DB Longboards: 180mm Reverse Kingpin Truck Review: Paris, Randal, Buck, Bear
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DB Longboards team rider Nick Di Vona explains the differences between four 180mm reverse kingpin longboard trucks:
Randal 180mm Trucks
Paris 180mm Trucks
Buck 180mm Trucks
Bear 180mm Trucks
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I've never seen a product vid that conveyed so much technical information so clearly and so concisely and in so short a time; just outstanding
Yes. I have had my 852's for a year and a half now. Never let me down. Great trucks!
Surprisingly, my Randal R2's are my first set of trucks since 2011, and they still work well even today (after affixing the kingpin in the baseplate with epoxy).
I’m buying a pair of Randal Trucks and this vid was very helpful in making sure they’ll work, great vid 👍
just bought some paris' today absolutely amazing
@cosoicosa it will say if they are an 852, 840, 1052, or 1040. the first number determines how big axel is with. 852 has a 8mm axel. -Nick
Thanks for finding that typo on the single speed...it's 41" long. We can do custom layups on any of the boards. 7 Ply Bamboo on the Cosmonaut is extremely light and has great flex. If you are looking for a light weight freeriding board that would be my recommendation.
Bears for me have always had a problem with the bushing seat. Whenever I put new bushings on my bears I have to sand the bushing 1 to 2 mm.....very sad. If you like bears buy a pair of 180mm randals. flip-able hanger, I believe 42 or 50, which ever you like, and good bushing seats unlike the bears
Yes, I have it on my Landyachtz Drop Carve 36 and they're AWESOME!
@Goldballs5 That is correct but in my opinion just because the well like bushing seat is only existant on the road side, when it is flipped, the truck feels dead.
Thanks for that in depth review!
I was wondering the same thing. Some of the best cast trucks imo.
when you flip the hangar it changes the bushing seat, thus making it more restricted / less restrcted, NOT changing the angle.
depends on what u are doing for down hill i use my bear because the bushing seat is more deep and cups the bushing so for me its less twitchy for freeride i think they are both fine they have a lot of turn the paris: more carve oriented trucks with a less defined bushing seat but i like it for free ride more yes i do own both these trucks and i have done almost everything on them just i would personnally choose the bears bear > paris :dh bear bear = paris :quality up to you
@chancerbob95 No, the geometry does not line up. For some reason bear makes their trucks incompatible with others. However, randals, bears, and bucks are all interchangeable. -Nick
what is lighter the bear or the randal ?
it does change the angle because the flipped side has a deeper bushing seat, thus lowering the angle by a few degrees.
@skimmingandstuff Extremely light, the one with NO flex is slightly heavier because it has a slightly different construction. -Nick
@MountainTopBoards Currently do not have those in stock, what we have is what we are selling. Possibly in the future though! -Nick
I'd love a video on the types of wheel and their pros and cons
you should get bears they are just as light but have less slop than paris does in the bushing seat
Stumbled across your video and just wanted to say you could make your life easier in these videos by putting a cloth of some kind down on that glass. It would reduce noise so you dont have to go easy setting them down and it would pad the glass some.
No, changing the bushings doesn't require any alteration of the kingpin (other than taking off the nut) so its all the same.
@jovenard They weigh about the same as other trucks. For my personal experience, Randals have been the lightest by far and have preformed the best. -Nick
Hey ho i have a QUESTION :) is every Paris which has 50° flipping to 45/46° ??
@skatedivona thanks for the answer you help me a lot and i'm sorry for my bad english!!
Bears are good, but they tried too hard to be accurate with the bushing seat. Their casting mold is way messed up sometimes and your bushing wont fit, literally wont fit. gotta sand your bushing down. Bears are fantastic except for that major flaw....If anyone is interested in bears check out randal 180mm trucks, same thing but better bushing seat.
thanks, ill go check it out at the shops
So the "8" in Bear's 852 Grizzly RKP trucks stands for its use with 8-mm bearings? Dude I've watched dozens of vids on Bear trucks and not even Bear's own vids mentioned the origin of the name; fascinating
@nemirider96 They are machined in just as paris trucks are. I suppose you could hammer it out but that risks cracking your baseplate. -Nick
On the Paris Trucks the side with the deeper Concave would be on the opposite side of the board
@ikbenoverig theyre all the same. They all pretty much perform the same, but I would get bucks or bears because theyre higher quality and bears are made in the USA. when its all said and done, the trucks don't matter as much as the bushings do unless you're doing crazy downhill. use whatever trucks you want for freestyle, preferably bears because they're pretty light and have good stock bushings for freestyle
Don't know much about the trucks difference for certain skate purposes, but i would like to know which trucks are suitable for stiffness for downhill racing and what adjustments can you do with the trucks as far as speed goes and does an 180mm wide truck considers stability? Thanks.
bears still have pretty squeaky pivot cups it went away after I removed the bad grease and replaced it with some soap shavings
also is it me or does the paris axel have a bit of a curve to it?
bears best all around truck for sliding, down hill, and cruising?
I heard that Kingpin Trucks stop speed wobbles pretty nicely? Is that true?
@anthonyeatguitar
10 жыл бұрын
nope
I'm with Chris cts. My bear grizzlies are Phenomenal!!!
@MrRyansgaming i got some to learn on and have them for 1 year and a half
i love my bears
Do the paris trucks come with nuts, bolts and bearing spacers?
i may get some with my s9 eyedropper
@Longboardfan No actually, measure your hanger, it is a 176. All of the newer generation of r-2's measure out to 176mm.
I've experienced the opposite :P ridden Paris, Randall, and Bear, never will ride Paris after picking up the other two.
So my GF has a board she's been making. It's a pintail, not sure how long or wide it is. I was wondering what would be a good set of trucks/bearings/wheels to get for her, so to avoid the wheels hitting the board when she turns?
lol mine fell out while i was switching bushings. i just pounded it back it and it works fine. calibers are pretty indestructible tho.
what truck is the strongest out of this for going of kickers and doing early grabes ?????
how do you know what the front and the back of your truck is, does some trucks have a clear sign or something like that?
paris for life!!!!!!!!
very nice video bro explained alot think i might buy off your website :D
I hate my Bear trucks. Endless issues with squeaking on the pivot cups, despite the mentioned lube, and the deep bushing seat is a nightmare. Won't fit Khiro bushings. They look great, but other than that not a fan. Others seem to love them though. I've had NO issues with my Paris trucks and they feel so much smoother! Go with Paris!
i have the killswitch 38 inches what trucks should i get bc i have the gold paris and flashbakcs is that a good setup or should i get new trucks?
also what is the weight of the cosmonaut? would you consider it light?
Should I get the Paris or Bear
Can the Paris 180mm bomb hills and carve pretty well or it's just made for free ride?
i heard bears tend to break after a while though but i only weigh 110 pounds would that still be a problem???
will these trucks have any problems putting on if my truck go throw my board?
could i use any of these on my old school 30'' 80's deck and pretty wide (about 10 at the widest) ps i would like to use 70mm wheels on them or if there is no other option pennywheels wich are 60mm
For the 180 pairs can you use a pintail board
@DBlongboards can u make a review or video on it im looking in to it but i dont wanna just trust it off info and pictures
you should make a review on surfrodz
Ok so I'm getting the sama sometime soon and wana know Paris or bears ? My bushings are going to be venom 85 a and I love to carve but wana learn to slide properly and maybe do a little dancing so basically an all around set up (not DH) what would you say is a good setup?
Would a sector 9 dropper, venom cannibals for wheels, and Paris trucks be a good set up for cruising and downhill?
i was just having a random thought, could u put paris hangers on a bear baseplate? cuz i wouldnt mind a 52degree paris lol
Where can I get the purple paris???? Please answer!! Thx.
how do you take out bear king pins?
@websurfer955 thanks man I think I would but now I'm even debating on getting the sama a lot of people say it's good but not worth the price
what kind of trucks should i use for a gold coast classic black
What's your riding style? I.E. Downhill, Freeride, Cruising, etc.
does the bear fit a dropthrough board??
Can you take out caliber kingpins? I'm afraid to try anything too extreme on it before I know.
which one is better Randal or Buck???
i have bears on a 4 foot long deck and it feels like a freeride board
which set of truck are the best?
My god that was informative.
they are decent for everything but i would recommend calibers over them for sure
Which truck would fit with Dervish Sama? my friend was telling me to put in randalls but I kinda like Bears and Paris in terms of looks and feel because my friend has bears on his wolfshark and paris on his original. I'm into medium downhill and more on freeriding and just cruising around chillin
Paris vs Randal, which is better for freeride?
Best trucks for freestyle? and lightest
whats better paris180s or bears. Cuz i slide, and do freestyle
the bears comes with 10mm bearings?? or i can choose between 8 and 10??
Randall trucks or Paris trucks for carving, cruising, sliding?"??
If you flip the Paris hanger it makes it lower to the ground and more stable
@bronsonruddy1480
3 жыл бұрын
You can't flip the hanger on Paris. They have too much rake. The hanger will touch the baseplate.
@Post_war_designs
3 жыл бұрын
@@bronsonruddy1480 well, no, it doesn't. it just makes it extremely low. absolutely still functional. Also hard move replying to an 8 year old comment.
is the single speed really only 30 inches?
what is better (caliber 184 mm,50forty-four)or (paris180mm)
to let u know probably randals are your best truck for that stuff
What should I get Paris or Randal. I free ride
What is everyones opinion on Century Trucks?
so you could flip the hanger and have a higher degree? It won't affect your riding?
@HavitheAddicted
9 жыл бұрын
+jason apple Flipping the hangar loweres the degree, which offeres a more stable ride but less lean.
@DBlongboards witch one is stronger?
for an arbor agent is a good idea using bears
Is that paris good for downhill?
Can someone give their opinion in buck trucks?
why is my kingpin short on the bear 852
im gettin tan tine what trucks should i getZ?
Can I put the Paris 150mm on my regular 8.25 skateboard deck?
@osiritis1701
8 жыл бұрын
wouldn't recommend
yep i like the inheats better but thats just my opinion just experiment and find what works for you
surfrod indeez. u can get them at bustinboards
my friend curb his board and his randal's pivot cup just snapped off, not very durable
Hey just to anyone who feels their opinion is valid... I'm riding a tan tien with durians and Gullwings. hah yes gullwings.ANyway i need new trucks becuase i have had mine fore 2 years and they are wearing down. I do some DH with top speeds up to 30mph but mostly freeride/sliding. Recently, i have been trying to land a coleman pendy. However, i cant get the back rotation possibly becuase of my bushings/trucks and their rebound. All suggestions are welcome and helpful