Thanks for playing one of our riffs! In great company amongst bands old and new.

@ThomasHogue

2 жыл бұрын

Whoa! Always geeks me out when a video actually reaches the band. Thanks for the killer music 🤗

@tylerwilson531

2 жыл бұрын

Yoo! just saw y'all live in Seattle on Sunday. Never really listened to you guys much, but you put on one HELL of a show!

@vancestanfield

2 жыл бұрын

Ya'll are so awesome I love graveside confessions.

@J.S.McDuff

2 жыл бұрын

You guys had the best breakdown on this list by far!

@MM-nw3dn

2 жыл бұрын

Dude what an honor to have the band be like yo! Good shit! That’s gnar! Carnifex you guys are mad influential and have some shreddy licks hope to hear more soon

New Lorna Shore and Shadow of Intent stuff is phenomenal. Maybe not textbook deathcore but I love whatever genre they are pushing into/defining.

@claydarnell9350

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree im an 80s baby and still agree that new deathcore is better

@benjaminbovay10

2 жыл бұрын

The Symph/blackened Deathcore is the new direction for the near future I think

@zacharyedmond8223

2 жыл бұрын

I know that style as Blackened Deathcore

@joshuapilger8430

2 жыл бұрын

It is very apparent in the vocal styling. Listen to gravesigner and compair it to dimmu borgir. A lot of vocal similarities.

@claydarnell9350

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuapilger8430 dimmu is just a lil bit in the wrong direction but thats just me slaughter to prevail and lorna are my favs right now

2005-2009 was a great era for deathcore

@MrDragonkarp

Жыл бұрын

2003-2009 was an amazing era of metal

@cheezz0

9 ай бұрын

Best Album?

@jonbaxter4285

9 ай бұрын

Deathcore certainly peaked in the 2000s

@pastaduce2704

Ай бұрын

​​@@cheezz0The Cleansing by Suicide Silence. That album perfectly captured the deathcore sound

@CHANGEUSERNAMEr6

28 күн бұрын

1994-2001 was a great era of kidcore

I CAN'T be the only one that went "What the FUCK" when he played Lie to my Face and actually did the break

@jacobtridef48

2 жыл бұрын

I did the entire vocal section in my head, including the “what the fuck”😂 it’s hard not to.

@NihonNoMajin

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobtridef48 Best part! 😂

@isabellarocks1000

2 жыл бұрын

I was low key hoping another him would run up in the background and yell what the fuck.

@faenorblack6943

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. This video brought back great memories with those old songs

@whitezetsu3450

2 ай бұрын

That used to be my ringtone

Dude that last clip killed me 😂 fuckin excellent job though. Would love to see another of these, maybe with some AHFW, Oceano, The Faceless, Ingested etc.

@Thischarletfire

2 жыл бұрын

What about As Blood Runs Black: In Dying Days

@matthewtE

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thischarletfire Give a listen to Equipoise and Enigma - Stars Missaligned

@reeree488

Жыл бұрын

@@ICANSEEDEADHORIZONS theyre slamcore with deathcore and gore/pornogrind elements

@griffinchapman7835

Жыл бұрын

Need some Faceless riffs in my life ASAP

0:49 Brooo you nailded the Demolisher riff asfuuuuck!

Into the hellfire is alright but nothing beats the line in this is exile where Phil goes This world is ours. Such an iconic line. I get goosebumps still to this day

It seems like more modern deathcore is getting back to its death metal roots. I fucking love it

Something I'm noticing when you're putting these two versions of deathcore side by side is how technical the genre has gotten over the years. Hell, some of those riffs in the modern version would've been classified as "technical deathcore" back in like 2008 - 2011 but are now considered as "standard riffs" haha. I can't help to get nostalgic when I hear those classic riffs that I grew up with. Being 13 and blasting Entombment of a Machine along with Knee Deep in my old Koss headphones was the shit back in the day. Still remember how mind blown I was by Suicide Silence when The Cleansing came out in 2007/2008. Good ol times!

@Sergio-nb4hj

2 жыл бұрын

The reason why the old stuff was almost never technical is because it came from the hardcore scene. Modern deathcore pulls more from death metal and modern metalcore (which is also divorced from its hardcore roots) Whether that's a good thing or not depends on whether you prefer metal or hardcore I think

@bcepni00

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sergio-nb4hj Old Deathcore sounds more similar to Death metal to me. At least if we’re talking OSDM. And timeline wise, that makes more sense. Should be noted that theyre’s a significant difference between death metal and tech-death.

@ThatShitGood

2 жыл бұрын

Lol what?😂😂 Like 90% of today's deathcore is just either numetal with heavier breakdowns or meshuggah with gutturals (aside from very few band), 2000's was the years were deathcore still had it's hardcore punk, grindcore and death metal influences. they used 2 steps, gang chants, hardcore shouts and real death metal riffs, and not to mention how boring, stale and overproduced the productions have gotten. Compare "The Boy Will Drown" to 90% of modern deathcore bands and tell me how deathcore is gotten more technical.

@ThatShitGood

2 жыл бұрын

@@bcepni00 thank god, someone finally understands.

@Sergio-nb4hj

2 жыл бұрын

@@bcepni00 OSDM? I think you're right if you mean the production (poppy snares, raw chainsaw guitars, etc.) But i don't hear it beyond that. Even with the more hardcore-infused NY scene in mind

thank you for the pigs man, it made me genuinely laugh which is something i don't do enough of these days

I would love to see a then vs now on Whitechapel. From the Somatic Defilement to Kin. I feel like their sound has changed over the years drastically.

@eluherrahaz1165

2 жыл бұрын

Man I miss somatic defilement times.

@DamonOfHouseFL

2 жыл бұрын

@@eluherrahaz1165 So do I, So do I...

@Mirozenx

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they got shit

@slashfan091

2 ай бұрын

@@DamonOfHouseFLPhil stated theyre going for a this is exile/somatic defilement sound for the new album

Death metal back then vs now? Death's Symbolic album ( basically all their albums too) have aged like fine wine.

@ThomasHogue

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Death metal then vs now definitely on the horizon

Sick arrangement, man! You two sounded great!

@ThomasHogue

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🤘

Entombment of a Machine (and Job for a Cowboy in general) is the pinnacle of deathcore, to me. I remember being blown away by the sheer brutality and virtuosity of that band as a kid. It could be crushingly heavy and sludgy, mindblowingly fast, amazingly melodic, and even surprisingly beautiful, all in the same song. I don't hate modern deathcore, but the genre has definitely trended away from the melodic side into a depth of slow, drawn out brutality (both in heaviness and in over-technicality) that comes across as just plain emotionally unhealthy in the worst examples. I don't hate it, but I'd choose the old over the new most times. You chose some excellent examples of where deathcore shines, then and now, though!

@benstanfill363

2 жыл бұрын

That's why I started to move away from death core. It's either needlessly technical or just so slow and drawn out. I want to jam and its just not where its at.

@burningbelow4424

11 ай бұрын

When I seen Job for a cowboy at warped tour in 2010 I was blown away they were phenomenal and are still the Pinnacle of deathcore in my eyes. And I'm not a big fan of deathcore but damn gotta give it away to Job for a cowboy! 🤘🏼

Great video! Hopefully we can get a Death Metal then vs Now video. This video has some of my favorite riffs in Deathcore.

Great battle ! Killer playing and awesome guitars !

@ThomasHogue

2 жыл бұрын

The man himself! Much appreciated 🤘

One of my favorite, and sadly underlooked, parts of 00s deathcore/metalcore was the standout interludes trend that bands starting putting on their albums as a response to the lack of musicianship criticisms. Some are still my favorite songs to this day: Halcyon - The Acacia Strain Dry Ice - Emmure Pouring Reign - As Blood Runs Black Fifteen Fathoms, Counting - BMTH Jhazmyne's Lullaby - 7A7P Worlds & Dreams - Misery Signals

@TheAlex4019

2 жыл бұрын

You can add La Chupacabra-Burning the Masses

@DennisFeinsteinCEO

2 жыл бұрын

7A7P and Misery Signals are God tier...

@jacksonislegend

2 жыл бұрын

Misery Signals is in my opinion, the greatest melodic metalcore band of the 2000's. 7A7P was awesome too.

@ThatShitGood

2 жыл бұрын

The album "Fetish" from "The Boy Will Drown" definitely needs a mention, heaviest deathcore album I've ever heard

@I3urton

2 жыл бұрын

All Shall Perish - Memories of a glass sanctuary comes to mind.

Hahah loved the lorna shore part! Man i replay your videos like crazy, especially metal evolution! You and joão medeiros is basically the only thing i need on youtube.

@ThomasHogue

2 жыл бұрын

A man of culture!

I love all of it and have been happy to watch the genre grow 🤘🏽

I love those videos, please go on like this!

One thing I gotta say is I really love the new wave of Deathcore bands. Also how the previous gen has evolved. Great showcase of guitar skills here. Thanks

Amazing video again! That LTD is something else, so beautiful

Awseome video ! Each time i'm amazed by your playing and how many riff you can nail ! Also love the interaction between the "Then" and "Now" Thomas it's rly fun !

@vindicies7399

2 жыл бұрын

Architects is auch a nice band^^

@mattreynierberger7529

2 жыл бұрын

@@vindicies7399 Not a fan of their newer stuff but yep I really like some of their albums !

Man just so good you never cease to amaze me 😍

I’m def a metal snob. This was a really fun video. Deathcore doesn’t do much for me at home - but at a live show it’s super fun and I always bang out. You gave me a lot to look into…. That is if I can ever get away from OSDM lol. Thanks for the fun video!

I will say the breakdowns in today's deathcore are absolutely insane and also the vocalist have more techniques than a guitarist 🤣 older deathcore was more of a faster heavy sound which made you wanna jump off the walls. I love both either way

This was awesome.

🔥🔥🔥 More of this please👌

that was ssick!!!brutal guitars, very well played. good work bro!!

this was just one jam sesh thanks for that

I was expecting a joke when Lorna started and boy did it hit hard, absolute perfection. So glad I found this channel today, thanks to TheSuffocator (Collab.) ♡

Awesome trip back to my younger days and some of the bangers from recently, pigs cracked me up great vid

best genre

2005-2012 was the peak of deathcore

THE PIG VIDEOS WITH THE LORNA SHORE BREAKDOWN! I AM DEAD!

Dude you killed me with that ending, GREAT JOB 🤣🤣

It's all amazing 🔥🤘🏽

Most badass video I’ve seen this year, nice fucking shit man

6:00 Damn I didn't know Will Ramos would be in this video! You should put that in the title!

Subscribed for the last clip alone

Dude!,. Your tones are SIC!!!!! very nice, excellent playing!!!

I Love it 🔥🔥🔥🤘😈🤘🔥🔥🔥 Good job Thanks

This sounds amazing

You're so insanely skilled!

So glad i stuck around to the end to see the piggy pals. Reaaly cool to do the breakdown vs breakdown like that too.

Most of those 00’s were my formative secondary school years in the UK. We had a small group that listened to various types of metal from Deathcore to Thrash to Industrial etc, but Deathcore was what was round at the time

@mattsaunders5033

2 жыл бұрын

Same its was fun times for the scene

great sound brotherr🔥🤘

This must've been an incredible amount of work!

You have good taste for guitars man, i love them!

Dude. This was so great. I had an absolute blast watching this video. We could be besties.

Always love these side by sides - great work. How long does it typically take you to put one of these together?

@ThomasHogue

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! This took about two weeks (in between day job and all that ha)

both pretty good ! i love death/deathcore in almost all it's forms !

I like this series!🤘🔥

Reading through the comments, still seems a great divide between the old and the new. I enjoy the modern, as most have said, it has become a lot more technical. I still love the older catchier death core days. I was fully into that scene and genre at the time. Something about it still holds up strong in my opinion. I also do not know what it is, but I find myself going back to the older albums of my favorite bands vs the newer. Not all but most.

Awesome vide man 🤟 would love to see some old the red shore stuff compared to newer bangers 🤟🤟🤟

Fucking great skills man for real

Kind of shocked that a deathcore riffs video didnt include As Blood Runs Black, im in to more modern deathcore/thall (Brand of Sacrifice, Fit For An Autopsy, Humanity's Last Breath) but Allegiance is a riff wet dream front to back

@troybag3604

2 жыл бұрын

ABRB is more metalcore, but they are great

Subbed 🤘🏻 so sick man!

@ThomasHogue

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I've always loved that Ken Susi guitar. It's looks awesome. 🤘

Here I am thinking I’ll enjoy this tier list video on deathcore, come to find this doood is licking it all himself 🐐 good stuff

that Schecter apocalypse in rusty grey is a beauty!! Killer playing my dude

@ThomasHogue

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

This is Exile into To the Hellfire is a nice touch. Good work

Killer as always...

Hi! New sub! Great vid! Although I'm a little sad All Shall Perish and Through the Eyes of the Dead didn't make the list. Especially TTEOTD. They're were one of the first modern deathcore bands. You could even throw The Red Chord in there. They were Kate 90's. Great stuff though!

@ThomasHogue

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! The hardest part of these is always picking the bands/songs ha. I had ASP and red chord on the list but didn’t end up getting to them. Maybe a round 2!

@breathelife662

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThomasHogue we are waiting for the round 2!

@Joshua-ww1fz

2 жыл бұрын

Yep - was waiting for Two Inches from a Main Artery to show up. Maybe next time!

@jonathanolson1185

2 жыл бұрын

@@Joshua-ww1fz damn that was such an epic beginning to and epic album. That album blew my socks off when I first heard it. The follow up with the new vocalist and actually still is an amazing album also.

Un excelente trabajo es una manera de esrudiar, estilos sin estar horas escuchando discos enteros ,una labor inmemsurable la que haces, gracias

Awesome

Generally I prefer the older stuff but to the hellfire is probably my overall favorite deathcore song.

@thelittleowl1

2 жыл бұрын

It’s only listening to the instrumental I realised how brutal that is.

@cardinalcopia2762

2 жыл бұрын

Same 🤘

@kirisutegomen12

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like it is overrated tbh

@2174863

2 жыл бұрын

@@kirisutegomen12 Agreed, there's way better bands imo

@ThatShitGood

2 жыл бұрын

@@kirisutegomen12 absolutely, you can find a ridiculous amount of MySpace Deathcore/early 10's breakdowns that are heavier than to the hellfire by miles, "The wolf" by fit for an autopsy is a good example.

Always great to hear some old Thy Art. I get their old vocalist was a bit of a dick but that album still slaps.

@maxr.k.pravus9518

2 жыл бұрын

what did he do

@AnimosityIncarnate

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxr.k.pravus9518 it's the lyrics lol

Hasn’t change much and I love it 🤘🏽😡🤘🏽

Both are great 😁

I wish this video was wayyyy longer!

that last lorna shore riff was fucking sick, never really got into them when I was in my deathcore era but i might give em a shot now

*both are great. and probably the best taste in deathcore to display*

Hahahahaha why you gotta do Will Ramos dirty like that? Great video btw!!

Great showcase of the genre has grown. Little sad at no ASP tho, they really defined the early 2000s for me. All your picks were great tho i dont wanna sound disrespectful lol

@ThomasHogue

2 жыл бұрын

Had ASP on the list but ran out of slots haha. Maybe for next round! And I agree the newer stuff is noticeably more sophisticated which is cool

@Turbo_Toad

2 жыл бұрын

Asp def had some of the best riffs in deathcore hands down

@Lupine.

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, something from PoE

new sub

BAHAHAHAHAHA! The fucking pigs! I'M DEAD, dude. Amazing as always

nothing beats suicide silence early 2000s for me

Man i remember back in the early days of deathcore it got a lot of hate from death metal elitists for being "too simplistic" "breakdown heavy" and "boring". Nowadays the genre has some of the most innovative bands in all of metal.

@katyungodly

2 жыл бұрын

As a deathcore musician, I must say that the criticisms definitely echo in the back of my mind every time I'm writing a riff. It has driven me to attempt to avoid everything deathcore stereotypically is and make everything more melodic and technical. That's just me though, can't speak for what inspired the other modern musicians far greater than I 💗

@the_BattleGoose

2 жыл бұрын

My biggest issue with Deathcore these days is everyone rips off of the biggest thing that hits. Lately I've noticed a LOT of Lorna Shore copy cats and it sucks. Lorna Shore is cool when Lorna Shore does it. It's boring when everyone else does it. At least Shadow of Intent is still cool.

@SorceressWitch

Жыл бұрын

I am a fan of death metal and like deathcore too. Some people just want to exclude it from metal but I never got into elitism. One problem in metal community is seeing music as a competition and thinking that your type of music is superior to others. I just like music and be open minded. People say the same about metalcore, claiming that they take no skill and yet I guarantee that these elitists can't play the songs they hate on. I think metal community has the most judgemental people in it. So many rude assholes who would rather keep people out than be inviting to newcomers.

I like this

Awesome to see how much better bands have gotten ☺️

WE-NEED-EIGHTEEN-VISIONS (please) btw excellent work!

We need "Make Them Suffer !!!"

Killer riffing! Those pig squeals had me dying 😂

Damm dude. Wills gunna get u for those damn 🐖s. Also didnt know fit for an autopsy had new stuff out. Sounds great.thanks

as much as i love the chugs, it always blows my mind when bands manager to fit higher-pitched melodies in between them

I'm honestly only hear to hear what song you chose from JFAC's DOOM album. Wish you would have picked something other than entombment of a machine there are some amazing songs on there! You guys killed it though!

I fell in love with the genre in that era and am still in love with the modern deathcore. Some bands even added a black metal touch that suits perfectly. Music evolution is beautiful

Those harmonics on that Shadow of Intent song are 👌

The bar for successful heavy music has been brought so high lately. I love it.

lol Those pigs, that was freakin' epic sir

Absolutely a Nostalgia trip... Was like going through my entire life in metal lol

This is my first video watching you. I am a metalhead who is 38 and has listened to various different genres of metal since 1997. 🤘 I think it’s super sick that Carnifex commented lol! You rock bro, I look forward to more videos. Edit: RIP Mitch 🖤🙏🤘 I would vote the left side all day 😊

@ThomasHogue

Жыл бұрын

That was definitely cool! Glad you liked it, thanks for watching

@ChrisJones-yu9rz

Жыл бұрын

@@ThomasHogue Rock on man. It was later yesterday when I saw this video, and I gave a sub, so I’m gonna watch a few more. 🤘 thanks for the reply, and keep rockin!

All of the guitars in this video are top tier!!! \m/

Was hoping to see some Impending Doom as well. this band has always released solid music.

@orangejews150

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't really call them deathcore

@mehrank6880

2 жыл бұрын

@@orangejews150 what would you call them?

@The_Real_Frisbee

2 жыл бұрын

@@orangejews150 What? They're 100% deathcore.

@orangejews150

2 жыл бұрын

@@The_Real_Frisbee they always sounded death metal to me

@Kohaui

2 жыл бұрын

@@mehrank6880 death metal

I love how a lot of these 0's bands have evolved and (imho) define the modern deathcore sound

You forgot beneath the massacre, boo, winds of plague, abrb, and the uabb demos, those were the golden days of deathcore

Lol - that made me laugh. Excellent job

A severe lack of The Red Chord

Dude, the pigs were icing on the cake 😂