David Dardick could have invented a belt-fed revolver but the world wasn't ready for that

@Just_AnotherPlayer

3 жыл бұрын

Haha auto belt fed revolver go brrrrrrrrrrr

@dennisyoung4631

2 жыл бұрын

“Revolver-Cannons. *Belt-Fed Revolver-Cannons.”* Sam had a pair of these, and he was fond of warming them up…

@stev3548

2 жыл бұрын

He did actually. The point of the tround system was to be an aircraft belt fed gun, the handgun was just to raise capital

@greycatturtle7132

2 жыл бұрын

Ye

@livingcorpse5664

Жыл бұрын

@@stev3548 He also worked on the H&R SPIW which was pretty much a belt-fed assault rifle with a similar revolver cylinder to this gun. And yes it used it's own version of Trounds as ammo.

Ian:" and he called them......" Me: don't, please don't Ian: "Trounds" Me: Goddammit

@fatihmehmetcevik7299

Жыл бұрын

Goddammit

@silence___

Жыл бұрын

Goddammit

@cody45

Жыл бұрын

Goddammit

@Maximus6G

Жыл бұрын

Goddammit

@publicdomain4890

Жыл бұрын

Goddammit

"I know what you're thinking, 'Did he fire fifteen trounds, or only fourteen?'"

@quanchi3373

4 жыл бұрын

" I tink 'twas tree fiddy"

@rRefuseToSelfCensor

4 жыл бұрын

U feeling lucky punk

@nt-hd5fo

3 жыл бұрын

He says shots not rounds... So the trounds dirty harry joke wasn't as clever as u thought.

@Aliyah_666

3 жыл бұрын

@@nt-hd5fo this make you feel special....huh did it..you feel all smart and shit huh...mook 😒

@xXx_T0M_xXx

3 жыл бұрын

This comment is severely underrated.

”THE TROUNDS ARE NESTING” sounds like something someone would say in a weird sci-fi movie

@secretbaguette

3 жыл бұрын

That's an entire plot device, copywrite that schmitt or something.

@EchosTackyTiki

3 жыл бұрын

I think I saw that happen on the Discovery Channel once...

@kakalimukherjee3297

2 жыл бұрын

A few moments later some slimy disgusting man eating aliens crawl out of slimy, soft translucent eggs.

@aquariandawn4750

2 жыл бұрын

You dare mock the proud Trounds?!?

@oktayyildirim2911

2 жыл бұрын

@@secretbaguette *copyright

Friday. "flintlock machine gun" Tuesday. "magazine fed revolver"

@Taistelukalkkuna

4 жыл бұрын

And Webley semi-automatic revolver. Where is this gun world going? =)P

@Igor_lvanov

4 жыл бұрын

The next should be belt-fed bolt action rifle

@DissedRedEngie

4 жыл бұрын

what next, a three round bullpup anti-tank rifle feeding from a helical magazine?

@curiousentertainment3008

4 жыл бұрын

A Very Disappointed Red Engineer I’d want to see a weapon like that.

@kabob0077

4 жыл бұрын

@@DissedRedEngie That sounds like something from a Cyberpunk or even Dieselpunk story.

So the 'Forgotten Weapons' logo was a real gun after all.

@mrb692

4 жыл бұрын

Mossy500A Pretty sure it was the OSS Flying Dragon: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d2SGmqiBoKq3mdY.html

@Baby4HeadAutographer

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrb692 I just googled the flying dragon and noticed that the daily stormer did an article about it using Ian's video. I wonder if he knows...?

@BigShaneGillis

4 жыл бұрын

The logo is not a Dardick

@user-qd8vq4dy1t

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrb692 yeah the look the same

@Face2theScr33n

4 жыл бұрын

@@Baby4HeadAutographer No, Ian was in Seattle then.

This is amazing. You get many of the mechanical failures possible in a revolver, while still getting some of the failures possible in an autolader. You can't swap the magazine, and you can't reload with moon clips or speedloaders.

@valiantviktor

9 ай бұрын

The worst of both worlds! What a pistol.

@jmjedi923

6 ай бұрын

i would thumb up this comment, but its appropriately at 357 so i can't

@CranialMalfunction

6 ай бұрын

​@Pidalin I am surprised that this gun wasn't featured in Fallout 4...

@85blutch

3 ай бұрын

Would it be possible to develop a stripper clip to have a faster reload? Like the C96? Although with the triangular rounds it would probably be a real pain to use...

@daviddiggens8841

Ай бұрын

​@@CranialMalfunctionI have good news for you. There's a mod for this very gun

This feels like a borderlands weapon, even the round being called tround.

@afhostie

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of the revolver in bioshock actually

@H2ORaccoon

4 жыл бұрын

It looks like a Torgue gun with a Jakobs barrel and grip lol

@linkthesloth2867

4 жыл бұрын

It looks like the drang from destiny 2

@nikolaivanovski9426

4 жыл бұрын

@@linkthesloth2867 it is the drang from destiny 2

@charolettebacon6740

3 жыл бұрын

If it took more than one tround you weren't using a dardick

The Dardick - For when you can't decide between an auto pistol or a revolver and want the disadvantages of both!

@karlasmith

4 жыл бұрын

RavingRaptor plus a non removable magazine!

@ianbruene1529

4 жыл бұрын

@@karlasmith What it really needs is a stripper clip slot and a magazine disconnect.

@emberfist8347

4 жыл бұрын

The Dardick- because you watched too much Buck Rogers as a kid.

@cdgonepotatoes4219

4 жыл бұрын

Well, the action is all controlled by the trigger so no need for a spring swap to cycle, and there's no exposed cylinder gap meaning holding it poorly won't result in cut fingers (though it's quite hard to do if you consider the thing's quite sizeable). Say "it has some of the positives of both mechanisms but this goes at a great cost in other aspects"

@89thaharmaiiioptreshenanig3

4 жыл бұрын

Ian Bruene that’s what the M14 has

It sounded like Ian died a little when he said, "tround."

@m.b.82

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I died a bit when I saw him die a bit. Pretty bad.

@phillylove7290

4 жыл бұрын

Tround is really the dumbest idea imaginable as explained by Ian. Ian sure doesnt understand geometry as much he does guns. Its not a "triangle" design cartridge, its a circular bullet with a triangle encasing. The Trounds triangle design does not save space, it just uses the empty space which is completely pointless. Because its restricted by the circular projectile. For getting as much mass as possible a triangle (thus a square or rectangle) is best for fitting within a magazine, but for encasing a circular bullet obviously a cylinder uses the least space. If you wanted to save space from the Tround you would cut the 3 corners making a cylinder. If the entire cartridge meaning even the slug and primer where triangular then it would save space. But since the bullet is circular then a circle is the smallest size geometry to encase the cartridge. A triangles add mass and certainly doesnt save space. I am boggled this idea made it this far......

@phillylove7290

4 жыл бұрын

The entire premise of "The Tround" can be proven wrong by the circle, triangle, and square baby toy where they drop the pieces thru the correct slot. I am really boggled nobody in the design team, engineering team, marketing team, product line and just friends/family never understood super simple geometry a pretty long list of animals like crows, dolphins, and monkeys can figure out.

@CocoTehQuila

4 жыл бұрын

@@phillylove7290 the cross section is a Reuleaux triangle, which means it keeps the same width wherever you measure

@phillylove7290

4 жыл бұрын

@@CocoTehQuila Yes which makes the design even worse....

The design of the packaging and graphics are shockingly modern. You wouldn't even know this thing came from the 50s judging by that box. Truly ahead of its time lmao

@ps3andrhcp

6 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. The box looks super modern. I thought it was some weird gunsmith from a few years ago or something.

@TemperedMedia

5 ай бұрын

Agreed, I quite like it. The packaging, that is. The gun is horrible. 😅😂

I swear to god this is like a bioshock revolver upgraded with increased capacity brought to life.

@Logan-zp8bi

3 жыл бұрын

That's what it reminded me of, I absolutely loved the guns in bioshock. It was a mixture of primitive and futuristic. Only game where I actually used every weapon equally and put out the extra effort to get the upgrades.

@StupidIsMyJob

7 ай бұрын

Reminds me more of how revolvers in Borderlands can have more than their normal number of shots because reasons, personally. I'd say I get where you're coming from, but I thought the revolver in Bioshock got a second cylinder, iirc.

@bruhman5829

7 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@StupidIsMyJobIn Bioshock 1, it’s just as you say. In Bioshock 2, the extra ammo upgrade for the pistol takes the form of a goofy ahh rectangular box extending at a 45° angle from the cylinder. It looks exactly as insane as it sounds.

It's like the rotary engine of guns.

@heinzpeter644

4 жыл бұрын

The trounds Remind me more of a wankel engine

@JRockySchmidt

4 жыл бұрын

way better? more horsepower? or more points of failure?

@AakeTraak

4 жыл бұрын

@@JRockySchmidt More points of falure? It thought it has fewer moving parts.

@littlebuddyoutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Ending up being a commercial flop and only liked by specific enthusiasts?

@JRockySchmidt

4 жыл бұрын

@@AakeTraak less moving parts but a need for tighter tolerances

7:20 accidentally showing another problem with this design - you can easily load the cartridges backwards

@codyopperman5930

4 жыл бұрын

He got confused. I don't blame him.

@aiayou

4 жыл бұрын

@@codyopperman5930 I'm quite sure he did it on purpose for safety reasons.

@janirossi9142

4 жыл бұрын

I too am sure it was a safety thing, playing with live rounds with a weird gun when making a video is a bad idea.

@chopinbloc

4 жыл бұрын

@@aiayou That's what I was thinking. I'd imagine the first thing a guy might want to do on acquiring one is to make up some 3D printed dummy rounds.

@jackmcslay

4 жыл бұрын

@@aiayou Loading live rounds into a chamber in any orientation is unsafe. Fortunately this gun makes it impossible for a round to be chambered with the latch open save for shoving the round directly into the cylinder side so the demonstration is pretty safe. See how the follower is out of the magazine entirely when the latch opens, and how Ian avoids pushing the round too far in? The way this gun is designed basically requires you to load the magazine and close the latch before a round can be chambered, and the rounds only stay there after they catch the tab on the left side

Sees title - “ man that’s the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard of” 5minutes later - “ WOW! What a ingenious piece of engineering!”

4:10 Okay, I'm adding "Celanese Fortiflex" to my list of "silly names to use in my D&D games". That the sort of name that demands a nice hat, and a grand mustache!

@puaka

4 жыл бұрын

@Roderick storey the overweight rogue that makes up the lack in her sublety in being ... flexible.

@RRVCrinale

4 жыл бұрын

My friends like plenty of gunplay in their D&D eras. That might as well be the name of an elfin polymer they use in an early wondernine.

@ZGryphon

3 жыл бұрын

A similar name selection process, cued by a spam email from a Mexican pharmacy, led to the creation of Dr. Zazox Wazoxazole, alien mad scientist.

@KickyFut

3 жыл бұрын

It sounds like some complicated exercise machine... Prolly has lots of cables and straps!

@samsowden

3 жыл бұрын

That... Sounds like Ian...

I love the very 50's atompunk look of the whole thing. From the style of the revolver looking like some space blaster to the color of the box, the styling of the logo, and the styling of the ammo box.

@midgetman4206

4 жыл бұрын

it was made from that time, it was the look

@Diesel257

4 жыл бұрын

If you haven't already, check out the Whitney Wolverine.

@LonelySpaceDetective

4 жыл бұрын

This would fit perfectly in a Fallout game.

@drivanradosivic1357

3 жыл бұрын

the Maxim Silverman, Whitney Wolverine and the Dardick would fit nicely in a Atom Punk world, or game like Fallout. edit: the MPL, A Luty's SMG and the M2/Ingram model 6 would also work as early game guns.

@samsowden

3 жыл бұрын

The box is *wonderful*.

Ian McCollum: Unicorn Hunter

@m.b.82

4 жыл бұрын

@@SpeedRacer-pz9jn Unicorn fondler

@Animotion3D

3 жыл бұрын

@@m.b.82 what

Has anyone here notice the shape of the "Trounds", look exactly like the pencil grips from the late 90's?

@PandoraSystem

2 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing they're "triangles" of constant width. It's an easily-defined (mathematically speaking) shape that behaves like a triangle for some purposes, but has rounded edges that won't dig into your fingers if it's a pencil or jam in the magazine if it's a tround.

@THESLlCK

2 жыл бұрын

@@PandoraSystem like a wankel motor

honestly, the outside of that box alone is artistic enough to be interesting.

@ParaFox404

2 жыл бұрын

I love their logo its so cute

This is amazing, to see one of these; I read a Sci-fi novel where the hero had a "Darrick." He later met an gunsmith who called it by the correct name, and he described it as a "revolving automatic, or an automatic revolver, a handy thing for mystery novelists who can't tell the difference." The book is called "Tom Paine Maru."

@manuelferreira4345

8 ай бұрын

Thanks i like to read

When you get shot with this thing, you get *trounced.*

@Spazzycat14

4 жыл бұрын

You are ducked if you get shot with the dardick.

@moehoward01

4 жыл бұрын

Ba-dump-bump....

@Sipex6484

4 жыл бұрын

That joke was extremely funny

@Adam-qv2bd

4 жыл бұрын

Trounded

@isaiahcampbell488

4 жыл бұрын

This had me down on the tround laughing.

words i never thought i would see together, "magazine-fed revolver"

Never thought they’d make the simpsons magazine fed revolver a real thing

@farhanrizkiahnafa7404

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, The Simpsons "predicted" the mag fed revolver thing (lol jk).

@manuelferreira4345

8 ай бұрын

​@@farhanrizkiahnafa7404mag revolver invented the Simpsons?

@cocacola4blood365

7 ай бұрын

@@manuelferreira4345 Chicken and the Egg? Or the man and the Butterfly, who is dreaming who?

The Dardick Trounds were actually used in Navy testing. I've got a dummy loaded .50 Cal tround.

@samiamrg7

4 жыл бұрын

How’d they do?

@trit2580

3 жыл бұрын

@@samiamrg7 I mean we've been using 50 BMG nonstop for 100 years

@psychonaut5921

2 жыл бұрын

You're right. I remember seeing an article many years ago with some designs for a machine gun based on belt-fed trounds. I think it was on Guns magazine, around mid-80's. At the time I thought this was how guns would work in the future...

Flash Gordon’s slug thrower to go with his ray gun.

@markchatman9583

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking Buck Rogers, in the 21st century of course

@deonmurphy6383

4 жыл бұрын

Mark Chatman Buck Rogers works also.

@tenchraven

4 жыл бұрын

Sure! When the other guys have shield belts, it's time for the Dardick! Which sounds really dirty. :P

There's a video on KZread of a machine gun using this feed system, and let me tell you, it's much more effective as a machine gun than a revolver.

@MrTheta-lc8zy

3 жыл бұрын

What’s that video called?

@the_real_Kurt_Yarish

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrTheta-lc8zy -I don't recall, it was a long time ago.- Scratch that, I was able to find two separate videos showing off the system: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f4ickqeGcaufaaQ.html , and kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYhtpapmdcuTfbA.html . They are both seemingly ripped off of low quality VHS recordings, but there's enough to get a good idea of how they function.

@MrTheta-lc8zy

3 жыл бұрын

@@the_real_Kurt_Yarish awesome! thanks!

@the_real_Kurt_Yarish

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrTheta-lc8zy Glad to help!

@THESLlCK

2 жыл бұрын

@@the_real_Kurt_Yarish real one alert

I picked up a tround for one of these about 10 plus years ago for my cartridge collection, it is one of those things you take a look at and seriously wonder how no one said in a board meeting "This is a bad idea".

1:57 "...and he called them 'trounds',.." * pause for groans.

Finally a revolver that fires hi-chew.

@THESLlCK

2 жыл бұрын

HAAAAAAAAH

Love the short pause after "trounds" so we could all really let that sink in.

This gun is so gloriously 1950's, right down to the logo and the box. I love it.

It's always funny to hear Ian say "I've been wanting to do a video on this one for a while" while I'm like "I had no idea this gun even existed until you did a video on it." Makes me wonder what other guns he's been eyeing that plenty of us don't even know exist.

Celanese Fortiflex sounds like a character in a new Star Wars franchise...

@oscarbaezsoria1650

4 жыл бұрын

To me it sounds more like a crappy cereal.

@donweatherwax9318

4 жыл бұрын

Can't it be both?

@Argonak1

4 жыл бұрын

Flex-tape in 30 years.

@ianmacfarlane1241

4 жыл бұрын

@MooresGroup Who shot first? Han Solo or Celanese Fortiflex?

@troya8627

4 жыл бұрын

And this gun looks like something from Star Wars

This is actualy smart mechanism, imagine this on a shotgun. Imagine how much recoil it would have, It would be shotgun minnigun.

@kirkcavenaugh758

4 жыл бұрын

You're saying the recoil would be less?

@tomaskanka6223

4 жыл бұрын

@@kirkcavenaugh758 No, the imagine recoil on a minnigun and combine it with a shotgun. Its really big. So im saying that recoil would be enormous.

@InvidiousIgnoramus

4 жыл бұрын

@@tomaskanka6223 Shotgun shells really don't have that much recoil considering the size.

@thomasball5432

4 жыл бұрын

@@tomaskanka6223 revolving and auto/semiauto shotguns exist, the minigun comparison doesn't make much sense.

@secretbaguette

3 жыл бұрын

Helooooo, space program.

I legitimately wish someone made repros of these, the Dardicks were so wacky but such interesting guns. Honestly with modern polymers and 3D printing this concept might be worth taking a look at.

We need to see a 2-Gun Action challenge pitting the Dardick against the Gyrojet

@aleksanderszablinski6941

4 жыл бұрын

The100thAttempt the fact this is already a thing both shouldn’t have surprised me and completely astounded me. God damn it do I love the internet

@isaiahcampbell488

4 жыл бұрын

This is pure beauty...I'm not crying...whose crying *blows nose*

@Reddsoldier

4 жыл бұрын

I feel that they should have combined their concepts into a triangle rocket bullet firing magazine revolver... They could've called it the Gyrodick

@finnmcool2

3 жыл бұрын

I call winner! I just got a Zip 22...

Now there's a proper forgotten weapon. And for good reasons.

@pbellbell

4 жыл бұрын

yes but eunice.

@metalhead522

4 жыл бұрын

No

@Hellsong89

4 жыл бұрын

I dont know about that. Its surely forgotten, but internals if updated to 21st century, using common ammunition like 9mm and in short bullpup configuration this would be ideal to get around Finnish gun regulation where owning a handgun requires absolutely ridiculous amounts of hoop jumping and same apply to all semi-automatic guns. Essentially government is trying to little by little kill any and all private gun ownership in the country, being afraid people will riot due their corruption and out right treason, like among other things turning electric, road, railroad networks into private companies and then selling them to foreign corporations, not to mention selling Finnish clean water table to also for foreign corporations. Plus hellawa lot unneeded taxes that are then poured into private companies as government aid money, what usually are owned by politician or their close family members, most recent ones being those immigration centers and of course trowing public money towards EU to gain high paying seat in EU...

I know its got plenty of disadvantages compared to most other pistols, but I sincerely love the look and design of this gun. It's just so cool!

>do you want a pistol or revolver? Dardick: yes

I didn't grow up around guns, but I always found them interesting and always tried to figure out how machines worked, so when I tried to figure out how a semiautomatic pistol worked with pure speculation and no actual firsthand experience in the matter, what I came up with was actually very similar to this.

1:57 the silence, I think, indicates the distain Ian feels for the term ‘trounds’

If I ever make a 50's shooter this is going in! Also this feels more like a Revolver-fed Magazine!

"Hello, I am interested in a 1950s hairdryer-shaped magazine fed revolver with triangular ammunition that looks like it came from the movie 'Forbiden Planet'." "Right this way, sir."

@Psilomuscimol

5 ай бұрын

Family guy?

Is this the long fabled assault revolver? Also I don’t care how impractical it is I want one, badly

@flare9757

4 жыл бұрын

Cody Painter I actually designed something I called the “assault pistol”. Looks like a Halo Magnum in silhouette but a bit smaller, and the guide rod roughly alined with the center of the grip.

@johnm3907

4 жыл бұрын

Imperial Shocktrooper funny comment

@norwegianwiking

4 жыл бұрын

we could probably make a .22LR version using 3D printed case adapters easily today. Buy adapters or print your own. gun will cost probably 3k, printing a single adapter takes an hour or two.

@GunsNGames1

4 жыл бұрын

Magazine fed, high capacity assault cilinder with 500 round assault clips

@KILOXSILENCER

4 жыл бұрын

@Jimm Crowe tis a fucking joke my man.

There should have been a Dardick-Fosbery semi-automatic magazine-fed revolver. More seriously, this looks like with a bit of effort it could be developed into a useful design. Both the aluminum cover and steel body appear excessively large for what they need to do, and a simplified firing system may also be possible. Modern polymers and fabrication might allow for smaller trounds as well. Finally, incorporate a detachable magazine, and you could have an extremely accurate gun that would be an incredible optic / silencer host.

@LeafseasonMagbag

4 жыл бұрын

A good concept Also, Fosbery-Dardick sounds like the last-name of a steampunk character

@perrywaaz3660

7 ай бұрын

That would have been so cool

40 years ago, I was introduced to a friend of a friend. We were talking guns when he went into his closet and pulled out a bag full of pistols. He had colt peace makers, early 1911s lugers, Walthers, Schofields and then he pulled out one of these! I had only seen one in books, I never thought I would see or hold one!

07:15: If gun Jesus can load bullets backward, so can everyone else.

@MurcuryEntertainment

4 жыл бұрын

Solution? A bullet that can fire loaded backwards

@joergmaass

4 жыл бұрын

@@MurcuryEntertainment Kinda like a darwinian solution to the gun proliferation problem...

@jessb91106

4 жыл бұрын

I had a buddy that I took shooting and he loaded a magazine for my M1 Carbine while I was in the bathroom. I came back and realized he had loaded the entire magazine backwards and did not understand why it would not chamber.

@victoriaevelyn3953

4 жыл бұрын

might be a safety reason dont want a live round going off

@whitenoise1119

4 жыл бұрын

Safety

This gun is basically screams "I want to be in a 50s Sci-Fi movie!!!“

@briancarlson6216

4 жыл бұрын

Depends are you the hero if not 50 50 odds you die depending on what genre

@josepherhardt164

4 жыл бұрын

What era movie would you find a Zip 22 in? :) :) :)

@travis5125

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Rumor has is that the original script of the _Rocky Horror Picture Show_ calls for Riff Raff to use this to kill Dr. Frank. "I'm your new commander, you now are my prisoner!"

@miguelcastaneda7236

3 жыл бұрын

looks easy to tear down and maintain...pity it didnt take

@TheJabbate1

3 жыл бұрын

I’m now disappointed that it wasn’t in Fallout

I remember seeing someone shooting this odd little thing when I was a wee lad. I think hi name was Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen. That is what you get when you put a Gyrojet pistol and a 1911 in the same vault for too long.

@kabob0077

4 жыл бұрын

Why am I imagining Commander Cody from Star Wars stuck on EDN III with this gun?

@TrinidadJamesWoods

4 жыл бұрын

If a Gyrojet and a Mars had a child, it would look like this Dardick.

@svtirefire

4 жыл бұрын

Actually it's nothing at all like a 1911.

@fetishartist137

4 жыл бұрын

#securecontainprotect

I learned of the existence of this strange gun, googled it, and (of course) Ian has a video about it. Cheers mate.

This is my luck when I go looking for a gun in the zombie apocalypse... no bullets left in existence

Celanese still exist as a speciality polymer company. I couldn't find out anything about Fortiflex, so maybe they don't make that any more or it is called something else. They do make a product called Forflex (I don't think they are the same) which seems to be mostly an EVA (Ethylenevinylacetate), this is the stuff Crocs and similar are made of.

That case looks ripped straight from a pencil-holder I used to have to grip my pencils better.

@norwegianwiking

4 жыл бұрын

they still make those

@MrMinatoArisato00

4 жыл бұрын

That profile picture. Seems familiar..

@jacobfarley434

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrMinatoArisato00 it's the logo for Ooarai in Girl Und Panzer

@Timbobjr

4 жыл бұрын

Panzer Vor!

@Swat_Dennis

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrMinatoArisato00 Yep, I use it just because I thought it was fun to. I really don't have any other thing to use as a pf :wink:

I first learned about the Dardick guns in the novel "The Dogs of War" by Frederick Forsyth. In the novel a gang of mercenaries turns to an arms dealer to procure guns for a coup in a small country in Africa. He can offer them mostly older weapons such as MP38/40 and such. And Dardick revolvers. The mercenaries are skeptical, having heard about the ridicelous triangular cartridges, but he convinces them that they will work just fine, and they do. So in the novel the Dardick revolver was well known and produced in large enough numbers that they could procure enough for a small army. It seems they had bought pretty much all that had been produced, since no one else wanted them. Unfortunately, the Dardick revolvers did not feature in the movie based on the book. Most of the weapons were substituted by Uzis and Ingram MAC10s dressed up to look like Uzis. Though the main protagonist does wield an unusal revolving weapon, a 26.5" Manville Machine Projector. This sounds like fodder for a Movie/novel special at the range.

is this the "assault revolver with a high capacity clip" that news sites keep talking about?

@Mikey-xz4vn

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe - depends if the Dardick is fully semi-automatic or not

@gedionseeker543

3 жыл бұрын

Fully automatic, semi automatic News companies; fully semi-automatic Some random guy on the internet; Semi semi automatic Me; gets joke but face Palms anyway

If I remember correctly, someone mentioned in a review of their Dardick that someone had figured out the cartridge dimensions and had cartridge cases made out of modern polymer. They were supposedly semi-reliable, and dirt cheap to make...just lacking in the durability department. So at least there’s that.

@halweiss8671

2 жыл бұрын

A fully loaded one would weigh a little less than with brass rounds, wouldn’t it?

@jaxxons11

2 жыл бұрын

@@halweiss8671 Maybe? If you wanna check out the review, its by LifeSizePotato. He's also got other good ones, like on some rarer HK pistols and the PX4.

@halweiss8671

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaxxons11 thanks for the recommendation.

I never thought I would hear the words “Magazine” and “Revolver” in the same sentence. edit: I stand corrected

@jamesriggs6210

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. Some of the weapons,well actually a lot of the weapons Ian has featured just make my jaw drop.

@kristiankatic9965

4 жыл бұрын

"Revolvers usually don't use magazines." See, they can be in the same sentence without much problems 😁

@gunner678

4 жыл бұрын

Reminiscent of the automatic revolver Webley Fosbury.

@svtirefire

4 жыл бұрын

I read about a revolver in a gun magazine.

@reliantncc1864

4 жыл бұрын

Technically, all revolvers have magazines. They're just internal, rotary magazines. What I want to see next is a bolt-action flintlock.

Surprised nobody's mentioned it, but that is a tround going into the chamber BACKWARDS at 7:18 ... I could see that being an issue, but easily addressed! Let's 3d print some modern trounds with arrows a la "this way toward enemy"!

A magazine fed revolver, now that’s something you don’t see everyday.

Combine this with a Webley-Fosbery and you've got yourself an automatic, magazine-fed revolver!

@evanwickstrom5698

4 жыл бұрын

then make it full auto

@thesturm8686

4 жыл бұрын

@@evanwickstrom5698 and put carbine conversion handguard and stick holster

@THESLlCK

2 жыл бұрын

@@thesturm8686 while we're all still here it needs a massive scope for that epic MLG

I've been waiting for this one! Shoutout to LifeSizePotato.

@norwegianwiking

4 жыл бұрын

do we know if he's still alive?

@cyanidic3673

4 жыл бұрын

yeah is he still utube active he hasnt made a vid in almost a year and half i believe

@Dr4gon2000

4 жыл бұрын

Shit, just saw this comment before posting the same thing lol

@chickenphirm8968

4 жыл бұрын

@Jurassic Pork interesting, he's still active on Reddit though so maybe he's downsizing?

@morvan68mt

4 жыл бұрын

@@chickenphirm8968 I don't think it's his one - if you watch the videos together, the scratches/marks look different, and also lifesizepotato had a 2nd barrel

Whoever was doing the graphical design work for the branding and designs on the boxes was pretty on point, it's not extremely detailed but there's a good choice of color, font, and stylings going on.

Not gonna lie, the Logo design and box design is really stylish. And the rounds itself really fancy looking. Never heard about this type of experiment. Amazing video.

I have actually seen one of these for sale, back in the early 60’s. Like so many things of that era, its main appeal was that it was different. Interesting video.

I’ve actually shot one of these It had been modified and repaired with some milled brass parts and adapter and a steel 22 Barrel liner One thing I would like to note is all you have to do is handle one to see why it was a Failure it feels very cheap like a toy Cap gun

@MasterOfDestructionX

4 жыл бұрын

Damn good shit

@fragglefknrock7568

4 жыл бұрын

If you actually held one and fired one you wouldn't think it was a cap gun or cheap toy.... It's actually quite heavy. It's made of steel and aluminum and is thick in quite a few areas..

@fragglefknrock7568

4 жыл бұрын

It also holds 15+1 rounds.. that adds weight.

@mrfluffytailthethird

4 жыл бұрын

Weight doesn’t Indicate quality It’s poorly made Compared to the S&Ws and colts that were at Available at the time for half the price Cap guns of the 50s were also made of cast zinc Aluminum or magnesium

@fragglefknrock7568

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrfluffytailthethird point being it's made fine just the idea is poor. Weight indicates quality in alot of cases. This not being zinc or magnesium counts out the cap gun nonsense and the little kicker trounds this gun fires off also isn t comparable. The firing mechanism barrel and trigger system is actually very well made. I'm just speculating that your comment is overexagerated.

I'm very good friends with the Dardick family, I've seen this gun as well as all the attachments for it. Obviously not a very functional weapon, but like you said, it's only a housing unit. The real invention was the action and the tround and from what I have seen from their current projects, they were on the right track in the 50's

This deserved to be used as a star wars blaster lol

Ian had an H&K USP moment when demonstrating the loading, put the cartridge in backwards.

@MrEvanfriend

4 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too. I'm thinking maybe it was deliberate, like Rock Island didn't wan't people loading live rounds (or trounds either for that matter) into guns at their auction house.

@grafknives9544

4 жыл бұрын

It may also demonstrate a fatal design flaw. It seems that cartridges are symmetric so you could load all magazine wrong way.

@theJellyjoker

4 жыл бұрын

I suspect that was a common problem

@TheTyrantOfMars

4 жыл бұрын

Jeff Liggett Don’t think I got used enough to to even develop ‘common problems my god what a terrible sidearm this would be

@de0509

4 жыл бұрын

As for me I was like bruh, that seems dangerous, and then felt relieved seeing the bullet end towards the back

Having lived in that general area for 30+ years I often wondered if there was something weird in Hamden's water...

This has to be the raison d'etre for this channel's existence. That's just nutty.

This is why I love your channel, loving guns not for the fact that they are guns but how the work and their functions. So interesting to see others ideas.

Marketing Manager: Boys, We need a new slick name for our triangular rounds! Janitor: How about..... um...... Trounds.......? Marketing Manager: Hire this man immediately!

@josepherhardt164

4 жыл бұрын

Modern Marketing Manager: Give this guy $20 and a fifth of bourbon and have him sign an NDA.

I've wanted to see someone actually touch these for one forever. Ian, make a company called "potomac" and make a modern tround-gun

Garry James did an article in Guns & Ammo on the Dardick early this year I believe. He had some aluminum triangular cases milled out that a regular .38 Special cartridge could be inserted into to be run through the pistol; seemed to help a lot with the functioning of the weapon.

that is just the most bizarre gun ever

Is that that darn high capacity revolver California was talking about?

@kylef634

4 жыл бұрын

we finally found it!

@teamcybr8375

4 жыл бұрын

High capacity assault revolver with high capacity magazines.

Been reading/hearing about the Dardick for a long time, thank you for some good detailed info, Ian! But what intrigues me most is the info you mention early--around the 1 minute mark--that the revolver was made to support the machine gun development. Now, THAT seems like it might be interesting to learn about. I'm guessing that with so few revolvers sold, the "real" project didn't go very far? Clearly we don't have tround firing machine guns. Was there any work/development done towards that idea? Thank you for another excellent episode!

@jbt-qu6lm

4 жыл бұрын

we actually do have tround firing machine guns! kzread.info/dash/bejne/m5qpzM5tmpybhLw.html

I'd love to walk into a gun store and say "I need a magazine repair for my revolver" with a straight face.

FW: The interesting part of triangular cartridges is that you can fit more bullets in one spot than a cylinder Me: hehe funny name Dardick

I’m sure half the reason it wasn’t adopted was the word *tround* . What a groaner.

@skeetsmcgrew3282

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine going up to the gun counter like "Hey yea could I get 2 boxes of trounds?" **Gun shop owner snickers** "Um I'm sorry can you repeat that?" -- "Must I?"

@jonasstrzyz2469

4 жыл бұрын

@@skeetsmcgrew3282 Imagine a LEO while engaged in a gunfight. I am out of trounds!

@SonicsniperV7

4 жыл бұрын

"Okay sir we like your gun, it really has potential and the high capacity has us interested. Now what did you say you call these new bullets?" "Trounds" "...okay never mind we're cancelling the contract. Get out."

@ericyonchak7026

4 жыл бұрын

Skeets McGrew Gonna go to the field with my buddies today and send a few *trounds* downrange.

The Springfield Armory museum has a Remington pistol that used a similar design and triangular ammunition... in the 1860's.

@MrAnticlimate

4 жыл бұрын

Now *that* is a forgotten weapon perfect for this channel ☺.

@edwalmsley1401

4 жыл бұрын

A few manufacturers came up with funky case designs to try and work round the rollin white patent for bored through cylinders owned by S&W,teat fire anyone ?

@evanwickstrom5698

4 жыл бұрын

oooh, anyone got any more info on that thing? I’m curious now.

Videos like this are why I love this channel.

Thank you Anton for introducing this weird gun in your video so i would have seach it and found this.

A great companion piece for your Gyrojet pistol. Looks like you could easily load a round, oops, "tround" in backwards, but it would just cycle through the action and be ejected.

When you see a graphic representation of a strange cartridge and you already know it’s gonna be a complete, yet interesting, failure

One of the Sherlock Holmes stories "The Dancing Men", features a revolver with an ejector. Every time I read it, I think of the Dardick. Unfortunately, the story was written in 1903, long before the Dardick was made. What Sir Arthur was thinking of is anybody's guess. I suspect he was using "revolver" to mean "handgun".

@medes5597

4 жыл бұрын

British police guns of the era is what he meant. A handgun but definitely a revolver and it did indeed eject rounds like he describes. I can't remember the model but check it because its a real thing he's describing. Cool as hell too from what I remember. The Jeremy Brett sherlock holmes series uses the correct revolver in their adaption of the story as well.

@thomasball5432

3 жыл бұрын

There were a few auto-ejecting revolvers. They serve no real purpose other than being 19th century Tacticool™

@christopherdean1326

3 жыл бұрын

@@medes5597 I haven't watched it in a while (have it on DVD, and videotape!), but my recollection is of Abe Slaney carrying a Colt Single Action Army, no auto ejection there!

@haroldbalzac6336

Жыл бұрын

Silver and Fletcher's Expert had an auto ejector, that could be the gun Sir Arthur was talking about.

@christopherdean1326

Жыл бұрын

@@haroldbalzac6336 Interesting! I shall delve further into that. Thanks!

Amazing video as usual. What amuse me alot is that precisely the day before you published this video, someone posted a picture from the simpsons, showing someone loading a magazine into a traditionnal-looking revolver (not a group about guns, BTW, it was just for laughs). And I said "Well there's Ian on KZread, if such a thing ever existed, even as a prototype, he'll show it eventually". And you delivers. Quite an amusing coincidence :)

I feel like this is the first video I ever watched of Forgotten Weapons. How has Ian not done this until now?

@edwalmsley1401

4 жыл бұрын

Just availability I think

I've always thought this gun looked weird or silly from the pictures I had seen, but now that I get to see Ian handle it, I find myself starting to like it. I'm a bit sad it didn't take off.

I love the ingenuity of this. Bold design choices made from a place of logic.

Just when I thought I knew all exotic designs in firearms... Thanks for your research and for the quallity of your videos. Cheers from France.

Dardick revolver says to the Zip 22 "I am your father"

@kabob0077

4 жыл бұрын

That's not true! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!

@mjtheko

4 жыл бұрын

Join me, and together we will rule the galaxy! (Of really bad guns)

@kevinwaddle447

4 жыл бұрын

"And your uncle is the Gyro-Jet!"

@RRVCrinale

4 жыл бұрын

kevin waddle "Well, what does that make us?"

A somewhat similar concept was actually put into practice earlier in the Soviet ShKAS aircraft machine gun. It uses a cylindrical, revolving feed case that incrementally pulls each cartridge out of its belt link as it travels around in a circle. This makes for a smooth delinking process and a strong and even belt pull, allowing the gun to fire at a pretty blistering 1800 RPM while using long belts without too much trouble. Apparently there was even a version that went all the way up to 3000 RPM, but that was quickly obsoleted by larger-calibre cannons that emerged around the same time.

@endernoah9526

8 ай бұрын

That sounds interesting. Do you remember the name of said gun?

Really was a genius design...just never got a second chance. Had a few more important people been interested in this (like with the Volcanic), it could have easily been the next Henry rifle.

Wow I think this is the coolest pistol / revolver ever. certainly the design is 50 years ahead of its time

I read something about this system relating to a "gatling" type cannon project to be used in aircraft.

Imagine having to disassemble this with a drill sergeant yelling at you while insulting your mom? Using loud, colorful language 6 inches from your face..

@marko11kram

4 жыл бұрын

Disassembly is pretty easy----- ASSEMBLY under a shelter half when it's freezing and night, is the trick

@thesturm8686

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine losing a spring in the field

@marko11kram

4 жыл бұрын

@@thesturm8686 That would be easy peasy

Now this is a truly fascinating forgotten weapon.

One of the best functional prints I've seen in a long time.

@bermchasin

2 жыл бұрын

i made a 3d printed annealing machine for 6.5 creedmoor