I really enjoyed this conversation with David. Here's the outline: 0:00 - Introduction 7:13 - Top Gun 12:06 - Navy pilot career 24:14 - AI is the third brain of a jetfighter 40:37 - Sully 47:34 - Landing a jet fighter on a carrier 53:18 - What's it like to fly a jet fighter? 1:05:22 - Greatest plane ever made 1:11:04 - The Tic Tac UFO story 1:49:16 - Intelligent extraterrestrial life 1:53:30 - Why aren't UFOs investigated more seriously 1:59:52 - Tic Tac UFO details 2:07:55 - What do you think the Tic Tac was? 2:16:23 - SpaceX 2:30:01 - Response to Mick West Debunking 2:48:24 - Was the Tic Tac a secret military test? 3:00:07 - Is the government in possession of alien spacecraft? 3:25:28 - Interesting UFO sightings in history 3:39:55 - Advice for Young People 3:47:47 - Meaning of life

@jamiecraig1208

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this one lex 👍

@dndsmith1ify

3 жыл бұрын

Lex you are amazing.

@andreasdeluma521

3 жыл бұрын

I'm digging the Lex experience

@bhbluebird

3 жыл бұрын

Great job bringing up Mick West

@everready2903

3 жыл бұрын

4hrs!!! Wow!

Right now, there is an Alien pilot in alpha centaury telling the exact opposite story in an interstellar podcast: “Dude I was just chilling around and this cute human steam machine tried to catch up with me”

@rahul_sreedharan

3 жыл бұрын

That was great

@emmanuelgalvez4370

3 жыл бұрын

ha ha ha! iyoue right!!

@emmanuelgalvez4370

3 жыл бұрын

lets just hope he she it dont get offended...ha ha ha!!

@MartinHusak

3 жыл бұрын

What does it mean Right now? :D

@slpn9t

3 жыл бұрын

Best comment! Although I believe there American pilots or Nazis, or both! You get 100 of the best scientists and engineers on earth to work on the same thing, eventually the problem gets solved.

A man who has better understanding of aircraft than 99.9% of this world talking about Roswell, bluebook and being open about questioning things is amazing.

@Jdkieddj

Жыл бұрын

just like a government issued employee would who is hired to murk the waters.

@alxonpc9388

Жыл бұрын

@@Jdkieddj my theory exactly

@305backup

Жыл бұрын

​@@Jdkieddj also my second guess. Either military officials are sick of the cover ups, or the government wants us thinking aliens exist and that they dont want us to know.

@SebastianA.W.

Жыл бұрын

@@alxonpc9388 paranoia is one hell of condition when it comes to pattern recognition... but not everything is a set up... that said, when he told about the second jet staying up and him going down he called the whole ordeal a "story" hmmm arrr.. *paranoic instinct kicks in*

@alxonpc9388

Жыл бұрын

@@SebastianA.W. yea, my theory is that its US tech as I struggle to believe aliens are travelling light years to fly over an ocean beside the US, and since its usually the US where this happens, im pretty sure its an advanced US propulsion system which they were testing and lost control over

I think it was really cool that Lex avoided UFO questions the first hour. Super interesting hearing about being a fighter pilot.

@ToxicMrSmith

Жыл бұрын

Well given his comment of " this is great I can talk about something other than the damn tic tac " I would say that's a big indicator to talk about other shit

@james81693

Жыл бұрын

@@ToxicMrSmith I'm sure he was bombarded with enough questions about it to last a lifetime.

@ToxicMrSmith

Жыл бұрын

@@james81693 I can garuntee it. And it must be a bit soul destroying. As if a tiny little moment of time now overshadows his entire career.

@SpydrXIII

Жыл бұрын

it also helps add credibility to those who might need it.

@charlibiris

Жыл бұрын

Well played😂

The Commander could give multi-hour talks without ever mentioning UFO's and he'd still be just as interesting on pretty much any subject he choose to talk about.

@frankwestphal8532

8 ай бұрын

The depth of knowledge is amazing. I watched the podcast with Ryan Graves as well. I am thankful that we have people like this up in those aircraft doing what they do. I used to dream of doing it myself but I was told I'm too tall to ever fly a fighter jet. If I can't be up there, I'm happy that they can be, and thankful that they are as good at their jobs as they can possibly be. I'd trust these guys with my life. If not them, then who? They're the edge. Thank you military aviators!

@shellderp

4 ай бұрын

true, he didn't even really want to talk about the UFO, he was just pestered by his friends to do it

Finally a interviewer that allows us to know who David Fravor is. Great Job

@jonathancondor508

3 жыл бұрын

@@WontSeeReplies Lol the Moon is a hologram!

@joshuawitt1430

3 жыл бұрын

@@WontSeeReplies yeah everybody knows the moon is a hologram bruh

@elonsibir5029

3 жыл бұрын

1. + 2. Act Safe innocent human in 21st China Evil Genoside Camp. No judge, no sentances. Mass Torture, Rape, Organ harvesting, Human disappears Cremotory Plant! More 2 mln souls, More 380 Evil Camp. We can stop. Thank you Human!

@ajwysopal

3 жыл бұрын

Listen to him on Joe Rogan podcast as well. Great information as well. Listen to his consistency of the story

@8JFJK8

3 жыл бұрын

@@WontSeeReplies Lol you actually believe in the moon? Absolute clown.

Starts with top gun, ends with the meaning of life. And UFOSs inbetween. My type of podcast.

@JackDanielThe7th

3 жыл бұрын

Yup

@Wanker527

3 жыл бұрын

@@3dguy839 a man after my own heart

@elonsibir5029

3 жыл бұрын

Act Safe innocent human in 21st China Evil Genoside Camp. No judge, no sentances. Mass Torture, Rape, Organ harvesting, Human disappears Cremotory Plant! More 2 mln souls, More 380 Evil Camp. We can stop. Thank you Human!

@ianhearnden4471

3 жыл бұрын

@@RR-cm9re ..

@manuelhernandez2017

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😆

What an amazing human being. And Lex is so good at making the conversation comfortable, I love how humble yet intuitive he is.

I heard his story 6-7 times and I am always interested re-hearing it. Always interesting

I would not have guessed that Commander Fravor would show up on Lex' podcast, but I'm pleasantly surprised.

@dexterquotidian

3 жыл бұрын

Shows how open minded Lex is

@GiulianoGiacaglia

3 жыл бұрын

The UFOs are just an electromagnetic phenomena - see this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter

@envowedsyntropist2555

3 жыл бұрын

Giuliano Fin That hypothesis used to be much more robust. Not so much these days: www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/politics/pentagon-ufo-harry-reid-navy.html

@redpanda9367

3 жыл бұрын

Giuliano Fin saying UFO’s flat out don’t exist is just as arrogant as saying little green men from anywhere are definitely flying them.

@bright5801

3 жыл бұрын

am very impressed

Lex interviewing Bob Lazar, speaking scientist to scientist will constitute the ultimate podcast. Make it happen Lex!

@yelnaw

3 жыл бұрын

Great call but Lazar is elusive.

@HkFinn83

3 жыл бұрын

Sine Nomine I listened to an old Art Bell show and back then he was claiming to having masters degrees from MIT and Caltech. When he went on JRE he had changed this to ‘took some classes’. He’s getting closer to the truth at least.

@thinkingallowed6485

3 жыл бұрын

@@sinenomine4540 you need to educate yourself on this...Lazar's description of ufo technology corresponds to the movements of the Tic Tac.

@michaelgonsalves752

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe Rogan can help get them together

@0ldfashi0ned

3 жыл бұрын

​@@sinenomine4540 To be fair he's not been proven right (although he said things back then which are making increasingly more sense), but to say he's a scammer is certainly jumping the gun. Either way, someone with the intellectual capacity and interviewing skills of Lex can help surface more of the truth.

One of the most important UFO claims and conversation in general so far on KZread. Thanks Lex for make it done.

This is one to rewatch throughout the years. As I was driving around in between listening to it I realized how lucky I am to share some of David's world view. The world is abundant with excitement and good. Life is cool. Life is unique.

@elaineparry1179

8 ай бұрын

Hey!! Are you the same Jack Hartmann of "See It, Say It, Sign It" the letters of the alphabet!!? If yes, just know I think that video is amazing. The 5-yr-olds I watch in AfterSchool program pick up on the song and the signs after 2-3 views. I just visited my 2.5 yr old grandson, and he was signing after only 3 views. With him, I discovered your other videos - - he especially liked the Spanish colors song and when his dad got home he asked Daddy to play it. He giggled as he sang along making up the Spanish words 'cause he didn't know them yet.

Can we just say... I love the timeline marks on all the pods... great addition I’m sure time consuming

@meltee01

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed 💯

@StanHowse

2 жыл бұрын

/Agree.

@MrBillkaz

2 жыл бұрын

@@StanHowse agree

@LezliByrum

Жыл бұрын

The time stamps are auto generation.

I can't believe I was engaged for the entire 4 hours! You are fast becoming one on my favorite channels. I may start binge watching your older interviews to get me through these tough times. You are a breath of fresh air.

@questionmark5463

3 жыл бұрын

For me the most important thing is he doesn't talk over his guests. He has the curiosity and innocence of a child and wants to learn. That approach is great because it really does make people comfortable to teach him a lot. I f he ever interrupts... It's only to clarify a point or ask a question that the viewers are also wanting to ask. Easily one of my favorite podcasts.

@prince-solomon

3 жыл бұрын

The interviewer seems like he is about to fall asleep at any second. He has great guests but man... his style isn´t my favorite.

@jimm3370

3 жыл бұрын

@@prince-solomon I know what you mean- he is sooo low key that I found him hard to pay attn to. I first heard him on Rogan and thought, man! This guy's so low key how'm I gonna stay awake? Once I got used to his monotone, IDK, but the impact of the ideas he was discussing kind of bloomed in my head and I realized that it was like listening to Chomsky. Both men keep their egos out of the way in order to bring forth what's happening in their minds. Once I got used to it, this guy blew my hair back. But yeah, he's an acquired taste.

@jimm3370

3 жыл бұрын

Totally. I'm listening to his 'Day In The Life' and it's being super helpful for me to get my own work mojo back. Check it out.

@elonsibir5029

3 жыл бұрын

1. + 2. Act Safe innocent human in 21st China Evil Genoside Camp. No judge, no sentances. Mass Torture, Rape, Organ harvesting, Human disappears Cremotory Plant! More 2 mln souls, More 380 Evil Camp. We can stop. Thank you Human!

The coolest convo with him ever, I loved that it wasnt just a UFO show. He lived a dope life and I am glad he got to share so much more of it! Thanks Lex

The universe gave this guy the opportunity to watch something most of us will never see in our lifetime because he deserves it, sucha down to earth guy.

@_GandalfTheGrey_

Жыл бұрын

Actually he’s an above the earth guy 😉

@alpine0607

Жыл бұрын

ya, universe gave him an opportunity to observe a balloon :)

@davidharris4030

Жыл бұрын

1970s my mother did…………………

@bunnyban5365

Жыл бұрын

@@alpine0607 your brain is a ballon

@EricThompsonClimber

Жыл бұрын

Sean stated, quite matter-of-factly, that Lt. Cmdr. Fravor didn’t think the TicTac incident was actual. His exact words were that he thought it was “fake.” I sat for a moment in my car with a gobsmacked look on my face which, luckily for my tint, no one in traffic could see. Finally, I typed up a clarification text and asked: “What do you mean by he knew this was fake?” Sean replied: “He thought it was fake or our[s] and he was sure. Didn’t believe in anything past a black program and acted like he knew better.”

i am so happy that Fravor got to talk about more than just the tic-tac. you can just feel his joy in sharing his experience from a career that is outstanding regardless of UAP.

@goodlove9421

3 жыл бұрын

Have you seen this video of Joe reading Lex’s fortune?! 🔮 kzread.info/dash/bejne/p5OYucR8m5TefNY.html

@larrysouthern5098

3 жыл бұрын

I agree totally!!!

@RandyDiver1

3 жыл бұрын

Dave is a stand up guy. I used to work with him. It was a fun day when ever he was in the “office”.

@armyman7732

3 жыл бұрын

@@RandyDiver1 Prove it.

@RandyDiver1

3 жыл бұрын

P Peters You will have to depend on my word. It is the most valuable thing I have.

I would like to thank David Fravor for his service to our country and thanks for this interview.

@andyc8508

3 жыл бұрын

Id like to also thank him for contributing towards protecting our western way of life, greetings from the UK :)

@demo3456

3 жыл бұрын

fudge this pilot grow up

@ZombieCoGaming

3 жыл бұрын

@@demo3456 Take your own advice.

@sajp8859

3 жыл бұрын

Roger that-it’s a very good feeling to know men and women of Fravor’s caliber are defending our country, and sometimes I don’t think we appreciate them enough. Bless them one and all.

@morpheus674

3 жыл бұрын

@@andyc8508 Bruh. People still fall for the "protecting our western way of life". LOL

Dave was a great pilot. I flew many missions with him.

@jenny2814.

9 ай бұрын

So do you believe in the tic-tac ufo if you are a pilot yourself

@Slaxsvo

9 ай бұрын

cap

@brettpilkington9539

8 ай бұрын

I was the alien

@Pamela-wg4lx

8 ай бұрын

You guys are some brave and after seeing this video I truly appreciate that and the amount of intelligence you guys have !! Mind blowing to me!!! Thank you so much for your service to us all !!

@KaySloan

8 ай бұрын

So interesting to listen to him, must'vve been great to fly with him. I love the enthusiasm in the way he talks.

As a navy veteran with an aviation specific rate (job), It's even easier to be completely enthralled by this story because I know this guy is for real. His use of naval aviation specific terms and the way those terms roll off the tongue, skepticism is unwarranted with the things he says. This stuff is extremely interesting.

@amesailor

3 жыл бұрын

@@archiehickox6518 on a carrier?

@amesailor

3 жыл бұрын

@@archiehickox6518 yup. I've lived it. I recognize a few other guys on there too. Commander Bartlett went on to be the commanding officer of the Navy/marine Corps flight demonstration squadron (blue angels).

@bugrilyus

2 жыл бұрын

@@archiehickox6518 deleted :(

@thomasfarr9222

2 жыл бұрын

@@bugrilyus it's part of the PBS documentary "Carrier"

@rickjason215

2 жыл бұрын

There’s a PBS documentary, “Carrier”. I’m watching it and there’s Commander Fravor. He’s 100% for real.

It’s refreshing to see such a quality human being. Came here for the UFO story, stayed for David.

@BRINKOFWAR2024

3 жыл бұрын

I stayed for Dave too. The entire interview was fantastic. The ending was heartfelt. I wish more people could/would take the time to really listen from start to finish. This was NOT a waste of time. Thanks Dave/Lex ... NGC SuperHornet Engr-retired

This was an incredible conversation. Fraver just instantly comes across as such a rock solid reliable person, which is a very common trait in every one of the few former military pilots I've met. Down to earn by the numbers process driven and extremely confident and intelligent but still warm, welcoming and great sense of humor. This is exactly the witness the UFO topic needed.

@EricThompsonClimber

Жыл бұрын

Sean stated, quite matter-of-factly, that Lt. Cmdr. Fravor didn’t think the TicTac incident was actual. His exact words were that he thought it was “fake.” I sat for a moment in my car with a gobsmacked look on my face which, luckily for my tint, no one in traffic could see. Finally, I typed up a clarification text and asked: “What do you mean by he knew this was fake?” Sean replied: “He thought it was fake or our[s] and he was sure. Didn’t believe in anything past a black program and acted like he knew better.”

@adog3129

Жыл бұрын

@@EricThompsonClimber what's this from? who tf is sean? and he's saying he thought it was a real craft just owned by the US government, or what?

@EricThompsonClimber

Жыл бұрын

@@adog3129 sean is sean cahill a former navy security guy on navy ships in the time frame of the Nimitz encounter and many floats after. Sean now frequents the youtube talk sceen on uaps. I don't know what Fravor actually thinks after seans statements. I don't really like sean but i don't doubt his word.

@adog3129

Жыл бұрын

@@EricThompsonClimber ok unrelated why do they need a security guy on a military ship. arent they all the ultimate security guys

@EricThompsonClimber

Жыл бұрын

@@adog3129 it's a job in the navy like military police in the Army. At his top enlisted rank his job duties include crimes among the crew and security of the ship in port and at sea. At sea security could be drones, or small vessels approaching the ship or in these cases uaps.

The best podcast I have ever watched. Thank you Lex and David for putting the time to this for us.

I came for tic tac, I left with more knowledge about being a fighter pilot and David’s career and I couldn’t be happier.

@odinata

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, correct. This isn't really about UFO's. Its about this pilot, and his ego.

@JDawOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

@@odinata so because he’s articulate, well educated, was good at his job and is a good story teller, he has a big ego? He actually seems fairly humble to me. Not sure where you’re coming from.

@odinata

2 жыл бұрын

@@archiehickox6518 What a crybaby fanboy.

@odinata

2 жыл бұрын

@@JDawOfficial Because it seems to be about himself, and not the evidence for UFO's

@odinata

2 жыл бұрын

@@archiehickox6518 He's a great pilot. Doesn't mean he is incapable of making a mistake. Appeal to Authority will not make aliens real.

Fridman and Fravor? I have never clicked anything faster in my life.

@GiulianoGiacaglia

3 жыл бұрын

The UFOs are just an electromagnetic phenomena - see this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter

@JESSEverything

3 жыл бұрын

@@GiulianoGiacaglia After watching this podcast I think that's an odd conclusion.

@steveflorida8699

3 жыл бұрын

"it did something [movements] we never seen" on earth.

@elonmusk8245

3 жыл бұрын

watch the UNACKNOWLEDGED movie! proof:pentagon released UFO videos, and usa army created SPACE FORCE

@SearchBucket2

3 жыл бұрын

@@steveflorida8699 They always do. These "aliens" are always capable of sustaining massive "g" manoeuvres which would shatter diamond. They have limitless resources too and having travelled many light years they decide to faff around in the upper atmosphere tormenting jets. lol

Favorite interview of yours. Long-winded and scatter-brained and all. It’s the human elements that make his story so compelling. And you brought them out of him the best. Obrigado

Legit one of the best podcasts ever. This the 5th time I've watched it. Always a good one to come back to

If you're willing to do a 4-hour podcast, you deserve my subscription

@juanstennett6874

3 жыл бұрын

This is a perfect interview for everybody who wants to hear Fravor's tic tac story, but cant stand Jeremy Corbell

@Warrior93x

3 жыл бұрын

After this I subscribed

@regrox

3 жыл бұрын

@Frank Blackcrow Soooo you're disliking it because you have to do a bit of work to find what you need? Do you expect everything to be packaged up exactly as you want it? I don't get this mentality

@regrox

3 жыл бұрын

@Frank Blackcrow fair enough. I see where you're coming from. The briefer format is offered on Fravor's other interviews so at least this one is different than the rest 👍

@ShaferHart

3 жыл бұрын

@@juanstennett6874 Corbell is living rent free on yo head loser

My grandpa helped build the SR71 and the x-1, I remember how proud he was. He would talk to me about it for hours. I wish I would have been old enough to be able to appreciate it like I do now, while he was still alive. 😏. I really miss him.

@bigalkool2897

3 жыл бұрын

god bless his soul

@TheBsavage

3 жыл бұрын

Neat. My uncle flew in the SR-71. I have a picture of him in his space-suit with the little air-conditioner. My father helped build the Stealth Fighter. Of course I didn't know this at the time, I only found out later. I too have been involved in classified projects, but I'd prefer not to say which ones.

@Atxurra

3 жыл бұрын

His passions live in you now, he's proud of that.

@thomaslewis7883

3 жыл бұрын

Did he explain to you how many UFO/UAP reports were generated by the YF -12A and SR-71 varients.? They would drop the nose and hit the throttle and light up radar screens with "wow what was that,it made a right-hand turn at 2750 mph" 2500 plus mph at 100,000 feet. Imagine being able to outrun the deadly SAM 6 missiles in the 60s,70s. The SR -71 could see the missiles coming up and just fly away.

@kimberlyb2738

3 жыл бұрын

thats awesome! he is with you!!! ask him for signs :)

I could listen to David all day, every day. What an absolutely captivating interview. So interesting and enthralling. Educational and thought-expanding. Thank you so much for this.

One of the best episodes of any podcast, in my opinion. I especially enjoyed the first part where they just focused on Cmdr Fravor's air force career instead of just soending 4 hours talking about his UFO experience.

As a life long fan of military aviation I really appreciate the large segment on his experience as a highly accomplished pilot, as interesting as the tic-tac is too.

@dariofromthefuture3075

3 жыл бұрын

So much is known about these anti grav systems if you are willing to lower yourself and listen to “”unorthodox”” sources. I highly recommend Dr Greers ‘Crossing Point of Light’ on KZread. Or the documentary Unacknowledged on Apple/Amazon.

@bodystomp5302

3 жыл бұрын

Greer is definitely controversial.

@dariofromthefuture3075

3 жыл бұрын

@@bodystomp5302 when it comes to weird subjects like this--- which clearly have at least some reality to them-- he's the best i've found.

@bodystomp5302

3 жыл бұрын

@@dariofromthefuture3075 The problem with Greer is he charges money for supposed contact with ET. It smells like BS.

@dariofromthefuture3075

3 жыл бұрын

@@bodystomp5302 He is CONSTANTLY saying anyone can make contact at any time. And has long detailed lectures on the science of consciousness. Just like anyone else- if you want to work him in person he has paid events.

Let's take a moment to appreciate the fact that he's a Top Gun. Crazy accomplishment.

@D3cker1

2 жыл бұрын

Wow how about we find out is he is telling the truth? regardless where he worked... But my guess is that you are a "drone"

@larjkok1184

2 жыл бұрын

Take as long as you like. Don’t worry about the rest of us.

@reubanrajan2679

2 жыл бұрын

@@D3cker1 jealousy doesn't have a medicine

@jsnel9185

2 жыл бұрын

@@D3cker1 nice, you manage to disparage two people with one comment. Maybe instead of "stealthought" you should be "nothought". See? I can do it too and my comment is as useless as yours. Well, maybe not. Trolling trolls is worthwhile endeavor. How about I put what I said into a simple language someone as "enlightened" as you can understand: DERP!

@CTODGhost

2 жыл бұрын

@Armpitjam 4 that’s false. There’s video evidence and multiple other people who were with Fravor when this happened. The video pulls up on Joe Rogan’s podcast.

If you haven't watched any of his fighter pilot stuff, he has videos on KZread. He was in a documentary called "Landing on a pitched deck" Life on aircraft carrier

This remains to exist as the greatest single podcast ever published.

I like the direction this podcast is going! Kudos to Lex for being open minded.

@SearchBucket2

3 жыл бұрын

I don't. It's making me question Lex. The world is filling with attention seekers who dine out on promoting mystery and sensation. There's always and audience for that stuff. Monetisation in the modern internet world erodes away at rigour. Believing in these things is now becoming a religion.

@SearchBucket2

3 жыл бұрын

@@sibbyeskie The internet creates its own "truths"; if something is popular it soon becomes "fact". There's no research to be done here. There's a massive leap from seeing something you can't explain to fleshing it out with fanciful interpretations based on nothing more than empty conjecture. You will however get to do the media circus. And of course, the best story tellers will have many days dining out on their tales.

@raidenx7207

3 жыл бұрын

@@SearchBucket2 your over thinking it, chill out.

@SearchBucket2

3 жыл бұрын

@Dave N Ah, thanks Dave👍 I really do need to gouge out my brain and engage more in a vacuous and shallow way like so many do here. What was I thinking? Why was I thinking?

@John-dl5pw

3 жыл бұрын

@@SearchBucket2 Dude I get where you were going will all this but damn have some emotional intelligence.

David Fravor was also filmed in the 2003 PBS document on the US Navy aircraft carrier. The title of the documentary series is called Carrier. In the documentary, he is shown to be a very capable pilot. In one episode titled "Pitching Decks," he pretty much out flies the entire squadron, who are having a hard time landing their fighter planes in very rough seas near Australia.

@MMaRsu

2 жыл бұрын

You can find the video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zpt7r6txlJbcfNY.html

@mattsapero1896

2 жыл бұрын

Saw the preview clip last night. Gonna watch it all when I can...

@damienradford7143

2 жыл бұрын

Wait, he was featured in that?! I thought he looked familiar. Will have to rewatch it.

@kamaukambon7772

2 жыл бұрын

THANKS........ GONNA WATCH THIS DEFINITELY !!!!

@wackyroo

2 жыл бұрын

Interestingly "Carrier" was filmed from May 7, 2005 to November 8, 2005, less than a year after the November 14, 2004 UFO encounter... He had already seen the flying tictac at that point 0.o

This has to be hands down, the best, most interesting interview with Fravor out there. Like Lex said, He really is the most credible witness to whatever these things are. Its awesome to finally have this topic out in the open, and have the ability to hear a witness, that you know without a doubt, is telling the truth about their experience.

@EricThompsonClimber

Жыл бұрын

Sean stated, quite matter-of-factly, that Lt. Cmdr. Fravor didn’t think the TicTac incident was actual. His exact words were that he thought it was “fake.” I sat for a moment in my car with a gobsmacked look on my face which, luckily for my tint, no one in traffic could see. Finally, I typed up a clarification text and asked: “What do you mean by he knew this was fake?” Sean replied: “He thought it was fake or our[s] and he was sure. Didn’t believe in anything past a black program and acted like he knew better.”

@tarancehill651

Жыл бұрын

@@EricThompsonClimber when your comment doesn't get any engagement you just repeat it over and over? (Number 4, all of them 0 likes lol)

I've watched this convo 3 times. What a great episode. Thank you both.

I have attempted to meditate many times in my life and prior to this CD the only success I've experienced is with live guided meditation. kzread.infoUgkxzpa8CIfZcihW4Z0F_ja0QF3W9KIatrsq This is the first CD I've used that cuts through my unmedicated ADHD and enables me to truly relax and experience a quiet and energizing interval. The instructors voice is very soothing and pleasant to listen to. I am easily able to sit successfully through the entire CD, and for quite some time after. I cannot adequately express how tremendously helpful this CD has been on my spiritual journey!! Two thumbs up and 10 stars!

you can tell this is a good guy, genuine and no bullshit

@lovelight9261

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. "The right stuff" shines in his eyes and countenance.

@MalcolmJones-bossjones

3 жыл бұрын

agreed, I really really enjoyed this. Everything he said felt believable.

@lovelight9261

3 жыл бұрын

@@vanillaglue Really!? What "times?" Be specific. Do you have training in such things? Enlighten us.

@reubanrajan2679

3 жыл бұрын

@@vanillaglue I think you are the random guy who just wants to think you are more intelligent than others by acting like a Critique without having anything substantial to back you up.

@Ali-yh9qi

3 жыл бұрын

These pilots are so frigging logical and smart. A credit to our military.

I'm a Navy vet, and on deployment in the Persian/Arabian gulf we had a week long situation where a drone kept appearing above the USS Eisenhower (CVN-69), my boat....we had no idea how or why this drone sized object kept appearing above us. No scramble of F18-S / Rhinos had a chance of catching whatever the FUCK it was. I was force protection, so we got top clearance briefed. We were trained to identify any possible air and surface contacts. To this day, we have no clue. Maybe CO did, but wow. The object dropped elevation from high above to almost flight deck. Many many questions -- we were toyed with. You want to believe? Please believe there is some tech here in earth's atmosphere that has demonstrated forms of transcendent technology

@rarestform5699

3 жыл бұрын

Around 40:00 he mentions the surprising nature of automated controls. I witnessed and filmed the first A.I. controlled F-18 landing on a carrier.

@xntumrfo9ivrnwf

3 жыл бұрын

You sound like you have a very interesting story to tell! Maybe expand on your experiences in a YT video/series, or written work?

@erkeda12

3 жыл бұрын

I am amused when ufos are discussed when they are always described as "not of this world". Why do people assume these things are not from earth? We know little about our oceans. We know less about Antarctica.

@mjjumps

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing man. Cool story💪💪

@VendPrekmurec

3 жыл бұрын

You have to read about the Pan Adria incident. Tito ordered UFOs to be shot down because they (UFOs) were dangerously approaching civil planes... as a result one of the fighter pilots has died while chasing an UFO... While pilots could see UFOs with a naked eye, radar operators could not see anything, but while radar operators could have see them (UFOs), pilots did not see them with an naked eye. As soon fighter pilots approached them, they've started to move away(automatically UFOs were monitoring their movement and speed) like they wanted to tell them "keep a distance"... They were literally studying our airplanes, tech and our "reflexes"... These were not only "small" (150 m radius) objects, but also mother ships, which were seen from the Croatian coast line (like from Dubrovnik once) to the open Mediterranean sea, like 40.,, km away..., they were huge like soccer stadiums... Also, these events took at the same time while WOW signal was also reported... pilots concluded however that "as soon they started to ignore these objects, objects started to ignore them too". These "UFOs" are generally automatic "machines"...if we can even call them "machines". They are rather ghosts or entities that act like small particles from the quantum physics on the macro level.

I just want to say I have been watching you for a short time and I love your content! you are a very inspiring person and very intelligent! Thank you for putting into words the questions I have wanted to ask for so long

This is an excellent interview for many reasons, but primarily because you made it enjoyable and engaging for the guest, asking him questions relevant to his career, personal preferences with aviation and what he enjoys.

Is David just the nicest, most down to earth, credible guy ever?! He seems like at great person, loved this interview!

@kelleychilton2524

Жыл бұрын

He is the epidemy of credibility. If you can't believe this guy than you can't believe anyone.

@SaltNBattery

Жыл бұрын

Patient too.. Lex interrupts him more than anyone else I've ever seen him interview.

@toneed9147

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same guy. He seems like just a really awesome person.

Dave Fravor is freaking brilliant! A person like this is who I want protecting our country. This man is a true fighter pilot.

@jorgemora9538

2 жыл бұрын

@@redneckshaman3099 hi 12 year old. Go watch cartoons.

Glad the Phoenix Lights incident was mentioned. Impossible for 10,000+ people to mistake a mile wide craft that flew over the entire state of Arizona for flares.

@talex7473

Жыл бұрын

I saw the Phoenix lights as a kid. I have not needed any further convincing since that evening that the answer to the Fermi paradox is actually that they’re already here!

@edriley2703

Жыл бұрын

Phoenix Lights is probably the most incredible and believable uap incident in our history.

@LuciusVKayne

Жыл бұрын

I remember it being on the news when I was a kid. My mom and aunt were BIG into the paranormal. I was at my aunt's house for at the time and she was kinda freaking out. That was day one of my own obsession with aliens, space, etc.

@lance5041

Жыл бұрын

@@talex7473 as someone who actually experienced those lights, do you have a theory on why there isn't or wasn't more contact or sightings? Or do you think maybe there was and it's not shared? And, what is your personal theory on what you saw? (Interstellar? Interdimensional? Time distortion?) Oh, and any other sightings?

@talex7473

Жыл бұрын

@@lance5041 great question and I wish I had the answers. I was 9 years old and remember it vividly. Was having a sleep over at my friend’s house, but he had a band concert that night so I had to go to that. Returning home from the concert, so we could endlessly drink soda and play Goldeneye N64 until the sun came up, cars began stopping on the side of the road with people getting out and pointing up at this triangle of lights. As it passed overhead, it appeared to have a solid, physical structure connecting the lights in the triangle, obviously some sort of craft. It made no noise, it silently went over us. It appear to be at least a quarter mile wide. Disappeared over the mountains. The flares explanation is BS; what flares are all connected by structural members? What flares move on the x-axis over an entire city, and over the mountain range, for dozens and dozens of miles? Witnessed by prominent members of society. My dad was working patrol that night with PHXPD and the radio in the patrol car lit up with cops saying “are you guys seeing this shit!?” Obviously I have no clue, but my gut feeling is that it was an interstellar space craft controlled by intelligent beings. But I have no solid proof of that being the case. It seems more likely than other explanations, however.

David Fravor is a great guest. Super knowledgeable about many topics.

This is probably one of the most sober and well-rounded interviews and conversations about UFOs I have ever seen. Excellent job.

@waynewade5945

2 жыл бұрын

Best interview i ever heard

@halahmilksheikh

2 жыл бұрын

The interviewer is uhhhhh not that great. Fravor was excellent though.

@bennyl7224

2 жыл бұрын

@@halahmilksheikh it’s an interesting take, but is Fravor a great interview everywhere? He’s fascinating to listen to, but Lex took it to another level.

@iliveinthekingdomofpain7692

2 жыл бұрын

This illustrates exactly why we always return to Lex. He is in top-of-the-top level of podcast interviewers. I base this statement, on the fact hat I am a retired Big 4 consulting senior executive and professionally trained and retrained interviewer. I can see bullshit and / or the truth by body language alone, before the interview-subject even opens their mouth. This is all very real.

@davidlineberry622

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/aaR8uq-LnJOzhZs.html

David Fravor is the most interesting guest that has ever appeared on the show.

@cheponis

2 жыл бұрын

Have you only watched this episode?

@olo_smooth_olo5606

2 жыл бұрын

@@cheponis he has charisma

@cheponis

2 жыл бұрын

@@olo_smooth_olo5606 Very true! Yes, he does. And I'm glad it's not a 'total nut job' --- just the facts kinda guy.

@bafflezbiz

2 жыл бұрын

Certainly more interesting and intelligent than Lex. Don't think I'll make it through another one of these.

@Solaar_Punk

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure charisma is the right word, he seems a bit like a typical guy that would see a UFO. Bit odd looking and nerdy, hint of the Whitley Strieber about him. I don't doubt his experience just interesting he's a bit of a nerdy type.

hey! thanks for making this podcast. you are undeniably the best interviewer the world has rn.

it's great that you interviewed him about his actual career, not just that one experience. you can see how he smiles and really opens up when he's talking about flying.

He is the best witness that we could even imagine of having

@KG-vr3te

2 жыл бұрын

Dra...its an incredible testimony. All the best my star watcher. 🌟 I agree

@bobbymiller1509

2 жыл бұрын

@@KG-vr3te I agree, if I had been there to see this, I would ? what I saw with my own eyes. But these guys, think about it, every time you think of someone like fravor you think of Top Gun but whenever you see interviews with the real guys it's like the solemn feeling of listening to a doctor in his office. Some thing that says this guy knows what he's talking about. love all you.........bobby

@Moriadin

2 жыл бұрын

wasn't just him either. him and 3 other pilots.

@alexanderdefalcojr.6840

2 жыл бұрын

he went on the record and the female pilot that witnessed all of this went on the show blurred out withholding her information on her identity

@repentoryouwilllikewiseper8741

2 жыл бұрын

Repent to Jesus Christ “However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.” ‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭4:16‬ ‭NIV‬‬ T

Fravor is the F'ng man. I first learned of him after watching a PBS series called "Carrier" back in the early 2000's. He was heavily featured on it. Top notch, probably the best our NAVY can offer. I was astonished to hear of this tic-tac encounter years later and to find out Dave was involved. When guys like this speak, I listen. Thanks for this interview! Fantastic.

@hugerush7073

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! 'Carrier' was a very well done miniseries - should be mandatory viewing for anyone considering enlisting in the Navy. Cmdr Fravor was certainly a great indicator of the caliber of our military pilots. Interesting for sure was the fact that the Tic Tac incident (which occurred during the workups for the cruise documented in 'Carrier'), or anything even remotely related to UFOs (sorry, UAPs), never came up! Oh - and too the bored idiot above - its "Mork calling ORSON!" - dumbass...

@poolhall9632

2 жыл бұрын

This guy looks like every one of my navy brat friend’s dads

@formernavyspook

2 жыл бұрын

The man chosen by the tic-tac operators to introduce themselves to mankind.

@ohroonoko

2 жыл бұрын

Wait a minute. So this Navy pilot just so happened to be featured in a documentary series? Was he featured in that before or after his UFO sightings? I find it sus, the desire for fame..

@markopolo958

2 жыл бұрын

@@ohroonoko Yeah...I mean, if any person is ever on TV, EVER, that means they have a desire for fame and should, therefore, never be trusted. Sound logic, sir.

Interesting to note that David contacted Bob lazar because Bob lazar described the craft flying very similar to how David seen them flying and maneuvering. So he wanted to talk to him about it and compare their experience

Wonderful honest funny and emotionally honest conversation. Well done all!

Best Fravor interview ever! You went over 3 hours and I could've listened for another 3. Just terrific 🙌 👏👏

@monsterk7603

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. The quickest 4 hours I've spent in many years.

Man that story of fravor getting the tapes back is hilarious “don’t ever fuck with me again” 😂

@barretcoe4841

2 жыл бұрын

Literally came into the comments to see if anyone else says it

@Mr_Weast_FM

2 жыл бұрын

you do know that his call sign in Navy is "Sex" ... They call him David "Sex" Fravor in the Navy ..... So, nobody fucks with him ..only he is the one who fucks ....

@vallejopnw

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mr_Weast_FM 😂

watching this for the third time! can't get enough. I hope we get some even stronger sightings soon.

Thank you to both of you for sharing this conversation with us. We need more people like Lex and David in the world.

What I love about Lex is the fact he asks an interesting question and then let's the guest speak before asking the next interesting question.

@klangstrum

Жыл бұрын

Hilarious but sadly true! One of my pet peeves about most interviews

@salvitiello2738

Жыл бұрын

Also Joe Rogan.. Actually I find Joe more interesting

@caspercasper5413

Жыл бұрын

@@salvitiello2738 joes too much of an alien head, I’m glad alex talked more about David’s career cause we get more insight to his character and backstory which makes this whole story more relatable cause he’s just a normal American pilot who witnessed this

@salvitiello2738

Жыл бұрын

@@caspercasper5413 This video is very interesting, it was made from a dear Italian friend of mine . Let me know what do you think about it kzread.info/dash/bejne/lXp1mNaLpJnNf5c.html

@fredmost

10 ай бұрын

Definitely an alien head

Lex, this was probably THE BEST podcast I’ve ever listened to and I’ve listen to hundreds! You are a very complex and compassionate man. In your words a “beautiful” mind and I love what you do.

Lex you are a genuine gentlemen. A pleasure to witness a brilliant scholar with zero ego!

Tic Tac story aside, this interview is a wonderful, wonderful insight about what it is to be a jet fighter pilot. Bravo

This is a perfect interview for everybody who wants to hear Fravor's tic tac story, but cant stand Jeremy Corbell

@billybatson8657

3 жыл бұрын

You hooked me, I'm listening to it now!

@inthefade

3 жыл бұрын

@Redresseny Corbell is the worst. One of those conversationalists who has trouble listening and understanding what the conversation is about. Maybe he is just nervous or something, but he always seems to go off track on weird unrelated or semi-related tangents, or leave big gaping holes in the story he is telling that make it incomprehensible.

@llsspp

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Corbell gives off a tinfoil hat vibe to me, even though he obviously spends a lot of time educating himself on various phenomenon/events. Just has that “seriously bro look into it” look in his eyes, which isn’t great when you consider the nature of what you’re talking about

@joebarco5674

3 жыл бұрын

😂

@thebendu33

3 жыл бұрын

@@thishandleistacken Tom Delonge is not the sharpest pen.

Thank you for having the absolute best audio. Clear, undistorted, as loud as possible without distorting, and the voices lifted up the very intelligible levels probably the best audio in a head-to-head interview anywhere on the internet.

@AquanautSt1

3 жыл бұрын

Lex said he uses "Izotope Nectar" for his vocals . Great choice !

Awesome to see that David started his career as a Marine. Almost every successful, humble, smart man I have met in my life had their start in the USMC.

This is my favorite interview by far. I thought the UAP info would be the most interesting but I was wrong! Thank you Mr. Fravor for your time and service, and thank you Mr. Fridman for your questions and general curiosity for life.

Lex, you often say negative things about yourself such as “this is a dumb question..” We all find you fascinating and a great podcast host, don’t put yourself down ❤️

@EzziiG

3 жыл бұрын

Don't be gay

@juneack5848

3 жыл бұрын

Cause it puts all of us down.

@davida3922

3 жыл бұрын

Sneintzville thanks for the tip

@mindfulchimp9946

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephjohn7209 I don't think you could have got things more wrong. Lex did that so he could here the answer straight from the source. It is a possible explanation so Lex wanted to dispel it. Lex knew it was silly but the answer on record straight from the source has value.

@mjlippai8608

3 жыл бұрын

Might be uninformed in a particular field sometimes but he's educated in AI and I doubt anyone would call him dumb. Almost seems like false modesty sometimes or maybe it's just because it annoys me.

Wow, just hearing the conversation is amazing - The level of knowledge is captivating to the point I genuinely forgot the core subject of the interview. 💯👌👍

Thanks Lex for all your dedication and work ethics it does not go unnoticed. Keep paying it forward

This might be the coolest Robbin Williams role ever

@mortechrome

3 жыл бұрын

I was just waiting to see if anyone else noticed...

@thinmuir7334

3 жыл бұрын

t5his should have more likes lol, i spat my coffee reading this :)

@heathermcmoonbeam3439

3 жыл бұрын

Close, but I see more of a Steve Martin resemblance myself.

@humanspoder777

3 жыл бұрын

God dammit hahahahaha

@MegaFlemo

3 жыл бұрын

Haha

I remember Fighter Squadron 41 from working on the flight deck of the Franklin D. Roosevelt on 1972. Anyone who can land a warplane on a carrier is a special individual, in my opinion.

So so so interesting, thank you so much for uploading such quality podcasts! Kindest regards

What an amazing conversation. Thank you for sharing Lex.

This is a very observant and direct guy, clearly the kind of mind you need to have to do that job.

@rickjason215

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t believe 4 Naval Flyers hallucinated this UFO. One okay, 2 not likely and 4 pretty much impossible.

damn, man - even rogan's discussion with the guy only lasted three hours nice work

@tobiaspascher9884

3 жыл бұрын

"only" ^^

@roymakescomics

3 жыл бұрын

and 50% of it was Joe repeating himself and Jeremy butting in..

@1JRVenom

3 жыл бұрын

Joe cuts off most interviews at 3 hours unless hes stoned as fuck.

@thereheis2093

3 жыл бұрын

First hour was his former work. 😉

I totally like Fravors attitude towards debunking. This man just know, that they saw something extraordinary!

It is a long interview, but I enjoyed every second of it. Dave is an extraordinary man. My grandfather was also Sicilian.

Really interesting guy. This has to be the most believable story about a ufo encounter I have ever heard.

@ajwysopal

3 жыл бұрын

Check him out on Joe Rogan podcast as well

@Hexnilium

2 жыл бұрын

@@ajwysopal I'm going to check that out next. Thanks for the recommendation.

@DeuceGenius

2 жыл бұрын

No way I got family in wapakanetta I'm not far. I didn't know he was from ohio

@0ptimal

2 жыл бұрын

Well may not be as credible of witnesses, but there are some very interesting testimonials on KZread, average people, recorded in the 90's. I believe the channel is called US National Archives, one video is an interview with a guy named Glen Anderson. His telling of the story, despite the incredible contents, is quite convincing, hard to think he's lying. Same for the other interviews. These videos are some of the best ufo sighting interviews I've ever seen, and fairly overlooked, you'd think they'd have more views. (It's Gerald Anderson, not Glen. Others are Glenn Davis, and Alice knight)

@darinhitchings7104

2 жыл бұрын

I have a few. They're 3rd hand. I got them from my Dad after he drove from Denver to New Mexico to personally investigate some events around Reserve New Mexico in about 1980. But he talked to a number of unrelated / disconnected parties down there who had similar stories...

Lex: Dumb question, forgive me. Fravor: That's actually a very good question.

@iamnotpaulavery

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, when in fact, it really *was* a dumb question!

@lyndayates7533

3 жыл бұрын

My thought also. Intelligent and still humble.

This is a really good interview. Good job guys. Lex has a lot of really good questions and push the subject to the max. You have a wonderful soul David. Congrats to both of you.

Thanks for clearing everything up on the subject.

I absolutely love how they talk about the intricacies of being a navy pilot for over an hour before they even mention the ufo. Fascinating conversation.

Fravor was a neighbor of mine back when I lived in NH. Sweetest man you'll ever meet.

This is one of the coolest interviews I've ever heard. Thank you.

Awesome Episode ! Cmdr Fravor is a legend. Thanks for this episode Lex !

Crazy to think that now Joe Rogan hosts his podcast from inside the Tic-Tac!

@mariamartins367

3 жыл бұрын

Non american here. What do you call the tic tac? What does it refer to ? The candy ? Because of the shape ?

@davidbarry9690

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariamartins367 yes

@_Schwartz

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariamartins367 Ufo that looks like a tic tac.

@SDCISHERE

3 жыл бұрын

🤯😳🤯😳

@fibsniper786

3 жыл бұрын

Timo Iivonen i didn’t read your message, it is too long and full of caps. It honestly looks like the deranged babbling of a mad man, and it makes me believe in god even less now, thank you

Favor's can-do attitude is exactly what the world needs right now. Thank you for 4 hours of thoughtful enlightening conversations...

Probably one of my favorite interviews so far.

Lex is truly one of the greatest interviewers of our time. In my opinion.

Lex, I watched this whole interview over two nights and being retired I watched one until dawn and this last part until 4:30am. Of course I subscribed. You are an admirable, intelligent guy, how could I not? Cheers from Eastern Canada.

@davidlineberry622

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/aaR8uq-LnJOzhZs.html

@jasiebelderart

2 жыл бұрын

2 nights? It took me just 3 hours and 49 minutes

@nathanking9611

2 жыл бұрын

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@nathanking9611

2 жыл бұрын

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@nathanking9611

2 жыл бұрын

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"Sometimes you gotta get your kicks while you're alive" wise words to live by...

Listening for the second time , love this interview and the conversation

What an intense conversation, really enjoyed this one.

This is one finely-tuned, eloquent, sharp human being.

@crd88918

3 жыл бұрын

All of the things he needed to be an outstanding fighter pilot... his mind seems to be perfectly calibrated and informed by his former instrument - wonderful podcast

@brandiguarino1778

3 жыл бұрын

I’m in love!

@craig-alicious

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jay-407 Kind of makes you wonder if they really are crazy after all though.

@futhark3899

3 жыл бұрын

Shame he was fooled by a military hologram

@springball

3 жыл бұрын

Still human and thus error prone...

I didn't think I would watch the full 4 hours but I was completely hooked all the way through. Thoroughly enjoyed that conversation.

Came for the tic-tac stuff, but the rest of the conversation was also fantastic. I learned so much!

Only recently discovered Lex. I've played this whole podcast over & over. Some parts of it I can't follow, but the authenticity is obvious. Enthralling.