itoi really said "i was traumatized as a child by this scene, so iwant other kids to be traumatized too"

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much 😅 in different ways, but still capturing that feeling...I think he's just not afraid to explore these complicated themes and doesn't hold back because he believes in childrens' intellectual resilience. He wanted to tell a story only an adult could tell, through the lens of a child

@WasItSky

2 жыл бұрын

i love you

@dudeman5303

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThaneGaming that's a really good way of putting it. In a way, earthbound shows children the extremely dark things but does so in a way similar to a parent. I really think earthbound had almost completely unanimous positive influence on people who played it - especially children. It hits in certain way other games don't and in ways other games never could. Because a lot of the topics addressed are things that would be extremely traumatizing in real life, and I think it's extremely important for children to see the world for what it truly is. But the way they are shown the world really matters, I know certain parts of my childhood traumatized tf out of me and I wouldn't want someone else to have to go through those same things.

@ElonMuskrat1930

2 жыл бұрын

Да

@sNaReOn3

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThaneGaming your phone you can do it to the house and it is a you can

"The Child Who is Not Embraced by the Village Will Burn it Down to Feel its Warmth." - perfect description of Porky's journey in the Mother series

@_timetravels4528

2 жыл бұрын

this line is so good. Why do I feel so much comfort thinking about the analogy.....

@Ken-ru6or

2 жыл бұрын

@@_timetravels4528 it promises retribution

@ethanpeacock63

Жыл бұрын

Is anyone happy for Porky actually getting what he wants in the end, and it causes no body else's fate in the end?

@danniramey5876

Жыл бұрын

I can see that, it definitely does feel and seem like that must be what the creator is trying to tell and show an adult story through a innocent point of view from a child. Especially since the main character use kid l

@danniramey5876

Жыл бұрын

Sorry about that, but yeah like I said it does seem like that is what the creator of the Mother series was trying to tell a very dark and adult like story ( mostly with the third and final game) by the point of view of a young kid.

I think one of the most fucked up things about Mother3, is that Kumatora was almost certainly intended to be the last magypsi until very late in game development. she, like the other magypsi's, has pink hair, and several NPCs mention having a hard time telling if she's a boy or a girl. she hates dressing as 100% feminine, has close ties to the magypsies, unused art, and her magic powers are very similar to the other magypsies. Imagine the devastation of having just survived Claus, and then having to pull her needle.

One of the saddest moments of foreshadowing Claus' identity comes from the way we see him wield his lightning sword to attempt to electrocute Lucas' party the first time the Franklin badge hits back. He swings it diagonally and then down in the exact same way Flint swung a piece of lumber around in reckless distegard for his loved ones when learning about Hinawa. We already know Flint left a traumatic violent impression on Lucas through his abusive specter on Tane Tane Island, but here we see Claus attacking his own brother using the exact same violence he learned from that terrifying moment in his life.

@kohakuinu4189

2 жыл бұрын

Wow., never noticed it

@ethanpeacock63

Жыл бұрын

Maybe read my comment on the whole video, and all replies it gets, so you can really feel sorry for the all characters in the mother series.

@voiceofthelegion578

Жыл бұрын

I first played and beat this game close to a decade ago and I'm still learning new things about it.

When I played Mother 1 for the first time, when I got to Magicant and found the Flying Man's house, I thought "Cool, another party member to help me grind my way through that dumb cave". He fell in battle, and when I went to the revival house, he couldn't be revived. My next thought was "Oh, he probably just ran home", then I saw his grave. And I never used another Flying Man in my playthrough.

@IsThisShitOn7

Жыл бұрын

Me too. Even now when i replay again, i avoid the flying mans and just grind my levels up.

We started on crows quitting smoking, we ended on a brother committing suicide out of regret and fear of his past and future actions, just wanting to go back to his mother's arms I love Earthbound so much

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

This is one of my favorite comments yet 😆 thank you

@sebixdorit

2 жыл бұрын

Technicaly this sarted with a posses Lamp and ended with a Dragon destroying the world for make a new one

@Squib-kb2tn

Жыл бұрын

Suicide? I never interpreted it as suicide... I always thought that it was Claus realizing it was finally time to rest. I mean, Porky basically just reanimated his corpse, right? Claus wasn't meant to be alive.

@elkarlo1593

Жыл бұрын

@@Squib-kb2tn that still counts as suicide

Dark Aspects of EarthBound Beginnings & EarthBound = ½ an hour each Dark Aspects of MOTHER 3 = TWO HOURS

@theheckler399

2 жыл бұрын

rightfully so, for my all time fave game :)

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@theheckler399 it's certainly become my favorite of the three, and it's forever in my top three list for favorite games of all time 😊

@NateState

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't stop me from watching the whole thing

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@NateState you're awesome, thank you for watching it all!

@TheRezro

2 жыл бұрын

​@@ThaneGaming Giygas background is even darker then you said. George escaped after Maria died, when small Giegue fall in despair distracting aliens. Because they didn't understand emotions only thing they could do was to wipe his memory and call experiment a failure. Many years later during preparations to invasion, Giegue learned from analytic device known as Apple of Enlightenment that boy hold key to his defeat. Learning about his PSI powers, he launch attack prematurely assuming that is the threat. But it set him on self-fulfilling prophecy because fact that he did try kill descendant of Maria, was the key. When kids start singing lullaby, he regain memory and fall in despair again. There is a interesting theory regard Earthbound events not being as most people think. There is obvious plothole, what could be intentional. Regard the fact that Giygas was supposedly attacking form the past. But how if he was defeated? Furthermore in Mother 3 we learn that great war did happen. Some people imply that traumatized Giygas was actually locking the system. But Dr. Andonuts (who is absolutely sus) working with Poki manipulate party to remove him from power, exactly so Poki could takeover the system leading to the war. And finally. Even if series would not be continued (for many reasons, most notably it being Itoi way to deal with his own personal problems). This franchise quite possibly has continuation. Ape known now as Creatures is in fact one of core members of the Pokémon company, responsible for the lore. In fact Pokémon has tons of references to Mother with most obvious ones being Ultra Space from Sun and Moon. Also fun fact: "é" is read as "i". It is a French letter, with Pokey (Poki/Poké) Minch also being French in origin. In fact Mother 3 would explain character of Lieutenant Surge from Pokémon Red/Blue, who is canonically American (yes!) soldier fighting in long forgotten war in the past. I really hope they would reveal in Pokémon Legends: Arceus, it being actually continuation of Mother 3. It would be amazing!

I love how it’s basically “yeah, Mother 1 and 2 are kinda dark but Mother 3 will break you in half.”

I think its worth mentioning that the cycle of abuse is a major theme across the Mother series, with Giygas being abused by his race, to him abusing Porky, to Porky abusing Claus. However, the ending of Mother 3 seems to break the cycle.

first hour: a genuine deconstruction of the dark aspects of Mother 1 and 2 last 2 hours: just a recounting of the plot of Mother 3 since it's entirely dark concepts broken up by brief moments of levity

Itoi actually specifically wanted the cigs removed from the GBA port _because_ he was quitting himself. I think he wasn't comfortable with it being made such light of.

Personally, I find the the darkest line of dialogue in Earthbound is if you say "No" to being having your consciousness put into robots to fight Giygas. "Yes, it's natural to feel as you do. The only thing left is the destruction of our planet..." -Dr. Andonuts.

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Ooh, that's a good one. I love how sardoniclly it's delivered 😅 the atmosphere of that entire scene and most every line by Dr. Andonuts is a gold mine of Dark Aspects

@MariaIsabellaZNN

2 жыл бұрын

Ruined a little by being delivered through a character called ANDONUTS, but I am sure in the Japanese original it was more foreboding.

@legomaniac856

2 жыл бұрын

@@MariaIsabellaZNN Well, Andonuts are what they call donuts filled with red bean paste in Japan, so make of that what you will.

@hunbi1875

2 жыл бұрын

@@legomaniac856 so no, it wasnt more foreboding

@legomaniac856

2 жыл бұрын

@@hunbi1875 Indeed, it wasn't.

I believe that Giygas is one of the most spoiled moments in gaming history, right up there with Sephiroth and Bowser being the final boss of a Mario game.

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

True--seeing Giygas without context is what got me to finally try out and play through the game though! Sorry if you dislike the fact that I put it in the thumbnail...I normally wouldn't

@Nachisoubu

Жыл бұрын

Wait, Sephiroth is the final boss of Mario?

@crinklyonion1410

Жыл бұрын

@@Nachisoubu Yeah, he’s the final boss of the new Mario and Luigi game.

I believe the Forgotten Man is Maria’s husband. He lived in isolation, forgotten. It could be Maria trying to remember what he was like after running away

@scoobs2.088

Ай бұрын

woah I never thought of that

@TWMFanclub

Ай бұрын

@@scoobs2.088 Yeah! Also completely forgot I made this comment lol

If you think I'm gonna watch 3 whole hours about series of children in striped shirts getting traumatized… You're absolutely correct! I loved the EB/Mother series!

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

The funny thing is that is a completely correct one-sentence synopsis of the entire series. I can see it as the tag line for a trilogy compilation 😆 Thanks for sticking with it for the 3 hours...let me know what you think!

@queen-lilyorjiako268

2 жыл бұрын

@Ik Don't forget Deltarune! Lots of trauma there.

@voidthesupermassiveblackhole

2 жыл бұрын

@@queen-lilyorjiako268 correct The teacups... Snowgrave spamton fight Jevil I ...I'm shivering... Very scared

@badvibesnick6135

2 жыл бұрын

@@queen-lilyorjiako268 b m,

@rz2374

2 жыл бұрын

@@voidthesupermassiveblackhole If your being sarcastic, Deltarune suggests various dark things which can be inferred from text primarily in the light world. e.g. It's possible Susie is homeless as none of the houses in the town are suggested to be hers. From dark world text, its likely that Noelle's sister December has died or gone missing.

I always thought Porky was the realest victim of MOTHER. He, maybe influenced by Giygas, kickstarted everything because he was jealous of Ness having everything he didn't. Including a loving _mother_ . The entire series is clearly about love and the absence of it - not necessarily hate, but the feeling of love and loss, or never having been loved at all, and how tragic and horrific that could be or turn people into. It sort of hit me watching this that the incomprehensible form of Giygas could be interpreted as what the anguish of _knowing_ love, from Mary, and living without it for a Very long time might look like, especially considering the last thing we know he did was being defeated by the sound and memory of her lullaby. He's the actual picture of confusion and grief. Plus, he's an alien, we have no idea how he works I like that Mother 3 brings it back from cosmic horror to a more grounded, human-centric story after that especially, because Pokey was _there_ when Giygas was destroyed, which literally _had_ to be extremely traumatizing, then he ruined himself using a time machine, and still, after countless years, he remembers Ness, and remembers wanting to be his friend most of all. But he keeps those memories locked behind high security. He's ancient, but he never grew up. It's a very scary idea to me. He's just a kid with no family and an annoying knock that wanted a friend. Everything he did is reprehensible, but if you trace everything back to the origin, those were the catalysts for Earthbound/MOTHER 2 and later 3. Arguably the real reason is George stealing PSI but w/e, it still led to that. Anyway, there's my spur-of-the-moment Ted Talk, I'm gonna go subscribe now. Excited to see more of your content.💙

@benlong1256

2 жыл бұрын

Porky s just the worst

@starlite5154

2 жыл бұрын

I understand, but he did too much shit for me to feel bad, you dont destroy the world because you wanted to be someone's friend

@icefiredragon94

2 жыл бұрын

I mean at the same time his interaction with the party before his boss fight blatantly haves him note - "Oh it's okay I've been abused so I get to do whatever I want to everyone else in retribution, because you'll forgive me right?" I feel too many people fall into that trap in real life where they forgive harmful actions that are understandable but not justifiable. Regardless of what happened to turn him into a monster he still hurt people sorely for entertainment since he's still mentally a child unwilling to grow up

@FrogmaskMusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@icefiredragon94 I think people who instantly jump to "Yeah but Porky sucks" are missing the point of the comment-- And he does! Porky is an insufferable prick throughout Earthbound and just a straight up monster in Mother 3. But I think what's really highlighted here is that Porky demonstrates a cycle of abuse and *especially* what happens when someone chooses to just follow it-- Porky didn't get love, so he wants to deprive everyone else of it. And that's disgusting, obviously, as explainable as it is. But showing compassion-- disrupting this cycle, giving love to someone who doesn't have it-- is all the more important to make sure it never spirals to Porky's levels of true, unhinged, childish cruelty. A lot of people read Ness (possibly?) rejecting Porky's friendship as the turning point for Porky's unmatched destructiveness later on. And that's understandable too-- Ness is a middle schooler tasked with saving the world, who pretty rationally doesn't want to deal with his annoying, bratty neighbor who just collaborated with a child-kidnapping *cult*. But Ness, thus, never steps in at a point where Porky *could* really benefit from it. Never at any point can Porky's actions be called forgivable. He's awful. Genuinely awful. But I think it's more important to instead interpret them as *preventable.*

@orangesouls7112

2 жыл бұрын

@@icefiredragon94 I agree, too many people forgive too easily. You're only a victim until you make someone else a victim, too. If someone lashes out and yells, that's forgivable. If they tread into a pattern of abuse, they've crossed a line. Same with depression leading to becoming negligence, and many other things. While people should ve understanding, and even allow one to work to atone for what they've done, but there's a line one crosses where "your problems" are no longer just "your problems" once you've inflicted them strongly enough on others with no remorse or will to change.

In the thumbnail, Lucas is the only one who has a coloured, non-dead sprite. The embracing posture shows that he is the most mature of the bunch, perfectly willing to be above evil instead of only defeating it. Nice touch.

@tonic196

2 жыл бұрын

i thought it was just because ninten and ness are dead in mom 3

@waddledee6642

2 жыл бұрын

The music scares me. The old technologically restriced Sprites of mother 1 adds to my horror.

@Lynk56

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by being above evil instead of just defeating? I don’t remember Ness and Ninten doing anything bad 👀

@alchemistofsteel8099

Жыл бұрын

@@Lynk56 Ness and Ninten beat random dogs on the street with baseball bats for the lolz

@metroidcomet1116

Жыл бұрын

@@tonic196 Lucas’s fate is unknown considering the end of Mother 3, but I like to say that he and the rest of the cast survived after pulling the seventh needle

When i was a kid, i would keep repeating Buzzbuzz's dialogue so he wouldn't die. Letting go of him made me so sad.

I think the end of Mother 3 is the only time I ever saw my older brother tear up to any kind of media. I remember afterwards he expressed to me, who was experiencing the game with him, how much he loved me, which isn't something he often does. That it would kill him to see me like that and that he would die for me. Him as well as one of my younger brothers have experienced a lot of health complications through their lives. It's not easy to watch your siblings suffer immensely with no way to really help. Perhaps it's best we played it down in the basement instead of up in the living room, as my mom lost her sister when they were just barely adults. I can't imagine what it would be like to loose any one of my siblings at my age or younger.

@niaure6516

Жыл бұрын

❤

@Acacius1992

Жыл бұрын

Can't relate in the slightest. My Brother was a blackmailing asshole who bullied me constantly trough my life. Outside of blood we don't share anything. And i couldn't care less if he passed away. Same as it eas with our parents.

I always named Jeff "Coffe" after the first playthrough cause that makes his name Coffe Andonuts. I know it's silly but I think it's lore friendly considering the oddball sense of humor this game has.

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

I'll have to remember that one, love it! Itoi would be proud

@saldoesstuff1065

Жыл бұрын

Would it be pronounced “Coff” or “Coff-e”?

@SwissestCheese

Жыл бұрын

@@saldoesstuff1065 coffee

It's my theory that it was Porky who caused the apocalypse before Mother 3. His time traveling and Mother 3's character's lack of memory of the event would make sense to me.

@josephgravley3603

Жыл бұрын

@Ur Money Lol True, but given Porky's ability to time travel, and his immortality, it could work. And the fact that everyone but Leder was made to forget the apocalypse may add more credence to that theory. And who knows, maybe Leder did know it was Porky's ultimate doing, but chose not to disclose it for whatever reason. Doesn't make sense, but it is possible.

@josephgravley3603

Жыл бұрын

@Ur Money Lol Not necessarily, Porky may have started it, but everyone else didn't have to go along with it.

@EngiGODS358

7 ай бұрын

Or maybe porky somehow started the apocalypse. Not the guy who did everything but maybe he set the ball rolling towards it.

“This line finally breaks him and me too.” This one sentence is such an expressive summation of how it feels to experience this scene that it’s almost poetic

What i interpret the ending of mother 3 is one that i heard some where and agree with. When Lucas pulls the needle, what ever the player wanted to happen happens. If you want it, the dragon destroys everything. But on the other hand, if you want it, the dragon get rid of porkys influence and gives everyone a happy ending. Its all based on the player.

@SBaby

2 жыл бұрын

Then why is Porky in the 'END?' screen?

@Johurph86

2 жыл бұрын

@@SBaby Because he's in the Absolutely Safe Capsule. It survives absolutely everything, or it wouldn't be absolutely safe.

@SBaby

2 жыл бұрын

@@Johurph86 But when the thing has no form, there is no way to protect against it.

@Johurph86

2 жыл бұрын

@@SBaby Yet even you say the "thing" has no form. Formed or formless, it's apparently still a "thing," thus resisted by the capsule that protects from every-"thing"... :D

@SBaby

2 жыл бұрын

@@Johurph86 No, the capsule protects from every FORM of attack, not every THING. If it protected from every THING, Porky would never have been able to enter it in the first place.

I like to imagine the forgotten man is George's spirit, they're both lonely forgotten and want to be alone.

@LowCountryMatt

2 жыл бұрын

I thought they were just Greta Garbo

@PoipoleBoi

2 жыл бұрын

@@LowCountryMatt Greta garbo? Who's that again?

Earthbound series resembles that of an American Saturday morning cartoon like Charlie Brown and the Peanuts gang. When you look more deeper into the game, IT ranges from a silly comical cartoony, too deep mellow and very disturbing. Shigisato Itoi merely did that to us on purpose. He mixed American style art, with Japanese proverbials.

@jamesoffutt2801

2 жыл бұрын

Eldritch horror.

Fun fact: The Robot-Time travel thing might be a reference to the movie Terminator where you can only time travel as a human or at least with a human shell whereas robots are shattered

2:17:00. This whole section made me cry. I lost my mom back when I was freshly nineteen. I’m freshly 26 now, and something about learning about these games, and knowing we used to play smash and wonder who ness was, well it made my night a lot better. So thank you.

@Sage_Orias_YT

Жыл бұрын

It's a little creepy...like vague foreshadowing. "Oh ness? He's you, basically, in the future." At the time you're like "what? No way" but now you think about it and go "Holy shit...that's creepy"

"Seeing Salsa get shocked made me feel bad...that didn't stop me from doing it." Toby Fox, taking notes: Mmhmm, mmhmm...

I really liked the itoi quote about getting through pain as well. I’ve struggled with depression for about half my life, and I’ve been going through a rough spot lately. Itoi has a really nice way of looking at the world, I think. I’ve always seen a bit of myself in the characters he creates. They’re relatable to just about everyone in different ways I think.

2:58:09 - There's a theory that the ASC is the actual Devil's Machine. If you consider that Earthbound is more of a REMAKE than a sequel to the first game, then it would explain just about every hole in the story of both games. It explains why he is effectively using the same kinds of attacks that Giygas uses in Earthbound (he didn't have those moves in Earthbound). Porky, who was alive for countless millions of years, completely loses all sanity and literally becomes Giygas. The ASC is indeed impervious to damage, which is why you basically can't defeat Giygas with any kind of attack. But praying enables you to use a kind of attack that has a form that can't be perceived. So there is no possible way to defend against it, and he is ultimately destroyed while the younger Porky taunts Ness at the end, completing the time loop.

@GarryDumblowski

2 жыл бұрын

God, I absolutely love this theory. I think I've heard it a couple times, that Mother 3 is the middle game in the series and that the first two games are retellings of the same story, one of which took place before Mother 3 and the other taking place after the Dark Dragon awoke and reset everything. Which is which, I'm not sure, but it sorta feeds into this theory, I think? Though, something still confuses me, which is that clearly Giygas is still depicted as the leader of the aliens in Mother 2. Are Giygas and Porky just... different incarnations of the same person? This series breaks my brain sometimes.

@SBaby

2 жыл бұрын

@@GarryDumblowski Giygas is Porky. The aliens in Earthbound are likely either a separate race of beings that he met at some point in the millions/billions of years he lived, or they're artificially intelligent robots or cyborgs that were created by technology so advanced that humanity can't even fathom it. Bear in mind that Porky in Mother 3 was already augmenting people and creatures with cybernetic implants. So this would just be the evolution of that concept.

I'm surprised you didn't touch on the sewer/absolutely filthy apartments at all. Those buildings, with their own musical theme and sheer out of place placement has always intrigued the heck out of me. Were they an old version of New Pork City that was later built over? Were they the remnants of a predating Nowhere Island civilisation, like Osohe Castle? The distinct lack of acknowledgement or explanation always gripped me.

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Hey good point! I honestly didn't think of the sewers as much more than a way to explore the grimiest depths of the polluted city, to see where all that runoff waste & toxicity pools. New Pork City is not built to last, and this vile underground system is a good way to show that (along with Porky's lack of care for his citizens, and the environment of course). The apartments are definitely harder to explain, and the fact that they are abandoned is a bit unnerving so I'm glad you brought them up! As a wild guess, maybe they were newly constructed as living quarters for the Pigmasks in charge of building the city? Forcing his workers to live in such an unsightly, unsanitary place sounds like a very Porky thing to do. And since it's all underground, maybe the sewers/apartments were the first spot they looked for the needle? That makes even more sense for the apartments to have been left behind--once work started on the Empire Porky Building everyone moved to dig over there instead 🤔 thanks for the comment, this is really interesting to think about! I almost want to make another video on the topic...if I do I'll be sure to cite you as the inspiration!

@Duskool

2 жыл бұрын

I take it those apartments were meant for either the troops and staff building the city, or the brainwashed people Porky ripped from other eras.

Eventually Porky stopped thinking, still undeniably absolutely safe for all eternity.

Fasaads fate is so satisfying, WAY too often in media do characters who do UNFORGIVABLE horrible things constantly just get some quick painless death, like if it had ended with him falling off the platform I would’ve been disappointed Bc that’s too quick and good for him, but him slowly becoming more and more mutated to the point of not being able to communicate is just so great

@AaronJLong

Жыл бұрын

Being a Magypsie, Fassad likely was alive after that battle. Battered, broken, constantly drowning in sewage, unable to climb out, but unable to die until the final needle was pulled. A fitting fate. I just feel bad for the mouse, though. The mouse did nothing wrong.

@panthekirb7561

4 ай бұрын

​@@AaronJLong itd be a more fitting fate for Fassad

Mother 3 is like that one line from Gravity Falls: "the audience will be crying... from laughing! from how TRAGIC it is..

I'm glad you talked about your OCD. This is a weird comparison but in high school I got super sick and it developed into an autoimmune condition. I have a ton of food intolerances and a lot of neurological symptoms because of that. Its nice to be reminded that other people have stuff too and its ok for me to be the way that I am. I loved this entire series. You did a wonderful job. I've never played any of these games but i definitely am going to look into it now.

I always speculate that the "ended world" of Mother 3 is the Giygas ruled eternal darkness that Buzz Buzz travelled from to warn Ness, allowing for the 2 timelines to be connected in a bit of a mutual paradox.

51:35 Probably changed to nightmare from demon due to demon being used more frequently, this way it would hold higher impact on player.

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

That is a good point--I don't like using repeat language either so Marcus could've just wanted to mix it up. Ness' Nightmare is still a really cool name

@alxcus2962

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThaneGaming Also Alliteration.

@link_team3855

2 жыл бұрын

Woah when did this happen... (maybe i should pay more attention to existing lul)

Itoi is such a beautiful soul, wanting to help us all grow with his art, while still providing laughs, tears, and thrills. Masterful

To the writing and and the dedication this would have taken, this shows that this community is still alive and better than ever. Keep it up!

This is the first time I'm quantifying this, and putting it into words. Please bear with me. The final fight has always resonated with me very, very deeply. I've never really understood why. It's more than it simply being tragic, it really sent shocks through me the first time I saw it, and every time after. It hasn't lost its' effect even slightly. I got properly diagnosed with PTSD, and it's been something I've lived with a long time, in hindsight. I can't help but feel that the reason it feels so impactful to me is.. well, I know what it's like to live a life that feels like it was a thousand miles away, or happened to someone else. Trying to remember a lot of things is like listening to an old VHS, its a struggle to really attach those memories to real events that really occurred. Now, with getting treatment and getting away to somewhere I can begin to heal, I get those shocks sometimes. It's like waking up and suddenly realizing that my actions are all my own, that all of these things happened. It's like living through all of them at the same time, all over again. It's still really, really overwhelming. I'm rambling, but.. I wonder if that's what it feels like. TL;DR internet person is sad

As a huge fan of the Mother series, I still hold out hope that the N64 version of Mother 3 will get an unofficial fan re-creation. The version the world got is a masterpiece but that still doesn't satiate the desire to witness "what could have been"

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

I'm with you... I feel that especially recently with all the new discoveries and findings about the game, we have a better understanding as to what the scrapped build was like and all the ways it differed from the MOTHER 3 we got. I'm sure that with all of these bits and pieces archived, someone will someday attempt to recreate a playable MOTHER 64 😊

I could never play MOTHER 3 on my own; I had to watch someone else play. Having lost a lot of members of my family growing up, it pulls at my heartstrings in a way that I can't really put into words. Mr. Itoi really made something beautiful.

Itoi just sum”if I get childhood trauma we all get childhood trauma”

Dude this is fantastic work! I haven't watched the whole thing yet but I've enjoyed your thoughts and analysis so far :)

@dakotathacker3821

2 жыл бұрын

did you finish it yet?

@luiginumber1549

2 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed yours as well

@calebelliott2629

2 жыл бұрын

Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Edit: Wtf is this I fucking butt dialed an entire reply while I was sleeping. KZread must have been on auto play wtf. How does this happen where I fall asleep, KZread auto plays to this video, I somehow click on this comment to reply, click to add a reply, hold the y key, and then send the reply. WTF AM I DOING IN MY SLEEP?!?!?!

@frds_skce

2 жыл бұрын

You're based

@carlrygwelski586

2 жыл бұрын

Finish it yet?

This has more effort put into it than a lot of analysis videos in KZread. You MUST have more subs, really You are close to 10000, btw

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

That is so great to read, really. Thank you! My goal is to reach 10,000 subs by the end of the year; the plan is to put out a mix of Dark Aspects and other unrelated MOTHER videos 😊

Hi there! I just watched the entirety of this video and I wanted to thank you so much for making these. The Mother franchise as a whole (though specifically the third game) has such a big meaning to me and I was so happy to find someone who enjoys these games with such passion as I do. These videos were well researched and very clearly had so much heart and soul into it and watching the entire thing was a journey I'm so happy I was able to be on. The Mother 3 chapters, in particular, made me relive my favorite game of all time, and I even found out a lot of things I never even knew existed about it like the fact that you can go to Tanetane with Lucas and Boney alone. My sincerest thanks to you for putting so much hard work into this series and making something I and so many people love into something you can look at from a new perspective ^^

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Wow! Thank you so much for the kind words, I'm really glad you took ths time out to watch all of this and left such a detailed comment. I did put my heart & soul into this, it was always a major goal of mine to compile a crazy long analysis like this for my favorite game series ever, and include trivia diehard fans might not even know! I'm happy it gave me an avenue to talk about them with as much depth as I wanted--MOTHER 3 has resonated most with me as well (in large part due to Itoi interviews about that game explaining what he was trying to accomplish with it). I will never stop uploading videos about this trilogy, and the third game will always be a priority 😁 I'm just happy this passion project came through and MOTHER fans like yourself can appreciate it!

@freesheep0

2 жыл бұрын

To piggyback on this comment. I love videos like these to watch while I go to sleep and eventually see the whole thing. I hope each one of my views counts towards the overall count.

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@freesheep0 that's awesome, thank you so much 😊 watching while you fall asleep is a good idea, I should do that more often...I usually either listen to longer videos like a podcast while I do chores (but then you miss out on visuals) or watch them slowly in parts and keep coming back to it whenever I sit down to eat. I'm not sure if they count as separate views but it does for watch time which is super important and helps the channel a ton!

"Remember the forgotten man I mentioned in the last video? Well, don't. He's supposed to be forgotten." This is when I subscribed.

The Absolutely Safe Capsule is a horrifying concept. I wouldn't inflict that fate on anyone, not even Porky.

ah mother 3. like so many people i had named the family after my own. but since i had lost my own mother it was a terrible reminder of what happened. and then i named lucas and clause after two online names i liked using. the grief they went through mirrored my own and it ended up being too real for me

Plot twist: Regarding the PM Army hypothetically being able to ressurect the dead. Imagine the sheer pain Lucas must've felt if Hinawa would have been brainwashed as well, and transformed just like Claus.

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

That would have been intense. I believe in the theory that visions of Hinawa in the Tanetane hallucination were what was cut to make it less horrifying, so perhaps Itoi had the idea of bringing Hinawa back like Claus at one point and scrapped it. Would've been interesting to see the mother & child villain dynamic--maybe Flint would've had a more integral role in making them momentarily come to their senses at the end? Sorry this is months late lol, I was looking back at the comments again and realized I never responded to this

@Duskool

2 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised they didn't stoop that low, considering they built a secret path under the graveyard, at the same time though, since Hinawa was a rather popular person on the village, any Pigmask entering her gravestone area would've immediately raised suspicion, especially if caught by Flint. Now that you bring it up i'm still not sure why the Zombie Lady enemies look like her. Flint was gonna have a more integral role, according to unused sprites, but it would've been in other chapters, i assume during Chapter 7 when the gang splits up

@sonic40001

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThaneGaming, no problems, Happy New Year with lots of dreams coming true! I do remember Itoi saying that the original dialogue for TaneTane Island made himself scared. So maybe Hinawa *was* the integral contributor to the scare factor, but we never know until Word-of-God doesn't reveal it. Not that potential parent abuse from Flint wasn't enough, though.

@sonic40001

2 жыл бұрын

@@Duskool, great points. Also, the weird thing with the Zombies is as follows: - if they were present, in a way or other, in a "natural" state around Tazmily, Wess would've explicitly advised Duster to have caution to them, since -after all- these two were walking outside at night; - Pigmasks somehow reviving Hinawa as a zombie would be plausible, if not for the fact that they really have an obsession/necessity(?) of reconstructing them using technology. I personally think there was some minor narrative factor in Earthbound 64, where the Zombie(s) appeared as well, and might have very well left out in the GBA final game. IMO that would've been the link to the Zombies and their potentially raised relevance to the story.

something a lot of people don't realize about the mother series is that it's also the tragedy of Gygas. Undoubtedly Gygas native species is cold and uncaring, leaving their young to fend for themselves, and in a rare case, leave one to a surrogate mother. Maybe... Just maybe these humans possessed the power to control their emotions to enhance their own PSI abilities. Of course Maria and Gygas have a mother-child bond immediately. However George escaped, abandoning his wife, and only god knows what he's taught every other human about their abilities. They are dangerous, they need to be careful, send their absolute strongest. The only one amongst them that can use their PSI in harmony with their emotions. Gygas leaves to earth, ready to absolutely annihilate the planet, but he had this feeling in his stomach. Something that was new to him, something other people of his species couldn't possibly understand. A gut wrenching feeling, yet warm, hesitation and compassion. I can only imagine he was told by his higher ups that given his newfound and weird feelings, he could save a handful, but ONLY a handful of the natives to this planet. He didn't want to do this, he wanted to save them all, nobody had to die. His choices however were to choose a few, and destroy the rest, or destroy them all, and Doom the species to extinction. Self doubt and unwillingness flooded his mind as he fought Ninten, he knew he was fighting family, he didn't want to, but these were his only obstacles. He was fought back. And eventually driven to insanity due to his all encompassing love of Maria. PSI and Emotion and darkness becoming one. Omnipotent, uncontrollable, and mindless. Gygas never wanted this.

Going to mention Undertale, so be warned. I am so interested in the Mother Series considering Toby Fox said that it highly influenced the creation of Undertale. I wonder how much the darker aspects of Mother inspired the darker aspects of Undertale and Deltarune. The presence of darkness, the themes of love and death, and the use of time machines...it keeps me thinking and trying to dig deeper. There's also Toby Fox's Earthbound Halloween Hack, which directly led to the creation of the titular character Flowey, who reminds me a lot of Porky. The idea of being unloved, or unable to feel love, and therefore becoming evil and hurting others...it's quite haunting.

Hey, thanks for featuring some of my translations! BTW, I'm currently revising my old material from the Encyclopedia MOTHER, and found I made a lot of errors back then (around 2006). For instance, in the cemetery, the gangsters weren't martyred, but committed "junshi" -- that is, they did *themselves* in, through fidelity to a fallen leader. The link to my new translations is at the top of the old Webs page for the Encyclopedia.

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Woah, hey there Kenisu! Big fan of your translations & contributions to the MOTHER series, thank you for the comment and the new info. I'll be sure to check out the link, perhaps I'll do an update for this retrospective! I was actually planning on mentioning you again in a separate, upcoming video--I'm going to be covering the two Saori Kumi MOTHER novels that were recently fan translated by Nyaasu Nekoban and wanted to give a brief history of prior attempts to translate them into English. Would I be able to ask about your own efforts? From my research, it looks like you did put out excerpts from a handful of chapters and a complete sample of the first chapter. Do I have it right that you finished a rough draft of the full book that wasn't posted online? I also wanted to ask if you've read Nyaasu's version, and what you thought of it. Thank you again, feel free to reach out any time; let me know if you want a link to the video script!

@kenisu3000

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThaneGaming Sure thing, I'll write up my history with the novel's translation and get back to you!

The way that I interpreted the... final action, in Mother 3's final encounter, was... So... man, it's hard to think about how to articulate it but... I couldn't help but imagine what it must be like, to ostensibly have your consciousness go quiet and dark, then be roused again, and be forced to confront the realization that you've been gone, presumed dead by your family and loved ones for several years--those years completely lost to you, existing at most as cruel memories of being made to do terrible things without any power to have stopped them, and now you're waking up to yourself having just heavily wounded your father and still in the middle of trying to kill your brother, who had to live thinking you were dead all that time, and who you've hardly seen in all that time, outside of the previous times you tried to kill him, now being woken up by your dead mother's voice begging you to stop, and rest... And all at the age of 13, with the past 3 being stolen from you, no time to live and develop as a person in all that time, having spent it numb and silent inside your own head... ...There's a reason I cried, in the middle of the encounter, at the end of the encounter, and like, three or four more times the night that I finished the game, and several more times since... like right now... There's, even more, going on, in my head, that's difficult to unravel and put into words, regarding my interpretation of Claus' choice but it... even as someone who's very luckily never had to struggle with suicidal thoughts... I feel like I get it...

You've really done a good job with this series! You already have over 3 hours worth of content

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying so! It’s definitely the biggest project I’ve done for the channel, I’ve been really looking forward to this compilation because it’s so satisfying seeing every episode come together 😃

This took me a while to finish. Thank you so very much for your labor of love. The Mother series is like Chrono Trigger to me; I own the games and I desperately want to play them but life got busy and I can’t finish the games in any reasonable amount of years. Watching this video, I have cried, laughed, and felt goosebumps run up and down my body. Thank you thank you thank you!

I didnt know that mother was undertale before undertale was a thing lol As someone who never as played or really heard about the origin games of ness and lucas, this video was so damn cool and really peaked my interest in the series, very well done!

@ShotaroAsakura

2 жыл бұрын

There's a big reason Undertale, Lisa: the Painful and Omori were al inspired by Mother.

Never really got to play this series as a kid. I recently got into it all when i was like 19 ish so about two years ago and i gotta say i love this series so much. The stories they tell are so heartwarming and i love how much the stories Itoi tells touch people (including me), no matter the age. Ive yet to finish earthbound yet but i wanted to ty for making these videos, Thane.

My favorite part of Moonside is the guy who yells at you because you're interrupting him while he's busy doing nothing.

mother 3 still never fails to make me cry

"Onett" would be pronounced like "Won-ett", which I always found to be quite a synchronicity as my Mother's name was Lynette, and she always remembered the game because of this. She just passed away this last Halloween. 😓 Anyways, you might notice that though it is the #1 town and therefor is called "Onett" it can also be pronounced like "Own-ett" which would suggest it is meaning to express that it is a dream land, and that these two pronunciations ultimately say the same thing about it. I am alone.

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

My condolences to your mother passing--thank you for the sweet anecdote about the similarity between her name and Onett. I won't forget that, it's so nice she could connect with the game and had an easy way to remember it 😊

chapter 6 never fails to make me cry. Even after 3 playthroughs, I will cry at the mention of chapter 6 and the music from chapter 6.

Something to add that might me missing in translation for Mother 2. 4 choice was intentional but only understood in the japanese version. First of all. 4. The number 4 is often omitted in japanese, because its associated with death. Not only death and 4 sound similar depending the pronounciation. But also it is related to ghosts folklore. many buildings straight up don't have a 4th floor, skipping right to the 5th. And in Moonside case i will make the wild guess it's a reference to Pink Floyd Dark side of the moon.

@AcidRavelEffect

2 жыл бұрын

probably because trifectas that possess a fourth component -- the fourth component is of pseudo-intrinsic value. i.e. what does a tree need? water, sunlight, soil. air is the pseudo-intrinsic value. what does a pbj sandwich need? peanuts, jelly, bread. heat is the pseudo-intrinsic value. how many primary colors are there? 3. how many logs to form the ideal vector for a fire? 3.

I got into earthbound years ago because of the talks of a very dark final boss, giygas! Same reason as you. It’s now my favorite game series ever. Thanks internet!

After watching this, I’m genuinely curious about something… where’s Picky, Pokey’s brother?

@donnie_duckling

2 жыл бұрын

Knowing what happened to the multiple universes/timelines that Pokey visited and how, apparently, the predicted future of all of them was an apocalyptic event that finished with almost all humankind except for a few selected individuals; and the abusive household usual model where one of the abused kids escapes, having the only child left having to endure even more abuse than before to "make up" for the "insolence" of their sibling... If Picky didn't die due to the apocalypse, then he probably did or at least suffered greatly the rest of his life due to the abuse he probably had to endure with Pokey's absence.

Incredible video. This truly felt like going down memory lane, but with all the neat facts and tidbits added you've made me remember why I love this series so much.

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

This is the best sort of comment I could read; that's exactly the feeling I want to evoke with my videos! I'm so glad this one had an effect on you, I too am always reminded of why I love this series when I'm making them 😊

I'm ready to watch all 3 hours! I'll report back what my thoughts are! official report! i adore your passion in the narration, it's obviously invested and ready to read, and it kept me focused while doing something else, something that is rather difficult for me to do. to put it simply, it's very catching narration. to put it honestly, it's perfect for this video. the theorizing and plot analysis is satisfying and convincing, and as much as I wanted to say "what about this?" you managed to cover my thoughts as well, even in passing. Your coverage of threads and leads were intense and well done, and I'm very impressed with your work here. I have a lot more words I want to describe but just can't put it together right enough. I am very very proud of you.

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

You’re amazing! I’m praying like Paula there were no issues in the merging process 😆 yes please let me know what you thought overall, if you had any favorite or least favorite parts going through the whole thing!

@Zawmbbeh

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThaneGaming I’ll go thru a few times and check back in what I think was great and what could help with next videos, for now I gotta sleep so far though, while I wind down watching it, the narration is engaging, and the emotion/mood setting is quite hooking! pacing is solid, though I would make transitions more of a quick and fluid “chapter” kind of transition, not sure how to describe it. plot description and personal/objective theorizing feels genuinely interesting! your passion for this shines through and that helps me get immersed quite a bit

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zawmbbeh That'd be great, thank you so much for the feedback! I'm glad to hear those aspects resonated with you and that my passion for doing the series justice came through! As for the transitions, do you mean I should do more of what I did at 29:10 and clearly separate topics? Thanks again for the thoughtful comment 😄

@Zawmbbeh

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThaneGaming that works! i think what i meant back there was to use narration to merge the episodes rather than a cut and title card, though that is a fine way of doing it as well. otherwise i loved everything in this video!

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

That is the kindest feedback I've received in a while--I truly thank you for taking the time to watch it all and explain in detail what in particular resonated with you! I have started listening to this video again like a podcast myself so I can reflect on the flow and which parts of the script sounded better; I agree with you on the episode transitions as they do end a little abruptly, so I'll play around with other methods next time to keep everything smooth. I'm really happy you enjoyed & found value in this, it means a lot that the longform narration kept you engaged. I've always thought that the script is the most critical element in a video like this, so I spent the most time researching and fine-tuning the writing! Carefully covering the games' themes in depth was daunting at first, so it's reassuring to finally have it altogether here, in a way that ultimately addressed the questions that came to you as a MOTHER fan 😁

2:56:33 “eventually, porky stopped thinking”

I wonder if the forgotten man in mother 1 represents how abandoned maria felt by George leaving her after studying Geigue. I am a massive earthbound fan but never played beginnings, but since Maria doesnt seem to dwell on George, maybe she repressed her memories of him, making him a forgotten man. Also George secluded himself after returning to earth

I also wanted to mention how well the music portrays emotions, especially when Lucas sees his mother the first time. The song "Mother?!" displays such joy and sadness, it truly makes you feel more like Lucas in my opinion. Such a great game

Man, this was the best analysis of this trilogy I've seen or heard and I've watched over a dozen videos on them. I didn't play Earthbound until the early 2000s as I had a Sega as a kid and not a Snes, but man, that game was so trippy I stopped part way to look up info on the internet to learn how a game this good and unique didn't sell well but its snes carts sold for over 700 dollars at the time (2005 time frame). Square and Enix Rpgs certainly looked better and had fantastic soundtracks so I know this game had to be off putting initially. But they are still influencing games today, and I'm sad that even when we eventually get a mother 3 translation (really Nintendo...), I doubt I'll ever see a new entry in this series

@michaelslowmin

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Itoi has stated he won't make another one, as he would have nothing to add to the series. He said something about making the games in parallel to his daughter growing up. He was divorced iirc and the split up of his family had alot to do with the emotions in the game. You can find it in his own words online. Its not hard to find :)

@krimsonkatt

2 жыл бұрын

Reggie has said that if they ever did localize Mother 3 they would have to cut a lot of stuff out that would be considered offensive in the modern day, like everything involving the magispsies, but then it wouldn't be mother 3 anymore. So Nintendo keeps the fan translation up despite knowing about it and treats it as official and endorses it internally but can't publicly release the translation themselves or talk about it because they'd get backlash.

@flewis02

2 жыл бұрын

@@krimsonkatt must be why one piece isnt being fully translated, Impel down and the Okama...

@flewis02

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelslowmin but I'm sure there are others that could add a lot to the series, imagine what Toby Fox could do paired up with the Everhood Developers...

@michaelslowmin

2 жыл бұрын

@@flewis02 That'd be cool. I also feel like it wouldn't be the same without itoi tho. These games were so personal to him, I don't think that anything could get the right feel. That's just my opinion tho.

The fact that I took 3 hours of my life to watch all of this shows my appreciation for Mother.

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Well thank you for watching it all the way through to the end! This took a couple hundred hours of my own life to make 😅 what'd you think overall?

@poke_kage5662

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThaneGaming honestly i loved it, it explained the inspiration and overall plot of Mother. My eyes started tearing up tho near the end of the video cause you reminded me of when I was playing Mother 3. When Lucas was fighting Claus and Lucas tried to hit him, it simply says "Lucas shut his eyes tightly" and he misses and then it says "Lucas wanted to cry". Hearing those words brought tears to my eyes. I'm glad your showing people the beauty of Mother. Keep up the good work dude👍(Fun fact: I got into Mother AFTER I mained Lucas. So I guess you could say Smash is the reason I love mother.)

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@poke_kage5662 thank you for saying so! I'm thankful the emotions landed for the ending segments of the video, I wanted to really do the game justice so I spent more time making sure I got the delivery right than anything else I've ever made. That's awesome you had the opposite experience to me in getting into the MOTHER series after maining Lucas--I'm so glad he continues to be represented in Smash for the chance that a fraction of that huge fan base might check out the game he's from and fall in love with it!

It's been a very long time since I've played the MOTHER games and seeing this video made me remember all those precious memories that I had with the games. The MOTHER games were my special interests from age 12 to age 17. Now I'm 19, turning 20 this year and recognizing how much these games have influenced my way of living. I've always felt a huge connection between myself and these games; after watching this video, I understand a lot clearly why this was the case. All of the major themes with the games are one's I relate with, one's I feel empathy towards. It blows my mind how even to this day, I can look at the MOTHER series and go "thank you for changing my life. Thank you for saving me from the darkest points of my life into one with light." Ness is my favorite character of all time to this day and Earthbound in particular changed my life for the better. The themes of MOTHER 1 and 3 only brought my understanding of life further. Even if I'm a huge fan of Jojo, OFF, TBOI, and all these other game franchises, nothing can ever come close to the connection I have with the MOTHER series. To this day, it's always been in my heart and always will be. Thank you for making this video and reminding me why I resonate so well with Ness and the rest of the characters and themes from this series. You did this series justice and I could feel all the love and care that you put into this video. Amazing work my friend.

As someone who completed Earthbound when it came out (I'm in my mid-30's), this was great to watch because it allows me to see where Mother 3 went. I loved seeing the callbacks to Earthbound in it. Amazing video. Liked and subbed

Great video. One minor point. The critique of capitalism is rarely reducible to "using money is bad" or "trade is bad", but that seems to be the main take-away from your part about why Mother 3 is not about anticapitalism. Anticapitalism has more to do with the accumulation of capital and exploitation of workers by capitalists, eg. the plotline with Salsa and Fassad. Granted, in most situations exploitation by workers more typically takes the form of a "work or starve" or "work or be homeless" kind of deal, where the whole society encourages a certain kind of production. But that's what metaphors are for. The way the Pigmasks change society into one where work is required to exist and where life is regimented around it is also pretty spot-on for a simplified critique of stuff like Chile under Pinochet or just straight up the creation of early capitalism. An introduction of the market logic by force and authoritarianism. Especially the part about some people straight up embracing this change and not seeing what's wrong with it. Also I don't think I even have to mention the claymen and the catfish. As for the game being more antifascist than anticapitalist, I'd definitely agree, but one might wonder why antifascism and anticapitalism is so often associated with each other. For example, why the majority of historical and modern antifascists are also anticapitalists.

@ThaneGaming

Жыл бұрын

I know this comment is as old as an Ancient Banana, but I wanted to let you know that I've since removed that segment from this video, after thinking about similar recent comments for a while. I was initially trying to suggest that I didn't think Itoi was so overtly delivering a black & white message that "capitalism = evil", but I did not spend enough time on that point well enough to have made it, and I do think my "main take-away" was weak. I agree with what you've written here, so I wanted to say thanks for your input (and helping me understand why I was wrong)!

@Eddn102

Жыл бұрын

@@ThaneGaming very cool. Still love your stuff by the way. I know this reply is even older than the comment were when you replied, but that's how it goes when the KZread notification feature is busted.

I did not cry either of my times playing Mother 3. But now, watching this video, I just did. Right as Claus went to Lucas arms. This was the greatest video I have ever seen, a true analysis of one of my favorite series with so much to think about Thank you

Thanks for putting this together! Was wondering what the Earthbound series was about. Was not expecting to be so pulled in by a summary video of it - probably should watch a let's play.

@esthertrklja8618

2 жыл бұрын

If you want a great let's play of Earthbound you should watch Chuggaaconroy's remake LP of it. It contains lots of trivia and he isn't rude.

I just finished the Mother series, and opened KZread to celebrate. This will be a nice analysis of my actions.

32:20 The joke is so ingrained in yhe series that Ness' dad is in smash ultimate as a spirit, literaly represented by a phone, and the fight is against noone

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

It being a fight against an invisible Snake is so genius...I absolutely love the spirits in that game

I find this series to be greatly underrated. So many characters that could very well be in smash bros

2:05:40 as someone who unfortunately got spoiled on the masked man.... I AGREE I WAS NOT READY FOR WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO WITNESS I WANTED TO CRY

this video got recommended to me at the homepage, this is actually really amazing content, thank you for taking the time to create and compile it all!! i really do love Mother 2 and Mother 3, they are both gems, but ive never really played the NES version. (Earthbound Beginnings/Mother 1) this video helps catch me up with lots of story and knowledge of all 3 games in one whole video!

This is extremely off topic in regards to the video in general, but I enjoyed when you touched on Itoi's inspirational quote and talked about your own experiences. Funnily enough, I experience migraines AND OCD. I've been watching this video due to being overheated and in pain due to an off and on migraine, and the way you described both the pain of migraines and the constant mental anguish of OCD really resonated with me and made me feel less alone. Super strange thing to take away from this video, I know. On another note, AMAZING work. Your analysis was incredibly in depth and was exactly what I needed to understand this series fully, and it kept me captivated the entire time. You deserve way, way more subscribers, and you got my subscription about 20 minutes into this video. Bravo.

One of the most depressing things I've experienced is listening to Battle Against the Masked Man while writing a character's death scene.

I'm a rulebreaker. I cried way before the end.

I do have a bit of a twisted theory on the "Forgotten man" in Magicant. Its porky. Or at least *was* him. He traveled through time so long he's forgotten whom he was, and nobody remembers him. He's become nothing. A fate worse than death. It could be possible this "Forgotten man" was a homeless porky minch after traveling so long and ended up in the late 1800s Eagleland hen Maria saw him as a little girl and he probably scared her away being bitter, old and forgotten.

wow, thank you for sharing your piece on ocd and greater things to come. you made my day and also really drove that point home.

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad that part resonated with you, I had wanted to talk more about my experience with ocd but was always hesitant--this was the game that really helped me cope & come to terms with it in a positive light though, so I figured there wouldn't be a better opportunity 😊 thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts!

I feel doctor andonuts managed to get back to his own timeline and I feel he took porky with him.

I’ve always thought that immortality is literally infinitely more dreadful than knowing someday I will cease to exist. The absolutely safe capsule encapsulates (har har), mixed with CLAUStrophobia, sums up my thoughts on the mater. I wouldn’t wish immortality on my worst enemy. Be happy knowing that your life is going to end, because that knowledge makes your life worth living and more importantly, makes it so you’ll never have to read my lame puns in the KZread comments section ever again.

Having the NPC say Fresh is also a sign Ness's nudity was removed last second, cause "Fresh" is an old times way of calling someone a pervert

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Oh! I didn't know this, that's funny. Thanks for the info 😅

43:13 I finished the game today for the first time ever (life changing experience, btw) and I couldn't help feeling shocked by that, because that's my name (a shorter version of it, more specifically, and the one I used when the game asked for it). So I had that exact same dialogue, and I don't think Nico is a common name at all in the US (I'm from Argentina).

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Woah, that is awesome--what a cool coincidence! I have some interesting trivia for you then 😮 that NPC, Nico, is named after Marcus Lindblom's daughter (Marcus was EarthBound's head localizer) upon his request. Nico was born during the localization of the game, so the team allowed her to go be the name of the character for the English version as thanks for Marcus' hard work on the project!

@ThaneGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Unrelated, but I also have a coworker from California who goes by Nico! He's the only Nico I know personally so you're right--I don't think it's too common in the US

Hands down the best MOTHER informational video on KZread. Congratulations on the views and great job on all the hard work!

Pokey will forever sound like Cartman in my head, and I wonder how many others share this mental image of his voice?

@ThaneGaming

Жыл бұрын

I voice Porky for PSI Universe, and I do go for a Cartman-like voice 😅

Moonside used to scare the crap out of me as a kid. I bought Earthbound when it was almost new after renting it and I still get flashbacks at 42 😂 I still have a Mother binge once a year and play them all though... --H

@AaronJLong

Жыл бұрын

EarthBound is a very special game. When you play it as a kid a lot goes over your head. As you get older you start to appreciate a lot more of the dialog and references that went over your head before. As an adult, you get to experience being a kid again, as well as the experience of being forced to grow up, nostalgia coupled with loss. Also, it's just fun to play and experience the story and wacky moments again, whether or not it evokes deep personal feelings that stick with you long after like it does with me. I'm coming up on 35, and due for a replay myself. Considering that my last playthrough left me with bittersweet memories though, and I managed to get all of the 1/128 ultimate weapons except for the bat from Bionic Kraken, though, I wonder if I should just let it rest.

As someone with mental illness and migraines, the discussion around the 1:55:00 mark is especially relevant; I'm not as optimistic about how my pain strengthens me, but we all have our own journeys.

Looking forward to watching this all as I’ve been replaying mother 2 and starting mother 1 for the first time so I can finally say I did, lol. I actually ordered the hobonichi Complete mother series scripts and the mr.Saturn scripts as well. I can’t WAIT and this helps me jog the series as I wait for my scripts to arrive. Thank you for sharing!

Bro these games are so good. I love them all and Mother 3 has been in my list of favourite games of all time for years and years. I sat down and binged this whole video at once and I don't regret it. I've seen loads of videos on them but I really like the specific details this looks at! Dark videogame stuff has always been fascinating to me so I'm defo gonna check out more or your channel--

DUDE IM SO GLAD I DIDNT GET ANY OF MY FLYING MEN KILLED DURING MY PLAYTHROUGH i wouldve felt so bad

Always loved how in Mother 2 lardna hit a 360 noscope on buzz buzz

Watched it all in one go. What a masterpiece of a game series, and you've covered it so well. I even cried looking back at chapter 6 again, and I now appreciate these games much more. Great job to you too!