That's my C63, brilliant job lads 👍

@sprautos

8 ай бұрын

Thanks steve. All the best.

I like your videos, especially the ones on engines. I had this rust issue on my 2004 W211. A mechanic told me that copper in ABS cars is not acceptable. He was not sure about the reason. So I bought a coil of Ate steel brake pipe and shaped that to fit the car.

Using copper pipe seems ingenious - flexible, rust proof and cheaper than the Mercedes part.

@Disruptedgarage

4 ай бұрын

I've done a few here in northeastern USA. Used steel replacement, and hated the stuff. Hard to fit, and destroys the flaring dies. Pushed hard for the copper alloy tubing in the shop. It's more expensive for sure, but worth every penny. Best benefit, flaring dies last a very long time.

@user-sf7kl9uh7k

4 ай бұрын

It has to be done properly though, like these guys do. Because if it's incorrectly routed/secured it can oscillate and crack.

Very informative video, atleast it shows all the people who initially decline the job what could potentially go wrong. Top work lads👍

Nice Vid. Great workmanship. Back round 1990 l bought a seven year old BMW 635. It was a private import into Aust from the UK. It had a similar problem rusty brake lines which l had got replaced ASAP. And the BMW had no extensive covers beneath like the mercs nowadays.

Thank God I own two of the best Mercedes had to offer. A1994 W124 E280 & a fabulous 2003 W211 E320. Both cars in pristine condition & both here in Australia. No rust, no crap!

Fantastic work

Great video guys , really neat factory bent pipes 🙏

Great video really useful information will have to get my car booked in for these to be replaced 👍

@sprautos totally agree at the brake pipes. My old W204 C class passed the MOT, but the mercedes specialist picked up the corroded brake pipes. So thankful to specialists like yourselves. Great video by the way! 😊

@sprautos

8 ай бұрын

That’s good they spotted them and got them sorted for you. Appreciate the support.

W204, W212 very common, brilliant video 👌

@sprautos

8 ай бұрын

Thanks ray appreciate the nice comment all the best.

I use a square block of wood at 6”long with a hole drilled down the middle just slightly bigger than the copper pipe , the just pull the pipe through the hole dose the same job , 👍

@sprautos

3 ай бұрын

Yes I’ve seen people do that, it’s works well.

Just put my E60 2.5i BMW 2006 through its MOT and it passed I had to put it in the garage I use for work on my car for a broken rear spring and the garage owner phoned me to say the car needed a complete brake pipe replacement same thing pipes hidden under a plastic cover so had to replace them

Interesting ..fortunately I am in a warm and dry country , so brake pipes do not corrode. I am always surprised at the state of the underside of the cars in countries where they salt the roads ,or where people drive in rain most of the time.

Is there a particular reason other than cost that from the factory they don't use stainless steel for brake pipes? Genuine question. My mechanical knowledge is limited on cars I'm more of motorcycle tech.

Great video and content! How much would you charge to get this changed over?

@sprautos

8 ай бұрын

each job is different but in this case i think it was around £600

I am most interested in the fact you use copper pipes on a performance car? Are copper brake the right ones for the application here? Granted they are easy to install for you as a mechanic… but how do they behave under heavy use, e.g track where you have high temperatures and you want a solid pedal feel? (Just for background I used to work in chassis and brake development @ JLR)

@sprautos

8 ай бұрын

I was waiting for a comment about the copper lines 😂. Well in 20 years I’ve never had an issue. We can offer kunifer brake line or even the steel coated but it all depends on the customers budget as it’s a more expensive material and takes more labour to fit. So we have to work with the customer. You will be more of The expert here given your background and interested to here what you say. Every car including AMGs I’ve had in that have had brake pipes at some point in there life have had copper “not fitted by us” but I fully understand what your saying.

Copper from factory would be a good idea. But then production speed would be compromised.

Didn’t know you could get a copper pipe straightener….thanks for that 😊…. How many miles had the vehicle done?

@stevescooby5553

8 ай бұрын

75000

Shouldn't an MOT inspector open any 'inspection" panels to check this??? This seems like one of the top things that should be checked

@sprautos

7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately they have a set tool board they are aloud to us and are not aloud to remove wheels or inspection covers.

Sameon my ml350 2007 replaced entire system.German salty waffele

I have a question or 2 for you mate , why didn’t they come with copper pipes from factory as they don’t rust and given the fact this is a subject of safety ? Could it be that manufacturers assume they will make more money from after sales jobs and also is it any different from steel piping for use in performance cars? In my ownership of amgs I will never cut back or refuse the car of things it would need replacing as my OCD of it all😅

@sprautos

7 ай бұрын

I suppose steel is the strongest option, and warm countries won’t suffer like we do here in the Uk. They do now fit steel with a a plastic coating on which is much better but will still fail in time in the Uk. Some people will say you should replace with steel again on performance cars, personally I’ve never had an issue or seen an issue, you could use nickel pipe also which can stand a higher pressure to copper.

@godspeed6315

7 ай бұрын

@@sprautos thanks for reply so steel basically is the fit for all option industrially but as you said I’d probably go that little extra being a perfectionist as an amg enthusiast😅, it’s always a joy watching anything w204 c63 related as it’s my most treasured model both length of ownership & modded performance wise !. I was binge watching all the vids as it gives me a lot of info if things go wrong so it gets me halfway to assuming what would of gone wrong .. liked and subscribed mate , I’ll be contacting you in future for your services !👍

is copper enough strong for brake pressure

@sprautos

Ай бұрын

Tried and tested for many many years in the motor trade without issue.

@makantahi3731

Ай бұрын

@@sprautos i have 2 cars with rusted brake lines,so i think how to solve it because oem lines are not availiable

A work of art getting brake pipes bent to fit around all the body and inner wing parts. Why don’t Mercedes use copper pipes?

@sprautos

5 ай бұрын

Steel is just stronger I suppose and it’s our rubbish weather that kills them. They have started plastic coating the steel pipes now.

@paulm3538

5 ай бұрын

I had a Citroen in the 1980’s with exactly the same corroding brake pipe problem. I went to my local Citroen garage and they too made up their own brake lines from copper pipe. They said the copper brake pipes would out last the car… Kinda disappointed that in 40 years of automotive technology ‘advancement’ that this problem still exists.

That underbody looks like it needs some waxoyl treatment in places to prevent corrosion getting a grip . Typical Merc- shameful .

That's unacceptable for a car from 2009

@nuntiusuk3345

4 күн бұрын

Typical Mercedes - shameful