I‘m an audio engineer - Audiophiles are basically the laughing stock of our field. Working with them can be annoying, but you can trick them really easily - if they bring up a non existing issue with your mix for example, you twist some knobs on machines that aren‘t connected, give them some verbose explanation of what that did and play them the same mix again - they will, without fail, agree that it sounds much better 😁

@SubsonicNoise

Жыл бұрын

It helps when you mention how expensive the machine you twisted the knob of was!

@llaeeZ

Жыл бұрын

IMO there are two kinds of audiophiles. The ones that you talk about, the laughing stock of the industry, and ones like me that are much more in line with the audio engineering way of thinking.

@SubsonicNoise

Жыл бұрын

@@llaeeZ Yeah, tho the latter usually are embarassed to call themselves audiophile because of the former :p Like, I‘d probs qualify as the latter but I cringe if someone calls me that

@SubsonicNoise

Жыл бұрын

@@feralfeline6137 The problem is these types are kind of like conspiracy theorists - the base idea is alright (questioning your government / caring about sound) but all the nonsense they delve into completely erases any possible good that base idea could have had :p

@llaeeZ

Жыл бұрын

@@SubsonicNoise the 'budget audiophile' subreddit is a good one. There isnt enough money for bullshit snake oil. If someone asks for recommendations on cheap desktop speakers 9/10 answers are likely going to be studio monitors.

They should have added a rewind feature to this. Demagnetize and rewind all in one convenient device!

@Mikexception

Жыл бұрын

And separate device - magnetization detector for those who sometime are not capable to recognize that problem

@Not-Only-Reaper-Tutorials

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@nate_d376

Жыл бұрын

It would spin it backwards, right?

@JamesTK

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I've got a pile of CD's that I'd love to rewind 🤪

@drworm5007

Жыл бұрын

Stupid people I can't believe how dumb you are! You don't need to rewind a CD!! IDIOTS!!! Turn it over and play the other side then it will be back at start. Gosh!

The RD-1 is basically it's region. It can only demagnetise Japanese magnetic fields.

@baxter22071990

6 ай бұрын

So he nweds to redo it with a jpop cd? 😅

The genious dry humor of putting 3 high-powered magnets on a CD called Ultramagnetic is why I have been subscribed to this channel for several years now.

@MetalFan10101

Жыл бұрын

Thats pretty wet as humour goes

@univon4892

Жыл бұрын

@@MetalFan10101 Yeah ong

@niagaramike528

Жыл бұрын

I'm embarrassed that I didn't catch the group name. :)

@whyyoulidl

Жыл бұрын

Ah, Ultramagnetic MC's - first heard these lot on Mike Allen's Capital Radio show back in the 80's...

@ccricers

Жыл бұрын

The test is flawed. The MCs are far too magnetic and you can't take that from them.

What won't an audiophile buy? A hearing test.

@WH250398

Жыл бұрын

OOF

@hexagonist23

Жыл бұрын

Everytime I see an audiophile I want to rip both of their ears off so all of their expensive speakers become useless

@ggrahame09

Жыл бұрын

That's because most clinics don't have test equipment fitted with gold plated connectors, audiophile grade capacitors built in a 100% oxygen free environment and headphones with their own power supply and hand crafted valves. So they'd be no point, it just won't have the same sound quality as the hifi they own and their ears will reject the sound, giving a clearly false reading of hearing deterioration.

@Thermalions

Жыл бұрын

@@ggrahame09 Bit of a shame the 100% oxygen free listening environment option didn't catch on amongst audiophiles.

@hob991

Жыл бұрын

Speak up I can't hear you!!!

Nicely done. More Snake Oil for Audiophiles. I've long suspected that audiophiles enjoy listening to their equipment far more than they enjoy listening to music.

@Badonicus

Жыл бұрын

You're not an audiophile if you're listening to CDs.

@Jako1987

Жыл бұрын

Real audiophiles listen only live performances in the studio without any electronic alternations /s

@davegesell5470

Жыл бұрын

@@Badonicus The people that spent $5000++++ on separate CD transports and DACs would very much beg to differ.

@pascalbruyere7108

Жыл бұрын

@@Badonicus I will admit that on average, my vinyls give me more pleasure than my CDs but it might be a learned thing, nostalgia, habit, etc. Or that I don’t have a good enough CD player… 😉

@DejanTesic

Жыл бұрын

@@Badonicus Oofff...

I love how he subtly roasted gold plated optical cables as well 😂

@rockerseven

Жыл бұрын

I mean I understand the need for gold plated cables, not for audio quality, but for anti-corrosion. And I do understand the need for metal optical cable tips so they are harder to accidentally snap than plastic ones. But yeah, since optical is light I don't know why anyone would buy gold plated optical cables lol.

@JathraDH

Жыл бұрын

@@rockerseven I mean if I had the choice between gold plated optical cables and non gold plated ones and they were basically the same price, id buy the gold plated ones. They look nicer. Aesthetics are still a major part of buyer choice. It's very much a "high quality cables have gold plated ends" consumer bias but also a aesthetic one at the end of the day. I would imagine its far more of a "if we don't have gold plated tips we appear cheap" thing however. Marketing rarely relies on the actual quality of the product, only the perceived value to the mass market.

@_--_--_

Жыл бұрын

@@rockerseven Yeah especially in very humid environments. I had several cheap HDMI and similar cables in a drawer for some years, half of them the contacts completely rusted away. When I buy cables now (especially stuff like HDMI where the contacts are tiny) id rather spend an extra $1-2 for gold plated stuff so that it lasts for more than a couple years if its just lying around somewhere not plugged in. To be fair there are plastic caps that mitigate this issue, but most cables dont come with them, ordering them seperately is more expensive than just buying the gold plated stuff and last but not least youll loose them anyway.

@kimgkomg

4 ай бұрын

It looks cool

@tyttuut

8 күн бұрын

​@@_--_--_ are your drawers full of salt water?

Best audiophile device I've found to this day is good old fashioned THC. Make your 1998-era MP3s over cheap earbuds sound like a concert hall! Even has a built-in visualizer sometimes.

@esprit101

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I heard from... other people... that they suddenly found trance music irresistible, despite not liking that genre at all while sober.

@kakarotox

Жыл бұрын

Can I get this on ebay?

@crescentfresh8001

Жыл бұрын

@@kakarotox It'd be easier to find a dealer or go to a dispensary for it, but I'm sure someone's secretly selling it on eBay.

@solenoidnull9542

Жыл бұрын

@@crescentfresh8001 Totally not Oregano

@AsmodeusMictian

Жыл бұрын

This took me ENTIRELY too long to pick up on. For whatever reason I read THC but my brain processed it into THX and I heard that weird 'test sound' that usually came with the logo. Then I read the comment again. Very well played :'D

“Gold plated optical cables.” I see what you did there. Good one!

@PerMejdal

Жыл бұрын

4:15

@johnseagram2318

Жыл бұрын

I laughed at that... and after a quick search found they exist! (Although it does seem to be just the connectors and not the whole cable)

@johncarolin51

Жыл бұрын

That line absolutely killed me. This whole genre of video is great.

@rich1051414

Жыл бұрын

@@johnseagram2318 And they are electrically isolated(Which is great, it's why optical still exists today). The only argument would be to make the cable more durable while also not damaging the anti-corrosion layer on the port you plug into. Absolutely zero sonic improvements, though.

@TheTetrapod

Жыл бұрын

@@rich1051414 Ah yes, the notably durable gold...

5:45 I'm a little surprised you didn't consider the possibility that your old CD player couldn't read the disc simply because it was "heavily magnetized" 😁

@wirenutt57

Жыл бұрын

I just got an idea for a CD player laser demagnetizer! Surely, it would be an audiophilic (new word?) complement to the CD demagnetizer. You don't want to demag your CD then play it in a magnetized player!

@markfergerson2145

Жыл бұрын

@@wirenutt57 You can't patent it now that you've revealed the concept in public but I bet you could still sell thousands of them. Just a blank CD with a bunch of rare earth magnets embedded in it with alternating polarity. Won't grab the metal parts of the player and seize it up at all...

This contraption reminds me suspiciously a CD rewinder...

Having an understanding of how data is read from a cd, how a digital signal differs from an analog signal, and having a rudimentary understanding of sampling theorm and digital audio compression is a lot more than most consumers at the time would be knowledgeable about. It's the perfect snakeoil product

@M4D0GG0

Жыл бұрын

Also deMAGNETise OPTICAL media

@alext3811

Жыл бұрын

CD's aren't compressed. Unless you're talking about sampling or limitations of bit depth.

I must confess I love a bit of audiophile snake oil. Always fascinating, in particular the guff they makeup to try to convince. My favourite to this date is the gold plated TOSLINK cable.

@Haydos

Жыл бұрын

It's now a running joke

@scorch527

Жыл бұрын

I love the word guff, definitely gonna use that in daily life from now on

@Clarence_13x

Жыл бұрын

Lol, I worked at a RadioShack concept store literally filled with stuff like that. Lol, gold plated optical cables.

@BriBCG

Жыл бұрын

It's even more amusing when you consider that if you were to fully plate a toslink connector it would cease to function.

@kelvin1316

Жыл бұрын

But the gold plated TOSLINKs are useful, they reduce the interferometric rebounce of the internal refraction index meaning the data is less effected by the inversion matrix cause by the negative ion cascade! (I may have watched too much Star Trek Next Gen as a kid...)

“As it turns out, I can talk about things for longer than I imagine I can.” I love your dry delivery on such hilarious things.

@wirenutt57

Жыл бұрын

This is why I love the British sense of humor. So much subtler that the humor on this side of the Atlantic. A little tickle instead of a jab in the ribs.

@sergioricardoarjonamarrufo4946

Жыл бұрын

"I just don't see the attraction". Epic line. Thanks !😊

@Ugly_German_Truths

Жыл бұрын

I liked his other sentence better. "playing the CD back perfectly every single time". Remember why he had to use the HD VMD player? His CD player FAILED to play back a CD ;)

I would have liked to see a magnetic field viewer passed over the disc, just to show that it can’t be magnetized

@pulsefel9210

Жыл бұрын

anything can be magnetized with enough effort. given the output of a nuclear reactor you could magnetize a human.

@ethzero

Жыл бұрын

Damn. Just deleted my redundant comment 😀. But yes, would love to empirically prove this.

@ethzero

Жыл бұрын

And also put the magnet field viewer on the unit itself!

@techadmirer6475

Жыл бұрын

same here

@DoubleMonoLR

Жыл бұрын

It's irrelevant anyway though, it wouldn't make any difference. Heck a number of CD players used magnetic clamps to hold them in place while playing anyway, including pc drives which could read at up to 52x with no errors...

Magnetic audiotape has a relatively high coercivity. The bulk erasers I used back in the analog era drew several amps and buzzed loudly enough to be heard from another room.

@Roxor128

Жыл бұрын

I've heard of IT departments using them for wiping backup tapes. Maybe the manufacturers sell the same devices to both?

I can confirm the findings in this video, I ran Metallica's Death Magnetic through the demagnetiser a couple of times and it still sounded awful afterwards.

@GamesFromSpace

Жыл бұрын

You probably demagnetized it upside down. That disc also sounds better when played upside down.

@PaulTheFox1988

Жыл бұрын

@@GamesFromSpace I've heard rumours that it sounds better being played on an angle grinder while using a brick to read the data off the disc, not that I've tried it mind, I don't hate myself that much to listen to metal licker* :D *just kidding, I do genuinely enjoy some of Metallica's work so I hope no one takes it seriously

@Hykje

Жыл бұрын

The problem is that the magnetic disappears leaving the CD soaking in death.

@michealmccann

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@ggrahame09

Жыл бұрын

@@GamesFromSpace I find the best playback is inserted vertically in a toaster

You just demonstrated it works: the CD was fully demagnetized after using that device. This just reminded me of throwing some more elephant powder on my balcony. In all the years I used it, never got an elephant on my balcony. Such a great product!

@olmostgudinaf8100

Жыл бұрын

I know, right? It worked with my volcano insurance, too!

@LWolf12

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget to hang up some wolf's bane. I've been using it and I've never had a werewolf problem. It works perfectly.

@michealmccann

Жыл бұрын

🤣, same with my clown killer dust, i sprinkled it on the threshold of my property years ago, ang guess what!, no clown killers ever come on my property, what a great product.

@kitsunekaze93

Жыл бұрын

@@LWolf12 i tried hanging garlic garlands to ward off vampires, but my neighbour keeps stealing the cloves to make garlic sauce

@LWolf12

Жыл бұрын

@@kitsunekaze93 I'd keep an eye on em, probably a vampire sympathizer. Like an IRS agent. 👀

those gold plated optical cables may not gain anything from being gold plated, but at least the cables are functional, which is more than can be said for this device

Perfect to pair with my DVD rewinder!

The funniest thing to me is when they suggested that Aluminium being a “weak magnetic material” meant that it was particularly susceptible to magnetic fields, using weak in the exact opposite way.

@RaineStudio

Жыл бұрын

Just as insulators are particularly susceptible to electric fields!

@smoguli

Жыл бұрын

It's an homeopathic kind of magnetism...

@anteshell

Жыл бұрын

@@RaineStudioInsulator materials do not insulate electrical field. They insulate electric current. Two entirely different things. In fact, there would not be insulator materials without them being "susceptible to electric fields" because that is the force that keeps the molecules together.

@louistournas120

Жыл бұрын

Aluminium, like most materials, is probably weakly diamagnetic. This means that if you pass a magnetic field through it, a weak magnetic field is generated in the opposite direction and the aluminium is pushed away. This is a very weak effect. Bismuth is far more diamagnetic and water is also slightly diamagnetic. Anyway, once you remove the external field, diamagnetic materials no longer produce their own field.

@mandi8345

Жыл бұрын

@@louistournas120 Yep, pretty much. If you drop a magnet down a tube of kitchen aluminum foil, the eddy currents induced will also create a magnetic field that will push back against the magnet slowing its fall. Except thats pretty much all to do with conductive metals, and the magnetic field is a by product of the electrical action, so has nothing to do with the magnetic properties of the metal (other than not attracting the magnet in the first place like those damn cheap steel broom sticks...). On the plus side, with that device (I might have missed it, but they're called degaussers, and can be used too blank VHS, HDD, and credit cards(or any mag stripe card)) one could demagnetize a whole hand full of screwdriver bits at once!

"As it is it turns out I can talk about things longer than I imagine I can." That is the essence of Techmoan.

@thexboxfurry745

Жыл бұрын

Hw could pick up any random electrical device and talk about it for an hour, and I would still listen

”for that they could have gotten a goldplated optical cable” XD

Using an ultramagnetic MCs cd is hilarious, you’ve also got a great taste in music from what I’ve seen I remember you showing a dr. octagon cassette in a video a while ago

CD demagnetizer, CD chamferer, gold-plated optical cable, HD VMD player -- I love how you took every opportunity to turn this into a hall of shame highlight reel!

@nobodynoone2500

Жыл бұрын

There is a whoile industry devoted to this kind of scam, its called 'Audiophile".

@turokforever007

Жыл бұрын

The mega rich paid for it all but everyone else called out the BS.

@Zullfix

Жыл бұрын

for the record, just about every gold plated cable is bs. They always plate the shell in gold but never the contacts.

Please do more audiophile stuff. I love seeing it.

@Uberhood

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, please sell us more snake oil Mat ;-)

@Alpine_flo92002

Жыл бұрын

Please do less audiophile stuff, I hurts seeing it.

@KatouMegumiosu

Жыл бұрын

You meant to say "more snake oil expose"

@Haydos

Жыл бұрын

@@Alpine_flo92002 yes that's why i love seeing it 😂

@Haydos

Жыл бұрын

@@KatouMegumiosu yeah but it's still audiophile stuff. I also like non snake oil stuff

The ERASE button says to me the circuit was originally a bulk tape eraser, they simply thought to re-market.

@nobodyimportant2470

Жыл бұрын

Except it doesn't work on tapes.

@matthewn1805

Жыл бұрын

@@nobodyimportant2470 I have used them in the past and I can assure you they do!

@gabrielv.4358

Жыл бұрын

makes sense

I love that you chose a CD by Ultramagnetic MCs for this experiment. 😄

I'm loving this new "junk audiophile tech" series

Considering how every tweak widens the sound stage, modern audiophile setups must make it sound like the members of The Beatles are playing on different continents.

@hegedusuk

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget it separates the instruments

@Alef.93

Жыл бұрын

High fidelity has reached a level that even sounds like John Lennon is playing from the afterlife.

@paulstubbs7678

Жыл бұрын

Like the instruments in one continent and the singers in another

@BrunodeSouzaLino

Жыл бұрын

That widening of the sound stage is most likely the huge reverberant untreated room these nutjobs put their equipment in.

@Alef.93

Жыл бұрын

@Bob They are re-releasing the Revolver album with a modern mix, quite different from the old mixes.

Now we want a schematic of it. Please send this thing over to Big Clive, he takes it completely apart and gives us more details what it does or doesn't do. So mayby you could erase old harddisk with it, they manufacturer advertised the product wrong then.

@gabrielv.4358

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

@creamcheese746

Жыл бұрын

Love him! Yes!

@hashbrown777

Жыл бұрын

If it cant even distort an unshielded tape it cannot hope to touch data on a harddisk. You can whack huge neodymium magnets on disks to no effect.

I am always astounded that so called audiophiles (who usually spend a LOT of money) cannot apply simple logic to ruling out such piffle.

@lakerfan2874

4 ай бұрын

For me, it's about what they listen to and what albums they highly praise. I like Space Oddity more than Dark Side of the Moon, and I believe that Space Oddity is better than the latter. One's a drag, and you can't figure out which track you're on besides "Time" and "Money" while Space Oddity has longer songs, and it makes a story with what is on the album, while Dark Side of the Moon is a bunch of rubbish fit in between 2 great tracks. I won't mind listening to it, but I think I might be listening to it wrong as I'm listening to it sober instead of being stoned or on LSD.

I’m surprised you found that much inside the device. It would function equally well at fooling the sucker with a resistor, diode, capacitor, and the push button and led.

@TheAdatto

Жыл бұрын

Yeah seeing the coil that big was impressive. Still useless.

@xaeon

Жыл бұрын

With the electronics present, all claims made by the manufacturer are either subjective and/or highly conditional. It would be easy for them to claim in this video that either his disk simply lacked any of the ferromagnetic impurities they claimed, or that his player was simply not one that could be affected by the disk's level of magnetization. As long as the device does indeed attempt to demagnetize objects, then it's not technically a crime.

@RaineStudio

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAdatto If it was even copper. Could have been spray painted on top!

@YourAliasIsNotAvailable

Жыл бұрын

@@xaeon So if I at least TRY to be a heart surgeon there is no harm done and it's not a crime? I doubt that.

@nihonam

Жыл бұрын

what a waste of copper

It's the sort of product my Hifi enthusiast cousin would've owned and swore blind he could tell the difference it makes. He once boasted about being able to hear the drummer picking up his sticks on a CD with his setup, my brother with his cheap sharp hifi put the same CD on and could hear it as well.

@ArlenMoulton2

Жыл бұрын

I can hear John Lennon shout "WOAHHHH, F***ING HELL!" in the background of Hey Jude on my HiFi... I can also hear it on a £5 portable FM radio, it's all about what you're listening for.

@eddyrocks

Жыл бұрын

@@ArlenMoulton2 can also hear it from a compressed Spotify stream. Totally agree.

We had to replay some bits because we laughed so hard that we couldn't hear your next words....didn't want to miss a moment of this gem. "Demagnetizing vinyl" indeed! On the other hand, perhaps if I demagnetize my socks, it will improve the timbre of my voice; maybe I can sound as good as you!

I think there was a whole cottage industry of maguffins like this designed to separate 'audiophiles' from their money. I've met people who swear up and down that because they paid $1000 for a cable, the sound coming through it is magically amazing. I'd be willing to bet someone who paid $300 for that thing (probably a lot more in the original year value) would believe they were hearing some difference, and in their mind, maybe they are.

@johnpekkala6941

Жыл бұрын

The absolute worst things I have seen are magic stones for 1000s of dollars that u place on your equipment to somehow magically improve the sound. Another one is an ethernet cable for over 1500 dollars claiming to improve the sound quality on the music you stream over internet (of course using a servce like Tidal wich have lossless quality). First of all, the cable is digital and second it ignores completley the 100s of miles of ordinary ethernet cable (unless you have optical cable all the way to your house but it does not matter, as said the signal transmitted is digital). I consider myself to be an audiophile but a pair of good quality Cervin Vega XLS12 speakers and a decent Yamaha reciever I find are good enough to give me really nice and dynamic sound I can really enjoy weather its Beethoovens 5 or Psy trance. Im an all eater when it comes to music but I like good dynamics in general and sure CW might not be "neutral" speakers but as I said I like a bit extra punch in the music as I enjoy good dynamics and it still sounds 100% clean and accurate to me.

@FuSiionCraft

Жыл бұрын

@@johnpekkala6941 .... a good ol' focusrite scarlet and Audio Technica headset for a whopping 500$ in total will give you studio quality. Know why ? Because they are used in studios. For speakers, AT or a singer amplifier if you want volume, ~200$ You *don't* need all other shits.

I bet if you purchased the $800 power supply and mounted the unit on spikes and sprayed the disc with an audiophile degaussing fluid, you would have noticed a slight increase in depth of sibilance on Adel's 4th track on her debut album.

@travis1240

Жыл бұрын

You need speaker cables made from pure silver and installed in the correct direction in order to pick that up.

@gdp3rd

Жыл бұрын

@@travis1240 Silver tarnishes; you need rhodium-plated platinum wires.

@demef758

Жыл бұрын

When I incinerated Adel's debut album, miraculously all of my other CDs improved in quality in immeasurable ways...

@jobsjobbed5125

Жыл бұрын

Must’ve missed Adels first 3 releases. He’s Adele’s brother right?

@michaelthomas3646

Жыл бұрын

wonder what they will come up with next? a sulphuric acid de-greaser for discs?

I adore your choice of the Ultramagnetic MCs for the test.

@Tom2404

Жыл бұрын

It's just gonna be silent

@VinylBlair

Жыл бұрын

A really kool (Keith) idea…!

@robinsutcliffe-video_art

Жыл бұрын

such a great album.

@thegrimyeaper

Жыл бұрын

That's why there was no difference, it's still going to be magnetic unless he scratches out the band name.

@DeGuerre

Жыл бұрын

It's possible that Monster Magnet might be even more magnetic.

I used this to demagnetise Metallica's "Death Magnetic". The album sounded horrible when it came out, but now it's an absolute joy to listen to.

I have one of these and it definitely adds authority to the material and a bigger sweep across the entire bandwidth. In addition, the entire envelope of each note is presented as well as greater transparency. Bass notes are also much more nimble with reduced chuffiness. Finally, there is much less constraint and colouration of sound dynamics compared to non-demagnetized cds. 😂🙃😉😆🤣

@hagen-p

Жыл бұрын

Are you applying for a consulting role at Tidal? 😉

Once you've done shaving the outer edge, colouring it with a marker and demagnetizing, it's important to clean the dust from your CDs by using a steel brush in gentle circular motions. This will not only remove dust but also improve the overall sound quality thanks to the power sun spots.

@pfarnsworth84

Жыл бұрын

The concentric grooves should help keep the laser from slipping out of the track!

@combatking0

Жыл бұрын

@@pfarnsworth84 Oh, so that's how it works!

@CmputrBlu

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget to finish off with a nice coat of paint 😁

@lucassolomon1079

Жыл бұрын

This made me feel slightly physically sick.

@RilsR

Жыл бұрын

Afterwards be sure to install the red light filter onto your laser for even clearer red-free sound.

The "Ultramagnetic Mic's" CD, along with the 3 magnets left on it overnight, was probably the best choice ever.

@echoes89

Жыл бұрын

I’d say The Magnetic Fields could also have been a good band for this test

Your videos keep getting better and better. Well done mate!

Wow how time gone by fast i remember the first time i came on this channel it was when i watched the review on the G1W car cam review back in 2013 and now the channel has got even stronger in 2022 and has over 1.2 million subscribers, my hat is off to you and your channel.

This is the epitome of industry laughing at audiophiles

@e8root

Жыл бұрын

Audiophiles come cut from different cloth. Some hear difference in completely BS products, some think they can hear things which do affect measurements and some will honestly say they cannot tell the difference or at least clearly. These last are as much minority as first group really but they cannot generate revenue and first group can. Then you have lots of valid products and few audio-voodoo BS products and these last products skew perception of people that audiophile == idiot. Imho worth keeping this in mind.

How did you not notice! The musicians stopped playing off-key. The singer began to hit the notes! Everything has changed! The disc sounded softer, lampier, crystal clear. Thanks for the review! Good mood and good weather!

@Fluteboy

Жыл бұрын

_Good mood and good weather_ - That is such a wonderful greeting!

@demef758

Жыл бұрын

My dog's mood brightened as well after the disk demagnetizer treatment! But honestly, Rover did not enjoy being crammed into the demagnitizer either.

I have to say that Willow S. absolutely nailed it when describing "audiophiles". I feel for them at times when I try to imagine going through life in a world over-populated with predator/scamers and con-artists and at the same time being so ill-equipped to recognize let alone deal with these ubiquitous threats.

@AsmodeusMictian

Жыл бұрын

That problem can be fixed by these 11,000% premium priced gold and unobtainum plated audio cables, friend. Don't spread this around, but I can get you a pair of these cables for the almost criminally low price of $15k each, but BE QUIET ABOUT IT. At that price I'll have people beating down my door trying to get me to sell them some!!

@AwesometownUSA

Жыл бұрын

YES! I’ve noticed SOOO many (generally younger) people complaining about audio quality of various podcasts I listen to, which really sound fine and totally acceptable… I’ve been starting to wonder if maybe ~20 or so years ago the moms of the world just suddenly started giving birth exclusively to babies with pristine, solid gold ears haha. it’s like, settle down guys; no one cares how much you spend on headphones

This is as always a great video. Love the dismantling of audiophile crap. Most of all just makes me want to pull me hair out that this received good reviews by contemporary sources.

@DanHarkless_Halloween_YTPs_etc

Жыл бұрын

Makes me wonder whether payola was involved. I mean, surely folks reviewing stuff like this are aware of the need for blind A-B testing…

I would have to be most concerned by all the 'reputable?' audio publications giving the glowing ticks of approval. It's the 'Monster Cable' scam all over again! Good job again, Techmoan...

@Ciborium

Жыл бұрын

I remember when someone did a test between a Monster Cable and a wire coathanger and there was no discernable difference with analog audio.

@moosemaimer

Жыл бұрын

@@Ciborium Nothing irritates a person with preconceived notions more than a double-blind study. See: orchestra auditions, wine tasting, fast fashion, etc.

@davidlong1786

Жыл бұрын

They have always done so and always will when ad revenue is their main concern not truth.

@wbfaulk

Жыл бұрын

​@@moosemaimer What sort of double-blind studies are you proposing to test "fast fashion"?

@moosemaimer

Жыл бұрын

@@wbfaulk There was a discount shoe store that set up a "fake" boutique location where they put the same shoes up for sale at vastly inflated prices and people went crazy for them.

Oh, wow. When a product makes the CD shaver a semi-reasonable idea in comparison, you know you have something beautiful at hand.

@BriBCG

Жыл бұрын

At least the CD shaver made your discs double as throwing weapons.

@agevenisse3252

Жыл бұрын

The CD shaver will damage the disc and potentially expose the aluminium layer, causing oxidation over time. The CD demagnetizer is better, since it does absolutely nothing to the disc. ;)

@AkosJaccik

Жыл бұрын

@@agevenisse3252 Good, for more than 300 GBP I expect it to do _something,_ even if it's annihilation of data over literally just introducing reactive power into the grid.

I absolutely love the phase test you've pioneered as the ultimate in scientific audiophile debunking 🙌

@beardymcbeardface69

Жыл бұрын

Yes it's excellent. However it is an invert test and not a phase test. If this were a phase test where the A/B audio were 180 degrees out of phase, it could only work if the entire audio were a single constant sine wave. Anything more complex than a single sine wave and you'd have a situation where you'd have to choose which harmonic of the audio you want to place out of phase by 180 degrees. The rest of the audio could not be 180 degrees out of phase because it has a different period, so the test could not work. Simple inversion does the trick regardless of how complex the audio is. Phase change cannot because the audio does not consist of a single sine wave.

@uniqueflowsnake

Жыл бұрын

The praise is valid for using it but pioneering it is not. Nothing new here.

..some nice gold plated optical cables.. that comes along so smooth 😂

The RD-3 does seem to still be easily available brand new here in Japan. It's priced at 48,000 yen (330 USD or 297 GBP) and is currently at 4 stars on Amazon Japan with a bunch of reviews featuring audiophiles absolutely swearing that it makes their CDs sound so much better. I'm personally more amused by the negative ion bullshit, though.

@Weareonenation303

Жыл бұрын

Some audiophiles will believe any bullshit improves the quality of audio.

@gl_tonight

Жыл бұрын

If you send me your CDs I have a team of 11 thousand monks, 5 chess masters, and an ostrich who will pray for better sound and for only $10 per disc you can increase fidelity by oh... I don't know... at least 7%

@coriscotupi

Жыл бұрын

*"audiophiles absolutely swearing that it makes their CDs sound so much better"* That's why it was mentioned in another thread in the comments here that audiophiles are laughing stock for audio engineers.

@glyph241

Жыл бұрын

@@gl_tonight Sold. Where do I sign?

@hicknopunk

Жыл бұрын

@@gl_tonight the prayers of chess masters never fail

4:16 “With that $399 they could have got themselves some nice gold plated optical cables.” Made me laugh so hard 😂

@Mentski

Жыл бұрын

The 300 quid gold plated optical cable will always be my favourite piece of audiophile snake oil.

@NigelDraycott

Жыл бұрын

Does it help if you keep the gold plating polished

@FhangMedia

Жыл бұрын

That's like people buying HDMI cables with a gold connector instead of plastic thinking that it will improve something somehow even though it doesn't make contact with anything

@CptJistuce

Жыл бұрын

@@NigelDraycott Polishing it actually makes it worse. Removes all the microharmonics. May as well just use plastic at that pointd

@ZeusTheTornado

Жыл бұрын

@@FhangMedia It's true, but you know what? I'd still pick the gold plated HDMI because gold plated connectors are resistant to corrosion. A big deal in humid places like my town

"Gold-plated optical cables" Nice.

From the moment I saw this unit, I could tell it was made in Japan. I swear, every single Japanese consumer electronics company uses that same font, it's also used on the Micomsoft Framemeister!

My first thoughts on seeing the thumbnail. "This should be good. Today I am going to learn how to demagnetise plastic." I wasn't disappointed. Thanks Techmoan for finding these weird and wonderful gadgets. Looking forward to the series on how to save electricity with a gizmo in your powerpoint.

@EgonFreeman

Жыл бұрын

Sad thing is, that field has a host of devices all its own (look up MAGRAV). There's never a shortage of suckers.

I worked at a radio station in the early 2000s. By then, all of the music, commercials, etc was digital but we had one of these devices collecting dust in the corner of the studio. Apparently someone believed it worked. I wonder if they had ever used it.

@moonshine3333

Жыл бұрын

I could sell you a dust remover for £3,999.99. It’s a little bit scratched where it used to say Dyson😳

@Thermalions

Жыл бұрын

You just know the pointy-haired boss bought it.

@LatitudeSky

Жыл бұрын

Might have been sent over on spec by the company. If they could get even ONE DJ talking up this product, they'd probably quadruple sales. But it sounds like it didn't impress. They should have paid DJs to push it.

@jublywubly

Жыл бұрын

Evidently, the person who bought the machine didn't know how CDs work. lol

@musicandfilms9956

Жыл бұрын

@@Thermalions Dilbert!

I knew an audiophile that always brought his custom ac line cord with him. He told me it improved the highs and eliminated flutter on his records. I didn't hear any difference, but it made him happy.

@louistournas120

Жыл бұрын

Custom AC line code? You mean, just copper conductors?

@ktheis1

Жыл бұрын

@@louistournas120 yep. He'd go back and forth testing between different line cords. I think he read it somewhere and utterly convinced him that the line cords make a difference.

@David-ik8wj

Жыл бұрын

I bring my arrowhead collection with me when i listen to other peoples systems.

@ktheis1

Жыл бұрын

@@David-ik8wj stereophile magazine sends out an end-of-year supplement (read-advertising). I got mine after I first posted the comment. I saw ac line cords advertised from $300 to just over $3000. Audiophiles are nuts.

@bobm3919

Жыл бұрын

Please tell him that he will hear even better sound quality by rewiring his entire house.

You nailed it when you said that analog tweakers wanted something to do when digital technology came along and they resisted the notion that the black box was simply working. Next up "Shakti Hallograph" and "Shakti Air Stones". Unbelievable what kind of money people pay for snake-oil. Conspiracy theorists are warm and happy in their audiophool dens.

I am curious to know if that device did anything at all except than lighting up the LED. Maybe BigClive could reverse engineer the circuit?

@stupidfanboyph

Жыл бұрын

It looks like it can act like an induction cooker

@VincentvanLeijden

Жыл бұрын

I was actually looking for this comment, before posting it myself. TBH I was briefly disappointed when you already opened it up yourself. Still, I would love to see BigCliveDotCom reverse engineer this.

@llaeeZ

Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah. Big Clive should def have a look at this!

@skylined5534

Жыл бұрын

@@VincentvanLeijden Put it this way, the 'erase' light is certainly being powered by a capacitor which gets a momentare charge by a brief press of the button. I bet if Mat had held it down it would have stayed lit... showing it's super-demagnifying that there CD!

@tomclanys

Жыл бұрын

@@skylined5534 it's lighting up when it's discharged, it lights up on power up by itself.

I'm surprised there's no talisman to remove evil forces from CD's. Great video!

@sysghost

Жыл бұрын

I bet there is. You just have to look where shakra crystals spill into the audiophile world.

@SteveLBMK

Жыл бұрын

You need the bespoke CD cases from Lourdes.

@anderson9244MLG

Жыл бұрын

Lmao 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

@tommy5675

Жыл бұрын

My last CD player came with a Dream Catcher, that had the double protection of a hanging cats paw AND a white rabbits foot......The sounds were amazing, but only when orientated to lay lines that bisect Crop circles that are aligned with Orions Belt. That last part is vital :D

@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC

Жыл бұрын

@@sysghost I inherit a lot of junk electronics on the terms of "see if you can fix it; otherwise, throw it out". I have laptops and radios and phone chargers with quartz crystals taped to their cords -- taped with gooey cheap black electrical tape. A part of me wants to tell them that the crystal is why their shit broke.

Demagnetizers also exist for Vinyl LP's... ;-) And one day my car tire shop asked me about demagnetizing my wheels. According to them, it will help with improving drivers health and also radio interference. At least car wheels do have a lot of steel inside that could be magnetized. But demagnetizing seems to be snake oil to me...

@roylcraft

Жыл бұрын

Imagine how magnetized the engine is! With those aluminum pistons going back and forth. It must kill the MPG

@PlaywithJunk

Жыл бұрын

@@roylcraft Don't laugh... there are fuel saver magnets which can be mounted on fuel lines. They do some magic with the fuel so you get more MPG. They sell it next to mobile phone radiation protection devices.

I was a mechanic for more years then I care to admit and had a customer complaining that his new Chevy had the ignition timeing retarded too far. I knew this guys and I had him leave it on the way to work. I checked it and it was dead on factory timing marks. He comes back and I tell him yeah it was a little behind so I advanced the timing. Give it a try. Next day he drops it off again with a note that said it was too far advanced. Pulled it in the shop and ate my lunch. pulled it out and when he came to pick it up I told him I turned it back that that it had slipped when I tightened the hold down bolt. The third day I got it just right. NEVER touched the motor! Perfection is in the mind of the customer. Even if they are nuts!

I was one of those people who suggested ripping the CD and comparing checksums in the last video. Glad you explained why you don't want to do that, and your approach makes a lot more sense now. Thanks!

@romangiertych5198

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackDuke235 It isn't, there are even entire databases which rely on those to identify discs. Look up Exact Audio Copy, it produces such accurate rips and creates a log file containing checksums and other data for every track.

@GamesFromSpace

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackDuke235 If it went through an audio encoder, maybe (and even then, I'd expect a modern software based solution to be deterministic). If it's being dumped directly to bin, no, it will be perfectly identical assuming no errors.

@johanneswerner1140

Жыл бұрын

Yup, because audiophiles tell us that 'you cannot measure clarity and instrument separation' - if there is a difference you are able to measure it. Especially with digital signals.

@zoomosis

Жыл бұрын

@@romangiertych5198 Exactly. For Macs there's also X Lossless Decoder (XLD), which does a very similar thing. Great bit of software.

@romangiertych5198

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackDuke235 You were responding to someone suggesting ripping - that isn't a recording, and that would be identical. A recording wouldn't match without being trimmed identically of course.

5:40 - maybe the CD player has issues with reading your CDs because they've become heavily magnetized over the years.

@Thermalions

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he needs a CD Player demagnetiser to resolve the issue?

@fsmoura

Жыл бұрын

He'll have to build a specially isolated studio, demagnetized and deopticized to settle this issue.

@llaeeZ

Жыл бұрын

@@Thermalions They already exist... Not specifically for CD players but for audio electronics in general. Usually just a stone or something that is placed ontop of the unit... Yes, its as stupid as it sounds.

I ran into this product a few years ago at my local high-end audio store. Being an Electronics Technician who repairs cd players (among other audio equipment), I was more than a little dubious about a product that promised to 'demagnetize' aluminum and polycarbonate compact discs. The owner of the shop assured me it worked, despite my insistence that - even if such a thing were possible - a laser wouldn't be bothered by a bit of residual magnetization. Once again, the owner was adamant that he could easily hear the before and after. I finally agreed that yes, I BELIEVED HE COULD HEAR THE DIFFERENCE...just that there WAS no difference! Thanks for this review! 🙂

"All kind of optical discs" LEMME SEE A LASERDISC, HMMMM?

It's insane how much stuff like this exists and how expensive it is for doing nothing haha

@markfergerson2145

Жыл бұрын

The audiophool market exists because some people just will not make the effort to understand how things work and what changes are actually discernable. There's also the ego/elitist component to the phenomenon in that they believe they have superior hearing, so superior that mere technology cannot discern differences that they can.

@ricardlupus

Жыл бұрын

Well, it probably does something, after all someone did spend the time to wind a magnetic coil and build associated drive electronics...that's not saying that it does anything useful in its intended context of course.

@yodab.at1746

Жыл бұрын

@@ricardlupus they do that to fulfill the imagined necessity of the person buying it. If it was an empty box, it would be harder to CONvince someone it did anything. Unless maybe it was filled with esoteric air which, btw, is the next thing in infinite baffle speaker technology......

@tonyzed6831

Жыл бұрын

"A fool and his money..."

@favoritemustard3542

Жыл бұрын

**cough** snake🐍🛢oil **cough**

The reason the LED fades out like that is they are using a PTC thermistor for the coil (Edit: Or possibly a thyristor circuit since it was ready to go almost immediately again for the flip-side, but the function is essentially the same). The idea is that it slowly tapers the alternating field from the coil off to zero so there is no residual magnetism. It was a very simple and ingenious way to demagnetize old CRT monitors. At least they got that part of it right, but it was probably a copy of something else originally that was useful before it was bastardized into this.

@iNerdier

Жыл бұрын

Makes me wonder if this would be a cheap screwdriver demagnetiser

@Thermalions

Жыл бұрын

@@iNerdier Not based on the (lack of) effect on the cassette tape.

@romangiertych5198

Жыл бұрын

@@Thermalions Would probably do something to the tape if it was put directly on the coil rather than through the wood piece and the plastic box.

@nofider1

Жыл бұрын

@@Thermalions He neglected to rewind the cassette before playing.... ergo no erased audio. I would buy one tomorrow just to reduce the width of my wallet. By the way I'm still looking for an IR filter for my tube amp to help prevent wallpaper peeling............. :-)

@movax20h

Жыл бұрын

I do not think they use PTC for that. I see IC there, my bet is this is 555 timer.

I'm getting serious DVD rewinder vibes from this

I thought this came from 90's at very least but I'm shocked to learn that it's still in market. What's interesting was that they have patents registered not only in Japan but also in Taiwan and the United States! Even more surprising that the company has been in business for decades. (Well probably it should be the least surprising part..) And of course they've got gold plated digital cable and all that jazz.

God, I love you reviewing audiophile placebo accessories. Remember that story about people running audio through gold plated cables and then a wire clothes hanger and people couldn't tell the difference?

@robinsutcliffe-video_art

Жыл бұрын

He nails it with the wrap up at the end, SOME things make a difference to audio, UP TO A POINT! There are so many ways to define technical audio, watts, ohms, db, dbu, dbv, it's endless, the comparisons and specs given even by low end consumer audio are ridiculous' contrary and confusing. So it's easy to make shit up that appears plausible BUT YOU CAN"T HEAR IT. You can spend 1300e on a power chord (a kettle lead) so you have pristine AC. Can you hear it? No.

@jonathonshanecrawford1840

Жыл бұрын

I've done something like that, running audio through Golden wire ($10+/metre) and through optic fibre, no differentce at all or about 0.000% difference!

@JoQeZzZ

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathonshanecrawford1840 That sounds amazing! You could get a Nobel prize out of that I reckon, passing electrical signals over an optic fibre

@steviebboy69

Жыл бұрын

Didn't they have Monster Cables or some similar name and they were real thick speaker to amp interconnecting cables. All I had was cables that cost maybe $5 AUD a Metre but I got quite a lot of that for free when I purchased my Yamo' 707's years ago.

@KellyMurphy

Жыл бұрын

I've worked in IT forever and remember Best Buy had several brands of Toslink cables on the shelf. The guy tried to tell me that the gold plated $60 Monster cable would give me much better sound then the $10 one sitting next to it. I looked at him deadpanned and said, "its optical, ie light, and digital. The data either gets to the other end or it doesn't, if you are hearing music it will be the identical no matter what optical cable you use."

If, as the manufacturer states, the interior of a CD/DVD player has many components that can magnetize a CD/DVD, even if that demagnetizer worked, as soon as you slide it into a player, it would become magnetized again, besides all the paint trash they state in the first place. Totally absurd. Great videos by the way!.

@jamiemarchant

Жыл бұрын

Oh wait that's a valid point, so it would never work.

@EricLS

Жыл бұрын

“Uhhh it takes a while….to collect magnet…points…..because it’s weakly magnetic….so the instruments take a while to mix together on the CD”

@dingdong7440

Жыл бұрын

@@EricLS yeah, it also takes a while to collect the coin pot at the end of a rainbow.

I just stumbled across your channel and appreciate your efforts

I'd say, that there could be a possible better way to build one of those: Hand crafted, from driftwood, no power source, using only eldritch passive de-magicificationtion-ng. It would probably sell really well, if it could be used as a decoration.

“There’s a sucker born every minute and two to take him.” Thank you for sharing these rip of devices with us.

@erik365365365

Жыл бұрын

Even if these thing did do something, truly the cd standard’s error correction would make it a moot point, that was the wonder of a cd.

@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele

Жыл бұрын

@@erik365365365 Exactly. Let's just take a moment to celebrate the 40th anniversary of this wonder, that just happened last Saturday!

@Sembazuru

Жыл бұрын

Nah, P.T. Barnum was wrong. It's more like every second. (I can't take credit for this. I saw this nugget of wisdom in an old .sig random quote list. I have no idea the source.)

Thanks for the video Mat. It's almost as much fun as the DVD rewinder!

@LillyP-xs5qe

Жыл бұрын

Oh fudge, that thing was real, I was sure you were joking about a DVD rewinder

@kelvin1316

Жыл бұрын

It kinda reminds me of my mum when I started her on the Web, she was convinced that before you could close the browser you had to hit the back button until you got to the "start" page. Took me ages to convince that you can just close the software. I could see where she was thinking for doing it and I love my mum ♥

I magnetize my CD's because it makes them sound more like vinyl. I sell a special device for this for only $100 plus shipping and handling. Plus my device can magnetize even a few molecules of aluminum and any other substance. Great for parties.

Excellent choice of CD! Love that album.

I used to consider myself an audiophile, until I started reading on the internet all the crazy great lengths they will go to achieve the best sound. I no longer consider myself an audiophile. I'm just an audio enthusiast.

@davidshepherd265

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, same. I like my music to sound good, but at 37 after several rounds of ear surgery, my ears aren't what they were in my teens or early - mid 20's, and even if they were perfect, I realise there's simply a limit as to how good you can improve things until you reach a point where there's zero noticeable improvement. Not to mention snake oil like these devices and interconnects that cost as much as a new car.

@jort93z

Жыл бұрын

audiophiles buy a bunch of placebo stuff and pretend to hear a difference, lmao.

@wtmayhew

Жыл бұрын

The difference: audio enthusiasts listen to the music while audiophiles listen to the flaws.

@cbsboyer

Жыл бұрын

Same here. In my younger years, I worked retail in an electronics store and sold all kinds of Monster Cable to AV fanatics (including gold plated optical cables), but I certainly never had any trouble with store brand speaker cable and inexpensive patch cables.

@rsnowdowne

Жыл бұрын

@@wtmayhew That's not even strictly true. Audio enthusiasts listen to the music and try to make it sound as good as possible. Audiophiles spend heaps of money on stuff that can't possibly do anything, and then imagine that they hear the flaws (which weren't there in the first place) being eliminated.

Your talent is talking about things longer than what they're worth talking about. It's almost more about listening to you talk than hearing the information you're sharing. Everything from your tone to your intro and outro music is chill af. You're a pleasantly unique channel and I hope it never changes. Great work.

Excellent choice of album - funny pun plus a totally classic hip-hop album! Superb channel, thanks for the videos. I would love love love to see a Techmoan video on a vintage Japanese Nissan Ellgrand people carrier and the technology contained within. I went to look at one once which I would guess was from the early 2000s and it was super cool. The menu systems etc were all still in Japanese and it had various Japanese audio voice announcements, remote control sliding doors etc - along with in-seat DVD players and some kind of mad pre-GPS type system with maps stored on a DVD and sensors on the wheels to measure distance and direction. It would have been quite a high tech luxury vehicle at the time of production I think. There seems to be quite a few imports from around the same time I think there must be some kind of tax break on importing them or something.

Audiophiles are very strange people. They could buy any wild useless thing. Don't know how British say but in Russian it sounds like "Virgin snot electrolyte"

My parents were members of a big band. Mom keyboard, dad trombone. You’d think people who make music for a career would be excellent judges of reproduced music, which of course they are. Their hi-fi was composed of middle of the road Radio Shack components, which would probably turn self-proclaimed audiophiles ten shades of green. The deal was they were more interested in the music itself than any flaws in the reproduction which they casually disregarded.

@mutosanrc1933

Жыл бұрын

Just because they where members of a big band does not mean they are real audiophiles. They just learned to play music but when it comes to judging music a real audiophile can distinguish things others cant hear. And yes your right there are to many self-proclaimed ones. But never the less, if you love music you dont listen on cheap stuff. Its not necessary to buy expensive high end but the right things for music is important.

@amimartian

Жыл бұрын

Do you know a saying that 'a cobbler has the worst shoes around'?'

@wtmayhew

Жыл бұрын

@@mutosanrc1933 I guess there are hobbies for everyone. A lot of the snooty audiophile stuff seems to be about nit picking and coincidentally usually spending a lot of money. It is kind of like flying a private charter to Paris to see the Mona Lisa and looking at the paint with a magnifying glass, but not bothering to actually look at the picture as a whole. My point is that even cheap equipment may be just fine for an enjoyable experience when one listens beyond focusing on insufficiencies.

@wtmayhew

Жыл бұрын

@@amimartian Good analogy.

@JawshMcCullaugh

Жыл бұрын

Man, how can they hear the difference in the music? They're too busy going deaf playing in a big band.

Between 1987-1991 i was a DJ at a decrepit college radio station. The on-air studio had not been updated since the 70's and the production studio looked like the set of a 1950's sci-fi movie! One of the most terrifying devices in that audio torture room was this 10 kilogram degausser that made a BRRAAPPP! sound like an electric chair. 😳 It would fully erase a stack of 4-5 commercial cartridges in a second! If I die of cancer...

@stefanfrankel8157

Жыл бұрын

I had a degausser I used on my TV screen on occasion. I really don't remember it doing much at all other than distorting the picture while it was operating.

@dedogster

Жыл бұрын

Back in the 80s my dad who worked for a olace, that had a machine like that , he said they would get the co-op students to run it, just to give them a bit of a scare!

@toyfreaks

Жыл бұрын

@@stefanfrankel8157 Anybody remember when CRT computer monitors had a degauss function? You could brraappp the screen from the control panel.

@JohnEpi

Жыл бұрын

hahaha!! great story !!

@nthgth

Жыл бұрын

Lol magnetism is not ionizing radiation, I don't think it'll have given you cancer

I am more amazed that the production of this occult object is quite honest, which was not cheap: construction work. Design modeling. Production of mold for plastic spray. Copper spiral and simple electronics. Mostly occult items are made from waste, or from devices that failed and are not sales and are full of warehouses. Today it is possible to buy a home device to detect bad and good energy (poor energy is from atomic power plants. Good energy is made of solar and wind power plants). The whole device was in a soap box. :) It is possible that the "CD demagnetizer" could originally be the intention to produce a small CD player. Otherwise, I cannot explain why a lot of work has been put into this subject. :)

Audiophools never cease to amaze me!

Wow! The company certainly saw the audiophiles coming with this device!

@alancrane4693

Жыл бұрын

Yep and for the amount of money for that rather put it towards a piece of equipment.

@DJPhantomRage

Жыл бұрын

As do most companies.

It would be interesting to see ferrite dust patterns both from the magnetized cd as well as the demagnetizer.

Like others here, I'm amazed that there isn't just a lead weight inside to make it feel substantial. It would certainly work just as well... On to the hypothetical mode of operation... the only thing I can think of is that someone is conjecturing that the hypothetical magnetic field of the rotating CD would be inducing eddy currents in the wiring of the player on the analogue side and distorting the audio output.... If that's the case then indeed simply ripping the cd won't do anything, you need to test the complete end-to-end system with audio amps... Along those lines, the choice of playback device would be important as it's conceivable that a smaller unit, like a portable player, would have the analogue audio amplifiers located physically much closer to the spinning disk and therefore could be more affected by stray magnetic fields. But it's all bollocks of course, even if the disk were made from a large neodymium magnet I don't think it would make a measurable difference - let alone the fact that you simply cannot magnetise a CD, full stop.

Man, I was really hoping for a puppet skit at the end of this one. Would have been hilarious for sure

Another thing to check out (if you haven't already) is the gold CDs that were sold in the mid 90s. Instead of aluminum, they used 18k gold (supposedly) as the reflective layer within the disc. I had a copy of Pink Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon that was gold. IIRC, it was around $45-$50 back then. EDIT: I remembered incorrectly. They were advertised as using 24k gold, not 18k.

@pfarnsworth84

Жыл бұрын

That actually makes some sense, though - as gold is a basically inert and non-reactive metal, it will never get cd/laser rot. It's not going to sound any different, of course, but it should last longer, 'archivally' speaking.

@danbance5799

Жыл бұрын

That's a different case altogether - there are 2 legitimate reasons to use gold as the reflective layer in the disc. Aluminum is very prone to oxidation and oxygen can very slowly migrate through the protective layers of the disc to reach the aluminum. Over time, this will damage the aluminum and after a period of time - say, 50 years? - the disc might be unreadable even if it is in otherwise pristine condition. Gold is used in archival grade discs that are intended to be readable hundreds of years in the future. The second reason, of course, is the bling factor. It looks awesome and you can brag to all your friends that your gold CD of Dark Side of the Moon will be playable by your great-great-great grandchildren. I've been re-ripping my old CDs. When I first ripped them, hard drive space was very limited and I encoded them at very low bitrates. Now that disk space is no longer an issue, it makes sense to rip them again. This has been a very slow process because my drive is reporting all kinds of read errors and that simply wasn't the case 20 years ago, and in some cases this affects the output file. Most of my discs are around 25-30 years old - I bought them in high school and college, many of them second hand. They certainly have their share of scratches and surface defects as well. So this would be a really great experiment to run - my copy of Dark Side of the Moon vs yours - how many read errors does that generate? And would that be helped if I used a disc polisher on the disc? It may also be that modern Blu-Ray/DVD drives just aren't well suited to reading CDs. That's another possibility and I don't have any information on if that is the case.

@AlainHubert

Жыл бұрын

There is a slight advantage of gold over aluminum for CDs. Gold doesn't oxidize or rot as aluminum can if the polycarbonate layers aren't sealed properly on a CD over time. As far as gold CDs sounding better? Definitely not if they're both made using the same audio source.

@MrNside

Жыл бұрын

@@AlainHubert Yeah, the durability argument makes sense, but their marketing was focused on supposed better sound quality and supposed ability to reach frequencies unattainable by normal CDs. All hogwash, of course.

@holidaywednesday4069

Жыл бұрын

24 karat gold, according to the label-- I have a gold copy of Master of Puppets.

I literally spit out my lunch laughing at 4:37 when you showed what CD you picked to test. Too funny!

Best invention since the DVD rewinder.

Good point about the checksums.

The device really works. I have achieved great improvement but just on selected CDs: _Les Chants Non Magnétiques_ by Jean-Michel Jarre and Metallica´s _Death Demagnetized_ to name a few.

@GeoffreyFeldmanMA

Жыл бұрын

A proclamation to strangers without any kind of effort to measure the "improvement" or even describe it in objective terms. After watching the video what precisely do you "think" the "improvement" is in measurable terms? Why do people think unexplained, inexplicable opinions are worth sharing? HINT: They aren't. It's freakishly stupid.

@techmoney5829

Жыл бұрын

@@GeoffreyFeldmanMA I think his comment has gone over your head 😂

@ME-ik4ys

Жыл бұрын

Maybe irony is magnetic? 😉

@jochenstacker7448

Жыл бұрын

@@GeoffreyFeldmanMA read the comment again. 😜

@nameless-user

Жыл бұрын

@@GeoffreyFeldmanMA Indeed, a sucker IS born every minute.

Hi, Mat! Loving these "debunking audiophile nonsense" videos, keep 'em coming! A way you COULD improve CD performance back in the day was to get a better D/A converter after a few years. The ones in early players weren't particularly good. The same goes for vinyl and RIAA amplifiers. Next to a new pickup or stylus, the biggest improvement you can make to your playback chain is a new one of those.

@8bitwiz_

Жыл бұрын

But that's improving the player, not the CD.

@emilholmgrenmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@8bitwiz_ It's improving the playback quality, which is the aim for any upgrade.

@magicscreengames4353

Жыл бұрын

You CAN improve a CD if you remove the dust from it. I had a very dusty CD and it had a very interesting sound.

@avsystem3142

Жыл бұрын

@@magicscreengames4353 No, the player either correctly reads the bits, with error correction, or it doesn't. A little dust, which is ubiquitous, isn't going to have any effect at all.

@straightpipediesel

Жыл бұрын

@@avsystem3142 No, the error correction on CD audio is fairly weak because people are tolerant to glitches in the audio. CD players use error concealment, usually by replaying the last segment of correctly decoded audio. Another problem is tracking, CDDA has no way of identifying information to less than around 100 ms, so dust or scratch can cause track skipping, like a record. That's why when CD-ROM was added, they used an additional 12% of the bits to ECC, and labeled all the sectors.

I love the Dynamite portable 8-track tape players on the shelf behind you. Those things were so cool.

I can remember reading stories in the early 90s about storing your CDs in the freezer as the colder temperature will somehow help the lasers retrieval of information. I never tried it, but there seem to have been a bit of a history of trying to malign CDs as somekind of "Impure" media

@lasskinn474

Жыл бұрын

🤔 how the hecks that supposed to work. extreme temperatures can damage cd's though

@talibong9518

Жыл бұрын

This one is actually true, I used to freeze my scratched PS1 games to make them be able to load again.

@thesteelrodent1796

Жыл бұрын

putting a CD in the freezer will make the binding layer brittle (of course depending on how cold a freezer we're talking here) and you risk the reflective layer peeling off, besides the disc most likely will condensate when you put it in a cd player. If anything it will make the disc sound much worse and possibly even make it unplayable

@MEGAMIGA

Жыл бұрын

It was probably by the same people who believe that "Vinyl sounds better than CDs AnD iT's A fAcT!!!!!!"

@e8root

Жыл бұрын

Hmmm, maybe going freezing cold is the way to remove that darn jitter. You know, the jitter that even your PC will pick up and store in analog substrate on which data is recorded and which you cannot really get rid off once it is there because it will affect how jitterly data is recorded and will make electronics in your computers jittery. Like you could rip jittery CD to one file and clean CD on the other and copy the files from PC to PC, even over internet and store it on various digital device types (like RAM, hard disk, punch tapes (probably the best to study jitter!!!!!!!!!!), flash, cd-r, etc) along the way and file from jittery CD will have more jitter than from non-jittery CD even if bits are identical. You know, this is serious issue... gotta go clean my head now from audio-voodoo magnetism to resolve it ;)