Crowdfunding link - gamefound.com/en/projects/wearecgs/dante *Note - The team has confirmed they are bringing in a writer to help make the narrative even better, and that they are continuing to work on the ordeals. Also, apparently the ordeal mechanics change in different circles of hell, which should be good for variety* 0:00 - Introduction 0:50 - Game Overview 3:18 - Prologue 5:10 - The Dark Forest 7:17 - ORDEAL #1 12:06 - The Hill of Virtue and the Infernal Gates 14:45 - The Shores of Acheron 17:18 - The Castle Gates and the Limbo Bailey 20:49 - ORDEAL #2 and Limbo Camp 25:53 - The Gates of Minos 28:52 - ORDEAL #3 and the House of the Ayyubid 32:58 - Conclusion 34:27 - Impressions

Thank you, Mike, for taking the time to explore DANTE. Giving us the opportunity to showcase our game to your audience is truly appreciated! As with any prototype, many aspects have evolved, especially since we're conducting playtests on TTS and enhancing the gameplay. However, I believe it provides viewers with a good understanding of what the Exploration Phase entails! Once again, thank you. We hope our community thoroughly enjoys the experience!

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

Your team is doing awesome work. I’m very much enjoying this

Mike, thank you very much for your very thoughtful review of the game! I really enjoyed your analysis of the Chronicle Phase and boy, I really wish we had taken the time to send out the most up-to-date versions of the prototype. If you have interest, time, or curiosity, later, we will have the most current stage of this confrontation available in TTS during the Campaign (more or less 3 months of development later) and we had some significant changes in the Chronicle Phase, but I still wanted to know what you would think of them. We cut an average of 1/3 of the texts, we redid some passages to emphasize what the Order did and why it did it, right from the start, and yes, we are working on the characters' backgrounds so that each one of them comes with their own "agenda" in the moment when the Caravan phase begins, in a kind of Codex (just like the Bloodstained Letter). From the second Circle onwards, the characters' Background begins to be explored. In fact, we took this first experience to function as a tutorial and increased the complexity step by step as the Chapters progressed. Still, I think the new version of Limbo is worth checking out. Mechanically nothing has changed, but this change in the narrative pace and the update of the Artifact cards and the fight against the Malefactor already transforms the Game feel completely.

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

That all sounds awesome! I'm very excited to see these changes in action further along.

Hmm a bit disapointed by this. The story seems to be all over the place and a bit confusing. Which is not a good sign. I know its WIP but still.. i hope other reviewers recieved the new intro and lets hope that the combat will blow us away 😊

Very nice review, thank you. 😄

A bit bummed that skill checks are math tests, my wife will hate it. Looking forward to the boss battle section. Oathsworn is my favorite board game and this seems to have similar vibes

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

I think they are still working on that mechanic, and it’s supposed to change to something different in the next circle of hell. Boss fight coming Thursday!

@luisecmf

6 ай бұрын

@@OneStopCoopShop Thank you, looking forward to it and subscribed to the channel. Can you let me know how the complexity of the game compares to Oathsworn overall? I'm looking for a game in the same ballpark or simpler. Not looking for AT:O weight.

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

@luisecmf I’d say it’s right in the same complexity level as Oathsworn

Thanks for your work with this video ❤️ this game is one of my most anticipated board game crowdfunding of this year

@rickbachCGS

6 ай бұрын

Thank you @marcot, we are preparing a lot of cool thinks for the campaign.

I absolutely adore the graphic style, that they stick to "old-church-book-style" type of graphics

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

Just to be clear, the images that popped up during the read are old medieval pictures I got from the internet to “spice up” the longer narrative passages. Those aren’t part of the game art 😅😅😅

@Misterlokie

6 ай бұрын

Oh No, cgs: use them!!!

@andrewmartinez2354

5 ай бұрын

@@OneStopCoopShopI was wondering about that 😅 glad you mentioned that because I couldn’t see much artwork when you panned over to the script.

@OneStopCoopShop

5 ай бұрын

@andrewmartinez2354 yeah so far the format is a lot like tainted grail, if you’ve seen that. 1-2 representative images (usually similar to what’s on the map cards) and a lot of text

So far, I do not think that this will be one for me. Which is good because I have too many games?!

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

I think not buying a game is the right call 90% of the time ;)

Nice to see that the writing seems to have improved, or at least will improve significantly from Drunagor. That alone makes me much more interested in this, not to mention the unique mechanics. Thanks for the preview!

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

That’s good to hear, and they seem to be continuing to improve the narrative. I still haven’t played drunagor yet

I hope this game has a good itemization system. The one in oathsworn felt pretty tacked on. There was 0 reason to have that many item cards in the game when you are force fed upgrades regardless of outcome. There was no sense of discovery or choice in build like KDM. Ur just given the next set for power creep reasons. Townsfolk tussle did it best.

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

The ones I’ve seen are pretty powerful, but since you can only bring one accessory per character into battle it seems like you won’t ever have a ton of them, for better or worse

Thanks for showcasing this game! Excited to see new ideas in this boss battler/story-based genre like Oathsworn. Pretty much agree with all your critiques - I was disappointed by the story part due to how abstracted the characters felt. Maybe I'm a bit spoiled after the excellent world-building of Oathsworn and how well they incorporated your characters into that world. That being said, that idea of Confrontation Objectives allowing story choices to substantially change the battle looks awesome! Would love to see that idea explored more in games.

Not played this type of game before as they make me think there's not much life/variety in them. However, this is a great vid of what looks like an interesting game. For me, now that I've seen what the game is all about, it'll be the price that determines if it's worth buying.

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

I don’t know that myself. It looks like they will have a standee version at least.

@rickbachCGS

6 ай бұрын

We invite you to follow and check it out! We will surprise you in a very good way!

Thank you for sharing! While I love the art style, I really don't think this game is for me. That's actually a relief considering the number of larger narrative games that arrived in the last few months and will take me quite some time to get through.

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

Oh man, there’s nothing better than NOT backing a $200-400 game. You can feel so proud of yourself, and then justify buying 10 less expensive games 😜😅

@morgaknightgames

6 ай бұрын

@@OneStopCoopShop This. 😆

Hi. Did you shuffle the remainding arcana cards back into the arcana deck after the ordeal, or are they discarded?

@OneStopCoopShop

5 ай бұрын

You shuffle them back in. They mostly represent the major arcana of the tarot, so there are only something like 20-30 of them

@Fontzig

5 ай бұрын

@@OneStopCoopShop Nice. Thanks ✌️ My plan is to play this on TTS after work 😊

Well narrated, Mike 😊 I do worry a bit that this phase is a little too light on the game play. It leaves the narrative progression feeling too fast and too focused on exposition, rather than a persuasive adventure that feels personal and dramatic.

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

Part of me is okay with reading and light mechanics to get to the fight quicker, but another part of me agrees with you :)

I'm not sure how I feel about this. If the choices you make can really lead to different fights and endings then that's big plus. But the ordeals aren't that immersive to me. If you have to combine a red with a blue number each time, it's really mostly about luck. I don't like regular skill checks, but at least they're done quickly. I appreciate that they try to divert from normal skill checks, but there's too little agency for me to make it work. I also would like to see specific traits or abilities for each character in this phase. Do characters gain skills for this phase? If so, I would like the skills to be different for each character. It would make me a lot more invested in the character I play which would add to the immersiveness.

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

So far I haven’t seen much that is character specific, besides the little bit in the forest section

Is this available as a demo on TTS? I want to try it out before deciding to pull the trigger next month!

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

It should be available during the actual crowdfunding campaign period. But I don’t think it’s up yet.

I’ve been *super* blah about board games over the past several months. While most of this is a “me” problem, there’ve also been ridiculously few truly exciting games announced. Dante, though….Dante I’m REALLY looking forward to! Thanks for the demo, Mike! (The only other game lately that has me excited is Spirit Fire from ONeb, even though I’m super frustrated with the campaign and limited info)

@rickbachCGS

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the support! We are dedicated to create something unique. Reason we are so actively searching for feedback.

@DocHogan

6 ай бұрын

@@rickbachCGS ship it faster than current CoD? :D

@rickbachCGS

6 ай бұрын

@@DocHogan We are already working on that. I want to fulfill our own in the US. WB let us down and backers. Not acceptable,

@DocHogan

6 ай бұрын

@@rickbachCGS I’m sure it’s incredibly frustrating for you guys. While I *am* a bit excited for mine to arrive (I’ve held off playing CoD:AoD until update pack arrives), I’m only very very slightly impatient for it. Extremely “First World problem”. It’s definitely not preventing me jumping into Dante in a big, BIG way; the Divine Comedy is among my favorite works, and I’ve liked what of seen of the game thematically.

Honestly, this looks very unique. But after the whalebacker fiasco I am currently experiencing with the fulfillment of their current campaign (Drunagor Apocalypse,), I'll skip and wait for a store release or used copy, I know they're doing their best. 😢

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

Hope you get your game soon!

@rickbachCGS

6 ай бұрын

All I can say is that we dont only take feedback for our products, we also do for partners. After CoD fulfillment with WB, we can only promise that we will be a lot more conservative when it comes to fulfillment partners, also.

@raortiz73

6 ай бұрын

@r​@@rickbachCGSI don't think conservative is the word you are looking for when evaluating shipping partners.

I'm disappointed to see so many comments from people who are disappointed... These quick maths puzzles- that aren't completely brain-dead and do offer some potentially interesting choices- are much more fun to me than randomly chucking a bunch of dice 🤷‍♀️ Looking forward to seeing the second video to get a more well-rounded view of the whole game.

What's the Date for this Gamefound ?

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

It could change, but the page says February 20.

@rickbachCGS

6 ай бұрын

Feb 20th-Feb29th.

@robotradar

6 ай бұрын

That seems rather short?

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

As someone who has run or been involved in multiple crowdfunding campaigns, it’s always tough to say what the right length is. You tend to get a lot of dead air time when you have a long campaign, with not much excitement or momentum in the middle 🤷‍♂️

@rickbachCGS

6 ай бұрын

@@robotradar The ideia is to integrate the 9 Circles into the campaign and as Mike said, completely destroy the down time of the middle of the campaign, making it a fun and unique experience for all backers.

I can’t help but feel disappointed with this. I feel like so much is disconnected from the theme. “You see a panther in the woods.” (Now draw 3 blue and 3 red cards and try to combine their numbers to match various target cards) I feel like this just takes you out of the game and is different just for the sake of being different. I would almost prefer dice rolling. Sure, dice rolling is just as swingy but at least it’s quick and keeps the story moving. I love the box art, and the location card art but everything else just doesn’t seem to match the theme. Nothing comes across as a hellish atmosphere. (I saw the map tiles on another channel) I’m keeping an eye on this but can’t help but feel disappointed. Really looking forward to the boss battle so you can change my mind. 😂

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

Not trying to change your mind, just showing the game as it currently stands so you can draw your own conclusions ;) But the team is pretty active in the forums, so I’m sure they’ll see your critique

As someone who was super excited by this game, I have to say I'm super disappointed by the quick math mechanism. I'm absolutely terrible at mental math, so this is going to feel like a chore rather than a game.

I would like to start with a positive. I like the art. I think it fits well to the theme. But oh my gosh… a wall of text followed by another wall of text… in between math puzzles… 🙄 If I would like to read several pages, I would grab a book and not a board game. The decisions are semi interesting, if I back it (the game was on my list, it still is but my interest has been lowered), I will use the quick combat mechanic. Still 2 (?) pages to read but…

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

This might not be the genre for you in general then, because almost all of these recent big boss battler campaign games have wall after wall of text - Oathsworn, aeon trespass odyssey, etc But as you mentioned, it’s nice that many of them are giving a TLDR option to jump to the action!

@sparky77de

6 ай бұрын

I do not like how they try to integrate the story to the game. As far as I remember, Primal will not have such a “story” part, neither does KDM or Townsfolk Tussle. Back to Dante, I have to draw random cards to solve little math puzzles by drawing random cards? Really? I really miss the connection to the characters and the story I had to read before I had to draw them. But thank you for presenting the game. I’m looking forward to the second part.

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

@nils9458 I am SUPER excited for Primal. Like you I hope the narrative is minimal and I can just punch a dragon

Was getting excited for this game until I watched this. This phase of the game honestly looks brutal. The mini card game seems unnecessary and boring. Thanks for posting this

@OneStopCoopShop

6 ай бұрын

Happy to help!