#TeamNoStatsClamp 😬

@wackymuffin

10 ай бұрын

i wish you could turn it off or turn it on, because sometimes i want to actually play the mission fairly, but sometimes i just want to wreck the whole 8-player mission alone.

Even if you don't go for feats, remember how fun it was to go to old T1 or T2 raids solo and beat them? You can't do that anymore

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I miss the most. The feeling of being actually strong and powerful, like a super hero 😔

@Hades2Eros

Жыл бұрын

Especially with walk-ins. Going into Gates of Tartarus or Prime Battleground and doing everything solo was a blast and encouraged me and others to do it plus I'd form groups with low level toons and get them through it

@ThePresure

Жыл бұрын

All the fun gone out the game, all about spunking money on leveling artifacts. Mepps is a geek

@jsutton4703

Жыл бұрын

Felt like D.C. universe was what every multi-player openworld wanted to try to be. Like what other game could you cosplay as someone from a completely different universe (mangas, reality shows and other comics) and fight or one shot literal gods such as Zues, Darkseid, Hades.

@warzonemobile2807

Жыл бұрын

Yup I miss those days I was helping the noobs I felt powerfully solo ice tank survival me vs 30 adds solo raid t5 ECT m. Miss that hope they go back but I doubt they only looking for ways to make more 🤑💰 Cash bairtacts ectt .

100% stat clamp should have an option to que without it. Giving higher rewards for clamped content would give people much more incentive to do it. I would gladly take less reward to be able to enter it non clamped.

Agree no point in grinding if their going to stay clamp.

Man I miss the good old days where we could just join any instance and one shot everything and helping all the newbie players it really made us feel op as an end game player but I have to agree that stat clamp ruined that and it also made half of their players leave now it takes hours just to Q up any instance they mainly focused on the new ones all the other one's are dying out no one wants to run them anymore sadly only way to actually get a good group is by playing with your friends or your league mates

@gabrieljohn5823

Жыл бұрын

Man I used to destroy doctor fate and enchanted statue in 10 seconds max

@jameshowlett4018

Ай бұрын

This! Its made the game so unfriendly for newbs or helping newbs. Or making new toons. Even feat hunting solo. Everything about it is so unfriendly and shit. I'll start playing again if they ever remove the stat clamp.

Agree and have been suggesting that for awhile as well

Having an option to clamp or not is a great idea. A mixture of both can be great as well when making a group, having the players to choose. Been away from the game since Blackest Night episode and coming back to the game and do feats for old content have been a hassle, when there are hardly any players. I agree about the queuing option to clamp or not will help, but for non clamp not having any drops can be a pain. Especially when you are trying to do a run just to grab that one style which only drops in that specific content. Be great to do things without requiring a group to complete certain tasks. It would awesome if we can solo raids again though.. 😀

Before the clamp one of the things I liked to do was run early group content without a group. Soloing the original batcave outer caverns raid was one of the most fun things I've ever done playing this game. As a primary solo player it was a great way to enjoy content I otherwise can't do. I HATE the clamp with a passion and would actually pay serious money to remove it.

Anytime they mess with stats people leave. Stat clamp, stat revamp, and the poor handling of pvp crushed this game for so many of my peers.

Just shows that people need to be careful for what they ask for. I'd be shocked if they went back to the old system or even gave us an option. Thanks for the video Eddy and have a great day! Prime out.

Hate stat clamp too. All that grinding for nothing. I agree they should at least give us the option if we want to run stat clamped content or non stat clamped content.

For sure clamping was the reason i left since not only i could barely find groups for content but for feat hunting as well. From when t5 was new with the odyssey feats, i knew i couldn't do them until later but something i never thought i’d like doing was style hunting as well. Finding what rare drops exist or where treasure chest were in a map. Can still do that in game sure, but i have no interest in running old content if it takes roughly the same amount of time as new content would but with far worse drops and longer queue times. Just seems like no one asked for this and players had to either assimilate to it or perish as if brainiac just bottled your city for the collection. Happy new year to yall!

The thing with omni is, you’re just getting a bunch of 50sp larry’s with 3 level 60 arts queueing for it. Maybe occasionally some bored actual endgame players will queue for it. But why the hell would I q omni when I can make a group of 7 solid players and we queue for the exact raid we want for the exact feats and items we want? Omni isn’t made for feats, so not a lot of good players q for it. You get Xx79SUP3RM4N83 doing his roleplay in the chatbox thinking to save the world but in reality it’s atleast half the group are very new with the speed paced CR system and low arts and low allies if they have any at all, and don’t know wtf to do. Another is time. Working full time and having a life in general means I can’t sit in a raid and waste an hour on one singular bs raid to get 1 or 2 people a feat or two that myself and other endgame players already had gotten before the clamp that used to take 5-10 mins. People say “no more loot locks!” Yeah great, the only thing people run for SM now is noobs run necro, and good players run US over and over and over. So it’s not exactly a lot of variety. Before the clamp people ran way more different raids because they couldn’t mega spam 2 raids. This does not help new players in the slightest, having to grind 12 years of content for feats at the same CR as they were released is quite honestly the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard in terms of player retention… The only people the clamp doesn’t effect are both far ends of the spectrum; 1). you never have or will care about feats or endgame progression, generally you’re just not very good (this is 90% of the forum loud mouths, trust me, you know who I’m talking about…), standing stone warriors. The HoL and former WT statues who do nothing but stand around and treat the game like twitter etc, so the clamp changed nothing for them except inflating their egos by thinking they’ve dragged the “cool kids” down a notch. 2). You’ve already got most of the feats, you’re not re-running those ass raids for the same feats now clamped, it doesn’t matter, it’s not your problem. The middle of the spectrum, newish players who are trying to become elite are the ones paying the price the most. They’re stuck in a loop. Ask players to help you run an entire episode worth of feats; the 1). Players either are just too ass and it ends up taking atleast 3-4x longer than it should by either messing up feats constantly or just bad burn and bad at role and you end up turning the game off out of frustration and putting on some sweet spider-man, GoW, Elden Ring etc... The 2). Players already got the feats, they’re not your friends, you’re not in their league, they got other stuff to do The option in the video, offering both clamped and unclamped is the only way to go now, they will never remove the clamp (expecting them to admit to faults… cmon now), so this is really the only option. They say player retention has never been higher since clamp, post the data. Let us see. They never will…

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

Facts bro 🙏

I can see a revamped stat clamping in 2023 with allies taken Into consideration and art swapping

Typical problem of a game with a vertical progression. power creep make old content super easy and stat clamp make angry all the players who have worked to become stronger. You must add to that unbalanced instances, like CTE as you said, for example. Personal opinion: im ok with the clamp, but would be nice have to option to choose if we want it and (off topic alert) the game need a better reward syste, that make players revisit old instances, that could help people to seek more stuff then just the boost in the power we get episode after episode. Great Video, Eddy, i send you a hug from the distance.

as a new player I agree there needs to be a way to choose when you go into a raid.

I agree well said 🙏🏽

Stat clamp is a complete nightmare that's y most new player's have less than 300 skill points

Eddy, I was healing in the RoEr and NUr raid with you this morning, Chanclas DeLaMuerte, anyway I've been saying this since I came back a few months, give us the option of running it either with or without clamping. Best of both worlds

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

Hey man!! Good to see you here 🙋🏻‍♂️😁

I agree with your solution would be far better with the choice

Thats actually a very nice idea to have an option to go in a misson with state clamp or without it.

the thing about it that almost not one time you actually fight with the characters loadout you get constantly debuffed or buffed accordingly to it and what even is the point of getting gear and feats if you are adjusted to a specific stats set regardless what you are doing?

I agree with your solution. 💯

Agreed 100% 👍🏻

After stat clamp my lower of my 32 alts became dead weight. 'Speed leveling' became curse words, and carrying low levels in old content was harder than it needed to be.

When I started this game I hadn't known anything really like investigations or didn't have access at the time to certain styles I'd want. Sometimes I wanna hop into an older instance and have a mild challenge some back and forth but ultimately I feel as strong as I should. So I could gently get in get what I want and get out. Not me and my team mates getting upset because we continue to be one shotted against something random. And now this instance that should've been say half hour is going into an hour plus. And the moment people start quitting leaving it feels it's done. I agree it feels there should be a choice. Like how there's elite and normal instances. Just give me then before I ready up I can choose if the instance has a clamp or not. And if you wanna give incentive for clamp maybe make some of the more higher rarity items a bit larger percentage to unlock.

Getting source marks for one shotting old bosses would be op and the devs definitely wouldn’t do that lol unless they only give you 1 source mark for completing the raid.

A better alternative would be to make an endgame playlist consisting of all instance content scaled to endgame levels with endgame rewards. Players can experience the difficulty of old content like the good old days without clamping everyone when going back to lower level content while also getting worthwhile loot.

I guess an option wouldn't be bad. But I like the stat clamp. Doing a mission and having someone*One Punch Man everything is only fun for that one player. I wanna actually do a raid, not just run along side the highest CR player. Granted it does make some raids harder. But make friends in good players and enjoy the game.

For old content I like the stat clamp because I remember in the old days creating a new character, playing a raid with level 70 and some junkie entering the match with level 270 and killing everything with a single hit was annoying.

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

I hear you bro. That's why the solution I mentioned in the video is the way to go. Both sides happy ;)

@TerminatorT64

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree with that part, but the problem is that this will divide the players even more.

Well i think stat clamp is a good thing for new player to not come and be just power leveled without doing anything, giving the choice might be a good idea for those who doesn't want to have hard time doing old elite raid in high difficulty but wouldn't feel the same as it used to. I think they should keep stat clamp because it makes older raid feel as hard as it used to and feel better getting feats in the same difficulty (or almost) as the old player used to

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

I understand your point of view. But for us old players, those new players are scaled up, when they join omnibus raids. So they have no clue about mechanics, no artifacts most of the time. 90sp bought with CR skip token. They ruin the gameplay for us. What can be done in 20 minutes, takes an hour. So that's another reason I don't like Stats Clamping, because new players shouldn't just jump in end game DLCs with scaled up stats. They should go through each and every thing like we did. 😁

As I new player I kinda don’t like it considering my friends can’t carry me now and things take way too long now

I’m a vet player and I quit a while ago. I came back to check out the game and I will never get the logic on this. The game has so many areas where they can improve and expand the player base….but they thought not allowing players to use the powers they’ve earned would make the game…..more fun? Lol riiiight, because doing previous content with a more powerful character and seeing your progression isn’t a valuable experience at all lol. Make it make sense. This is why I left. It is entirely too expensive, the devs are clearly not responding to their player base, and the community has become toxic beyond reason. I really appreciate your solution, but it just reminds me how little effort it would take to improve the player experience. No one has time for that. I’d rather play Warframe or ESO and I have. Always appreciate your content though. It would be dope to see you do a different game bro. ✊🏿

I'm CR 395 with a good amount of SP. Not 600 SP good but I feel fire DPS was nuffed. On the topic, the drops aren't good in the raids. You basically get the same items no matter.

I don't mind the clamp, but thank goodness I missed that 10cr crap lol. I think if they're gonna clamp, clamp gear only. Stats mitigated by sp shouldn't be clamped. Unless that's already how it works then just tell me to stfu 🤣. Cheers!

I did an omni raid and things were going south fast so i inspected some of the people playing to discover many of them didnt even have a full set of armor..like missing legs, hands, etc. Just a waste of time

Keep omni stat clamped but specific raids give you the option for regular version, and open worlds not stat clamped, makes it easier to do the old bounty feats in worlds nobody goes to anymore.

Im one of the people that absolutely hate it cuz i dnt have every feat from the older content and some are really hard to get with clamping like the epic odyssey feat I’ve gotten it on another account years ago but i couldnt use that psn account on the ps5 cuz i forgot the password so had to restart fresh n now it’s ridiculous to get it if that solution was an option it would be so much better and id actually be willing to return right now its just hard decision to return to cuz i dnt like clamped content the other reason y i dont like clamping is cuz if im a high level i help low level players with the content i liked to help lower level players n i needed styles too i dnt really care bout marks or the omnibus stuff even though its cool they give a weekly reward box though i miss the old days like alot before omnibus was a thing

This will not fix everything, but it would be helpful I think: 1. If you're running stat clamped content, the game should treat all your gear like it's elite so you get the generator benefits. 2. Make skill points count for more in clamped runs. That would make it more worth it to build your SP level. Those two things would help balance between the group that wants to go back and one-shot everything, and like having the challenge with older content.

Listen with the recent changes in the dev team I wouldn't expect any changes that effect stats for a long while. They can barely make new artifacts without them breaking. God knows if they tried to fix stat clamp they would break half the game. Stat clamp more then anything is probably just so they can skip on the work of balancing old content. So if they opted to stat clamp to save dev time where do you think the dev time is coming to 1 change it back and 2 upkeep it when it breaks more often not clamped. I am with you I would love to see it gone I just dont think the current dev team has the skills to do it. Nor would I expect that to change anytime soon if anything this game is already on a managed decline but hey I an going to hold my breath to see what content the new team comes out with after they get a bit comfortable.

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

True true. But we gotta push them together and they might do it. If last time it took them 6 months to change because of few people on forum, maybe if we all go on forums and do it, they might listen, eventually. 😂

Just found this out while playing for the 1st time in months now cant even do fun raids

Yeah i like your idea i hate playing DC rn bcs everything takes too long but also wanna have new shit like a New power or new movement mode or classic DLC´s like i finally wanna have a Joker DLC where im going to fight the Joker and not just talk around him bcs i play this game since the beta since i was a child i want something new bcs the game is good it has so much potential they just need to give us something and not the moneymaker shit like 20new artifacts or the Ally shit noone wants that (not noone but not many ppl^^) its just like i want the game to change in a good way and its not doing itself a favour rn for me personaly. and again to the topic of the Video xD yeah Im in no need to do Feats or get my cr up when i cant solo a alert that been out since 8years or 10years like area 51 why should i go in there to get oneshotted by a boss? thats normaly 370cr under me/u or so xD

Give us the option to que for stat clamp on or off so both sides can be happy and we can get fast burn or slow burn feats everyone wins

I have been saying this since the day this started, and it has honestly gotten me to the point of seriously hanging up the old cape, so to speak. I have grinded, worked, communicated, and spent hours and hours, days, weeks and months getting the right group of skilled players together to get our skill points done while all of this content was relevant. We have spent 12 years working our tails off learning the mechanics to get stronger and stronger to be able to go back and see how far we've come/progressed over the years. We never wanted to go back and spend 3 hours or more or worse, not complete an older raid because who ques in can't perform their role or have a clue what they are doing. I've actually had to walk out of raids I needed because the players in their shouldn't be allowed in with what their skill level, points, augments, arts are and they want to run end game elite, it's ridiculous. I have said for approximately 2 years now how the devs should have handled the omnibus system. Here is how Omnibus should have been/needs to be changed to for all parties. 1.) Put the game back regarding our survivability,stats, damage, supports roles like we are no matter where you're character is in ALL(open world, DLC's, que in content, etc) game content. 2.) Omnibus should have been a choice, not a mandate/ a new and completely separate tab under the On Duty Menu to where anyone can go back under these Stat clamped conditions and run for source marks, gear etc. Just as it is now. 3.) All other tabs under On Duty should be like they were before. NO NERF/NO STAT CLAMP what so ever, whatever you have achieved, you are all the time(as long as you meet the cr requirements to be there). We should still be able to go back and get any and all our feats/skill points but no loot/gear under this system. This system is seriously punishing end game elite players who are havng to constantly pug, or que into content because they don't run in special 8 man clicks

They should just take out stat clamps in the open world, so we can still feel kinda OP. The stat clamp is actually not that bad inside the on duty missions, because i remember when people come into a raid 1 shots the boss then ends up glitching out the boss. Then you would have to restart the raid and remind people to not 1 shot the boss. I actually hated the stat clamp in the beginning to though so i can see why people hate it.

How about omnibus clamped and custom not? Then up the reward the omnibus to keep people doing it.

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

That'd work too. All I want is an option to choose from. Not saying, remove the stats clamp. Just give us an option. Lol

I’m so fed up with CR clamping it seriously needs to go.

I get it but even our trinkets are clamped I mean it would be nice to hit my trinket and get it's true buff since we are claimed so bad at least SC could be more effective in lower tier content

The obvious answer is to do what FFXIV does, have an option to queue without the clamp but no pugging without clamps, only pre-made and solo queues

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

Oh that's a good one. I haven't played FFXIV so I didn't know this. Thanks for sharing.

I see that everyone says they like the stat clamp or they don't but I feel that's exactly the point of implementing being able to choose. It doesn't matter rather you like Stat clamps or not if you have the option to choose, then both sides are being favored. But stat clamps make everyone equal when it comes to power and makes the que more about your team work and knowledge of skills and roles rather then who has the better gear and that goes for t1 thru 8, so all you players who know how to use your skills plus have the benefits of good gear wouldn't care if the clamp was there or not because you know its not just your gear that makes you good but your knowledge to use your skills, roles and abilities appropriately. The ones who just want power and stronge items and who never needed to know about the ins and outs of a raid they just stronge arm everything in under 5 minutes are the ones who really become effected by the clamps because now they have to learn how to use their skills and roles appropriately instead of just having their end game gear do all the work. Now there's more learning involved for them. The only thing both parties should really be upset about is how long a raid or instance can take since now it's about team work plus raid and role knowledge which most players in your instances are not gonna understand those things, so the battles become more strenuous and exhausting. I know before the clamps I was all willy nilly with my skill tray and just used the cool looking attacks because my gear did most if not all the work for me. I didn't care about a bosses attacks pattern or the conditions needed to get a raid completed because my gear allowed me to kill anything in my way without knowing that stuff but now that there's clamps I literally had to learn everything about my role and the skills I choose plus how each alert, raid etc is supposed to be beat because now my gear is pretty much just for health and sp and less about helping me hit harder which made me a more valuable player to any instance I was in plus I understand why roles are important now and not just cool attack animations. So think of the clamps as a way for everyone to learn what their doing and learn the game mechanics because when everyone knows their role its makes every instance go smoothly but we still gotta deal with how long it's gonna take to complete them.

I been said YEARS ago if they are going to force the clamp in the game, there NEEDS to be a choice for the player to turn it on or off at their discrection. How if is now is basically GAMING COMMUNISM. No matter how hard you work you will never get further than where you were put when you started. A real shame😔

I think it would be great if they gave us a choice

Other raids takes 1-2 hours,when doing sub bosses you need a whole team, nothing about dc is easy enough to get through and on top of that gear doesn’t help if you’re 396cr in lower content because it’s easy to die!

Can they remove stamp Clamp on old episode world content. Its so annoying and doesn't make sense, people are mostly in Tier 6 content anything below that there are near to no players. I want to do old content without waiting ages for other players to hopefully be around to help me out.

Make omnibus a stat clamp and make custom play your current cr, boom simple

The stat clamp sucks. I refuse to run clamped content with players I don't know. So I basically never run it. And this idea that players only want content unclamped so they can 1 shot bosses and earn easy feats is ridiculous. There are a few idiots on the dcuo forums who constantly repeat this nonsense. One of the strongest clamp supporters never shuts up on those forums yet admits they don't engage in the feat system. Think about that. Someone who doesn't chase feats is telling everyone else how they should be earning feats. I have yet to come across a player in game who says they like the clamp. The only ones who like it are the forums idiots. And most of those people barely play the game. The ones who do play are not very good. I've run with most of them. Also whenever the clamp is brought up the forums the ones who support it NEVER talk about the clamped elite content and the feats associated with that content. That is a big clue, because they have no argument when it comes to clamped elite content feats. Some of those feats are harder once clamped vs at level. Many feats are designed to be difficult and for players to go attempt them later when they are stronger. The devs themselves have said this multiple times. And the idea that the clamp is helping new players is flat out false. The forums idiots will have people believing the clamp is great because queues pop faster. Who tf cares about a queue popping fast if the instance can't be finished because there is a bunch of low level players in there who don't know what they're doing and don't communicate? Queues times should never be the data used for anything. Instances completed and the time it takes to complete them should be the data used. Common sense. Clamp should've been optional and the reason it isn't is because the devs are too lazy to balance 2 versions of the content. That is the #1 reason there is no option. Lastly, the idea that the unclamped option should have 0 rewards is beyond silly. For 11 years this game gave rewards and feats for running old content. Even if it was just 2-3 source marks it was something.

They should have a two options one for veteran players and one for non veteran players. So vets arent just carrying noobs and noobs arent just taking advantage of being caried and not learning the game mechanics. If veteran players decide to play with the non veteran players they can be nerfed in that game mode. If they play in a game mode where it wont let you in without a certain cr then the noob players can't join. Separate the vets and the noobs basically for one mode and than have a mode for bother to play in if they want.

Started dcuo again now after 7-8 years and found your channel Is it just me or is the game way worse now than before? Don’t want to bother anybody with my opinion but somehow I got the feeling that the old raids and stuff were much cooler designed and way longer than the new ones Also I can’t get my mind around why a player should be nerfed in raids he is way too high level for… that was really one of the coolest parts (like others in the comments here just said) Also im not really getting this artifacts stuff currently… but maybe again I have to put a lot of time into this to understand everything and feel comfortable with the updates since 2015-2016 (And sorry if my English is wrong at some points I’m from Germany) But also I want to tell you that I really love to see that there’s still a nice KZreadr here who makes content für this game! Then it was just ORBIT I can remember

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

Hey man! Welcome back! Some aspects have improved, some has gone down the drain. All episodes are free now, but PvP is broken for last 6 years. Bugs and glitches are a common thing now when new episode or event launches. A lot of changes in developer's department. Many devs left. So yeah. Thank you for your kind words. When I started, It was only me, orbit, smileb4death, StarrySky and Geoforce100. Geo still makes videos on and off. All others quit, sadly. Check this video out, you might understand some of the new basics, for example Artifacts: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gaxpudivitqXlKw.html Peace ✌

@tombaake1113

Жыл бұрын

@@iEddyGaming thank you so much for the little crash course!!

The only characters of mine that have Metal I access (Scarlet Speedster solo) are the ones I skipped. My normal 373 character - clamped to 273 - did a tipsy run just now and bounced off when Mirror Master was at 5%. Ah well. I usually get past that stage even if I fall over at Red Death. I would like to be a bit tougher for those earlier feats. On the other hand (pre-clamp) I hated running a particular duo with someone who had a much higher CR who breathed heavily into their mike the whole time while he dashed through, killing everything before I'd gone the length of the first corridor. He then had to wait for me to catch up at the end to complete, but I was left feeling pretty useless. So I don't want that situation in future.

What I find funny though is the open world you're still as powerful as your rating. So it's ok to go through those missions easy and one shot enemies, but the instance no not there? Because if it's all about "oh I want a challenge like when I was weaker or starting out" then where does the line get drawn? Because then couldn't devs easily for another dlc clamp the open world too? And then just in Gotham or metropolis can you be powerful.

I made it to cr160 in just a few days all random ques.. I've had to leave a few... Whole teams attack the prosecutor... I'm like do you not see me over here trying to get the evidence 🤣.... Over and over again same thing 😂

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha 🤣

The stat clamping is incredibly stupid. This is robbery. I worked for years just to have to grind lower content because my hard earned stats are nerfed. Screw that.

Stats Clamp should be removed so new players can get much more feats with the new feature that they added to the leaderboard. If i was a new player to dc i would want to get feats as fast as possible without spending 4 hours looking for a group... so if they remove the clamp, I'm most likely going to get people for an old raid which will get me feats by how fast they kill ads/boss/sub-boss & etc... and likely I'll get 3 feats, but if the clamp wasn't removed then i won't get those feats. And the majority of DC players that are new or returning players just want their CR up and Skill Points. So, by Devs doing us favor by removing the clamp it's not going to hurt anyone. because everyone is chasing the same goal either if its feats/style/CR. For harder content like the latest newest raids, should be where everyone needs to be and not in no old ass raid spending 1 hour or more... We have a bunch of new players that are either returned players or fresh start players... their most likely stuck doing old content because of the q times and how long it takes to complete a raid. If anyone disagrees with me saying that the clamp should stay, then you must be that person that enjoys spending 1 hour or 2 in an old raid and gets no feats.... I mean if u going to do 1 or 2 hours then at least get a feat... and the Majority of the developers don't even care about old content unless there's an exploit... so why bother having a clamp... Developers only care about people running the newest raid... And correct me on this but didn't they add stats clamp so that new players can enjoy the game and stay longer by having the motivation to continue playing the game???? Well new players always quit the game after 1 week of trying it... only a few new players actually stays... if they remove the clamp then new players will see OP players destroy shit... which will make them continue playing because OP players are eventually going to run old content with the new players due to the fact that the op player could be bored or he is trying to do a feat... and if he is doing a feat then he is doing it because the stats clamp is gone because he'll know that the raid won't be long or difficult and like that the new player will get feats. There's no possible way to disagree with my Accurate opinion on this situation... I see everything from both sides.

@jeffersonjoseph9340

Жыл бұрын

Having to do Raids, Alerts, and Operations with OP players is part of the reason why I stopped playing DCUO a couple of years back. It was hard to play Tank when adds and bosses get melted by DPS before they can be an actual treat. 😅

@onpy7863

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffersonjoseph9340 You was doing old content during those couple years ago and couldn’t tank without a dps melting a boss or ads. Dude you have to get to the latest episodes. The majority of tanks didn’t give two shits about bosses dying quick. Because they know it’s old content. All the tanks that I know always wanted to be ready for the next episode. Having old content clamped just kills the vibes for every endgame player that finished every content in the game when it first came out. No need for us to spend 2 hours on old content in 2023 all we get from those content is shitty item level gear and source marks and maybe 1 or 2 feats 🥲. Also now tank role will have so much fun due to the fact that now the dev team are releasing Elite Plus difficulty which will help your situation… it makes it difficult for a dps to melt a raid without a tank. You should like this new system that they have ima tell you how it works. New episode drops aka episode 45.. the episode 45 elite raid cr is 410 and the raid has elite plus with a difficulty system and you can raise the difficulty by 10%=418cr 20%=424cr 30%=432cr in elite plus. This difficulty system is already implemented into the game. Alright so now let’s say it’s episode 50 and you wanted to do tank episode 45 and you use the difficulty increaser you’ll be able to tank the old episode without a dps burning everything.

@arithebestever

Жыл бұрын

you want the clamp removed just so you can get feats 😂 this is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard, nothing is hard just get a league get 7 other ppl who also want to get feats like you and go into content, new players have to focus on older feats not newer ones you should have atleast 200 sp or about 200 even before you hit the episodes category theres just so much you can by yourself or with a duo or alert group then alot are in raids then emblems and mats in capsules the paywall basically, which isn't exactly a paywall but those who weren't following the content as it was released will either take their time to get or rush which is why people say the game is pay to win and it basically is if you have money you can do alot which in such a short amount of time then people who have been playing for hrs but it's all about how the player plays you can p2w and still suck,but why should feats be easier to suit you or "newer players" is my question if you don't wanna grind what is the entire point

@angryman4453

Жыл бұрын

@@arithebestever lets say you are new player. which one u prefer. get to endgame really fast and in meantime complete most feats by other player burning thru raids? or 1 raid take 30 40 min (maybr not even complete) give u some +4 cr gear and reach endgame 6 month later? for me i prefer to reach endgame and have fun with new content then struggling to reach it with no skill points bcs noone bother to do feats in omnibus

@arithebestever

Жыл бұрын

@@angryman4453 id rather reach end game 6 months later bc rushing through stuff isn't the way and why would you try to get feats in omnibus dude 😭, you could be a 700 sp player 200 arts rush through and still get out dpsed, the game is abt knowing if u rush you'll be clueless

Eddy I had an idea about something else last night so thought id share it. We have the legends training area in game. You queue up, choose a legend, and can practice with that legend. We should have this for artifacts. Queue up, choose the artifact, choose the rank of the artifact, and practice using it. This would allow players to determine if a specific artifact is for them or not. What do ya think? "Get on test" is the solution I see for this problem all the time. Well not every player can get on test or has the time to.

They need to remove it, and they also need to update PVP as a veteran of the game I really miss the old school dcuo PVP from 2013

Hate it. It never should have been added to the game. Sadly.... we knew a looong time ago that if they ever added the Clamp.... it would not be optional. :( And now.... here we are. :(

Play normal raid for Source Marks XD, Somebody doesnt get it at all. It's let us get the styles. Obviously feats should be clamped only since SP are meant to prove the player worth. No self respected DPS will wine about something so obvious

I want to swap my playstation account to pc

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

That's not an option, unfortunately. Wish it was though.

i hate state clamps. Maybe they should bump it up another 15 Cr if they don't want to remove it, or maybe don't nerf the SP so much.

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

Make it 75cr 🤣🤣

as the statistics are subject there are more speed hackers that never deserved it.... 😞

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

Another good point. 👍🏻So many new speed hackers because of stats clamp.

@CrazyFran91

Жыл бұрын

@@iEddyGaming people seek to do feats from old episodes if in addition to the fact that there are no people to do it because the statistics are blocked it is even more difficult to do it then many people are forced to do less orthodox things..

@CrazyFran91

Жыл бұрын

@@iEddyGaming The elite plus is another problem in this game, so that new speed hackers are born I understand that there are very competitive people who seek to do difficult feats but not everyone can afford 3-6 artifacts at a range of 200 because the game is already expensive. to keep if you're a legendary member, out of the entire game only 20% or less are competitive people...

@CrazyFran91

Жыл бұрын

@@iEddyGaming It's hard to balance the scales so that experienced players don't get bored and new players don't choose to seek other help like speed hackers that makes this game more and more rubbish. Ty 4 read me ❤️😭

Sadly.... we are stuck with the Clamp. The Devs are determined to keep the Clamp and make it mandatory. :( I guesstimate we lost roughly..... 30%??? of the players base when they added the Clamp..... .....and still they kept the Clamp. That is the measure of their resolve. No matter how many people we lost because of the Clamp...... they are determined to keep the Clamp and to keep it mandatory. :(

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

According to devs their population increased after launching stats clamp and omnibus. Yet they won't show/share the data. 😑

it pissed me off

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

Stat clamp or me? 😂

@marlinzygula2658

Жыл бұрын

stat clamp its bs

I understand why the devs did it, but I don't agree with it. If they fix it, because it would be a fix, they should also have a third server for open world areas so higher leveled toons can go in and get dailies, feats, etc. then move on. I was playing longer & actually grinding when it was this way. Time=$ so they want you in content longer for the chance you'll spend money after getting frustrated because your toon is at level being clamped not higher. This couldn't be further from the truth as I, a returning player & switching to PC, would go to each open world area and do the grind for each thus being in longer. I'd spend money for replays for my other toons and go back until the feat sheet was completed. If they want a better chance at getting money from returning or end game players then it needs to be fixed. Rant over

@Hades2Eros

Жыл бұрын

At the very least they should do this for reset days and see how much more playtime people have for testing results

even with the clamp i feel like a god in DC so i personnally dont get the issue and the game will not survue with out the clamp its not about taking from the players its about preventing us from breaking the game as we were so powerful we were breaking the content. all mmos have some kind of stat banding because of this reason.

here my newby take on it. Ive only been playing for 3 days, im at 114cr, like 70SP, i actually REALLY enjoy the stat clamp because it gives me the feeling that you OG players already got to feel. If they took that out, i feel like most OG players would just run the older content as normal and new player ques would PLUMMET. Maybe make it only style as rewards for people who want to just power through the old content as gods?

@frth5141

Жыл бұрын

I agree

Personally I think making it an option is the best but I grew to prefer stat clamp so mfs are forced to learn an elite raid

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

😂😂 I can feel the anger in those words bro haha

@roboninja3194

Жыл бұрын

Except players have to be willing to learn. And 80% of them or higher are not willing. You cannot force someone to do something they don't want to do.

Yea, but the problem with that is the population it's too low for that 😕

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

It's not that low on PS/PC. People just stand around doing nothing because most people don't want to run stat clamped content. Example is in the video, took 6 seconds only for the omnibus raid to pop, and that too the JLD shattered gotham raid haha

@Wolf.Vision

Жыл бұрын

@@iEddyGaming Correction: is not that low in US PS/PC. I wanna play in US but my characters are too high in EU 😭😭😭😭😭 somebody save meeeeeeee

Remove all stats clamps

I think it's a great idea but feels like DCUO devs would never make it since you could literally swim in source marks farms with them 2 minutes raids.

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

That's a very good point. Maybe 25% source marks compared to clamped version? 🤔

@kermit2645

Жыл бұрын

@@iEddyGaming yeah that would be preferable by the devs I think, and if that's not enough. Then I guess you could do no source marks but have the raids, alerts etc. open for feats farming since that's like one of the main reasons people play old episodes

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

People on forum are against the idea of feats in unclamped version. You should see the mess it is on those few threads lol

@kermit2645

Жыл бұрын

@@iEddyGaming lmao I see, well fair enough then

This game needs to equally playable for everyone who is interested in it! Why is this even a subject, all of a sudden? Because you all want to "relive the glory days" of when we use to be able to one shot everything in lower level content? How was that fun for the new people or lower level players who wanted the full experience of the game such as we were able to experience it? Full story...taking time to figure out how to take down the boss...learning mechanics...becoming better with our chosen powers and weapons and learning which weapons work best with each power...learning the best loadout...learning our roles...etc. etc. etc.! You know exactly what I'm talking about. If tons of you continue screaming "reverse stats clamp" then you will, subconsciously and officially kill this game! Is that what you all really want? Yes, right now, the game has a few problems but FARRRR BETTER than what it use to be! It use to be a lot worse! Remember the days where the entire game would crash on EVERYBODY at one time? Remember when you couldn't use your powers...AT ALL? Remember when we would fall through the floor and have to warp rally? Those were extremely bad glitches!! While we laughed, at the time, it really made playing the game very annoying!! Then...THEN...people starting quiting because of those issues! Then, queuing became more and more scarce. Less people playing equals longer waiting in line to que up to play, which left a huge gap...an extremely longer wait times, just to play the game. Back then, you couldn't play anything over T3(then tier system) without a membership, so "free-to-play" players were left doing the same things over and over and "free-to-play" was an illusion back then, as well. The system and game setup, as it is now,(again) is far better than yesteryear! And it works very well for EVERYONE! So, get off your high horses and soap boxes and leave well enough alone, please and thank you.

@deadpoolnerd

Жыл бұрын

But then what would you say for those that don't want a one shot battle but also don't want an hour long slog? Because sometimes even with all the planning right prep work and learning mechanics it still can feel forever or just insta shot.

@nerdofgames1608

Жыл бұрын

@@deadpoolnerd If you do not want an hour long fight, then build your own group to que alerts and raids. That's what LFG (Looking For Group) chat, is for. I'll take hour long fights over major glitches in-game and over long waiting, ques, any day of the week!

If it ain't broke don't fix it! The game was good as it was before this clamp garbage. Good players could finish the content quickly while weaker players needed to grind more in the lower tier missions in order to get the needed gear to finish the missions that were to difficult for them. Nothing was broke. It's like those people in charge of the game are paid by a rival company to ruin it, instead of improving it.

Things like the revamp, and stat clamp are why myself and real players resigned. Since the revamp dc has gone down in population and quality. Also since someone completely destroyed the stock market and millions are insignificant due to real money being traded for in game currency there is no point in playin' dc universe any longer. Rip to the at one time greatest and most hilarious social platform of all time

I still hate stat clamp lol

Slightly disagree, the stats clamp should be all Tier based. A stats clamp for T1-T6 should be the ideal. Having all T6 just be whatever CR you are. So you can do Patchwork at CR 396 but the moment you go to T5 it’s an actual stats clamp. However running Omnibus missions should not have a stats clamp due to you helping lower levels out. This would balance out the levels and gear requirements for everyone. The best place to see this is Elite raids where you have 700 SP but you don’t get hit with the clamp as hard due to the scaling. The open world is where the game loses a little due to people beating able to solo bosses however most if not all roles can solo tons of bosses just a matter of time.

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

That's actually not a bad idea. I like it. What's your take on feats though? Should omnibus no stat clamp content have feats? What about rewards?

@caprisunwarriorinc.7094

Жыл бұрын

@@iEddyGaming Thank you, for Omnibus keep feats. No point of taking feats out however rewards should be doubled by SM or gear. All omnibus que should be double or triple SM. This will have more plays filtering through old content!

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

I hear ya bro. But if there is no stats clamp on omnibus and rewards are doubled. The Source Map spam will br crazy. We will go there, one shot bosses, in and out under 2 minutes for 10-20 source marks. Daybreak is gonna go bankrupt 🤣

Just get rid of stat clamp. It completely ruins the game and like you said "Makes you feel weak". There's literally no point in getting "stronger gear" When every fight is the same. Whether it be T1 or T6. I quit playing when they started the whole stat clamp bs. I just returned and already don't really care to play anymore. A lot of feats are impossible now cause of these stat clamps. DayBreak turned this game into a big scam and focused everything towards the marketplace. Nothing but Pay to Win garbage now. So damn sad too. This was one of my favorite games.

They should just make a new game. Whining for established "rules" on a 12 year old game won't get us anywhere. Even if Clamping gets removed, what? We are gonna enjoy for a month and then the blandness will come again.

Stop crying people. It’s not going away anytime soon

@roboninja3194

Жыл бұрын

This is another stupid ass take. People are allowed to have an opinion. Welcome to the real world where adults talk about things. It's called a discussion and having one is not "whining." When specific people were on the forums every single day for years asking for a clamp I definitely did not say anyone say they were whining. Instead discussions were had and the reasonable conclusion was if the devs ever did a clamp to make it optional. Options are always better vs forcing customers to do something they don't like.

@williamcarder1975

Жыл бұрын

@@roboninja3194 then feel free to go play something else

@Mirror371

Жыл бұрын

Wow bothered over an opinion… nice

Why are u encouraging this.... I worked to hard to get 555sp just to get water down... I hate this

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

And I worked hard to get to 700sp. That's exactly why I am encouraging this. What's the point of all that farming and getting skill points etc. Only to be clamped at years old content? 🤔😭

All these 'clamped' instances are still incredibly easy once u git gud. Best thing they added to the game. All those who quit because of this are probably just scrubs who were trying to bully some instances because they are 20 dlcs above. Good riddance. We literally have unlimited loot now coz of omnibus like what ?

@roboninja3194

Жыл бұрын

Such a stupid take. I have 771sp and i despise the clamp. I get 95% of my feats at level when a dlc is the current one. The devs themselves have admitted some feats are designed for most players to go back and get them once they're stronger. Which means not at level. Once in the clamp some of those feats are actually harder vs at level.

i love stats clamp it feels like new content everytime

The stat clamp was one of the better things that Dcuo ever implented, it was sooo boring to level a new character when a max geared player joined the group and speed ran through the whole thing. Dc is the easiest game on the market and these kids still complaining that it's too hard, they're just bad, they never stop complaining or whining. These noobs think anyone care if they quit Dc, as a matter of fact go ahead and quit if you're just gonna cry about everything, nobody cares.

I'll never understand people wanting to be oP in old conten, basially all mmos function around stat clamping. It's like dcuo players have no brains, having a bunch of OP players run around in old content ruins it entirely. Seriously, yall need to play other mmos, stat clamping is beyond normal. Removing stat clamping will just make others quit. Doesn't matter if you are 296cr in old content, nobody wanting to enjoy content will be ok with getting carried. Giving a option will only separate the playerbase. Again, actually look at other mmo's, like ff14, you guys would get laughted off the forums

Older content is always a Ghost town. Players abandoned in mass when stat clamp's inevitable results occurred. Progression is meaningless. New players leave within a day or two when they realize progression means nothing and that all the older content are Ghost towns. New content seems to be about pushing political/ideological agendas above good content (we get it they love the alphabet people and wants us to vote democrat). The agenda pushing also drives away players old and new. The stat clamp sucks and has ruined the game for everyone but the handful of super elite that live in game and worship DCUO like it's their religion. You know the same ten people that dominate the forums and have been attacking all the hundreds maybe thousands that went on to complain about the stat clamp. Most likely they are employees of DCUO since those same ten post 24/7 which means they don't sleep (go look at time stamps). The game leadership are extremely toxic and care only about virtue signalling how lelftist/woke they are to each other. MEPPS has banned people for simply pointing out observable facts from the game. The DCUO leadership refuse to own the fact that the stat clamp sucks and the majority overwhelmingly hate it because woke people NEVER admit they are wrong about anything. Thus why it will never be dealt with by the current leadership. It's not about it making them money or health of the game. It is truly as simple as they can't accept they were wrong.

Never understood this, the clamp is good. You can actually run older content without pressing 1 button to 1 shot every boss. You're still strong even in older content, you still blitz through it. That's how I looked at it, I now have fun running old stuff with my league mates as we re-learn old mechanics and curse at one-shots.

Personally it's for the best, fuck the feats and im glad I don't have to deal with them anymore.

So this is what it’s called, “stat clamp,” lol I’m a returning player and came back about a month ago after not playing for 2 and a half years and I knew something was off… I was like “WHY AM I SO WEAK IN THIS T1 AREA 51 ALERT!!!” I just deleted dcuo again after only a month back because I’m not about to be struggling to beat old content.

3:47 you die and blame the stats clamp? Lol maybe get gud

@Mirror371

Жыл бұрын

If you can’t understand from their perspective then stay to yourself then

@Mirror371

Жыл бұрын

No need to get bothered over an opinion

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

Not sure if you can't see or just ignorant. There's no tank. Healers are dead and im next on hate list. And yes it's because of stat clamp, tank left because he didn't know the mechs. Half the dps are lowbies with no idea whats going on. So we are forced to run with them and spend an hour on an old raid.

@nothinghereligma3363

Жыл бұрын

@@iEddyGaming if you don't know the mechanic get gud. Don't blame stat clamp for your inability to perform. Stat clamp just exposed all the bad players and now they are forced to learn and get better.

@iEddyGaming

Жыл бұрын

Well, I do know the mechanics, it's 3 years old content ffs. I was talking about the low bies and others. But I don't think you are ready to listen or accept other people's point of view, except spamming the word "git gud" like a 13 year old. 🤣 So, good day sir.