I remember helping load up the model used for the DS9 Trials and Tribblations episode.

@maximilianokingston7304

3 жыл бұрын

You prolly dont care but if you are stoned like me atm then you can watch all the new series on Instaflixxer. Been binge watching with my girlfriend these days :)

@piercenikolai4551

3 жыл бұрын

@Maximiliano Kingston yup, been watching on Instaflixxer for years myself :)

@thehillbillygamer2183

2 жыл бұрын

Star Trek Discovery is not in the same universe as the original series deep space nine TNG Voyager it's in the same universe as Enterprise and the reason the Klingons and Discovery look like they do is because of the augments it turns out that there was a bad outbreak on the Klingon homeworld and 90% of the population was infected more than 90% kicking back this to Klingons was able to try to get some fossilized Neanderthal Klingon DNA and it turned the ones that used it that they used it on most of the military and the ones that would have contact with aliens it worked and made up but it made them look like the discovery Klingons but it made all the females in fertile there's a civil war and a struggle for power and then Neanderthal Klingons killed all the most of the augment Klingons and even most of the elite Klingons and they interbred with the augment females because their females were infertile and that's where war from the modern Klingons come from third part Neanderthal part augment with a little bit of real Klingon thrown in there that's what makes the modern Noble houses Noble because they're the last ones that's got that original Klingon DNA that's not a mix of augment and Klingon neanderthal this is a terrible secret it was like a Klingon Holocaust they don't tell no other race no alien can know war didn't even know about it until his brother Kern told him on the Enterprise d

I can’t wait to see an episode on the Tribble / Klingon wars. I just want to see a Tribble platoon fully equipped and armed.

K7 is sooooooooo 1960's that SCREAMS: EGGHEADS!

@Jack_Stafford

5 жыл бұрын

I think it screams "modular and functional!"

@Zarcondeegrissom

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed Dale, no need to have a structure that invites the risk of repeating the "de Havilland Comet disaster", lol.

@Jack_Stafford

5 жыл бұрын

@@Zarcondeegrissom I'm aware of the de Havilland comet having some dependability issues, I believe because the engines referred into the wings, but I'm not sure I get your reference completely. But I am an aviation fan as well! I love a lot of the weird planes, especially the ones that came from behind the Iron Curtain. It's almost like that's how they kept their population under control, how many failures they had in the Soviet Union!

@Zarcondeegrissom

5 жыл бұрын

the comet was the first 'Jet' passenger aircraft, it also had square windows that concentrated pressurization stress in the corners of the window frames, resulting in catastrophic failure of the airframe in flight. That's why the round shape of the station parts, to reduce points of concentrated stress. Von Braun knew what he was doing, despite many saying it's an "old outdated style that needs to die", lol. kzread.info/dash/bejne/kXaO0NBuf7zJcsY.html

@subraxas

5 жыл бұрын

@Dale Stafford I think it rather screams: "I am so old, outdated and obsolete.... please Discovery, re-design and retcon me!!!" :-D

I wonder if station K7 had any K9s on board? 🐶🐺🐕

One of my favorite Federation installations. In my opinion it HAS to be armed, considering how close it is to the Klingon border.

I don't see why it has to be armed. It could be defended by the local fleet. As an analogy: a port in the real world is unlikely to have weapons on it in peace time but the military would respond to defend it if it was threatened. In-fact having a heavily armed station close to the Klingon boarder might be seen as an act of aggression.

Ah, those glorious days of the great tribble hunt...

Any station would need to be at least _slightly_ armed when it came to things like Rogue meteors or a space ship disaster that was sending shrapnel its way or an unknown and likely dangerous space anomaly on a collision course, but only for defensive purposes. Deck count should go by rows of windows so I trust the 35, since screen Canon is always primary Canon. Also may be roughly the size of a constitution, but remember it has no need for warp cores or warp engines to all of that internal volume is it needed for engineering and is recaptured for human use. I think this was the first time I heard the captain talk in feet, because he said that a landing deck was 8 1/2 ft tall, which I don't think could be quite right since that's just about a foot taller then Saru. ;) *EDIT: the captain just misspoke, previous episodes said eight and a half _metres_ which Is clearly what he meant.

Always liked this Station. I guess aside from basic shielding it would have some weapons to destroy incomming space debris. Keep the good stuff comming guys!

Great episode. I especially like the reference to the Douglas Aircraft moon base concept as a model 7:57! I do wish the STD information had not been incorporated. The only flaw in an otherwise wonderful piece.

Not only should it be armed, but it should have armed shuttle (fighter) escort patrols in an outer perimeter around the clock. Trek doesn't really do fighters or armed shuttles, especially TOS era, but to keep the station safe, since it's a stationary target, tugs, security patrols, maint bots, etc would be nice.

@TheCastellan

5 жыл бұрын

Neither did Wing Commander, and other stuff. Freighters often were like declawed kitties.

I just had a novel idea on how this could have been built. I don't see it being built in place because with no planets in the area moving supplies, personnel and equipment to build it would be big ordeal. My idea is it was built in parts at a central location if you look at the saucer parts I could see them being built and sticking a warp drive system on them and just warping the sections to the location. It doesn't need to travel as fast as a modern ship of the time even if it took a year to get the sections in position that would still be faster the building them completely in place. This would make for some cool animations of them. The tubes to the outer sections would be a perfect location for warp nacelles.

The outer saucers only make sense as weapons platforms, each defending 1/3rd of a spherical area surrounding the center column and saucer.

I greatly enjoyed seeing my K7 Spacedock variation design from Star Trek Animated comics. Also I am not sure if you have seen the Image of the original K7 model behind the scenes image released by Michael Okuda.

They really kind of altered the original design in the remaster, the edges of the saucers are much sharper than the very rounded almost puffy looking edges on the original. I have no problem with a remaster giving things more detail, but this really changes structural elements of the station, rather than adding more detail to them, it changes _existing_ details. The original actually made a little more sense in that it would have provided for more interior volume with less pointy edges to the saucers...

I think you would also need phasers for asteroids and other space debris

Great video guys!!!

First of all, all stations of this type should be "armed" for the simple reason that it doesn't maneuver well. (Things do travel through space and even if detected at a distance you can't call for a star ship every time you detect an interstellar object on collision course.) The real question is the level of the armament. It needs to be so equipped as to annoy anyone stupid enough to attack it until a proper federation star ship can come to its rescue. However the biggest advantage is that the station is so far out there that it's not worth the bother to go to it to get outdated equipment.

Nice Video guys!

Nice review Cap & Commander. Thanks for the info!

The original K7 design was not designed by Matt Jefferies. It was a model that NASA lent to Gene Rodenberry and was greebled up to look as it did in the original episode.

It's quite a unique looking thing

In Star Trek Online ther anothor space station in this type. I Drozana system (Ferengi owned it).

@MarkLLawrence

5 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the ill-fated K-13

🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and form provided to you on this subject matter and format on the K-7 space station and on all of its variations and designs on its various functions in service and so forth indeed!,👌.

Welcome to K-7 Now Go Home! As seen in the docking bay.

When I got my original model, many years ago, it came with a tiny enterprise that looked as though it could fit in the bottom hanger module. If the original NCC 1701 could fit, conservatively, in the hanger deck, what the scale of K-7 would be.

@stltrekmodels.4157

Жыл бұрын

In that AMT model the tiny Enterprise was around 1/6400 scale, so it was assumed that the station was that same scale, but it was about 1/850 or so. The 1/650 scale 18" Enterprise is to large in scale, but the 1/1000 scale is to small for that model. I am working on 3D printed 1/200 scale models of both.

Flyby render looks great

I wish I could have attached the image here but it reveals never before seen details that alters all versions of the design.

Good show.

My favourite space station of all time

The way I see it, the Klingon War happened in a different universe than TOS! BTW K-7 is my favorite space station design in all of Star Trek!

@khartog01

5 жыл бұрын

The Klingon/Fed did happen but not like it's shown in STD. The tensions between Starfleet and the Klingons is due to to the war. If I remember correctly, the Constitution class was key to the Federation victory against the Klingons.

I like that they did the Ds9 episode with this :)

Why do ships always seem to orbit K7 in opposite rotation?

Curious as to why ships orbited the station rather than just park/hold positions relative to it?

@PsychoStreak

5 жыл бұрын

This would have been before the more universal docking systems that came along after this station and Enterprise were built. Not the magical folding forcefield bridges of Disco, but something more like on a DSRV. Also, orbiting and beaming or shuttling over would be less dangerous for all involved as almost every species visiting would have their own docking protocols that could easily be screwed up, causing a collision. Compounding that would be different computer systems in different languages and systems of measurement for speed and distance that would all need translating to assure a safe docking. By having ships in orbit, all that is avoided as visiting ships can adjust to their transporter ranges or just an easily translated standard distance of say 5 kilometers. You also gain the ability to host a greater number of ships that way, as opposed to at most three D-7 to Connie sized vessels if they dock to each of the arms, and that would be a tight fit for the Connies.

K7. The series

How many security personnel are stationed on the station?

I hope they got rid of all the tribbles.

Love that station,... It looks like an upside-down 1950s dining room chandelier,...

Would be a nice place to live

1) It could depend on where these type stations are located. If they're located well within Federation borders, then maybe no weapons are necessary. But if they're on the periphery, then why would you not arm it? There are enemy nations, pirates, terrorists, and unknowns out in space that could easily destroy lone stations long before help arrives. Plus why would you tie a starship or fleet movements near this small station when they could be out doing what they were built for? I think all stations should have weapons and drone defense perimeter. Even an approach perimeter where if anything on sensors starts coming for you and doesn't identify itself, reinforcements are immediately called in. They'll arrive after the enemy ships do, and that's what the station's weapons are for in the meantime. 2) Even if these type stations are located well within Federation borders, the reality of a) just how vast and empty outer space really is and b) cloaking devices may make borders too porous to defend adequately. Again, do you really want random pirates or terrorists to attack a defenseless station when the nearest ship in the fleet could be hours or days away? A bird-of-prey might not decloak over Earth without a fleet sent to Romulus in response but one could take out a defenseless station leaving everyone to point uncertain fingers every which way. And if I were an Orion pirate, I'd loot a station, leave behind some Romulan fingerprints, and let the larger powers play games while I planned my retirement on Risa.

Discovery Klingons captured and used all the stations they attacked. Which makes sense. Why would you destroy an asset when you can use it?

I never understood why Klingons would be using a Federation facility in Federation space.

No interior views?

watch out for Tribble there

Why are you including Discrappery into this?

Are you guys going to redo some of your older ship episodes?

@SGUDistantHope

5 жыл бұрын

yes :) 1080HD better presentation, new renders, new animations and any new info that has come up!

@agerothn

5 жыл бұрын

@@SGUDistantHope Awesome!

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It should be armed at least for self defense.

How do we know the station wasn't destroyed and rebuilt in primary canon?

@andycooper6085

5 жыл бұрын

Time and resources

i've given up on discovery and i do not consider it cannon any more than abrams

@darthXreven

5 жыл бұрын

agreed.....STD & JJ-Verse are the Sh**t dimensions....call em pig sh**t and donkey sh**t universes lolz I wish JJ Abrams Battle Tank would drop dead.....well he invoked my wrath lolz

@seanoneill9606

3 жыл бұрын

@@darthXreven OK...

DAYUM, no texturing back then lol.

So modern CBS modifies 'K7' with a 'Toroidal ring' around it one day > (in the 'STD' Reimagining's & Rewrites) and then call it the 'CIRCLE-K' LoloL!!!

HELLO GUYS,, PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE SIZE OF THE SHIPS IN STARTREK. 03-02-2019.

Unless its a STD ship, just ignore STD like ignoring Abrams. Its not worth your effort. Otherwise, great video.

Stop trying to make sense of STD. STD IS NOT taking place in the same timeline as TOS. The "Prime" universe is NOT the TOS universe. It's Kelvin timelines version of TOS. In short TOS is one Universe, Kelvin is a another Universe and Prime is yet another. Midnight's edge explains it all very well.

Stop taking STD as canon. It is not.