This was a perfect explanation. I've been following the descent into chaos in the Ukraine since 2014 and later watched Oliver Stone's 'The Putin Interviews' which further highlight all the key issues Russia was facing from the West. It's frustrating to see so many go along with mainstream media fed storylines without questioning and reading into history themselves. One could say that social media and its echo chamber tendencies are to blame. I digress. Thank you Freddie and the UnHerd team as always.

@GregQchi

Жыл бұрын

One could say your comments are actually Putin apologism

@tobiMelka

Жыл бұрын

@@GregQchi, do you find apologism of anyone's actions wrong? Just checking ;)

@macnicolson5452

Жыл бұрын

The problem with finding a sane solution to the conflict lies in the fact that there exist within the US administration, a host of egoistic, immature political players who think they are Cersei or Tyrion Lancaster reborn - idiots who grew up on computer games and Marvel fantasies and whose Daddys funded their Harvard and Yale college degrees. They think that regime change in Russia and the subsequetn encircling of China is a brilliant idea worthy of the admiration of Daddy.

@GregQchi

Жыл бұрын

@@tobiMelka try rephrasing the question

@nataliapshyk9543

Жыл бұрын

You may or may not follow the mainstream media, but you must not try to apologise the agressor! Putler is the agressor, fullstop. And btw, it's Ukraine, not the Ukraine.

When people say “in America’s interest” they’re mostly talking about government and corporations, which are colluding against the American people.

@NotShowingOff

Жыл бұрын

Americans still want to buy homes and live independently. So they can’t really think about sacrificing much while working for their goals. Ironically, their participation in this machine is what makes it so unstoppable

@alexrusov1767

Жыл бұрын

And when they say that this is happening in the interests of Moscow, it is definitely the same. Alas, the population has nothing to do with it - only an extremely narrow group of people benefits.

Great interview. I admire David’s courage to speak out as one of the few sane voices in America. The level of ignorance about the background to the conflict is shocking. Even scarier is the censorship of those who speak for peace and a diplomatic settlement.

@cav4290

Жыл бұрын

The level of his ignorance is also shocking.

@xylemrays671

Жыл бұрын

Your level and his level of ignorance is shocking. He’s literally regurgitating false information spread by the Kremlin. You people are idiots!

@cav4290

Жыл бұрын

@@xylemrays671 And why do we even give space to these clowns? By his name I am assuming he and his family were forced to flee from Europe... If "peace" would have been agreed upon back then, he probably would not be sitting there.

@alekzgavriel-russo7453

Жыл бұрын

If you are going to advocate for Russia to annex parts of Ukraine you best prepare for the social consequences of that morally bankrupt stance.

Great conversations. You keep speaking to interesting people Freddie and I really appreciate your interview style.

Zero chance any Russian leader would allow hypersonic’s three minutes to Moscow. This idea of regime change in Russia is absolutely ludicrous. And suicidal.

@fujohnson8667

Жыл бұрын

2 years of “if it saves one life” to “we need to start WW3” the propaganda has been strong.

@mariannorton4161

Жыл бұрын

Very well said.

@TedATL1

Жыл бұрын

There was regime change for Khruschev and Gorbachev.

@offshoretomorrow3346

Жыл бұрын

Since when has NATO ever put nukes in ex Warsaw Pact states? That's right, never.

@mariannorton4161

Жыл бұрын

@@offshoretomorrow3346 They have already said they want to, as well as in Scandinavia. There's a problem here.

One thing to say about Freddie Sayers. From the beginning of the pandemic up until now, I had to do my own research concerning everything around pandemic measures and the vaccines, because no mainstream source seemed to do a good job (not even close) or was trustworthy. I can tell from my own experience that doing serious research, so that one can at least have a reasonable shot at a somewhat solid decision is no easy task; it is time consuming and exhausting, not to mention the stress. Doing this for at least 3-4 hours each day after work for over 2 years has empowered me, nevertheless it has also exhausted me. I think I came to know unherd in the middle of 2021 and have followed and critically observed it since then. I can now say with an ease of mind that I can pull my information from this "news outlet" [it is so muh more], because Freddie has proven for one, that his heart is in the right place (,which for me is the most important thing) and that his competence in doing this type of work is par excellence; he just has the right mentality to dissect the issue at hand with solid critical thinking and a cool head. It doesn't mean that there is no room for error or differing opinion, not at all, but that Freddie is fully trustworthy and does excellent work. I can say, with an ease of heart, that I can FINALLY take information coming from a news source, without an instantly puching need or even obsession to immediately cross-check and dissect it. Freddie has earned my trust on all fronts. It spares me so much time, energy and stress. THANK YOU, FREDDIE AND THE UNHERD TEAM! So, these days my time doing research has fallen to a few hours a week just to keep up to date. Unherd and some other "new" platforms have become my new sources for pre-digested information and I can finally chill a bit more.

@stereomtl9001

Жыл бұрын

Yes, better late than never for Freddy and Unheard ....nothing new revealed here that the Duran, Scott Ritter and Colonel Douglas McGregor did not dissect 6 months ago and Mearsheimer about a decade ago, hell even Roger Waters broke it down

@preshannaidoo7479

Жыл бұрын

My experience mirrors yours somewhat. Although in someways I was somewhat “fortunate” to be unemployed from the start of the pandemic to a year in. This gave me the time to understand what was going on and critically process. Although at one point I was way too eager to get the jab. This was around the time of the delta variant where my younger friend found herself with a 50 50 chance of pulling through. Since that time she has gone on to embrace every booster while I have unfortunately become an anti-vaxxer.

@rolanda.2653

Жыл бұрын

@@preshannaidoo7479 Well I am anti-MRNA-Covid shots for the non risk-groups. Altough, nowadays with the new strain in circulation, this "vaccine" is obsolete anyways. Latest large scale studies even show a negative efficacy after the 3rd to 4th month, especially for the boosted.

@miaash3870

Жыл бұрын

The West does not want PEACE! The West wants this provoked war to continue for as long as possible! That is why Zelensky was placed in power in Ukraine!!!!! Liz Truss as a foreign secretary stated that this war will last for F I V E years!!!! How does she know this?

@bedcech

Жыл бұрын

He knows the elites butter his bread and 'plays' the center convincingly, unfortunately he's still part of the problem because he finds truth problematic. He talks a good game though

Great episode, great host well done Freddie.

I am old enough to remember when the Soviet Union was collapsing and left some nuclear weapons in Ukraine. The west agreed to ensure the territorial integrity of Ukrain in exchange for helping them to decommission those devices. So many nations agreed to this. I think that Russia was one such party. Shall we forget these assurances, shall we appease Putin. My parents went to war in their generation in part because the west gave in to Hitler’s demands to seize the territory of other sovereign counties. Famously, peace in our time? Million died because Hitler was not deterred.

@thomasjosullivan9179

Жыл бұрын

I agree, amazing how they think Ukraine should be thrown to the wolves. Russia have shown their willingness to commit mass murder and endless war crimes.

@Bellatrys

Жыл бұрын

What happened to the Minsk accords

@Nimish204

Жыл бұрын

@@Bellatrys what happened to the Budapest Memorandum?

@Eugenia_-up2hu

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙌

Great episode with David. I listen to the All In podcast and respect his opinions and thoughts. I definitely think there is more of an appetite for rational thought than one might think these days. 👍

I agree, America has been part of the problem all along. Not only in the Balkans but all over the world.

@Wise101

Жыл бұрын

America has been securing the global seas since WW2 allowing unprecedented global trade, human development and global economic growth. Is American perfect? Far from it but it is much better than any viable alternative…go study history and see how bloody it is and compare it to the post-WW2 relative peace and global security that has been enjoyed led by an American backed security order. We’ve been so fortunate to live through this atypical time of peace and prosperity that you don’t even know what it was like before it.

@PaulDavis-ep6tn

Жыл бұрын

America is ruled by its military industrial complex. America thinks it has to rule the world but this time it's not going to end well.

@loudseik9997

Жыл бұрын

Coming from someone in the Balkans, America was sent by God himself to end the 10 years of Serbs terrorizing everybody in the region!

Unherd gets better and better in helping us understanding the world around us in a balanced, neutral way. My favourite go to channel for information. Thanks Freddie.

@FlygandeSjuk

Жыл бұрын

So "neutral".. the dude did not even ask him one critical question..

@tobiMelka

Жыл бұрын

@@FlygandeSjuk, have you seen it all?? There's definitely one, at 20:41.

@merihtouman1169

Жыл бұрын

The Duran is excellent also

In his recent rallies, President Trump called for urgent peace negotiations to stop this insane war asap.

@patrickh9937

Жыл бұрын

The madman!

@jamesbaldock7186

Жыл бұрын

Trump doing what the Russians want. Shocking!

@daniel.lopresti

Жыл бұрын

The most peaceful and least hawkish of a few decades worth of US leaders, for sure...

@andreimustata5922

Жыл бұрын

@@daniel.lopresti You are referring to the guy who assassinated Soleimani and killed the nuclear deal with Iran, versus Biden who offers support to a country to defend itself.

@patrickh9937

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesbaldock7186 lol, you actually still believe that fairy tale?

Finally. This is the unherd I like. Wise people silenced in the MSM. Thanx for your effort Freddy.

@rhysholdaway

Жыл бұрын

Dumb people are also platformed on MSM.

@OrwellsHousecat

Жыл бұрын

This guy is all ESG

@rhysholdaway

Жыл бұрын

@@OrwellsHousecat is ESG a good or bad thing? Genuine curiosity. Had to Google and seems something to do with environmental and social governance.

@OrwellsHousecat

Жыл бұрын

@@rhysholdaway keep researching, there's a lot to find, both positive and negative. Likewise Totalitarianism.

@rhysholdaway

Жыл бұрын

@@OrwellsHousecat it's seems bit of a Rorschach test. My immediate thought was that ESG sounds good, can prob infer from this my political leanings. That said aware these things can be deceptive - in uk we have the European Research Group, for example, who very anti-EU.

EXCELLENT interview. Good questions and Sacks is spot on. Thanks.

Here in Ireland I used to get milk from my neighbor John, until one day some people said he was bad, I had been getting my milk from John for over 25 years and it was always ok, but now my government tells me I have to buy my milk from uncle Sam, at 3 times the price. I thought I would try to get milk from John again as the wife wasn't too happy. Well they blew up John's milk pipes!!!! Ring a bell anyone?

@Mezzo396

Жыл бұрын

An Irishman defending imperalism. At least we know your ancestors shagged some Englishmen.

@olemanyounger5040

Жыл бұрын

Want to know who blew up the gas pipes? Who changed their behavior afterwards? Russia did. Oops.

@rebeccadanvers884

Жыл бұрын

🤣 Who is benefiting from this war?

@zolandia5262

Жыл бұрын

No

@rebeccadanvers884

Жыл бұрын

@@marions7423 john's neighbough, Azov squadron, killed 14000 people in Dombass. And then started to make business with Sam, who is now selling you milk.

That was an awesome interview. I’m so glad I took the time to listen. Freddie you are an excellent interviewer. Cheers from the US🇺🇸

Reminder that Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine convinced them to axe a peace deal that would have prevented the whole thing from starting in the first place

@Jay...777

Жыл бұрын

Neocons rule OK. This war is not about Ukraine. There's a new Russian govt in waiting in Poland. European people are not members of NATO, they are prisoners of NATO. Only Europeans are dumb enough to believe the US can ever be an ally. lol

@adagietto2523

Жыл бұрын

Actually that is rubbish, Johnson was in no position or 'axe' any peace deal even if he had wanted to, which he didn't.

@fujohnson8667

Жыл бұрын

@@adagietto2523 just saying it’s rubbish doesn’t make it so.

@conscious_being

Жыл бұрын

@@adagietto2523 Of course, BoJo/UK never had any such capability or authority. BoJo was just a messenger boy for the US.

@drakonsdi

Жыл бұрын

Did Boris Johnson personally told you that????? 🤡🤡🤡

thank you for this great interview! i wish more and more people think this way

Thank you, David! This is the first time I've felt a shred of optimism of the technocrats taking over.

@macnicolson5452

Жыл бұрын

The problem with finding a sane solution to the conflict lies in the fact that there exist within the US administration, a host of egoistic, immature political players who think they are Cersei or Tyrion Lancaster reborn - idiots who grew up on computer games and Marvel fantasies and whose Daddys funded their Harvard and Yale college degrees. They think that regime change in Russia and the subsequetn encircling of China is a brilliant idea worthy of the admiration of Daddy.

@tinetannies4637

Жыл бұрын

Don't let one wealthy technocrat being reasonable in one moment seduce you. They're not your friends, and they're not looking out for you.

@jodyrosenblatt7274

Жыл бұрын

@@tinetannies4637 Don't worry. In the words of Britney Spears: I'm not that innocent! Especially after all the shit that they have put us through.

@tinetannies4637

Жыл бұрын

@@jodyrosenblatt7274 100%

Great discussion as always

@jamesbaldock7186

Жыл бұрын

Stacks wasn't challenged on a single statement. I've seen a better discussion in Pravda.

@tia904

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesbaldock7186 You have no objective challenge, throwing a cheap label is a repartee of a kindergarten's level ... Childish.

@jamesbaldock7186

Жыл бұрын

@@tia904 hello account with no subs and just comments. How does it feel knowing that you can comment for Putin all you want, but the Ukrainians will continue to liberate their land one step at a time. You'll be the next one conscripted to the meat grinder, to fight a war for a sick old man. You should do less commenting and go buy your babushka some sugar before you're handed your papers.

Thanks Freddy for allowing David give his views. I for one consider that his views are just good ordinary sense. However I think it takes a bit of reading history to understand how his opinions are formed.

@ThePtoleme

Жыл бұрын

His views are good ordinary sense only if you ignore half of the facts and pick only what suits you.

@fujohnson8667

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePtoleme sounds exactly like what the Pro endless war side do 🤣

@herbfst

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePtoleme Where is your proof? Last I checked he made it clear that there have been warning signs of what the west has been doing for almost a decade and everyone conveniently ignored them. People love to ignore their own errors and attempt to quietly sneak away. Sounds like my two kids fighting and as a parent you know the one started it is the one coming crying to you. We now have articles asking for amnesty for all of the mistakes made during COVID as if there wasn't an entire other side raising the flag from day one pointing it all out.

@lolcat5303

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePtoleme Projecting? Yeah, you probably are.

@eliasvlanton3097

Жыл бұрын

@@lolcat5303 What facts is he ignoring?

Referendum was held and the people from Donbas voted to be part of Russia. They waited for 8 years for this.

@ingabaranauskiene5889

Жыл бұрын

Yes, they voted - at the point of a gun. And over a million fled before the "referendum". And some 5 thousands of those who remained were murdered...

Under the Minsk agreement, the Donbass didn't want to actually leave Ukraine, but to have autonomy. In that part of the world, an autonomous region is just like a state in the USA. It looks after its own internal affairs but remains within the main country. However, Ukraine central decided to force the matter militarily. Going back to NATO / Kosovo, the procedure used by Russia is almost a dead copy. Note that the Kosovo event went to the International Court of Justice which opined that a group of people may leave the main country without the permission of the main country and may call for assistance in the matter.

This "Silicon Valley mogul" comes across as genuine and I agree with most of what he says. But it makes me uneasy to see the amount of respect we give millionaires and billionaires simply because they have been successful in business - as if that makes them wiser or more intelligent than the rest of us. The more "puppety" our politicians become, the more democracy crumbles, the more the main political parties talk in unison, the more people look up to the super-rich, simply because they are super rich. I wish people would start to think for themselves and take a bit of responsibility over their lives, instead of looking for leadership among the very groups that have got us into this shocking mess. The UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office says "The UK has committed £2.3bn of military support to Ukraine this year." This at a time when the Government is saying it will have no option but to raise taxes. Looking to the super-rich to get us out of this mess is like embracing feudalism.

@THINKincessantly

Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed that read, several great points!

@TedATL1

Жыл бұрын

When people make a pile of money --- either in business or Hollywood---- they then think they should be moral and political gurus to the world --- look at Soros and his pretensions to being a philosopher, much less the half-educated airheads in Hollywood spouting off all the time.

@carinjohansson41

Жыл бұрын

I look up to anyone who resists the dangerous authoritarianism, simple as that. Rich or poor; it still takes courage. And I refute your claim that it is the rich that got us into this mess of cancel culture. We did it to ourselves, every time in a classroom at university or by the coffee machine at work, when we didn't stand up for democracy and free speech.

@jozsefnemeth935

Жыл бұрын

​@@carinjohansson41 well said, I should add: despite that everyone knows the story about the emperor s new dress...

@jozsefnemeth935

Жыл бұрын

​@@Seline Ukrainian had the choice of the Minsk accord, instead they introduced language laws and continued the bombarding of the Donbas. USA kept turning the pot. What a blessing to the dollar! Europe and Ukraine especially sucks.

I am a simple man. I see David Sacks talk, I know tremendous voice of reason comes to my ears.

What a surprise to see David Sacks on your show. I listen to the All-In podcast. This was a great interview. Thanks for sharing these opposing MSM views, it’s bitterly necessary.

@daniel.lopresti

Жыл бұрын

Do you consider "MSM views" to be opposed as a matter of course? What exactly is unpalatable in the mainstream ("public") view that Ukraine alone has the prerogative to determine its own future and protect its borders, in a war where clearly Russia is the blatantly obvious aggressor and is acting in complete lack of good faith, not to mention resorting to horrendous inhumane tactics?

@olemanyounger5040

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't oppose Russian MSM views though. Odd.

@DaveJMorten

Жыл бұрын

@@daniel.lopresti Ukraine should have the prerogative. But when nuclear war is on the table, some more folks come to the decision making table. MSM has spun the narrative, that Putin woke up one day and suddenly decided to start a war, like David Sacks explains here. The 8 years before have not been addressed in this situation, at least not by our Swiss media.

@DaveJMorten

Жыл бұрын

@@olemanyounger5040 I’m keeping an open mind here. What I don't like is, when any media (Russian or ours) paints a black and white picture. That always means, there is more going on, than what meets the eye.

@olemanyounger5040

Жыл бұрын

@@DaveJMorten It's really not that complicated. Generally people who are afraid of the truth muddy the water.

Thank you! We desperately need more influential people who speak up!

Thank you, Freddie for your interview. Always happy to listen and are more informed. I myself contacted the White House to not allow troops on the ground. The money sent, I am must remember I am not happy with. Thanks again.

@martynpage1794

Жыл бұрын

I believe the issue is that Putin believes Russia is fighting NATO not Ukraine. I’m interested in your thoughts on what the US should do in the event Russia invades a NATO country, Poland for example?

@olemanyounger5040

Жыл бұрын

You could just listen to Russian propaganda and be as informed as David Sacks.

@allanhutton

Жыл бұрын

@@martynpage1794 at that moment complete isolation and easy working visas for Russia experts in the west with large financial insentives would end Russia for generations.

@Rayunicorn1

Жыл бұрын

@@marions7423 That’s far into the future. One thing at a time.

@awesomeavengersfaithfulcan8543

Жыл бұрын

Ok, thanx for that, 'Karen Weaver'

The sheer irony that the idea of peace negotiations are regarded as a crime.... It's everything Morals, Intellect and Humanity upside down!

@adagietto2523

Жыл бұрын

You mean surrender negotiations? Putin hhas already said that the areas of Ukraine that he has annexed, and does not even wholly control, are not up for negotiation.

@user-1mrndslvd8h

Жыл бұрын

"Whether you like it or don't like it, bear with it, my beauty," Putin said. I sincerely hope that you are never forced to negotiate with a rapist.

@Mezzo396

Жыл бұрын

What peace is sustainable, they dont even control the parts they claim theyve anexed, and would likely use the time to simply rearm and come back in a few years to finish the job in Ukraine. Demanding Ukraine sue for peace when all that likely means is their doom in the coming decades is the act of a moron.

@WildPh1

Жыл бұрын

Putin is a patological liar and a war criminal according to international law. His demands will give crime justice. How can anyone even trust him? He will only see that as a sign of weakness. Give him a little something and he will only want more.

@jamesbaldock7186

Жыл бұрын

Zelenski has repeatedly stated he is ready to negotiate when Russia withdraws from the occupied territories. Putin can do this in an instant.

Great interview. Thank you for providing inspiring and important conversations.

You don't have to be championing Putin or his actions in Ukraine or elsewhere in order to see the far greater sense in putting an end to this war. A war that should never have started. Deliberately conflating things has become a modern day ruse whereby arguing for x automatically apparently means you're condoning y when this so often clearly isn't the case.

Mr Sacks with respect, history does repeat itself.

@kennyegor7503

Жыл бұрын

Western regime change operation after western regime change operation after western regime change .......................

This is brilliant journalism. I’m so grateful I’ve found this discourse. Finally, someone talking sense. Thank you! Redacted are also doing great work in this field, just thought they also deserve a shout out. Once again, thank you for discussing this issue in a grown up manner, it’s very refreshing, and important work. 👌

@bobbobby3747

Жыл бұрын

LMAO no it isn’t. This is pure right wing traitor lies. You and everyone like you needs to GTFO of America…. Dirty traitor pukes.

@supertramp6011

Жыл бұрын

@@bobbobby3747 I’m not in America dumbass. No idea why your corrupt,warmongering nation feels the need to start and fund wars all around the world- could it be anything to do with putting money in the bank accounts of your lying, thieving politicians,perhaps?

@bobbobby3747

Жыл бұрын

@@supertramp6011 OK then F**** off you stupid animal. This is lying propaganda and you support it. Parasites who spread lies like this are useless to the world so I don’t give a F where you are. Support those Nazi scum. You deserve the same fate as those Nazis.

@dominicvioli7098

Жыл бұрын

Redacted? Those fugative Russian propagandist are a disgrace.

Thank you, as always a great interview, glad to know there is still hope, and that more and more people are waking up to what is actually going on. I will definitely share this.

Isn’t it ironic that talking about peace is actively disparaged, deliberately misinterpreted and ultimately silenced.

@soya7955

Жыл бұрын

Russia could have peace if it wanted by removing themselves from the country they have invaded.

@davidmacdonald1695

Жыл бұрын

This isn’t about peace. It is about letting an autocrat run riot. It is rightly disparaged.

@sue.F

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmacdonald1695 one doesn’t necessarily preclude the other.

@shooster5884

Жыл бұрын

Is it being silenced? Discussing potential diplomatic solutions... If one can think of one in this case? ... is different from openly supporting Putin and hoping for the demise and destruction of the European and US economies and democracies. I think an open debate on diplomatic solutions is healthy... if only to tease out what is and isn't feasible. But did the tech giants speak out against big pharma control of the covid vaccine narrative? Can one trust powerful corporations and multi billionaires any more than trust one or other of the political parties they finance? Where Europe is concerned, Putin's invasion of Ukraine has been a wake up call to massively rebuild it's military capabilities and independent energy security. Europe is caught right now between dependence on Russia that was for low cost energy and The USA now for high cost energy supply. Maybe the Russian people will by next year wake up to the need to overthrow their government and their soldiers will just go home... Or China will decide to take back Siberia.. Or some oligarchs will take over in a coup in Russia and open some realistic diplomatic channels because they want to get back to making money and war isn't proving the way to do it. I don't think diplomacy is in Putin's vocabulary.

The bottom line is, " Some don't want a solution. " it isn't hard to guess!

@jamesbaldock7186

Жыл бұрын

And Putin leads that camp. He just needs to withdraw and sanctions and reparations can be negotiated.

@zolandia5262

Жыл бұрын

The solution is Putin withdraws and pays compensation to the Ukrainians for his unprovoked war of agression

@just_another32

Жыл бұрын

exactly!!!!

@just_another32

Жыл бұрын

$$$$$$

@wtice4632

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesbaldock7186 bless your heart naive child

Amazing content. Please keep it up.

@jozsefnemeth935

Жыл бұрын

​@Throughthe lookingglass truth often hurts

@ricochet2977

Жыл бұрын

@Throughthe lookingglass Lord Hastings Lionel Ismay was NATO’s first Secretary General, a position he was initially reluctant to accept. By the end of his tenure however, Ismay had become the biggest advocate of the organisation he had famously said earlier on in his political career, was created to “keep the Soviet Union out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”

@ricochet2977

Жыл бұрын

@Throughthe lookingglass And what?

Important discussion. Thank you, gentlemen!

Absolutely well said. Thank you. Both of you.

Thank you for this interview, best in a long time on the war issue

As we, and this interview try to deal with facts, the philosopher Bertrand Russell when asked in 1959 what messages he would like to give to future generations mentioned one under an intellectual perspective - "consider only the facts, not what we wish to believe, or believe as socially beneficial, if it were believed". The very real problem as it has always been is in estabishing fact, and never more so in these times of media entangled politics, in effect offering a ‘garden’ of facts which are selectively picked for argument. In addition, Marshall McLuhan’s ‘The Media IS the Message’ (1964) has never been more to the fore, making established fact almost impossible to achieve, separate and verify apart from media influence. Secondly, insecurity was mentioned during the interview, which needs to be understood as something shared by both perpetrators and those effected. Presidents, who brook no opposition, by any means, are indubitably pathologically insecure - a real concern in a country like Russia having one of the largest nuclear arsenals in the world. We can look at the history and try to reason, but, in this instance, and as in so many other acts in the ‘Play of the World’, we are arguably dealing with an illness which takes the greatest of understanding and skill to manage/ negotiate and resolve.

The diplomatic solution to end this war is very simple: "Go back to your country and leave me alone in mine".

Freddie is among the best journalists of today

@marcindobiasz8588

Жыл бұрын

Yes ! at least Freddie asks questions that BBC and Skynews and their so-called journalists wouldn’t ever ask !

@barrysharp8188

Жыл бұрын

it's a low bar

@supertramp6011

Жыл бұрын

@@barrysharp8188 Give credit where it’s due my friend- we should all try and encourage any honest journalists wherever we find them. And yes, the bar is depressingly low, but there are some good people out there trying to expose the truth. The world is very poorly informed by our mainstream media nowadays. Almost all TV news is little more than propaganda now,this even extends into advertising and film.

Nothing is as relieving and breathing in life into one's bones as someone who speaks common sense to facts in the world of cancel culture. David Sacks, sage indeed.

In the end, then, everything should be arranged in accordance with American interests? The sheer arrogance of such a suggestion is breathtaking.

Precisely how much of the US would these people give up to a savage invader?

A great guest - David Sachs - good work

Alaska is very different from rest of America, is America going to hand it back

@erict.35

Жыл бұрын

Yes. 20 years from now, Chinese-Mexican-Brasilian military alliance will change everything. USA will trade Alaska for Russian neutrality.

@CleanPowerAuto

Жыл бұрын

If 51% of Alaskans vote to leave US and join Canada or Russia then US will happily give it back, according to Elon Musk and this guy. Reality is much different though…

@wtice4632

Жыл бұрын

What a dumb strawman arguement

@ChrysanthsMum

Жыл бұрын

No. It is also nowhere near the same situation. But nice try.

@Mezzo396

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrysanthsMum If Russia financed and trained Alaskan rebels, sent them weapons and their own "undeclared" forces to support an uprising against the US and fought against the US military should the US simply give up Alaska if Russia held a referendum on the parts the rebels controlled? Thats literally how this entire situation unfolded for Ukraine.

Great interview, totally agree on his logic and sensible thinking.

If the American people elect a leader who is willing to work with the Russians toward peace we can make it out. But sending more and more weapons and mercenaries is only escalating things

@jamesbaldock7186

Жыл бұрын

An American leader who bends the knee to dictators? God forbid.

@olemanyounger5040

Жыл бұрын

Russia is a big North Korea. No one cares about Russia. They are a joke now. Even China is starting to consider cutting off eastern regions of Russia for themselves.

@daniel.lopresti

Жыл бұрын

How in the world could one get the faintest idea that Putin is genuinely interested in any sort of dialogue or compromise??

@rebeccadanvers884

Жыл бұрын

@Throughthe lookingglass what did your presidents choose in Saudi Arabia? or in Afghanistan for that matter, democracy??? Come on, I cannot believe you are that gullible, or that you come to believe that the rest of the world have not a clue. Zelenski is as warmongering as Putin. His role is lecturing every leader who does not do as zelenski pleases, and ask for more weapons or for nuclear bombs over Moscú. Kiev is not as inocent as it looks

@offshoretomorrow3346

Жыл бұрын

It's not 'escalating things' - it's stopped your buddy from invading all Ukraine and it ceasing to exist.

That's so great how you keep finding people who know absolutely nothing about Ukraine to keep coming and talking about Ukraine.

Are You Distracted from how the Worlds economy has been dismantled over the last 3 years Yet ? ?

@Pyasa.shaitan

Жыл бұрын

He’s worth $200 million; He lives in Richestan

Interesting interview! One of your bettter ones, Freddie! I really liked that you posed some difficult (but not too difficult) questions. I understand that there must be a strict time limitation and you have to do the best with what you can. I also appreciate what the guest said and especially what he didn't. I clicked on the video without noticing when it was released (1 month ago). I read in the description that it was recorded on the 26th of October. Why is this important? Because Mr. Sacks referred the Minsk Agreements and the fact that they were not uphold. Funny enough, a week ago or so, we had the Merkel interview which blatantly admitted that those accords were never gonna be honored and that they were just buying time to arm Ukraine... Why is this important? Because it proves to Russia that it cannot trust any deals brokered by the west and it will be up to them to fix the problem. We have sabotaged our credibility too much and it's coming around to byte us in the a$$. Back to the guest: Mr Sacks is careful with his words. We must understand that this is not just a man who just happened to start reading stuff and figure out that the MSM narrative is misleading. He knows much more than he's showing. He's choosing his words, cautiously walking the line. Obviously, I don't think he's honest about his motivation. With 20/20 hindsight, I truly believe he had a good picture about what was about to happen with twitter, and what Musk was about to do. My theory is that, slowly, but surely, these technocrats will move away from the current political system to replace it with their own. There are some part of his answer that might age very well... we'll see...

@dominicvioli7098

Жыл бұрын

You are completely wrong with your assessment of merkels comments. She said nothing even close to what you stated. Not only that but it's clear that you are completely misrepresenting her words because they cancel each other out. You say on one hand that merkel said minsk would never be implemented. But then you also said they were only to buy time to arm Ukraine. Well which is it? Did the west never intend to implement minsk? Or did they plan to implement minsk in order to buy Ukraine the time it needed to. Prepare? You can have it both ways. Also your assertion that Russia cannot trust the west is laughable and ignorant. Russia has failed to honor a single agreement it has ever signed onto. Time and time again we see Russia or the Soviet Union break treaties arraignments, accords ect. Do you have any idea how many they broke just in the invasion of Ukraine alone? Meanwhile the west and the United States has honored every one off thier.

Great discussion indeed, and it is really good to know that there are still people of influence who have not lost their power of reason and now becoming vocal about it.

Refreshing to hear a more nuanced examination of factors at play in this highly polarized view of conflict in Ukraine. This definitely didn't just start 2/24/22. Realpolitik perspectives have been systematically vilified, even that toad Kissinger called for negotiations for peace. Some may say David is simply a capitalist protecting his investments, ultimately peace is the most sensible option for everyone's best interests.

@davorbuklijas1777

Жыл бұрын

No shit Sherlock. Peace is in everyone's interest. So after Russia attacked the country, killed thousands, flattened cities, raped women - the problem is we didn't give them what they want? So you drinking beer in your house can act clever by saying well why didn't you just ask the fucking murderous shit for peace? Cause that's the problem. FU.

@alekzgavriel-russo7453

Жыл бұрын

Short term peace is in nobodies interest. Not to mention enabling. Also Kissinger retracted his statement

On the point of big tech censorship and financial starvation, its becoming clear how this will play out. Look at Canada and what they did to the truckers. They forced and created multiple economies and millions are supporting them. Some apparent, mostly not. Some will fail, the strong one will survives. Bartering is back too. Its kind of interesting to see which one will come forward and wipe out the big-tech monopolies or even complete governments.

@rebeccadanvers884

Жыл бұрын

No matter the casualties. The Canadian truckers won their battle. They tipped the balance of the totalitarian madness we were about to get into. The mainstream media kept silent about the Canada affair but the elites got scared, because people were standing their ground.

@OrwellsHousecat

Жыл бұрын

Are we China yet? Getting there

@qigong1001

Жыл бұрын

@@OrwellsHousecat Strange that marxist or social-fascists don't learn from history.

Read C.I.A's own declassified documents regarding Ukraine and US involvment in the region,highly interesting.

The solution is not really about Ukraine. End NATO and stop making war on Russia.

Level headed man. We seem to be more vulnerable than we ever realised to being manipulated, but the broad net that the internet casts manages to present enough of a mix of points of view that it helps us tremendously to find out more and think for ourselves. It's certainly easier and more comfortable to think with the hurd but once you see things differently, you can't un-see them..

@maryhunt3083

Жыл бұрын

@ Catherine Wallis, thanks for your point of view, you put into words what l couldn't but knew it.

the pain in freddie's eyes during that ad lol

@OrwellsHousecat

Жыл бұрын

🤣😂 He deserves it

@caro1ns

Жыл бұрын

Like a king being forced to use a public lavatory!

@soniavadnjal7553

Жыл бұрын

@@caro1ns 🙂

I totally agree with him. I myself have been closely following the situation in Ukraine since 2014 and I get mad whenever I discuss this matter with people, who really think that this conflict started in February of this year and who also think that mad Putin started it out of a bad mood or whatsoever. Great interview! Thank you

I am not sure why entrepreneurs' opinions on the war in Ukraine matter. Most have little knowledge of the region's history, language, culture, and of what the origins and long-term impacts of the conflict are. He is naive at best, and possibly much worse.

English man i know married 17 years to Ukrainian living there most of the time, recently evacuated back to UK told me how he had toured much of the eastern region of Poland and for some years massive weaponry and troop build up there was plain to see. Ostensibly hidden away in forrested regions, but everyone knew of it. I don't think such a 'provocation' can be ignored in the obvious most complex equation. And I have listened to many talks such as this including all the Meersheimer ones and see some validity in both mainstream 'sides' and excellent comments here too. The psychogeography maybe we ignore. No one talks of the Poland buildup. Sat in Kremlin, map showing the massive country of Russia and Poland so small in comparison flashing TO THEM like a very bright warning beacon and of course from their perspective a state next door Ukraine where potentially the same could happen ... The polish armaments aren't aimed at Botswana or Iceland for god's sake, only one conceivable raison d'etre ..I'm a pacifist and decry brutality on both sides .. but I ain't daft and not is Putin I do think NATO / USA / UK whomsoever have pushed it far enough so much hardware thought central europe Walk away..... back out... help out a quasi partitioned future post treaty Ukraine as arguably " we" prodded the hornets nest...it didn't come to us to get prodded... And we must learn to back off or at least move no nearer. After all we learned his military might not what assumed...we need not carry on towards the nest.... so stopping further bloodshed is all that matters. Maybe accept Putin needed to make his point factoring in what to him are several states in effect all the same...just bases for our machinery along an expanding band.. .. and we learned where his line was, so that's enough. I suspect rational history will see in not too distant future that's all that really happened..

Impressive. differenciated and intelligent thoughts of Mr. Sacks. And great interview style as always. thanks for uploading

it's crazy how such a common sense and reasonable position could be considered fringe. tells you a lot about the bizarre state of american society in 2022.

Good interview with a smart guest who has healthy common sense.

I am living in Europe in the year of 2022 I am afraid for my life and well-being to just say my opinion on many subjects not only Ukraine conflict. My question is: what does it say about Western Europe pictured on TV as the greatest democratic system in the world?

I usually really like these interviews, but in this case I didn't feel that Freddie challenged his guest as much or as well as he usually does. When I first heard the Mearsheimer take on the war, it was quite persuasive too, but there are problems with his perspective. I won't attempt to outline them here, but for a well reasoned critique of it, and reasoned takes on the war and Russian political culture, I highly recommend taking a look at Vlad Vexler's channels. This is his critique of Mearsheimer: kzread.info/dash/bejne/m3aiya6ofMbLeZM.html

@jessiejb4684

Жыл бұрын

I watched the link you provided. I’ll refrain from commenting but instead offer this link to Nicolai petro, an American academic who has been living in Ukraine from 2013 to study the country’s politics. The lecture is about putting the Ukraine crisis in context. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gGytqpSepd3WdbA.html Also another of his lectures on Minsk agreement and the politics behind its failure to implement kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3do1qSNerGefLg.html

@slavomirakrasna2111

Жыл бұрын

No offence Henrik, yet when I “criticise” someone for painting a tree, it doesn’t change anything about the canvas being A TREE🙄

Oh look, it's a member of the "gullible right" who Douglas Murray described when you had him on The only notion I've ever agreed with him on, in fact

Good interview. Clear and open understanding of the realities of the US/Ukraine mess. Good to see Freddie slowly being red pilled.. not swallowing the msm line as he used to.

@xylemrays671

Жыл бұрын

We all know which side you would have stood on during ww2.

@soniag4516

Жыл бұрын

​@@xylemrays671 ww2 no one had nuclear heads pointing one another aye

@earthflute2248

Жыл бұрын

@@xylemrays671 Extraordinary stupid comment. Not engaging with the content of my comment, but instead being derogatory. For what reason would you make such a comment?

@bogdanpopescu1401

Жыл бұрын

@@xylemrays671 speak for yourself, you do not represent us all

Great analysis by David Sachs.

David Sacks was the best guest I heard yet on your show.

@just_another32

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't go that far, but it is an okay interview

You really should interview Jeffery Sachs too. He is really interesting and engaging. David Sacks was interesting too... and it's good to hear someone not just shouting the mainstream media narrative..... Unlike your interview with that Russian guy a while back. Think you had been duped by the 'herd' until a bit of time after that Freddie.

Thank you for being for peace ✌️

I am grateful for all words of reason that seek to understand the root cause of the war, solve the fundamental issues, and stop the killing and suffering. Send all state department bureaucrats to the front if they insist on continuing the war.

Really smashing out the content on UnHerd!

Very good interview, To hear a balanced and realistic view to this conflict is very positive👍

Another excellent interview by UnHerd and good to see David Sacks is moral enough to take a view independent of the establishment.

Mr SACKS you're excellent, a valiant speaker. May the heavens help you in your bold assessments of the domestic and foreign politics. You're really informed and have refused to see things from only the western loops. That's great of you sir. Continue being blessed.

I am sick to death - of dealing with American interests..we have had to put up with this idea for years -America has funded conflict throughout the world - using the excuse - in American interests. We need America to sort their problems out at home and leave the world alone to sort out its own problems...

@glennmitchell9107

Жыл бұрын

If the U.S. truly did stay at home, minding its own business, All of Europe, including Great Britain, would be speaking German right now and China and every other country in the Far East would be slave colonies of Japan. Be careful what you wish for.

@glondikeink2167

Жыл бұрын

Today’s world is so interconnected that you cannot run away from other people’s problems. Even if you choose to “leave the world sort out its own problems”( though the phrazing sounds as if America was not part of the world, which it is, and as if it did not have its doings in it, which it did), it will impact you one way or the other. The times when one could just leave the problems behind is over, unfortunately.

@DirkJacobsz

Жыл бұрын

@@glennmitchell9107 Aagh that is a straw man argument.. and we are approaching that now - with US domestic and foreign policy- the US has stuck its nose in everywhere in the World.. South America- brought "American democracy " Rhodesia - Libya - Irag..Chagos..and has it really improved anything..

@glennmitchell9107

Жыл бұрын

@@DirkJacobsz It could be worse. Russia and China are not paragons of anti-colonialism. Do you imagine that if the U.S. and had not opposed communist adventurism over the last 70 years that Russia and China would not have enslaved their smaller neighbors. And when I say enslaved, I don't mean giving them low paying manufacturing jobs or developing and buying their raw natural resources. I mean actual slave labor and the elimination of private property. How is my point about WWII a straw man argument? Your point was about American intervention, and I addressed the most significant intervention in modern history.

@DirkJacobsz

Жыл бұрын

@@glennmitchell9107 Shew Glenn - I hear you - I was brought up with the "We have to fight communism" mentality at all costs - it was driven into me as a kid - Think of Korea - Vietnam - Cuba Bay of Pigs - got to stop those commies- I fought against Russian and Chinese backed insurgents for 3 years - how did that work out...fighting communism.. The USA and the world outsourced all its manufacturing to China - and its debt. And the world watched as manufacturing and jobs collapsed around the world. Go to Africa now - China virtually owns Africa... China owns Sri Lanka - Maldives - China is building an airbase right near Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean - Vanuatu - now American interests in Ukraine are taking us to the brink of nuclear war - why cause the USA and NATO expanded it's reach - in American interests.. straw man was the fact the last time American intervention had any significance was 80 yrs ago.. Look at USA record in Korea Vietnam -Somalia - Afghanistan..not so good.

People here are incredibly dense. A non-violent free referendum was held whether or not to join a new state. Every single part of Ukraine voted in majority to join. Pretending that a military conflict for 8 years with parts of that country held by hostile foreign powers isnt going to see the previous loyalist citizens die or leave disproportionately to Ukrainian held territory is mental. The vote is obviously not reflective of any reality other than the fact that Russia has victimized Ukrainian citizens in an area they violently took to the point where they are outnumbered. That is not a fair vote and no other Western nation would stand for it. But the contrarians here think theyre so wise for being contraian.

@robbiewizz658

Жыл бұрын

Absolute rubbish

May peace prevail

Astonished by how these Silicon Valley guys see the world. We want peace because is better for business and after all is in the best interest of the US, this is too minor and too far away from us. Great. So because of these reasons we allow an autocrat in a decaying power to invade a smaller neighbor and conquer parts of its territory agains all international laws. What makes you think that other autocrats in other regions will not do the same? What makes you think that Putin will stop there? Maybe we should all read again what happened in Europe in 1939 - 1945. These rich guys think like feudal lords and see the world as territory to conquer, dangerous people. Thanks for bringing this specimen to the program

Freddy Sayers, David Sacks. It's top banana 🍌.....

2 words ... Pray For World Peace 🌎

@evolassunglasses4673

Жыл бұрын

That's 4

@felixmoyoedonmi

Жыл бұрын

We don't need world peace. We need a peaceful humanity. We are too violent and we should totally self-destruct to make way for a peaceful species.

@plaubelmakina8916

Жыл бұрын

@Melvin Deeply I think that was Brandon. lol

@davidscully2414

Жыл бұрын

Russia will take all territory east of the kharkov odessa line. And full denazification of all ukraine

@soniag4516

Жыл бұрын

More fervently than ever before.

Right!👍 + The economist Jeffrey Sachs explain all that very well and clearly in his intervieuws as well!

This is a very US centric discussion. Eminent people/politicians in Europe, Asia have said that this war can only end with a negotiated settlement.

5:01 This bloke picks and chooses what suits him. He forgot to mention the 1991 independence referendum, where all regions including Crimea voted for independence. He forgot to mention the Budapest agreement in 1994 under which Russia committed itself to respect Ukrainian borders, including Crimea, in exchange for its nuclear disarmament. He ignores the fact that in the last general election in Ukraine there was no significant difference between voting in the east and west of the country.. Apparently he was also not informed that in 2014 the militias were organised by FSB agents, like Girkin, and that the Russian army then directly intervened when Ukraine was going to restore order.

@alexanderyozzo

Жыл бұрын

“forgot to mention” you expect him to list 30+ years of historical events? At least he is offering more context and history than most all “news” If you think guys like this are the problem… God help us

@johanswede8200

Жыл бұрын

Well written.

@allydea

Жыл бұрын

_Independence from the USSR_ is not the same as _hostile relations with the new Russian Federation._ And in that referendum, Crimea was a clear outlier, with a much smaller support for independence compared to the other oblasts. Also, things tends to change over the course of 25 years. Are you suggesting that Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk were in favor of the events that led to the change in government in 2014? Speaking of the more recent elections, not sure if you meant parliament or presidential, but in the case of Zelensky, why wouldn't the east of Ukraine vote for him? You know what his platform was, right? It seems typical for Ukrainians to put their full hope and trust in a political figure only for that confidence to erode in a matter of months. Before the Russian invasion, Zelensky's popularity had dropped by almost half. Who knows what it is currently, with all the censorship that exists in Ukraine.

@davidbarry6900

Жыл бұрын

The bigger issue that they ignore is that Russia simply has no credibility anymore in any non-violent negotiation. You cannot negotiate with a liar who repeatedly violates previous agreements. Furthermore, the idea of "self-determination" AFTER Russia has killed, imprisoned, or kidnaped the pro-Ukrainian sector of the population of the annexed regions is deeply flawed to the point of stupidity, never mind that this "solution" does not offer any reparations for damages and loss of life etc. to Ukraine. The only region that MIGHT be appropriate to negotiate over would be Crimea - and there, it seems like Russia should PAY some sort of agreed amount to Ukraine for a land purchase agreement, if they want to keep it. (Negotiations might need to include provision of water from the Dnieper river etc.) There are plenty of legal precedents for this, e.g. the Alaska purchase from Russia, or Louisiana purchase from France. PS: I don't see David Sacks as pro-Putin - just stupid. You don't appease a wife-beater by saying that you won't send the police around next time the wife screams.

@janekel8163

Жыл бұрын

@@alexanderyozzo Once you decide to be arbiter of peace you should indeed know the history of the conflict.

From the Musk tweet: "Below is the electoral map of 2012..." it's now 2022 and quite a bit has happened since then. Especially since February 24th this year

@ThePtoleme

Жыл бұрын

The last general election was in 2019 and the result is very different from 2012.

@jozsefnemeth935

Жыл бұрын

The interview explains it clearly that Ukraine abandoned the diplomatic solution, which was backed by Merkel and Holland, i.e. the EU leading powers: thei Minsk agreements. Now Ukraine is heading to a demographic disaster. Millions have left, or were annexed and the economy has collapsed. Fortunately the dollar is doing well. Investments fleeing from Europe, which sucks.

@Eugenia_-up2hu

Жыл бұрын

@@jozsefnemeth935 the diplomacy with dictator state os impossible. They only understand power. Putin is not a diplomat, he is a mafia clan’s father.

Great journalism as always. Thanks!

Bravo Mr Sachs for your thorough, concise and objective analysis.

This war is not about Ukraine!

So good to hear a nearly balanced view coming out of America. I say nearly, because, Sacks says that this invasion was barbaric and brutal, however, skips talking about the attempt to systematically annihilate the Russian speaking populace of the Donbass region, by the neo-Nazi Ukrainian regime, which America actively supports. Notwithstanding this, Sacks is one of the few sane and courageous voices that Americans would do well to support. Does it not occur to them, the insanity of US involvement in a conflict that is so far away and of little consequence? The US is a bit like what it would be if Calvin got his flamethrower for Christmas....

@georgesagan

Жыл бұрын

Russia Shill peddling lies.

@edennis8578

Жыл бұрын

@@georgesagan Ukraine bot, covering Biden's hiney so that he can protect his personal honeypot.

Fantastic interview.

Very good conversation. Well done.

I agree with a negotiated solution. But Ukraine and other European countries should be part of NATO after that.

Looking at it from purely US interests point of view as Sachs claims to, I can't see how rewarding Putin's jackbooted aggression over an Eastern European democracy in anyway serves US interests. That said, successfully stopping Putin's aggression is even more in the interests of the EU who should be providing a greater share of assistance to Ukraine.

@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304

Жыл бұрын

It would of course do the opposite. Forcing those under threat of Russian aggression to cut their losses and throw in their lot with Russia. Leaving the US with little to no influence in those countries. And a more aggressive and influential Russia.

OK, you want to talk about Mearsheimer and Sachs? Why don't we talk about Mearsheimer being at the University of Chicago which was the epicenter of the neoliberal agenda since the 70s. And Sachs was the greatest preacher of the neoliberal gospel to Russia during the fall of the soviet union. That gospel left all of Russia traumatized in the 90s on a level analogous with Germany in the 20s before they embraced Hitler. If you ask me, Mearsheimer and Sachs are trying to talk about NATO in order to cover up their own role in bringing about this catastrophe.

@JP-tq7ni

Жыл бұрын

They have admitted that their views have changed

Why is the US even there? Good view thanks for this discussion.

@djonfonsteen6331

Жыл бұрын

Those that run America haved caused so much debt globally the war machine they own too helps with replenishment and many deaths, thus making and saving money.

WE should mind our own business and WE should take care of our problems and people at home!

@dominicvioli7098

Жыл бұрын

The dumbest of all comments