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@Caretakxr

2 жыл бұрын

Hello med circle. I am a guy with npd and I have very mixed traits. I am trying to under why I think the way I do (that’s the narcissism speaking) and I would like to know if you have any advice/opinions. I kind of flip flop between a “covert cerebral” narcissist and an “overt somatic” narcissist fyi. Thank you very much 👍👍

@runlolarun8957

2 жыл бұрын

@@Caretakxr Though MedCircle is very compassionate and helpful for those dealing with loved ones who have this disorder. Others on KZread are much more compassionate toward those suffering from the disorder. I like MedCircle for a lot of topics just not this one because I don't think they offer any help for those with the disorder. Psychology in Seattle is better for those suffering from this disorder. He did a 10 hour deep dive on his Patreon about it. There are free videos on KZread though on the topic too by him. I think MedCircle has chosen one type of approach to the topic and it doesn't include much compassion for those suffering from it.

@nitaj2958

2 жыл бұрын

@@Caretakxr n

@matthewshaw3160

2 жыл бұрын

Hi I'm really struggling I really would like to speak to Dr Ramani I now believe that by I've been living with a covert narcissist with sex addictions ( not that she'll admit it ) I've been the victim of quite elaborate gaslighting. I need help learning how to let go of this person as I can't help her from what she is and does

@VestalNumbre

5 ай бұрын

3 This means everlasting life,+ their coming to know you, the only true God,+ and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.+ 4

Anxiety happens when you think you have to figure out everything all at once . Breathe . You're strong . You got this . Take it day by day .

@mirabelben2462

Жыл бұрын

I am feeling the same way too, I put too much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels. I am also glad to be part of this community.

@mirabelben2462

Жыл бұрын

Does he ship?

@liamphilpkent6250

Жыл бұрын

Yes, he ships discreet and anonymous

@liamphilpkent6250

Жыл бұрын

Dr.healingstrain

@liamphilpkent6250

Жыл бұрын

iG ☝️☝

Sometimes you might hate a narcissist but then other times just just feel sad and sorry for them.

@mariagill7129

Жыл бұрын

no matter how you feel its important to keep your boundaries and distance.

@Simon0

Жыл бұрын

@@mariagill7129 yes I totally agree! I very rarely have contact with the narc I know

@SB14567

Жыл бұрын

I don’t feel sorry at all They know exactly what they are doing Are we supposed to take the abuse and give them a pass coz of their diagnosis 🙄 Sorry ! not sorry 😤

@Simon0

Жыл бұрын

@@SB14567 nah I don't feel sorry anymore! I've changed since I wrote that 😋

@mioangel1227

5 ай бұрын

Not contact is the medicine!

"They have a child like emptiness in them" .... that made me sad , for them.

@g-starryne7451

2 жыл бұрын

I dont have feelings for them because they Are bad people they abuse a lot people

@g-starryne7451

2 жыл бұрын

Because they dont feel bad for you If you have problems they enjoy your pain

@sm-iy9bo

2 жыл бұрын

I was a narcissist I'm recovering though

@a.a.6552

2 жыл бұрын

I have zero empathy with someone who chooses to handle that emptiness in monstrously harmful ways to others. Zero. Compassion is reserved for people who don't use tactics of manipulation or exploitation of others for whatever the reason; self-respect & preservation demands it. The pursuits of the narcissist are strictly self serving, covertly cruel, & insidious. Since the field of psychology is secular & so divorced from using language like "soul" or other metaphysical concepts, I see no distinction between narcissist behavior & conventionally evil actions. Whether overt or covert, the repercussions destroy lives & 'evil' behavior is a fair descriptive word to use, even if one isn't partial to divergent epistemological origins in conceptualizing human nature.

@sm-iy9bo

2 жыл бұрын

@@a.a.6552 Shut up man they don't choose to be bad they're usually neglected by their parents when they need them the most

"Mental Healness" is a diagnosed Narcissist. I would love to see Dr. Ramani and him have a talk. I would also like to see her and Sam Vaknin have a sit down. That would be so awesome for the community

@MedCircle

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion!!

@darrinweatherspoon9223

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it would be great especially addressing mental health with a man of color. His awareness and openness could be a great relatable discussion opportunity. Please look into this request earnestly.

@OurgasmComrade

2 жыл бұрын

That explains why that Sam's videos of his commentary on some social issues come with a yucky feeling. Even if what he says has some insights that may be true, it still feels manipulative and back-handed. Also his conversations with Richard Grannon shitting on the field of psychology both come from a pretty self-absorbed place. It's good to exercise skepticism and criticality, but making a living doing it off KZread is a very ironic position when talking about narcissism lol.

@LarennPBel

2 жыл бұрын

Yessssss I love his content as well👍🏾👍🏾

@SAMEntalhealth

2 жыл бұрын

Sam= "The Nawsissisteek" lolll

Absolutely. My ex blamed all his deplorable behavior on his “depression”

@mysteryfusion1

2 жыл бұрын

Same and blamed me for his depression

@musicianwren9248

2 жыл бұрын

@@mysteryfusion1 Damn ... I am so sorry to read that. I know that kind of narcissist ... they come up with this parody of what they think someone with depression is. Their disorder is not your fault at all.

@louisafoster1640

2 жыл бұрын

I've heard this excuse made often, myself!

@ceegee2918

2 жыл бұрын

Same!!

@nackedgrils9302

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, my one narcissistic friend blames all of his faults on his ''burnout'' from 2-3 years ago which was ''definitely not'' the result of the sum of the problems he created for himself and the people around him. He also mildly mistreats his dog but it's ''her fault'' because she's acting so fucked up... As the years pass by, I'm wondering if there's any hope for such people.

They feel depressed about themselves and not getting what they want.

@emilyyanchak1623

2 жыл бұрын

This explains it all!

@hadessimpett6477

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a narcissist and this is so true.

@penderyn8794

2 жыл бұрын

Most ppl get sad like that tho

@PricelessBinkey1337

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, who *doesnt* get sad/depressed (depending on what it is) when they dont get something?

@kisigma1011

2 жыл бұрын

Majority of people are sad

i'm a covert narcississt and i knew about my personality disorder after i visited a psychiatrist for depressed symtoms. What she said is true.

@selkoa8384

2 жыл бұрын

Are you depress daily with low self esteem or only when you are by yourself ?

@user-xs4hv4vg7c

2 жыл бұрын

@@selkoa8384 I think it's more of a low selfesteem. I just can't stop comparing csat mock exams scores.

@selkoa8384

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-xs4hv4vg7c There a channel on KZread called Sam vaknin , he is a narcissist himself and treats npds with cold therapy . He is good . He has alot of videos that might resonate with you .check him out if you have time

@user-xs4hv4vg7c

2 жыл бұрын

@@selkoa8384 I appreciate your comment, like thank you so much. I can only afford medications right now, so i had no idea how to cope with my narcissism. Again thank you. The channel you recommended does help me getting the idea of causes, coping, facts about narcissism and i subscribed him. Have a nice day ☺️

@hix9306

2 жыл бұрын

Who did you go to and find this out ?

It’a taken me 17 years to start to understand what you said in 7 min. Thanks for all these segments. They’re helping me find the foundation under my feet.

Dr Ramani described my family member. Depression, entitlement, anger, failure to launch, grandiosity but unable to goal set. Need to dominate, pontificate and control. Addicted...not substances, but food and escapism via binge watching KZread and podcasts so they don't have to deal with life and can do their unending monologue/lecture on all topics.

This sounds like most of our society. One thing I’ve noticed about narcissists is so many people who know them make excuses for that individual’s narcissism.

@melanieknowles7002

2 жыл бұрын

True. Not sure why they do that. Not me....i dont apologise for the truth. I exposed the narc on all his false, two faced, plastic a@#

@mysteryfusion1

2 жыл бұрын

Yes exactly they can do no wrong in some eyes. As a society its getting worse social media is making more narcissist by the minute.

@stevewise1656

2 жыл бұрын

@@mysteryfusion1 Yes, social networks based on what I’ve seen, only serves God knows how many millions of people to have these build bloated egos. Some have hit the genetic lottery and many of the most famous like the Kardashian’s have had a ton of plastic surgery and air brushing photos. They are narcissists (Kanye). None of that is truly important, though young kids under 10 are seeing this and especially girls, are having body dysmorphia issues kids didn’t used to have in these numbers. Our society has become more and more about celebrating the self-serving and at the same time dumbing us down.

@ARedMagicMarker

2 жыл бұрын

I sure don't. I usually expose the narc in an innocent question. More in a "one of these things is not like the other", Barney-based thing, and ask for further enlightenment. Cue the stumbling, stuttering, and the word salad as they veer to change the subject. XD

@lolalani224

2 жыл бұрын

Could be trauma bond Could be flying monkeys Could be they are that good with the mask on that you would never suspect they abuse in private.

Glad she pointed out how narcissism often goes hand in hand with bi-polar, or substance abuse. Grew up with a parent who is all and still dealing with these.

@pickles9440

Жыл бұрын

I put up with mom for 53 years, she passed recently. I only discovered she was narcissistic about 3 years ago. If i had known sooner I would have run like the wind away. Hope its not too late for you. By the time I found out I was deeply entangled in her life.

when you spend so much time projecting a false image of perfection, how will anyone know when you need help, let alone why, how and how badly? sort of a twist on the "boy who cried wolf" scenario, since I treat most narcissists as if they are children, no matter how intelligent they appear.

@donnabayalan8894

2 жыл бұрын

That's so true they do act like children

@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a well-spoken adult why thank you ☺️

Please keep giving advice to those of us living with a NPD! We can UNDERSTAND them BUT what about US. This is so DIFFICULT.

@cacatr4495

2 жыл бұрын

1. Hold fast to truth, and 2. get away from them as soon as possible, as destruction is what they do.

@ankexoxo344

2 жыл бұрын

Accept this isn't your choice, get them out of your life or create distance. You don't have to suffer cause of them. Wish you well 😌

@sallymattiaccio7612

2 жыл бұрын

Make a plan Stan. You have the rest of your life. If you depend on her for some reason, you can't complain. Run.

@stillnotstill

2 жыл бұрын

You don't "live with a NPD" you live with a "person with NPD", they are people. Language matters.

@SherryONeill

2 жыл бұрын

@@ILoveTeles Me Too Proxy Boundaries Are Keeping Peace In my Life Even While Still In The Marriage ThankFully I Only Live With him For Half The Week🙏

I think I'm a narcissist. I'm totally devastated. I don't want to be this way anymore. Is there hope for me so that I don't suffer like this anymore or hurt others ? Isolation has been my only solution. I cannot live like this anymore. I'm desperate for help

@9battlefieldheroes9

2 жыл бұрын

Look into CPTSD and seek therapy if possible. I wish you the best

@tga253

2 жыл бұрын

Please find Christ, you'll at least, be repenting, and feel remorse. ..

@tga253

2 жыл бұрын

@@joephillips7612 I so agree with you. If any of us feel a narcissist, or bad. ..we can turn to God for help.

@dkmagos

2 жыл бұрын

12 step

We, empaths, are magnets to the Covert Narcs :( ! ! I always feel before I assess things more cerebrally when confronted with someone hurt/suffering/struggling/sad etc... even if there are red flags, It's sooooo difficult to discern the reality because my heart is taking in their pain . Please, Dr. Ramani, help us empaths with ways to protect ourselves better (with friends & romantic partners) .

Every time I have an instinct to watch one of these Dr. Ramani videos it pays off! I really needed this one! Still doing some healing.

@khushivers3

2 жыл бұрын

Difference between me and Suhani yes I want to be happy I will never say I went to that college but it didn't recognise me I will simply not go to that college because I know I was the happiest in PG and how to be grateful I know how to be happy and how to appreciate things I know how to not complain and act like the victim and lesser actually really f****** am that's what my dad did he just abuse me know and and this is only time whenever I am away from home I was so happy in 7th grade I just count my blessings in every time I got gives me a slight chance to alright it's not like I don't want to count my blessings for queue in the as he just to the redmi I was grateful for I didn't even mention it because I didn't want to taken away my mum made my dad take it away

I think a lot of this describes me. But I have awareness and I try to be positive and keep the vices to myself. I’m just trying to do something good with my life and help lift others too

@raylaughlan5324

2 жыл бұрын

Same. I need validation to fill the emptiness, especially. But I’ve genuinely killed the voice of “Im special and no one sees it” so now I feel like any self confidence I’m gaining is real confidence, not fake, narcissism-based confidence. Also, I’ve realized that being 100% open about my narcissistic tendencies, at least with close friends and my boyfriend, has helped me feel real connection/intimacy instead of fake, image-based connections where I’m trying to impress the person or get them to like me

@user-no8yv7mo1i

2 жыл бұрын

@@raylaughlan5324 bestie thats not what narcissistic disorder is, but im happy for you tho!

@donnabayalan8894

2 жыл бұрын

Narcissistic people do not repeat do not really try to help anybody but themselves so if you truly believe that you're trying to help somebody you're more than likely not a narcissist does narcissus cannot or does not want to help anybody but themselves and they never change

@donnabayalan8894

2 жыл бұрын

It's all about them!!

@julianbluefeather8491

2 жыл бұрын

@@donnabayalan8894 maybe but Narcissism isnt a diagnosis, its a term. I think they exists on a spectrum, as it usually stems from how you were raised, which makes it inexact

If you only knew what's really going on in the world you'd all be depressed if you had conscience...

@themaggattack

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I think that's why some people who live charmed lives are depressed, even though they have so much. It's Because they feel sad that so many others are suffering, and it seems so insurmountable they don't know how to possibly fix it. They feel helpless to improve the suffering of so many others.

@Dani-lc9hq

2 жыл бұрын

Feeling depressed for the state of the world and actual depression are two very different things.... real depression you can't feel joy even if something great happens, even if you have everything you could want in life, it's something that goes on inside of you and it doesn't depend on what's happening outside directly although of course things could worse it.... On the other hand if you are truly healthy in your mind, emotions and soul, the world can be a grey place, it might be hard to navigate but you could always feel hope and feel that light inside. If your emotions always depend on what is going on outside that's more a sign of weak energetic boundaries and copedendent tendendies I would say.... "can't be happy until things are a certain way..."

@rutrakainmeiez5107

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dani-lc9hq just shows how Little you know.Most ppl are selfish,they Care only about Their own game.and I dont blAMe them they've been trained to be this way.You see science and medical industry dont have all the answers.And if you only knew how sinister they are.You'd never go to a psychiatrist.Depression is not sickness of the mind.Its the sickness of the soul.Its your soul telling you"ok,I've had enough.I don't play this game no more.Depression is first symptom of awakening.Going to the doctor only gonna mask the symptoms of the disease.You cant take pills when your spirit is sick.We are depressed cause we live unnatural lives and it's about get a lot worse.We're in this together and the time is running out.Know thyself and be thyself...

@Dani-lc9hq

2 жыл бұрын

@@rutrakainmeiez5107 wow why would you make these assumptions about me based on a comment lol.... I know far more than you can imagine, I woke up 2012... and it all started with natural health and understanding how f up everything is, I don't trust the medical system, don't even get me started on pills lol.... I know depression has nothing to do with the mind and everything with your soul, I've healed myself from it... there are physical components too though like chronic inflammation, thyroid disorders, heavy metal etc... everything goes back to trauma in the end though.... mental illness is such a misnomer but I didn't need to address all that to make a certain point... I've been down all the rabbit holes, not just that, once I started to do real healing work I remembered past lives... I know about all the darkness and deep satanic shit, deception and agendas that have been going on not just because of researched but because my soul lived through it... and this is why I also know that if you truly heal your state of being is not effected by what goes on outside... you said it yourself if you know it's based on your soul. If you make assumptions about people you miss out on genuine connecting and feels like you keep yourself locked in a certain reality if you think noone understands just you lol.... our subconscious mind is powerful...

@Ash-of1yl

Жыл бұрын

@@rutrakainmeiez5107 You sound kind of narcissistic my man

Love this Duo ... & the design ... obvs love the content!!!!!

Amazing information... my parent who has narcissistic traits is always always attention seeking , which takes time to decode. It is very covert and exhausting when so many red flags are launching and you are trying have a typical reciprocal interaction!

@sixthsense8836

2 жыл бұрын

I read an excellent book entitled "Will I Ever Be Good Enough? Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers". Despite the book being for daughters, I TRULY believe sons would also very much benefit from reading that book. Just fyi

Dr. Ramani, Beauty & Wisdom 💙💙💙

@FatimaT714

2 жыл бұрын

Yesss she's beautiful and amazing, inside and out ❤

She’s amazing! I learn something new every time I listen to her talk 🤩

It's definitely a problem, i can relate to this. Thanks for posting the video, it's made me more aware. I knew i had a version of covert depression but narcissism is something I never thought i was going through. I think it's difficult to admit, "I'm struggling with narcissism" when depression is easier to admit. I now get it. I really have to work on this.

I love her voice tone. Soothing.

100 percent true Dr. Ramani! I was very confused about her behavior. I thought she is depressed and cared for her like a child. Now that monster is accusing me that I didn’t serve her better.

Very interesting, as always!

I think this is all a bad cycle of hurt people hurting people which then creates more hurt people and it continues generationally. I hope God can uplift everyone on the planet including myself. And that everyone can change for the better where they can. It’s very hard navigating all this.

Dr Ramani is sooo pretty 👍 😭 👌 ❤

@julianbluefeather8491

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if this video was from a couple years ago

@daviedood2503

2 жыл бұрын

@@julianbluefeather8491 could be. Was thinking like 2 years myself.

@rutrakainmeiez5107

2 жыл бұрын

Oh no,so simps are here too.God damn it it's a pandemic

@daviedood2503

2 жыл бұрын

@@rutrakainmeiez5107 naw man, I went over 25 years not complimenting women and in 13 yrs I think I complimented the narcissist perhaps maybe 5 times.. I assumed compliments to women would result in an automatic eye roll and a middke finger hence why 2 and a half decades of never really doing it. At this point, too many people have been hurt, damaged and their self worth has been sent to the dirt. A TRUE and GENUINE compliment to a woman during these times can actually do quite alot. They spend a LOT of money and TIME to look good. Why not let them know. After 25 years, I think it's time I start being somewhat nice man.. If that makes me some dehydrated thirsty simp'n pimp'n or whatever yall call it now days, so be it. 😂

@rutrakainmeiez5107

2 жыл бұрын

@@daviedood2503 nah bro,you giving free validation you're a simp

You just described my ex-husband and what I had to navigate for 23 years.

@joanneweiss3864

2 жыл бұрын

Yup .....me for 21 til my 8 yr old son & I finally were able to move far away.

Yep, both my sister in law & niece have allegedly been depressed. My niece in particular cries crocodile tears! Not at all convincing.

@coals6262

2 жыл бұрын

Narcissism (the clinical one) is usually rooted in depression as it’s caused by trauma in childhood usually from abuse and neglect so the depression part is generally real even ASPD can get depressed though a lot of times it’s expressed differently internally and externally in those with cluster b disorders

@2nerC9

Жыл бұрын

But you see, a lot of narcissism is depression. They hate themselves a lot and often feel empty inside due to having no goals or sense of purpose so they build an image to cover it up and try to fit in. It's very much the mentality of kids and this is due to some trauma they had in the past which was left unresolved so they failed to develop emotionally in a lot of ways. There are many who just decide to isolate from the world so they don't cause any harm. It's a miserable existence of self hate and fitting in which some types of narcissists take it out unto others at the slightest inconvenience.

@LibbySlaughter101

Жыл бұрын

@@2nerC9 I think it's variable - my sister was born into a loving family unit but her own kids weren't. Both her daughters have developed anxiety disorders & the rest of us (her siblings) just practise avoidance! Sad stories.

Fortunately came across this channel, just fascinating and heaven ❤ contents are such so helpful gosh just mind blowing explanations and I m understanding very well now ❤

The big difference is ungratefulness. A depressed person wants to get treatment and if someone online gives them unbiased advice, they won't lash out and project onto the person who wants to help them as a narc would, because you can't heal "depression" in a narcissist and to do so would expose them, and they definitely don't want to be exposed and so they make excuses and say "You can't make me do this.", "What if I don't want to?", "I don't need to hear that from you." and things like that. Anything to avoid getting help (excluding self-diagnosing themselves or going until they get a diagnosis and then quitting) - UNLESS they find a therapist that enables them because the therapist only sees it as depression and it's now the narc's little echo chamber to complain about everyone towards and to be enabled, therapists cannot talk back to someone if they think that person's being toxic, that's not a part of their job, sadly.

@charityrose5598

2 жыл бұрын

very true!!!

@Armz69

2 жыл бұрын

i agree. covert narcissist always have a way to spin things around in their favor even if it means painting themselves as victim.

@Gusta_Gustav

2 жыл бұрын

This really helped define the difference for me, thanks

@donnabayalan8894

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know actually. If a narcissist can be depressed. Depression is anger turned inside almost toward themselves and it's impossible for them feel depressed. Very long because everything is so wonderful Grand deos. This has been my experience with the narcissist for 16 years I'm the one feeling depressed believe me after this long of time you will be the one needing therapy alongside with them and I've always felt that I was a strong person and I can handle it but no it will wear you down eventually because they have no conscience and they don't care

@lucillebennet4233

2 жыл бұрын

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Your laugh ramani is the most beautiful healing tool for me!there is tremondous hope when I hear you laugh.I smile everytime!its possible to get ou laughter back!😂❤❤❤

This woman is a GOD SEND. DR. RAMANI. 💛💛💛💛💛

I literally say my narcissistic husband is Eore. My husband is the biggest narcissist/victim/crybaby. He has no empathy for others and only cares about himself. This is literally him to a t. I have chills.

This 7ish minute video has sooo much clarity for me. TY you for this. New sub. #HumanRace 🙏🏿🙏🏾🙏🏽🙏🏼🙏🙏🏻

@simachakkalakal8804

2 жыл бұрын

Hey checkout breanna_psychs on Instagram she has a solution to depression

OMG 😮 I can't believe that I found this video. He just lost his job for the 20th time and he is depressed and he has made me feel guilty about leaving him 💔

It’s so pathetic when the narcissist puts on the woe is me victim facade, while the rest of us put up a brave front, when we are actually dying on the inside.

You two are the best! 👏

This was very good.

I live with a narcissist. We were together, now we're just roommates and I limit my exposure so I can handle it. I can tell you that he is a narcissist not just from a need to control, but a need to be constantly with someone. He cannot stand to be alone and absolutely does not know how to be comfortable with themselves. He's afraid of growing old alone. I can be alone without a problem but he cannot. Eventually, when my cabin is complete on my property, I'll be moving out and about 25 miles away. I'll still be working at the same place as him. I just wonder how he'll cope when I'm gone. I'm sure he'll find someone else to fixate on but I wish the best for him.

@alarahillton1343

2 жыл бұрын

Is it Keith?

This is in my sister. “Oh woe is me, I have no friends. But also it’s not my fault, they are the problem. They don’t know what they’re missing out on.”

@christianpulisic7784

2 жыл бұрын

Rory Rose,You are absolutely gorgeous 🌹🌹🥀,you don't need a narc 😈 in your life!

Omg "they feel like the world passed them by" YES RIGHT WOW PRECISELY

Vulnerables may be diagnosed as depressed by clinicians who don't do the drive ; whats underneath this. So they may have the comorbid dx but we have clinicians who see only surface level things and that doesn't speak highly of our field. And the statement "the world doesn't see how great i am or how much i suffer" speaks volumes.3 E's.

I’m over 60, looking back, all narcs I knew were adopted, didn’t have a father, only child, or super competitive with all same gender siblings. They love money and power control more than life

@ALLfemalesLiecheatnsteal

2 жыл бұрын

proxy I’ve know many with same description. I’m dealing with a little shit now who’s daddy left for weed when he was 3. His mom then had several more boys all from different fathers. Guy owes me and others money. But so entitled he won’t pay back. He has one of those weird special names like Tristan not his name etc. but I notice when people have names that a trendy, make them think they’re special and entitled

@tamarbatyah7

2 жыл бұрын

Lots of Narcissists come from 2 parent heterosexual homes. Stereotyping fatherless children as more prone to narcissism is projection: Patriarchy and attempts to reinforce it by comments like these is male narcissism.

@ALLfemalesLiecheatnsteal

2 жыл бұрын

Tamar BatYah statistics say otherwise. Narcs also make up lies to make themselves feel better. Like pedos sticking up for another. Think or say whatever you want. Statistics don’t lie. My feeling is you come from one. Good for you if you’re different. But from your last passive aggressive sentence, my bet is you’re one of the statistics. I’ve worked healthcare for 35 years, masters phd, seem over 15,000 patients, you’re all easy to spot

@tamarbatyah7

2 жыл бұрын

@@ALLfemalesLiecheatnsteal - There's nothing "passive agressive" about my last sentence. I told you quite bluntly the first time and have no problem with stating it loud and clear again: your comment is narcissistic and an attempt to reinforce a male narcissist contract called Patriarchy. And NEWSFLASH: Statistics DO lie because they are funded by people with political and social biases. I'm a college educated woman. I've read scholastic articles as far back as 1880. At one point the scholastic opinion was that Clitorectomies cured women of mental illness. Just because a person with academic credentials publishes something doesn't mean it has survived the test of time. I wouldn't trust any study published before 2015 because of the lack of diversity in educational institutions, which were previously dominated by white males. Plenty of modern studies after 2015 show that children of heterosexual 2 parent homes produce narcissists. I've seen religious Narcissists everywhere, all led by religious institutions like Islam, Christianity and Judaism which promote male dominated and male led households. They all produce Narcissists in their religious groups.

@tamarbatyah7

2 жыл бұрын

@@ALLfemalesLiecheatnsteal - And for the record, I didn't have an issue with being "fatherless" growing up. I'm in defense of what I say not for myself but for the sheer fact that Patriarchy is just another form of Narcissism. You're a sexist who took issue with the fact that a woman has "boys all from different fathers". Might want to check yourself out for NPD since you take such an issue with women breaking the social contract of Patriarchy.

Mannnnn…. & I just got off the phone talking about this with a friend. My ex covert narcissist thought I was too good for him but still cheated!! You would think that would make them act on their best behavior if they thought they had a really great partner who they think they didn’t deserve 😆

@louisafoster1640

2 жыл бұрын

Mine said that exact same thing, and cheated on me also. Bizarre and deceptive creatures, as I found out!

@zhenren9703

2 жыл бұрын

"Crazy Rich Asians" the movie has your scenario in the story line... she was rich and he didn't feel like enough and was cheating.

@reptilianbro3615

2 жыл бұрын

Same here

@raylaughlan5324

2 жыл бұрын

This is because they feel like you only “love” the image they’re projecting, not who they actually are deep down, so they start resenting your for not loving the real them. To help with this, someone dating a narc could say something like “I feel like sometimes you need a lot of validation from me to feel ok, and I just wanted you to know that I’m happy to try to provide that for you as often as you need, because I love you just as you are ❤️” for example, as that would let them know that you see the REAL them, and you love them despite the “shameful flaws” they have

@norapeace6526

2 жыл бұрын

@@zhenren9703 omg!!! Ur right! I just remember that!

Bingo, not depression just manipulation of victimhood. Eventually you realize that real emotions can’t exist for others with total entitlement!

@stillnotstill

2 жыл бұрын

This is bullshit. Talk to people with NPD - they feel real emotions. They are people. Like... way to dehumanize people with mental illness?

@coals6262

2 жыл бұрын

The literal reason most have it is from emotions that they couldn’t deal with usually from abuse and neglect through childhood so by definition they’d have to experience emotion and more than likely depression as the reason the delusion of grandeur exists in narcissism is to make up for feeling isolated, not good enough, and small during childhood development through abuse and neglect.

The grandiose narc I know actually has something more than Narcissism - maybe be bipolar or split personality disorder. As Dr Ramani mentioned that it's very common, now I'm able to relate. I thought nobody will believe me that he's not just a Narc but something more than that & ppl will just think that I'm adding other terms, just to make him look more monstrous. But I knew that a normal interaction wasn't possible with him as his reaction was always different from what I expected to be (from a normal person) he was highly highly insecure & used to eavesdrop my telephonic conversations & sometimes randomly calling me 'not trust worthy' out of context.. & telling stories to dozens of people behind my back and I was always left wondering that what have I done/spoken to be called 'deceptive' 'not trustworthy', etc. Now I understand it was not me, it was his issues. The issues he was projecting on me & claiming that Im the 'mad person' and still using it against me. Secondly, the relationship patterns are always same. I saw him using exactly same ways to hover, love bomb, pursue other women. A narc will repeat same relationship patterns & will use same dialogues, same songs, etc. to catch attention of new women. This shows 2 things - 1. The love was not genuine as a normal person cant imagine new person in old person's story. For a narc, past person & new person are not 2 different ppl but 2 supplies. I cant listen to same old songs & dedicate them to my new person & will bury all memories related to him in past but Narc wont do that. He will use old songs to remind himself of the harm & hurt he caused you & will be causing to the new person too. So, old songs will remain with him like a pleasant memory that he got out of it without facing any consequences of his actions. 2. Rigidness & inability of a Narc to change.. he will repeat all the same old patterns whether its a new person or old one. They will never change even after therapy.

Can you do covert narcissism vs quiet borderline personality disorder?

@Hellakiddie

2 жыл бұрын

Good question

I remember you saying once that narcissists rarely come in for counseling. I was wondering if there’s any kind of an estimate on the number of narcissists in our country? Why are we hearing so much about narcissism now?

@christianpulisic7784

2 жыл бұрын

Donna Erickson,You are absolutely gorgeous 🌷🌹🌺,hope you are not with a narc 😈!

@PricelessBinkey1337

2 жыл бұрын

Cuz buzzfeed made it a buzz word.

@unbreakable4650

2 жыл бұрын

Ppl waking up... spirtual warfare is real

@opaladelaide

2 жыл бұрын

social media 😚

@remaininganonymous4129

2 жыл бұрын

Narcisissm has been talked about for a long time. I like to watch old movies and I've noticed it's mentioned alot. I believe it's becoming a problem because people are being raised terribly. The family unit has been stripped apart.

The worse is discovering you have it. Symptoms started to real show around 23 and through the years things got worse.

@FlawlesZMa

2 жыл бұрын

we are all sinners but we can be free from anything just like people was freed in the bible read of those demon possessed who nobody could tame, they had thousands of demons inside. only Jesus can set free..turn to him for salvation he died on the cross for you and loves you. we all need him!

Thank you🙏

Damn i need to start coming to this class with a jotter and pen because wow!

0:50 "covert like eyore from Winnie the pooh " Ommmg!! The narcissist in was with LOVED Eyore. I got her a little stuffed eyore one day and she got excited. I said idk he always made me really sad when I was little and I saw him. I felt so bad for him. She just kinda laughed a little. That's so odd how she said that and it matched.

@daviedood2503

2 жыл бұрын

1:32 "Ahead of their time" Yep, my dad would tell my mom that several times. "I was just born in the wrong time area" He wanted to be a cowboy like in the movies and TV shows. He carried a 6 shooter 357 with him alot. We lived in the country so there were snakes etc. When I was little I just saw it as what adults do. Now that I'm 38, I see perhaps that was him tryin to live out the little kid in himself. Pretending he's a sheriff or cowboy who knows. My dad's story is very sad. His own mother told him he was a thorn in her side since the day he was born. This is when he was 55 and dying of cancer. Had chemo and hair falling out etc. Lost even mote weight. When he was little she forced him to ride his bike and pull the lawn mower behind it and mow lawns. She'd take it money and give him like a quarter for a candy or soemthing. When he married my mom, he gave her the check book like handing over the money and would just work. It's very odd learning about this.

@leonrififi3543

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think liking eyore makes you a narcissist, personally I always found him kinda sweet

Wow, you described my ex to a T. Too bad I spent 27 years trying to figure out what was going on with him. About a year after I left, I finally read the right articles to figure out he is a covert narcissist. Light-bulb moment. People had asked me for years if he was depressed and after a couple of GPs assessed him, they said, no he didn't. Narcissism explains it.

@JazzyJADAxxx

2 жыл бұрын

Wow .. you must be very shallow

@kathybirkett7986

2 жыл бұрын

@@JazzyJADAxxx Hahaha.... OK... if you say so... but, why do you say that?

@minoozolala

2 жыл бұрын

@@kathybirkett7986 Just ignore the trolls. Many people have spent as long as you did trying to figure out what was going on with their partners. Great that you got away.

@kathybirkett7986

2 жыл бұрын

@@minoozolala Thanks for your encouraging words! "jazza" troll actually made me laugh out loud when I read the response. My ex was very subtle and I didn't know anything about narcissism. Besides that, I wanted to hope for the best and for change. And I agree with you... great that I got away.

im a covert narcissist, its as she said in the beggining a nightmare. my hope is that one day there will be a tratment so i could live a normal life.

@Pandazz79

Жыл бұрын

When did you have your collapse ? I isolate myself since my collapse its really a nightmare

@sjoe6282

Жыл бұрын

@@Pandazz79 well my whole life was at the brink of collapse but it happened about 6 years ago. Since then I couldn't get up. I wish I could tell you some hints on what to do to make it easier but honestly I can't. I binge myself on pc but it's not actually a solution just coping.

@Pandazz79

Жыл бұрын

Okay but do you communicate with others ? Or is the the pc your only supply ? I am constantly on my phone I feel you and I dont speak a word or go to friends family .. when I forcefullyt see them I pretend to feel good so that theyre not asking for me Bc I have no identity, I was very religious but now I think I did all of that bc of my false self and end up being unreligious

@Pandazz79

Жыл бұрын

Did you have empathy as a teenager or do you think youre a narcisist since you were a baby ? Since my childhood I had an evil side and I only remember those evil thoughts and the feeling when somebody did smthg wrong and I could feel better than them Sry my english ist not so good

@sjoe6282

Жыл бұрын

@@Pandazz79 I was born like this and I believe it's an inhereted condition. But I don't lack empathy. It's just that it's blocked. Many times I do feel empathy I don't want to see ppl suffer. But sometimes it's just like a switch is flipped and it's turned off. Don't worry your English is good. I almost speak to none like you do my only supply is the pc. I mean I really tried all my life to be normal as you did but it's impossible.

This woman has described me to the tee

Dr Ramani is the bomb!

Dr. Even knows the facial expressions of a narcissist. Gosh she is incredible. Thats exactly the facial expressions my ex would make.

Dated a narcissist with depression. “I’m always treated badly no one gets me”. Hated being called out but critiques everything. Even the way I looked watching tv or having a piece of toast without them 😭🙄. Claimed to be an empath but only when it benefited them. I do everything for everyone , I can do no wrong. Love bombing and latching onto you like Venom.

@sweeteverglades8381

Жыл бұрын

My sister is like this she’s awful

When I recognize that trait in someone else and it bothers me bigly ,I also have to look at my own narc. Traits that I dont Like bigly. Anyone else been reviewing their own character through the life they have led so far??? Always accepting Depression , anger, and focusing on the Negative News , cant seem to get to the Realm I wish to attain. Loving ...Joyful...Energetic...

These videos should come with a disclaimer about diagnosing an ex. Take responsibility for who you choose to be in a relationship with before blaming a pop-psych based boogeyman

This video totally resonates with my ex covert narcissist.

@vitthalpatil1974

2 жыл бұрын

Dont feel depressed listen to songs different corner or Linkin park band numb, in the end or Eminem

@velicanmaria7772

2 жыл бұрын

isn't it weird how everyone on the Internet has had mentally ill abusive exes? kinda sus

@eshagond5818

2 жыл бұрын

@@velicanmaria7772 Most of the times narcissists hate social media, and many of them look extremely positive or happy on social media because it hides their real life. I was 15y/o when a boy who was 18 at that time forced me to get into a relationship with him. I told him NO several times but then he used to get so angry that I got afraid. Yes, people like this exist and I have suffered through narcisstic abuse from him for more than a year. He gaslighted me too and it was really hard to seek for help because I was too young to understand this situation. Now I am going to be 17 next month and I still struggling because of the trauma of that toxic relationship. He also was in relationship with another girl when he asked me for a "break". He lied to me about his substance abuse but he smokes a lot of weed and drinks alcohol. I am still figuring out how I can heal, I have tried meditation and it helps but i am still extremely angry that I had to suffer and waste my time and energy bcuz of him and he is out there living freely. And also, he thinks that he did nothing wrong and that I am too sensitive.

@2nerC9

Жыл бұрын

@@velicanmaria7772 some of them are the Narcs themselves but they don't see their own side they see the other persons.

This is good

Yes, well, that's what I've been reading about. You read the core of the onion, you reach the core of the abandonment depression. It's like Dr. Masterson said, you drain the abscess of the abandonment wound. Also failure to launch, difficulty making something of what you've been given.

@simachakkalakal8804

2 жыл бұрын

Checkout breanna_psychs on Instagram she’s got the solution to depression

@alarahillton1343

2 жыл бұрын

One time a lady I had a chance meeting with at a small party said something that was quite enlightening for me as I’d never heard it thought of that way. She said,,,”depression is just anger without enthusiasm.” Like it meant that it was the flip side. Suppress anger, you get depressed. It must be dealt with. I liked your comment on the abscess drained. Makes a void that has to heal. But sometimes I keep picking the sore(s) of what all I suffered as a child. That interferes, sometimes, with taking flight. ////A lot of f**ked up people on earth; since this isn’t the place where the together people come.- And I am remembering one of the older circuit people,,Bradshaw, talk about how we keep attracting the same people,,,only,,, if we do our work,,, we attract the ones on our new level. Yet, it’s really hard to change. Most of who we are, and believe we are, stems from our in-utero experience, plus the first several years of childhood. We’re already wounded and told not to exist by the narcissist and then the ritual stabbings that occur the rest of our growing up make us dead ,,with rage inside. My parents were a trip.- I did do a process called corrective parenting therapy for 5 years. I’m about to embark on my 70th decade just trying to love and accept myself , and keep processing all I know. Then I have my faith , which is the best thing my parents gave me -w all the neglect and abuse. At least for me, Jesus and the Bible explain a lot. And I truly love Jesus.

@lilafeldman8630

2 жыл бұрын

@@alarahillton1343 yes, so true. Yes, Jesus and the Bible help. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't have made it so far.

I have adhd and i am concerned that i recogniced myself in these stories about narcism, i'm kinda worried right now. I really hope that i never treated someone like this :(

@diizyx

2 жыл бұрын

@@embellished6884 Sadly i can tell you that i don't have the money to go into therapy. I learned a lot about adhd through the internet but it would be nice to talk to a proffesional about specifik things. especially because it has been such a fucked up time with corona and stuff but yeah

@santorinirocksbykatie3552

2 жыл бұрын

I believe the fact that your concerned you might be is opposite of what a narcissist would be like. But idk. I'm curious about this

@beautifuldayzee5942

2 жыл бұрын

@Diizyx - you said “I really hope that I never treated someone like this”. That sounds like you’re capable of ‘self-reflection’. And guess what? That’s good news for you... because one of the most defining features/traits of Narcissistic Personality Disorder is ‘inability to self-reflect’.

@coals6262

2 жыл бұрын

@@santorinirocksbykatie3552 not necessarily I have both and self image/ fantasized image is one thing that’s important as if you do say do something you realize hurt that projected image whatever it is (can be different for everyone) than you can legitimately be concerned about it and still have it.

That was really good. Described the ex to a T.

This breaks my heart

@JazzyJADAxxx

2 жыл бұрын

Why ?

This is my spouse of 45 years. I’ve listened to you for about a year several times a week. This guy is miserable all the time. He will NOT EVER become aware and get help. WHAT CAN I DO? …probably NOTHING?

@meenakshi2bhardwaj

2 жыл бұрын

Same here... better to be self reliant and run😱

@bunille

2 жыл бұрын

You can't control anyone, because that's narcissism.

@cacatr4495

2 жыл бұрын

You can hold fast to the truth and you can remove yourself.

@florencia2771

2 жыл бұрын

Per my research, there in not much you can do, only move away from this person.

@jennylynn9668

2 жыл бұрын

I divorced mine and been no contact with my narcissistic mom for 5 years, your time is too precious to be sucked into their chaos.

Fascinating

Divorcing a bipolar narcissist!

I am afraid I am a narcissist or worse. I have been raised in an abusive household by a vulnerable narcissist for a primary caretaker. I have been diagnosed with cPTSD and BPD recently. I am scared I mask to a level where I can't be sure I am not like my mother deep down inside if that makes sense. Is there a vid or other content about this? About how do I know and what do I do? Thank you for any response. 🙏🏼✊🏼🖤

@JazzyJADAxxx

2 жыл бұрын

Being a narcissist is the absolute bestest .. these people are very envious of us

@kyreeseq

2 жыл бұрын

@@JazzyJADAxxx See, I ain't gonna invalidate your opinion or the way you feel, but my experience is very different. I am forty, I struggle with self-image, I am anxious and depressed to a point of paralysis sometimes, I fail at relationships and fear abandonment at the same time. Also, I single parent two quite young children and do not wish for them to suffer the way I did or still do.

@sarabjeetkaur7689

2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry you are not like her if this thought cones to your mind bcz narcisst never look at their faults thats a big red flag. You shoukd go for theropy if u can to someobe who understand this concept of narcissm Its just normal to think this way when raised in dsyfuntional family don't be hard on your self love your self to cope with it lots of love & light to you 💓

@derek123wil0

2 жыл бұрын

@@JazzyJADAxxx your mask makes you think you are the best but in reality NPD makes one a very pitiable creature that is only capable of mimicing virtue. You think you are envied because society is brainwashed to idolize psychopathic behavior and synthetic people.

@lynne9265

2 жыл бұрын

I relate to this so much! I struggle with the same thoughts and for the sake of my children, I don’t want to perpetuate the cycle. I believe the fact that you acknowledge it’s a possibility that you might be a narcissist, pretty much guarantees that you ARE NOT one. But keep working to break the cycle. You have already come so far!

I'd like to know when this was recorded. I don't think it's recent.

As a therapist, I'm asking if you can provide guidance on how to navigate a therapy session with a narcissist? I like to work on the preventative end to help narcissists heal so they can stop harming themselves and others. Naturally, this has been a difficult process.

@coals6262

2 жыл бұрын

As someone with NPD yeah it’s difficult because in my case the abuse and neglect caused me to develop a certain self-image in a way to cope with it and one undoing it means going through what caused it again and two it means changing yourself again where it could then cause an identity crisis. I’m currently going through treatment and yeah it’s not as fun and simple as some would make it seem.

My mother's covert with high narcissistic traits. She's been depressed and has a death wish for for the last 40 years because her life didn't turn out As she planned and now she sits in a miserable marriage. With the constant arguing going on non stop For the last 45 years, It makes you wonder why they still stay in the marriage. My stepfather also has high narcissistic traits. Maybe that's why they always argue both wants to be right and never throw in the towel.

I work with some one with very similar traits. So many continual issues, creates problems, good people leave, always staff problems when she is involved, big gas lighter and creates them against her behavior. But management believe her stories, reasonable people suffer - very sad.

Yep my mum was a narcissist and had severe depression, she'd lay in bed for days and now I'm just like her, I hate it although I don't hurt the people around me, I've pushed everyone away

@extraolive2006

Жыл бұрын

I don't think you're a narcissist, just struggling with major depression. How are you today?

I have an impression that if you stop assuming they have no soul and empathy, you'll see them simply as someone with cptsd.

Love the description... like a troll... yes! Hahahahahah... love it

I finished this video for one reason and one reason only

This sounds like my mother growing up.

My mom never got over her brother getting killed in Vietnam (Tet Offensive, 1968). I mean, who would? But she also said that she never forgave her mom for her lack of a reaction. (My grandmother reacted, but not how my mom wanted). My dad said that my mom started becoming "her" at this time. Then I was born 4 years later. Etc. My mom never dealt with her feelings because she felt she never could with anyone cause they'd never understand. So she internalized everything and became a nightmare. PS: I *am* actually the greatest guitarist that has ever played but no one *gets* me because I'm 20 years ahead. Lol j/k. I've been playing guitar now for over 34 years but my stage fright and resultant anxiety cripple me. Unless I ingest chemicals which won't happen.

4:35 - npd/bipolar

I think NPD is maybe like a protective shield against a total breakdown

@coals6262

2 жыл бұрын

It’s exactly what it is same with borderline, antisocial, histrionic (all the cluster b disorders) usually are rooted in trauma more than likely abuse and neglect in early childhood and growing up. They do tend to have a genetic component but the environment plays the majority of the part in causing it and if your parent has it your more likely to as well. It’s their to protect the brain from the things it couldn’t handle and you really don’t get a choice in it.

@mhtbfecsq1

2 жыл бұрын

@@coals6262 yea seems like that. But after my experience of being around narcissists, I think that they'd be better off overcoming the problem and be much happier because living in a false reality doesn't bring happiness or stop the pain, and they can't have healthy relationships .

@coals6262

2 жыл бұрын

@@mhtbfecsq1 I mean if it was healthy it wouldn’t be a disorder. But usually overcoming that depending on the severity in the individual and the severity of the trauma that caused it can make it harder to fix. Think about it like an atheist trying to become a devout Christian or any religion with zero doubt in the religion they once wouldn’t accept any truth in. Because it’s a world view and perception or interpretation of reality not a different reality in itself.

@mhtbfecsq1

2 жыл бұрын

@@coals6262 true. Plus I wonder if things like fear of abandonment maybe is part of it too. Their tried n trusted methods of manipulation work in having people around them and so to change in to being a completely new person is a scary and unthinkable thought for them maybe

@coals6262

2 жыл бұрын

@@mhtbfecsq1 BPD is the one with a fear of abandonment as a defining feature but Narcissism can have that trait as well and BPD can have traits of NPD as well. In fact many cluster b disorders commonly co-occur with one another or have atleast traits from the other think Vin-diagram. But the responses to abandonment and the way they manipulate can and mostly present quite differently in NPD, HPD, and BPD. BPD being more likely to harm themselves to manipulate others as well as may verbally degrade or explode someone who they think was special that “abandoned” then. NPD may pretend you never existed after exploding on you and move on to the next people for their need for gratification and praise, vs BPD who may obsess over the same person even after they’ve left.

Any help ? Because some people don’t even know they have these issues and they need help ! I agree people have been hurt and people should know what to look for but we need these people to seek help

You definitely describe an X of mine but, also, everybody on Twitter and tik tok

Narcissists haven’t fully grown up yet that’s why there’s a dependency on others. The feeling of emptiness is usually filled by cheating as they need to know that they are still wanted by others. They’ll tell you they love you only when they’re after something usually sex. They also have a heightened sexual drive and aren’t very fussy about who they’re sleeping with when cheating it’s just the thrill they love of doing something they’re not supposed to be.

How do i know if I’m depressed or if I’m a covert narcissist. I don’t think I’m better than anyone. But I’m sensitive a lot and i have low self esteem and i noticed i was seeking external validation but i stopped because i became aware. Everyone hates me and the therapist hates me so i stopped going. I feel empathy and guilt but Not until after i do something.

How do they treat this. ?

My husband is a narcissist. He’s constantly frustrated, never grateful, blames me for a lot things wrong but never acknowledges anything I do right, he’s very sensitive and defensive. I used to call him bi-polar (I think he may be).

This is my younger brother!

Divorced mine 2 weeks ago. Now I am second guessing all my discitions

It took me 20 years to understand that am stuck in narcisstic in law family So much is talked about narcisstic people What about people dealing with these monster kind of character every single day every living and breathing moment with husband mother in law and sister in law abusing What happens to my spl needs child who is seeing this abuse every single day and turns aggressive himself What do I do ? It has affected me and my kids badly 😔

Grandiose narcissists have bad depressive episodes as well.

Can the lack of self awareness and people seeking be as a result of something else?

Helping a covert narcissist is awful. They NEVER are grateful, rarely say thank you. And when they're unattractive matched with the trauma from childhood, it's even worse. Just wondering how to completely cut off all contact when you're in the same field. I want to know how to know if the person has BPD and Narcissistic traits, especially with substance abuse.

@Ash-of1yl

Жыл бұрын

What does their attractiveness have to do with it???

Yes the coverts I was with both suffered from depression. The third did not but he was an alcoholic and drank enormous amounts. 2:24 I had to laugh though bc thats exactly what the drunk covert would do when he didnt get immediate attention. "No..nobody cared about that, no.." It was like witnessing a child. I had to keep from laughing.

Is it wrong that I quite often feeel sorrrrry for them??? That’s my problem. Every time they’re mean… I later feel sorry for them and forgive them. How should i re-act?

It's kinda makes me sad. Like is it somthing they can't help? Or even aware that they are like that? Like I understand it can be so hard to be around someone who's like that but people often talk so so badly about people with it :( l

@cacatr4495

2 жыл бұрын

Do you wonder why people talk that way? ? Like everyone else, they, too, have made choices all of their lives, to walk down a particular path, and they have continually chosen their attitudes and actions. Given the harm they do, given how they devastate the lives of their children, spouses and others around them, given that they keep on making hateful, manipulative, dishonest choices, are they not responsible for their behavior like everyone else?? They know what they're doing. They know they hurt people, that they destroy their relationships and family, and they don't care. They'll even occasionally say so. Their behavior underscores that reality.

@carolyntu367

2 жыл бұрын

I had a friend she does have combination of depression and narcissistic behavior. She’s been posting all 8 social media platforms. Everything that Dr Ramani described is exact including the superficial, insecurities, arrogance, manipulation, resentful, entitlement, hypercriticism, bad rage, anger, irritable, & etc. I had said to her ‘maybe you should have a thick skin’ her reaction was anger towards me. That comment was because life is difficult enough not to sugarcoat it.