Cucumbers, Melons, and the Myth About Cross-Pollination

Have you ever wondered if your cucumbers and squash would cross-pollinate and produce some strange, bad tasting fruit? Find out when you can plant your crops next to each other and when to keep them away...
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  • @Lucy-yp1bm
    @Lucy-yp1bm9 жыл бұрын

    This is my first garden. As a new gardener I planted lots of cucumber, cantaloupe ,and watermelon in the same box. I thought my cucumbers were not growing, till I found this strange cucumber cantaloupe mix. I thought they were just baby watermelons with a strange pattern. They look like round grapefruit size melons , till you cut them open and they are cucumbers. I bought seeds on discount at Walgreen's so not sure how this happened .

  • @Shelzbells
    @Shelzbells2 жыл бұрын

    Very well put, This is great information and you explained it very well.

  • @jaredno9458
    @jaredno94585 жыл бұрын

    Plants in the same genus can occasionally interbreed, even if they are not the same species. The offspring will be sterile, but looking into polyploidy and colchicine will help you be on your way to making them fertile. Many species have been made like this, coffee for example, coffee arabica (which accounts for 60% of all the worlds coffee produced!) is the result of hybridization between diploids Coffea canephora and Coffea eugenioides.

  • @tobylegion6913

    @tobylegion6913

    7 ай бұрын

    I´d say more often than occasionally. Maybe not generally, but there is a decent chance (Sure, depends on which species specifically). And some might be sterile, others are defintily not sterile. We have plenty of multigenartional hybrids, often from multiple instead of just two species. Just look at citrus fruits, their lineages are weird.

  • @susanhanifin3397
    @susanhanifin33976 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for answering my question about planting pumpkin, n zucchini next to each other. Since I'm not saving seeds, I'll be good.

  • @freddieivory625
    @freddieivory6253 жыл бұрын

    Great info, thank you

  • @valeriesanchez3074
    @valeriesanchez30743 жыл бұрын

    I want to be a mad scientist and cross pollinate flowers with vegetable plants

  • @edwindysinger3017

    @edwindysinger3017

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually, most all vegetables flower.

  • @corteltube
    @corteltube3 жыл бұрын

    Great video..thanks...

  • @mikelovetere4719
    @mikelovetere47195 жыл бұрын

    Great answer on the cross polination

  • @lockwoan01
    @lockwoan016 жыл бұрын

    Interesting.

  • @calikmbd
    @calikmbd9 күн бұрын

    I have living examples of cantaloupe and Hami melons that are obviously a cross between cucumber and melon. The seeds were in my compost bin. After about a year or so I emptied the compost bin into my garden. Within a couple of weeks some plants appeared that resembled some kind of melon/cucumber, both with big yellow blossoms. Both cucumber and cantaloupe blossoms are very similar so I had no idea what was growing. I decided to let them grow, and before long I saw what looked like perfect cantaloupes and very fat cucumbers with smooth light green skin. The cucumbers are actually delicious but the taste of the melons is disgusting! Inside they look and taste very much like a cross between melon and cucumber. Flesh is hard, barely orange with very bland taste. I've never grown cucumbers or melons in my garden, and since the seeds grew from the middle of the compost pile, must have come from melons and cucumbers I ate in the past year or two. I would think the growers of these two fruits and vegetables wouldn't be planting seeds that could have been cross pollinated, but I don't know that as a fact. However, according to this video, the cantaloupe and cucumber are different genus and are not able to be cross pollinated. I'm confused!

  • @corteltube
    @corteltube3 жыл бұрын

    I had a volunteer spegetti zucinni...not sure that is possible......but it was so weird...actually I harvested it and it was pretty good...

  • @paulchao3965
    @paulchao39654 жыл бұрын

    i grow thai melon with honeydew and korea melon. I end up having 3 varieties of thai melon from the original melon. The first (1) is the green meat thai melon with creamy meat and the green skins or slightly yellow skin, second (2) the slightly yellow and red hard meat with bright red skin (no creamy), and finally (3) the yellow skins with yellow meat, slightly hard meat but creamy. I end up like the second variety thai melon with hard meat and slightly sweeter. ANother is the korea melon, after i save seeds. I grow and received something not like the korea melon or any melon. It is slightly small melon and skins turn a little yellow green, but very sweet.

  • @corteltube
    @corteltube3 жыл бұрын

    I will subscribe

  • @richardmcdonald7565
    @richardmcdonald7565 Жыл бұрын

    save seeds if you have the space. You could go into HOW to save seed... even when you grow them near each other... If you don't know about this, you might consider learning about hand-pollinating.

  • @jeffwoodman5995
    @jeffwoodman59958 жыл бұрын

    One of my garden perversions was a cucumber looking green flesh juicy tasteless melon. I believe I used store bought seeds and this was the result.

  • @seedtimeplanner

    @seedtimeplanner

    8 жыл бұрын

    That's unfortunate Jeff - so sorry about that. If you are using store bought seed and this is your first growing I'd definitely check into the seed source since it won't be a result of cross-pollination in your garden. One seed company we highly recommend and that we've had really good results with is Johnny's Selected Seeds. Another to try is High Mowing Organic Seeds. Hope this helps!

  • @jeffwoodman5995

    @jeffwoodman5995

    8 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your reply. The weird ?cucumber? I grew was from a store bought start from a box store like home depot. I now use seeds of change for my starts unless they do not have the particular type plant I desire. I have downloaded all your short videos Thank you for making them available.

  • @seedtimeplanner

    @seedtimeplanner

    8 жыл бұрын

    Jeff Woodman You are welcome!

  • @Bubby1100
    @Bubby11005 жыл бұрын

    Great subject. Not so sure that it's accurate information. This year, we used nothing but fresh seeds. Our cucumber plants have been creeping along beautify but now one is bearing fruit. They are plump, round, fuzzy and about half the size of a cantaloupe.

  • @louisacapell

    @louisacapell

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly why I came to see this video LOL. My cucumbers have grown round balls that taste sweeter than a regular cucumber! And they're yellow

  • @JGardenNY

    @JGardenNY

    4 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely, I had the same thing happen to me.

  • @lucassantanalima
    @lucassantanalima3 жыл бұрын

    hybrid of watermelon and melon should be delicious right

  • @benjaminclavedc6132
    @benjaminclavedc61324 жыл бұрын

    does cucumber and bitter gourd cross pollinate?

  • @seahippies
    @seahippies4 жыл бұрын

    As we attain wisdom, as opposed in some cases by 'Academic training,' we learn to look beyond the text books of mainstream schools and universities. We can look at what 'resonates' or our 'gut feeling'. Ancient cultures as seen in all countries and cultures are seldom taken into account by modern science and discarded as old wives tales etc. Thousands of years of this type of farming and being in tune with nature should never be discounted as 'pseudoscience' but embraced as a holistic approach to agriculture. Monsanto/Bayer for example has profited by trillions of dollars teaching 'Modern farmers' to use products that simply avoid the true NATURE of agriculture....Thank you for sharing

  • @jamestownsda
    @jamestownsda9 жыл бұрын

    Paul, would hand pollination help to prevent cross pollination?

  • @seedtimeplanner

    @seedtimeplanner

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Nicolas Rodriguez Depending on how it was done it can help to prevent cross pollination. You would have to somehow keep insects from pollinating certain plants which could be very hard to do. I believe hand pollination can be pretty successful with corn on the other hand which is normally wind pollinated.

  • @graders16
    @graders164 жыл бұрын

    This is my first year gardening. I got my plants from the nursey watermelons, squash, and cucumbers. I planted them next to one another. I have melons looking like squash. Can you tell me what went wrong? I really need to insert a picture to show.

  • @belindaroadley

    @belindaroadley

    4 жыл бұрын

    Most likely is the nursery messed up labelling. But deformations in fruit can make them look like unrelated fruit (eg a cucumber with poor pollination might grow looking like a crookneck squash). Nothing to do with cross pollination. Remember that cross pollination will only ever "show" when you save and grow out the seed. So if you've got a cross-breed plant from a shop, it's the grower that messed up, not you. ;D

  • @popai500000
    @popai5000004 жыл бұрын

    If I hand pollinate cucumber with bottle gourd ?

  • @mrrj7004
    @mrrj7004 Жыл бұрын

    I wanna correct you I had a cucumber next to a squash and it came up to be a yellow cucumber so it was cross With my squash.

  • @jamesofallthings3684
    @jamesofallthings3684 Жыл бұрын

    You guys keep spamming ads for a product that doesn't exist.

  • @nicholebrown9487
    @nicholebrown94878 жыл бұрын

    Crazy question I have grow zucchini and acorn squash and we some how got as my husband calls it zuchicorn and this also happen to my mother in law. It happen the first year we were not keeping seeds how did this happen and how do you keep it from happening again.

  • @jpatt710

    @jpatt710

    8 жыл бұрын

    There is no way that your plants produced cross-pollinated fruit the first year unless the original seeds themselves were the product of cross-pollination. To prevent this from happening again you should go to a different seed supplier because the seeds you got were already cross-pollinated.

  • @nitinjain8837

    @nitinjain8837

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the cross pollinated seeds fell from the vine and germinated?

  • @matthewpeever8166
    @matthewpeever81662 жыл бұрын

    What if I want to create weird cross species?

  • @alexthai2456
    @alexthai24564 жыл бұрын

    why cross pollination and not pollination.... when cross pollination is needed and when pollination is needed???? which plant can cross pollinate and which can’t??? please respond soon.... thank you

  • @garygrimes3155
    @garygrimes31553 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure squash and cantelope does cross pollinate, everytime I planted them close they yeilded some gourd looking fruit, inedible, no squash or cantelope just gourds, happened 3 times, don't plant cantelope anymore.

  • @garygrimes3155

    @garygrimes3155

    3 жыл бұрын

    The reason I looked this up on you tube is to see if anyone else has had this issue, and I found this video.

  • @dianacarrizales8892
    @dianacarrizales88922 жыл бұрын

    If bees fly to both squash and cucumber flowers, will that pollinate both.

  • @Growyourheirlooms

    @Growyourheirlooms

    2 жыл бұрын

    They can pollinate both, but the two won't cross pollinate

  • @andiamador7156
    @andiamador715610 жыл бұрын

    I saved what I believed to be acorn squash seeds (I didn't write what they were on the bag. I thought I would remember) but that is what I think they are. I had acorn squash and butternut squash last year. I have strange plant and fruit on vine now that I grew from saved seeds. The vine and flowers look like cucumbers, but the fruit so far looks like a smooth light green symmetrical oblong and it is getting big fast. I have been looking to find answers to what probably happened. I think acorn and butternut. If that is what happened, I think the fruit should still be good. I may have to plant each every other year to avoid this. Does anyone have experience in this sort of cross?

  • @seedtimeplanner

    @seedtimeplanner

    10 жыл бұрын

    Hi Andi - it shouldn't be a cross between acorn and butternut as they are from different plant species. What would be more likely is if it was a cross between acorn squash and a summer squash or zucchini since they are from the same species. Did you grow either of those near each other?

  • @andiamador7156

    @andiamador7156

    10 жыл бұрын

    Born to Grow I did, but they were 30 and 60 feet away from the acorn squash to have them far apart from each other. and so puny I discounted their potential contribution.. They did have many male flowers and I have many bees that visited. That is what happened, I guess. How far away should one plant? Or should people stagger their plantings every other year or three years to avoid this, I wonder? Saving seed is a priority for me.

  • @andiamador7156

    @andiamador7156

    10 жыл бұрын

    Born to Grow I borrowed a camera and uploaded a video of it. I am new to that too. You or someone may tell me what it is, and if it is even hybrid or something else I saved seed from. Thanks.

  • @believethepromise

    @believethepromise

    10 жыл бұрын

    Andi Amador Yes this could likely be what happened. The recommended distance for no cross pollination is anywhere from 1/4 mile to 1 mile apart. This might not be practical for you and so you could stagger growing different squashes from different species each year. For instance there are several species of squash such as mixima (hubbard squash) moschata (butternut squash) pepo (pumpkins, acorn squash, summer squash, zucchini) and mixta (cushaw squash). So if you want to grow winter and summer squash in the same year and still be able to save the seeds - then you could grow a butternut squash and summer squash and would be fine. Just remember the acorn squash will cross with the summer squash and so if you are set on having acorn squash you may need to skip a season of summer squash.

  • @seedtimeplanner

    @seedtimeplanner

    10 жыл бұрын

    Andi Amador Yes this could likely be what happened. The recommended distance for no cross pollination is anywhere from 1/4 mile to 1 mile apart. This might not be practical for you and so you could stagger growing different squashes from different species each year. For instance there are several species of squash such as mixima (hubbard squash) moschata (butternut squash) pepo (pumpkins, acorn squash, summer squash, zucchini) and mixta (cushaw squash). So if you want to grow winter and summer squash in the same year and still be able to save the seeds - then you could grow a butternut squash and summer squash and would be fine. Just remember the acorn squash will cross with the summer squash and so if you are set on having acorn squash you may need to skip a season of summer squash.

  • @the_golden_bough8541
    @the_golden_bough85412 жыл бұрын

    When I grew cantaloupe next to cucumber the melons were hellacious. Devastatingly horrid taste.

  • @MyChilepepper
    @MyChilepepper4 жыл бұрын

    I cross pollinated female gourds with butternut squash males flowers since the gourd plants had nothing but females.

  • @cookingonadime8799
    @cookingonadime87993 жыл бұрын

    I call BS to this! I planted cucumbers next to watermelon one year and got mini watermelons rinds and outside stripes of a watermelon but very clearly cucumbers inside on ALL plants. Both the watermelon and cucumber plants produced the exact same fruit.

  • @cookingonadime8799

    @cookingonadime8799

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've also been able to reproduce this effect multiple times from multiple seeds from multiple stores and brands.

  • @timgleason2527

    @timgleason2527

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not to sound stupid, but are you sure they weren’t just unripe?

  • @tobylegion6913
    @tobylegion69137 ай бұрын

    He is sooo confidently wrong. What he is talking about is crossbreeding varieties. Hybridization is between species. By definition. And while it isn´t viable for all species within a genus, within plants it is quite common. Going even further: We know of viable, fertile, wild inter genus hybrids. For example: Snakes within the tribe of Lampropeltini are known to interbreed on occasion. Intergeneric crosses between any combination of Pantherophis, Pituophis and Lampropeltis produce viable, fertile offspring. And as stated before: Animals are generally harder to cross breed. So, even if they Cucumbers and melons are not able to cross-polinate ( I doubt that they are unable to do so ), calling what he has explained here an oversimplification would be an understatement, because of how common hybrids are. The majority of our crops are the result of hybridization.

  • @louisacapell
    @louisacapell5 жыл бұрын

    I don't think this kid is 100% right. Right now I'm looking at cucumbers that are cucumbers for about 1 inch and then balloon into great big giant yellow balls. They are sweet on the inside and only have seeds in the very center of the ball

  • @belindaroadley

    @belindaroadley

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nothing to do with cross-pollination. What you've described is what happens when a flower is poorly pollinated, the weather is hot, or there's too much fertiliser. :)

  • @louisacapell

    @louisacapell

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@belindaroadley I've never heard of anything being poorly pollinated. Aren't things either pollinated or not? And since this post was a long time ago those cucumbers turned out to be very sweet and more melon flavored. I don't know what they were they were supposed to be regular cucumbers but they certainly weren't. And you don't get that from anything you've described.

  • @belindaroadley

    @belindaroadley

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@louisacapell When the ovules of the flower are fertilised, a hormone is released that stimulates the division and growth of fruit cells. If none/some of the ovules are fertilised, the fruit will either abort or be misshapen (the skinny parts represent areas where the ovules weren't fertilised and failed to produce seed). Though, it sounds like the seed you grew from might have been a cross. There are A LOT of cucumber varieties out there, and not all of them have a classic cucumber taste. So, probably a more exotic cucumber variety with poor pollination. :)

  • @louisacapell

    @louisacapell

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@belindaroadley sorry, can't agree. These are things gardeners have known and witnessed for time immemorial. We aren't all just stupid. Read through the comments. Are we all just uneducated, can't believe out lying eyes.....or our repeated experiences.

  • @belindaroadley

    @belindaroadley

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@louisacapell I wasn't calling anyone stupid.... Many people can witness something, but it's the causation that is uniformly speculated. If I get hayfever every time Plant A is in flower, I'd be forgiven for thinking that Plant A was the cause of my hayfever. But then it's scientifically proven that I'm actually allergic to Plant B, it just happens to flower the same time as Plant A. Learning the science of botany helps us find correct causations. I'm sorry if I came across as belittling in any way, I only commented in an effort to share information I happen to find fascinating. I love botany. :)

  • @CreepingThyme
    @CreepingThyme3 жыл бұрын

    This is bad info. I have been gardening longer than you have been alive & have some horticulture background. I have had watermelon cross with cucumbers, watermelon cross with zucchini and other things. All seeds where bought from a reputable seed company. Some of them were planted 20’ apart.

  • @bhismilinirampersad5628
    @bhismilinirampersad56283 жыл бұрын

    am I cool

  • @jamesbullen4557
    @jamesbullen455710 жыл бұрын

    Corn and cucumbers is what i do

  • @andiamador7156

    @andiamador7156

    10 жыл бұрын

    is there some particular reason you planted corn and cucumbers together? I planted corn this year and cucumbers were near by. Both of those did well this year. Second year of it, and soil was slightly improved. Last year I had cucumbers only and they were a fail.