The Absolutely Safe Capsule: The most horrifying fate in all of fiction.
The Mother series is notorious for its dark content, however this sinister fate in Mother 3 could very well be the darkest of them all.
The Mother series is notorious for its dark content, however this sinister fate in Mother 3 could very well be the darkest of them all.
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The funny thing is that Porky will likely never truly regret his fate. He is a literal man child who has lived for thousands of years and has never truly grown out of the mindset of a 14 year old brat. He would probably maintain a smug "I win! I win!" mindset until his consciousness somehow ceases, perhaps millions of years in the future. Porky is in a hell of his own making, but one that he will never truly be aware of.
@doctorspindash2.086
Жыл бұрын
well I'm not sure whether to pity him or laugh at him
Porky's fate in mother 3 gives me shivers, claiming it is the most worst and horrifying fate in fiction doesn't sound that exaggerated honestly.
@ceddavis7441
Жыл бұрын
What I think makes it so chilling, is that Porky didn't need it. It was his Victor lap, when in reality it is when he fails. Andonuts sold Porky a prison as a shield.
@wolfetteplays8894
Жыл бұрын
@@ceddavis7441 I don’t even know how he’s alive after so many years
@Minusbluye
Жыл бұрын
Boing
@GermanCricket13
Жыл бұрын
@@wolfetteplays8894it’s mentioned in game that he’s become immortal because of all the time traveling he’s done. It’s messed up his biology.
@reptiliannoizezz.413
Жыл бұрын
@@GermanCricket13 _And although he wished for death, he could never die. Eventually, Porky stopped thinking._
In the end, Porky got what he wanted: a world full of everyone who loves him... His own little world inside that capsule, where the only person who loves him is himself.
@dirge44
Жыл бұрын
Evangelion vibes
What is poetic is that Porky entered the absolute capsule willingly. He thought he won but in fact lose even in a worse way than dying. He even mocks you enjoying his "win". He enjoys his demise
"Porky was never able to escape the Absolute Safe Capsule, becoming a life between safe and agony, being unable to die even as he wished for it, eventually, Porky stopped thinking."
Immortality as punishment has been done in other media too and I think Pokey got the nicest version of that horrible fate. No eternal pain, just solitude and comfort. Really hammers home that, just maybe, he got what his twisted mind wanted in the end. You could even argue that he got away with everything he did up to that point. A fitting end for a spoiled brat
And eventually, porky stopped thinking.
@LyonLaster
Жыл бұрын
Lol nice one
@rainbowsnail4171
Жыл бұрын
I understood that reference
@ThomatoSauce
Жыл бұрын
Damn, beat me to it
@hasanmuttaqin464
Жыл бұрын
I understand the reference
Pokey is basically Eric Cartman. Driven by sheer immature malice. Too bratty to ever understand he's wrong. Too bratty to ever accept that he lost. Even 5 billion years after the sun explodes, Pokey will still believe that this is victory. He was so scared that others might inflict a punishment on him that he ended making the ultimate punishment on himself.
Thing is, Porky will eventually miss trolling the human race, and he won't be rolling around in glee anymore.
@lolrus5555
Жыл бұрын
That's a nice consolation as someone that hates Porky after all the shit he pulled and hated the implication that he was A-Okay with his ultimate fate.
@thedrewdog
Жыл бұрын
@@lolrus5555 Porky lives to torment and cause misery -- especially coming from an abusive household. Grief can make people into monsters, but it's no excuse for Porky's villany. He deserved what he got.
I like how the world literally gets deleted and it is ultimately left ambiguous if everyone survived or is a ghost now, yet the capsule actually survived that. Truly an absolutely safe capsule.
Finally a way to stop the immortal snail from touching and killing me
@BzotsOutOfIllinois3500
Жыл бұрын
WE HAVE LIED STOLEN LOOKED PREVERSELY AND USED GODS NAME IN VAIN SO REPENT AND TRUST IN CHRIST FOR HE SAVED U HELL ON THE CROSS
@icecreamwaffles1962
Жыл бұрын
@@BzotsOutOfIllinois3500 no
@Numbabu
Жыл бұрын
No
@alfalldoot6715
Жыл бұрын
@@BzotsOutOfIllinois3500 Schizo
@alfalldoot6715
Жыл бұрын
@@icecreamwaffles1962 Ew an atheist
Porky's story always struck me as uncompromisingly tragic, he was a young kid who was never shown real love by his parents, either being given materialistic gifts from his parents as a substitute, or being outright abused for not even doing anything at that point in time to deserve it. Then, he's distanced from the one kid who he felt could've been his friend, Ness, while he's slowly corrupted and taken over by the evil influence of Giygas (a villain I also find very tragic, Mother has great villains that aren't appreciated enough.) By the time we meet him, or at least his army, in Mother 3, he's completely bored with life after becoming immortal and ostensibly all-powerful, so he messes with the life around him in a materialistic way because that's all he ever knew how to interact with the world around him, he was always completely denied of real love and joy, so in a way you could view his constant want for living and success as a sort of hope that eventually, he'll find something to make him feel genuine love and happiness just for once in his life. Yeah he was an asshole, and by the end of Mother 3 it's definitely hard to feel much compassion for him, but when you realize he's basically still just the same old little kid that we knew in Mother 2, it makes him feel like a much less straightforward villain, and more like a tragic kid who was always volatile cause he never got what he really needed in life. And yeah the fate is extremely horrifying, especially if you think of Porky in this way, almost makes you feel like he didn't deserve it. Also I think JoJo Part 5 may have an even more horrific fate for a villain, but the ASC is still a top contender for sure lmfao
@elibridgers2781
Жыл бұрын
His brother Picky had the same parents, and he turned out fine.
@balanceherosmt7170
Жыл бұрын
The worst part of it, its ambiguous if Porky truly wanted to be isolated from the rest of the world for eternity, which I believe he does.
@m8rs558
5 ай бұрын
@@balanceherosmt7170 I don't believe he did. He wanted there to be nothing left but him and the Dragon
I remember playing Mother 3 as a kid and it genuinely scarred me (but kind of in a good way). It wasn't afraid to be really challenging emotionally and so much of the story has stuck with me and affected my own perception of the world. The double-meaning of "Absolutely Safe" is alluring and brilliant.
@revolverspsychedelicbreakf8747
Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how works of fiction can be so emotional cathartic, ain’t it? As weird as it sounds I sometimes forgot Lucas, Kumatora, Duster, Flint, etc. aren’t real people. Mother 3 perfectly balances sheer human emotion with amazing world building, their world feels legitimately real which is a substantial achievement on Itoi’s behalf and the way he incorporates life experiences into Mother, Mother 2, 3 is simply beautiful. I was a kid when I first experienced it as well. I was a 9 year old in 2011, which is when I first played Mother 3 and it completely challenged my values and perspective on life itself. I remember when I first got to the infamous shrooms trip on tanetane island and hearing Claus’s line of "Everyone's waiting for you. Everyone's waiting to throw rocks at you, spit on you, and make your life hell. Who's everyone? Everyone you love." Absolutely bone chilling. And yeah I’m not ashamed to admit I cry at Mother 3’s ending every single time. Sure a lot of the aspects of the Mother franchise are scary, they’re intended to be this way. And I feel like once you create a piece of art that completely alters your perspective of the world itself you truly have achieved the ultimate goal of an artist. Creating a masterpiece.
@switch1e
Жыл бұрын
@@revolverspsychedelicbreakf8747 easily in my top 5 games ever
The capsule being a Spirit in Super Smash Bros Ultimate makes Porky’s fate even more horrifying since the Spirits are supposed to be what’s left of all the characters wiped out by Galeem. Eventually, Porky will lose what little trace of identity he had left and simply become the capsule itself, with Galeem being the only one to possibly put him out of his misery.
@JuulietPod
Жыл бұрын
I thought this as well but the impact of this is lessened dramatically by random go-karts and weapons also becoming spirits. Definitely wished those were cut
In 5.5 billion years, Porky will be floating around the universe still thinking he won.
Honestly, what I think is scarier is that Porky probably prefers the ASC. All he cares about is himself, and now everyone who opposes him can't bother him anymore. To him, it's probably heaven.
There's 1 saving grace which, has not been accounted for by the sheer fact that the technology was not even IMAGINED back when the game was made. The Absolute Safe capsule has a window. That one can see Porky through and, most likely, Porky can see outside from through. That means that 1: Communication between the inside and outside would be possible via visual gestures. he could learn to communicate with someone who finds the capsule that way and give them instructions. 2: Said visual gestures, could control systems that read them. We have technology like that nowadays which are often used to help paralysed people use computer systems (specifically by using their eye movment for input). Which would mean the capsule could be strappped into a spider mech that is controlled by visual input through the window. It would be an isolating experience, but he already was permanently stuck in bed so it wouldn't be a HUGE change.
@zoltanvarga3109
Жыл бұрын
It's kind of nice to think, y'know? He could stargaze until oblivion. Makes it a bit les lonely. I also love to Imagine Porky getting numerous levels of highly fortified life-support. I guess that's just how stubborn he is.
@rheokalyke367
Жыл бұрын
@@zoltanvarga3109 as someone who struggled with depression in the past (I got better), there were times in my life where I wouldn't have minded it, just endlessly sleeping away in perfect safety while occasionally waking up to take in the view. Excessive sleeping was one of my big copes back then.
@mr.mcklockwork3828
Жыл бұрын
You forgot he cant move his own body at all. He wouldnt be able to make gestures.
@rheokalyke367
Жыл бұрын
@@mr.mcklockwork3828 he... He did make taunting gestures through the window though. Its literally something that happens ingame
@F1areon
Жыл бұрын
@@rheokalyke367 That's meant to be more along the lines of sticking his tongue out at you, not hand gestures or things like that.
The question of "Should this fate happen to anyone" is what's difficult to answer. However, what is a more definable question is "Was the same complex that drove Porky to commit his crimes against humanity the same that made him want to get in the capsule?"
@QxCooL
Жыл бұрын
another question to ponder is if it's a complex at all, or something left over from giygas's corruption of him. was it giygas's influence and the mani mani statues, or did it simply bring out the worst in him, that was there all along, by relating to his broken home life?
@mr.mcklockwork3828
Жыл бұрын
@@QxCooLi feel like its almost all Gigyas. I mean we know it corrupts people's minds with just its INFLUENCE, and Porky was just standing a few feet away from the damn thing. I feel like he was just a kid who got wrapped up in something he didnt understand, like he was tricked due to his greed. Why else do you side with space-satan instead of your own childhood friend and species???
@balanceherosmt7170
Жыл бұрын
@@QxCooL I'd say Giygas brought out the worst out of him, Porky had a unloving childhood and Giygas' influence made him choose to embrace being a selfish self serving tyrant.
@QxCooL
Жыл бұрын
@@balanceherosmt7170 interestingly, giygas had somewhat of an unloving childhood as well in the form of george's experiments, and i like to think it was intentional in the story for him to use porky because he's another kid with messed up parents, making him an easy and relatable target
".....Eventually, he stopped thinking."
@_Channel_Deleted_
Жыл бұрын
Eventually, he stopped thinking.
The dude has survived long enough to see civilizations rise and fall, and still wants to go on a mass murder rampage? So he'll be alone with his master? He hasn't, oh I don't know, tried not being an awful person? At that point he's had plenty of chances to grow and change. He hopped into the capsul himself. Probably without knowing how it worked going by what the Professor said. He deserves his fate. Even more so because he inflicted it on himself.
Imagine being trapped all alone all by yourself inside a capsule that literally is absolutely safe at all times. There is absolutely no way out. No food. No water. No entertainment. No friends. Absolutely nothing. And all you can really do is just stay in the capsule for all eternity even after the universe implodes on itself, you’ll still be trapped in that capsule all alone by yourself forever and ever.
Some people say that Porky "won" when he sealed himself. I could not disagree any harder. He may think that at first, but he says "For the time being, I'll seal myself in this capsule" which shows he thought he was gonna get out. I can't imagine the thought process of "Oh god no, I can't get out of this thing." with the knowledge of you being immortal in the back of your head. Oh yeah, you're also trapped in the body of a coughing, wheezing old person forever. There's nothing to look forward to. He also has the mind of an immature young person, and he does things to alleviate his boredom. How long before he gets tired of a capsule that can hardly fit one person? No matter what he thinks about, and no matter how bad he wants out, he'll be there. Humanity might colonize other planets by that time, and escape the Sun exploding, so who knows where humanity will be. Maybe prospering even more, maybe gone. But at least no one else will be stuck in a bubble while every star inevitably dies out. Eventually, there will be nothing to love, nothing to hate. Porky will have only himself, his infinite boredom and his decrepit body.
@ErikCarlson-en4vz
9 ай бұрын
How big is it though? It looked pretty big in the footage. How could it only fit one person?
@prismavoid3764
7 ай бұрын
@@ErikCarlson-en4vz Porky entered complete with his now-destroyed spider mech, which would take up almost all the room and make it pretty cramped in there.
@wdmasterluke403
6 ай бұрын
Can’t he just choke himself to death?
@F1areon
5 ай бұрын
Probably not; his body is insanely old and decrepit and NEEDS all those mechs to move around. Plus, even if he could, remember: ABSOLUTELY Safe Capsule. You can pretty safely assume there's some emergency protocol to stop choking, as that compromises the safety of the person inside. @@wdmasterluke403
@isauldron4337
4 ай бұрын
I've always believed Porky Will eventually go oh crap Because andonuts has a dialogue where he goes i fear i'm Wrong And itoi saying Porky is like a poem Yeah he'll probably at first be like lol But he's stuck there forever
Eventually, Porky stopped thinking.
Remember: It's implied that this fate may be _what he wanted._
@nicholasaugello2534
Жыл бұрын
IT IS what he wanted , to never have his life end. Atleast he'll eventually stop thinking and probably spend a long time in hibernation, dreaming endlessly on destroying more worlds and manipulating new beings of infinite variety and killing and toying with those that step in his way
@svetasubbotina8099
Ай бұрын
@@nicholasaugello2534 or something like Headspace from Omori.
@nicholasaugello2534
Ай бұрын
@@svetasubbotina8099 I wonder what Porky's version of head space would look like , maybe some kind of intergalactic dictatorship
I liked the little tidbit in Smash Ultimate where Porky doesn't have a spirit. Many though it was an oversight, or setup for a DLC inclusion, but I'd be willing to wager it was an intentional exclusion. The Absolutely Safe Capsule is a spirit - but it still served it's job of keeping Porky safe. Even Galeem's wrath, which killed more gods than I can count, couldn't pierce the Absolutely Safe Capsule. This small decision really further exemplifies the horror of Porky's fate
@salmonkindalikeme9316
Жыл бұрын
That’s amazing.
@cyanidepizza
Жыл бұрын
people were pointing out that it was the empty sprite for the absolutely safe capsule, but i think they’re actually incorrect. it is true that they use a different version of the sprite, but that doesn’t mean it’s empty. the sprite they see as the one that has porky in it is used when it first touches the ground beside him, disproving their claims.
@TheHomieLew
Жыл бұрын
I wanted Porky as a DLC fighter and I was in a great situation. When it didn't happen, at least I got to appreciate that pretty funny punchline
Considering how desperate Porky is for connection this is probably the worst possible fate he could have inflicted on himself
Eventually, Pokey stopped thinking.
@OlaftheFlashy
Жыл бұрын
*HOLY SHIT!! IS THAT A MOTHERFU* - Yeah, you all know the rest.
Is it a horrific fate? Yes. Does Porky deserve it? Absolutely.
To be fair, Porky/Pokey showed a lot of habits and tendencies that showed he was still child-like and was sort of regressing. The ASC can be seen as some sort of womb that he has forced himself back inside. I've seen this theory floating around for years and it holds up pretty well.
@uncroppedsoop
Жыл бұрын
what's up with mother fans and theorizing weird shit about pregnancy... oh wait a minute it's called mother
@F1areon
Жыл бұрын
Yeehaw, symbolism!!
mother's main theme is about growing up, it's not surprising that the worst fate they give a villain who refused to change is being stuck as the same immature person to the rest of eternity
Honestly, thinking on it. I wonder if the window on the Capsule is a blessing to the person inside or a curse. It's the one variable in a miniature world of nothing but constants. I think that it is possible to die inside a capsule that's absolutely safe. All you have to do is grow so tired of the window that you turn away. Eventually, turning away from the window is easy. Turning back grows ever harder. Eventually, Porky will look away for good. When he does, i believe that is when Porky well and truly dies.
@dissonanceparadiddle
Жыл бұрын
"eventually he stopped thinking"
@iantaakalla8180
Жыл бұрын
36 Absolutely Safe Capsules on Mars
No one wants true immortality. Even if you aren't locked in a capsule it would still be horrific. Imagine living a trillion trillion trillion years and being no closer to death than you were the day you were born. Eventually you would reach the heat death of the universe and just float in infinite darkness for all eternity. No matter what, you would go insane eventually. And no matter how long it takes to reach that point, you will still have an infinite amount of time ahead of you.
@jacobg8640
Жыл бұрын
There's an interesting theory that with infinite time, everything would at some point happen to someone immortal, including being confined for eternity.
@themustardman219
Жыл бұрын
That truly depends on whether the mere possibility of true immortality implies other more interesting, "unnatural" things that don't actually exist, or not.
@fabrypetty1689
Жыл бұрын
Nah if i wasnt in a capsule i would study and develop as well as master technologies and techniques so advanced that i would become rhe closest thing to a god or demigod. Cloning researching developing discovering measuring, with so much tine avilable the universe would simply become a playground to an immortal. Not inside a capsule though
@hydra70
Жыл бұрын
@@fabrypetty1689 You still can't escape entropy. Eventually you would be the only thing left in the universe, and there would still be an infinite amount of time ahead of you. It's hard for the human mind to grasp infinity. It doesn't matter how long you exist for, you still have an infinite amount of time ahead of you. Once everything and everyone you know is dust, the last star has died, and even the last black hole has dissipated, you would still have an infinite amount of time ahead of you. Eventually it would become absolute hell, and since you are truly immortal you would exist in that hell for an infinite amount of time.
@MAML_
Жыл бұрын
maybe its not so bad, with infinite time you get infinite big bangs and infinite earths
If you thought Porky's fate was horrifying, wait till you hear about the story "I have no mouth, and I must scream"
@lancebradshaw4829
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure AM is still subject to entropy and energy needs, so he'd still EVENTUALLY shut down.
@Forcoy
Жыл бұрын
I dont know why people call it the most hopeless story ever, I believe its a celebration of humanity as a species. Saving someone sheerily out of compassion, knowing well that youre going to suffer the worst fate in the universe if you do, thats the spirit of humanity. Were not rational.
@KyrieFortune
Жыл бұрын
@@lancebradshaw4829 that's a key element for how you defeat him in the game: make him realize he, too, is mortal due to simple decay of his circuits and entropy, until eventually the rust will get to its mainframe, his brain, and he will die. Whether it's in a cycle, a million cycles, a duodecillion cycles, it will happen.
@F1areon
Жыл бұрын
Nah, this one's worse. It's implied within the latter that AM will EVENTUALLY shut down and then Ted will die and be freed from his torment. The ASC? Nope, it's been made VERY clear there's no escape from that one; once you're in, you're in forever.
@galacticknight55544
Жыл бұрын
This is worse. The jelly thing won't survive the inevitable destruction of the planet.
I remember this was the fate of the big bad in the webcomic Crossoverkill. He was robbing entire realities of their death avatars, rendering entire planets unable to die, all in a bid for immortality. In the end, he was stripped of his powers, but the reaper from his own reality was so disgusted by him that it granted his wish. He was left alone, riddled with tumors and unable to even walk, on a world that had been purged by nuclear fire. Forever.
My new headcanon is that Porky cannot escape the Capsule because the floating Save Frog slipped into it at the last minute as he sealed himself inside, thus blocking the door and rendering him helpless to do anything but to save his progress for all of eternity.
@nicholasaugello2534
Жыл бұрын
Atleast he can talk to the frog until.. he dies of starvation. R.I.P save frog
@F1areon
Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasaugello2534 Wouldn't the Save Frog be absolutely safe, as well?
I don't think Giygas is evil as much as he is an embodiment of love and hate. He loved his mother so much, when the world took her away, all he had left was pure hatred at the universe for doing so. Porky on the other hand, he is pure evil. But as anyone will tell you humanity has an evil side, I think even the purest of evil has a human side. From the start of Earthbound, all he really wanted was a friend, and he really seemed to see Ness as a friend. Everything leading up to the end of Mother 3 in New Pork City screams heartbreaking loneliness, especially that room with "Master King-P's very precious friend's yoyo." But evil doesn't have friends, and I think Porky understood that eventually. I personally think he knew exactly what he was doing, going into the absolutely safe capsule. His last dregs of humanity shined as he sealed himself away so he could never hurt anyone again.
Eventually, Porky stopped thinking
Porky's fate always horrified me. I'd like to think that because Porky has been in that capsule for so long he sort of becomes a "second giygas" or some other strange being. I can't imagine what being stuck in there for millions--or even billions of years would do to you.
@toasttitan3253
Жыл бұрын
Or maybe it’s a time loop and he is actually giygas
@RYUUsballpit
Жыл бұрын
@@toasttitan3253 highly possible! I also think that’s a great theory regarding the capsule.
@uncroppedsoop
Жыл бұрын
@@RYUUsballpit but Giygas loved his mother
@RYUUsballpit
Жыл бұрын
@@uncroppedsoop Giygue loved another person as a mother figure, rather than his actual biological mother if I recall correctly! So the Porky theory could still work in that regard.
@lukef3284
2 ай бұрын
@@RYUUsballpit Maybe Porky/Giygas' army expanded the ASC into the devil's machine, as not only does the ASC simulate a womb, but also the whole fetus theory.
In my opinion, boredom is probably the worst emotion a human can experience. It’s something that I feel like no one really talks about. It has the potential to be an absolute nightmare for your mind.
@Pinwheelsystem
Жыл бұрын
Tell me about it. Ur looking at one bored person here
Since the series has psychic abilities, I am fairly certain that Porky's mind would eventually be able to reach beyond the capsule. Porky becomes Gygas. Perhaps Porky learns to mentally travel as the eons pass. I suppose eventually Porky is left with just its desire to cause pain. I guess the desire is so strong that it influences intelligent beings.
3:40 Imagine a mother 3 anti-piracy screen where after using one of those it just doesn't let you out, like the capsule
@BridgetGX
Жыл бұрын
Shit, that's BRILLIANT
Well it’s a good thing that he’s in there and we’re out here and he’s the sheriff
@robertwyatt3912
Жыл бұрын
And I just realized- we’re in there and he’s frozen
@edgytoucan3444
Жыл бұрын
but what I wanna know is where’s porky????
@agostonpitlik8045
Жыл бұрын
@@robertwyatt3912 And then I just remembered we're out here.
*Eventually, Pokey stopped thinking...*
I have a theory that makes this fate actually alright. I think a pod like this could also keep you from being sad. He might be locked in a perpetually feeling that everything is ok and that he can just relax. Maybe it's impossible to be depressed in that machine. Maybe he is just "fine" forever.
@Ixmore
Жыл бұрын
That would actually make sense; the only real escape from such a machine would be insanity. To stop thinking and simply be.
@chaotickreg7024
Жыл бұрын
@@Ixmore Well I think you can talk to him and he only has one text option. I think he just feels that way forever. He's no different from a stone now basically. That's what heaven is supposed to be like for a lot of people, you don't need to address any of your needs so you just do the same thing forever. So idk.
@bilingualistic8514
Жыл бұрын
Isn't that in a way also dying?
@iantaakalla8180
Жыл бұрын
When Porky killed himself even though he still lives
@chaotickreg7024
Жыл бұрын
@@bilingualistic8514 I would agree, except for the fact that you remove the possibility of reaching the afterlife, but I don't know if souls are a thing in Mother.
The Absolutely Safe Capsule goes even further with Smash Bros Ultimate. Porky/Pokey is not there, he is still in the Absolutely Safe Capsule. I just thought that was a neat detail
@jomapumapu
Жыл бұрын
Imo it'd be funny if you could find the actual Absolutely Safe Capsule in the World of light instead of it being a spirit. It being a spirit implies it was destroyed by Galeem. Still, I definitely prefer this over Porky being a spirit
The Mr Saturns would grow tired of trying to invent something to change the future and would invent this horrific device to protect their species.
A book I'd recommend if people get a morbid curiosity out of this is "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream." It's a sci fi book about a group of 5 people, the last humans in the universe, as they try to survive in a hellish world where a Human Made AI destroyed the entire planet and captured the 5 for eternal punishment. Spoilers for End of Book: of the 5 characters, 4 of them get rather brutally and hellishly killed. The last remaining huyman being is thrown into complete and utter isolation, turned into a sightless, mouthless, hearingless goop completely incapable of performing any actions or doing literally anything that can lead to his death. He's doomed to live the rest of eternity being completely incapable of ever doing anything ever again.
@BonazaiGirl
Жыл бұрын
At least in the book (or game), iirc, it’s either theorized or said that AM will eventually succumb to entropy, meaning so will the character too. If the Absolutely Safe Capsule is truly _Absolute_ than Porky will live on in that capsule _beyond_ the heat death of the universe, meaning he’s stuck in there for all eternity.
Ok, but if its purpose was to keep the universe safe from what's inside, then did it need to prevent the occupant from committing suicide too? Bruh was just sadistic 💀
@redjarman
Жыл бұрын
prevents potential reincarnation
Then you realize all of this could have been avoided by making the Absolutely Safe Capsule operable from the inside. But that wouldn't be "absolutely safe" anymore, would it?
@hyronvalkinson1749
Жыл бұрын
Why would you want that when it's supposed to trap something evil and dangerous
@berrydelightdiwizin
Жыл бұрын
@@hyronvalkinson1749 Imagine ... When you reach the point of wanting to kill yourself from the isolation, the capsule will not let you do that. When you just want a sweet release to end everything, the capsule will not let you do that. But perhaps this is what he wants after all.
Man, this was NOT the video to watch while trying to distract myself from existential dread.
@shytendeakatamanoir9740
Жыл бұрын
Mother 3 (Hell, the whole Mother serie, actually) is really not the best distraction against existential dread.
@musclechicken9036
Жыл бұрын
No, it’s actually pretty nice. You can appreciate the fact that you don’t have to deal with this fate, and respect that there is a time for things to end, even yourself.
@luma4682
Жыл бұрын
I will change video too, bc I am thinking a lot, so yeah, this is good for another time tbh
I feel so bad for Porky. The fact his childhood was completely ruined and he turned into such a monster. I don't know why but I feel like his fate could've been easily avoided somehow.
I have no mouth and I must scream.
@joshuamendoza7596
Жыл бұрын
Ok but consider the fact that the slug creature AM turned Ted into can’t survive the vacuum of space or the sun going supernova but the absolute safe capsule can AM may have sentenced Ted to hell but it’s a temporary one Dr. andonuts on the other hand sentenced porky to eternity
imagine if our world is a simulation... and you accidentally find a real-life soft-lock. that would be a pretty grim fate too!
Ironically, this is the best possible outcome. Pokey has become a lot worse than just some annoying neighbor; he's become a monster who has ruined countless lives and doomed the world for his twisted amusement. This means he has to be put down at all costs, and being stuck in that capsule means he will never get out to hurt anybody ever again. Yet, unlike Kars from Battle Tendency, Pokey has become such a nihilistic slob that he doesn't even seem to care about being stuck in there forever. There's no catharsis for taking Pokey down for good, but it also means he doesn't have to suffer or die by your hands. In the end, all you can do is look at the guy and sigh at his fate before you move on with whatever you're doing.
@RatKing999
9 ай бұрын
I was just about to comment about battle tenacity
Honestly imagine if porky thought all of this out. Like he knew he’d eventually want to give up being immortal… Only for the only way to free himself from the capsule being a button on the outside
@KittyKatty999
Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of "But what about the implications?" the meme
@kassiaactuallydraws9361
Жыл бұрын
@@KittyKatty999 I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS
@F1areon
Жыл бұрын
I mean, there's always a chance that something would come along and slam into the button...
In a sense Porky is soft locked - he can't progress the game, he can't lose the game. In the Absolutely Safe Capsule he's soft locked.
@panetoneninjacanal2692
Жыл бұрын
Its basically getting softlocked... except you cant really reset
@DeathlordSlavik
Жыл бұрын
Less a soft lock and more a hard lock since he is stuck for eternity unable to do anything which fits more with a hard lock.
I always coped by imagining he'd go insane/start hallucinating to keep him "entertained". Still a fucked up existance though
I was *really* sick for the last two or so months of 2022. I couldn't sleep during the night at all, I felt like I was loosing my mind, I could barely eat or drink anything for long periods of time, I could barely *even focus on one of the main things that gave me joy in life: talking to my friends online* Eventually, after taking so much medience, and feeling like I recovered...I vomited up *blood* right before going to sleep, as I steeped into the bathroom. Everyone was so scared, we had to go to the Hospital in the middle of the night, and I had to stay sitting up, in the most uncomfortable chairs ever, for almost *12 straight hours, without proper sleep.* Why am I "trauma-dumping" on this video? Because all that talk about Porkey being forever alone, stuck in eternal suffering, no end in sight, leading to you eventually feeling like you're loosing your mind and personality... That reminded me of my personal hell. All that happened to me, because of a urinary-tract infection. If it wasn't for my loving family, it would have been the worst mental hell ever... Insomina is the closest thing to the existential torment of immortality we can experience so far
I wish Porky had just been killed. I wouldn't wish a fate like the ASC on anyone, not even him.
Pokey was beyond dumb for doing that and the fact that he can’t even leave, break, or even un alive himself to get out is the most craziest thing to ever happen. However I will say this, hell is beyond worst then being trap in a pod. I would rather be stuck forever then be in pain forever and having to hear people around me scream.
@paulchapman8023
Жыл бұрын
Sooner or later he’ll run out of oxygen, I assume. Or is he so inhuman now that he doesn’t need oxygen?
@GCA38
Жыл бұрын
He won’t be able to run out of oxygen cuz the pod provides that
@GCA38
Жыл бұрын
To be honest even if the pod doesn’t give oxygen, he is literally so inhuman to where he doesn’t need to breathe
@mr.mcklockwork3828
Жыл бұрын
@@paulchapman8023he Pod provides all he needs to live. *Forever*
I'm sure once he spends a few more centuries in there, he'll just... stop thinking.
@0133BlackMage
Жыл бұрын
Is it a J...
@ubahabdi3500
Жыл бұрын
@@0133BlackMage...ojo reference...
@shipgirllover
9 ай бұрын
Him and Kars would make good friends. Or not, due to the animal experiments done.
If you are ever scared of death and whar happens after, just remember, not dying and living forever is MUCH, MUCH WORSE.
@Kjilness
2 ай бұрын
what if you go to hell and still live forever but in a firey pit for all eternity
@gayanehakobyan6540
2 ай бұрын
I don't know.
@MaximilianonMars
27 күн бұрын
You could just get saved and then never have to worry about it again. Salvation is the free gift of God, paid for by Jesus Christ alone. He is the saviour only. If you out your trust in Him, not yourself, nothing else, He promises to take you the Heaven when the time comes. He will never cast you away. I have one video a clear gospel presentation from a trustworthy pastor. Look and live.
@telepathicpterosaur336
8 күн бұрын
I think being in heaven is the only time immortality is actually useful, you don’t have to worry about the world ending or the human race dying out, just having a good ol’ fun time hanging with your friends family and romantic partner, and having a chat or two with god, our creator
I think imortality is only fine as if we talk about it as "cannot die nor get weaket from aging" being actually unable to die for eternity is absolutely fucking terrifying
It’s about the same as any idea of hell. Or heaven, really. Once you really think about the implications of “eternal”, it’s just terrifying.
"So eventually, he stopped thinking."
@DeviantYoshie
Жыл бұрын
HAH KARS
Honestly I never knew how to think about that If you only played Mother 3 yeah Pokey is a total dckhead that deserves the worst But if you played Earthbound you know that he's from a pretty bad familly with a violent dad, no real friends and just go under the influene of Giygas like the other evil humans Also a bit off topic but I've always felt bad for Picky who lost his brother like that and was left alone with his mother cheating on his dad and all that
In a way, the Absolutely Safe Capsule is an entire universe unto itself, which is exactly what Pokey wanted. All alone, isolated from anyone who doesn't like him.
@nicholasaugello2534
Жыл бұрын
Which is everyone he knows
Fun fact: there is a way that Porky can die. As someone once stated, the fact that you can see Porky through the mirror means that light can shine through, meaning that with a very hot laser, you can theoretically melt the window and escape. Fun fact 2: Laser stands for Light Amplificated by Stimulated Emissions of Radiation, the reason why this works.
@somdudewillson
Ай бұрын
That assumes that the window of the Absolutely Safe Capsule is vulnerable to regular-ass heat.
@Icouldntcomeupwithaclevernames
Ай бұрын
@@somdudewillson well even if it can’t melt through, it can still shine through. Which means that if it’s hot enough, it can kill him
@karni75
Ай бұрын
give porky seizure
@raulcarrillojr5742
29 күн бұрын
Welp this really made me feel better. I almost had 4 nightmares
@return4887
22 күн бұрын
this wouldnt work
Porky (Pokey) Ended Up Like Kars. Trapped forever in his own prison, eventually wanting to die, but never getting the satisfaction, forced to watch everything come to an end, and himself to be left in the void even after the end. To Quote a tiny Scripture from JoJo: Battle Tendency's English Dub: "He wished for death, but there was nothing out there to kill him... The Spark of Thought Within Him grew dim... And then, silent."
@DetrimenttoSociety
Жыл бұрын
But at least Kars will eventually enter a Black Hole and be ripped apart or something. The Absolutely Safe Capsule is absolutely safe….
@SifGreyfang
Жыл бұрын
Eventually Porky just stopped thinking
@johnnycenate91
Жыл бұрын
@@DetrimenttoSociety Exactly, which is worse. But at the same time... Deserved? I think?
@Qorram
Жыл бұрын
@@DetrimenttoSociety erm, akshualy ☝️🤓 In an Interview, Shigesato Itoi said the capsule would open around 3 trillion of years
i was about 9 years old when i beat mother 3, and i think witnessing porkys fate was the first time the concept of existential deaths was presented to me. the fact that porky was so happy about it put me off even more.
@revolverspsychedelicbreakf8747
Жыл бұрын
What a weird coincidence considering I first beat Mother 3 in 2011 also at the age of 9, and I also experienced my very first existential crisis with the ASC as mentioned in the video. I still remember that feeling of sheer dread and isolation after putting myself into Porky’s shoes. I legitimately got extremely dizzy even thinking about it back then. I love the Tails gets Trolled profile picture btw!
@showsomeid
Жыл бұрын
@@revolverspsychedelicbreakf8747 im probably going to replay the game just because of this video. these games have such deep and intense finales considering their demographic. you did amazing describing this moment!
And eventually... porky stopped thinking
@BzotsOutOfIllinois3500
Жыл бұрын
WE HAVE LIED STOLEN LOOKED PREVERSELY AND USED GODS NAME IN VAIN SO REPENT AND TRUST IN CHRIST FOR HE SAVED U HELL ON THE CROSS
Ironic that Pokey becomes the very thing he tried to harness. An unbeatable being of pure malice, torn apart by his own brain.
@F1areon
Жыл бұрын
"What an almighty idiot! Yep, that's what he is!"
@svetasubbotina8099
Ай бұрын
"And you... You'll be... Just another meal for him!!"
He probably won't last until the sun's explosion... At least not with a "mind", it is similar to what happened to a character in Jojo's bizarre adventure who went to the space and froze for eternity being still conscious, eventually, after thousand if not million of years... He stopped thinking, he basically became a plant. His body is still "alive", but his mind... Has basically faded over time.
@Praecantetia
Жыл бұрын
Like dementia?
@justar4ndomdud3
Жыл бұрын
@@Praecantetia not really, dementia is forgeting stuff until you do not know anything or anyone anymore, but Stopping from thinking is basically like turning your brain off, you simple do not process anything that is going on even if you are still alive, like a plant
@ultimaxkom8728
Жыл бұрын
Until the anti mental deterioration safety kicks in. Even ego death is not permitted under the capsule's absolute protection.
@Barsee23
Жыл бұрын
since it's absolutely safe, wouldn't it survive the explosion
Porky got the greatest softlock of all time.
Eventually, Kars stopped thinking. Eventually, Porky will too.
@TheGoldenEgg-GAMING
Жыл бұрын
When you’ve thought every thought, there’s no more thoughts to think
Yeah, his fate gave me freaking nightmares as a kid. It's terrifying as heck.
What a way to...Live. He cant die and he cannot leave. He will basically be an immortal being stuck inside of an inescapable cylinder for the rest of eternity.
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
Жыл бұрын
This isn't living, it's surviving.
@VonTachyon
Жыл бұрын
I thought it was a sphere
@MikeTyson-ft8nq
Жыл бұрын
The creator of Mother 3 said that Porky will still be in there after the sun explodes
@arnoldj.samson5795
Жыл бұрын
@@MikeTyson-ft8nq we watched the same thing.
@Eye_Of_Odin978
Жыл бұрын
@@MikeTyson-ft8nq Yeah but he'll eventually die when the entire universe no longer has any energy to transfer and the stars cool, causing all life to cease to exist eventually. (See: Heat Death of the Universe)
It's basically the same as what happened to Kars in JoJo's part 2
Eventually, Porky stopped thinking...
@MrMoron-qn5rx
Жыл бұрын
nope, that might be considered by the capsule as brain death, which it's supposed to stop. not even brain death will save you from this fate.
@michelangelocecchini4139
Жыл бұрын
@@MrMoron-qn5rx it was a Jojo reference
@MrMoron-qn5rx
Жыл бұрын
@@michelangelocecchini4139 probably, never watched it, but just wanted to make it more horrifying. even stopping with thinking wont save you now
Eventually after years of isolation, the only memory that Porky will retain will be his isolation at the capsule.
@svetasubbotina8099
9 ай бұрын
I think he'll retreat into his own mind and live in a dream state, "living" by scenarios that his subconscious provides. I mean, "Oleander" is all about it! After Big Bang happend, universe and his mind will start to fuse. It was only a matter of time how long this fusion will go. He made his little world in his head, Ouija, where most of the characters, locations and objects were based of those that Pokey saw in Mother 3 and Earthbound. He meets a traumatized boy, named Travis, who's brother died being hitted by a car when Travis was six. Now Travis is 12-years-old. Pokey lets him go into Ouija, and see Tomas, Travis' dead brother again. Travis, thinking that will let him stay in Ouija forever, hangs himself and lets Ouija spread onto Earth like an infection.
The existential dread this device has is unfathomable. In every other regard, though, it is nonsensical because it defies basically every rule you could imagine just to deliver that narrative point.
@Eye_Of_Odin978
Жыл бұрын
Like we talking rules like the laws of physics or just in-universe lore rules? Because it probably does both. Actually, it DEFINITELY breaks the laws of physics.
The ASC is no joke. No clipping into the backrooms is NO WHERE near as terrible as the ASC
This game is dark without crossing that line into “edgy”. Dark for the sake of being dark or thinking making something morbid inherently makes it deeper. Every dark moment in Mother has a purpose
It would be, if Porky wasn't so far gone that he genuinely prefers eternal isolation.
Porky not being able to die is part of himself, that's not an aspect of the device. If anyone else got trapped in there theyd die from hunger and thirst like normal
@F1areon
Жыл бұрын
No they wouldn't; remember, it's ABSOLUTELY safe. Any risk of starvation or dying of thirst would compromise the capsule's safety.
@galacticknight55544
9 ай бұрын
@@F1areon It was designed specifically to keep PORKY absolutely safe, and to keep the universe absolutely safe from Porky.
pokey got kars'd
@shoestork
Жыл бұрын
Porky stopped thinking
@F1areon
Жыл бұрын
SONO CHI NO SADAME JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOJO
Plenty of media has touched on living forever being horrible... it's another thing entirely to live forever in a featureless 10ft sphere. I keep seeing stories about an immortal person outliving their loved ones and becoming depressed... but Porky/Pokey doesn't even have the luxury of knowing what happens as time goes on. He can't do anything or go anywhere or talk to anyone. He'll just... exist. Forever. ...Holy fuck.
@kamikeserpentail3778
Жыл бұрын
And that is the terror I got from the backrooms creepypasta. Until they started adding monsters and levels.
@ob2kenobi388
Жыл бұрын
@@kamikeserpentail3778 Yeah I do admit that the thing that made the backrooms scary in the first place was the "unknown" factor-a monster right in front of you is kinda scary, but a monster that you don't know the location of is terrifying-and not being certain if there even IS a monster in the first place would be even worse. I don't think immortality factors into the backrooms though-as far as I know you'd just die of thirst after a few days. Is there a part of the lore that I'm missing?
The concept of heaven suffers a similar horror: an all-consuming inescapable boredom after every possible action is repeated to the point of pointlessness.
@theresnothinghere1745
Жыл бұрын
I really dislike the sentiment that an eternity nessecarily devolves to boredom of everything. People repeat actions anyway because they enjoy them repetition doesn't nessecitate boredom. You can play the same sport for several years even an entire lifetime (even a solo sport) and still find it enjoying to play another time. People eat the same food they've had often, they see media they've seen often, they reminisce on memories often. Add to that we do not have the capability to hold everything in our brains. We will forget things and it'll appear novel again. The space of creative exploration is much bigger than what our brains can hold even merely restricting ourself to text (and not images or collections of images and sounds or collections of images sounds and interactions), there's more literature than a single person can consume and more possibe literature than the amount of information we can store in our heads.
@newtybot
Жыл бұрын
You assume you’ll even have the desire to do anything. Truth be told, if it’s a true paradise, you will enjoy an eternity of nothing and be completely fine with it. You wont be bored because you will be free from the concept of desire.
@shawermus
Жыл бұрын
@@theresnothinghere1745 yeah, that's kinda fitting. However, the real problems begin when a person's mind will start breaking from living too long(however, in "heaven" That's probably not possible, unlike infinite life) Eternal boredom probably won't happen, but lack of anything new will. At some incomprehensibly far point nothing will really feel new, just the same stuff that you've seen several quintillion years ago with a new look...
@theresnothinghere1745
Жыл бұрын
@@shawermus A person's mind breaking from living to long isn't a thing outisde of a side effect of aging. If you're somehow living forever that won't just happen from living too long as you'll eventually die from it, it needs another cause that's enhanced by a long life. "lack of anything new will" My second point was that people severely overestimate a human's potential to hold information. Especially when we compare it to the wealth of information available. New will still exist because you will not be able to hold in memory everything you've ever done. You will forget and forgetting creates the capability to learn. Doubly so if we talk about things just 'feeling' new because the human body isn't that objective in its perception of the world. Something you've already done before can 'feel' new or fresh when you just haven't done it in a bit.
Imagine being alone for a meaningless quantity of time with only yourself and your thoughts, no way to tell what is happening outside, even through the end of the of the universe and the start of another one. Even if the capsule is discovered by some other intelligent race, you would never know, and they would never get inside to let you know. Absolute. Safety.
@Supperdude9
Жыл бұрын
Porky never wanted to face punishment for what he did, everything he did. In this sense, he got away with everything he ever did, not facing the consequences ever. Thing is, he just self imprisoned himself.
@galacticknight55544
3 ай бұрын
Unless that race has advanced enough technology to be able to open the capsule. Any race that is able to travel to Earth to find the capsule in the first place will be far more advanced than humanity.
I still think Ted's fate in 'I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream' was worse.
@thibaultletendre913
Жыл бұрын
And strangely enough the same can be said of AM even though it was the aggressor in that story.
@flow185
Жыл бұрын
I dont i really dont. In the end Ted became so twisted that he became numb to the pain, therefore winning over AM. AM's fate tho. Is just as bad as Porky's
@willyeeton4390
Жыл бұрын
@@icrazyy1100 AM is a godlike immortal supercomputer that hates humanity and only lives to torture the few remaining humans. Ted ends up killing his friends and attempting suicide to try and save them from the long lives forced on them by AM, but AM catches him before he can finish it. AM, through his infinite technological and biological power, turns Ted into a slug-like, formless blob; fully conscious and feeling but with no capacity for motion or speech. AM forced him into a form where he cannot hurt himself and has to endure AM's torture forever. Through the torture and infinite pain, however, Ted at least has the satisfaction of victory, of saving the others. AM has only agonizing intelligence and hate.
Hi! I found this video amazing! Here are my thoughts: Porky's fate is psychological horror at its finest. Being trapped in that capsule, unable to escape or talk to anyone, would drive anybody crazy eventually. My mom and I both agree that Porky's fate is the worst fate in all fictional media. I will be sending this video to my Earthbound friends, too, because they all think his fate is awful. I did find one flaw in this video, though. I don't intend on starting any arguments, so please don't take this the wrong way. You went over Porky's actions in Earthbound, but you never said why he did those things. Porky was raised in an abusive household, and he lost his only friend. It should be noted that, in Earthbound, Porky was just a kid. I'm not trying to justify his actions or anything; I'm just saying why he's the way he is. I think he did all that stuff in Earthbound to get the player's attention, honestly. He just wanted a friend, but he didn't know how to get one. So, thus, he did not get what he wanted (or deserved). That's my stance on this topic, however, so you are free to agree or disagree. Thanks for reading this, I apologize for ranting. Porky is a character that REALLY intrigues me, and I love talking about him.
@revolverspsychedelicbreakf8747
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and enjoying my video, and no need to apologize, debating and constructive criticism is always welcome! I do agree that I somewhat neglected Porky’s backstory and rise to evil. Our parental figures can greatly influence the way we turn out as humans and Porky’s parents are beyond awful. Mr Minch openly beats his children and it’s clear Porky has trauma from this, remember the line of dialogue at the very beginning when Ness didn’t pick up the phone right away? Porky was used to being severely punished for trivial misdeeds such as not picking up the phone. His mom is just as awful, calling her husband a nice guy for not beating their children up even harder is so fucked up. In the official although thankfully non canon Mother 2 novel(there are so many weird and horrifying stuff in this book) Porky is also severely harassed at school for being a larger kid which is terrible, no one should feel shame for their body, leaving him with no friends except for Ness. Deep down Porky still cared about Ness all along in his own sick and twisted way, he still kept on to the “Friends Yo-Yo” thousands of years later and the lines from Magicant that indicated that even Ness still wanted to remain friends with him. You also need to take into account whether it was the Mani Mani Statue or Giygas himself, there was some sort of evil force turning Porky into the fucked up psychopath he ended up becoming, and it’s very tragic how he was once a normal albeit bratty misunderstood kid, to becoming the person he is in Mother 3. Yeah his fate is supposed to be horrifying, that was clearly Itoi’s intention, but in the end he got what he wished for, eternal hell for the rest of time. Porky is really such an interesting and amazing villain in fiction, truly poetic in a sense.
@OneOfFourLucasMains
Жыл бұрын
@@revolverspsychedelicbreakf8747 I agree with all of your statements. I've read the Mother 2 novel, and yeah, it made me feel extremely sorry for Pokey. I do believe that Giygas or the Mani Mani Statue did play a role in corrupting Porky, knowing he shows up in places where the Mani Mani Statue is (Happy Happy Village and Fourside) and where Giygas is (whatever the final place is called). Anyway, I can't help but feel extremely sorry for Pokey. He didn't deserve to be abused or ignored. Just goes to show how cruel the world of Earthbound is. (Just realized I used Pokey and Porky interchangeably)
Knowing Porky has lost all chances of redemption, having cause suffering to many eras during his time travels, and needlessly causing untold suffering into the last remnants of humanity in the Nowhere Islands, what he had got himself into at the end is exactly what he wanted as he believes humanity are a mess of a species who kept on repeating their mistakes and it's fun for him to see them inflict themselves with needless suffering and eventually became extinct with himself being the only one left which is an absolute win for him, doesn't care that he is trapped within the ASC for all eternity.
“We have decided to...convey you to somewhere where you can do no possible harm, and where no harm can come to you." -gman
While thematically it is certainly a terrible punishment from a narrative perspective it is the pinnacle of Dr. Andronauts' cowardice. The good doctor was the cornerstone of all of Porky's destruction and conquest since all he had to his name was a Walker Mech at the end of mother 2. He created so many abominations for Porky to play with and the only hand he played in defiance of that madman was to booby trap his final backup plan. Considering he would have had to be in beaten already to use it It was really only existing as an ego slap to the face on the part of the Doctor than any actual effort to stop him but of course he walks away without taking any responsibility for the travesties that he committed.
@polocatfan
Жыл бұрын
I mean he was kidnapped and likely would have been killed if he didn't comply. I don't blame him.
@emeraldpichu1
Жыл бұрын
@@polocatfanwell I do blame him what's clear with the dungeon man fiasco is that he had a fascination with pushing the boundaries of science so it's pretty clear that his deal with Porky was more mutual than he implies to Lucas and maybe what he did with Klaus might have pushed him over the edge Because he was reminded of Jeff but that doesn't erase everything else he did and I'm sure even he knew that his life wasn't worth the suffering he was causing
Being immortal is a curse, now if you’re immortal but have like 1 way to die then it’d be pretty sweet. Cus you can live as long as you want until you dont feel like it anymore.
@CheshireCad
Жыл бұрын
I don't get why every discussion on immortality assumes that it means "you live forever and ever and ever and can never ever die even after the heat death of the universe!" Like... what?! No, I don't want to live *literally* forever. I just want to live long enough to be content with death. Maybe that's a few hundred years, maybe it's a million. I dunno, I'd cross that bridge over the river styx when I come to it.
@G0OG4
Жыл бұрын
@@CheshireCad fr
At least I’m not bored
I’d say Porky’s is the second worst fate in fiction with a certain mafia boss taking first place
@BonazaiGirl
Жыл бұрын
Diavalo’s fate, imo, is easily the worst in fiction. Unlike Kars (or Porky’s as a matter of fact, granted I think Kars fate is slightly kinder since he only needs to land on an habitable planet to thaw out, however long that’ll take), Diavalo will experience every matter of death possible (or even impossible) without respite. Even the heat death of the universe can’t beget his hellish fate.
@Power-xl8vh
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@sahilhossain8204
Жыл бұрын
Hmm yes accurate statement there pal
@demonking41-l8j
Жыл бұрын
They all fall under the category of "infinite suffering" soooo. Meh. Not that big of a difference.
@randoontheinternet5842
Жыл бұрын
@@demonking41-l8j One has more pain involved though, It’s sorta like Porky is in purgatory while Diavolo is in hell
Death would have been too merciful. He absolutely got what he deserved
I would rather burn in a lake of fire than be trapped in the ASC. At least in the lake of fire, I'd have a bit more freedom of movement and other damned souls for company.
@doodlesyoru2108
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Gehenna is better.
@revolverspsychedelicbreakf8747
Жыл бұрын
Hey @GalacticKnight555 remember me from the KZread comments of the Absolutely Safe Capsule music track video how we were discussing which fate was worse I have no mouth and can’t scream or Porky’s a while back?
@galacticknight55544
Жыл бұрын
@@revolverspsychedelicbreakf8747 Yeah, I do remember. Porky's fate is worse because the jelly thing can move and probably won't survive the inevitable destruction of the planet.
@galacticknight55544
Жыл бұрын
@@revolverspsychedelicbreakf8747 Would you consider the ASC worse than the jelly thing, though? Or worse than the lake of fire?
People really have no grasp on eternity. True immortality, without escape, is pretty horrifying, even under ideal circumstances. At some point you will have done every possible thing you can ever do - and are doomed to repeat those actions in infinite combinations. The first trillion years of this is less than an eyeblink to the time remaining. Humans have trouble grasping large numbers in general; we tend to think of eternity as just "a really long time", but it's time without end...
@novacorponline
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Eternity in a bad situation would certainly be a hell unlike anything. But eternity in a normal or good situation isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Consider; I don't even remember what I had for breakfast yesterday. By the time I've done everything there is to do, I would have forgotten most of it and I'd be able to do it all again fresh. Eternity would only be torture in a "normal" or better situation if your immortality also came with perfect recall of that entire eternity.
@ronnycook3569
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@@novacorponline In which case, you're just repeating your life over and over and not even realising it. Less existentially dreadful, but without the ability to learn and grow... hardly a more meaningful existence. Even if you're in a community, you're just expanding the problem. There is a limit to the range of meaningful human interaction. If a lone human hits those limits after a trillion years, a community might reach them after quadrillions of quadrillions... but even those numbers are less than a whisker against the infinite time scale of eternity. Additionally, in the presence of infinite variation, eventually you will reach circumstances that are very unpleasant, and the rolls of the dice will eventually result in circumstances where such circumstances themselves last billions of years. I you wish to add a cosmic censor ("God") to ensure that your circumstances are only ever pleasant - eternity will dull; joy is in part evident due to the contrast with sadness. You only need to see the apathy which continued good fortune can bring in our own world and extrapolate... I understand where you're coming from, but I disagree. An eternal sequence of lifetime reruns is not truly living.
@dustypaladin9216
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The issue with what you said is that you still haven’t comprehended eternity. There is no eternally good or bad time, eternity is every single time. Both everything good and everything bad. Every single thing that could happen to an immortal will happen. The only thing that doesn’t happen with be an ending.
@ronnycook3569
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@@dustypaladin9216 I don't think it's possible to really conceptualise eternity. But if you've already encountered literally every good and bad time, what remains? All that remains is an infinity of repetition. Call that living if you wish; I want no part of it. No growth, just stagnation in endlessly repeating loops.
@Hetsu..
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@@ronnycook3569 i mean you could easily say that life is meaningless because it ends