson5645 They do all sound old school digital a bit. I have the Beethoven as well, didn't sound bad to me but didn't really sound good either, if you know what I mean. I also for the life of me don't know why they didn't come out of the gate w/ Klieber's 5th...

Thanks for this refreshing take on the Original Source DG series. As you say, there is a bit of an echo chamber with positive reviews. Other than Poetry on Plastic, most of the youtube reviewers really aren't classical listeners so I don't believe them to be very discerning. However, I was excited to hear the series because everyone agreed they are a marked improvement on the originals. I grew up listening to my parents' vinyl collection, primarily DG, London, Angel, Columbia, etc. DG had some great performances like you say, and while the sonics weren't on par with a good Wilkinson Decca, for instance, I grew up listening to that house DG sound, so perhaps there is a comfort factor for me. The fact that a classical label should take on a reissue/remix campaign is a bit surprising, and DG is the only one to do so in-house, right? I'm a bit mixed because it's easy to get DG's for not much money (there still are $1 bins...) However, I appreciate the effort and hope, as you mention, that they refine their process. Your comments on the sound- EQ/tonaliity, compression and overall rock dynamics are spot on. I'm a musician, working bassist of 30 years, and played cello and piano growing up. I know what an orchestra sounds like in person. I've been in enough recording studios and attended mix sessions, etc. to know that your critical listening comments are correct, as they mirror my initial reactions upon listening to the Trout and Rite of Spring. Honestly, I wanted to plop down and listen after cleaning the first series titles but moved on after a few minutes. I truly hoped it was just me- if I listened the next day, all would be good. Thanks for the great channel and your suggestions for alternative recordings that best the DGs. I think this is the crux: for many, myself included, the ease of buying new vinyl reissues means no searching through discogs, no seeking out the best version, hopefully getting a quiet record out of the gates, etc. It's lazy, perhaps. Some of it is naivete. So, you are doing a great service to those making their first foray into the classical universe as well as those who are a bit more aware of the repertoire but haven't done comparisons in performances/pressings. You stated your collection is by and large classical, but I saw some Impulse! recordings and you mentioned the Grateful Dead (huge fan). When I re-started vinyl collecting in 2020, I bought up many 'audiophile' reissues, believing the care/attention they could give smaller batches with newer/';improved' technology would easiily best the OGs. I was quickly disillusioned by, say, the MOFI issues of Allman Brothers and The Pretenders. Everything was rounded off spectrally and the compression gave a tameness to rock recordings that really need that edge. What a let down! Sorry for the longwinded post. All this to say your channel started on the right foot out of the gates. Cheers!

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10 ай бұрын

@tsmberk whew, ok, here we go...when i was in HS i would go to borders books and they had DG end caps of cassettes and I used to grab a few of them and put em in my pockets and walk out so other than listening to Jim Svejda late night on KUSC my classical recordings were all the DG tapes. I must have listened to some of them hundreds of times. I have never played any orchestral instruments but I did go to fine arts high school (for painting) and had many friends who played in the orchestra and would just sit in the hall and watch them practice a lot. I've also dated a cellist and 2 violinists in my lifetime so I've seen and heard a lot! I do remember a lot of the same people gushing all over the tone poets and the DG's do remind me in a way of those RVG recordings with no bass, no symbols, no brushwork, muddy piano, and the horns going through that fake sounding EMT plate in a box reverb. Taking mediocre recordings and making them sound decent is a far cry from taking stellar recordings and making them sound otherworldly. Many of the BN and DG performances are beautiful, inspired, revolutionary, and unmatched but they do still sound lousy, that's just how it went down. imagine if Roy Dunann had recorded all those blue notes. I toured and recorded playing bass also for many years( jazz bass, SVT, ampeg 8x10) I'm kind of a purist. The lower octaves mean the world to me and I just need them in a recording. While on the topic, Lesh is like a God to me and when they give him the keys and let him drive the whole thing the most open and mind blowing performances occur.THE PHIL ZONE.

I actually saw Gilels and Amadeus Qt live in 1974. But why vinyl? It cannot even begin to replicate the sound of the master. This is why the classical music recording industry adopted digital very quickly more than 40 years ago.

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10 ай бұрын

Just my preference, I will have a video coming soon about my views on digital/analogue...I've made many records in both formats.

Great video, you talk about a elephant in the room. A remastering can not really change the recording. If it didn’t sound great in the first place it will not start to sound great just because of some super duper remastering. I think it’s interesting that some people even thing DG sounds “bad” and at the best ok. DG was never trying to achieve this fake live sound that manny others do. They are trying to highlight certain things of the music, maybe not always realistic but a artistic choice. I am sure that everybody that hers the one you mentioned as alternative sounds better agrees.

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10 ай бұрын

@dieselbrodeur I agree fully about the mastering. A great sounding tracking and mixing really needs almost no mastering except to balance the levels so track to track it's consistent. A bad mastering job on the other hand...haha

PLEASE review any other of the DG series you might buy. PLEASE!

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10 ай бұрын

@pk-kh3cm i'm pretty on the fence about whether I need anymore of these but if I get em I'll give my honest opinion.

I bought the Debussy Original Source and it sounds like quiet mud. The mic placement was terrible

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10 ай бұрын

@AndrewBell I'm gonna make a video in a couple days about why I think they sound bad from a technical standpoint.