Two terrific mics for mobile use. Same capsule in both but the pro version offers some handy bells and whistles ......

Best video/evaluation of Deity, Rode microphones that I have seen. Great job!

You're not talking to yourself dude. I watched the whole video except (admittedly) about a minute of the outdoor test. You did a really good job with this video. My friend Titus at "The Search For Awesome" has borrowed my D3 and I told myself that when I got it back, I'd compare the two but I'd only add a couple of things so... do I even bother? You killed it.

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Allen. In spte of what I did for a living, being myself in front of a lens is really difficult.! (At least in a public place) I think these two mics are important ones for video people. For quite some time, I’ve seen people mention that this or that mic ‘beats’ a Rode ... whatever, but these two seriously do that.

@SoundSpeeds

5 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig I completely agree. The Rode way too bassy and does the MKH thing - boosting the low end so at a close distance it sounds like proximity effect and farther away gives a false impression on closeness. I enjoyed your presentation and finally subbed.

Awesome comparison, exactly what I was looking for, in Canada the D3/D3 Pro difference is $139 CDN / $269 CDN, so it's fairly substantial and I'm trying to decide if the extra $130 is worth it. Cheers! :)

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Glad that it was useful, Jason.

I would like to add another thanks for this review. Reviews like these that are well produced, to the point, done by those who have bought the products with their own money, and include clear judgements about the products as used in realistic typical scenarios, are rare gems here on KZread. I've bought the D3. I think the smaller size would fit better on my a6500, especially when using a wide angle lens. I can see the use of the adjustable gain and filters on the D3 Pro, but I figure I can plug the D3 into a Zoom recorder with a gain knob if I really need the control, and adding filtering in post shouldn't be much of a burden.

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeremy. I’ve been on the brink of stopping doing these videos if I’m honest due to low number of viewers.

Best review I've ever seen. WOW. I love how you did every angle with every environment. So in depth. Thank you 🙏

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching it Rafayelle.

Very good review of these two mics. Just what I was looking for before purchasing. Thanks for posting it.

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Pistolero. Glad it was useful. I went into an amazing fushing and gun shop in Great Yarmouth recently. Never seen si many guns in my life!!

Very well done Ian...... You helped me to see the difference between thee two micophones very clearly. Thank you.

Haha… that last few words got me to subscribe. “Feel like I’m talking to myself..”

@iancraig

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rowel. That’s how I felt for a long time!

Good comparison. Really got me thinking about on the fly gain control. Thanks.

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

I’m glad it was useful, Ben. Also, check out the Rode version. Boy, it has a lot of gain!

Great review! I like your way of explaining things. You're kind and clear. Don't give up on doing these videos. I'll wait for more. Cheers!

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gustavo. I have a few more viewers these days so that’s encouraging! Producing one video every week now.

Worth every penny

@iancraig

2 жыл бұрын

They are!

You explain very well done.

@iancraig

11 ай бұрын

Thank you.

Great review / comparison Ian! Really helped with my decision. Keep it up! Defenitly subbed :)

Loved the comparison! Thanks

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was useful.

Thank you so much for this video, saved alot of bucks and got myself a d3.

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

The D3 is great, Cliff. I’m not too happy with Deity though since they altered the D3 pro quietly 8 months ago so that it no longer goes into ‘sleep’ mode without saying anything, so early adopters like myself are left with a £180 microphone that has to be switched on again after 15 minutes.

Thank you for the review. Think I'm going to go with the Diety D3 the non pro version. It sounds very similar for half the price and the size will work better with my mirrorless camera.

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

It also needs a battery. I must admit, the size is very attractive; especially with wider angled lenses. They sound very similar tbh.

I subbed and added notifications! Your excellent at what you do good sir! 🤝🏼

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Jose.

Really enjoyed your review and comparison. Liked and subscribed! You deserve more views and subscribers! Keep it up.

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, SlowVersion.

I just subscribed. I bought the D3 pro but im thinking about returning it and getting the smaller D3 saving the cash and getting something else. Video for my uses is secondary as i'm mainly a stills photographer. great comparison,

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nick. I really like the Pro a lot. I went the other way. Got a taste for its sound and went straight for the Pro a few days later. Both have the same capsule although the Pro is a bit better built and has the controls. The ability to adjust gain outside of the camera menu system is really useful for me. Also, the two high pass filters on the pro allow you to cut wind sounds and rumble which in turn allows you to raise the gain for speech. I hate digging into menus while filming because that’s when mistakes are made because you tend to hurry in order to get the shot. I’d rather pay the extra and use the D3 than use say, a Rode Videomic Go. D3 is significantly better sounding and is a great buy.

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Nick, did you return it? Just in case you didn’t, the D3 Pro gives about the same output as the D3 when the back volume is set to 5. Might give you an idea of difference in sensitivity. Another thing I’ve found which is interesting .... I get less noise on the videomic pro+ with its 20dB boost because it is actually quite a bit louder than the D3 Pro so the nasty camera preamp has to do less work, reducing the noise, in spite of what the figures say!

Nice review Ian. Actually after your in depth review which is awesome, I'm still quite torn between the two. The D3 is budget friendly and the battery is replaceable anytime but on the other hand the D3 Pro offers more features but the price is doubled. Good tips, for me I'd still keep the two also :)

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Personally, I like the simplicity and the lower price of the D3.

@JC-sm7so

4 жыл бұрын

I've already ordered online the D3 Pro, waiting for it to arrive. :) Would you recommend a deadcat for cancelling wind noise? what brand if yes?

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

JC Mago, yes, a deadcat will be needed. Most mics need them. The foamie is OK but outdoors, it’s not great. You know, I never think about what makes of deadcat I have. I just throw them on. The nicer ones come from Rode but ar more expensive. Probably because they are lined. I think I was using a Rode VideoMicPro+ deadcat on mine recently. It might be an idea to get the measurements of the barrel and find say a Rode mic that is close in size and get that deadcat? Really, it would be nice if Deity supplied one that fits and even locks on closely like the VideomicPro+ one does. It has a rubber seal on the back end. Very often, the back is the point of weakness but I know of some generic type deadcats that have pulls on the back that tighten down. I think from Movo. Best of all, try and avoid wind! The D3 pro is a good mic. Sounds great outdoors. In many ways I prefer it to the Rode VideomicPro+. One thing I have with mine is that the battery goes flat if I store it away for a while. That is a pain. But I don’t think everyone gets that. Mine was doomed from the start because it was one of the first and the damned thing switches itself off after 15 minutes. I wish I’d waited because I don’t use it much as a result. I had no idea about itbecause mine was a preorder. Yours will stay on though. I’m still waiting for a Rode Videomic NTG. I think quality control at Rode slowed things down as far as distribution goes. There seems to be a shortage of them in the UK. The most useful thing about the NTG and the D3 is the variable gain on the back. Very quick to sort out levels.

Fantastic review/comparison. 10/10 great vid

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Zoe.

Very useful video but a test outside without the dead cut to see the difference how much the wind actually cuts

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Really? In outdoor test do you honestly think a foamie would have held that winter wind off? Neither mic would have worked and that would be in common with most shotgun mics. No one with mic experience would normally use a mic outside with just a foamie. Too chancy. Foamies outside aren’t a good idea. Use a deadcat/furry windshield and then the wind noise would depend on the quality of the windshield. Foamies don’t work outside on the whole and I wouldn’t chance it with anything important. It’s just taking a chance and not worth it. Deity don’t supply a proper windshield.

Thanks. Really appreciate your review. Might go & buy D3 to use with my Canon P&S camera.

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Relaxing and thorough testing 🌠🌟🌟🌟🌟

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, ucheucheuche. I’m still fighting the urge to stop making films since I don’t have that many viewers and comments like yours motivate me to keep going!

great video ian! very informational and organized! think i’m going to buy the d3 for my canon m50!

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sean. The D3 is a good buy and probably (imo) better value for money too!

Thanks for the helpful comparison video. :)

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was useful.

I could be wrong. But it sounded like the standard D3 was less effected by the reverb in the indoor test

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

I really like the less flashy D3; especially with the nonsense that Deity caused by making a quiet alteration to the D3 Pro so that it no longer has the 15 minute switch off if you get a new one. I wonder how many old ones ate still out there in shops? The D3 has the same capsule as the pro but a different barrel. Great all round mic for big caneras, or even on top of a GoPro. A bit meatier sounding than the Rode Videomicro.

I'm still quite torn! It seems like the differences are small but I'm worried that I will be missing that gain knob.

@iancraig

2 жыл бұрын

Very similar sound. If I’m honest, I mostly ‘set and forget’ that knob. It’s more useful for people who set the gain high on the camera, but set it around -12dB peak and most things end up ok. The other thing is that it is significantly bigger so can be seen in wide angle lenses more easily.

@Trevor-Watlington

2 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig my mind is telling me d3, simply because it is more than half of the price of the pro ($60 vs $140 USD) and they use the same capsule. But my heart is telling me to get the pro as I'm worried the longer tube, wind pass filter will make a big difference. It seems like most people have the pro and not the regular anyways.

Thanks! I'm looking for a mic for recording my own videos, this was helpful!

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped.

Thanks! Great review) You helped me to choose. I will go for a d3)

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped, Eugene. Both have same capsule. Pro has more gain though if you have a noisy preamp.

Great test again Ian. Quick question. How much can you boost the Pro?... and if you would compare that with the VideoMicro? I am looking for a lightweight and easy setup for documentary style interviews where the people could stand/sit up to 5ft away… maybe even connect the Deity D3 Pro or the VideoMicro to a Rode Wireless Go on a Rycote Pistol Grip (yes, with a Softie)

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

It has a fairly good amount of gain. Not as much as the Rode Videomic Pro+ but will pick up from 5 feet. The problem really though (as with all mics at that distance) is that it will pick up the room so attaching it to the Wireless Go and getting it closer makes sense. I sometimes use a selfie stick to hold the mic close out if shot. For ‘stand up’ interview stuff, I use the Senn MKE600. It has a supercardioid pattern and sounds really crisp, I’d try one of your Senns and compare. They might be better for that kind of thing,

@MarkusSenior

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the quick response. I like your selfie stick trick :-) I think I will start to use again my Senn ME66 with a XLR to TRS cable…. Just a little bit bulky, especially while backpacking.

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

I have all sorts of selfi sticks! One reason I use the Senn mke600 is because it runs on a battery as well as phantom power. It’s a super cardioid so blocks out a good amount of noise. I often use it on a pistol grip which knocks handling noise on the head and still allows you to hold the mic out under the camera....... or even put it on the floor on a mini tripod facing up!!

@MarkusSenior

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Will check out more of your videos :-)

Great review, great shirt!

Thanks Ian that was a helpful Vid

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Glad it was useful.

You can easily solve the Zoom h1n compatibility issue with a TRRS to TRS adapter like this one : www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L6C8PNU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1&th=1

Hai Lan...very good comparison. D 3 pro is useless when the inbuilt battery is dead. Isn’t it ?

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is! I also think that you don’t get any kind of warning. For anything important, I’d change the battery before starting with the d3 and use rechargeables so it is a bit more convenient than buying new batteries every time!!

Great review Ian. I am planning to pair zoom h1n with D3 pro as my studio boom audio unit. So are you saying i should use TRS to TRS cable instead the given TRRS to TRRS?

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Try it first, Dimas. To be honest, I don’t use the D3 pro that much with a recorder. When I noticed something amiss I changed the cable to a normal TRS and never used the original again. I had a connection problem with the Zooms at the start and contacted Deity. They said that the wiring in the Zoom ‘n’ versions was different and when I suggested putting a TRS in with the mic as well, they seemed to feel that it wasn’t necessary. Pity really; especially when you see a cheap Comica £24 mic with two cables but not a premium one like the D3 pro. I don’t use my D3 really because of two things.... the battery seems to lose its power while switched off over a quite short period, so you can be suddenly out of power while filming if it hasn’t had a charge just before going. Mine also switches completely off after 15 minutes of standby. The first 400 do this and apparently it was designed this way as a power saving feature. However, after the first 400 went out, Deity changed them to stay on in standby. So as much as I like its sound, I find it a bit dodgy in use basically because of power issues. I’ll soon have the new Rode so it’ll be permanently packed away. I only get it out for review comparisons.

Good review and comparison Ian and you are definitely not just talking to yourself. I ended up getting the D3 for the cost, smaller footprint, and sound. It’s replacing a Rode VideoMicro on my GH5. I did buy a Bubblebee Windkiller for it which helps A LOT. What model/size Windjammer are you using on yours?

Hi Ian, cheers from Malaysia. Just a quick question, I'm planning to buy an extension cable for d3. Should I buy a trrs to trrs cable or a trs-trs cable for my Sony a6400?

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Yi. I use the Rode extension lead. Good electrical noise rejection.

@jasonyii8103

3 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig Thanks for your reply Ian. So, should I use sc1 trrs or vc1 trs cable? Sorry, still a newbie here >

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Trrs is for iPad, iPhone. TRS for cameras. Actually, for my live streams, I use an iPad with a Rode NTG and I connect to the iPad using TRRS at the iPad end and a TRS at the mic end. I use the Rode TRS extension lead.

@jasonyii8103

3 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig Thanks mate! Finally an answer that I want. Have been 'googling' for so long.

Thank you Ian!

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

And thank you for watching it Damian.

For me the Pro has a better highend, which makes improved articulation on the voice.

High pass is also good for reducing wind noise.

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed it is, although much more accurately done in post.

very nice video

@iancraig

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Hi Ian, a nice comparison of these two microphones. Do both Deity microphones work well with the Sony AX53 camcorder or is another microphone better?

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

They’re quite similar in sound Frans, but the Pro has more control over input levels so no need to go into menus to set volume. However, the Pro is significantly bigger in size.

@fransv1398

3 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig Thank you for the quick and valuable response Ian

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Frans, I use two other mics. The Rode VideoMic Pro+ because nothing else touches it in high wind with the Rode deadcat. A new one that I have found sounds good is a Sennheiser MKE400. Both not cheap but sound good and good for outside video.

@fransv1398

3 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig Thank you Ian, what also works well is the Sennheiser MKE 200. This is a bit smaller than the MKE 400 and also extremely suitable to function in the wind. The MKE 200 gives a nice clear sound. The low frequencies can be amplified a bit, for example in Audacity. It is also recommended to use, for example, a Boya shock mount to reduce the handling noise to zero.

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I have the 200 as well. How does the Boys shock mount fit? The 200 indeed has less bass than the 400 but is great to use with an Osmo Action or Sony ZV1 because of its tiny size.

I think the deity non pro more natural and nearest to your original voice. And a compact size+ you can shoot a whole day long with AAA battery. It is a good choice to me pickup the deity d3 non pro? sorry for my bad english.

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Your English is great Rijal. They both actually use the same capsule. So the sound between the two of them is really close. I would only buy the pro version if I needed to be able to adjust the gain on the fly. I would say that is the most useful feature of the D3 pro.

Hi there Ian, love the video!! I was wondering what deadcat you use for the D3? I've been looking but i only find deadcats for the D3 pro. Thanks!

you can use your smartphone with a 48khz app. there's your zoom h1n replacer.

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Since making this, Sven, I had another mic sent and it works with the h1n! Andrew at Deity was really helpful and I have to say, bent over backwards to help me so now, all is well. I like these mics so much that I now have two of them for recording different spaces at the same time and mic’ing two people or even crowds by setting two up, pointing at different targets and mixing in post, It is a tremendous microphone to be honest.

Great review! have been looking for a good mic to plug in my Rode Wireless Go for video use. It will be a D3 or D3 Pro still thinking, may have to toss a coin. Love the Hawaiian look from old blighty. What will the Americans think? A big thank you. Regards Kevin in Derbyshire UK.

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Both mics are really good. I really like the fact that their responses are tonally very even all around. I don't think Americans understand my accent, let alone the shirt!

love this

Thanks for the great review 😊 I just connected my brand new V-Mic D3 Pro to the back of the Zoom H4n ('EXT MIC' input) using the supplied TRRS cable. I turned on the Plugin-Power in the Zoom, turned on the microphone (green light is on). I'm trying to record, but nothing. No audio. I wonder if you know what did I do wrong with the Zoom... Thanks, Edo

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Edo. Try changing the cable from trrs to trs. Zoom wiring (according to Deity) isn’t the same in the newer Zooms, although my Rode has no problem at all. I contacted them about this issue a long time ago and that’s what Andrew told me. If you have a Rode mic, then use the Rode cable.

Around 4:15, you say the TRRS connector is incompatible with the Zoom H1n. Deity's page www.deitymic.com/v-mic-d3-pro/, under tab Camera Compatibility, explicitly states that it is compatible with the H1n, and they make a big deal out of the smart connector compatible with a large variety of devices. Are you sure it's incompatible? If so, have you contacted Deity about this discrepancy?

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. I did speak to one of the chief guys via email. He found the same and said that Zoom had altered something in their wiring arrangement of the h1n. I can’t for the life of me see why Zoom would have changed the wiring though. In fact, I recently used the lead again with the Zoom and it didn’t work and I assumed that I had a dead battery. The answer is use a normal TRS cable. An Update ..... got a new D3 pro and that works fine with the H1n! No idea what that was about .....

Nice review. Thank you.

Hello Ian. It's been 4 months since you use both of these microphones. Can you share your experience? Is the difference in sound as big as price? I still can not decide which one to buy.

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Dim. The one that I tend to go for is the cheaper D3. Reason being the inbuilt battery which can be changed on the fly without having to charge. Something else that I have never seen mentioned by others so may be just mine. My D3 pro loses power over a couple of months or so, even though it’s switched off. Always has me worrying what the power levels are. Yesterday, I had a piano concert to film. It was only a kiddies concert so rather than go the full Monty with close mic’d piano, I took the sound on just a shotgun into one camera about 3 feet away from the performers. I had two other cameras in order vary angles. I had intended to use the D3 pro, but it had gone flat so I used an SE Electronics Promic Laser instead. Personally, I flit between the two Deity mics, a Laser and a Senn mke600. Depends what I’m doing and which camera I use. However, I think I prefer the simplicity of the D3 because the gain quoted on the D3 pro is nothing like the same +20dB of the Rode Videomic pro+. That’s way louder. The gain of the D3 pro is the same as the d3 when set at around 6 or 7. That only leaves 3 more stops of gain, so it’s really not 20dB louder than the d3. It’s 20dB louder than whatever zero is which is way below the D3. Also ..... the D3 pro only automatically switches on when turned on into standby. After 15 minutes, it turns itself off completely so actually DOESN’T come on with the camera. The light is very dim and this is easily missed. The D3 goes on from being powered off because it has an internal battery that sees the camera connection. The D3 Pro doesn’t and it’s hard to see whether its on or off, so I don’t trust it! This is the worst aspect of the D3 pro which allows for mistakes to easily be made when you’re pressured. I would settle on the D3 myself and use the spare money for something else! Cheers Ian

@dimnevidim6433

5 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig Thank you so much for the advice. You have completely dispelled my doubts and I will buy D3 without worrying about regretting it

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

It’s a good mic, Dim. Just not as flashy as the pro. Had I have known, I’d have stayed with the D3 because the sound is almost identical and they have the same capsules. Also, there are more things I don’t like about the D3 pro than the D3. Sound isn’t much different. Not keen on the TRRS connection ‘trying’ to identify recorder. Goes completely off after 15 minutes of standby. You have to switch it on rather than plug ‘n play like the D3. The ‘on’ light is poor. Can’t see it in sun. No deadcat that fits other than my Rode Videomic Pro+ Battery runs down in storage. The 20dB gain is 20dB above (probably) -15dB. It’s nowhere near as loud as the Rode +20dB Noise is very slightly lower than D3 but it’s barely noticeacle. ...... and you save a lot of money!!

@dimnevidim6433

5 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig I am very glad that I asked you my questions. Only a true professional can distinguish really good item in terms of price and quality from the "marketing flagship”. I am very grateful for your help. I will follow your reviews

@dimnevidim6433

5 жыл бұрын

Ian, hello again! I bought deity d3 as you advised and I’m happy! great sound for a modest price. Thank you! Now I want to get Rode Go and a mic for it. Is this a good idea? I can’t make a choice: Rode smart lav+ or Deity v.lav? can you give advice?

Hi Ian, congrats for this video, very clear! Do you prefer D3 to videomic pro/videomicro? I'am already to buy a mic for my fuji xh1, and i have seen that this mic is automatical ready to run when the camera is ON, i think that it is perfect for me... but you... what you might say about this choice. Thank you so much :)

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Livio. I have the Rode VideomicPro+ and it sits in my drawer. There are things I like about it and things I really don’t, but overall, I most definitely prefer the sound of the Deity. The good things about the Rode .... massive gain. More than the Deity so of you have a very noisy preamp, the Rode really helps. The D3 pro is also quite loud, but not as much gain as the Rode. The Rode has a brilliant function where it can record a safety track. I wish Deity had done that. The Rode has switches on the back to ‘shape’ the sound but in all honesty, no one ‘shape’ has suited my voice that well. It works really well outdoors but I don’t like it indoors. The bass boost that it has and the treble roll off sounds bad when you have reverb in the room. Outdoors, that very bass boost helps audio further away! It kind of makes it sound closer. The back end of the Rode sounds poor so if I speak from the camera, I use a separate lav into a mini recorder. The Deity has a good overall sound. Nothing particularly stands out, so to some, it may seem a bit dull. That works for it in most situations, indoors, it’s not too boomy and outdoors, it still retains a nice presence. One thing about the Deity pro. You ALWAYS have to switch it on and leave it in standby for it to automatically switch on and off with the camera. Not so with the Rode or the ordinary D3. That means when you’ve finished filming, you forget to turn the mic off, although it self switches off after 15 minutes or so. Personally, I prefer the sound of the Deity over the Rode. It’s less closed in sounding. This may be more a matter of taste though, because the Rode is very good in its own way. Mine, as I have said, stays in a drawer! The videomicro has less bass than the Deity and is a bit sharper in the treble. Great value. Good sound but not quite up to Deity sound. I have one which I use with a GoPro. It has the kind of sound that pushes through rumble well and decent rear rejection too. The Micro is the best value but the Deity has a better sound, although if you listen on an ipad or something like that, you wouldn’t notice. I do on my TV. Deity sound is more refined and round than the micro, but the Micro is so cheap! Cheers Ian

@liviogaleotti1182

5 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig WoW, thank you for replay Ian!! So there's a difference among D3 and D3pro for their automatically run?! if i have got well: D3 basic when it is connected to the camera is just ready fo rec, instead for the D3 pro, you have to put ON the mic before and then it will turn off after few minutes?? is it this? I'm about to buy a mic almost exclusively to have that feature (run on/off together the camera) and the D3 basic i think that it is the only one which can give me this feature. Can you clear me this point? thank you so much Ian

@liviogaleotti1182

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe i was been not so clear, what I wanted to say is: i love the sound of the D3 basic and, for its price and its feature (run automatically with the camera) i prefer it among all model of mics of that price, but, i just wanted to know more about how that feature worked (automatically ON with camera) . i hope to have written much better than before

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

The D3 has a battery so when you plug in, it immediately turns itself on. When you disconnect, it goes off. The D3 Pro has an interal rechargable battery but has to be ‘switched on’ first before you use it. It goes into standby and when you switch the camera on, the switches on. When you switch the camera off, the mic goes into standyby again for 15 minutes and then switches itself off. I thought that was a bit tricky if you’re out filming and the worst aspect of the D3pro. Yet the best aspect of the D3! Both have the same capsule but the pro as more gain and the high pass filter. Also by the way. That lead they supply and make a big deal over with regards to recognising whatever device it’s plugged into is also another nuisance. It doesn’t work with Zoom recorders and they don’t supply a TRS which actually DOES work. Deity know about it and I let them know, but they aren’t willing to put a lead in with their packages because the claim not to be selling enough to warrant this. In my opinion, if Comica can supply multiple leads at such a low price for their mics, then why can’t Deity; eapecially as I see the price has crept up recently! They are both great mics but there are three issues..... a) the TRRS lead only with no TRS. (Just mean in my opinion) b) no deadcat and they both need one. (They are a slightly odd fit/size) c) the turning on/off of the D3 pro is different to the D3..... why? I have no clue! So in all honesty, I think the D3 is a better buy, even though it doesn’t have the gain of the pro because you won’t accidentally forget to switch the mic on in the first place. That might be the Achilles Heel of the Pro and Deity don’t seem to be listening with regards to the leads anyway...... The quiet price increase might have been justified if they suppled a lead!

Hi Ian i just got a Deity d3 and because it is powered by a AAA 1.5 volt battery i thought it would work with any camcorder, but when i plugged it into my 2 camcorders it did not work . I think it needs plug in power feature, if i use a cable trrs to trs do you know if it works? Thank you for your help greetings from USA.

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Andretta. Try changing the lead to a normal TRS like the Rode leads. I had the same issue. I did suggest that they sell it with two leads. Just like my d3 pro issue, they took no notice. The D3 is a great mic though. Mine comes on and goes off but I never use the supplied lead. I think that was a daft idea as well. After all, Rode managed it without that lead and I don’t know why the primary lead would be one for a phone. The lav is the same.

@Andretta83040

5 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig i did try with an audio cable that is trs on both ends but it doesn't work!!!

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

It does need power coming from the camera. The battery is only there to detect when the camera comes on. At least, that’s how I think it works. I’m not impressed by Deity customer service so good luck if you mention it to them. Take a look at what happened with me and a D3 pro in my first comment above. Basically, as a result, I won’t be buying anything else from Deity until they change their attitude. There are other companies out there. It could be that your camera is not supplying power. Take a look in its menu to see if mic powering is off perhaps?

@Andretta83040

5 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig sunday i will go to B&H in New York City if they can't solve the problem i will return it. ( my camcorders don't have plug in power! ) :-( THANK YOU for your help.

They don't sound different... D3 wins due to price! But how do these compare to onboard audio? Honestly, I can't say definitively these 'add-on' mics would be any different than the onboard mics... (???)

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

There are subtle differences which become more noticeable with longer use; probably due to the longer tube of the pro. Also, the pro has two high pass filters and a gain control. Do you think ‘on board’ mics of cameras are as good as these? Really? Wow! You must have a great camera. My onboard mics pic up my breathing, hand movements, the focusing and zoom mechanism and sound from all around because they’re not as directional as these two. You’re the only person I’ve seen so far that prefers on board mics!! Have you just started in video?

Good job..

Fucking great chairs

Thank you for this informative video. Can I have your rode mic? Lol 😂

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Aha. You must be a regular if you know about my Rode! Thanks for watching! 😉

Don't the Deity D3 work with Zoom H1n?? Is it need change thr cable?

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

It needs a TRS connection. Funny thing that the TRRS cable supplied is fine with my Sony cameras but not the Zooms, TRS works with them all like a more ‘normal’ microphone. Personally, I don’t particularly care about this ‘connectivity’ that they advertise. I’m perfectly happy with a TRS.

@109eh

5 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig do you think this Deity D3 (not the pro version) is better than rode videomic go or rode videomicro? All these mics are the same price to me

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. Without a doubt. The Videomic Go is OK until you get near a phone or anything airborne. It basically hums or buzzes at every oportunity and can’t be relied on. For that reason, I would never use the videomic Go. I had one and ruined a few videos before I found out. Rode seem to go into denial when it’s mentioned. I wrote to them about it and they responded with a polite, general kind of response, telling me that they’d pass it on to their engineers, as if they didn’t already know! I also have a videomicro. It lacks bass by comparison and is also quite strong in the treble. However, I would rather have the micro than the Go. Rode should take the Go off the market imo because it does their reputation no good. Both Deity mics use the same capsule. They are more even throught their range. Good rejection and more important for me, the rejection is more ‘even’ with the sound not altering too much in timbre so it is a proper kind of rejection at most frequencies. Many don’t reject bass too well so the sound goes fat and boomy from behind. This works against you if there are cars behind you! The VideomicPro+ does this big time so if I everuse mine, I keep the high pass switched in permanently. Both of these are more even all round. Some might find them perhaps a little dull in comparison to other mics, but that is often because other mics have a treble hump in their response and people are more accustomed to hearing that in mics. (Headphones do a similar thing in the bass) The D3 is an excellent buy. The Pro, less value for money but there are high pass filters on board and the variable gain. At high gain, it is more sensitive than the D3. In fact, the D3 and Pro version match in terms of sensitivity when the Pro is set at volume 5. So in reality, it gives 10dB more than the D3 but also goes lower for louder sounds, which is where they get their 20dB. I use both the D3 and the D3 pro. D3 with my GoPro and the Pro version with my other cameras.

@109eh

5 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig I don't have much money. I use Canon cameras and I'm starting to film events and weddings. Do you think that I buy the D3 now and it would be able to fulfill my needs well? Or I wait more and get more money to buy the D3 pro? Thanks for your help and sorry my English

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Tech Reviews , usted escribe en ingles muy bien. Yo le intiendo no problema. The D3 standard mic would suit your purposes quite well. In weddings and events, you often don’t have time to play around with controls. Having said that, you are using a Canon and from what I’ve heard, they have noisy preamps so if you are producing videos for commercial purposes, the extra gain of the pro would help to knock the hiss down. Or you might need a preamp under the camera as well. If it’s just for fun though, then the standard d3 would be fine. Just one thing for weddings ...... it can be very useful and improve quality massively if you have the bride and groom wear lavalier mics into a separate recorder. One of those mini things - I reviewed one a few months ago which is excellent. With any shotgun; especially in church, the mic will pick up a lot of acoustic; even if it’s a pro mic. I use a Sennheiser shotgun and even that will sound awful at ten feet away in a church and not great in rooms.

What camera are you using Ian?

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

I used two Sony cameras. Cheapos. Cx450 and a cx625. Both camcorders.