Can you imagine being one of those two guys on Requiem? How wild is it that they've influenced one of the greatest climbers of our time without even knowing 🤯

Going from the pewdipie collab to this video is like seeing magnus with his hyperactive little cousin, then his dad.

The two climbers that inspire me the most! I would love you guys collaborate again

Dave is such a wonderful guy*🙏

I love Magnus' wry shake of the head when Dave names Echo Wall and not Rhapsody, and describes Rhapsody as safe and Echo Wall as serious. "I'm never going to try that route".... having already had at least the risk taking side of his ass kicked by the sheer insanity of Rhapsody. No disparaging Magnus, though - I side with him. These two climbs are bonkers, as we say in Scotland.

funny Dave mentioned that it was the awkwardness that spoke to him. In a way I think the same for me, when I saw the original stuff, I felt like we could just hang out and be friends, Magnus felt human and approachable. I think that is also what I liked about Dave's channel. I am sick of the celebrities who think too highly of themselves, I like the real people. That's why I like watching you guys work routes, because you don't always flash them, and seeing the struggle is relatable. That and the dieting experiments. There are so many lies out there, and I have decided only by trying something myself will I know how it will work for me. Dave's stuff was helpful because he wasn't out to make a buck off of it, he was really searching for what worked and what didn't.

Love this combination.Dave is such a character and has great insights to the climbing world.

Liked the quick fire question concept: it’s the subject in focus an that makes it very interesting.

I thought Dave's advice to younger trad climbers about not getting blasé about falling on crappy gear was thought-provoking and well said, coming from somebody with his resume. Understanding and mitigating risk are critical skills, and it's easy to mistake recklessness for boldness.

Two best climbing content creators on YT pairing up. You love to see it.

Great interview

This is an incredible interview. More please

Amazing collaboration. Would love this to be somewhat regular.

great stuff guys!

Lovely piece, super interesting.

One of the most interesting Interviews ive seen in a long time!

This is an awesome video!

These are such good questions too. A joy.

Great chat with one of climbings great characters

Great interview. Greater climbers. ❤

Thanks Dave, thanks Magnus, helps a lot!

This needs to be a podcast with a clever name

love dave!

inspiration! 🤩

Authenticity in spades.

Two humble bad asses right there!

That was me & my buddy Balboni climbing on Requiem that day. Dave reach out I can tell my side of the story.

@Jimmy-fy2sb

Ай бұрын

You guys still running that shit?

I thought for sure Dave's sketchiest route was going to be the free solo 8b+ vid on his channel but apparently not. Guy is quietly a madman lol.

@kazo0ie

Ай бұрын

As Dave had said, the crux was closer to the ground where a fall wouldn't be the worst. As always, a calculated risk by Dave.

@climbermacleod

Ай бұрын

The 8b+ solo was one of my training sessions for Echo Wall. One does not want soloing to be sketchy.

Matt Wright is a beast💪

When will we get some Dave MacLeod guitar jams?

@climbermacleod

Ай бұрын

Don't hold yer breath!

oh I want to check out the course, and I am sure it is worth every penny, but it is too much for me right now. My wife tells me 48 years old isn't the time to start climbing hard, LOL. I think why, after 30 years I finally figured out that power isn't my style, LOL and maybe technique might help.

Grass fed red meat is a very powerful source of nutrients Makes your body feel stronger

question for dave (if he reads comments :)) have you - in the 10 experimental years - ever tested a period of tofu instead of the mentioned red meat as a protein source? if yes: how noticable/big was the difference?

@benjam_morgan

Ай бұрын

He goes into this in depth in his own channel. Been a while since I watched but I think he found he was struggling with other issues like depression and general fatigue and diet changes towards more carnivorous options helped him get through that

@terraflow__bryanburdo4547

Ай бұрын

I spent decades trying to substitute tofu and other plant based products, but find out the hard way that we are obligate carnivores. Red meat is the key to human strength and proper mental functioning.

@JaneEarth

Ай бұрын

@@benjam_morgan interesting. i wish that was a true objective. but I suspect we would have eliminated depression and fatigue in the world by now if it was a cure for them to eat meat. thank you for your input though, I haven't watched much of dave's channel.

@JaneEarth

Ай бұрын

@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 thank you. do you happen to know any numbers on that which have been found to support the meat thesis? I don't find clear studies to defend it and can't say I see the same results in my own experiments, at least yet (which I started because I didn't make much progress even by systematic training). that's why I am interested if I am on the right track and pick up on statements like Dave's

Connor Herson IMO is the best upcoming trad climber, he's repeated most of the hardest trad routes in America

@boogaloo4640

Ай бұрын

In which case he's already beyond the 'up & coming' stage

Trad is maybe less common because of the cost. I think Climbing in and of itself is almost as enjoyable, maybe even less stressful on sport routes, but the cost to get set up, is 1/10 of trad. The gear is so spendy, unless you have a rich dad, or something it's hard to justify the expense.

Magnus is living my dream 😂 fk sake you’ve been how many countries recently? Climbing and meeting new people, il get there eventually 😫😂

Red meat 🔥🔥

Is Alex Honnold free soloing El Capitan a E13?🤪

@freddie_connor9202

Ай бұрын

isn't free rider around E6 6b? and considering a lot of the harder trad routes include no fall zones anyway not sure if it would be bumped that high - as crazily impressive as it is

Has anyone ever climbed in a cave? Depending where you are could form some really crazy routes, potentially climbing upside down etc

@ppeppe

Ай бұрын

Common, yes

@yugimotobutjacked3231

Ай бұрын

@@ppeppe Don't see much of it on YT, see a lot of cave content don't get me wrong. Just I haven't seen much cross over between the caving world and climbing world. In regard to rated routes etcs

@ppeppe

Ай бұрын

We might be meaning different things, I hadn't pictured caving, just caves. Eg Silence 9c is in a cave ? But yes, you're right, I'm not aware of many hard grades routes in underground cave systems, though they are not places I'm familiar with mind !

@yugimotobutjacked3231

Ай бұрын

@@ppeppe Ahh I gotcha, I'm not nerdy on terms and what nots so we can just call it a cave. Looks like a sick climb. This mainly comes from a stoned thought I had while watching cave divers swim through the vertical spaghetti tunnels cave form. Bare dangerous I reckon, that's probably why people don't do it.

@masonandersen494

Ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/fWyesraOdauomaw.html

His answer to the E13 question shows why people think he’s a sandbagger. The two routes mooted at around E12 at the moment are both well enough protected 9a’s so logically E13 would be around a well protected 9a+/b. Dave’s answer: 9c…

@AncientMysteriesAndInnovations

Ай бұрын

Please explain that to me like I'm Kamala Harris

@HarrisonFretwell

Ай бұрын

In dave's defence, uk trad grades are just wider than sport grades. So an increase of 1 sport grade (all else being equal) doesn't mean an extra E grade. Although I still think he's a bit of a sandbagger :)

@BobBob-ye2my

Ай бұрын

I don't think it's as simple as that though. Hard Cheese is probably close to 9a, it's like a V10 boulder, into a V11 boulder, followed by another V10 boulder with literally zero protection and it's E10. Is James route really E12? I don't know the other route mooted to be E12. Dave has refused to grade Echo Wall but reading between the lines it's prob also E11 and pretty certain death so does E12 really exist? E11 to E13 is obviously 2 full E grades, 1 E grade (say E6 for example) could cover anything from f7a+ to f7c+ so there's big gaps even in 1 grade so what he's saying makes sense.

@thenayancat8802

Ай бұрын

@@BobBob-ye2my Dave said recently Echo Wall is probably E10, in his video "How I grade the hardest trad routes".

@tombodgeit6822

Ай бұрын

Yeah but if that's true it messes up the grade scale, he's making it an exponential which most other people have come to realise isn't good. As much Dave is one of my favourite climbers and KZreadrs, I don't think he's right about grading.

Why didn’t you show a picture of his favorite climb?

Magnus, I don't think it's a question of "vegans are going to be angry". Even if eating red meat would give me super powers I wouldn't eat it, my ethics are more important than climbing a grade whatever. And to be clear, of course I'm not imposing my ethics on no one. I'm sure Dave is a person with his own ethics and that's fine. And I consider my former self, who ate meat, an ethic person too, it's just that I hadn't let myself deep into certain "truths". But everyone has to find their own "truth" and their own search for their ethic self. It's just that the comment "vegans are going to be angry" sounds a little lame.

@WeirdMicky

Ай бұрын

Maybe not you, but a lot of vegans are easily triggered.

@alvaroe7678

Ай бұрын

@@WeirdMicky I know what you mean. In my experience, not only in veganism, a lot of people with strong ethics in whatever field (religion, relationships between sexes, abortion, politic figures, climbing grades ;-), etc etc) are easily triggered. On one hand, I consider that unpleasantly egocentric, on the other, as in my case with industrial animal suffering, I kind of understand. But I try not to judge anyone. Anyway. "Vegans are going to be angry" sounds simplistic to me.

@holyknightthatpwns

10 күн бұрын

​​@@alvaroe7678I think you're diving a bit too deep about a throw away comment Magnus made. Besides, he actually didn't say anything as simplistic and all-encompassing as "vegans will be angry" - he said "you might piss off some vegans." You're the one who simplified the idea away from having any nuance.

@alvaroe7678

10 күн бұрын

​@@holyknightthatpwnsyou are probably very right :-)

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Cool vid, cool peeps. Outside of pissing of vegans, tho I'll just put here that eating a lot of red meat is awful for the environment? One of the worst things you could do in terms of CO2 emissions...

@owen9535

Ай бұрын

I think you mean a different greenhouse gas..

@terraflow__bryanburdo4547

Ай бұрын

Meat is the only food that can be produced with carbon negative footprint. But the Greens will rail against it until the end of Days, which is their belief system, not the facts or science.

I think E13 has been probably climbed by Alex Honnold when he freed solo el Cap. However he probably doesn't care, no big deal.

@Psych0vertical

Ай бұрын

Freerider only gets e5/6

@Dave1507

Ай бұрын

@@Psych0vertical Since E grades are for trad climbing, with rope and gear, free solo can't really be measured in that scale, I think.

@tombodgeit6822

Ай бұрын

You're right, but just for interest if you put it into the E Grade converter (7c & extremely dangerous) in comes out as E10

@user-ih3jl9um6e

Ай бұрын

​@@tombodgeit6822 that makes no sense tho, Echo Wall is 8b+ and almost a free solo and Dave said that it's around E10 so 7c free solo should be E7/8

@PB-sk9jn

Ай бұрын

@@Dave1507 exactly. If you solo an E1, it's an E1.

beef is pure power. not every day but lets say every other day in any "fitness" scene

@zGJungle

Ай бұрын

Even if you are not into fitness, every one should eat beef a few times a week, not talking steaks, but just in pasta or burgers.

@theflaggeddragon9472

Ай бұрын

If only there weren't massive ethical and environmental problems with it that climbers should really keep in mind

@walendaaa

Ай бұрын

@@theflaggeddragon9472 flying with private jets is much worse than eating cows. we have own farm so i am ok anyway i guess

@theflaggeddragon9472

Ай бұрын

@@walendaaa Okay and a setting off a thermonuclear bomb is worse than both of those things... what is your point? Mine is that if you have the option, you should avoid eating meat (especially beef) because the result of billions of people subsisting on it is catastrophic for the environment and seriously ethically questionable when it comes to committing mass slaughter of animals when perfectly good alternatives exist. Also, "not flying on a private jet" is pretty much the default option for 99.9% of the population, so I'm glad to see that people are taking your advice on that one!

@WeirdMicky

Ай бұрын

Like Elon Musk said: Cows are not the problem.

It's astonishing how ignorant these guys are about nutrition, yet they confidently discuss it..

@owen9535

Ай бұрын

Dave is not ignorant on this at all. He has done the research and explains his views in depth, in public, including stating where he thinks he got it wrong or where the science is fuzzy.

@minearslan8511

Ай бұрын

Adding random articles to a video doesn't equate to research. I recommend listening to insights from actual professional climbers like Ondra and Megos, rather than relying on two former climbers who now make only KZread content for making some money.

@Hyphae

Ай бұрын

@@minearslan8511 Dave has a Masters degree in both Medicine and Science in Sport & Exercise AND Human Nutrition. He is more informed then almost anybody on the topic.

@etienneblanchard9272

Ай бұрын

@@minearslan8511 Why wouldn't they be confident if all they do is talking about their own experiences and habbits? Plus Dave MacLeod has a master of science in nutrition

@thunderball11111

Ай бұрын

@@minearslan8511There’s nothing wrong with saying meat makes you strong, it does. Any solid source of protein will make you strong if you’re also working out. Doesn’t mean it’s the only thing you can eat to get that kind of result.