I really like my Freelancer Max as I can fit in either an STV or Mule at the cargo tail end and still able to carry 120 SCU of cargo at the same time! Truly versatile in my opinion! 😁

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

That's what these ships are best at! Jack of all trades!

Excellent video. It's a topic that I am sure has been covered several times before, but I am always curious to see more viewpoints. Besides, the combination of the no-frills format, very pleasant voice, and highly relevant info, makes you one to look out for in the future. o7

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you so much for the kind words. I'm glad that you find my videos succinct, it's definitely something that I value. Hope to catch you in the verse! o7

the moment they patched the turret strut glitch the freelancer won the show

Cutlass Black side doors can also be used to get back into the ship, as long as you're on even ground. In uneven terrain it won't work. CiG really needs to give these doors a ladder. A number of times I locked myself out by landing on difficult terrain.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Don't want to count the number of times I've climbed up my own armor boxes to get back into my Cutlass side door :)

@konellin189

10 ай бұрын

@@Space-Tech Neverthenless its a good way to go out and not get hijacked...I am not wondering if CIG gets the gimmick ready to tractor beam own guys up there lol

Excellent vid, liked how you made the 'what vehicle fits' segment informative but also brief and easy to follow :) Of the 3 I'd like the Cutlass, Though I personally fly a Freelancer MIS.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you found the video useful! Since you enjoy the MIS, have you used the Connie Andromeda much?

Thanks for the info earlier in game!

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped you out man :)

im genuinely astonished you dont have more subs, great reviews and overviews, detailed yet concise, quick but understandable, one of if not the best reviews and reviewers i've seen!

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

You don't know how much these kind words mean to me, thank you so much for the support! Also, feel free to let me know if there is anything niche or specific you'd like to see me cover as well! :)

@Friendlynuker

Жыл бұрын

@@Space-Tech this isn't really a video idea just want some confirmation. i bought the cutter and want to upgrade it to the cutlass black, what would i keep from the cutter? (like lifetime insurance and the hangar)

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

@@Friendlynuker Assuming you are talking about using a CCU, you would keep everything that came with that pack came with. That means you would keep Lifetime insurance, Your game package, Squadron 42 if that is packaged in etc) I will say if you are planning on putting in new money to get this upgrade, take advantage of the Warbond CCUs in the store to save some money! I can explain how to chain those together to get some savings if you'd like :)

@Friendlynuker

Жыл бұрын

@@Space-Tech i appreciate it so much, I'm not looking to spend too much just around $100 so this works out, also does that include the hangar? and does the hangar matter? again you're amazing and thanks :)

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Ok! So a couple things, first up the Hangars don't matter right now, but yes the hangar will also be included. 2nd welcome to CCU chaining! If you directly buy a ship upgrade from your cutter to the Cutlass Black, it will cost you 55 dollars. Instead if you purchase a series of CCUs itll cost you 45. You'd buy the Cutter to Cyclone MT warbond edition, then Cyclone MT to cutlass black. It'll save you those 10 dollars :) if this is too much worry for 10 bucks don't worry about it and just get the Cutter to Cutlass Black CCU

I have a Freelancer Fur which is nice that it makes its own fuel and is a quantum sipper but handles like a snail. I love my cutty because I can basically launch from the pad and get to quantum in under 10 seconds depending on atmosphere.

Excellent video, thank you for making this. I feel like they're both great ships with slightly different strengths. The Cutlass leans more towards combat drop ship (get off planet with the cargo) where as the Freelancer feels more blockade runner (armored truck with teeth). I don't think you can really go wrong with either it just which way your play style leans.

One thing to note when comparing is that the Cutty can transport only one Prospector worth of quant from the refinery while the Freelancer can do two at a time. This makes the Freelancer much more desirable if you are a miner. (Though I still like the Cutty overall)

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Very true, I should have mentioned the prospectors mining SCU as a reference as well. Good point!

@ottodeluxe

Жыл бұрын

With how "lucky" I get with 30k's, pirates and whatnot, I would not load more than one Prospector's worth of refined quant at a time anyway. I'd be way to salty if I lost two trips worth, when I could run less risk by doing another trip. However, if and when we get PES, and when mobile refining becomes a thing, those "small-to-mid" capacity haulers will have their time to shine. When you have say 3 prospectors, 1-2 of the refinery ships (forgot their name) and want to sell, then the freelancer max will be hard to beat in price/performance ratio for that case. I just do not like its handling and paper thin hull.

@iamjeramy

Жыл бұрын

@@ottodeluxe A good mining day will be about 8-10 loads of quant. you really want to make 8 trips? no thanks!

finally a reviewer who knows what's important

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you found the video valuable, thank you for the support!

You didn't mention that only the Cutlass has a Tractor Beam and you can buy a fancy Pirate Paint. Great Video, thx.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

I've largely only been referencing factors that are in the game right now, but you're absolutely right that should be called out at the start of the video! Thanks for the comment :)

Another great review 👏

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

For the Mining game Play the Freelancer MAX doubles as your main cargo hauler for refined goods and main cargo hauler for the ROC. With each reset you can easily get into the loop by working up to a prospector and MOLE. You really should not risk hauling any load bigger than what a max can carry to the TDD unless you have so much money it does not matter loosing a million dollar plus load.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, I think the value provided by the MAX has grown on me more and more as time has gone on. A really good all rounder to start with after a wipe!

You and Law have some of my favorite ship review/overview videos

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Its awesome to be referenced beside Law. Thanks so much! If there is anything specific you'd like to see me cover, definitely let me know!

@BadTactics101

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree.

@adstryker5084

Жыл бұрын

Excellent review -- you covered the actual practical differences, some of which I haven't seen in other reviews.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

You're too kind, thank you.

Last time I checked, I was able to fit an URSA in my Free MAX. CiG said that they intend to retract the turret struts in an overall and they removed collision on those in the meantime. I haven't tried to load up an URSA in a good while tho ... I'm using the C2 whenever the need arise :D

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I was actually unaware unaware that they had removed collision on the turret struts thay poke down into the cabin so an URSA does fit now! Much like you, the C2 has definitely become my transport of choice, however! Wonder how many can go in a C2

@aioshan653

Жыл бұрын

@@Space-Tech It can actually fit 2 ursas in a line a bit tight but still leave enough room to get out the backs and wiggle along the side to the crew hold. but it is a tight fit. The main fit on the max if doing so is ursa rear and the roc or stv foward so this way you can do a quick load n switch of the 2 if needed.

From experience, this is what I've found about the Cutlass Black and Freelancer: If I want a ship to just fly around and do whatever in, I'll opt for the Cutlass. It's just easy getting in and out of it, and it maneuvers much better than the Freelancer. But when it comes to doing NPC bounties or something with fighting involved, I find that I have zero fear of fighting in the Freelancer with those 2 shields. The weapons are as powerful as the Cutlass, but now I'm suddenly not afraid to stay in the fight. The Cutlass isn't bad at fighting, but that one shield is a pain, and if you get one of your VTOL engines blown off, that's it. Game Over. Aesthetically, I love the Cutlass more, but there's something to be said about the Freelancer feeling tankier, like I can take on anything and not get shot down.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Very much identify with your experience myself! I think that more limited visibility in the freelancer actually adds to the feeling of tankiness. I must say that the ease of getting in and out of the Cutlass definitely plays a role with how much I enjoy using it as a daily driver :)

@IXxJordan

Жыл бұрын

Cutlass has a split shield so getting hit from the sides there is no shield protection, so something that can out maneuver you can take out those engines pretty quickly and is one of the huge glaring issues with it - especially things that fire missiles, they seem to home in from the sides and are usually direct hits on the engines if they get through

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Split shields actually still provide full coverage for a ship, it's just divided into the front and back half, there are no ships with intentional shield holes, yet. The graphic shown on the MFD is actually pretty misleading. But yes those engines can get shot off quite easily in battle, unfortunately

@IXxJordan

Жыл бұрын

@@Space-Tech Ahh, that is really misleading - I was thinking it was say stronger at the front and back with nothing at the side, surprised that isnt a thing yet for like boarding etc

@mr.fabulousmegardev6256

9 ай бұрын

As someone who wants to do bounties and PvP in a freighter-ship, I agree that the Freelancer series can joust much better than the Cutlass because of those shields. Also your larger silhouette will inevitably make you an easier target to focus on for group fights, so more shields is good. And if the baddies see you seem to survive too long and begin targeting your buddies, you can hit back surprisingly hard! Overall, while I would normally like to have the Freelance MAX for the larger cargo space, the normal FL has more armor, so it'll last much longer in a fight. Better alive though suboptimal than dead and waiting for claims haha

I have a Freelancer MAX and an Ursa Rover does fit inside the cargo bay along with a 2u box inside the Rover.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

You're absolutely right, it looks like they made those struts that hang down from the turret intangible, so the URSA turret fits right through it. Good catch and thank you!

I haven't had any issue fitting an Ursa in the Freelancer max. It'd probably fit two. Otherwise good vid :D

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I hadn't seen that they had updated the Turret struts to not hit the URSA turret anymore, good to know though! Also, thank you for the comment :)

I own a Cutlass Black. Bought because it can haul a ROC. With my focus being aimed far more to mining than anything combat related. It's likely to be a long time before I even try to target another ship. I have my sights set on purchasing a Freelancer Max. Because it can also haul a ROC-DS and it holds enough cargo to handle at least 3 full runs from a Prospector. Which means I could spend more time mining and less time hauling. From a cargo hauling standpoint I don't currently see the purpose or value of flying a C2. That's a whole lot of cargo space and not all that often you can expect to find enough product to fill it to make a good profit.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Solid reasoning there, I think you're right about the C2, unless hauling is your primary profession or you need to carry vehicles, it's definitely overkill

@draconusspiritus1037

Жыл бұрын

Admit freely I do like the LOOK of the Hercules. And fully plan to eventually buy an A2 if only to play around in the Halo to try and launch one of those MOAB's at an asteroid lol. I suppose a C2 (or A2) would let me do a LOT of mining before heading off on a sales run. But DANG, that would be a lot of product.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

You'll be able to rent an A2 in a week or so during IFW! Also, I believe that the bombs on the A2 can sadly only be launch in atmosphere :(

@draconusspiritus1037

Жыл бұрын

@@Space-Tech I know the bombs are non powered lol (insert sad face). So I know in orbit they won't just drop out like they would in atmo and targeting something on the surface. What I'm thinking is to be flying toward the target, release the bomb, then boost (strafe) up to get clear of it. Then either stopping or turning aside and hopefully watch it drift to the target via inertia.

A strength of these ships is how they mix with mining. The Cutlass Black can carry one ROC, with space to walk around it. The base Freelance can carry two ROCs, but no space for walking around in back, but you can mine with a friend. The Freelance MAX is easier in this respect. When using a Prospector or Mole, the base Freelance can carry two good loads of Quantainium, or three more normal loads. With nearly double the capacity, the MAX is even better in this respect. The Cutty Black? Use it to earn enough for a Freelancer.

The Freelancer is my favorite of the 3, but I fly a Freelancer MIS as my daily flyer. A little excited and a little worried what it might look like after gold pass. I bought my MIS before it's last major makeover and miss a lot of it's original features.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

CIG does tend to make better and better ships as time goes on, so hopefully it keeps its current charm while still using it's space better!

@TechHead12_

Жыл бұрын

@@Space-Tech I've been "playing" since 2014. It has been crazy to see new ships come in alongside neglected ships of the past haha

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Its always confusing for a new player to walk around a starfarer lol, now that ship really needs its gold pass

I like my Freelancer MAX because I have to run refinery jobs to TDD's. And the range and capacity, properly equipped, of the MAX is better than the Cutlass. Moreover the MAX can fit into small pads and hangars, the same as the Cutty. Finally, the Cutty has no other real entrance but the ramp, and as I had a unwelcome guest in my MAX using the ramp. I now use only the ladder for entry to my ship on transport runs. The Cutty tips really easily in heavy winds, as I discovered on my maiden ROC mining excursion. Now, I only use a Nomad for ROC mining, the anti-grav landing gear stays put even in heavy winds.

Freelancer max rear looks like that ship from lilo and stitch, the red one Jamba uses

The max can fit medical ursa + roc That opens infinite roc mining loop

Unfortunately, a ship thief can place a box next to the Cutlass side doors, hop up, and clip through them as though they are not even there. So I value the Freelancer because its doors are properly impassable, and the entrance near the cockpit closes itself up when I exit. Having a second shield generator and gimballed size 3 guns is also nothing to sneeze at. And the extra SCU space actually comes in handy for moving refined quantanium (or RMC if you're assisting with salvage). It's a shame about the Lancer's mail slot cockpit view and its gunner's range of movement, though. And its agility in atmosphere is pretty mid.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Completely fair! You make a great case for the lancer, and I didn't even know about the phasing through the Cutty doors. That's a huge shame :(. Do you find yourself preferring the Freelancer or the the MAX? Thank you for the comment!

@alvarg

Жыл бұрын

true but cutlass in atmo is also pretty shit, and neither one of these ships would fair all that well in atmosphere. against each other it would be anyone's game, against an actual light/medium fighter you'd be a sitting duck in atmo

Thanks for the video! I kind of wished you would have compared the Freelancer MIS as well in this video. And in the vehicles section I kind of expected that you would mention the ROC. Or wasn't that out yet when you made the video?

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it! I'm planning on making a breakdown of all the freelancers soon in a big head to head.Honestly, the ROC was just an oversight on my part since I was/am very new to content creation haha, that being said it's definitely top of mind and I appreciate the suggestions!

@_ircghost

Жыл бұрын

@@Space-Tech Really good video for someone who is new to content creation!

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

What do you mean by gimbled? Also if your starting with 1 of these ships, which ships would you be working towards as logical upgrades towards "end game"? Thank you

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

You can place most weapons on gimbles which allow them to autotrack enemies within a small radius in front of you, instead of you needing perfect aim. To see if you have gimbles already you can just hit G on your keyboard. The tradeoff for using gimbles is that you usually need to go down one size gun to equip them. For example you can run a size 3 fixed gun, or a size 2 on a gimble.

I haven't played very recently but me and my buddies can squeeze 2 ROCs in a Freelancer max, makes for a very efficient 3 team mining team

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

As profitable as prospector mining is, there is something really special about unloading mining vehicles from a bigger ship and going to work!

@lint3067

Жыл бұрын

@@Space-Tech 100% Agree, its just fun and a bit more relaxing than space mining. Doesnt always have to be about the most profitable method. Especially when the currency and ships get wiped with each major release :)

@the_omg3242

Жыл бұрын

If you can drive reasonably well, you can put 2 ROC's in a standard freelancer. You need good steering and speed control because it barely fits between the hydraulic cylinders for the ramp and your tires will have to drive over the little diagonal at the bottom of the door, but it fits. The front one has to go in facing forward while the rear one has to go in facing backward. There's no way to get past them so after loading the rear one, you have to close the ramp from the outside and use the side entrance to get to the cockpit. (or you can just stay in the ROC seat till your buddy lands the ship and opens the ramp from the cockpit) The trick is to make sure you're centered on the ramp and go slow which is easy to do with a stick or a controller and very hard to do with a keyboard. That said, while ROC's do fit in a Freelancer, it's much easier with the Max.

You absolutely can fit a rover in the back of a max, you can fit a rover and either a cyclone or a roc, two cyclones, or possibly three ROCs

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Yeah my memory was from before they fixed the interaction with the turret struts. As soon as I can get back to testing I'll be pinning a comment with my results :) thanks!

how do you fet the foundation paint for the freelancer?

@Space-Tech

9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately you can only get it once a year during the foundation festival. I can hand it to you in game if you want to use it until it gets wiped next patch?

@benjima100

9 ай бұрын

@@Space-Tech i was more wondering which activity allows you to get the paint, and does both the trainer and the trainee get the paint?

@Space-Tech

9 ай бұрын

Ah I see, I believe it was for the "missions" profession. Also yes, both the trainer and the trainee receive the paint :)

This videos format was great but you missed massive important aspects. You didn't write how many rocs it could fit in the vehicle section. You did say it earlier. You didn't mention the freelancer has double the shields or show their turning rates. The statistic that tells you how agile they are would be a very big deal. And the ships size difference makes a big difference for combat. You take a lot more shots in a cutless black then any starter ship purely from its size

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Always trying to improve! I very much appreciate the feedback and will make sure to have this in my next comparison.

@VoltKraken5555

Жыл бұрын

He did show the shields in a chart, and also the acceleration rates. 5:09 5:45

If you only want to haul cargo, get the Lancer. If you want to do anything besides cargo, get the Cutty.

You really did not mention the Greycat ROC in the vehicle carriability????? Why? That was the whole point for watching your video for me 😅 For those, who wanted the answer for the same question: Cutlas Black - yes, Freelancer - Yes, but not recommended because it is janky, Freelancer MAX - Oooohhh, yea

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry it must have totally slipped my mind. I appreciate you putting the information here in your comment :) thank you!

The normal Freelancer can also easily hold an ROC. It basically fits perfectly

i got a cutlass based on this video but you should have added that they are bugged and you need to rebuy the weapons everytime you claim the ship that is kind of a deal breaker bought those guns 12 times in 24 hours and i aint making any money due to it

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

This video was made months ago when they weren't bugged unfortunately :(. That being said, CIG is actively working on a fix for this issue. Also, that bug is sadly affecting all ships, not just the Cutlass as far as I know

The base freelancer can carry an roc just can't walk around it but the freelancer has a side entrance anyways

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Technically it can, but personally I find the fit to be a bit too risky, and a bit too easy to get the ROC stuck inside. That being said, I'm sure there is a way to really get good at getting the ROC in with enough practice. Going to go try some more myself!

@robertjt_

Жыл бұрын

@@Space-Tech it's not risky at all it's easy you just drive in slow using the ramp as a guide there's been changes to make them fit better

I do wounder how the Spirit will change things.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

I'm planning on doing a more speculative head to head between the Cutlass and the C1, are there any other match ups you'd be interested in?

@davidlister7590

Жыл бұрын

@@Space-Tech I would love a run down of the medical ships but since the RSI Apollo's are not in i do not think its worth it yet.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

We know a good bit about how the Apollo ships are going to be laid out regarding their medbeds, but their drone capabilities are truly in the air for now. I'll give it some more thought and consider if I can bring some value to that discussion :) thanks for the idea!

The Freelancer's guns are gimballed because the whole side section rotates up and down right? There's no varipucks to take off to upsize your guns like on the Avenger? I'm looking to upgrade from the Titan and wanted something that could store some vehicles, at least a Dragonfly but I'd rather a Fury, but also be able to output tons of damage. I'm starting to get to the point where the TTK on stuff like Valkyries in PVE in my Titan is unreasonable, and I don't want to necessarily get in hour long fights with Hammerheads, even if it's possible to kill them in a Titan. Everything points to the Cutty Black, and knowing it has 6 missile racks is insane, but I would like something with at least some S4 firepower.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Off the bat, are you looking to purchase in game with AUEC? Personally I think cutty black and freelancer Max are the no Brainers but between those two I can come down to preference. I personally enjoy the Cutlass Black's low claim time and how fast it is to get in and out of! Of course, you get much much more cargo in the MAX. If this is largely for PvE and it's with aUEC I'd definitely recommend saving up for a connie of some sort! The taurus is unbeatable for solo players

@tekwerk

Жыл бұрын

@@Space-Tech I was thinking of upgrading my Titan pledge, both the regular Lancer and Cutty Black are $50 more than my warbond which ain't bad. I tend to check in on SC every 6 months or so for a week or two, so I don't really ever grind ships. I'd just like to have something I can fly on my own that would also be fun if a buddy wanted to try free fly, and can fit a vehicle in the back. The Titan's pretty much perfect for me as is but it gets really boring to just dick around in the empty cargo hold if you're trying free fly.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Ahhh, then I think you'd have the best bang for buck with the Cutty Black! Has a coolness to it as well :) You can fit almost any vehicle outside the very largest in the back of it. That being said, both this and the freelancer can be rented for very very cheap in game so you can rent both and see which one you prefer! If you click the "try free fly" button during the current free fly you'll get access to a cutty red, and a freelancer so you'll know how they fly :)

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Just checked, Freelancer upgrade is also 10 dollars off right now! Plus you get some armor and a tractor beam if you use the warbond CCU to save you those 10 bucks :)

@tekwerk

Жыл бұрын

@@Space-Tech Sounds good, thanks for the info

Freelancer max is King!

you can do drug runs, so you can make a lot

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Theyve actually become great for that kind of trading now!

@steinmayer2791

Жыл бұрын

@@Space-Tech yes they are easy to open like a can

5 months ago

If you don't put your freelancers guns on staggered, your using it wrong

Msr might be better than both

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

I can definitely see that! I almost see the MSR as a Connie competitor instead :)

then C1 spirit comes along and shits all over this.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

I can't wait for it!

Freelancer Transport-------Cutlass all ??? we are comparing an excellent truck with a war tank ???

Incorrect on the Ursa. The Max can fit an Ursa easily.

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Yup, they fixed the issue with the turret struts thankfully :)

Freelancer Max over the Cutlass anyday

@Space-Tech

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough! Much bigger ship, so much bigger cargo :)