The captain actually did pull up right after entering the microburst, which is the correct maneuver to counter it. If they were 100 feet higher they could get out of it.

@ShockWaveGamings234fg321f

Жыл бұрын

they are good pilots in my opinion, but been given a bad hand

@sint5990

Жыл бұрын

It was the ineffective inputs on the throttle that sealed the deal. The F/O seemed scared to use the throttles and I’ve seen several sims where they input the correct throttle response and they never would’ve got below 300 ft. All good airmen, just a confluence of errors sealed their fate.

@jennifercheung6464

Жыл бұрын

@@sint5990 ?

@Tubulce

Жыл бұрын

@@sint5990 Mhm, may their souls rest in peace.

@TheConservativeinaction

Жыл бұрын

And if they hadn’t reduced speed because they needed it like 6 seconds later

I have remembered and studied this crash for 25 years. I don't know why it resonates with me so much. Recently I was flying to Denver airport. We had to go around because of a windshear warning across the runway. Everyone else complained. I thanked God for doppler radar.

@gelatinous6915

2 жыл бұрын

Denver is one windy sonofabitch, Stapleton used to be even worse before they tore it up

@herkloader34

2 жыл бұрын

Doppler radar has nothing to do with wind shear detection. Landing traffic usually gives airspeed gains or losses on final and most aircraft are equipped with wind shear alert systems. Denver always sucks flying into and out of because the winds are always crazy.

@igotnukes6011

Жыл бұрын

I was on a flight a couple of months after this that pulled up from landing due to wind shear. We flew to another city and spent the night there. I swear everyone on board knew the term "wind shear" and the only reason was because of this crash that happened a couple months earlier.

@rxw5520

3 ай бұрын

@@herkloader34wrong! They use LLWAS or TDWR. After this crash NASA engineers started testing 737s with onboard DOPPLER radar.

It’s terrible what happened to them, but these pilots sound very calm, cool and collected and I admire that

@pendejo6466

6 жыл бұрын

Tank 4 I

@joynerstephen

5 жыл бұрын

I guess pilots are trained to fly the plane until the last second. A good example was Alaska Airlines FLT 261 crash in the Pacific Ocean. Those pilots were trying to fly that plane upside down with all odds against him. But, they never gave up on flying their plane. Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. I read that this pilot on Delta FLT 191 was aware of microburst before it was officially named by government.

@fnordrabbit1156

4 жыл бұрын

Yep

@ChadDidNothingWrong

4 жыл бұрын

@@joynerstephen You know technically people/agencies in a government don't usually name these sorts of things, theyll just recognize them (I'm assume that's what you mean though). But anyway, he actual term was coined in the meteorology community, apparently by a guy named Fujita. I think you're right about that Captain though...the phenomenon of microbursts was becoming better known by then, and they had been specifically blamed for at least one previous high profile crash I believe... I imagine though, due to the continually ever-increasing amount of air travel in the US, weighed in with this crash, it had been made clear that microbursts were becoming a top threat here, and that it was time to re-route significant air-safety resources towards the development of a comprehensive detection system...

@liammay7756

4 жыл бұрын

Sure but 1000 feet should have been an go around...

Five minutes before this crash my father and mother and my family pulled to the side of the road just after we drove past the runway on the highway. It was raining so badly that the sky was nearly black. My father put the car into drive as it eased up slightly. I remember the rain was pounding the windshield and he drove along slowly. We heard a huge bang and saw some light and sparks. We thought it was lightning. He kept driving and by the time we got home we heard on the radio that it was 191. So scary. It hit right behind us and we didn’t even see it.

@AntoTheAvgeek

2 жыл бұрын

I want to see your video where the plane crash,!

@Xioverze

2 жыл бұрын

@@AntoTheAvgeek bro it was 1985 you think they had phones?

@Wongbis4

Жыл бұрын

@HE3A well yknow

@TrollAnimations160

9 ай бұрын

@@XioverzeI mean they did but not like phones today

@Xioverze

9 ай бұрын

@@TrollAnimations160 flip phone cameras back then were 24p

This animation shows perfectly how deadly the microburst is when you're flying low. First the wind blowing against you makes you lose airspeed and harder to control the plane. Second comes the downdraft which pushes you down forcefully, and third comes the final blow, the strong tailwind, which makes you lose even more airspeed and airflow under your wings, resulting you losing altitude, or in this case, a deadly crash. The pilots fought bravely till the bitter end. God bless their souls.

@tristansuria7180

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah you lose airspeed but increase lift

@sadenuttie2234

3 жыл бұрын

@@tristansuria7180 decrease, it pushes down on the aircraft

@tristansuria7180

3 жыл бұрын

@@sadenuttie2234 i mean headwind increase lift but lose speed and tailwind decrease lift increase airspeed at the same time

@aarontheaviationaddict3643

3 жыл бұрын

When you have a headwind, you gain airspeed but you lose ground speed.

@windshearahead7012

2 жыл бұрын

@@sadenuttie2234 you have no clue what you are talking about. A microburst is like a faucet when turned on, if you fly through it it’s gonna pull you down, it has nothing to do with headwind, and no, you don’t lose lift with a headwind.

It's scary how quickly this went from "feeling good" to "oh shit"

This is so damn sad, because they did everything to avoid this desaster. Hearing those Turbines running at max rpm in the background shows how dramatic it has been.

@tensevo

3 жыл бұрын

Everything except for landing in a thunderstorm. It shows even the best pilots cannot go up against the force of nature like that.

@DrKleiner0815

3 жыл бұрын

@@tensevo yes. Did they pitch the nose down before impact to gain speed?

@chemicalbrucey157

3 жыл бұрын

@@tensevo I dont believe they had the same knowledge about micro bursts as they do now Im not sure but i heard this crash was one of the main factors that cause aircraft these days to divert when the primary landing airport has weather like that

@razorfett147

2 жыл бұрын

@@chemicalbrucey157 this is correct. The meteorological knowledge on this phenomenon was not as expansive as it is now. I believe this crash actually did became part of a driving force to better understand micro bursts and wind shear in the years that followed. These days that kind of weather would definitely get arrivals diverted or put into holding until it clears the area

@jbetnar

Жыл бұрын

@@DrKleiner0815 no, the downforce of the wind drove the nose down.

rest in peace fellas

@officergregorystevens5765

6 жыл бұрын

They're in purgatory learning how to avoid microbursts until gaining their admittance into Heaven... FAA has some cl ought there.

@connorhilly410

6 жыл бұрын

Officer Gregory Stevens there was no technology to detect microbursts stupid

@Figgy_23

5 жыл бұрын

@@connorhilly410 True, but the pilots still are incompetent.

@plane8355

3 жыл бұрын

@@connorhilly410 we know

1:42 Jesus, that drop.

My grandmother died in this plain crash. I never met her. My mom was 21.

@maxiomaxiom6169

4 жыл бұрын

I’m sorry..

@visco1266

3 жыл бұрын

Im sorry for your loss

@shimijihed9257

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry

@zephyrstrains2842

3 жыл бұрын

Those poor people didn’t know what they were getting into, R.I.P to all of them

@kimber45ish

3 жыл бұрын

My customer who is now 100 years old lost her daughter in this crash as well..

Thanks for posting this. With the text, graphic, and audio it gives a good impression of the challenge the cockpit crew was facing, and their professionalism in trying to deal with the sudden loss of control so close to the ground.

"Push it up. Way up." "Way up." "Way up?" "Way up."

@gelatinous6915

2 жыл бұрын

They had to over-rev the engines. That much throttle would burn the engines out if used consistently.

Just incredible how calm the captain and FO were right until the last moment, did you notice how quickly it dropped out of the sky? Microburst I understand. I would say not much they could do, but I would not want to try and land in a thunderstorm.

@gelatinous6915

2 жыл бұрын

The storm they were in formed in two minutes and wasn't detected by radar. They didn't have a choice.

@gnnascarfan2410

Жыл бұрын

Microbursts were not well known back in those days.

@stephenfortin9485

Жыл бұрын

@@gelatinous6915 storm was there, it just got really nasty really fast..

Am I the only one who was never able to hear the tower say "Delta Go Around"?

@liamblackman63

8 жыл бұрын

I think it's because it was just after the CVR stopped recoding

@thatguy5915

8 жыл бұрын

maybe Liam Blackman

@MrCheddahcheese

8 жыл бұрын

Theres a small delay on the recording so the last 2 or so seconds aren't ever recorded on every flight.either due to electronics all failing from impact or simply a disconnection from the impact from the front end of the plane to the tail end where the blackboxes are placed

@Duhya

7 жыл бұрын

The recordings usually go on until the cockpit is separated from the tail, sometimes you'll even hear a thump being cut off.

@KOHF34

7 жыл бұрын

whitemale The CVR ended before it could pick up that go around request. They know the ATC said it, though.

Basically the first officer reverted back to basic control instincts, when he said "What's the Vref?", he must have looked at his airspeed indication, seen it was below Vref, and then lowered the nose to try to regain speed. But, since this was a microburst, it took all the kinetic energy and lift out of the aircraft, and it just sank. Full power, less flaps, make sure no speedbrakes applied, and pull it slowly all the way up to almost stall angle and they might have survived.

@topmech71

Жыл бұрын

I’m not a pilot but more than likely there was no saving it after the first impact because one of the wing engines was taken out after it hit a car on freeway.

Captain knew about micro bursts. “You gonna lose it all of the sudden”

Thanks for the encouragement :) I flew last year but I have to do it again this year and it's scary as hell with this stuff.

Thanks for posting, this is a great animation and greatly illustrates how helpless you are, no matter what the equipment you are flying should you choose to depart or land at an airport when wind-shear is present.

When the plane first hit the ground, it struck a car on the highway that runs by the airport. Car was destroyed, and the driver killed.

@mikegallant811

6 ай бұрын

Driver was named William Mayberry. Poor bastard was decapitated when his car was destroyed.

This animation was apparently expensive and took a long time, but it is very accurate.

I've known about this crash for a long time, but I never knew how quickly it went wrong

Sound of engines High RPM really gave me goosebumps

All pilots can thank this crew for giving up their lives so we can save ours. Due to this accident we have looked at the parameters involved in all decreasing performance incidents and set a limit on what would have saved everyone in every accident to date encountering this. Now, once we get to those parameters we go around. This crew and these passengers would have survived had they used the parameters that were developed due to their unfortunate timing and the incredible microburst storm they encountered at the worst possible moment on approach. Unfortunately, they did not have the benefit of the industry defining the limit, beyond which it is not allowable to continue an approach. I knew this first officer. He was a Christian and one of the best men I've ever met. A wonderful family man. He would use every paycheck to feed the homeless and he used to visit prisons and talk to prisoners about Christ and what it meant to him and his family. I have not met a better man in my life to date and I don't anticipate I will. It is unfortunate that the good men sometimes get taken too early. Rest in peace. God bless everyone who lost their lives on this day and their families and friends. God bless you too.

@alexf9381

2 жыл бұрын

It's good that they at least did not die in vain. RIP.

@markprange4386

10 ай бұрын

"parameters"?

@bertraminc9412

10 ай бұрын

@@markprange4386 Speed, VSI, Pitch, Power changes that give the first indications of severe low-level windshear. Had this crew gone around when observing these first indications, this most likely would not have happened.

@cowsgoloka

8 ай бұрын

​@@bertraminc9412True . But when take precautions and go around, others ( costing people) think we are fools or cowards / inexperienced to land at tough conditions. Even if we take some precautions ( saving money, turning off cigarettes bud in in a dry leaves garden ) at home, then other family members and friends ridicule us. Unless fire engulfs the neighborhood they don't see any danger from a cigarette. This world is no place for a gentleman

dang that was so sad at the end. good thing that they were found generally not at fault.

@Zoe-cl7eo

7 жыл бұрын

Martin Theiss Only 136 out of 163 survived(152 passengers and 11 crew was on the plane)also one driver was crushed because the plane hit it And it bounced up

@Duhya

7 жыл бұрын

136 died out of 163. Not 136 survived out of 163.

@DJWolves97

7 жыл бұрын

Actually the NTSB determined the incident to be caused by mainly by pilot error due to lack of understanding of "evacuation" procedures for the given scenario of windshear/microburst tailwind. Also, by having the set mindset of landing with no go-around despite the weather conditions.

@panzerdragon1121

7 жыл бұрын

DJWolves97 There was no procedure for microbursts at the time.

@DJWolves97

7 жыл бұрын

NorthBoundWolf there was a go-around procedure and they were not trained and lacked a good judgment call to determine that it was unsafe to proceed with a landing i.e. the lack of a v ref callout and were not trained to deal with that scenario as he lost all lift due to pushing the yoke forward to regain the loss in vertical speed as said by UNK, "you'll lose it (speed)" he lost all vertical speed by dumping it all in the dive.

Listening to good pilots, many of them trained years in the military. They were cool and collected. My heart goes out to all those lost.

WHOOP WHOOP PULL UP WHOOP WHOOP PULL UP

@soufox1149

5 жыл бұрын

Is hunting warning sound

@sexycooljulesverne

5 жыл бұрын

WHOOP WHOOP PULL OUT WHOOPS WHOOPS I DIDN'T PULL OUT

@greenbeagle13

5 жыл бұрын

@ Strange Online Little Boy - Grow up little boy....

@soufox1149

5 жыл бұрын

@@greenbeagle13 LOL

@themarkus05246

5 жыл бұрын

👌👌

THE most haunting CVR in my opinion. Not saying the most severe or intense, but something about it really gets to me. Really cool you're showing the ILS glide slope at the same time as the other data, too. Thanks. Part of the creepiness is the older "Pull up!" recording I think. NOt sure if this recording here was exclusive to Lockheed or anything either. It seems like Trijets were cursed...

@Hot80s

6 жыл бұрын

most haunting? not even close to western flying into mexico city kzread.info/dash/bejne/hKKL2duPhJDUdaQ.html

@janipt

4 жыл бұрын

Dude this is little childs bedtime story compared to Western Airlines Flight 2605. That primitive screaming will haunt me forever. Never heard anything like that before

@TexasMan77

3 жыл бұрын

@@janipt Yes, I’ve heard that one. So awful. Reading the crash report, the aircraft hit the runway with severe G forces and bounced up, something like that. They never should’ve released that CVR. Nobody needs to hear that.

@johnniendorf5948

3 жыл бұрын

The Comair at Lexington was pretty bad, too. The sound of one of the pilots saying “UGGGGHHHHHH!!!” right at the sound of impact was very disturbing.

@m1co294

5 ай бұрын

The überlingen mid-air collision, the DHL plane's CVR cut out just right after the collision but the Tupolev's kept on going even when the plane was already sliced in two. You could hear the pilots gasping for air, and the cries of the children behind them since it was loaded with students.

I actually enjoy listening to the voice of that ATC guy with the Texas accent like a boss. Most ATC voices are usually much quieter. Was 8 years old when this happened and remember seeing the charred tail on the front page of the San Antonio express news. The words “windshear” and “microburst” entered the lexicon. This crash was even mentioned on “rain man” a few years later.

Flight crew and captain deserve enormous credit..recordings 30 Minutes earlier show they knew the danger facing them with the weather...the captain knew exactly how the plane would get pushed if it encountered the worst..and he knew the correct actions to take immediately when it occurred..they executed everything according to textbook doctrine and teachings at the time without a second of hesitation or panicking when faced directly with a hellacious circumstance..those actions slowed decent for 100 to less than 10 feet per second...if they had just 50-100 more feet of forgiveness everyone would have walked away..in the end they were defeated by an act of God, the universe, destiny what ever you want to call it..there is no shame in facing an insurmountable and situation with tremendous professionalism and courage.

@diegosilang4823

Жыл бұрын

Even they crashed, there is an open field they just crash through could hsve been minimal casualties, but a car was in the wrong place in the wrong time and strucked and disabled one of the wing engines causing a thrust differential, the aircraft to veer into the water tank and did most of the destruction and casualties. Most of th e survivors are from the tail section.

@cowsgoloka

8 ай бұрын

​@smf333Nicely explained, after seeing the lightening they should have gone around. More than knowledge, application of knowledge is best intelligence.

30 Years to the day, only 10 days later JAL 123 would happen.

@70MarYa

8 жыл бұрын

Thats disturbing

@martintheiss7666

8 жыл бұрын

JAL resulted in the airline chief mechanic gutting his midsection with a carving knife in a traditional rite of suicide. It was not a microburst.

@martintheiss7666

8 жыл бұрын

JAL 123 was an institutional failure of oversight.

@antman5474

6 жыл бұрын

And only five weeks earlier Air India flight182 got blown up, 1985 was a bad year for aviation

@BritanniaPacific

6 жыл бұрын

Ant Laud 1985 ended with the crash of arrow air flight 1285 in gander, Newfoundland in December of that year. All 256 people on board, 248 of them American soldiers, dead.

Truly terrifying how rapidly that all hit them! I always remember seeing one documentary from back in the 90's where they'd programmed a simulator with exact same data from the recorder and got a Delta training captain to fly it. That really brought home the seemingly impossible situation that 191's flight crew suddenly found themselves in. RIP all who lost their lives 🌹

You can here the second officer (flight engineer) "I had em at idle" right before the captain says push em up (full throttle).

@procksomaterman

6 жыл бұрын

can you put a time stamp? I don't hear it

@joannefolan9329

6 жыл бұрын

hoffer54 i

Delta Air Lines Flight 191 was a regularly scheduled Delta Air Lines domestic service from Fort Lauderdale, Florida, to Los Angeles with an intermediate stop at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport (DFW). On August 2, 1985, the Lockheed L-1011 TriStar operating Flight 191 encountered a microburst while on approach to land at DFW. The aircraft impacted ground just over one mile (1.6 km) short of the runway, struck a car near the airport, collided with two water tanks, and disintegrated. 137 people died and 25 others were injured in the crash.[a] The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) determined that the crash resulted from the flight crew's decision to fly through a thunderstorm, the lack of procedures or training to avoid or escape microbursts, and the lack of hazard information on wind shear. Forecasts of microbursts improved in the following years, with USAir Flight 1016 being the only subsequent microburst-induced crash of a commercial, fixed-wing aircraft in the United States as of 2024.[7] Rip delta 191 (explaining from wikepidia)

I think one of the most heartbreaking things about this tragedy is the connection between the two officers. Both seemed like such incredible people and true fighting warriors. I wish the best for the two of them in heaven

On this plane were Don Estridge, an American computer engineer who led development of the original IBM Personal Computer (PC), and thus is known as the "father of the PC revolution". His decisions dramatically changed the computer industry, resulting in a vast increase in sales of personal computers, thus creating an entire industry of hardware manufacturers of IBM PCs. Steve Jobs offered Estridge a multimillion-dollar job as president of Apple Computer but he declined. Estridge and wife Mary Ann were killed in the crash of Delta Air Lines Flight 191 at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport on August 2, 1985. He was 48 years old. The Estridges were survived by their four daughters. At the time of his death, IBM ESD, which included the development and manufacturing of the IBM PC, PC DOS, PC LAN and TopView, had nearly 10,000 employees and had sold over a million PCs.

Shoutout to the atc for telling them to go around just 1 second before 2nd Impact

It's really weird how there's 6 different flights known as "Flight 191." There was this crash Delta 191, American 191, JetBlue 191, and 3 others.

@SomeUser9753

9 жыл бұрын

191 = 9/11 you know. I don't believe in coincidences.

@hugostiglitz4215

7 жыл бұрын

SomeUser9753 there are no coincidences..would you board a flight 666 or 911 or 191? You couldn't pay me to fly on these screaming jet fuel filled death machines

@H4nnub4l

7 жыл бұрын

Regular Finnair flight 666 is particularly popular when they fly it 13. day of the month.

@Peanutbutterlover12

3 ай бұрын

​@@hugostiglitz4215 boac 911

great video of crash

The NTSB ruled that Captain Connors, erred by continuing to approach DFW. When First Officer Rudolph Price said, "Lightning coming out of that one", that should have been a cue for Connors to abort the landing. The microburst that Delta 191 flew through later spawned a tornado.

@masterchiefgtxable

8 жыл бұрын

Yep, another point where the flight could have been saved is when the captain seemed to realize they were flying into a microburst when he requested more power the first time. Could have probably successfully gone around if full power was maintained and they attempted a climb...

@Religious_man

8 жыл бұрын

Spawned a tornado? What's your source? That has nothing to do with the crash.

@KOHF34

8 жыл бұрын

It shows how powerful that microburst was.

@Ch3mG33k

8 жыл бұрын

Not to mention microbursts don't last particularly long. I doubt they last long enough to "spawn" a tornado. Sounds like armchair meteorology to me.

@MD88Pilot

7 жыл бұрын

If I were the pilot I wouldve gone around. It makes more sense, If you need to add more speed consider your altitude and situation. Proper procedure was a go around.

I couldn’t hear the tower said ( DELTA GO AROUND )

Basically they hit windshear/microburst conditions. First you get nailed with strong headwinds which increases lift (more air going over wings) but hurts your speed. You need to push the throttles up and you need to know that at some point in the next few seconds that strong headwind will turn into a strong down-wind trying to drive you into the ground. When the plane drops suddenly, that's the downwind.

@menraholez69 awesome -- thanks for sharing!

Once the first officer noticed the lighting in front of them the captain should have initiated to go around.

@oxygen0069

4 жыл бұрын

Yes but its kind of different when you're Actuslly flying i guess

@gelatinous6915

2 жыл бұрын

That was a cloud miles and miles away. The storm cell they were in formed in two minutes and wasn't detected by radar

*_YA GOT GOOD LEGS DONTCHA_*

It crashed because of *microburst*.

@Zoe-cl7eo

7 жыл бұрын

Yılmaz DALKIRAN no one of the engine come loose during it pulling up from the runway

@rabbitweasel

7 жыл бұрын

You got the wrong incident. You're talking about AA 191, not DL 191.

@DJWolves97

7 жыл бұрын

no, it crashed because the crew didn't follow the wind-shear "evacuate" protocols. They left the auto-thrust on which retarded the engine power needed for the evacuation of the micoburst downwind. They pushed the nose down at a low altitude to increase the loss of speed, in doing so, losing their effective lift.

@YlmazDALKIRANscallion

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the correction, guys.

@panzerdragon1121

7 жыл бұрын

DJWolves97 Do you have any idea how auto throttle works? If the pilots move the throttles, it disconnects itself. Also, the autopilot was disconnected when the pilots moved the yoke, meaning auto throttle on the L1011 would have disconnected itself.

So, the sound of the first impact was the sound of engine 1 hitting the Toyota Celica driven by Bill Mayberry? The second impact must have been when they collided with the water tanks.

Live on the south side of DFW and amazed that's the last major incident that occured. Planes overhead all of the time

@gelatinous6915

2 жыл бұрын

Also Delta 1141

Such a sad time... I used to go to this airport all the time

@Zoe-cl7eo

7 жыл бұрын

taby lowrimore only 136 out of 163 survived(152 passengers and 11 crew)also one driver was crushed because the plane hit it And bounced off

Hell of a thing to watch. RIP.

That feeling in the stomach must’ve been horrible in that sudden drop.

What I find amazing is how many empty seats (thankfully) were on the plane. I'm old enough to remember when you'd take planes that were half full. Not sure I remember last time that was the case.

@daybreakgray3452

9 ай бұрын

is it because more people are flying nowadays?

*130 people die to a microburst and a water tank* ATC: go around

Damn, I didn't realize they came so close to getting out of it. RIP

We took KDFW -TV live for hours afterward in Austin

I gave u credit for the aduio i used the vid

I was 15 in Trinity High School Euless TX (bordering the airport)...I always remember people blaming the crash on "downshear"......

"Oh shit"

Looking and listening when the power on the engines was increased, it went up, but it also sounds like it was throttled back a bit also. Probably should have kept the power setting as high as possible. Also, when they were fighting the shear, the plane's attitude was leveled off which also caused the L-1011 to descend. I guess the F/O did this or the shear was just that powerful?

@hoffer54

9 жыл бұрын

herbergreen I caught that also, I think the second officer said ( flight engineer) "I had them at idle" or flight idle which is normal on approach using power to adjust the for glide slope. These poor guys did not have a chance with that down burst.

@airplanegod The Twr controller is requesting DL191 to fly the missed approach (go-around break off the landing and fly the published missed approach) but it was too late the aircraft already impacted the ground.

I think it was hit by a microburst. At about 1:22 pay attention to the altimeter. They stop gliding downwards. I suspect this is when they hit the strong headwinds, then around 1:38 they start to drop rapidly due to strong downward force. I guess they didn't have enough time to increase airspeed before the tailwinds made it utterly impossible to gain lift again... If they even made it to the tailwinds.

When did flight 191 collide with the car? as the first impact sound or the second?

@TexasMan77

5 жыл бұрын

Blarg First impact, killing the driver.

Sad thing is right when it crashes the tower tells them to go around. But it was already too late

If you watch the mayday air disaster video it tells that they were so close to actually saving the plane but it was too low to avoid the microburst. If the pilot never reduced speed they would have probably survived

They hit water tanks at the end and the three pilots died.

This one was crazy because the first officer was landing but the captain knew right away the were about to enter a down draft. This crash is why they have wind sheer alerts now because it happens so fast with little warning but still this guy knew right away what was about to happen. Even if he'd been flying I don't think it would of mattered they were too low to recover but those instincts are crazy to learn about. I'd bet my life he was ex military the good ones tend to always be

That Texas accent tho'

@masonm1124

6 жыл бұрын

Nathaniel Authentic, too. Some people think texas accents are very cowboy like.

@comercole1940

3 жыл бұрын

@Philip S yup

his last word was "shit"

@airplanegod the tower controller probably saw that they were not on a stable approach path to the runway and instructed them to abort their landing.

I fell so scared for flying at DFW Airport I live a couple minutes away from it

thx

1:57 UNK: Sh*t Speaker:pull u- **plane crashes into water tank**

That's Horrible To Hear That Their Last Words Are All "OH SHIT!"

@StormFlicks Because microburst push the aircraft down, it doesn't affect the aircraft's forward momentum.

Listen how fast things can go terribly wrong

This is why you never go to Microburst...

@sodakar yes that was the one i meant, iread somewhere that on the 707, 727 and all 737s and early 747s this was the take-off configuration warning and cabin altitude

they had the best guys behind the controls, so sad

Just FYI, this is the lone ground casualty, the driver of the car that was clipped by the plane: dallasnews.imgix.net/NM_10DELTACRASH6_3529630.jpg

@wizardmix

7 жыл бұрын

He died on his birthday.

@antman5474

6 жыл бұрын

what car is that?

@thomsonfly645k according to the CVR transcript, its a take off warning sound.

The elements won that day. They should have gone around when the saw lightning coming out of the clouds in front of them.

@gelatinous6915

2 жыл бұрын

It was a Tristar, those things could self-land in thunderstorms.

Poor pilots. They did everything they can to stop the plane from losing control :(

I was living in Grapevine at the time on my way home from work. There was water all over the road because the jet clipped the water tank. The wreckage was very close to the road. The plane clipped the Marriott and came down briefly on Hwy 114 crushing a car. Made me sick

Burning question for me is how many more people would have survived if the plane had not hit the water tanks? In other words, if where they landed had no obstacles. Would more people have survived? Everyone?

@antman5474

6 жыл бұрын

Possibly but it's difficult to know for sure. The survivors sat in the tail section and I'm not sure if that part of the plane broke off when it bounced or when it hit the water tank. It's worth thinking about though.

@sulphurous2656

5 жыл бұрын

I think everyone would have survived.

@gelatinous6915

2 жыл бұрын

If it wasn't for the tower, they would have been able to pull back up and hopefully go around.

@gamma_dablam

9 ай бұрын

The killer was the water tanks for sure. Also ... it's slightly unfortunate phrasing to call that a "burning question"

I'm wondering if there was any way they could have got out of the windshear condition..

01:45 Whoop Whoop Pull Up!

@thomsonfly645k You're talking about the constant beeping one at 1:54, right? If you listen to JAL 123 (eg: odRCEHBmLfU), you'll hear it throughout that recording, but I'm unable to determine what the alarm is for... I'm not able to find it readily using the mighty google... Hmm. If you find out, do share... ;)

What does seven sixty two in the baro mean

@StormFlicks Plus the fact that tailwinds didn't help that much either, as it doesn't produce lift for the wings.

@DisasterOnline exactly right, but i think you meen you lose ground speed when the head wind hits you, the airspeed actually increases so the pilots slow down.

Sad his last words to his son was go away.

@fireabyss5147

8 ай бұрын

How do you know

@allorfallusmc7963

8 ай бұрын

@@fireabyss5147 you hear him say it.

Was this the crash that inspired the movie 'Fire and Rain' I think it starred Corbin Burnsin.

If your flight is numbered 191 I’d take a train

A weather microburst forced the plane to lose altitude

@pcmiler2000 You're wrong. NTSB Blamed both the crew and Delta Airlines. NTSB concluded that the Delta Airlines did not provide their crew enough training.

@gelatinous6915

2 жыл бұрын

The NTSB was spouting accusations to cover their own asses about their lack of action on windshear. Ed Conners had 30,000 hours of experience.

@Skybolter Re-read my post. I didn't mention Flt 191.

This was auctully 10 days before Japan airline 123 crash

When I imagined how I crashed my Rc helicopter in a storm

Push it up, push it way up. Way up. Way up...

Great plane. I don't ever recall an L-1011accident, (with fatalities) that was caused by mechanical failure or design characteristic.

@phillipngo2133

3 жыл бұрын

lochwharral there was a time where the l1011 landing gear light was burnt out but then again, it was pilot error

@gelatinous6915

2 жыл бұрын

@@phillipngo2133 Yep, none of them were acctually flying the plane. They all left the cockpit and the plane crashed.

Oh no that poor El Ten Eleven...and of course everyone who died