Dark Sun- 10 Reasons 5th Edition Dungeons & Dragons Needs It

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Dark Sun- 10 Reasons 5th Edition Dungeons & Dragons Needs It
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1) Athas- Post Apocalyptic Fantasy Campaign Setting
2) Psionics in every part of the world (Characters, Monsters, Plants)
3) Sorcerer Kings and their Templar agents
4) Swords and Sandals game or setting
5) New Races- Half-Giant, Mul, Thri-Kreen, Aarakocra, and Pterran
6) No Gods- Instead elemental divine magic
7) Arcane Magic harms the world and is called defiling or defilers
8) Character Trees- Expect Character Death
9) Nomadic Elves, Cannibal Halflings, and Beardless Dwarves
10) Cleansing War
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  • @Nerdarchy
    @Nerdarchy7 жыл бұрын

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  • @EpicDwarfStench
    @EpicDwarfStench7 жыл бұрын

    I would totally run a 5E Darksun campaign.

  • @lordxtheth2634
    @lordxtheth26347 жыл бұрын

    Dungeons and Dragons doesn't need Darksun... EVERY RPG needs Darksun!

  • @Nerdarchy

    @Nerdarchy

    7 жыл бұрын

    Lord Xtheth Let it be so. Nerdarchist Dave

  • @GameNubQuin
    @GameNubQuin7 жыл бұрын

    I think 5e is just sorely in need of a "hardcore" setting, where the difficulty is more set like it tended to be in the old days. Dark Suns would be good for that. And no, the newer generally more heroic/less dangerous campaigns are not bad, I just tend not to prefer them.

  • @Nerdarchy

    @Nerdarchy

    7 жыл бұрын

    GameNub Quin The grittier rules in the dmg would be great for Dark Sun. Nerdarchist Dave

  • @mikegould6590
    @mikegould65907 жыл бұрын

    Dark Sun is one world I've always wanted to play in. I love challenging settings with a gritty edge.

  • @Nerdarchy

    @Nerdarchy

    7 жыл бұрын

    Mike Gould is this a Mike Gould doppelganger? The comment is so short. Nerdarchist Dave

  • @videogameplaybynerdarchy1706

    @videogameplaybynerdarchy1706

    7 жыл бұрын

    I am eagerly waiting for the chance to play

  • @mikegould6590

    @mikegould6590

    7 жыл бұрын

    Nope, this is the original Mike Gould who would rather drink beer and paint minis while watching a Nerdarchy video after work than write a long reply. ;)

  • @bearoakley5393
    @bearoakley53937 жыл бұрын

    Ive read the Prism Pentad at least a dozen times! Great Characters and an excellent introduction to the World of Dark Sun. Watch out for the Gaj!!!

  • @Icosiol
    @Icosiol6 жыл бұрын

    Athas was a closed plane of existence, but Dregoth re-opened its access with a Planar Gate he discovered in New Guistenal. That was told in the boxed set adventure called, "City by the Silt Sea".

  • @kasakuie
    @kasakuie7 жыл бұрын

    I loved Dark Sun. I played in a 2e Ad&d campaign as a Minotaur barbarian. The setting was myself and the others were a random group of gladiators fighting​ in an arena to attain our freedom. It was alot of fun.

  • @gregoryfloriolli9031
    @gregoryfloriolli90317 жыл бұрын

    Dark Sun is a fantastic setting. It's the most different from traditional fantasy of all of the campaign settings. It's also the only one that needs a bunch of new rules to be released for races, classes, magic, etc. before people could play in that setting.

  • @MySqueezingArm
    @MySqueezingArm2 жыл бұрын

    I know I keep commenting on your old videos, but if it helps you at all I'm happy to do it. I'm actually using a ton of Dark Sun stuff in a more lively world. The overall theme is that civilizations spent so much time fighting each other, that the wilderness is starting to take over again. Mulls come from dwarves and humans merging nations, defiling is present but may attract attention of wilderness factions. Etc. Etc.

  • @Nerdarchy

    @Nerdarchy

    2 жыл бұрын

    It does help. Plus we like to know the stuff we did earlier in Nerdarchy is still being interacted with and hopefully people are still finding it useful. -Nerdarchist Dave

  • @kurgon1976
    @kurgon19767 жыл бұрын

    Darksun was fantastic. I'd love to see this updated. Because of the lack of world settings, I'm getting into the Cypher system.

  • @Nerdarchy

    @Nerdarchy

    7 жыл бұрын

    kurgon1976 Cypher System is an excellent system. Nerdarchist Dave

  • @clintwestwood569
    @clintwestwood5696 жыл бұрын

    Dark Sun is my favorite.

  • @jafarthebarmecide3677
    @jafarthebarmecide36777 жыл бұрын

    The last time I played Dark Sun was 2nd edition and it was brilliant. I always thought that it would be perfect to mesh with a Dune role-playing game- the Zensunni cult establishes a colony on Athas like they did on Arrakis or maybe the Sardaukar turn up to claim the planet for the Landsraad. It would be interesting to pit the Bene-Gesserit and Ixian technology against psionics and the Sorcerer Kings.

  • @FriendlyArchpriest
    @FriendlyArchpriest7 жыл бұрын

    I will probably never play in Dark Sun but I want it back so that it will force WotC to release proper psionic rules, and I also want it for the desert character archetypes, the bony, horny and psionic monsters, the dragon kings stats and the defiling mechanics to make evil wizardly enemies who fuck up the land.

  • @Nerdarchy

    @Nerdarchy

    7 жыл бұрын

    Dragon Sorcerer X Yea there was a lot of great things to cherry pick from the setting. Nerdarchist Dave

  • @roccaflocca4312
    @roccaflocca43127 жыл бұрын

    I've never played Dark Sun but I really, really wanna. It strikes me as kinda like that last part of Heavy Metal.

  • @Alefiend
    @Alefiend7 жыл бұрын

    Yo dawg, I heard you like psionics, so we put psionics on top of your psionics, so you can psionic while you psion. Sadly, Dark Sun came and went while I was busy playing other things, or playing nothing at all. I'm a huge fan of gritty fantasy (I'm sort of an amateur Conan scholar), so this would have been perfect for me.

  • @videogameplaybynerdarchy1706

    @videogameplaybynerdarchy1706

    7 жыл бұрын

    Just the right amount of psionics

  • @farancellfarancell2533
    @farancellfarancell25337 жыл бұрын

    We just started a "homebrew" dark sun campaign, trying to change as little as possible from 5e. So basically just taking out a lot of monster and putting in some classic dark sun ones converted. Leaving out some races and reskinning a lot of stuff. Like Muls get the half orc stats so forth and renaming everything divine into elemental magicwise. Working out really well so far and you get to test out a lot of UA stuff. Furthermore we play an evil campaign for which is setting is perfect for, as everyone is more or less evil and that leaves you much more room for acting out evil without too many repercussions everytime. For everyone who likes the old sword, sandals and sorcery stuff and hokuto no shinken with a very heavy metal 80's flavour to it this campaign setting is really awesome. Like playing in a world drawn by Frazetta. For further inspiration I suggest reading all the Troy Denning Dark Sun books. Nevertheless an official version really needs to happen.

  • @DanteTCW
    @DanteTCW7 жыл бұрын

    I haven't played D&D Dark Sun, but I have run a short campaign in a conversion of the setting for Savage Worlds, Consult Google and use the conversions that are available for free, the whole Swords and Sandals works perfectly for Dark Sun IMO.

  • @patryan69
    @patryan697 жыл бұрын

    Hear Hear! Love me some Dark Sun

  • @curtismorin6396
    @curtismorin63967 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget that metal is very rare on athas. Only the rich could afford it. They also use ceramic bits as currency as a result.

  • @ddcardo
    @ddcardo6 жыл бұрын

    It's funny you should call it a closed world. It was introduced long before the 2nd ed setting came out in the Spelljammer comic books.

  • @Gigacom
    @Gigacom4 жыл бұрын

    Eu e meus caras vamos começar uma campanha depois de amanhã. I'm really excited because I haven't played Dark Sun since AD&D. I've been playing RPG since the 80's but I'm pretty outdated with D&D 5th. Wish me luck!

  • @DougVehovec
    @DougVehovec7 жыл бұрын

    i've been itching to play some 4E Dark Sun but if WotC wants to make it 5E i'm all for that too!

  • @Grombrindol
    @Grombrindol7 жыл бұрын

    Next to Ravenloft, Dark Sun was my favorite D&D world. Alas I did not get to play there much as everyone at the time wanted to play Forgotten Realms but I always held out hope.

  • @johnlewis4945
    @johnlewis49456 жыл бұрын

    5e dark sun would be sweet

  • @cameronhaigh1891
    @cameronhaigh18915 жыл бұрын

    I ran a 5e dark sun campaign for a while .death saves 17 or higher to succeed HD for healing during short and long rests healing kits

  • @Arkanoid1212
    @Arkanoid12127 жыл бұрын

    I think is very consistent, i like the vancian atmosphere, i like its apart from Forgotten Realms in its very own way. Magic works very different. Its skewed. Whilst divine magic, with the exception from possibliy elemental magic doesn't work any more arcane magic is moved from its, in Forgotten Realms, more or less neutral into the deep harmful (actually its what made the world what it is). To fill the blanks we have a lot of psionics on basically everything. The environment being what it is with the notable exception of a few spots where ecology still thrives. Why? Well because its fiercly defended. Everything nature left is pretty much able to defend itself - because it has to, i guess. Dragons... mmmh... thats also special. There is only one, which is basically the most powerful sorcerer king undergoing some sort of transformation. So if you think its pretty crappy to loose dragons as a creature... well... that place is taken over by the drakes which are pretty, pretty powerful in this setting, along with halflings, elves and eladrin and so on. Metal is scare, meaning lots of weapons are bone and such. Its pretty much Forgotten Realms gone Mad Max. From all the expansion settings it makes the most sense to me. The divine-magic-psionic thing is a bit strange, as is bone gear (and that makes traditional Forgotten Realms still the top choice for me), but when looking for something different this seems like a top choice. Sadly there was no Darksun in 3-3.5 (starting with 2nd, if i remember correctly), making a comeback with 4th but we all know how that turned out. I'd definetly like to see it for 5th and i think i'd probably go with an eladrin/elf in this setting, although... you won't be welcome within the sorcerer kings cities. Definetly not. Its very interesting as a gameworld but it wouldn't be exactly the spot i'd pick to settle with in real life, which is why i like it, i guess.

  • @izare1296
    @izare12967 жыл бұрын

    This actually sounds pretty cool.

  • @maromania7
    @maromania77 жыл бұрын

    I love literally everything about dark sun. it hits all my favorite parts of playing games. I don't even like psionics, but I still LOVE dark sun in every way! this is the one kind of setting where I can like psionics XD You've also given me an idea of a campaign. Nibenay feels his first twinge of fear. the news is hidden to all but him, the village it was discovered in slaughtered along with the messenger. but rumors still abound, spread from the elves. Rumors that the King failed his task. A gnome has been spotted. and it wants blood. and if it makes it to the capital, its appearance may be all which is needed, as an open declaration of revolt. or a cause for war, Hamanu has had far lesser reasons in the past. even the Shadow King might fall, and the adventurers must find the gnome, either to execute it for bounty or protect it for rebellion. The kings hate to admit it, be even they are still mortal...for now.

  • @hawkeyes277
    @hawkeyes2777 жыл бұрын

    I need to play some Darksun...also I was wearing the same shirt as Ted as I was watching this video, lol

  • @homerwood502
    @homerwood5024 жыл бұрын

    If dark sun took the psionics out of it ,I would love it

  • @MC-gj8fg
    @MC-gj8fg7 жыл бұрын

    Ability score rolls were 5D4 rather than 3d6 in Dark Sun. If we were to go point buy how would you adjust for this? 5D4 is an average ability score of 12.5 compared to 10 with 3D6. If we were to change the point buy from 27 points to 42 points and allow for the purchase of the ability score of 16 for 11 points and 17 for 13 points that would min-max out at 3 ability scores of 17 to start and 3 ability scores of 9. A Human could start with a 20 in something at the start of the game which in the case of Dark Sun isn't necessarily excessive. In fact I would probably increase the ability score caps to 22. On the other hand it does create an average ability score of 14 rather than the 12.5 it should be. There's a big difference between an average score of 13 and 14 though, and increasing the point buy to only 30 would create this. Of course, the average of 10 via the 3d6 method iosn't really what we need to be using for a basis for comparison anyway since you can have straight 12's with one 14 via point buy anyway. Perhaps the best way to proceed is to give all players a +1 to each of their ability scores just like vanilla human, and they can add their normal racial modifiers on top of that. Again in the worst case min maxed scenario that human would be able to achieve a strength of 19, which I'm a bit more comfortable with at 1st level. Hell it's not like his shitty bone sword is going to do him any favors. He'll be +4 to hit/dmg from his strength and -3 hit/dmg from the penalties of his weapon anyway until he manages to find a dagger made of real steel. Gear that doesn't inflict penalties in their use is basically Dark Sun's equivalent of a magical weapon. Also, am I recalling correctly that everyone in Dark Sun, including all the PCs, had some degree of psionic ability? If so, I suppose giving all the PC's Mage Initiate as a free feat at characters creation would be the best way to handle this, swapping out mage spells/cantrips with psionic abilities. Err,...does 5E have official psionic rules anywhere yet?

  • @warellis
    @warellis7 жыл бұрын

    In 4th edition, doesn't Dark Sun have some access to some planes other than the Grey and Black? I think I remember something like that.

  • @grayscribe2125
    @grayscribe21257 жыл бұрын

    I hope I remember this right. If you wanted to play a character from another plane, he should be at least level 3 to survive amongst level 1 Dark Sun characters. That's how deadly Athas (the Dark Sun world) was.

  • @tomharris5649
    @tomharris56497 жыл бұрын

    I think they're not going to release Dark Sun, or Eberron for that matter​, until they get psionics​ polished, seeing as how it contributes to either setting (Dark Sun moreso). Psionic Restoration, the mystic discipline from the UA, is like having divine healing when no deity is present, which fits Athas perfectly.

  • @Nerdarchy

    @Nerdarchy

    7 жыл бұрын

    Tom Harris of course unless they release psionics with the setting. They've done a bit of work on it with UA now. Nerdarchist Dave

  • @tomharris5649

    @tomharris5649

    7 жыл бұрын

    Nerdarchy I completely agree. Here's a thought. Give the official mystic to the Dark Sun Campaign Setting and give the official artificer to an Eberron CS. Good business and thematic releases at once.

  • @MoonMoverGaming
    @MoonMoverGaming7 жыл бұрын

    Something something Dark Sun...my main takeaway from this video is that Dave has awesome tattoos.

  • @thenot-so-epichundredknigh1547
    @thenot-so-epichundredknigh15477 жыл бұрын

    Yo, if there came a Darksun setting for 5E, that would be the first game I try to DM, it sounds like a blast.

  • @timkramar9729
    @timkramar97292 жыл бұрын

    I've seen reference to a Dray, similar to Dragonborn.

  • @RobertAdducci
    @RobertAdducci7 жыл бұрын

    Way to keep the setting alive! We just put a Dark Sun podcast out! Discover who the Templars of Athas are in the first episode of Bone, Stone, and Obsidian: A Dark Sun Podcast with Wayne Chang and myself! misdirectedmark.com/bso001-templars/

  • @dn420zanlog
    @dn420zanlog4 жыл бұрын

    I wish they would make a 5e Darksun line. I actually bought the 4e Darksun books just because i love Darksun so much. They were the only 4e books I bought ... But I actually like 5e and support the game

  • @dn420zanlog
    @dn420zanlog5 жыл бұрын

    I hope they do make a darksun for 5e... i refised to buy 4e and even then i got the darksun books for it

  • @adamholcomb200
    @adamholcomb2007 жыл бұрын

    I'm a big fan of Dark Sun they had similar to LFR in 4e the Ashes of Athas living campaign for Dark Sun which would be awesome for 5th edtion

  • @sircory1337
    @sircory13374 жыл бұрын

    I’ve always preferred “mool”.

  • @vecna00
    @vecna007 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Just yes.

  • @hunnicuttp
    @hunnicuttp4 жыл бұрын

    You’ve never lived till 2 players 1 halfling 1thri -kreen fight over another player’s dead character. Elves taste like roast beef. Who knew?

  • @DyrgeAfterDark
    @DyrgeAfterDark7 жыл бұрын

    I Remember Dwarves at adult hood had to swear an Oath and stay true to it onto thier death otherwise they would be reanimated as an undead

  • @krisd1998
    @krisd19987 жыл бұрын

    Dark Sun and Planescape were the best campaign settings in AD&D. Dark Sun requires in my opinion the piecemeal armor rules and currently the 5E lacks the extended rules. So in best estimates we are at least 2 years away from Dark Sun campaign setting in 5E. And WotC should release first the Forgotten Realms and Eberron campaign guide books, before they revive Dark Sun. Dark Sun's take on the enviroment / Athas is the best in any campaign setting and it teaches many DMs and Players to look different at the world in that they are playing, like Ravenloft teaches us a lot about what real monsters are. And that makes Dark Sun quite unique and awesome.

  • @knate44
    @knate444 жыл бұрын

    4e had serious issues, but at least it had darksun.

  • @cmmosher8035
    @cmmosher80357 жыл бұрын

    So is Dark Sun basically DnD's answer to Vance's Dying Earth?

  • @dn420zanlog
    @dn420zanlog4 жыл бұрын

    mule has a e on the end mul isnt the same word

  • @rbbearthwormjim
    @rbbearthwormjim6 жыл бұрын

    do more dark sun videos pease

  • @JosephLRutledge
    @JosephLRutledge7 жыл бұрын

    Funny, I've always pronounced it "mool" because "muhl" never sat well, and mule was too plain.

  • @easterbunny3850
    @easterbunny38507 жыл бұрын

    hey city boy...what's with them arm pants?

  • @C2daORRUPT
    @C2daORRUPT7 жыл бұрын

    I fear running dark sun because I feel you need exquisite descriptive skills to really get across the point of how horrible of a world you're in. Having players roll survival , constitution, nature etc... checks, knowing the results could result in death faster than combat. It's tough to keep all that in mind

  • @gpks22
    @gpks227 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the video, but it was only 10 things about DS.. not reasons why 5e needs it.

  • @garytrent9693
    @garytrent96937 жыл бұрын

    Sounds super cool,... BUT, i would never mix it with D&D5 . They need to be seperated. Forever. They are 2 different games to be enjoyed for what they Already are. But, thats just my opinion. BTW liked the vid thou \oo/ Stay'n Nerdy T.Rust Monster

  • @brianstephens7572
    @brianstephens75727 жыл бұрын

    Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription is more Dark Sun.

  • @brianstephens7572
    @brianstephens75727 жыл бұрын

    I'd rather have Dark Sun than Eberron, hands down! I love the Mad Max vibe. Every Darksun game should have a version of a Barter Town and/or Thunderdome.

  • @finnianquail8881
    @finnianquail88817 жыл бұрын

    Ayy lmao

  • @zeromancer-x
    @zeromancer-x5 жыл бұрын

    Personally I think D&D needs a 6th Edition before it needs Dark Sun (or any other world sourcebooks for that matter).

  • @jonnyeldritch
    @jonnyeldritch7 жыл бұрын

    DS is cool and all but we need 5E Dragonlance first.

  • @MrMaxBoivin
    @MrMaxBoivin7 жыл бұрын

    Stop fucking around, 5e needs Planescape!!

  • @Ultack
    @Ultack7 жыл бұрын

    5th edition sux. It rapidly become repetitive. No more magical items that is worth the label. Magic is dead. Its all the same crap for any class, just something to use so many times per day. With the 5th edition, the thrill is gone.

  • @ckmishn3664
    @ckmishn36643 жыл бұрын

    Given the abortion that was Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft, as well as the current politics of critical race theory loving Hasbro and conservative hating Wizards of the Coast, I would just as soon they leave beloved settings like Dark Sun well enough alone. Go back to destroying settings nobody cared about anyway, like that place 4th edition was set in, or one of the "Magic the Gathering" settings.

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