If you have a squad of warcasters, you can even start chaining spells together. DW/Command effectively doubles your action economy.

@PackTactics

3 жыл бұрын

Hello Ronin! I know its you! I did mention warcaster by name but I didnt go into detail. Yeah, you can chain this to an insane amount of things.

@lasonris8934

2 жыл бұрын

Order Domain can cast these as a bonus action If you use bless on your allies they can all get AOO, Voice of Authority

@PackTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Ronin, I hope you see this message. On friday, I'll be releasing the Ghostlance build and you got a shout out!

@M0ebius

2 жыл бұрын

@@PackTactics Awesome! Look forward to it.

@andrewlangone2917

Жыл бұрын

@@lasonris8934 How? Asking for both points.

One very niche use of command was I had a high level barbarian enemy with Rage Beyond Death, and the cleric did "command: relax", ending his rage and killing him

@nucleargoofball8043

2 жыл бұрын

I'm putting this in my notes, hell yeah dude

@givemeanaxe

2 жыл бұрын

Calm is a good one too.

@gggg-hq4td

2 жыл бұрын

@@agilemind6241 ah yes, skyrim

@defensivekobra3873

2 жыл бұрын

Dm's should really not be using PC rules for NPC's, too complicated

@wesleywyndam-pryce5305

2 жыл бұрын

@@defensivekobra3873 dms should not apply rules unevenly. if an npc can do it the pc should be able to do with the exceptions of species specific abilities and vise versa.

i just put fey touched on my cleric, misty step, dissonant whispers, AND a point into wisdom. PLUS a free casting of each is amazing!

@ryancparker

2 жыл бұрын

Fey touched is great for that. I got it for bless on my bard.

@Zack.Knuckles

2 жыл бұрын

The first level spell I took with mine has been Silvery Barbs lmao 🤣(it’s an order domain cleric so it’s got built in shenanigans)

@Living_Life242

11 ай бұрын

Gift of Alacrity gives you most of the Alert feat (+5 vs +4.5 ave.) for 8 hours per day, and you can also cast it with your spell slots to give it to other characters if you want. Sure you can still be surprised and it technically only lasts 1/3 the time as Alert without spending spell slots, but considering this is just 1/4 of the Fey Touched Feat, that’s still pretty good value.

@lydiasteinebendiksen4269

26 күн бұрын

Sure is *sighs in DM*

Another point about Flee is that using their action to Dash away will have effects on that creature's next turn as well. They end up so far away that they'll need to dash yet again to get back into melee range.

@kamilrichert8446

2 жыл бұрын

One could argue that only taking a disengage action is actually not harmful to the target and therefore would take place. Highly depends on the GM

@themalachai6801

2 жыл бұрын

@@kamilrichert8446 the spell specifically says both phrases, directly harmful and fastest available means. The players can choose choose not to use their opportunity attack or they might miss, this means running isn’t a direct harm. Disengage isn’t the fastest available means, they can’t use it while following the flee command.

@themalachai6801

2 жыл бұрын

@Professor Thinker a direct harm would be something like fire, lava, acid, a cliff, or a pit of spikes. something that upon walking into will absolutely hurt you. running past someone who may or may not even decide to attack you, or might miss if they try is indirectly harmful. otherwise provide an example of an action even more indirectly harmful as a baseline

@themalachai6801

2 жыл бұрын

@Professor Thinker there's no RAW that defines what's a direct harm versus what's an indirect harm. That entirely up to interpretation. I gave examples of things that are clearly direct harms, then asked you to provide an example of an indirect harm. Because if you can't indirectly harm someone with the spell then RAW the spell would just say harmful and not directly harmful.

@wesleywyndam-pryce5305

2 жыл бұрын

@Professor Thinker sage advice agrees with the other person. that's all we really have to go on as well. as far as I know "directly harmful" isn't something that was defined in the 5e rules.

Excellent! Calling in the clarifying questions to JC is a very nice touch.

@PackTactics

3 жыл бұрын

I don't want to be wrong. lol

Here's another interesting thought to throw into the mix: the Sentinel feat. Force the target to move away from you, but your allied fighter has Sentinel, hits, and keeps the enemy from fleeing in addition to any other opportunity attacks. Then on the enemy's turn, an ally's Command spell triggers forcing it to flee again, but runs into another ally with Sentinel and possibly Polearm Master to hit 10 feet away the moment it's in range. If combined correctly with allied teamwork in place, the enemy can not only lose its turn each round, but be hit for free just for trying to move!

@tomraineofmagigor3499

2 жыл бұрын

@@agilemind6241 unless the PAM also has sentinel

I love them both, they are awesome. I'd argue command is way better for wasting their action instead of 3d6 dmg but the 'able to understand you' keeps it balanced. As a fiend warlock, (automatically) upcasting command then moving next to whoever failed their save so I can get off a warcaster reaction is encounter ending.

@M0ebius

3 жыл бұрын

Personally I like Dissonant Whispers a tiiiiny bit more because I use it mostly for damage and DW frontloads that damage immediately. But overall Command is definitely more versatile both in and out of combat with great upcastability.

@wesleywyndam-pryce5305

2 жыл бұрын

theres ways to make EVERYTHING understand you. hell theres an argument to be made that if revivify works then you can use speak with the dead and cast command on bodies to "answer"

2:18 I jokingly talked a lot about this in the past how a 6th lv glamour bard has it best because for a minute they could spam "power word piss" aka command piss on a group of enemies and make them waste an action

Heya, I just wanted to say that I really enjoy your stuff, even if it doesn't get many views, it does a lot to help me think about how different spells work, and how to be more effective. Even if sometimes my group doesn't always appreciate me dropping a fog cloud over them.

@PackTactics

3 жыл бұрын

If its a wolf encounter, they will learn very quickly to love fog cloud. Also thank you very much!

I play an aberrant mind sorcerer and twin dissonant whispers every chance I get.

Depending on how your GM rules it, command "sleep" might be a good way to break concentration and waste the enimy's turn. They might say that a creature cant get to sleep in one turn, but if it'ss a magical efect, it could work.

@zimzimph

2 жыл бұрын

Command lasts for only one round, so I doubt it'd work. It doesn't exactly work like Sleep, but it'd be very strong even at higher levels

@kingfail3819

2 жыл бұрын

While it wouldn’t necessarily put them to sleep immediately, they would be magically compelled to attempt to go to sleep by the fastest possible means, which necessitates breaking concentration on spells (maybe even dropping prone into the bargain). So it would be useful in that respect.

@stephenJpollei

2 жыл бұрын

What about "unconscious" or "comatose" ?

@kingfail3819

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenJpollei A Command needs to be a verb in order for it to be actionable. If you could find a way to predicate those words, then you could use them, but the target would still be subject to the same limitations I mentioned previously.

@stephenJpollei

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingfail3819 "You speak a one-word command to a creature you can see within range." . I don't see anything that says it has to be verb. It has to understandable and simple.

Oh wait, I just remembered, I actually CAN show everyone in my lair how adorable you are. Its called posting a link.

@PackTactics

3 жыл бұрын

Yay!

As a DM I love dissonant whispers, gets me everytime. But I'm a sadist and cheer for my players using counter spell.

You and Treantmonk should do a collab video! I think you two would get along really well

@elijahkeytickler

3 жыл бұрын

Haha

@finnianquail8881

3 жыл бұрын

oh shit

absolutely love command, one of my all-time favourite spells, in conjunction with other war casters the flee command is absolutely insane!

@urmomlol1585

2 жыл бұрын

you also didn't mention the "sleep" command, one of my personal favourites

I definitely want more circulation for this video. I am commanded to feed the algorithm.

@PackTactics

2 жыл бұрын

There will be a part 2 to this video with combos with Warcaster but I've been busy lol.

Great video. I have actually started playing using this tactic starting earlier this month, grouping with a Barbarian/Rogue and Bladesinger (using Shadow Blade). Good times. I am playing as an aberrant mind sorc. The benefit of aberrant mind is that psionic sorcery will allow you to more cheaply convert spell slots. Aberrant can use 1 sorcery point per spell level -- so 1 to cast Dissonant Whispers--so for example you can convert a 2nd level spell into to 2sp = 2 casts (vs other sorcs converting a 2nd level into 2 sp and and 2 sp into 1 1st level spell slot). So I can have DS casts for days. And this scales, because the damage here is from your melees who will do more damage as they level.

@M0ebius

3 жыл бұрын

I’m also playing a Hexblade Aberrent Mind right now and Dissonant Whispers is pretty much all I cast after dropping my big gun control spell. I started VHuman Warcaster and just picked up the Gunner feat as well so very Dissonant Whispers comes with an extra dose of reaction Eldritch Blast. Psionic Sorcery is honestly a crazy feature.

@ryancparker

2 жыл бұрын

As a sorcerer you should also twin it if you can

Great choice, Dissonant Whispers GOAT burst spell imo

I can say my favorite moment in d&d was when I used the command "Betray" on a rebel group and the area broke down into infighting not even minutes later.

I am binge watching your videos and they're so good. I had a Knowledge Cleric with Command and it was such a good spell!! Command & Suggestion, some of the best low-level spells!

Creatures cannot disengage when commanded to flee. Flee says they must move away, disengage stickily prevents OA and does not does move you. They must move away and end their turn. Letting them disengage first would be akin to letting them attack then go prone under command grovel.

I love czech language. We have one word for "crawl away" = so your frontlines can get AoO on prone target that will not run away to far for your teammates next rounds.

@PackTactics

2 жыл бұрын

DAAAAAAMNNN!!!!! THATS AWSOME!

6:20: "Let's Imagine a 3rd Level Party... it's your turn Mr. Lore Bard." I literally don't have to imagine such a situation because I played it to the letter on Baldur's Gate 3 where my Bard used his Shatter and Dissonant Whispers spells to take down a bunch of goblins, wargs and a big Ogre on my two melee companions.

I found you from the Interest tab on my recommendation feed. You make good content. Keep it up, I always appreciate a more technical look at things.

I'm really enjoying your analysis videos so far, I can't wait to see where this channel goes. It seems like lots of tactical d&d channels have been popping up lately, and I'm certainly not complaining. My one critique is that almost the entire spell description is underlined, defeating the purpose of underlining in the first place. I would suggest perhaps underlining one portion at a time, or simply cutting down on how much is underlined. Overall really good though, keep it up!

@PackTactics

3 жыл бұрын

Oh? Like who? I would be really interested. I only know Treantmonk and Powergamer Tactics room and I consider them friends. :)

@tyleremery7088

3 жыл бұрын

@@PackTactics Treantmonk has of course been around for quite a while, but Powergamer Tactics Room is relatively recent, as is D&D: Optimized, and now you too of course.

@PackTactics

3 жыл бұрын

@@tyleremery7088 Idk D&D: Optimized, I've heard the name but idk what he values in builds, spells and combos, his content is simply too long for me to sit through but I'm sure hes got some good points. I don't plan on making builds except maybe one just to prove a point but thats in the far future. For now, I want to finish what I have to say about 1st level spells before moving on to other things. I've got about 4 more spells to cover.

@tyleremery7088

3 жыл бұрын

@@PackTactics Pro tip: change the playback speed to 1.25 for his videos and they're not as long, but still perfectly understandable. I do that for several channels and it's great.

I've never thought about forcing opportunity attacks, such a smart application!

I know it might not be as strong as this example of flee, but I personally really like "Grovel" They prone themselves, good for giving the paladin or rogue advantage

I think it is worth notting that this damage comes at a price, notably your allies reactions. - If your DM roleplays the monsters, one thing that prevents them from charging the caster is, no one wants to be the first to take opportunity attacks, even if it is better for the enemy group as a whole. But now that the reactions are spend, it makes sense for the monsters to charge you. - Your allies might have defenses or even offensive things to use their reaction on. Like Uncanny dodge for the rogue, or shield for an eldritch knight fighter, or riposte for a battlemaster fighter. A few melee builds even have counterspell. So before you cast these spells, ask yourself, will my ally need their reaction for something more important. Very good and strong spells for the reasons mentioned in the video, just wanted to give some pointers on when not to use them.

You're making me wanting to play my lock in one of my protégé's campaigns feel too powerful. Thanks😜🤗

This is my favourite 5e English speaking KZread Channel. Wish you all the best!

I love that "forget" one.

Also, starting from 6th-level, Aberrant Mind Sorcerers can cast Dissonant Whispers at the cost of 1 sorcery point, half of the cost it would have been to create a slot for it ( and without using your Bonus Action ), and a third of the normal cost as it gets Subtle Spell for free, making it un-counterspellable.

Dude I wish I’d found you earlier. Your voice is awesome, and your content is phenomenal, really cool ideas.

@PackTactics

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@edwinharbauer2260

3 жыл бұрын

@@PackTactics Of course. This is excellent stuff to know. I’m playing a necromancer bard right now. I never would have thought to have my skeletons attack, use dissonant whispers, and then get another round of the stabbies.

You want a good Verb that isn't vague. "Defenestrate" might be fun, but if you have to google a definition id put it into the "If the target can't follow your command, the spell ends.", if it got past the "The spell has no effect if... your command is directly harmful to it" part of the spell.

I remember doing dissonant whispers with my swords bard, with war caster and magic inciate (warlock, booming blade, blade storm, Misty step irrc) and me and the Barb fecked a troll up so fast, with booming blade attack of opportunity and the Barb's crit from advantage from flanking. It was almost one rounded and the second damage from booming blade made it hit 0 when it tried to re-engage. Wasn't even trying to power game, I was just going with a red mage feel like bard, where he had all these sword techniques.

My favorite is Shadow Touched+Conjunction Wizards for Inflict Wounds.

Hi. 14th level lore bard here. Thanks for confirming my playstyle.

Meriam Dictionary - Definition of *DECONCENTRATE* transitive verb. : to reduce or abolish the concentration of : decentralize.

I'm playing a Hexblade/Shadow Sorlock with War Caster. (3 Warlock/4 Sorcerer) 2 targets on me Quicken Spell>Booming Blade first target )1d8+1d8+5) Twin Spell>Dissonant Whispers on both targets (3d6 damage and flee) Opportunity attack on second target>Booming Blade (1d8+1d8+5) Both targets affected by Booming Blade suffer the effects of moving away. (2d8) Average 74 damage total between 2 targets for 1 1st level spell slot and 3 sorcery points. If they live, they're also far away.

Here is an idea, say a one word command that is a word the creature doesnt know (like a really long and complex word), a caster would likely lose concentration as they attempt to compute the command but dont actually know what it means, like funabalism or Floccinaucinihilipilification, its in a language they know and is one word, the only caveats to the spell, enjoy confusion my friends.

Hahah, I just came up with the perfect Command: Juggle! You start by casting Command and saying Juggle. You follow this command up with your free object interaction and throw them a bunch of juggling balls. They would then proceed to drop anything they were holding in their hands and pick up the balls, starting to juggle. But the best thing is that juggling requires an INTENSE amount of concentration! Anyone who has ever tried to juggle more than one ball knows you need to freaking CONCENTRATE. What else requires concentration? Spells.

If you have both and war caster you can dissonant whisper, then as they walk away war caster op attack command them to approach.

I love my Bard glamour that use booming blade attack action into free command as BA to trigger warcaster BB and deal tons of damages

Interesting thing, the effectiveness of command can vary given the language in which you play.

@isaacmcmanus3666

2 жыл бұрын

I've just realised learning German might be the ultimate minmax move...

Great vid and I have A cool suggestion for the next one could be in my opinion one of the better low level spell burning hands

@nightman8432

3 жыл бұрын

I agree! It's a very good blast spell for early levels and helps to soften up all those enemies!

@sidj.6491

3 жыл бұрын

Witch bolt is so much better smh

All I can think about watching this is paladin + quickened spell command, use your action to unload damage in melee, then use the bonus action to cast command with quickened spell (can take a level in sorcerer or the metamagic feat) and then you can hit them again as they waste their turn fleeing and it's only a first level spell slot! you can burn all the higher level slots on huge smites

A relatively useful word for just about ANY scenario with Command: Sleep. They have to follow whatever you say, as long as they fail and it's a single word. Sleep is so strong here, unconscious, most likely prone, whatever normally happens when something loses consciousness. It's kind of like casting the Sleep spell, but it's not limited based on HP, just what level you're casting it at for targets.

I must feed the algorithm or be eaten myself.

This was rather enlightening.

My suggested word that is not as simple as relax but more articulate and focused on the caster clearing their mind.... "Meditate" it may take a second to talk it over with the dm that to Meditate is to clear the mind and I'd say that casting monks are able to keep concentration for flavour.

I used command to make an Orc commander flee from me in front of his entire army and while they all laughed at him our party snuck away. Complete encounter killer. Gods I love command!

My favourite use of Command is "Defect".

Fun high school humor level combo, use some sort of telepathy + subtle spell, make the opponent take a dump, right then. And no one even has a hint that it might have been you.

My usual combination is a rogue-bard multiclass with this spell and booming blade. According to JC, booming blade doesn't trigger since it's forced movement, but if the guy you used it on is a melee combatant, they need to move or do nothing.

*the witch is flying away Player: "I cast command. (Word) 'COME'" GM: "You hear a moan come from the fleeing witch."

@RJ-1580

2 жыл бұрын

Ex-bard who is now theGM*

In the mountains or anywhere with ledges and drops, command and silent image can be fun. Create an image of some steps leading over a ledge. Command the creature to "go". It's a bit of a challenge with one word though, and might not be clear. I guess you could make illusory walls and a ladder instead? Hrm...

And, even with all you've said, that's just using Command: Flee! Grovel makes them use their action to fall prone and end its turn. A bunch of martials up in their face now have advantage on their 2+ attacks.

Command:drop can stop concentration if the caster needs an arcane focus

You left out the BEST PART of dissonant whispers - read that again: "One creature of your choice within range can hear..." This is amazing! You don't need line-of-sight! You don't even need to see them! My rogue-bard cast this in a fog cloud and devastated an enemy. I was dangling from a broken ladder on Firefinger in Tomb of Annihilation, and cast it on Ptera-folk who were in a cave above killing my friends. I didn't see them, but I knew they were there. I could hear them. They could hear me. When they failed their save it was epic damage. Everyone got opportunity attacks! It changed the battle! I couldn't shoot them or stab them, but I could make an annoying noise!! I could help my friends, even though I was near death hanging from a thread 100' off the ground. No somatic component either-hands-free! Great! This is one of very few low level spell that works against invisible targets, targets in a fog, in darkness, around a corner, whatever. That is so incredibly useful to be able to attack something you cannot see. When you can't stab it, or shoot it, use this spell. Unbelievable at first level spell.

@DarrenNeuman

Жыл бұрын

Blinded? no problem. Captured and blindfolded, head in a bag? No problem. Torch extinguished, broken lantern? No problem. They just need to hear you. So many situation when you cannot see you have literally no options to deal with the enemy. Now you do. And its super effective dpr as well.

lvl 7 Paladin oath of vengeance with tunnel fighter (Unearthed arcana), polearm master and relentles avenger. Free movement on an enemy turn when they provoke an OA. just move 5 feet to catch up to them. They continue to run away provoking another OA. Move 5 feet. Repeat until the enemy dies or is out of movement. Under DM discretion whether you can use unearthed arcana though.

@kevbet9407

2 жыл бұрын

Also command acquiese (to answer truthfully) for early level interrogations. it only lasts 5 seconds but you could get 1 answer.

Gonna have a HARD time picking that extra spell for my Stars Druid at level 4 and getting Fey Touched. There are so many good spells on this list and have ALSO been covered by PT here.

@PackTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Id pick Dissonant whisper to combo with Conjure animals. Its insane amount of damage!

@DDCRExposed

2 жыл бұрын

@@PackTactics Solid combo! Especially after the boar example.

Would like to add the combo it can do with Booming blade. Even solo as a sorcerer hit with booming blade then quicken Dissonant Whispers or command. Profit.

Using command on a conquest paladin is awesome because you can use command to make them grovel. Then fear them causing reducing their movement to zero allowing you to permanently prone them.

Once fought a narzugon riding a nightmare. First I commanded it to "disarm" dropping his Lance which was then picked up by our fighter. Next round I commanded his mount to "buck" throwing the narzugon off. In the end this powerful fiendish paladin became a helpless baby getting pounced to dust when our Bard polymorphed me into a giant ape.

I guess one shouldn't be "Careless" with their Dissonant Whispers. Eh? Eh? :D ...I'll show myself out.

I've never liked dissonant whispers for this reason. My group had a Rogue and Paladin so ever opportunity attack was insane damage already and when they found the combo I was cool at first, but after a short time I realized how bad it could get and how it could ruin encounters so I changed it to consider provoking attack of opportunity "obviously dangerous ground" if the enemy had seen the power of the attacks.

I know I'm late to the party but I wanted to point out that Command requires that you can see the target "a creature you can see within range", while Dissonant Whispers is one of the few spells that does not require you to see the target "one creature of your choice within range". This lets you, for example, cast Dissonant Whispers while inside a Pyrotechnics smoke cloud that you can't see through. Or inside Darkness while your three Tiny Servants who have Blindsight all slap the guy with an opportunity attack with advantage.

I agree on how Dissonant Whispers works, wrt Command: a GM may consider a Disengage to be the best movement for the enemy rather than a dash. If so, yes, it's good to lock down an enemy, but it only lasts 1 round. Because I can't be sure of a GMs interpretation of Dash/Disengage, I'm taking a few buff/debuff/control spells at 1st over Command. At 3rd level, a bard can only have about 6 known spells. You have 2nd level spells so is Command a top 4 or 5 bard spell on the list? You're going to take Dis. Whispers. So now is it top 3? Hideous Laughter incapacitates and gives prone for multiple rounds. Command is guaranteed 1 only. Even if you get 1 round of Tasha's it's even because of the advantage. Sure, action economy wins because they get their hits on 'this round of combat with Command, but with Tasha's that creature is a) getting hit with higher DPR and b) potentially down longer increasing DPR and lowering threat to allies. Bane is probably better as is Faerie Fire. You likely take 2 of those 3 since they all are concentration - Tasha's for single target + Bane/Faerie for multi targets. That's 3 spells right there if we include Diss Whispers. If Bane is better, Color Spray may be better, too. 15ft cone of blinding? Now my allies hit with advantage (yay sneak attacks!) and enemies have disadvantage. And it hits multiple creatures when command only hits one?Pick that up. Now you're at 4. Sleep at low levels is easily better. You're likely knocking out 1-2 opponents for 1 minute each cast until level 3 with a lot of debuffs. 5 Tack on a Healing Word for good measure. 6 1st level spells before I think about Command. And thats not even looking at utility ones like Silent Image or Disguise Self. So *maybe* at higher levels when Sleep isn't useful you swap it out, but at that point I like to swap in higher spells when I level OR Feather Fall because most of us have flying in the midgame and it's fun to be the one who saves their friends from the wrong end of a 20d6 roll.

@vinspad3

2 жыл бұрын

The point I was making is as a Bard, are you going to take Command? And my answer is no. We agree Faerie Fire is great. I disagree that Command is better than Hideous Laughter, but it comes down to what you're trying to do. Are you trying to lockdown 1 creature for multiple rounds on a lockdown or are you trying to do something against a bunch of creatures for 1 round (which takes upcasting). The only reason I would have Command over HL or the others is because it *isn't* a concentration spell. But my point was that you have a limited number of spells as a Bard, and you probably already took Faerie Fire. If I look at non-con spells and I can only take 4, I'm probably taking: Faerie Fire (concentration) Healing Word - Keep the main healer up in a pinch Feather Fall - extremely helpful at Tier 2 when everyone is flying Dissonant Whispers - what the video is about Sleep Around 5th level, I'm swapping Sleep out for higher level spells - Bard has really good 2nd and 3rd level options, so having utility here is better than simply upcasting Command imo. And that's with no ritual spells, no doubling up concentration, no fun RP spells like Illusory Script or Distort Value. Command just never comes into play, and to be honest, neither does Hideous Laughter. Maybe a scroll or if I go fey touched I get Command (but a Bard with Fey Touched probably should go bless?).

Either on an enchanter 10+ is 2 foes potentially running. Apply Spell Mastery to DW, and you get a damaging RUN! cantrip.

this works good for necromancers too, just aline all your undead minions and then send your enemy right into a file of zombies ready to use theyr AOO against them

If I was to choose on of the two for a shadow sorcerer which should I pick

I regret watching this video because relax is so smart I wish I'd thought of it

Actually had a DM that weirdly nerfed DW by making it not use up the creature's reaction. It still made you move if you failed the save, doing so just didn't use your reaction for the turn. This meant that, even if the creature had already used its reaction, it would still be forced to move away. However, that had the side-effect of not only making it so the spell no longer eats the creatures reaction for the turn, but also meant it no longer triggered an AoO. We were all okay with this because none of us were using the spell; The DM was, because of a reoccurring NPC who used it as a legendary action. He didn't want us to waste our reaction at the tail-end of our turn, so he just changed how the spell worked. Needless to say, if your DM rules it this way, the spell is not nearly as good.

@francescoviselli6386

2 жыл бұрын

To move he must use something like its movement or he got a free something? And if so how far does he moved?

The Yo-Yo: 🪀 • Undead Warlock / Aberrant Mind Sorcerer (Dissonant Whispers) • Fey Touched (Command) • Dhampir • Form of Dread Active • Action = Eldritch Blast + Grasp of Hadar + Agonizing Blast • Bonus Action = Quickened Dissonant Whispers • Reaction = Opportunity Attack with Vampiric Bite • Reaction = Silvery Barbs if target makes save (No OA) and opponent flees • Opponent must make Wisdom Save or be Frightened of you until the end of your next turn If you start as an Owlin, you can also fly 10 feet above an opponent and this Grasp of Hadar to pull this up and drop them for falling damage. Switching to Dhampir at a later level results in the following: • Proficiency in Stealth from Owlin remains • Darkvision reduced to 60 feet • Flight, Walking, & Climbing speed all increase to 35 feet • Spider Climb is permanent and concentration-free at 3rd Level

command "dash" if they have teleport. Sure, they can dash toward you, but if they can teleport, odds are they are a spell caster and dont wanna get further into enemy lines.

Command: Brainfart End concentration (DM dependent as to if it's one word or two, but hey. Rule of Cool.)

Question: I am highly considering Fey Touched as a L4 warlock. Would Command be a better option than Gift of Alacrity? Especially as GoA can be pre-cast then short rested during "breakfast" for the spell slot back?

@PackTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Gift of alacrity is better but Command is also a very strong option.

@elizabethw7698

2 жыл бұрын

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@PackTactics

2 жыл бұрын

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Once told a bandit to strip then shot him with my crossbow because his AC plummeted. Also more or less guaranteed laughter when it happens. Good luck!

What do you use to make those maps? With ogres having hp and etc etc

I'm going to take fey touched! At level 4 on my cleric and warcaster at level eight I'll have command and dissonant whispers thanks

I have always thought that the best command word for a cleric or paladin would be "Repent!"

go order domain so you can cast one of them as a bonus action

I dont like that you underestimate command. Dissonant whisper is very good early but later, you dont use those spells for the damage but for action economy. In addition you could learn words in down time activities. I recommend giving up dissonant whisper for better spells at higher levels and boosting your command spells by having a dictionnary of command words in other languages.

I use command panic on spellcasters with my DM's ruling they suffer from frighten condition and can't concentrate on spells

As a lvl 5 Great Old One Warlock I only get 2 spell slots and they're both lvl 3, so I can only cast this with a lvl 3 spell slot (I think), meaning it'll do 5d6 damage. That seems pretty strong. Is it worth taking?

The rogue doesn't get sneak attack in your specific example. The ogre has moved 5 ft away from the fighter before the rogue gets the OA, so she doesn't have an ally within 5 ft of the ogre when she gets the OA.

In a ship battle I like command parlay on the captain

Command: Auto-Defenestrate

In command, I rule generating AoO is harmful, so enemies use disengage. For dissonant whisper, it’s fair game

tried finding a bunch of sound bites to put together cause in our campaign were having duels to see whos the strongest. i just scared the shit outta myself by playing on the wrong video

@Pact Tactics • An Aberrant Mind Sorcerer with the Warcaster feat casts Mind Sliver on an armored opponent within 5 feet, who fails their Intelligence Save • The Sorcerer then casts Dissonant Whispers as a Bonus Action using Quicken Metamagic, and the creature again fail its save • The Sorcerer then casts Shocking Grasp as a Reaction using an Opportunity Attack, targeting the creature with Advantage due to its armor, and hits How does this all resolve? Does the creature still move away, since it lost its Reaction?

@PackTactics

3 жыл бұрын

I would imagine it would work like how Sentinel feat works, the creature stops in place. But you would have to ask the DM, he might have a different interp.

@lucasramey6427

3 жыл бұрын

I mean they already lost their reaction from fleeing from you via dissonant Whispers you can't remove what's already been used

@alanschaub147

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucasramey6427 I believe the combination still works. My question about the reaction does not really matter because they use their reaction to flee, which triggers Warcaster. It seems like a good tactic if you end up in melee range.

@lucasramey6427

3 жыл бұрын

@@alanschaub147 yeah but you just won't get the reaction removing effect so I would recommend opportunity attack mind Sliver that way you can already set up for when you cast another save spell

@alanschaub147

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucasramey6427 That’s pretty good! 👍🏻

I'm thinking it ought work with a Verdans limited telepathy at that silently. Before anyone naysays and goes rules lawyering Thri Kreen can and have cast vocal spells that aren't even directed at anyone in particular for decades. A one simple word command directly into the synapse of anything with an int of 3 or more capable of expressing a thought. Shouldn't be that big of an ask

I've used Command in conjunction with the word 'Betray' suddenly a baddie is attacking it's friends instead of your friends.

in that case would dissonant whisper trigger booming blade damage?

@PackTactics

3 жыл бұрын

"Its reaction" doesn't count as forced movement so yes it will. 4:38

@lucasramey6427

3 жыл бұрын

@@PackTactics actually it is counted as forced movement but since they are still using their movement opportunity attacks apply since that doesn't need to be willing movement just them using movement so the secondary effect of booming blade isn't in effect since it's forced

A good command to make casters lose concentration: "Daydream" - the recipient loses concentration and it's turn ends.

Command: strip! Made my party giggle because i behaved like a degenerate and my dm mad because bbegirls plate armor disabled her for 50 rounds doffing it while we killed her men and then helped her undress to half the time it takes.^-^' Worked a little better than Command: drop because she also needed to do that to follow the command. DM noticed his mistake afterwards thou, that the spells duration is only 1 turn and he should've just made her not get the fullplate bonus anymore by droping her helmet or so.^-^

College of glamor can do both.

I twinspell dissonant whispers, pretty much ends the encounter if both enemies fail.

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@PackTactics

3 жыл бұрын

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Consider the word "freeze" - if you're lucky you might've just given your enemy the Paralyzed condition for a whole round, granting universal advantage, automatic Str and Dex save fails, and free melee crits Also, if you're playing Eloquence Bard you've got a fun feature which lets you make your speech intelligible to any creature (up to Cha mod), though that does cost an actions, so it may be suboptimal.