who cares about scores n medals, she pretty much is remembered forever with her spin she can really call her own

@germanwittgenstein4974

4 жыл бұрын

IT IS DENISE SPIN PRIVATE PROPERTY SWISS PROPERTY. ELPADRINO

@HelenaRG71

2 жыл бұрын

It is not her spin. The first woman was Karin Iten, who unfortunately already died (see wikipedia). She was the first with that spin but Denise popularized it. And there was also a Tamara Moskvina (Russia) in 1965 but nobody noticed due cold war. Her spin can be seen on youtube.

She makes those toe loops, axels, and jumps look effortless.

She didn't just skate excellently but she made it look effortless. That's something!

This is one of my favorite programs. Many skaters have performed her spin but no one can do it the way she could.

LEGEND.....6.0.......❤️Biellmann Legend and First Jump 3 lutz for woman!❤️

One of the best women free skaters in the history of our sport. She was years before her time - great jumps - first ever triple lutz landed in competition by a woman and exquisite spins. I always felt that had she stayed amateur after winning 1981 Worlds she would have gone on to win Olympic Gold in Sarajevo in 1984.

@Timzart7

5 жыл бұрын

Winning the 1981 Worlds allowed Denise to have a great career as a pro. That was all the boost she needed. I was relieved when she won the Worlds. She could then finally earn a good salary as a pro, and it would make all the sacrifices, hard work, and injuries worth it. However, none of her performances could match how impressed I was the first time I saw her skate, when she was 12 and I found myself on the same ice in Zurich one day. She seemed to take such joy in her skating during practice, and in addition to two triple jumps, I had never seen the spin variation that would bear her name, so it was a mind-blowing day. I talked to her mother then, and she told me Denise's figures were a disaster. One thing younger skating fans who grew up post-1990 wouldn't fully appreciate, after figures were eliminated from competition, is how frustrating skating competitions could be when the winner of compulsory figures would take the gold, even if sometimes their free skating was as low as 7th place, which was the case in the 1972 Olympics when Trixi Schuba won over Karen Magnussen and Janet Lynn. The Olympics are the big moment a skater trains all their young years for, and then wobble on a freaking figure, or put a foot down, and no chance of winning a medal, even if you are in first place in free skating as Denise was. Even worse sometimes, skaters who did not have the money to train figures, or skaters who started too late to master figures, couldn't even qualify for skating competitions. In 1980, if a skater had all their quads, they wouldn't have been allowed to compete, unless they could also do figures enough to pass qualifying tests. Some of those skaters switched to pairs or ice dance since, arbitrarily, figures were not required as part of those competitive disciplines.

@sheriffburfordt.justice4488

5 жыл бұрын

@@Timzart7 I still think it was a disaster to eliminate the figures. It required a discipline seldom seen today.

@carolinaalcalde

4 жыл бұрын

She is one of my favorite skaters, and I had the pleasure of having being trained by Otto Hügin at Dolder ice rink in Zürich. Really nice atmosphere.

@alexac3098

4 жыл бұрын

@@Timzart7 "Some of those skaters switched to pairs or ice dance since, arbitrarily, figures were not required as part of those competitive disciplines." One of those skaters was Jayne Torvill, who won the British national title in pairs in 1972 (72-73 season) with her first partner. He moved away/broke up the partnership after that, and Jayne tried to skate singles for awhile, but she couldn't pass the tests because she hated figures. Fortunately, she partnered up with Christopher Dean two years later. And interestingly, ice dance doesn't/didn't have figures, but it does/did have compulsory dances.

@alexac3098

4 жыл бұрын

There's a coach at my rink (aged 53) who teaches a figures class. She's trying to bring it back.

Her spins were exquisite.

I remember I used to love to watch her. Now with skating all about jumps and less about artistry she is a pleasure to watch again.

Denise was way ahead of her time. She is the only one I remember form that Olympics. She is my Olympic champion. I love this program and the music is gorgeous. Francis Lai was a genius.

@nancyoneil2991

2 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know the name/title of the song she skated to? I've tried for years to figure it out and still don't know. If anyone knows which one, please reply!! Thank you!

@bonnie_1219

Жыл бұрын

Love Story :) Film von 1970

watching Biellmann do the Biellmann :P

Потрясающая фигуристка! Какая красота во всем! Катание прекрасное, гармоничное. Все элементы взаимосвязаны, никаких дыр для особой подготовки к прыжку! Вращения блеск! Как я скучаю по такому катанию.

@user-tw4fl8lk4e

2 жыл бұрын

Так катается Алиночка Загитова, гармонично и грациозно.

@Iva119

2 жыл бұрын

m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/qK2Do9ajfsSxgbQ.html Очень красивая, артистичная фигуристка.

@user-vd4uj6bb9k

Жыл бұрын

Маша Бутырская покруче будет !!))

@user-mv8nh2lc1b

Жыл бұрын

Моя любимая фигуристка!

Denise was just practicing in her amateur career. She blew the world away with her pro career. Stayed in top physical condition and continued skating right up to 50 yrs old.

Обожаю Дениз! Столько лет прошло, а круто-то как!!! И восхитительный пируэт «Бильманн»!!!

@user-zk5jq2qr9j

3 жыл бұрын

Тоже восхищаюсь её стилем катания. Уникальна, неповторима. Но оценки ! Это же ужас - за артистизм 5.6 ?!!! Ну и судейство в фигурке было ...

@LidaJf

2 жыл бұрын

Пируэт Братусь- Москвиной, а не Бильман

@user-ez8yp4zr6b

Жыл бұрын

@@LidaJf Опять российские комплексы!

Denise is our swiss icon, just like Rivella, Cenovis and Toblerone... Denise, you're the best and we LOVE you !

4:10 My name is Spin, Biellmann Spin

@lucillecawthra8018

4 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@natashaadams6767

4 жыл бұрын

masmavituna That spin was presented by Tamara Moskvina (USSR) at first. There is a video on KZread.

@user-ih3sb4ng6q

4 жыл бұрын

a year before the birth of Bilman Tamara Moskvina (brother)) showed a rotation that was named after Denis. kzread.info/dash/bejne/naRrzqytqbSwZc4.html

@lmy7489

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-ih3sb4ng6q все таки, Братусь делала полу- Бильман.... А, личностей у нас не выдвигали тогда, только коллектив..... поэтому, и не стали продвигать "элемент Братусь"..

@germanwittgenstein4974

4 жыл бұрын

DENISE. DENISE SPIN.ELPADRINO

Восхитительно, по истечении стольких лет хочется пересмотреть.

@amalyaarzumanyan5202

4 жыл бұрын

Vera Severova в то время одна из моих любимых фигуристок

@jankapajgerova4463

4 жыл бұрын

Точно так и я подумала

It's quite amazing how much the sport has evolved for the past three decades

No one has ever done her spin like she could!

@armenianchik

4 жыл бұрын

And no one will ever compare!

Первооткрывательница вращений на гибкость👍💖

@nadiaysimonova8304

4 жыл бұрын

Помню её вращения , хоть и прошло 40 лет !

@user-ju2xx2wr7t

4 жыл бұрын

Наша Москвина первая показала вращение Бильман. Год точно не скажу, но на ютубе есть такой ролик.

@natashaadams6767

4 жыл бұрын

Наталья Якименко Правда ваша. Сколько идей запад и америка взяли(мягко говоря) у России и нагло представили, как свои.

@viktorias6248

4 жыл бұрын

@@natashaadams6767 Особенно поразило то, что что имя Д.Менделеева они открывой его таблице у себя не дали. В школах США висит во всю стеню его таблица, просто подписана - Периодическая таблица химических элементов. И в учебниках не слова. Максимум скажут имя английского ученого, который спустя 6 лет на таблицу резенцию написал.🤦‍♀️ Ч - "честность и порядочность".

@user-ez8yp4zr6b

3 жыл бұрын

@@natashaadams6767 Прям ага..все украли и все забрали! Не говорите бред, в основном все открытия и научные втч были на Западе!

My mother went Ice Skating in the Ice Ring from the Dolder Hotel in Zurich and she sometimes even saw Denise skating there😀

Thanks for posting. The quality is outstanding!!

Incredible skater!! Thank you so much for sharing! I'll watch her again and again!

Легкая, гибкая, артистичная))) Настоящий праздник)

@user-tx8kx9zm8x

4 жыл бұрын

Какои такои праздник.Не особо.Если б не вращение,никто б на нее и внимания не обратил.

@user-iq6wm2qh1p

3 жыл бұрын

Светлана Веточкина,Камила Валиева лучше

@user-ys7db5tw3u

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-iq6wm2qh1p Поживем - увидим) Сегодняшние фигуристки чемпионки на один сезон. Так что заранее не надо превозносить способности этой девочки. А Бильман-это легенда)

@user-iq6wm2qh1p

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-ys7db5tw3u сейчас вообще нельзя что-то прогнозировать.Но отрицать,что Камила более гибкая глупо

@user-ys7db5tw3u

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-iq6wm2qh1p Вы знаете, здесь о б этой девочке изначально речи вообще не было. К чему вы это всё написали?

bellissimo programma...sempre sulla musica..wow!!!

Nobody does it like Denise!

I respect her so much because she knew she would pay a price for trying to be more inventive (in the very conservative world of figure skating). But went for it anyway. She had the courage of her convictions. Yet she never once was anything less than a total LADY, showing great sportsmanship. The USA and I notice ITALY adores her too. Elvis Stoyko in Mens Figure Skating is the same. He smiles thought it when he pays a price. I love them both. The USA loves Denise and Elvis!

Как давно это было. Любимая и восхитительная Денис Бильман.

Даже сегодня интересно смотреть! Всё очень гармонично!

Without the technicals, she would have won the gold at Lake Placid! OMG! Today's figure skaters don't deal with the technicals anymore. She remains the greatest women's free skater to this day!

@RAFAAMARILLAS

6 жыл бұрын

atiboyful you got that right. She was way ahead of her time.

@averyfrederick5745

4 жыл бұрын

That was a horrible Lutz, great spins but that's about it. Not much in terms of style at all. She just never did anything for me, beautiful young lady though

@averyfrederick5745

4 жыл бұрын

And boy could she telegraph a jump. I think that's such an unattractive quality in skaters would you just blatantly overly telegraph a jump.

@hydrolito

4 жыл бұрын

They had compulsory figures they illuminated which is different than technical scores.

@sysjkb

Жыл бұрын

@@averyfrederick5745 I have heard the telegraphing was encouraged by the judging of the time, which encouraged clearer entrance edges.

Талантливая фигуристка.Выиграла произвольную,т.к.после короткой была восьмой, заняла 4 место. А пируэт первой сделала Т.Н.Москвина.Ныне знаменитый тренер

Her free skate knocked both Annet’s and Linda’s out of the park. Shame she didn’t place higher in figures. If she had, she could’ve easily won gold

Она опередила время, но система судейства не позволила ей быть первой, очень жаль. Прекрасная фигуристка

@user-gw6og7zw4t

5 жыл бұрын

Расскажите, если можно, про систему судейства в те времена?

@genafelman

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-gw6og7zw4t Было 3 вида,школа,короткая и произвольная программы. Школа это черчение различных фигур на льду. Чемпионов и призеров определяли по сумме баллов школы,короткой и произвольной программ..

@user-gw6og7zw4t

5 жыл бұрын

@@genafelman, спасибо)

@user-eh3gq2rf1f

4 жыл бұрын

Она же стала олимпийской чемпионкой в 1980

@steladimitrova7181

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-eh3gq2rf1f Она стала чемпионка мира, олимпийская Анет Пьоч из ГДР..

当時初めてビールマンスピンを目の当たりにした時度肝を抜かれました。 この動画を上げて下さり有り難うございます。今見ても、鳥肌が立ち涙がでました！今見ても美しいビールマンスピンですね！

@user-df2ef3fy4w

4 жыл бұрын

эти каляки на каком языке ? ))))

@user-dp1hh7qd8c

3 жыл бұрын

BL（ビルマンスピン）という名前を残した選手。素晴らしい。 けど……

Gosh , she certainly kept up the action throughout. Strangely I skated to the music " Belitis " ( the slow mid section) ..my final solo aged 60!

Элемент фигурного катания, известный сейчас во всем мире как «бильман», придумала и впервые исполнила на соревнованиях именно Тамара Братусь (в замужестве - Москвина). По одним данным это произошло в 1960 году, по другим - в 1955-м. Сохранилась запись исполнения этого вращения на чемпионате Европы-1965, на 12 лет раньше, чем его стала «крутить» швейцарка Денизе Бильманн.

@user-je8bo4sl3e

4 жыл бұрын

Интресно. Вот бы ссылку...

@user-yn8gq4ft3h

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-je8bo4sl3e это есть везде...в википедии..там и видео прилагается

@user-yn8gq4ft3h

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-je8bo4sl3e kzread.info/dash/bejne/eI2X2NSKdtfJaMY.html

@user-dm3xm7we4p

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-yn8gq4ft3h не знала,ведь все приписали Дениз. Несправедливо!!

@user-yn8gq4ft3h

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-dm3xm7we4p еще как несправедливо !!!!!

Денис Бильман, Анет Пётч, Катарина Вит...имена, люди легенды спорта!

@user-kj7hc8ub4s

Жыл бұрын

Еще Кристина Эррат с Берлина!

She was incredibly flexible. I saw her in 1995 at the professional championships. All the new women were the highlight. She definitely deserves more credit for skating. I believe her mother was her coach

Denise Biellmann и Толлер Крэнстон - the best for all the times

@user-zk5jq2qr9j

3 жыл бұрын

В сезон с 1977 по 1980 годы у любителей ФК было два кумира - Дениз Бильман и Робин Казинс. Публика от них балдела ! Я это помню. А мне ещё нравилась Линда Фратианни. Но ОИ-80 выиграла Аннетт Петч.

I remember watching that "Beillmann spin" (back when we weren't recording so we could rewind and watch it again) - mind BLOWN 🤯! That was so lovely to watch and I was so angry she didn't get the gold that year. Or at least metal

Какая красота!!! Ей сейчас можно выступать!

@olgatarasova891

4 жыл бұрын

Тамара Кузюр и занимать последние места

@user-vn1on6xt4z

4 жыл бұрын

@@olgatarasova891 ну и что! А мне нравится!!!

@olgatarasova891

4 жыл бұрын

Тамара Кузюр мне тоже нравится это настоящее женское одиночное, но факт остаётся фактом

@user-vn1on6xt4z

4 жыл бұрын

@@olgatarasova891 согласна

@marinagirard3525

3 жыл бұрын

Дениз сейчас 57 лет.Я помню это выступление в 1980 году..Мне тоже 57.И живем мы в одной стране.Она прекрасна,как и 40 лет назад.

Я не знаю кто этот пирует сделал первым ,но в памяти останется эта звездная девочка Дениз Бильманн

Молодец, ДэнИз!!!... С каким наслаждением мы ждали Твой, именно твой знаменитый пируэт Бильман... Весь стадион "взрывался" от восторга, и мы, сидя у экрана телевизора тоже

Я помню свое детство золотое, соревнования по фигурному катанию. Наши тогда блистали в парном катании, танцах на льду, ну и мужчины были часто на высоте. А вот в женском одиночном катании, не было у нас на тот момент чемпионов. А наша маленькая Лена Водорезова хорошо катала произвольную программу, но постоянно плохо выступала на тот момент в " школе". Сейчас этой школы уже и нет Такие же проблемы со "школой" были и у Денис Бильман. Она была на льду просто принцессой из сказки, она была непревзойденной в своих выступлениях И один из красивейших ее пируэтов стали называть " элемент Бильман. Я всегда ее обожала. И она все таки с стала Чемпионкой мира!!!

Einfach so genial. Ich war damals sehr begeistert von dieser grandiosen, sympathischen Denise Biellmann. Unglaubliche Leistung.

@musikus7092

6 ай бұрын

Sie war zu dieser Zeit in aller Munde!

Моя мама относилась к фигурному катанию параллельно, но знала Роднину и Дениз Бильман. И стоило сказать что Дениз сейчас начнёт крутить пируэт, тотчас рысцой бежала, смотреть это зрелище. И самое для меня непонятное - она умела считать число вращений в прыжках: тулупе, сальхове, ритбергере. А я до сих пор не могу уловить сколько оборотов сделано, хотя люблю смотреть соревнования. Сейчас посмотрела выступление Дениз, спустя столько лет и всё равно славно.

Wow wow wow! Bei Denise sieht das so leicht aus. Alle Sprünge mit soviel Leichtigkeit....

Denise was very good. ⛸️⛸️💕💕

She would have been Olympic champion if it would have been judged by todays standards. Kind of sad she deserved so much more . She was way ahead of her competition during that time :(

Loved watching her skate ⛸️

Une trés grande patineuse. Merci,beaucoup: Denise. 👏❤👍

Fantastic...Well done...!

Its so crazy how much older everyone looked before. Now everyone looks 12 at the olympics

Дениз классная!!! ⛸️⛸️

Beautiful

wow..spettacolare

1980... Gosh, such a wonderful choreography, everything is so light done. Sara Meier wasn't even close to such kind of skating.. bravo, Denise. Cannot accept there were no 6.0 Points..

Magnifique patineuse. J’adorais sa pirouette qui d’ailleurs porté son nom : "la pirouette BIellmann"

I was so confused when I watched her setting up for her lutz in that corner until I realized that it's because she jumps the "other" way! I hadn't noticed it until then. My kind of skater - they don't make them like her any more, sadly.

@tammyann8534

4 жыл бұрын

I skated the same way "leftie"

@s--cz

4 жыл бұрын

Wdym by “my mind of skater - they don’t make them like her anymore, sadly”?

@ingaiskhakova8123

3 жыл бұрын

Just like Sarah Hughes !

Умничка!Восхитительно!Какие вращения !Прекрасное катание !

Очень хорошо и ровно все делала , а ее тодес в конце выступления это незабываемо Браво

the ease of her flying camel spins 😩

Обожала эту фигуристку. Супер Дениз!!!!!

как же хочется туда - и мы молодые и родители еще живы....

Не знаю,кому то Катарина Вит,а мне нравилась Дениз Бильманн.,для меня она в те времена лучшая,ее перуэт вообще супер.

She is wonderful.

Many skaters to this day do the Biellmann spin. None do it well. She has the perfect back position and never drops her shoulders.

@AnnieCarraAnni3GaGa

5 жыл бұрын

Sheriff Burford T. Justice I think Irina Slutskaya used to do it amazingly awesome 👏🏼

She was robbed on artistic scores. Thought she was amazing.

She is the only one skater that can do that spin. The stretch of her back, arms, and legs is magnificent. Her spin is perfectly centered. Every other skater who has done this spin is pulled of center because the are not flexible enough.

@jeffreyferiguraii1865

3 жыл бұрын

She's the best but you may want to try and check a male skater named Michael Martinez. He has the best biellman in the male category for me

Tamara Mozkvina did a pre-Biellman spin in 1968, in a FP with Alexei Mishin.

Exceptional. Brava!

Если бы отменили первый этап (обязательные фигуры ) в многоборье у фигуристок до 1980 года , Дениз Бильманн была бы олимпийской чемпионкой Лейк - Плесида

unbelievable !

Well, she’s pretty amazing

It's way tooooo clean, i love her spin.

Больше 40 лет прошло! Смотрится ! Хороша!

love that spin!

Da werde ich 27 Jahre alt am 11 Dezember

PERFECT SWISS SPIN MISS DENISE BIELLMANN. ELPADRINO

She should have won the competition as should Ito in 88. These old school figures were a complete joke, holding back the real winners of these competitions.

Muito bem!!!👏👏👏👍👍

Она-лучшая!

Sehr schön die "Karin-Iten Pirouette" :)

Красивое катание!!!

Wow

Вращение с поднятой вверх (за спиной)) ногой ,названо по фамилии этой фигуристки !

@ksenianab

4 жыл бұрын

да, только она была не первая.

@user-yq5ue4mu3q

4 жыл бұрын

@@ksenianab Ну и ладно !

@amalyaarzumanyan5202

4 жыл бұрын

А кто первый?

@amalyaarzumanyan5202

4 жыл бұрын

Тамара Москвина, оказывается первая. Но назван элемент именем Бильман.

@ksenianab

4 жыл бұрын

@@amalyaarzumanyan5202 да, она.

She would have easily won the 84 Olympics if she stayed in.

@monicacarranco8525

6 жыл бұрын

Dustin Gabe remember she would have to deal with katarina witt to win gold which would have been hard

@knminp

5 жыл бұрын

monica carranco nah, katarina was lucky Denise turned pro. Denise went on to win loads of pro competitions even in the 90s.

@erese1335

5 жыл бұрын

I totally agree, she was so much better than the overrated Witt.

@corymajor7811

4 жыл бұрын

@@monicacarranco8525 Anything is possible but she cleaned Witt's clock in most pro events despite being much older than her.

Молодец ни разу не упала!Длиные ноги!Легко и сильно!

После короткой шла восьмой,выиграв прозвольную,заняла четвертой место.Насчёт хореграфии.Выигравшая золото фигуристка из ГДР Анет Пётч пластикой,артистизмом особо не выделяется.Просто технична и стабильно выступала.

Помню эту девочку, незря ее именем названы пируэты

Обратите внимание, она катается в обратную сторону. Опорная нога правая. Вращения, в том числе в прыжках, по часовой стрелке. Такая ситуация бывает очень редко.

@elenaskvortsova6467

4 жыл бұрын

Я тоже подметила. Стала искать в инете подтверждение что она левша, не нашла

@An-124.

3 жыл бұрын

Да,есть такое) немного не привычно смотреть))

I wonder how many great skaters today would lose if they had to perform school figures too.

Greatest skater of all time....!!!👌👌👌👏👏👏

Замечу, что здесь ей 17 лет и три месяца. Роста она была небольшого, всего 160 см, при этом уже в 14 выглядело взрослой женщиной, очень красивой и привлекательной. ОЧ она не стало, потому что рано было, в те годы медали давали "за выслугу лет", а к следующей Олимпиаде она уже ушла из спорта, перейдя а профессионалы.

It is CRAZY to me that the person who came in 2nd in the Short and 1st in the Long ends up in 4th....and the Gold Medalist was 4th in the Short and 3rd in the Long....and the Bronze was 5th and 6th. (At least Silver won the Short and was 2nd in the Long). CF were weighted too much over actual skating.

１９８０年レイクプラシッド冬季五輪フィギュア女子。ビールマンの、スケーティング。改めて、華麗です。

Красотка!) а тюльпан!!!)

This was a far better program than Anette's....

The middle section slow music: "Bilitis" by Francis Lai

She remembered for Biellmann spin if she won or not. McDonald brothers are remembered for McDonalds restaurants even though they went bankrupt, hopefully that did not happen to her.

You always have to wonder about Denise Biellmann and what would have been if she hadn't retired in 1981. Judging by her level of performance here, executing one of the first triple Lutzes and popularizing the Biellmann spin position, I mean those are the standard in women's skating even in 2020. Judging by the level she competed at professionally in the 1990s where immediately following the 1994 Olympics she still dominated and regularly wiped the floor with Oksana Baiul and Nancy Kerrigan both while well into her 30s and by the end of the decade also beat Kristi Yamaguchi in pro competition. It's just that pro titles don't hold Olympic clout. There is little doubt in my mind that if she continued on the Olympic scene, Katarina Witt, as much I love her, would not have been the double champion star she became. She likely would not have had those Olympic golds or even those European titles. Denise would have been the force to be reckoned with for the entire decade and could have still impacted in Lillehamer if she felt like it.