Crop Factor TRUTH: Do you need Full Frame?

The same lens produces different results on cameras with different sized sensors. As a result, it can be tough to cross-shop Micro Four-Thirds, APS-C, Full Frame, and Medium Format cameras.
Crop Factor is a conversion that makes it simple to determine the exact results you'll get with any given lens, regardless of your camera's sensor size. By multiplying your camera's crop factor by a lens' focal length AND aperture, you can determine the full-frame equivalent angle of view, depth-of-field (background blur) and a good estimate of the low-light noise.
Here are common crop factors:
1X: Full-frame cameras like the Nikon D610, D750, D850, D5, Canon 6D, 5D, and 1D, Sony a7, a9, Pentax K1
1.5X: APS-C cameras like the Nikon D7200, D5300, D3400, Sony a6500, and Fuji X-T3
1.6X: Canon APS-C cameras like the Canon 7D, 80D, 77D
2X: Micro four-thirds (M43) cameras like the Panasonic GH5, G9, and Olympus E-M1, E-M5, and E-M10
For more information and to see the previous crop factor and equivalency videos, see sdp.io/crop.
To get an outside opinion, here are articles and videos by other people on the same topic:
www.dpreview.com/articles/266...
petapixel.com/2017/03/29/disp...

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  • @nrmpt9903
    @nrmpt99034 жыл бұрын

    Every photographer: You don't need full frame, it's you, not the camera. Every photographer: Has a full frame.

  • @hjer731

    @hjer731

    4 жыл бұрын

    There are a few photographers who shoot APS-C and MFT for the small size and weight.

  • @Caradoc1991

    @Caradoc1991

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hjer731 And there are some, who shot medium format, or even large format. Everybody should use that camera, what suited well for the actual job, and fits into the budget. Argue about sensor size leads nowhere. Pick up that camera which you like to use, and take pictures. If the result is good, nobady will ask, what gear you used (maybe some room phothographer, who sitting behind the monitor and read DxO scores).

  • @2NeedForSpeed2

    @2NeedForSpeed2

    4 жыл бұрын

    I also shoot with an A6000 crop sensor, another reason I wouldn't got for a larger sensor is the photo file size being twice the size at around 43mb per shot rather than 22mb haha.

  • @MultiDeivas

    @MultiDeivas

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@2NeedForSpeed2 It's the resolution, not the pixel size that affects file size. You can have a 32.5 megapixels aps-c camera which produces larger photos than something like a 24 megapixel full frame.

  • @looneyburgmusic

    @looneyburgmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Totally untrue. When I made the jump full-time from 35mm film to a DSLR I went with a APS-C camera, and have been totally happy and content with the results I can get, especially when using older, "vintage" glass. Someday I'll most likely upgrade to a full camera body, but I'm in no rush at all.

  • @blxckbear9
    @blxckbear95 жыл бұрын

    What I learned today is that you can skip your math class if you have a full frame camera.

  • @921buzz

    @921buzz

    5 жыл бұрын

    I thought the SAME EXACT THING!!!

  • @CorwynGC

    @CorwynGC

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nope, you can skip the math regardless of which crop factor camera you have, as long as you only have one crop factor. If you have a Micro-4/3, you get used to the angle of view that each of your lenses gives you. Who cares what the same focal length gives on a 35mm camera? Have you ever worried about the angle of view of a 90mm lens on a 4" x 5" view camera? Didn't think so. Only when you are COMPARING camera types and lenses do you need the math.

  • @DBW-Media

    @DBW-Media

    5 жыл бұрын

    LOL! This is true.

  • @moisescugat3948

    @moisescugat3948

    5 жыл бұрын

    Actually you need more maths. You need to do maths to save much more to be able to get the lens, you need to do lots of maths to calculate how much can you carry with you for the amount of distance you have to walk... Crop sensor?? that's a piece of cake, you will need the maths for the rest. FF has a lot of advantages, but maths is not one.

  • @SenXu

    @SenXu

    5 жыл бұрын

    ...and take PE or Chiropractor class instead since the full frame gear is gonna be heavier and bad for your back.

  • @vinaybhide8763
    @vinaybhide87633 жыл бұрын

    This is honestly THE BEST tutorial I've seen on this very topic. I found myself constantly pausing and rewinding to soak in all this fundamental knowledge which was explained so well!! Thanks a lot for this Tony!

  • @TonyAndChelsea

    @TonyAndChelsea

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @ninelaivz4334

    @ninelaivz4334

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TonyAndChelsea Hi Tony, you confused me when you said that the image from the 50mm lenses is the same size for each sensor size, that they are just the same size cut-outs of the FF, @2:25. First, you said they look magnified then you said that they are not. Yet wildlife photographers use APS-C sensors because it gives them more reach for a smaller lens due to the crop factor. I understand the image cast on the sensor is the same size for the same focal length lens for those three cameras but it changes by the amount of the crop factor when the image is viewed on the computer screen. Is this correct?

  • @suan_pan

    @suan_pan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ninelaivz4334 you can think of smaller sensors as just cropping the image of larger sensors to “zoom in”. However high end aps-c cameras will have higher pixel density than full frame cameras, allowing for an image that’s more “zoomed in” but still of high quality

  • @britishboxer6875

    @britishboxer6875

    2 жыл бұрын

    you realise Tony Balongi fooled you with this little puppet dad (who cut him off) you can't get the same results with a real person cause you need to take a huge 4 meter distance to fit a person into a cropped sensor camera (just for a portrait) so by the time you reach the distance the perspective compression kicks in, no bokeh and the person may appear fatter

  • @akpal8741

    @akpal8741

    Жыл бұрын

    Bc.

  • @olgakoshevaya7056
    @olgakoshevaya70562 жыл бұрын

    By far, one of the most helpful videos on the internet today discussing crop factor conversions. So well delivered and love that cinematic look with great lighting in this video!

  • @KobieMC
    @KobieMC5 жыл бұрын

    I've been arguing the whole FF vs APS-C thing forever. I'm an APS-C shooter. I remember when I got hired under contract for editorial automotive photography. In the job description they stated "must have Full Frame Camera". I figured, nah, I'll let my images speak for themselves. Long story short, when they saw my samples, they immediately asked which FF camera I was using, was it Nikon or Canon. When I told them it was an APS-C Pentax, they couldn't believe it. I had my camera with me so I showed them. They still couldn't believe that I matched their shooting template with no FF camera. I told them if you know what you're doing, the camera format doesn't matter. This was a great explanation Tony, you nailed it!

  • @DarkPa1adin

    @DarkPa1adin

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol job description features a format?

  • @KobieMC

    @KobieMC

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DarkPa1adin Yup. I mostly see the following. " Must have Full Frame Nikon or Canon". "Must shoot Canon". "Must shoot Nikon". "Must have Full Frame Camera". They get very specific which is too bad since it limits the talent they can get. Just because the hardware matches the description doesn't mean you're a good photographer. But you know the saying... "Wow! That's a nice camera! It must take really nice pictures!"

  • @Bill-NM

    @Bill-NM

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kobie... Good for you... But... :) you actually did not produce the same images with aps-c, as that's, physics-wise, impossible... What you DID do was produce outstanding images that were good enough for the employer. I agree that the finished image is all about the photographer... But all else being equal, if you had used a full-frame camera, the image would have been better (more bokeh, less noise). We all just need to be aware of how good an image needs to be, and not just assume that we have to use a full frame camera to produce acceptable images.

  • @KarimHosein

    @KarimHosein

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Bill-NM , automotive photography typically requires a DoF deep enough to engulf the vehicle, and often a few background objects, and sometimes a foreground object. Trust me, one does not need an F-type for that, and he probably nailed it thoroughly. I know no automotive photographers who shoot F-type at f/4 or wider, except in very rare instances. Even very bokehlicious images can be taken with an f/4 lens on an APS-C body, and f/2.8 is far more than enough.

  • @terryd8692

    @terryd8692

    5 жыл бұрын

    'must have FF camera' doesn't mean you have to take it along on the shoot, as long as you have one.

  • @luomoalto
    @luomoalto4 жыл бұрын

    I’m an optical engineer and lens designer. Everything you said was exactly correct. Kudos! 👍

  • @marcg3923

    @marcg3923

    4 жыл бұрын

    he said size of sensor does not affect brightness then why did he divide the iso also?

  • @cured_bacon647

    @cured_bacon647

    4 жыл бұрын

    Marc G a full frame sensor has more dynamic range but not necessarily more brightness.

  • @TechnoBabble

    @TechnoBabble

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because larger sensors produce less noise because they have more area for gathering light, therefore a FF camera at ISO 1600 produces about the same amount of noise as a M4/3 camera at ISO 400 because it has about 4x the area for gathering light.

  • @77appyi

    @77appyi

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@marcg3923 the brightness is the same for all sizes of sensor (if same exposure) so its the same brightness per square MM on the sensor or whatever area measurement use,,,,,its just with a bigger sensor there are more square MM of the same brightness ..so adds up to more light overall

  • @luomoalto

    @luomoalto

    4 жыл бұрын

    Marc G He was trying to get the same DOF so he had to change F/#. That changed exposure. So to compensate for that he changed the ISO.

  • @bertsole7278
    @bertsole72783 жыл бұрын

    As always, complex things appear simple to the real experts. And you do have a phenomenal talent to teach. This makes this video so valuable. It is informative, and enjoyable at the same time. Thank you!

  • @kowalski8

    @kowalski8

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow

  • @andreapepe
    @andreapepe6 ай бұрын

    This is hands down the best photography tutorial I have ever encountered! The most thorough, honest, conprehensive and methodologically sound tutorial ever. This is pure gold! Well done!

  • @smaakjeks
    @smaakjeks5 жыл бұрын

    Can you feel that? That electric sensation in the air? That's the emotional tension of 10 000 gear nerds anticipating the tiniest perceived mistake as Tony talks about crop factor.

  • @AadidevSooknananNXS

    @AadidevSooknananNXS

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hahahahaaaaa

  • @koolkutz7

    @koolkutz7

    5 жыл бұрын

    I am sweating nervously as I watch ;-)

  • @CarlosMenciaTT

    @CarlosMenciaTT

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shhhh i can hear them coming

  • @KarimHosein

    @KarimHosein

    5 жыл бұрын

    IHe did make a mistake twice, -the same mistake, in about a two second window- but I will not even bring it up, as it is immaterial to the entire video. Wonder who will first bring it up? On a different topic, I disagree on the Edison thing, and I can say why, but it is also immaterial, as it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.“Crop factor” is a brand new term. The old term was “Enlargement factor.” Same issues, different values. That's all.

  • @Nicos_archive

    @Nicos_archive

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm just waiting for the "Nothing of this matters! There are more important things than gear."-people. It was a big mistake not to mention that.

  • @sidersproductions941
    @sidersproductions9414 жыл бұрын

    I came here to learn about cameras and this dude tricked me into doing math.😂😂 You slick fox.

  • @andysuzierawlins5462

    @andysuzierawlins5462

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know right......never thought algebra had any use after high school lol

  • @looneyburgmusic

    @looneyburgmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    You really don't need to worry about the math unless you are intentionally trying to replicate with one format the results of another. That's the real hook in the whole "Full-Frame vs. Crop" debate - it doesn't actually matter. If I'm shooting with my Nikon D7500, (APS-C sensor), I'm not worrying about matching up the resulting shot with what I could get with my Canon 35mm, or a full-frame body. I'm looking to capture the best photo I can get with the 7500, so I frame the shot accordingly.

  • @bahaatamer1245

    @bahaatamer1245

    2 жыл бұрын

    Y'all gonna be surprised when you see Complex Numbers. In engineering, mathematics is pretty much EVERYTHING! For real though, it's inevitable that you're always gonna end up forced to take the hard way in life. That's just how the world works

  • @Robinshahidullah

    @Robinshahidullah

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @keithkreatives

    @keithkreatives

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@looneyburgmusic EXACTLY what I was thinking this entire time. "Why are we even talking about this? Just know that anything smaller than a full frame has a crop factor....position yourself accordingly". This shouldn't even cross a person's mind unless they commonly shoot both type cameras, back to back.

  • @TaylorHudson
    @TaylorHudson3 жыл бұрын

    I've been shooting on an APS-C for 6 months, and I was today years old when I learned crop factor applies to aperture as well...

  • @mrspine4405
    @mrspine44053 жыл бұрын

    The way this man has explained those things is second to none. Perfection

  • @OnceUponAnotherTime
    @OnceUponAnotherTime4 жыл бұрын

    One more equation: Apply crop factor to your budget. :)

  • @gutenbird

    @gutenbird

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not everyone can afford a full frame. They are expensive. But you'd probably be better off investing in a full frame and less lenses up front than spending money on several lenses and getting a cropped sensor.

  • @user-fz9go8pj4t

    @user-fz9go8pj4t

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gutenbird but also the ff lenses are more expensive than aps-c or m43 lenses...

  • @gutenbird

    @gutenbird

    4 жыл бұрын

    So what is your overall opinion? I'd say your budget is going to be the biggest factor but I'm pretty confident that I am correct that you can't ever really get the benefits of a full frame simply by using shorter lenses. It simply doesn't work that way. It's like someone telling you how to defeat the house at gambling.

  • @77appyi

    @77appyi

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gutenbird often FF is cheaper....if you apply crop factor .a FF 24mm F2.8 lens is WAY cheaper than a 12mm F1.4 M43 lens

  • @mejbishow5297

    @mejbishow5297

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gutenbird i'm so broke i can only get something under 200

  • @ucevrim
    @ucevrim5 жыл бұрын

    I feel like I have to buy his book just out of respect. There wasn't even an ad on the video.

  • @HopePhotoG

    @HopePhotoG

    4 жыл бұрын

    There are ads but i like that its photography related and not some random loud music ad for booze or something haha.

  • @ralphjasperjose6176

    @ralphjasperjose6176

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why aren't you on top?

  • @afoak4981

    @afoak4981

    4 жыл бұрын

    As I read this an ad popped up...

  • @georgestobbart4894

    @georgestobbart4894

    4 жыл бұрын

    3 ads on mine

  • @oliverizzard8751

    @oliverizzard8751

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean ... it was blurry but did you see this man's house? I'm sure he'll live why don't you give some money to food banks instead they need it these days.

  • @jonathanphilips3760
    @jonathanphilips37603 жыл бұрын

    This is the best video I have come across on this nerdy topic and behold it was as crystal as could be, without missing a single point. Amazes me that you didn't read it out of a script ! Couldn't be better. Extremely well done ! Watch this alone multiple times so you don't ever get confused about it lest forget it !

  • @boredgrass
    @boredgrass3 жыл бұрын

    There's someone who also is a very good teacher! A pleasure to watch, time and again!

  • @SteveGergetz
    @SteveGergetz4 жыл бұрын

    This is the first video I've seen from Tony, but I'm blown away. Learned more about photography in the last 20 minutes then I have in hours of other videos and reading. THANK YOU! SUBSCRIBED!

  • @davidmoore5915
    @davidmoore59155 жыл бұрын

    This is, by far, the best explanation of crop factor that I have ever seen. Next time a friend asks me about it, instead of trying a bumbling explanation I'll just give them the link to this video :)

  • @JoeMaranophotography

    @JoeMaranophotography

    5 жыл бұрын

    But Tony didn't mention full frame's crop factor next to medium format. I mean might as well go the whole hog right? 😁

  • @MrKikoboy

    @MrKikoboy

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's because medium format "gathers too much light " and needs to beaten down to full frame quotients...

  • @joedow873

    @joedow873

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's how fake news are spread.

  • @Tr1gg3e

    @Tr1gg3e

    5 жыл бұрын

    The lens takes in an image as light and focuses it in a circle, the sensor sits inside the middle this circle. Given the same lens, the sensor size will determine how much of the circle is recorded in the image, giving the appearance that the image is zoomed in.

  • @mardanananak

    @mardanananak

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JoeMaranophotography Use the same math for medium format.

  • @simonrutherford5738
    @simonrutherford57383 жыл бұрын

    As a retired professional photographer this is a great video that explains the difference between the different sensor sizes. Good job guys.

  • @huzaifazkansa

    @huzaifazkansa

    21 күн бұрын

    What difference between full frame and APS-C I want to knows these things because I love full frame everywhere is focus I believe full frame is this because I really really need a photo.

  • @huzaifazkansa

    @huzaifazkansa

    21 күн бұрын

    Because I have watched not all the videos but I see APS-C IS GOOD compared but I want a picture for example in pictures it have 10 people I want all them is showing good and I want a picture everywhere is showing because it needed when a people Is working like all there tools they use is showing well for knows which tool they have or use too and all other there tools they have too in these cameras focus all things in the pictures to shows all things like this or for example in a picture of a showroom where sell lot of technologies take a photo but they are not only take human picture but other like all these technologies too what you suggest us to use full frame or APS-C .ME I WILL do an album of lot of picture but massively lot of picture for my mother because she has been missing me a lot and lot I believe every pictures of me for her will ease her crying because like 20 years she has not seen but in these 20years she met me she only care for me .

  • @paulverma9770
    @paulverma97702 жыл бұрын

    I have recently moved from Crop DSLR to Full frame Mirrorless and have been really appreciating your videos. This one is especially AWESOME. Thank you

  • @troywalt4834
    @troywalt48343 жыл бұрын

    Finally understood all this after two years learning about photography, I don't know how to thanks you enough, you are amazing.

  • @CalMukumoto
    @CalMukumoto5 жыл бұрын

    Truly, explaining things like this is Tony’s distinctive competence. Well done.

  • @jdanishevsky1
    @jdanishevsky13 жыл бұрын

    Great explanation and recommendations Tony. I have been shooting with APS-C and getting great results, having been told that I am not getting what full frame would give me, but I always tend to think and feel that I work with what I have and make the best of it. You explain it so well and to the point of how the results can and should be the same at the end, if you do everything correctly or to the best of your abilities. Thank you. Great review and explanation.

  • @RedPillTruth2023

    @RedPillTruth2023

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. Also, Tony and Chelsea are superb teachers. They know the material, and put in the time to explain it correctly for all of us. They are a treasure

  • @huzaifazkansa

    @huzaifazkansa

    21 күн бұрын

    What difference between full frame and APS-C I want to knows these things because I love full frame everywhere is focus I believe full frame is this because I really really need a photo.

  • @huzaifazkansa

    @huzaifazkansa

    21 күн бұрын

    Please help me in explaining me these things please I want to knows please please. 🙏

  • @kadenwitt
    @kadenwitt3 жыл бұрын

    I've been shooting for a few years with an APSC camera but I never though that you would apply the crop factor to the f-stop as well. Seeing it in the video makes so much sense, loved the video

  • @MaryD321
    @MaryD3214 жыл бұрын

    What a great and informative tutorial this is. I love that you used actual DATA to support your statements and gave unbiased feedback about all different sensor sizes. Thank you so much.

  • @SJWOLFE87
    @SJWOLFE874 жыл бұрын

    This is seriously the best explanation comparison video I've seen! So many others' videos just aren't up to par with Tony's in-depth and technical coverage.

  • @johnnixon1026
    @johnnixon10262 жыл бұрын

    you just saved my sanity! i was going nuts trying to figure out which size DSLR camera to go with! i can not believe how you have taken the complex and made it simple! incredible! thank you SIR

  • @toddswain7459
    @toddswain74592 жыл бұрын

    Great discussion. One of the best (and most complete) explanations I’ve ever heard about the actual difference between the platforms. As you illustrate, they are all capable; Just know your tools and what you’re trying to accomplish. Thanks! Earned my sub today.

  • @wgungl
    @wgungl5 жыл бұрын

    That is the most complete explanation of this topic that I have ever heard or read. Great job!

  • @samacochan
    @samacochan5 жыл бұрын

    There have been a lot of tutorials online on this same subject. This one is simply the best. Illustration with different gears and results and very well explained. Thank you.

  • @mikebanks4796
    @mikebanks47963 жыл бұрын

    Man, bravo Tony! This explanation is 👌. I just picked up my first full frame camera, the EOS R with the RF 24-105mm f/4 but was a little hesitant because it’s f/4. After some shots though, the bokeh is actually pretty good, even though most KZreadr’s will have you thinking you need a $2,200 f/2.8 for bokeh. My RF f/4 bokeh is similar to my crop sensor f/2.8’s and that just didn’t make sense, so I came to KZread and found your video. I’ve always understood full frame vs. crop factor with focal length, but had no idea about it applying to aperture too! This video was super helpful in giving a clear and proper explanation of the difference between full frame and crop sensor. 👍

  • @patrickiredale4359
    @patrickiredale4359 Жыл бұрын

    I also love the absence of an (unnecessary) intrusive musical background and the addition of printed on screen information, which enables one to pause and study. Very professional.

  • @MikaLatokartano
    @MikaLatokartano5 жыл бұрын

    Possibly the best, clearest video on this subject.

  • @sureshlingabathina
    @sureshlingabathina4 жыл бұрын

    Hail Tony, this the only video I have seen full on KZread. Scientific with practicals, can not deny, rules out every unnecessary assumptions. Except high ISO and low light conditions. These factors manageable. Some what not comfortable with wide photography with APS-C. Tony has extraordinary knowledge.

  • @DimarRFS
    @DimarRFS3 жыл бұрын

    This video is so solid, packed with knowledge, no small talks. Thanks so much!

  • @sojourner57
    @sojourner572 жыл бұрын

    Great video. My initial move to full frame though, was based on cost. Coming from micro four thirds, I found that wide angle lenses were incredibly expensive. The Sony Alpha 900 with legacy Minolta lenses was MUCH less expensive. Now I’ve moved to 1” sensor with a bridge camera that while certainly NOT the quality of full frame, it’s far cheaper than an interchangeable lens kit of equivalent focal range, and the quality is fine FOR ME.

  • @handshakevideo
    @handshakevideo4 жыл бұрын

    Best explanation of crop factor ever. I know the video stayed away from pixel counts, but one point in favor of large sensors if they have lots of pixels that isn't mentioned is the increased capability to enlarge and crop. Here's an extreme example. While editing I've found subjects in nature photos that went unnoticed when I took the photo, but because the photo was taken with a large format, high-pixel-count camera, I was able to make a good image at 1620 x 1080 pixels out of an image that started at 7952 x 5304 pixels. Not great for printing, but beautiful on-screen where we see most of our photos these days. If I'm doing the math right, that resulted in a 5 x zoom factor. That took my 124mm exposure and presented a 620mm onscreen image.

  • @paulwright3261
    @paulwright32615 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Tony. We appreciate your expertise, honesty, and objectivity!

  • @marinosvafeiadis2655
    @marinosvafeiadis2655 Жыл бұрын

    As usual you address misconceptions in the most straightforward, simple and scientific way. Really great video, thank you. I still think though that a smaller sensor may have an advantage when you need more light but deeper depth of field is required as well (e.g. group of people in low light).

  • @kevywilliams3304
    @kevywilliams3304 Жыл бұрын

    EXCELLENT VIDEO !!!! How many times I’ve seen people say crop sensors are crap compared to full frame .. wish they would know we get off our butts and back up and actually use composition lol

  • @kingicarus77

    @kingicarus77

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it's more because you don't have to deal with so much math and uncertainties with the crops, while the full frames you know from get-go what lens to use, know what u get from said lens AND a full frame has way more features lenses and support. Now I'm not saying crop= bad, there are professional crop bodies out there BUT if you want to do anything professionally having a full frame is so much easier to deal with than a crop IMO.

  • @vperalta
    @vperalta5 жыл бұрын

    Tony, this is my first comment ever on KZread. This video has clarified the crop factor conundrum for me. I have watched the many videos, including the one you did a while ago that started the heavy and sometimes nasty debate. Being an owner of a Canon 80D, I was concerned I had made a mistake in my purchase, but now I have this large weight lifted from me and has also reinstated my trust in you. Thanks so much.

  • @AlokSomani
    @AlokSomani5 жыл бұрын

    Great video. We love to talk about this stuff as gear heads, but this video is the bottom line truth and very informative -- more helpful than just arguing for one sensor or system over another.

  • @215tabby
    @215tabby3 жыл бұрын

    This explanation was the best one I've heard so far! Thank you!

  • @chris_harry
    @chris_harry2 жыл бұрын

    That was a brilliant, yet clear explanation of crop versus full-frame. Well done! I support you both and many others, some of whom are detractors, but I think all of the experienced photographers on KZread worth their salt have something to offer. Sometimes you just have to filter out the noise

  • @flickcine
    @flickcine5 жыл бұрын

    Ah! THIS explanation is better. I tried explaining this in a video but definitely did not do it as much justice as this! Thanks so much, Tony!

  • @IsaacYuen
    @IsaacYuen5 жыл бұрын

    This is the best video explaining the relationship between crop factor and background blur.

  • @almohithossain1719
    @almohithossain17193 жыл бұрын

    You are an excellent presenter and very smooth in your delivery of speech. Amazing.

  • @johnnuske2878
    @johnnuske28782 жыл бұрын

    I have put off watching this episode for quite a while. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and found this episode valuable. Again a big thanks!

  • @usafromad1
    @usafromad14 жыл бұрын

    Okay this video got my subscription. I’ve been watching yours and Chelsea’s videos for awhile. You helped me pass my part 107 exam. Thanks for that btw. But this was an excellent well calculated explanation. Outstanding work here.

  • @HussardTV
    @HussardTV5 жыл бұрын

    I admire you for finding the energy to record the same video over and over again.

  • @edmsn5339

    @edmsn5339

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Carl Ryan Which is wierd, because i consider the nr of likes to be proof of that.

  • @TheOneMonk

    @TheOneMonk

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hussard TV Yep, he is on a mission with this subject.

  • @thorrensmart

    @thorrensmart

    5 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @edmsn5339

    @edmsn5339

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Carl Ryan Somehow i seem to be able to get through life without "crop ISO" and "crop aperture"...

  • @jwxujerry

    @jwxujerry

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you produce a video over and over again and get 150 k views each time, I will call that a big success.

  • @nikolaki
    @nikolaki3 жыл бұрын

    I did not learn anything new in this video other than what an excellent tutor you are. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

  • @SergeyVikultsev
    @SergeyVikultsev2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!!! Finally this is complete explanation answering the FF vs APS-C question I was trying to answer for a while! Great job!

  • @PPISAFETY
    @PPISAFETY5 жыл бұрын

    I own Micro 4/3rd's, APS-C, and FF cameras. In more than 90% of the photos I take, there is no real difference to me. But when I want to go with a really wide-angle lens, or I want minimal depth of field, or really low light, I dig out the full frame gear. But that isn't as often as it once was. When I want the smallest kit for travel, or maximum telephoto "reach" without breaking the bank, Micro 4/3rd's gets the nod. The APS-C camera is used 100% for work shots and videos, and as a backup body for use with my Nikon FF lenses. Truthfully, these days, if I had to choose one system, only for what I really do now, it would probably be my Olympus Micro 4/3rd's gear, even knowing the limitations it may have.

  • @cfagil

    @cfagil

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have the same setup as you Tom. My conclusion is horses for courses. In general, my experience is FF for paid jobs with clients' presence. For pleasure, I will take my MFT gear. MFT with fast prime lenses also great for low light environment requiring deeper depth of field. A picture with great bokeh is not the only thing that result in high emotional impact.

  • @jameslane3846

    @jameslane3846

    5 жыл бұрын

    I shoot real full frame medium format - 6x7 :p cheaper than any 35mm, APS-C or M4/3 crap

  • @TechnoBabble

    @TechnoBabble

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@cfagil What? How is MFT good in low light when you require more DoF? Did you watch the video? You're not just getting more DoF, it's the same image as stopping down on full frame.

  • @thealexestrada

    @thealexestrada

    5 жыл бұрын

    My exact sentiments! I only use my FF for low light/DoF when shooting boudoir. Other than that, MFT for the win!

  • @Dollarshop

    @Dollarshop

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, each camera system has its advantages. If I'm traveling I would not want to lug around a FF system, but if I need bokeh and picture quality nothing beat the FF.

  • @cowboyyoga
    @cowboyyoga4 жыл бұрын

    Tony... this was just the perfect video for me. You are a great teacher... thank you for your support and efforts putting such information together! I am learning! )))

  • @brysimm404
    @brysimm4043 жыл бұрын

    Great info, Tony! Am surprised you didn't also point out that shooting with faster f/ stops makes the focal plane thinner, plus there can be noticeably different optical characteristics when a lens is more "open" [less contrast most notably]. Both of these things can significantly affect image quality and are a trade off to achieving background blur equivalent to Full Frame. Regardless of crop factor, the "focal plane characteristics" of a lens at any given f stop are still the same. This is visible in your example pics at 5:30 in the video; most notably the Micro 4/3 pic shot at f/2 - which shows the image characteristics of the lens actually being at f/2 while being used on a Micro 4/3 sensor with a crop factor that DOES impact things accordingly as you demonstrated.

  • @markpaterson2053
    @markpaterson20533 жыл бұрын

    You've explained what previously went over my head, and with candid elaboration; as a newbie, thanks a lot.

  • @phatcrayonz
    @phatcrayonz5 жыл бұрын

    youre my teacher. literally i own your books and studied phtotography and editing by you and chelsea. Love you both. Thank you so much.

  • @romanoopdenkelder6843
    @romanoopdenkelder68435 жыл бұрын

    This is what I like, simple...thank you Tony.

  • @zacharybohlman4069
    @zacharybohlman40693 жыл бұрын

    Free and incredible film school right here. Thanks Tony! 👏🏻

  • @fredericnilsson6769
    @fredericnilsson67692 жыл бұрын

    WON-DER-FUL ! This video answered ALL the questions I was wondering about the effect of the sensor size, the pixels density,... on the exposure. Lots of informations very well and simply explained that will help for sure !!! Thanks a lot for your work.

  • @jeancadet7968
    @jeancadet79684 жыл бұрын

    Tony this was very helpful man. One of the best videos ever made!! This was my 3rd time watching this. Excellent tutorial bro!! 👍🏾📷😎

  • @MA-ev6kd
    @MA-ev6kd4 жыл бұрын

    The best tutorial video I have ever watched! you just brought back my full desire to use my 80D and not upgrade to a Full-frame yet. Thanks!

  • @mbr5742

    @mbr5742

    3 жыл бұрын

    With Canon you can have your cake and eat it. Keep the 80D (I still love mine) and get a used 6D for portrait shots. If you are into portrait chances are you already own 35/2, 50/1.8 and 85/1.8 and those are full frame. Or you might have a 70-200/2.8 already. I went that way some years ago. Granted my "main zoom" alread was a Tamron 24-70VC and I actually had no primes. But f/2.8 on full frame == f/2 on APS-C and the modern zooms are at least as useable wide open as Canons entry level primes(Sigma Art primes or the new Tamron primes are another thing). The 1/3 f-stop isn't that big a difference and the stabiliser might make the difference (I do some industrial photography in lighted installations like Zollverein or LapaDu ( is it okaymto be on a first name base here? Was nevee introduced. Maybe LaPaSie? ) and it spares me from lugging a tripod

  • @paris9332
    @paris93323 жыл бұрын

    Cannot expect a better explanation than this. Thank you so much!

  • @GearJamminHank
    @GearJamminHank Жыл бұрын

    Tony, this is the best explanation I have EVER HEARD! I'm going to purchase all your books right now. Dang you make this easy.

  • @Bloggerky
    @Bloggerky5 жыл бұрын

    Clear and well-produced. I hope your dad is appropriately compensated for the use of his image on the bobblehead!

  • @ceofrimpong5302
    @ceofrimpong53025 жыл бұрын

    Honestly you understand camera more than any KZreadr I know. 👍👍👍👍

  • @BizSustain
    @BizSustain2 жыл бұрын

    This was a really great explainer video on what could be a confusing subject for new photographers! Worth watching all the way through. Thank you!!

  • @inetmiguel
    @inetmiguel3 жыл бұрын

    I am surprised how well explained in such a short time, thanks so much!

  • @MichaelKire
    @MichaelKire5 жыл бұрын

    This is probably the best video about this "issue"

  • @tomerweiss4900

    @tomerweiss4900

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's bad one cause it ain't reflecting one small factor. Size isn't the only tech factor in sensors. see mobile sensors - much smaller vs M43 and see what a huge step they made. 4D Sensors will come soon to MFT and It will be a different world for small sensors.

  • @janisfarhat9935
    @janisfarhat99355 жыл бұрын

    Best video on the subject! Awesome job!

  • @j.w.grayson6937
    @j.w.grayson69379 ай бұрын

    Excellent video! For a trip to Alaska my wife bought me a Sony Alpha A100 with the APS-C sensor. I was not given the opportunity to give input into her buying decision, instead she talked to the guy at the camera store. I was very please with the gift, but when I researched it and learned about sensor size I was surprised that she didn't get a full-frame sensor. The talk online in those days was almost shaming people who didn't have full-frame sensor cameras. Well, yesterday I ordered a new camera with a 1" sensor as I wanted a lighter P&S camera for a trip to South Africa. I am amazed at all the features in bridge cameras! I've got over a year to get use to it.

  • @maskednil
    @maskednil2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. Helps me understand the relationship between the different numbers even better. I also like how you do not be a snob about one frame over the other and instead show their strengths and weaknesses, thereby allowing us to grasp the different elements and fixes we have at our disposal for the situation or vision we are seeking to accomplish.

  • @SokTeJebo
    @SokTeJebo4 жыл бұрын

    This is amazing, trying to explain this stuff to my uncle but il just show him this video, cause your explanation is just top noch on point, good job SIR

  • @evertonporter7887
    @evertonporter78874 жыл бұрын

    I would only use full frame if I were making a living from photography. As I don't, I'm happy with my Nikon D7000, which is an APS-C.

  • @MrJueKa

    @MrJueKa

    3 жыл бұрын

    there are pros who use MFTs and they make a living from photography as well and they don't gnaw on the hunger cloth either or only deliver inferior quality 😉😉😉😉😉

  • @philjmj
    @philjmj2 жыл бұрын

    Much needed clarity on this topic. Extremely well presented technical explanation, while shedding light on marketing distortion. The importance of considering both sides of the equation, not commonly noted. Thanks! In regard to brief discussion of individual pixels, that would benefit from further exploration. Design differences/changes/improvements in sensors can affect the output significantly. And of course manufacturers can more easily fit more (and/or larger) pixels in a larger sensor. Great explanation! Thanks, again.

  • @berndkiltz
    @berndkiltz Жыл бұрын

    This is a most excellent video. I have been learning about that for years and NOBODY explained it that good. I got it now. THANK YOU!

  • @orion2250
    @orion22503 жыл бұрын

    Knowledge is treasure, thank you for being so free with yours!

  • @nicopotgieter4651
    @nicopotgieter46515 жыл бұрын

    Best explanation I've seen so far, thank you!

  • @Steffen9a
    @Steffen9a Жыл бұрын

    What a fantastic tutorial. Clear, simple, concise information and examples. Thanks.

  • @GeertDelmulle
    @GeertDelmulle3 жыл бұрын

    This is the Ultimate Compilation Edition of a small video series you made years ago on what was a controversial topic back in the day. This should be compulsory study material for every self-respecting photographer!!

  • @musicmaestro88
    @musicmaestro885 жыл бұрын

    It's not easy to keep my attention for 20 minutes. You rocked the house w/ this one! ;)

  • @vijeshc5633
    @vijeshc56335 жыл бұрын

    This session is really enlightening, thank you very much. I understand my camera much better in terms of full frame equivalents.

  • @ruthcusick9659
    @ruthcusick96593 жыл бұрын

    This is the best video I’ve seen on this subject! Such a well presented informative video! Thank you so much!!!

  • @alexrowland
    @alexrowland3 жыл бұрын

    I started out with an APS-C camera a few months ago, and I've been debating back and forth with going full-frame the past few weeks. After immersing myself into the field and learning everything I could about fstops, apertures, and crop factors, I was left not knowing what I should do and just feeling confused. This video FINALLY made everything click! I now know exactly what I want to do, and I feel totally confident about it. Thank you so much for uploading this!!

  • @k7GRz

    @k7GRz

    Жыл бұрын

    What are you gonna do?

  • @MaxP374

    @MaxP374

    Жыл бұрын

    Tell us!

  • @BHeru-wq5kv
    @BHeru-wq5kv4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for breaking this down in a way that is unbiased, factual, and explains the math. For myself it helped me know how to appreciate the gear that I have, and just make technical adjustments, versus feeling like I have to buy all new gear to achieve the look of FF.

  • @Vertabraker101
    @Vertabraker1014 жыл бұрын

    I forwarded this to my professor, with the heading, "What I wish I had known before buying my first camera" the class is Digital Video Production. Thanks! I saw this a bit late and landed on a T7i, but I'm still happy with my choice.

  • @poolgod80
    @poolgod80 Жыл бұрын

    This video revealed to me how much more I need to learn about cameras. Overwhelmed but excited to know more.

  • @shanewilliams613
    @shanewilliams6133 жыл бұрын

    Great video with clear explanations. One point unaddressed re crop sensors though is the fact they provide an instant boost in magnification for macro photography which is one advantage of not going full frame if this is your main interest when shooting. Basically the reverse of the calculations gives you the increased magnification ratio you will achieve.

  • @NEXUSREIGN48
    @NEXUSREIGN485 жыл бұрын

    this is a video that needs to be watched by many, as I'm often asked about whether I prefer mirrorless or full frame, as if the two are related at all-even by the "pros." this is very informative and by all means a well explained, through video. thanks guys!

  • @jeanchindeko5477

    @jeanchindeko5477

    5 жыл бұрын

    Alan Nexus do you know that mirrorless have nothing to do with sensor size? So I’ll assume that you wanted to say “... prefer crop or full frame...”. Quite some time now that Sony for instance is doing full frame mirrorless camera for professional

  • @woodnymph7393

    @woodnymph7393

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jeanchindeko5477 lol. You didn't understand what Alan Nexus is saying.. Yes mirrorless has nothing to do with sensor size but his friends or the people around him ask Alan if he prefers mirrorless or full frame which is funny....

  • @jeanchindeko5477

    @jeanchindeko5477

    5 жыл бұрын

    wood nymph that the problem! It’s like comparing Apple 🍏 and mango 🥭. People are using word without knowing what that mean, just because it’s sound nice, smart or just following the buzz word of the moment! But don’t worry I get it. My point was just to highlight this funny comparison

  • @sailfree1572
    @sailfree15724 жыл бұрын

    I had to view the video a few times to fully grasp the message. My friend calls me a dork for spending the money to switch from DX to FX because he claims that shooting with a 100mm on a DX is exactly the same as shooting with a 150mm on an FX body. Many amateur photographers like to believe they can get something for nothing by using smaller sensors and shorter lenses. I knew that was illogical but your video makes it clear why people who earn their living in stuff like nature and sports photography choose to lug around those huge full frame lenses. Thanks.

  • @kevin-haggerty-khmp
    @kevin-haggerty-khmp Жыл бұрын

    By far the greatest help in a video I have even seen for my photography!

  • @StevieDrama
    @StevieDrama Жыл бұрын

    I just learned more in 10 minutes than I have in the last 12 months. Subscribed!

  • @peterjamesZX9R
    @peterjamesZX9R4 жыл бұрын

    Great KZread , documentary , I would recommend everyone to watch this, who are not sure about full frame Vs Lenses and smaller frame Cameras, Great review done professionally & informally pleasant, and well put together.

  • @andrescarrasco1248
    @andrescarrasco12485 жыл бұрын

    By the way this is my new favorite photography channel

  • @haszoka
    @haszoka3 жыл бұрын

    Came here to answer the question. YES. I need a Full Frame camera. Amazingly informative by the way. Thank you.

  • @pilot_obet7815
    @pilot_obet78152 жыл бұрын

    The best lesson (if you can call it that) concerning APS-C and Full Frame comparison. I have no problem with the maths. Excellent presentation! Thank you.

  • @jasonattal4465
    @jasonattal44655 жыл бұрын

    I don’t need full frame for my use. I sold my 6D last year to buy a M5. I don’t forget the math you also explain in your old video. APS-C works great for me, light and compact ! Perfect for traveling. Have a good day. From France !

  • @dangernba

    @dangernba

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to use "full frame" format, but the price, size and weigth make it a bad travel companion. Specially when travelling hand luggage only. I'll keep my RX10. Greetings from Brazil.

  • @ToxicGopher

    @ToxicGopher

    5 жыл бұрын

    I like the look of the m5, especially with the that 32mm F1.4

  • @montyHD1

    @montyHD1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ToxicGopher I dropped my D800e and D500 for to invest further into Olympus. I have 2 kids and love to go birding. I can tell you that neither suffered. I feel that I have become more into photography as of late. My D500 and 200-500mm just sat there on my desk for months until the change. It is so easy to throw my 100-400mm combo into the car every day and take it out when and if I need/want to.

  • @jasonattal4465

    @jasonattal4465

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@dangernba You are right, better to take the most of your RX10 and to do your best to get the picture you want :)

  • @jasonattal4465

    @jasonattal4465

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ToxicGopher When it will be in second hand shop, I will replace my EF40 for this EF-M32 for sure. Currently my set up is 18-150 + 22 + 28 macro + 40 (for portrait). But I'll need a 11-22 and a Laowa 9 f2.8 to complete my gear.

  • @yusriabbas8430
    @yusriabbas84305 жыл бұрын

    Dear Tony, First of all, thank you for the valuable knowledge that you constantly spread across KZread for all of the photographers in the world. I have always found your videos so valuable thanks to the simplicity in which you explain different things and the examples you use while doing so. The latest camera I bought was the Canon 5D Mark 4 full frame DSLR with the 24-70mm f/4 kit lens, in order to be confident that I don't need to worry about the conversions and formulas you explained, as I am not good at all in mathematics, and want the best image and video quality I can afford. Also, as you mentioned, the 35mm film equivalent full frame sensor is the industry's standard used by all pro photographers except for those who shoot medium format photographs for printing a wall sized posters to stick them onto a building, those who use the likes of the Hasselblad for this purpose. I have chosen the full frame sensor over the APSC cropped sensor or the micro four thirds, simply because it gathers more light and the photo sites where the individual pixels sit are larger in the full frame sensor, resulting in a better low light performance. Moreover, as you explained when comparing different sized lenses, if you take three lenses with the same aperture and focal length but differ from each other in sensor size compatibility (one full frame, one APSC, and one micro four thirds), you'll get better results from the full frame lens although they all have the same aperture (much deeper bokeh effect and larger coverage of the scene), which means you'll need to buy better performing lenses for your smaller sized sensors if you want to get "similar" results to those of the full frame lens, and not to mention that you'll have to raise the ISO in those smaller sensor cameras to maintain the brightness, which results in higher noise levels. And finally, there are bokeh levels that you cannot simply achieve with smaller sensor lenses compared to the wide aperture full frame lenses, as the crop factor formula will give you results of apertures that don't exist in lenses such as f/0.X for maintaining the same level of background blur you achieved with your full frame lens and body.

  • @chosenideahandle

    @chosenideahandle

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why everything he just said? 👀

  • @flixbp
    @flixbp Жыл бұрын

    It is sooo rare that a video actually teaches me something this essential that I wouldn't have known to look for

  • @haroldsbeaver206
    @haroldsbeaver2062 жыл бұрын

    This video has been a big help deciding between a APS-C and full frame.