Because I only said it once in the video, I feel I should say it again. No, Wizards is't immediately super trustworthy again, however, it is my belief that they aren't gonna go back on anything they said here and here alone. If I'm right, amazing. If I'm wrong, boohoo I get to make more KZread videos. 📈📈📈

@atomictrice4063

Жыл бұрын

Let's hope this is a win, but we need to be alert

@johnnyguillotine1673

Жыл бұрын

Digital will be under monetization.

@luckybones8749

Жыл бұрын

I'm a whale. I'm angry about the collector boosters I've been buying it's a scam. I was already almost done. I'm sick of them rubbing my gambling addiction in my face lol then raising the price and acting like it's fair. I am getting mad at players that defend them at all. Its annoying. The good wotc people can go work for the new owners. I ain't spending shiiiiiiit

@NoxilNobody

Жыл бұрын

I feel like they might try from a different angle

@RobertWilliams-wg6uq

Жыл бұрын

Do you REALLY think this is over? They will just try to be quieter about bending creators over a barrel next time. Now they know which of you to run out or silence or both.

What I love about this is that it comes right after Paizo said "Guys we're sold out, we can't keep up with you buying."

@alphahunterd

Жыл бұрын

it's so funny. they legit ran out of their 8 month supply...it's supposed to last them 8 months and they ran out! XD

@ramgladore

Жыл бұрын

I got the PF core rule book and beginner box. I don't think I can convince my group to switch to a different system but I think running a pathfinder adventure as a 5E game shouldn't be too hard.

@Mediados

Жыл бұрын

@@ramgladore That's what I've been doing for years. Not exactly with Pathfinder, but it's not hard to use the ideas and stories from other systems and translate them to D&D. At this point I hardly look into the MM anymore, just for the basic stats that I start building a creature from. I don't even own the 3 Core books from D&D.

@bunnylovingbastard

Жыл бұрын

@@alphahunterd if I recall correctly they've also stopped the preorders to catch up 🤣 WotC must've sh#t bricks

@SteelPhoenix78

Жыл бұрын

@@ramgladore I’d like to do that at some point, or maybe do the opposite - Have a game in a traditional D&D setting like Forgotten Realms or Dragonlance, but using Pathfinder’s rules system.

"They picked a fight with a community that gets together every single week to beat up bad guys of world-ending proportions" might be my favorite sound byte to come out of this whole thing! I wasn't ever going to give up on DnD entirely; I was still planning to continue playing with the books I already bought, using more third-party books. But this has left me more curious than ever to try out other systems. I'm not going to entirely trust WotC going forward, but I do hope that they've realized that the best way for them to make money is to work WITH their community instead of viewing the community as nothing more than a cash cow to milk.

@CritCrab

Жыл бұрын

If you want some recommendations from me, Monster of the Week, City of Mist, and Last Arc; Tactics Analogue are all amazing and unique TTRPGs that I've been loving lately

@KertaDrake

Жыл бұрын

They made the worst mistake ever. They angered the community known for its rules lawyers!

@djn6962

Жыл бұрын

@@CritCrab LAST ARC:TACTICS ANALOGUE!? TELL ME MORE!

@OcelotOmega

Жыл бұрын

@@CritCrab As a huge Final Fantasy nerd, I've been wanting to get into Last Arc since I first saw the first time they sponsored you, I just haven't had the extra funds to get the actual PDFs to thumb through and maybe talk a couple friends into giving it a shot, ha ha

@ItsCreaidan

Жыл бұрын

@@CritCrab and Pathfinder 2e.

I'm gonna repeat what I said on DnDShort's video: When you turn around and catch someone trying to stab you in the back with a knife, even if they sheathe it quickly and try to shower you with apology gifts, any sane person is always gonna keep an eye out for the glint of that knife from that day onwards.

@Nightenstaff

Жыл бұрын

I think the difference here is they didn't just sheathe the knife -- they gift wrapped it and gave it to us. Has Hasbro changed? Oh gawd no. But they've showed that they fear us and that just might be better.

@thegreattotemaster

Жыл бұрын

@@Nightenstaff They could always just get a new knife...

@notoriousgoblin83

Жыл бұрын

@@thegreattotemaster We've got a fucking axe at least.

@chrism4008

Жыл бұрын

I dont think ive seen it put any better than that

@ChurchAtNight

Жыл бұрын

Hmm, from Monte Cook on Jan 14: Say person A pointed a gun at person B and pulled the trigger, but the gun jammed. Person A then gave a half-hearted apology. Should person B accept the apology? Should they trust person A ever again? What if person A starts visibly trying to clear the jam but assures person B that it's all fine? Asking for a friend.

Not to be a debbie downer, but We gotta keep an eye out for their next move. Wotc won't stop here, they're just going to find another line of attack. They want to kill vtt competition and will try to find a way.

@drakonik2782

Жыл бұрын

They explicitly did not mention licensing for One D&D. They could still try to lock out other VTTs or pull new shenanigans with the licensing for it, forcing users to choose between 5e and One D&D.

@luckybones8749

Жыл бұрын

I just decided to stop giving evil people money if they sell the IP great. If they don't great I'll save about 3k a month

@Crashloop

Жыл бұрын

@@drakonik2782 OneD&D will for sure be under a new license and srd. And that is really not an issue, if wotc want to keep OneD&D into their own system with no competition let them. Let's see how successful that will turn out to be...

@Shatteredworld

Жыл бұрын

This isn't being a Debbie Donwer, it's being realistic. Take this W, take the win, and celebrate...however while the battle is won, the war is never ending. There will be another delusional executive who will try this again in the future, that is certain.

@Lakthul

Жыл бұрын

Honestly yeah. We seriously need to keep an eye out for anything they might try to pull.

This is the epitome of *don't fix what isn't broken*

We won the Battle of Minas Tirith but Sauron's tower still stands in Mordor. We should remain vigilant in case they try to do something sneaky while everyone is celebrating the victory. I'm happy, but I think skepticism is still warranted.

@ShursGarden

Жыл бұрын

*calls from the hilltop* NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD

@DHTheAlaskan

Жыл бұрын

@@ShursGarden *Calls back* NOORRRRRMMMIEEEEE!!!! RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE!

@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666

Жыл бұрын

@@ShursGarden *Calls from right wing rural area* NI-

@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666

Жыл бұрын

Ew, A Tolkien fan! Burn it! Purge it!

The best part of exploring new systems is that you can steal the stuff you like and take it back to whatever your main game happens to be.

@CritCrab

Жыл бұрын

As somebody who stole from 4e, 5e, and GURPs when designing my home brew system, you are absolutely correct.

@amesnfire1098

Жыл бұрын

Why not take what you loved with D&D and use the new system?

@amesnfire1098

Жыл бұрын

@DBSTKjS dnd's d20 system isn't unique or the only one with "bounded accuracy". Off the top of my head, WFRP has a similar but more in-depth system for successes and failures regardless of stats. I wholeheartedly encourage you to explore more systems, as there's likely one that does what you and your group wants better than what dnd can provide.

@notoriousgoblin83

Жыл бұрын

@DBSTKjS Pathfinder has a really interesting spin where everything like moving, attacking and spells are all out of 3 actions. 2 actions for spells, and attacks gain disadvantage if done twice in a turn.

@phoenix402

Жыл бұрын

@@CritCrab stealing? i prefer the term "tactically borrowing content" :3

Seriously, as a magic player I am so proud of the DND community right now. Also as a magic player, no: never trust WOTC again. We all know we’re walking meat bags standing between them and our wallets full of their money now. TTRPG players hold more power than Magic players, so, never let ‘em forget it. Natural twenties to all of you!

@Orrphoiz

Жыл бұрын

As another Magic player, I wholeheartedly agree.

@RiseInAfterlife

Жыл бұрын

"Nu-uuuUuUh! Its all bad, evil Hasbro not poor little friend WotC, no WotC didndu nuthin'. Now buy the next 7 Secret Lairs that dropped this week!" Sadly the MtG community is dumb as a brick (on average) and I've seen so many revert back to their WotC worship after this just as fats as they did after the M30 incident.

@hugofontes5708

Жыл бұрын

Make it three. Never trust WotC - they might not try and implode their game again but they *will* use *any* tactics and products to drain money out of players. If you want insight on how they go for MTG players on the regular, check out Tolarian Community College here in KZread. I repeat: do not trust the wizards.

@gearsfan6669

Жыл бұрын

as another magic player, pretty much now if only we could get rid of the 2 people (I use that word very loosely as companies shouldn't be considered people period and it takes a special lack of empathy to get to the point where you are the head of a multi-billion dollar company) that destroyed our game as well which in turn would actually be better for both companies to have someone who understands the brands they sell, from my understanding didn't Cynthia have to literally look up what Magic was during that "fireside chat" because she has 0 knowledge of what brands the company she runs owns

@SupremeJank

Жыл бұрын

Also a magic player. This is far from over, they're backing down from this but they still think DnD is undermonetized. The execs need to leave before there's actual breathing room. Or just move on. BTW Pokemon is kinda fun and they're back to events.

Celebrate this item, but be vigilant. The SRD 5.1 only applies to 5e (3e is still a risk). They only stopped their push, not give up nor state they had no power to deauth. I fully expect them to try again in the future.

Trust once broken isn't that easily re-gained. It's a good decision, I give WOTC that. But there is a lot of work ahead for them to really be worthy of our trust ever again. Also, let's keep in mind that Hasbro's directive to increase D&D monetisation is still active. As such, we should expect them to try getting that money in other ways. Sure, SRD remains free but rapidly raising prices of everything else may be the eventual side effect. As far as I'm concerned, all we're having at the moment is a long rest. The end of this campaign is still far from nigh.

Thanks King CritCrab for being our clear headed guide through this trial of real life bbeg. You aproached this topic calmly and with clear understanding. Where others came at this with fire and brimstone rage. You took the wiser path and aided us with the knowlege we needed to understand what we were facing, and how to properly deal with it. Thank you for being the hero we needed to help get us through this dark era of TTRPG.

@CritCrab

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 🦀🥹

@ZedMazaus480

Жыл бұрын

@@CritCrab Your bery welcome, and aren't we the ones supposed to be the ones thanking you? Lol Now wipe those tears away and celebrate with cake and by playing a truely fun/cringe worthy video game with crow. He knows which one I'm talking about. He did a live play not to long ago of it. Its right up your alley. -wink-

All Hail The Crab King But those Wizards are up to something

@pheonixgaming7800

Жыл бұрын

I agree. It's possible that they will revoke their agreements with sites like roll20 in favor for their own vtt site.

You should all be so proud. I've been so jaded by watching every single video game company fall from grace, every time being able to get away with ridiculous stuff without any lasting consequence. I'd forgotten something like this was even possible. It makes me sad that all my favorite video game franchises have been warped, but I'm so happy for you guys. For once my worldview is being pushed back in a positive direction; that hasn't happened for a long time :'3

@PlayerZeroStart

Жыл бұрын

I legitimately lost all hope victory could ever be obtained over a company after the whole Blizzard situation. Hopefully this will be just the first in a long line of holding companies accountable

@charlesn.2881

Жыл бұрын

WotC wants to become a video game company, so stay tuned for their next crime.

@Pacca64

Жыл бұрын

@@charlesn.2881 Yeah, that was probably the scariest part of their whole plan. I don't really see the point of it for DnD, since it seems like that'd render homebrew impossible. Hopefully their plan flops, but I'm not expecting anything good to come from it.

@MarquisLeary34

Жыл бұрын

This fight isn't over. We forced them to fall back and regroup, but that's it.

@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8

Жыл бұрын

@@Pacca64 That seems like the point. They want homebrew to be nearly impossible or at least have the ability to just snatch up whatever good ideas the community develops since they have I think talked about viewing things like it as competition.

I would urge a certain amount of caution. I would fully expect them to say “screw 5e backwards compatibility” with OneD&D, make changes to the core rules as to prevent easy transition from one to the other and then release OneD&D under a totally new license similar to what they tried with 4e. Wizards may have cut their losses with 5e, but the status of third party content for future versions of D&D is still very much uncertain.

@growingsage

Жыл бұрын

I agree. They may have decided to completely scrap the backwards compatibility and just go on and say One/6e is fully separate from 5e now. Or make a 5.2 SRDfor 6e.but honestly, unless it wows people (which I doubt it will looking at the unearthed Arcana) most players will stick with 5e, and we'll have a repeat of 4e

@gmann215

Жыл бұрын

@@growingsage I have a feeling they won't be brave enough to try that for a little while, at least. Once the community has forgotten in a few years.

@richardhealy

Жыл бұрын

@@growingsage "History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme." ~ Mark Twain.

Eldritch Blast and Item Attumement are old news. They were added in 5.1 SRD long ago. Originally when WotC released SRD for 5e, they released version 5.0 without some core features (like item attunement), and later added them. It's unrelated to OGL scandal, OGL 5.1 happened a few years ago

From my perspective, this is more of a pyrrhic victory than anything else. We now have the SRD out in the Creative Commons, but we also know exactly what WotC are prepared to do. At this stage, we absolutely should keep an eye out on WotC to see what they do next. They wrecked the trust that the community had in them, and that trust may be impossible to rebuild for good reasons.

@thomasfplm

Жыл бұрын

The winer in a war is the one that looses less.

@ShursGarden

Жыл бұрын

Very much not a Pyrrhic Victory. A Pyrrhic Victory would mean that our win came at a cost so great that the fight wasn't even worth it, that we would have been better off rolling over and accepting it.

@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666

Жыл бұрын

It’s a net loss for everyone else. DnD still existing is just awful. Truly the worst timeline.

This is a win for me at least, because 5e is safe and I learnt 2 new systems because of this. If you like ONED&D, you need to keep fighting, or you're going to lose.

@flamingrubys11

Жыл бұрын

lol 6e is gonna be a piece of woke garbage

@hamstsorkxxor

Жыл бұрын

@@flamingrubys11 As if D&D hasn't always been progressive and conscious of social issues. For example, DnD has had a transsexual god and the option of gender fluid elves since the '70s.

@APerson-ws4cw

Жыл бұрын

@@hamstsorkxxor Things certainly got worse recently IMO. It's not my issue since I won't be playing it, but there's been an influx of certain people making things worse.

@hamstsorkxxor

Жыл бұрын

@@APerson-ws4cw Oh, woe is you, who doesn't even play the game, but have to tolerate that other people do. Like seriously, this has to be peak gatekeeping, you are trying to keep people you disagree with out of a hobby you do not even participate in?! Also, "influx of certain people"? Please, do spell it out, who exactly is joining that's making DnD worse? And how and why are they making it worse?

@flamingrubys11

Жыл бұрын

@@hamstsorkxxor im fine with that its just more on the side of them trying to suck the general life outta th]ngs "oh racism in dnd n< longer exists"

Beware of the snakes in the grass

It is only a matter of time until they try again, they are as patient as they are insidious and greedy. It is wonderful that the community beat WOTC into whimpering submission but eternal vigilance is required because those snakes will strike the moment they sense that they have the upper hand.

Love you Crit! I'm happy it turned out this way for now.

Can I just say how *SHOCKED* I am that Hasbro/WoTC fully surrendered? This level of victory feels like finding a Unicorn. Also *THANK YOU* for pointing the unfortunate obvious fact that because of the way our economy is set up, any publicly-traded company (ie, has shareholders that can buy in) with any level of brand power is *always* going to get greedy. They are, in fact, legally obligated to, so that they can deliver maximum profit to the shareholders. The one thing about this whole debacle that was good for me is that it reminded me that Savage Worlds exists. I'm actually running a One Shot for some friends in the near future so I can really learn the system, and hopefully start up a monthly/twice-monthly campaign someday.

@growingsage

Жыл бұрын

I got a Savage worlds Oz adventure sitting around somewhere. I may try to run it once I reread the rules.

@feli9547

Жыл бұрын

Just remember: unicorns aren’t always nice. And they can usually count to one.

@benjaminbierley2074

Жыл бұрын

The upside is at least on the surface it's delivered a harsh reminder to them that while they can be greedy...making it this obvious, and blatant, and harmful to the community is not beneficial to them and has done lasting damage. A LOT of companies nowadays seem to be ignoring this fact and going straight for naked greedy moves at the cost of goodwill thinking that long term they will not suffer for it...they need to get these slaps in the face to wake them up.

@SendarSlayer

Жыл бұрын

@@benjaminbierley2074 This. They were shown that being That type of greedy is bad for the wallet. Which means they are legally obligated to NOT be that greedy.

I won, because I found Starfinder 😎

It's not over yet Crit. the boiling pot might have gone to a simmer but that doesn't mean Wizards can't turn on the oven behind the scenes. We need to keep tabs on them, with their finances washing out to sea they're bound to try something to recoup down the line. I am glad things have settled for now though

I've always loved playing new systems and trying new ttrpg things (one of my first games was a Mutants and Masterminds game and one of my favorite campaigns was in Little Fears) and just knowing how many TTRPG players are willing and able to try and start new systems and have new experiences is super exciting for me. I whole-heartedly am excited to see the diversification of the TTRPG scene from here on out!

My wife and I stopped by the gaming store to pick up her birthday present (a model car of Baby from Supernatural and some dice with roses in them bcuz I'm schmaltzy like that) and we noticed their sections for games like Pathfinder, Mutants and Masterminds, etc were absolutely bursting with product. According to the owner, they had to dust off a bunch of stock they've had for months to keep up with the sudden demand for anything other than D&D. It was incredible. So we picked up Pathfinder 2e: Book of the Dead. 😁

“Don’t rally behind one company or one game” I agree completely. I also feel like if you could swing it have one game and one system and another in another.

My favorite part was when the person in charge at Hasbro saw what WotC was doing an started processing ( Good luck with your future endeavors ) paperwork, lol.

This just means they have put their plans on hold - for the moment. They will return in some shape or form as soon as they see the chance to pull through.

@archbound6224

Жыл бұрын

They cannot with 5e the creative Commons license CANNOT be revoked

@FuFightersStudio

Жыл бұрын

@@archbound6224 Yes - they will just wait for 6e or 7e or something. I am very sceptical of this.

@archbound6224

Жыл бұрын

@@FuFightersStudio they are welcome to do so, it will mean whatever edition they try it will with me DOA like 4e

@MarquisLeary34

Жыл бұрын

They know they're still in the only game in town, we just shook them awake.

@RicardoSantos-oz3uj

Жыл бұрын

@@archbound6224 The same was said of the previous license yet they found a loophole.

4:57 "...and they found some new systems that they loved." "FATE discovered nearby!" heh

Thanks, buddy, your work on this is truly appreciated. I know this was outside your comfort zone, but it was important work and you did it. Take a bow, you've earned it! Thank you other channels, thank you DnDBeyond unsubscribers, most of all Thank You leakers! Without the brave souls who risked firing and lawsuits we would have never heard of this until it was too late. Well done!

All those alternate versions of DnD that have been home-brewed to fit different settings really makes me just want to gesture broadly at Savage Worlds. Thats the systems whole shtick, to be able to fit any setting.

@MarquisLeary34

Жыл бұрын

Gesture all you like. Again, did you not notice Edgerunner D&D. Edgerunners. A property BASED ON ANOTHER RPG.

@notoriousgoblin83

Жыл бұрын

@Simon Leary Oh the irony of slapping Cyberpunk bits into DND rather than playing Cyberpunk.

@CaptainMcAnnis

Жыл бұрын

@@MarquisLeary34 oh yeah I saw that, which is downright hilarious. But I can see people being intimidated by RED, especially netrunning

@MarquisLeary34

Жыл бұрын

@@CaptainMcAnnis Which is telling because it's a lot more streamlined than Netrunning was in CP2020.

I can agree with others here in the fact that: yes, we do need to still be wary of WotC cause community trust is at an all time low. I also agree that you really did come at this with a logical and relatively unbiased explanation of events as they unfolded, which was good to have when others could be giving into a lot of vitriol. It is lovely to see the community band together for themselves, and hopefully listening might be more of a norm for the corporate side, even if that may just be wishful thinking

Maybe I'm just really cynical, but I can't help but wonder, "Is there something else to this? How is this going to bite us in the ass and favor them?" I don't know enough about the whole thing and the processes around it to really know, so I'll go with the flow and say "This is good." But there's still that little thing in the back of my head going, "But is it really?"

Thank-you so much for making this series of videos! Also, on a smaller level, so happy that this was the next big piece of news you got to report on this after your last video on the subject!

I just randomly found your channel to figure out about this situation, and then just today decided to see if anything had changed. Congrats to the community on your collective victory!

After Paizo announced the ORC, which would have the same effect for Pathfinder content -- putting it all under an irrevocable CC license -- this was really the only way WotC _could_ respond. If their main competitor gained the favour of the entire community, D&D would've been finished. It almost definitely wouldn't have disappeared entirely, but I reckon Pathfinder would've become the more popular and profitable system by a long shot.

I love it that paizo sold 8 month of pathfinder stuff in 2 weeks

They finally got it through their CEO brains when their shareholders started reminding them that the customers are never wrong. Shame it took that much.

A game I recommend is "Don't Rest Your Head." It's more of a storytelling game than a roleplaying game (one difference being that when a player wins a roll, they narrate what happens next), but it's something I really enjoyed playing. It's a game for smaller groups, though, a GM and one to three players. It starts getting unwieldy once you at a fourth. It's a very different and more surreal experience than you'll find in most D&D (or related related games) campaigns.

The most horrifying horror story has a happy ending, surprisingly.

Something doesn't seem right

As someone who loves more narrative focused systems and pen and paper over tabletop, I like the side effect of my favourite systems getting a bit more noticed.

this has been by far the best response to corporate greed from any online community I have ever seen or heard of, it showed that the community appreciates the creators in it.

i believe they are sincere in that 5e and previous stuff released under 1.0a and anything in the future released under it will remain untouched and creators can freely use it. however i think it's likely they will try to make another agressive and restrictive license for the next edition, OneDnD. thankfully even if they do we now can clearly just keep using 5e and any new content that 3p creators come up with and their new product will not make nearly as much money as they hope it will make. furthermore, this is a huge win for the community regardless of what they plan to do even if they somehow try to mess with the OGL again, we've already proven that we are more than capable of just leaving for other systems, truly an amazing time to be a ttrpg fan.

I think I'm still going to buy the pathfinder books and choose if I want to do dnd or pathfinder...

"I'm going to be streaming." The sincerity of a man that thought he was just going to stream FF for a few hours. We had no idea what was in store for us. 🍔

As an old school TTRPG player it makes me so happy to see the community finally branch out away from D&D 5e and try some other systems. That is the way our community used to be, but the influx of new players from Crit Role and other podcasts, coupled with the overwhelming popularity of 5e made it extremely hard to find groups for anything other than 5e. But now people have started experimenting and trying new things, it is wonderful to get to introduce new players to other systems and I hope this keeps up for a good long while. 5e will always have a place in the community but they are no longer the be all and end all.

Nobody won, in my opinion. WotC not only couldn't push the changes they wanted, but they also suffered a major blow to customer satisfaction and fidelity. And as for the players, we lost quite a lot of content creators that have been soured with D&D and WotC because of the new OGL fiasco, meaning those players who remain with D&D see less homebrew content being published by third parties because they have moved on to other systems.

Im still looking into paizo, pathfinder looks like it could be a great system. I probably won't ever stop playing dnd 5e, but im preparing to jump ship. Im also gonna look towards other systems as well, im very interested in sci-fi and also lovecraftian content.

@johnnyguillotine1673

Жыл бұрын

Call of Cthulhu can be funny and weird

@alexandersergal

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnyguillotine1673 its something id like to play

@johnnyguillotine1673

Жыл бұрын

@@alexandersergal You should try it, just a lot of Deaths happen in that game so don't allow that to disrupt your play just look at it as funny. Not going to give you my horror story of a person trying to rules Lawyer his way through. Just go in expecting weird stuff and laugh, you'll be fine. Much peace with you always.

@lkriticos7619

Жыл бұрын

Traveller is a nice, flexible system for sci fi games. It's pretty easy to modify it to fit the kind of sci fi setting you want. It's also pretty easy to remove aspects of it you don't enjoy. Straight out of the box with no modifications it's a bit like Firefly. With a little forethought it can be made into Star Wars, Star Trek, Babylon 5 or a much more serious harder sci fi feel. (Edit: I think you could also run Gundam in it? Less sure on that though.) Combat is a lot more punishing then in D&D and the standard character creation system is life-path, which isn't for everyone. There are rules in the recent editions for creating characters in a way D&D players would find more familiar though. I highly recommend the starter pack. It's got basically all but 20 pages of the core rule book (I think those pages are optional equipment) and an adventure. Plus a nice star map and I think mine had some dice too? It's a nice pack. (I really need to get off my ass and run it for my groups.)

For the sake of my younger brother and his friends already excited, and me not having a solid homebrew and using the coast books for e5, while trying to teach them the paper way and give them the experience the best I can. I just hope wizards ease up and let me show these kids the world they play in, with their respective works, other creator's works, and my own to make something to talk about for years and inspire another generation.As always Mr. Crab, amazing content.

I am cautiously optimistic! Praying so hard WotC doesn’t take it back somehow. I love this community! You all are the best!

Considering they want to replace 5E next year with OneD&D the CEOs likely looked at all this backlash and said "is it really worth it?" After all, everything that has happened recently partades to 5E only. They could very easily turn around and try something like this in the future for OneD&D right out the gate when it comes out.

@arthour051

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But then they have a 4th edition issue on their hands. ie: Everyone played 3.5 instead because it was better and no one was interested in 4th, hence why 5th came out with the changes it did. At the end of the day, we dont need Wizards for this game.

@claude-alexandretrudeau1830

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The only thing OneDnD had going for it was the trust of the community. All they had to do was lure in the curious and let them convince their friends to follow the new hot stuff, regardless of quality. With minimal effort, 5e would become a thing of the past and everyone would gather more and more around the VTT to explore dungeons and slay dragons. Unfortunately for WotC, their greed ruined everything. They made the community less complacent and more willing to move from their comfort zone. I think it killed OneDnD right there. Unless WotC also becomes less complacent and more willing to move from their comfort zone, they'll never have any kind of success with OneDnD. They can't rely on brand recognition anymore. Now, they have to deliver actual creative quality. The new edition has to bring something new to the table, something attractive, creatively speaking. It has to, or else it will flop.

I was never a dnd guy, I have been playing HERO ststem since I was 12 and when I went to D&D I found it so limited. It can literally run all campaigns from Warriors and Wizards, sci fi, pulp, mil Sim, super heros. You name it, HERO system can pull it off. Down side is it is really complicated to start. Once you understand it gets easier, but that barrier to entry is rough so I understand if it is not for everyone

@darkwitnesslxx

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I too am a HERO player/GM. It's definitely underrated and needs a Renaissance.

I’m apprehensive, the cynical part of my brain says to keep an eye out, and that this is a way to maybe win people back a little so they may make some other weird move.

@psychickumquat

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I agree. This only came after the biggest shitstorm I've ever seen from a fan base, so Hasbro had no choice. But if it isn't this fiscal year, it'll be another. They've broken fan trust for at least many years, if not permanently.

I'm glad we got a small win. D&D is a cultural treasure and one that should be protected as we have so very few of those left untouched these days.

In a way this is the worst outcome. Other systems won't gain marketshare, the 5E monopoly over TTRPGs will continue, Wizards won't learn anything. It's good for small creators who work in 5E stuff at least.

@archbound6224

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Good

Enjoy and celebrate this win. However, just because Hasbro/WotC did a MAJOR CHUNK of damage control does not mean you shouldn't try new systems, stop supporting the ORC, or forgive Hasbro/WotC because they can just as easily do this again!! #OpenDnD #ORC #RaisetheBlackFlag

All hail the crab king. May his crits be huge, his kingdom friendly and welcoming. Thank you for your calm and clear explanation about this topic.

"It's open and irrevocable in a way that doesn't require you to take our word for it." Good. No one should take them at their word after what they tried to do, not for a long long while.

The OGL saga won't be over until WOTC is shuttered and D&D is in the hands of a more responsible company

@mrcroob8563

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Try not to knee yourself in the face with that jerk

@Sigilstone17

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@@mrcroob8563 Go worship WOTC somewhere else

Way to go D&D community. did we get any exp for the encounter?

Crab king has THE MOST adorable little laugh 😭

I'm am so proud of the TTRPG community for coming together. This whole thing has really been something to witness. And thank you so much for taking the time to keep us, the Crab Army and concerned wanderers, updated with all the chaos, losses, and victories!

I'll never get over how they tried to pull this on a community with a stereotype of person literally called a "Rules Lawyer".

@rovertkralc1

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Lmao

I am glad that we can finally make a peaceful resolution to all of this. WotC didn't have power over D&D... The community does. However after all of this WotC gave up. They finally realized that the game isn't meant to be monetized (unless you count the official books including Curse of Strahd) and they decided "We have gone too far. Maybe we should stop trying to monetize D&D and let the community do what they want.". Overall WotC regretted everything and we won. I am happy to share this news with my friends in the D&D Club. CritCrab thank you for sharing this. Thanks to people like you, D&D kept its dignity along with the community and the TTRPG genre as a whole.

@milesbaker8866

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Long live the Crab Empire

I want to say thank you Wizards removing me from your system. I can’t return to D&D 5e after experiencing other TTRPG’s. I knew of them but was too scared to jump ship until this drama.

My man is out here dropping the hardest science to the TTRPG community! I wish you luck, oh noble king of crabs and crits, in your journey to discover new worlds and new systems!

it certainly shows the amount of trust that has been broken and thrown away that, even with this great victory, people are still saying, "Where's the fish hook?"

Been a long time subscriber and I gotta say I'm super proud of you for leading a massive wave of resistance against WotC's nonsense. This has been a big win for the community and I'm glad to have been even a small part of it.

My group already had this idea of switching systems after each campaign. Currently the plan is after dnd I'll run avatar legends, then current dm will do cyberpunk red, then I run starfinder, they'll run vampire the masquerade, then I'll run call of cthulhu

I'm glad you see this situation for what it is. They never wanted this result and I'm glad that they were wrong. They will definitely try something similiar in the future and that's why we must stay vigilant!

"Did anybody 'win?'" Yes, we did! Undoubtedly!

I still can't believe this is how things ended for now. I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop, but for now, I'll accept this as a win.

That is one of the best apologies and backpedaling I've seen a company do. Yes they are in damage control. But they are smart enough to understand what they broke, and how to go about fixing it. I will give them an A on the response. They couldn't do it better.

8:38 have?...HAVE?... we literally Choose to play along, the DND community proved that we can fight back, WITHOUT THE FANS WITHOUT THE PEOPLE COMPANIES, AND EVEN GOVERNMENTS ARE NOTHING!

We gotta be vigilant. Now that these people know how we fight back, no doubt they'll try to sneak in something. If anything, we should keep our guard up. This is now a game of mutual attrition.

Thanks for covering this! You made it pretty easy to understand :) also, you're right... I've been playing Pathfinder more lately and it's pretty damn fun :)

Ive said for years that supporting, or at least trying, multiple systems is good for both the community and the individual. Been seeing people start to come around to that now, and I gotta say I love it.

"It was important we take this step now, so there's no question." No, it's important WotC take this step now to attempt to staunch the anger of the shareholders

I am so happy about this. This was probably the only way to save themselves from losing most of their community, and this might even make new creative people pick it up. I always love it when people are being creative with the game, and even buy sourcebooks from WOTC when they themselves are being creative to show them that is how they can earn more money from me. Being creative themselves, and not claim others creativity

Appreciate the video, we just need to keep our eye on things & not let our guard down.

When the license is in the Creative Commons and they can't try to do this again, then we win.

This is a big step for Wizards moving forward and getting back in touch with the community. It should never have come to this, and I can't ignore the layoffs, but I'm willing to chalk it up to 'a big complicated business'. Now what they need to do is keep in touch with the community and creators in order to get some good products out that people want to buy. But we should stick to the side of the lower employee, and acknowledge that these layoffs are likely a stop-gap for their market losses, and they need to find better ways to meet their bottom line. I hope that all those people can move on to brighter and better futures.

The idea of a Scorbunny beating Arceus to death with a lightsaber sounds amazing.

I love that you’re just fishing in XIV for the footage. It’s very relaxing

"Delusional" is the best word to use to describe those in power. It's not just WotC/Hasbro, it's everywhere. I'm so used to it that it comes as a complete shock to be heard for once. I genuinely thought WotC would fight to the end, digging their own grave and burying themselves in it along with anyone they could take down. Because what was the alternative? Giving everything up and apologize for real? Until it happened, I could not believe it could happen.

Money-hungry people tend to also be very prideful, and with a pride as damaged as the WotC executives', they are going to seek some form of revenge. It sounds like petty toddler behavior, but it's the reality of that mindset

This is a victory: large companies hate setting the president that anyone but their own leadership has any control over the company's decisions. It's not going to prevent them from trying again, but feel good about this- the community pulled through!

There was a time when my husband wanted to work for WotC. He has been involved with D&D since he was 7(he's 49 now). It was heartbreaking at the time that he couldn't even get into customer support. Now I feel like he dodged a bullet. I don't think I'll ever be OK with the toxic work environment or attitude towards the community that the higher execs displayed. I'll still play, but I have more loyalty to my GM than to any system.

Thanks to this situation I learned how to manage and do campaign details, characters, and collect reference material traditionally and through other means, eliminating my need for DND Beyond's systems. I'm still going to be playing DND, and now other systems, but I needed a push to get off the crutch of their easy onboarding system and virtual character sheets and actually learn the mechanics and rules myself. Now I've learned and now I don't need them. I thank them for being an easy introduction but also for teaching me to move on.

To be honest, I only like watching D&D and tabletop games. However, ever since I subscribed to you, I got really interested in joining some in the future. I now know what to look out for when it comes to playing with other people in these types of games as well as how to act.

I don't care if they were pressured into "doing the right thing" - they will never get another penny out of me, and there's no reason to trust them.

I don't know why but it always makes me and my spouse laugh when CritCrab's videos are just them fishing in FFXIV. Maybe because we fish too, I dont know. It just tickles our funny bone!

The crab army has more than that. If they are given knives, they are near unstoppable... No one would mess with a crab with a shank..

"So, you believe your client, already one of the wealthiest and most powerful people in the world, is secretly a vigilante who beats criminals to a bloody pulp with his bare hands; and your plan is to blackmail this person? Good luck."

1 - Bless you for leveling Fishing. I hate that gatherer SO much. 2 - You're entirely right. The more games that are out there ,the more things we have to look at and play and experience, the better off we'll all be!

Kudos to you Crab king! I love the sound of a Person who can broaden their horizons and becoming a more well rounded TTRPG player. I'm also pleased that you said that DnD was not the only role playing game in the world. Just like McDonald's isn't the only restaurant in the world. There's a myriad of different games, systems and styles to play. Don't get me wrong some people love eating exclusively at McDonald's but their flavor palate is rather Underused. Metaphorically speaking. If someone loves the art form that is our hobby of role playing I Encourage anyone who reads this to get out there and learn at least one new game/genre. Your mind will explode with new ideas. But back to you Chritcrab I'd be very interested in hearing what new games you play over this coming year.

Im going to say... This is like the Tarrasque.... One day it will wake up again... and we will have to find a way to get temporaly rid of it... Who knows when but I hope is not soon.

I found your videos totally by accident. I was soaking up all the backlash WOTC got from the Magic 30 debacle. Your videos highlighting how Hasbro is screwing up even more was just icing on the cake.