Who’s the GOAT? Ma Long or Waldner? 🐐

@derlacker9000

5 ай бұрын

Ma Long

@AndersLindFan

5 ай бұрын

Waldner, obviously, he is the goat of table tennis and playing down the middle.

@lupo3694

5 ай бұрын

Waldner will always be the Mozart of table tennis. His creativity and control are unmatched to this day, imho.

@BalrogIsCool

5 ай бұрын

Waldner

@JayJay-vi5gb

5 ай бұрын

Ma long for sure.

Waldner style is very smart. Nowadays, you can win a lot by playing smart

@WorthlessGeek

5 ай бұрын

More of a challenge to win through technical plays and "smarts" in the 40+ era though, the cell ball and especially 38mm ball required a more deft touch and rewarded you more as a result

@shemanyk

5 ай бұрын

Reallly????? How can you tell????? Wow!!!!!!!

@skakollaettklipp

4 ай бұрын

EmRat, you often compare Chinese vs European playing styles. I think Waldner and a few others (Xu Xin, Tomokazu Harimoto and maybe if he continue to develope also Truls Möregårdh) really stands out on their own. Waldner for example always seem to add some extra in each ball, that little change of direction, spin or speed creating tons of uncertainity for the opponent and constantly bringing him out of the comfort zone. Waldner was never the player with the most intense playing style in his generation, compare with J-M Saive or most of the Chinese players. There where those who hit harder and moved faster but when playing against Waldner they struggled since the ball never came back exactly as they where used to. Others hit much harder and direct but Waldner often managed to counter it with a block and thus spending much less effort but still win the point. Gatien and Schwartzkopf had both hammers not to mention the forhand from Waldners training partner and World Champions Jörgen Persson and the backhand from Mikael Appelgren. Honestly I find it difficult to learn much from Waldner. He was simply on another level and the things he makes look easy are super difficult to do. And even more difficult to master.

This is amazing guys. Waldner himself teaching what is probably the most iconic serve of all time. Thanks for this.

J-O W is old school player. he adopts to everrything. that is smart playing tt. respect to his majesty sir J-O Waldner

Real glad Waldner is joining TTD. Can’t wait for more videos!

@TableTennisDaily

5 ай бұрын

Plenty more Waldner videos over at tabletennisdailyacademy.com 💪🏓

@AndersLindFan

5 ай бұрын

​@TableTennisDaily may I purchase this masterclass if I live in usa?

The nice thing about Table Tennis is how much you can use tactics and misdirection. Waldner is THE master at those. Many times when you see his matches, he is basically standing there and the opponent is running all over like crazy.

I love so much this guy ! Thank you Sir for all ! so much time in front of youtube to watch his matches!

Waldner is legend all times💐

So good. Actually doable and I can learn. Thank you.

Thanks! Training services is usually skipped in our club, I hardly ever take the time to practice those for myself. Time to change that!

3:25 😅 Goat.

Thats amazing !

I will practise that. Thx 🙂👍

I wish these videos were available when I was a teenager; could've grown even stronger! Jan-Ove Waldner by far influenced my playing style. Used to win a ton of points using my serves, imitating Waldner; the third ball attacks I'd get are just so easy to play! Thanks @TableTennisDaily and Jan-Ove Waldner!

@TableTennisDaily

5 ай бұрын

Love this 🙏🏓 Totally agree the amount that one can learn online now is incredible! I wish I also had this when I was younger. Have a great weekend 👊

@geitekop507

5 ай бұрын

@@TableTennisDaily Likewise!

@geitekop507

5 ай бұрын

@@TableTennisDaily Man, I was that big a fan, I even had a national Swedish shirt! A deep blue with yellow stripes making the cross of Sweden! Team Waldner, Appelgren, and Persson were unbeatable!

Great serve and top man

Wow!!! You guys got the GOAT on your side❤❤❤

What an amazing guys, such a legend! Thank you for that tutorial guys!

What a legend

Despite the quality, I'm also fascinated by how clean Waldner's serve is rn, considering he had the best hidden serve 2 decades ago.

another key here is to have all your other serves start very similar if you can. Hide the racket behind your body as long as you can before contacting the ball, on both regular serves and the long fast serve. That way you dont give away that you will be performing that serve.

jan u r legend ...=)

legend！

Amazing

@TableTennisDaily

5 ай бұрын

Bit like your 🚕 in the latest TTD Team ep 😍🚀

I love Waldner.

Can you tell me which equipment use JO Waldner this video?

I'm not the best a serves, but this one I can actually do quite well.

Hi. I would like to buy this course, please help me. I would choise the first option ( one month). What does it mean exactly please? I wont have the videos.for ever ? Can i download them to my computer ?

Been practising this for weeks but not confident yet to use it in matches :-)

@TableTennisDaily

5 ай бұрын

Hope this video gives you some more confidence in your serves 🔥

@andreaseriksson8803

4 ай бұрын

Been practicing it since the early -90's and I only get 7-8 real good ones out of ten. 😅

Waldner has a very quick hand

Când bați un suedez,te bucuri de toată satisfacția.Succes!

Best ace serve in history

Never thought Waldner has a fluent Englsih. 👍

Some may see it as a picture of an old chap who once was a table tennis player showing a trick he was using back in the day when he knew how to play but I bet he would still win with 99% of the people watching this video.

🥇

@TableTennisDaily "Ok, let me try!" Waldner: 1:37😂

Yasssssssssss

Waldner is giving it a very quick right leaning side top spin. That spin curves the ball downwards to the table instead of going out of bounds like whats happening to dans first few tries.

J-O!!!

Where are the links to learn more from Waldner?

@TableTennisDaily

5 ай бұрын

Hi Pete the other videos are here from Waldner tabletennisdailyacademy.com/packages/jan-ove-waldner-masterclass/

i love this video. but when you are realy strict, he hides the ball a second when it goes down behind his head. anyways much love for this 🙂

Quite nice but nothing compared to the handleshot 🥳

I often catch the edge too 😂 you don't need to look anyway..the table is not moving anywhere no need to ace either. if the player is late you'll get a nice easy ball to finish the point

The Taxi Grandmaster 🚕

That no-look serve😅

This is Wladmir's nightmare

Is this how Lebrun hit the table with his racket? :D

What's amazing is I bet he could play at a 2500 level (USATT) without even trying.

Well whats the point if he is clearly hiding the serve? We are not in the old era anymore....

@BeHAPPYM

5 ай бұрын

Well ... I am also kinda disappointed, but this is basically normal nowadays. And since this almost never is forced during the match, it is best to learn this serve. Also, at least on the first serve, the ball was hidden only a bit by the head - which can be corrected. It seems way more hidden since you cannot see the racket, which is totally legal. You only have to see the balls, so it is best to hide the racket as long as possible.

Dan: 2021: Okay guys so im just gonna say it- Ma Long is the GOAT of table tennis. 2023: Waldner is GOAT

@JayJay-vi5gb

5 ай бұрын

Doesn't make much sense does it?

何言ってるかは全くわからなかったけど、ワルドナーのサーブ技術がもの凄いのは良くわかった。

He was just hustling before 3:26.

L E G E N D

TAXİ

@TableTennisDaily

5 ай бұрын

🚕🚖🚕

"Destroy Your Opponents With This Serve" No need, just tell them you're Jan Ove Waldner

the ball is behind his face, so its illegal

Players were much more skilled and creative back in the day.

@Hesselaer

5 ай бұрын

Creative, yes, but not more skilled. All players nowadays have amazing touch, but that isn't the focus anymore. You see it come out in some rallies though. Then you really see the genius these players have

@TableTennisMedia

5 ай бұрын

@@Hesselaer Don't really agree with this one. Rules & equipment changes made the game easier. When players could do the serves with hiding the ball and serve it straight from hand, as well as with all the speed glue thing, you had to be really good at receives and controlling that crazy spin. Nowadays, the equipment simply limits it and it's more about pure & automated power.

@fcsprinter6210

5 ай бұрын

@@TableTennisMediaso players that didn’t have a backhand loop or flick were more skilled?

@dickn.ormous1064

5 ай бұрын

​​@@fcsprinter6210Playing a bh flick doesn't take much skill with the plastic ball.A 13 yo Harimoto who didn't even train full time was a master of it. And bh looping was so much easier with the 40mm ball even penholders could use it.

😂

Dan, let him talk.

@TableTennisDaily

5 ай бұрын

My bad guys 🙏

Legend 3:25

Ma Long is the GOAT

Ma long

Please refrain from using such clickbait titles.

LOL... his english isnt improving :D